It's insane how much has changed in just the month since this video came out. Utah, Arizona, and Arizona state all moved to the Big 12, Oregon and Washington moved to the Big Ten, and in just the last few days Stanford and Cal were added to the ACC, as well as SMU.
EDIT #2 - now the conference is fully dead, with Washington and Oregon headed to the B1G. This sucks for just about everyone involved that isn't a suit. I'm really sorry to everyone involved, especially the cities of Pullman and Corvallis. Come on, Colorado. I JUST made this video. Can't you guys have let it matriculate for just a few weeks? Sigh. Anyways-welcome back, Buffaloes. We left the light on for you.
@@captainspartan04 out of the corners, my guess is Arizona, since there's a lot of smoke there, but their AD or president (can't remember which) has said some things recently that make me think they're trying to stay. Utah and ASU have been as close to adamant about staying as you can be, but money talks, and the PAC now has less. I know there's a lot of smoke on Oregon or Washington, but I'll maintain the same stance I have since USCLA-I'll believe a move happens when the schools themselves announce it. At the end of the day, I hate that this is all happening.
@@lukeontheplains I hate it too. Louisville fan, so I had to deal with the fall of the big east. It ruins all the rivalry and there is no regionalism anymore. I do agree Arizona could be next. Just wanted to know your thoughts or if it could be the wildcard you mentioned with UConn
UConn is an interesting one IMO. Yormark has made it clear he puts a high value on basketball, and UConn certainly is the most attractive option on that front. But I also think that there are suddenly 3 or 4 or maybe more options that are realistically obtainable now that weren't 48 hours ago that might also bring more to the table than UConn does. We'll see.
The more I learn about the history of these conferences, the more I realize that instability and bickering has been the rule, not the exception, for most of their history.
This aged well. It’s so sad to watch how the PAC fell apart. Greed and pride ruined what was once an amazing conference with regionality and a true identity. Now it feels like we’re slipping into the NFL. I’m not sure if I can watch college football after this season. It’s gonna be too weird
Oh man I’m a KState grad too and have been watching this play out in sadness. Seeing OSU and WSU be in the exact position we were really really close to being in twice is heartbreaking. Nobody actually wants this
PAC after dark man so many times I'd get done watching LSU around 10pm and I'd flip over and see some good game between like Arizona State and Oregon state. And I'd be like shoot this is a good game let me crack another beer and watch this and next thing you know I'm nodding off. I don't think I ever made it to the end of a PAC after dark game it's like making it to the end of an old SNL episode that music telling you get yo azz to sleep you got church in the morning
I very much enjoyed this! Thanks for the content. Best of luck to Oregon State and Washington State going forward. I hope you both find your way back into the power five status somehow. My Oklahoma State Cowboys were inches away from your same boat. Go Pokes!
I think if the PAC-12 wants to survive conference realignment in the future, they need to ditch the night cap games. Nobody in the Midwest or the east coast wants to stay up until 2 am to watch a football game.
They would have crushed the hurricanes too had they played. Most dominant defense in college football history. With the most dominant football player of all time, Steve emtman.
Regarding the B12-P12 merger, I think one of the reasons of declining was because the PAC wanted the B12 to kick out the 4 new additions and West vrigina before merging. B12 refused to do that and, therefore, no dice. But that may be just a rumor.
I mean, that makes sense why the B12 would turn them down. They hold the cards, so why should they be giving up assets? West Coast elitism at its finest.
As a South Carolina fan I consider myself lucky that our athletic department hitched a ride to the SEC train in the 90s. Long ago enough that we aren’t outcasts like Mizzou and to get situated before this major realignment era. As an outsider to the other conferences dealing with losing their premier football powerhouses, I’m not a fan of this treatment of the conference structure. Going the way of the NFL with only two leagues seems stupid. But monetarily, this makes the most sense. I’m glad we already got on the boat decades ago but this is just not fun to watch.
Here’s my humble take with all this conference realignment ridiculousness. It’s gotten so out of hand to the point it doesn’t make sense anymore. Because football is the driving force behind this mess, college football needs to become its own semi-pro league and let the other sports reset and rejoin their original conferences. Players now get paid, colleges get their TV money, and can still use their brands and resources. It’s beyond ridiculous to drag other sports into conferences to play teams all over the country that don’t have the same amount of revenue and resources. Give football its own league to divide up however they see fit, and let the other sports continue to compete within their traditional more regional based conferences.
