Guys, you are both smart and wise! Thanks for the info and perspective. I listened to Barnes and came away with the idea that he is down to earth, working for his program, and while optimistic, is not overly so.
The 3 year bridge sounds about right to what I've heard. With the strong likelihood that the House NIL goes to court, we may not have a decision on that until 2026. And I don't think any power conference is going to make a move until that lawsuit is settled.
Jon Wilner broke down the "war chest" a few months ago: Conference distributions withheld from outgoing teams: $65 million CFP payments (contract runs through 2025 season): $6 million per team per season ($24 million) Rose Bowl revenue for two years: $100 million NCAA mbb payouts: $33 million through 2025. About $30 million more if Pac-12 stays together after summer of 2026. As far as I know, they have set aside the $65 million and will spend a big portion of the rest on the athletic budgets. So the money does exist but not in one big lump sum.
I don’t see a path forward period. What conference wants to share and why? I don’t wish this but there has been no future proposed that makes anybody happy……
@@andrewgomes5674 The CW said they would probably be interested in our 2025 schedule. However, the scheduling alliances are all nothing more that rumor right now.
@@rumblingcds Yes I did, & listen to him on Pucket's broadcast. Waiting for the contracts to be signed & then put them out to bid on. It will be a mix & match schedule, not any kind of alliance.
Per John Canzano, Oregon State has backed out of the game against Portland State and BYU has picked it up. Counting the game against Washington State, they now have 6 open slots on their schedule. Could they be backing into the scheduling agreement with the MWC?
Pacific Division is still the best choice for OSU/WSU because they can appeal to west coast athletes to spend their time playing and practicing instead of flying across country. If the ACC explodes CAL and Stanford may be able to get out of the stupid deal they made and return to the Pacific Division along with some of the top MW teams. There are many options. I think the ACC would be the worst. The Beavs need a great season this year!
Kinda scary place to be in for those schools. If a P4 invite doesn’t come the MW and AAC don’t really seem all that interested anymore. They have nothing to offer top G5s in a rebuilt PAC. Greed really screwed these guys
I like the fact that you address the PAC 12 along with your Mt. West. Know how to make it better- ditch Steve. I watch it till he opens his mouth then bye bye.
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Gotta give it to you, you guys have been on point on the warchest narrative throughout! Nicely done
Thx. Appreciate the head nod!
Guys, you are both smart and wise! Thanks for the info and perspective. I listened to Barnes and came away with the idea that he is down to earth, working for his program, and while optimistic, is not overly so.
Spot on, its not about rebuilding the PAC, (until it is), if no invite comes. Just joining the MW is last on their wish list.
The 3 year bridge sounds about right to what I've heard. With the strong likelihood that the House NIL goes to court, we may not have a decision on that until 2026. And I don't think any power conference is going to make a move until that lawsuit is settled.
I agree with you about the House issue. If this ends up in court, nothing happens until 2026 or longer.
Great point. Thx!
Jon Wilner broke down the "war chest" a few months ago:
Conference distributions withheld from outgoing teams: $65 million
CFP payments (contract runs through 2025 season): $6 million per team per season ($24 million)
Rose Bowl revenue for two years: $100 million
NCAA mbb payouts: $33 million through 2025. About $30 million more if Pac-12 stays together after summer of 2026.
As far as I know, they have set aside the $65 million and will spend a big portion of the rest on the athletic budgets. So the money does exist but not in one big lump sum.
I don’t see a path forward period. What conference wants to share and why? I don’t wish this but there has been no future proposed that makes anybody happy……
Guys, live the content, great place for actual MW news, but please . . . . turn up your mics.
Nice summary! As long as the House case isn’t settled nothing else will be.
Thx. And good point on the House issue.
I really wish OSU and WSU could have joined the MW. But money isn’t allowing it. ☹️
Good show. The rumors of the Cw brokering deals & scheduling alliances are coming from OSU & WSU fan bases speculating and dreaming.
sure. keep thinking that. think outside the box. we gonna reveal plans and risk losing 200 million dollars? no.
@@andrewgomes5674 The CW said they would probably be interested in our 2025 schedule. However, the scheduling alliances are all nothing more that rumor right now.
Did you go read canzanos column today? Sounds like our schedule is pretty much done.
@@rumblingcds Yes I did, & listen to him on Pucket's broadcast. Waiting for the contracts to be signed & then put them out to bid on. It will be a mix & match schedule, not any kind of alliance.
Thx jeh.
The speculation is rampant, as usual.
Very intriguing.
I could see SC adding the beavs at home, but they’ll never travel to Corvallis ever again
Very true.
They have 4 of 6 homes already booked. Use G5s for the 2 remaining home games and travel to whatever Power school will host.
Don't they have to be up to 8 teams after 2 years?
Yes they do
If and only if they wanna keep the pac 12 brand.
They can get a waiver approved for one more year since this such a unique and unparalleled situatiin
Some people have mentioned a reverse merger with the WCC instead of the MW since none of them are football.
The bridge is being built on only one side of a deep canyon.
Notre Dame kicked around in the news today. Which would be huge for either team.
Per John Canzano, Oregon State has backed out of the game against Portland State and BYU has picked it up. Counting the game against Washington State, they now have 6 open slots on their schedule. Could they be backing into the scheduling agreement with the MWC?
Beavers and Cougars will need G5 schools who are willing to travel and get paid to play.
Pacific Division is still the best choice for OSU/WSU because they can appeal to west coast athletes to spend their time playing and practicing instead of flying across country. If the ACC explodes CAL and Stanford may be able to get out of the stupid deal they made and return to the Pacific Division along with some of the top MW teams. There are many options. I think the ACC would be the worst. The Beavs need a great season this year!
Just playing a semantics game, I believe there is a "revenue stream" if they keep the Pac alive?
Why the Beavers and Cougars just join the Mountain West?
Cuz it'd kill their access to their funds and be a death nail to their athletic departments.
Because their stated goal is staying power 5.
Great info, but there is no "P5". Maybe the PAC can start it's own playoff while they're at it.
With ND losing to a G5 team at home, combined with how OSU and WSU have been playing it’s entirely possible one of them may make the CFP this year.
How did the beard grow back in like 2 episodes?
Miracle grow!
@@TheBigMountainPodcast could it be a fake beard lol
lmao
Kinda scary place to be in for those schools. If a P4 invite doesn’t come the MW and AAC don’t really seem all that interested anymore. They have nothing to offer top G5s in a rebuilt PAC. Greed really screwed these guys
I’m thinking more teams will soon be in the same place as time goes on. This is really untenable for some of these smaller schools.
I like the fact that you address the PAC 12 along with your Mt. West. Know how to make it better- ditch Steve. I watch it till he opens his mouth then bye bye.
Steve is a good guy & does bring some levity to JY from time to time.
LOL. This is awesome. We all need to stay humble. - Steve
PAC 2.....it's time to sh!t or get off the pot. Times ticking away