If you are white or Asian and not LBTQ they pretty much hate you, this is just old fashioned racism, just in a direction that is different from what it used to be in America. If they treated everyone equally, it wouldn't have been a problem but imagine if Trash was a white person acting this way in the game, would everyone have treated the NPC the same way then? Just because you are different in some way then the average person does not mean you should be treated like some kind of princess.According to Smash JT, his sources from Bioware basically say something similar is going on at Bioware, with these kinds of sensitivity meetings.
DEI simply means remove straight low melanin men and add high melanin people, LGBTQ people and women. Nothing to do with accepting everyone. Notice nobody EVER asks for DEI when its majority female, LGBTQ or high melanin people. I say this specifically because in all of DEIs history "we want more diversity" never means ok add an East Asian man.
Turns out someone whose only real life dialogue options are "Try to force your opinion on him" or "Call him a buzzword insult" doesn't do a great job writing dialogue.
@@troy2223 I feel like Concord and Dustborn were actually the game industry's attempts at seeing how 'modern audiences' react if they actually DO just go all out. New IPs, new characters, new everything that has no 'toxic fanbases' that care about stupid nerdy stuff like 'lore continuity' and 'characters looking and acting like they have for three games already'. Best of all, one of them was more of a smaller, indie type game, and the other was a massive billion dollar attempt at a new MCU of gaming by a AAA studio. Both failed. That has to have the publishers panicking, and is definitely the real reason why Ubisoft the publisher delayed AC Shadows (Star Wars Outlaws was too far along and they had contracts with Disney). They're doing one of two things; either hoping to 'wait out' this current industry wide sentiment of the playerbase that hates what they're doing, OR, they are actually trying to fix things. I'm not getting my hopes up that any of these companies are picking option A, to be honest, considering after all these other flops they still put out Veilguard, and that Survivor 9 or whatever game, which flopped just as hard.
They are just not smart enough to figure out that they act like socialists and not democrats at all. And their hardcore people act like communists and live life like that. So we only have extreme leftist and radical leftist claiming to be democrats. Ofc everything conservative sounds radical right wing to them.
Lol yep and they being one person but using the word they to describe themself/selves -_- is equal to me saying "call me a they, but by they I mean demons living inside me and steering me wrong!" Type ahhh shiiih
I just want a dark fantasy that doesn't have gendered bullshit injected into it. I don't mind BG3 styled playersexual NPCs if you must have romance as a feature, but I play games to get away from this kind of shit, not dive right into it. Honestly, I wouldn't even care if it was there if it was interesting and makes sense in lore, but most of the time it isn't and doesn't.
This makes me so fucking happy for one reason. The absolute copium in the steam reviews. Most of the positive reviews say something along the line that the story sucked but the gameplay is fun. It's a fucking RPG, giving it a positive review when the story sucks is fucking insane.
Yeah, this game getting positives reviews in steam that amount to "writing is cringe, the rest is mid, thumbs up" helped me realize just how low some peoples standards are.
The fact that Jason _"own the chuds"_ Schreier deleted the post where he claimed that the game was doing extremely well is just icing on Dragon Age the Deiguard cake 😅
🤣🤣 I didn't know that, amazing! I'm glad he got a couple days and a tweet to feel good about himself before he had to see Trump get the trifecta and this game flop
Remember, they took healing magic out of Inquisition for 'reasons.' Maybe it was to have those scars, and the scars they added to Varric make sense. Or maybe it was because if the player tried to play a healer in DAV, it would not be action-y enough to distract players from the companions' ineffectiveness.
@@txorimorea3869 but truly you can forgive the bad character design and even the gameplay as its not awful. Its just not deep. But with a deep story and choices that matter. Challenging players all along the way with adult themes. It could have been all that game needed to make it a huge hit. I truly think its just the writing that killed it.
There's a lesbian companion in KOTOR you can do this with, but I always kept her because she was actually interesting and you wouldn't even know she's a lesbian unless you play a female protagonist and try to romance her.
Technically, banning for crossparticipation is against Reddit's TOS and grounds for closure of a sub. But good luck getting that enforced evenly on that hive.
Is everyone that has power within reddit trans? I was abruptly banned for life from all of reddit -- I can't even remember what sub, but I wrote a detailed response to someone in which I described how the peer review process works in academic literature (from first hand experience as a "peer" /reviewer). The point of my post was that 'activist science' isn't science at all and when a peerage becomes ideologically possessed... then entire fields of research are epistemologically poisoned. In any event -- I clearly offended some mod and my account was banned the next day.