This is the precise direction that things are heading in. Give it 2 TV contract cycles, and we'll be back to regional conferences. We'll probably have an over-arching football-only governing body with a figurehead who can actually wield power and make decisions. That governing body will count the B1G and SEC schools as members, along with the bigger names from the rest of what was the Power 5. Several have begun to speak of a system of elevation/relegation, which could also be quite interesting. Meanwhile, enjoy the last season of CFB as we know it.
"oh the band is out on the field!" - probably the most iconic play in college football history. That play kept John Elway from appearing in a bowl game at the end of his senior season. Elway didn't play in a bowl game during his time at Stanford. He was a great QB, obviously, but back then they didn't have nearly as many bowl games as they do now and his teams were always around the middle of the pack and they never got the invite for a bowl game.
Now I am a fan of a big time school who doesn't have to worry about how this will affect me personally (Michigan in case you're wondering), but I feel for you guys out in the Pac-12 and Big XII regions. You guys are being hung by the balls for TV moves that the majority of us fans of the big schools don't want. I can't speak for everyone, but I'm pretty sure most B1G and SEC schools would rather see conferences not get split up and destroyed by greedy TV executives. I personally believed that the system was already too imbalanced and unfair, hopefully we don't see everything get ruined.
As a Michigan fan who just moved to SoCal, I like the addition for purely selfish reasons. I'm still in "B1G country" now and I get to go see UM play out here. However if I stayed in the Midwest I realize I would probably hate all this conference realignment.
Great video. However I think the Big XII is more likely to survive than the PAC. The Big XII has been through a lot, but has done so without dying. The PAC loses two schools and all of a sudden can’t get a media deal.
As a Big 12 fan (AKA: Truck Stop league) & TCU Alumni I don't want the PAC 12 to Fail. I want them to Land some type of TV Deal. SEC & B1G are so far ahead of The other 2 & the ACC is $h!+ show all it's own I feel like the PAC screwed up majorly when they didn't Decide to work with The Big 12
That is actually crazy that Whittier college was apart of the original schools lol I live down the street from the school pretty small private school that recently even got rid of their football program a few years ago
Pac-12 also tried selling its media rights overseas and traveling to China to play basketball games every year. Scott tried selling the rights to media holders in APAC and China but ultimately couldn't find a buyer. After 5 years of this experiment, the most memorable part was LiAngelo Ball stealing LV shades and belts in Hangzhou, China.
Ucla was the southern branch of the University of California. Therefore their fight songs, mascots, even some street names (such as Gayley) were the same. They switched to Bruins and powder blue and gold, instead of Golden Bears and blue and gold, once they were established as their own university, and competing in sports.
I think the chance to play for a national football title every year with the new playoff format should keep Oregon and Washington where they are, but what do I know
I hate that USC and UCLA are joining the Big 10, same with possibly Oregon and Washington. The Big 10 is a midwestern conference and what happens to the Rose Bowl a predominantly Big 10 vs Pac 12 bowl game when there is no Pac 12 to play.
I can confirm someone with access to time travel that the Pac 10 will be restored to its 80s/90s self thanks to Congress breaking up and outlawing super conferences, turning college football back into a regional game. Everyone will be told literally to "go back where you came from." Cries of lost revenue will fall on deaf ears and so will university presidents and TV execs echoing the last words of Waternoose to Sulley in Monsters, Inc of "You've destroyed this sport! College football is dead! Where will we get TV revenue from now?!" But the Make College Football Great Again movement will succeed and it'll be like a game of Jumanji ended and everything will go back to the way it was. There will be no more national championship games, either. Back to polls and bowls.
It's insane how much has changed in just the month since this video came out. Utah, Arizona, and Arizona state all moved to the Big 12, Oregon and Washington moved to the Big Ten, and in just the last few days Stanford and Cal were added to the ACC, as well as SMU.
EDIT #2 - now the conference is fully dead, with Washington and Oregon headed to the B1G. This sucks for just about everyone involved that isn't a suit. I'm really sorry to everyone involved, especially the cities of Pullman and Corvallis.
Come on, Colorado. I JUST made this video. Can't you guys have let it matriculate for just a few weeks? Sigh.
Anyways-welcome back, Buffaloes. We left the light on for you.
Which corner school do you think joins them first?
@@captainspartan04 out of the corners, my guess is Arizona, since there's a lot of smoke there, but their AD or president (can't remember which) has said some things recently that make me think they're trying to stay. Utah and ASU have been as close to adamant about staying as you can be, but money talks, and the PAC now has less.
I know there's a lot of smoke on Oregon or Washington, but I'll maintain the same stance I have since USCLA-I'll believe a move happens when the schools themselves announce it. At the end of the day, I hate that this is all happening.
@@lukeontheplains I hate it too. Louisville fan, so I had to deal with the fall of the big east. It ruins all the rivalry and there is no regionalism anymore. I do agree Arizona could be next. Just wanted to know your thoughts or if it could be the wildcard you mentioned with UConn
UConn is an interesting one IMO. Yormark has made it clear he puts a high value on basketball, and UConn certainly is the most attractive option on that front.
But I also think that there are suddenly 3 or 4 or maybe more options that are realistically obtainable now that weren't 48 hours ago that might also bring more to the table than UConn does.
We'll see.
Shocking, and I guess uconn's next to join the big 12.
The more I learn about the history of these conferences, the more I realize that instability and bickering has been the rule, not the exception, for most of their history.
Agreed, I always thought conferences were stable for 30-40 years... but watching these videos has taught me... this is nothing new
That SWC conference video going to hit like crack.
Do you smoke crack regularly?
Ikr
Did it?
For the most part, yes. @@bosserman444
Watching this video after the PAC-12 became the PAC-5 is awesome. Thanks for these videos.
Pac-4 now
Sad truth. ACC just sent an invite to Cal, Stanford, and SMU. Pac 2 now.
@@jaredstivers 2PAC
More like PAC dead.
Makaveli
Love this. I have been begging for ESPN to do docs for the history of each conference. Ya know before they all disappear. Great work
I love that you decided to make this a series
Man you have to do this for every conference, love the content, keep it up my guy👍
This aged well. It’s so sad to watch how the PAC fell apart. Greed and pride ruined what was once an amazing conference with regionality and a true identity. Now it feels like we’re slipping into the NFL. I’m not sure if I can watch college football after this season. It’s gonna be too weird
We're literally in the Twilight Zone of American college sports at this point, where anything can get weird
Oh man I’m a KState grad too and have been watching this play out in sadness. Seeing OSU and WSU be in the exact position we were really really close to being in twice is heartbreaking. Nobody actually wants this
R.I.P. Pac-12
The damage Larry Scott did to the Pac 12 could never be overstated.
A video on the old WAC would be cool too. I think the first real super conference back in the late 90s.
So glad you made another video on a different power 5 conference, these vids are great, cant wait for ACC and SEC
Lol at the Canadian National Railways logo in the bunch of possible diffusers at 16:15
This video is great! I didn’t even realize you were a new channel and I’ve been waiting for more conference videos since your last one. Keep it up
RIP Coach Pirate. We all loved you.
These conference history videos are awesome. Great job!
PAC after dark man so many times I'd get done watching LSU around 10pm and I'd flip over and see some good game between like Arizona State and Oregon state. And I'd be like shoot this is a good game let me crack another beer and watch this and next thing you know I'm nodding off. I don't think I ever made it to the end of a PAC after dark game it's like making it to the end of an old SNL episode that music telling you get yo azz to sleep you got church in the morning
13:37 Oregon was a 2 seed, not 4.
Ikr Ohio State was the 4 seed and beat Oregon
incredibly sad. Rich history, historic schools and rivalries. Long live the PAC
had to subscribe. I know you are mainly covering FBS conferences but i cant wait for you to make a doc on the big east
Great video man. Can’t wait for the SEC video!
I very much enjoyed this! Thanks for the content. Best of luck to Oregon State and Washington State going forward. I hope you both find your way back into the power five status somehow. My Oklahoma State Cowboys were inches away from your same boat. Go Pokes!
A follow up to this video today would be gold. The 4 pillar brands are in the B1G and the 4 schools left behind
2 now
I know this was used to describe the Big East, but the PAC12 is truly college sport`s Ozymandias
I think if the PAC-12 wants to survive conference realignment in the future, they need to ditch the night cap games. Nobody in the Midwest or the east coast wants to stay up until 2 am to watch a football game.
I appreciate all the hard work and research this took to get right. Great job you got a new subscriber!
How do you have less than 1000 subscribers. This video is very high quality
UW's 1991 national championship is still considered legitimate. Not sure why it was mentioned it's disputed.
They would have crushed the hurricanes too had they played. Most dominant defense in college football history. With the most dominant football player of all time, Steve emtman.
Steve Emtman would be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame if it wasn’t for astroturf.
Regarding the B12-P12 merger, I think one of the reasons of declining was because the PAC wanted the B12 to kick out the 4 new additions and West vrigina before merging. B12 refused to do that and, therefore, no dice. But that may be just a rumor.
I mean, that makes sense why the B12 would turn them down. They hold the cards, so why should they be giving up assets? West Coast elitism at its finest.
Lucas you are a master in this craft my friend
As a South Carolina fan I consider myself lucky that our athletic department hitched a ride to the SEC train in the 90s. Long ago enough that we aren’t outcasts like Mizzou and to get situated before this major realignment era.
As an outsider to the other conferences dealing with losing their premier football powerhouses, I’m not a fan of this treatment of the conference structure. Going the way of the NFL with only two leagues seems stupid. But monetarily, this makes the most sense. I’m glad we already got on the boat decades ago but this is just not fun to watch.
Well to be frank, you’re actually in the South East unlike Mizzou. Schools like Clemson probably wouldn’t be outcasts if they joined today
Is South Carolina going to try to block Clemson from joining the SEC?
@@ericthomas917 let me go ask our athletic director.
Keep making videos please!!! These are great.
Can we get ACC next?
Here’s my humble take with all this conference realignment ridiculousness. It’s gotten so out of hand to the point it doesn’t make sense anymore. Because football is the driving force behind this mess, college football needs to become its own semi-pro league and let the other sports reset and rejoin their original conferences. Players now get paid, colleges get their TV money, and can still use their brands and resources. It’s beyond ridiculous to drag other sports into conferences to play teams all over the country that don’t have the same amount of revenue and resources. Give football its own league to divide up however they see fit, and let the other sports continue to compete within their traditional more regional based conferences.
This is the precise direction that things are heading in. Give it 2 TV contract cycles, and we'll be back to regional conferences. We'll probably have an over-arching football-only governing body with a figurehead who can actually wield power and make decisions. That governing body will count the B1G and SEC schools as members, along with the bigger names from the rest of what was the Power 5. Several have begun to speak of a system of elevation/relegation, which could also be quite interesting. Meanwhile, enjoy the last season of CFB as we know it.
"oh the band is out on the field!" - probably the most iconic play in college football history. That play kept John Elway from appearing in a bowl game at the end of his senior season. Elway didn't play in a bowl game during his time at Stanford. He was a great QB, obviously, but back then they didn't have nearly as many bowl games as they do now and his teams were always around the middle of the pack and they never got the invite for a bowl game.
This deserves so many more views.
It’s sucks to see these conferences go away
Now I am a fan of a big time school who doesn't have to worry about how this will affect me personally (Michigan in case you're wondering), but I feel for you guys out in the Pac-12 and Big XII regions. You guys are being hung by the balls for TV moves that the majority of us fans of the big schools don't want. I can't speak for everyone, but I'm pretty sure most B1G and SEC schools would rather see conferences not get split up and destroyed by greedy TV executives. I personally believed that the system was already too imbalanced and unfair, hopefully we don't see everything get ruined.
as an ohio state fan im glad we don’t have to worry about conference realignment but USC and UCLA? that feels wrong
As a Michigan fan who just moved to SoCal, I like the addition for purely selfish reasons. I'm still in "B1G country" now and I get to go see UM play out here. However if I stayed in the Midwest I realize I would probably hate all this conference realignment.
It all goes back to Texas and their selfish LHN - One could make a great case how they are the modern conference wrecker.
This series is fire bro
Can we get a big ten video down the line please? That would be awesome
Great video. However I think the Big XII is more likely to survive than the PAC. The Big XII has been through a lot, but has done so without dying. The PAC loses two schools and all of a sudden can’t get a media deal.
Look who was right
I didn't know most of that, nice summary.
Also great production value!
Great video, and think you should do the big ten next.
Another great video! Good job covering the, almost, move of the big12 south to the PAC.
Loving all these videos despite the mispronunciations here and there. Pepperdeen? Keep up the good work.
Your video was accurate at the time you made it, but things are changing fast. The future of the P12 looks far more uncertain as I type.
This man needs subs
Another excellent video by you, Lucas. Keep up the good work! 👍👍
18:05 that take aged like fine milk
great video! can't wait to see your take on the ACC
As a Big 12 fan (AKA: Truck Stop league) & TCU Alumni I don't want the PAC 12 to Fail. I want them to Land some type of TV Deal. SEC & B1G are so far ahead of The other 2 & the ACC is $h!+ show all it's own I feel like the PAC screwed up majorly when they didn't Decide to work with The Big 12
Looking like they’re won’t be a PAC 12 anymore bc as of rn there are only 4 teams left
please make a SWC history vid
Two great videos. Keep it up
That is actually crazy that Whittier college was apart of the original schools lol I live down the street from the school pretty small private school that recently even got rid of their football program a few years ago
Great video hope you do big ten next
Pac-12 also tried selling its media rights overseas and traveling to China to play basketball games every year. Scott tried selling the rights to media holders in APAC and China but ultimately couldn't find a buyer. After 5 years of this experiment, the most memorable part was LiAngelo Ball stealing LV shades and belts in Hangzhou, China.
Awesome stuff! Love these conference videos
Ucla was the southern branch of the University of California. Therefore their fight songs, mascots, even some street names (such as Gayley) were the same. They switched to Bruins and powder blue and gold, instead of Golden Bears and blue and gold, once they were established as their own university, and competing in sports.
Good work. Would love follow ups on these quality videos
I think the chance to play for a national football title every year with the new playoff format should keep Oregon and Washington where they are, but what do I know
I was today years old when I learned that I was so interested in the history of athletic conferences.
You will need to make a part 2 😂
rip mike leach. ttu goat coach
Awesome I loved your big 12 video and I'm sure this one rocks too
Well an additional video on the death of the Pac might be a good idea now that Colorado left a week after this was made.
It was a nice ride pac 8/10/12. Will the last team to leave turn the lights out
Damn dude, the timing on this.
Cant wait for the WAC video
Keep these up their great
Please please please strongly consider doing the ACC.
1:28 weaken. . . Yeah, about that
I guess you could say dismantling is also weakening
I hate that USC and UCLA are joining the Big 10, same with possibly Oregon and Washington. The Big 10 is a midwestern conference and what happens to the Rose Bowl a predominantly Big 10 vs Pac 12 bowl game when there is no Pac 12 to play.
I mean with the 12 team playoff coming, it's gonna lose its automatic bids lol there's a chance we can see Georgia vs Clemson in the rose bowl
Let’s call it the Lincoln Riley realignment. It’s ironic that Riley leaves Oklahoma and then USC heads to the B1G and then everyone jumps around.
I actually watched PAC 12 after dark most weeks. Made me really like the teams and the conference.
pac 12 had 100 more national championships than any other conference .
I remember listening to a sports call in show years ago, and a caller said TV would ruin sports, and I’ll be damned if that’s not the case.
Well this has aged well…4 members left
This aged spectacularly. Like a fine milk.
Waiting on the ACC video which feels like it could be so complex that it could take months
Whats the vaporwave song in the intro?!
THIS IS WHAT WE’VE BEEN WAITING FOR!!!
11:20 Talk about a seminal moment.
Solid Videos
ESPN told the PAC-12 leadership to merge with the Big-12 and it was the PAC-12 who said no!
The first time. It actually happened twice-one right after OUT and once right after USCLA.
Keep ‘em comin
No one talks about this but SEC wanted OU and Texas, not aTm and Mizzou in 2010.
And Colorado just left for the big 12
Only two weeks after this upload, the Pac 12 is officially dead. Amazing how fast it collapsed.
Might need to make a video about what is happening to the pac12
This was beautiful
Watching this on the day Colorado bolted for the big 12
Title should be THE PAC 12 IS HISTORY!
Two weeks to early. Let's find out the fates if the 4 remaining PAC schools before the update
You should do a bigten video
I can confirm someone with access to time travel that the Pac 10 will be restored to its 80s/90s self thanks to Congress breaking up and outlawing super conferences, turning college football back into a regional game. Everyone will be told literally to "go back where you came from." Cries of lost revenue will fall on deaf ears and so will university presidents and TV execs echoing the last words of Waternoose to Sulley in Monsters, Inc of "You've destroyed this sport! College football is dead! Where will we get TV revenue from now?!" But the Make College Football Great Again movement will succeed and it'll be like a game of Jumanji ended and everything will go back to the way it was. There will be no more national championship games, either. Back to polls and bowls.
Editor’s note: they did not survive
can you update this
Redo an update please!!! B12 baby!!!