@@NuchiAsaki Honestly yeah. I think a big part of this that content creators are glossing over is the fact that for over a decade gamers have bought up anything EA has shoved out, no matter how buggy or half ahh the product was, so they thought they could sell any slop by the truck load... This is half the gamers fault TBH for having such low standards for so long, for pre-ordering half finished games for a decade now, we trained them into thinking we were gullible and now they put out this slop that's so bad that I've seen multiple trans people play it and cringe themselves at the dialog.
@@NuchiAsaki THIS!!!! EXACTLY, If people didn't buy the pile of effin garbage Inquisition was you wouldn't get VALEGUARD you would have likely seen hard turn to CRPG and abandonment of this god awful Mass Effectification of Dragon Age because past DA2 Dragon Age became Dragon Effect no longer same IP void of its identity and visibly inauthentic not to mention steep drop in storytelling and bonkers decisions in that department.
The fact that a character literally self-flagellates herself for getting the they/them thing wrong by doing an exercise routine (mild but physical punishment for accidental wrongspeak not even purposely lol)
Mass Effect Andromeda, Then Anthem, now Dragon Age... Three massive games in a row, three massive flops in a row. It's legitimately baffling how Bioware is still in business. I can only guess ME: Legendary Edition sold well enough to keep the lights on.
My favourite part is that the mother is not really hostile, angry or anything, but just confused, then tries to compare it something from her culture, so she can understand it a bit better, but ms Whiney throws a tantrum instead of explaining it.
> Put their own cringe activism into games that is so restrictive it's an antithesis to complex characters > We tell them we don't want it > They insult the fans and keep doing it > No one buys the game > Acts surprised Boys, we're gonna keep not giving a fuck and in 5 years when we have good games again because all the developers who think that their own agenda is more important than making good games are fired, were gonna be laughing
we had some bangers this year tho I think its always funny to see how people fall for the same trap everytime like I can't feel sorry for anyone who bought this and acts now suprised that this game sucks it was obvious even be4 trailers hit.
@@TheT1919that’s because they exploit your issues for personal clout then use it as a shield to justify their one dimensional cringe writing. It’s levels of evil so deep that the normal mind can hardly understand.
@@TheT1919 that's the thing. Most people don't care what you do behind the closed doors as long as you don't push it on them. We can respect each other and enjoy good games with good plot and good gameplay.
Would the Qunari even permit somebody to call themselves non-binary? Dragon Age Origins: Sten: Why are you here? Leliana: What do you mean? Sten: Women are priests, artisans, farmers or shopkeepers. None of them have any place in fighting. Leliana: I have no idea how to answer this... Sten: It is not done. There is no more to it. Leliana: Do you mean your people have no female mages or warriors? Sten: Of course not. Why would our women wish to be men? Leliana: What are you talking about? They don't wish to be men. Sten: They shouldn't. That can only lead to frustration. Leliana: Sten...no, never mind. Let's drop this.
The gay devs supplanting the entire qunari race (the design of which peaked in DA2-a game I dislike,btw,since its when the series started going into some very questionable directions) with their self-inserts is a gaming equivalent of a war crime.
@@МихаилСтупин-л5м Yeah people acting all surprised by this new dumpster fire of a game fail to see the small sparks and embers that it grew from. There was an instant drop in quality as early as going from Origins and Awakening to Dragon Age 2 and it's consistently gotten worse every installment until we're at where we're at today.
@@Nichaelas Yup. DA2-while not entirely dogwater-was an eyebrow raiser & had no business being called a sequel to the epic that was DA:O (a spinoff,perhaps).Still,with Mass Effect holding the line at the time,people weren't too worried. But then ME3 happened & it became clear that if Bioware (EAware) is willing to botch that (what was supposed to be the epic conclusion to its sci-fi trilogy) then its willing to botch everything else. And they did. Big time.
@@Jacob-df5hr Not a spinoff but an expansion to Origins (presumably something like Awakening). And yeah,EA,being EA,pulled a stunt similar to how they ruined the C&C games around the same time (turned a F2P spinoff for the asian region into the universally despised "Tiberium Twilight").
Yeah, I can't stress enough what ruined Veilguard was what it did to the Inquisition storyline. Every meaningful subplot dropped, Solas betrayal becomes a "he was kind of a good guy actually," and returning characters feel like cameos designed to gush about how awesome the new characters are. Mass Effect is doomed.
Exactly. The trespassers writing was so good! "For my world to live, yours must end." He was such a good villain in the making. He lives in a world with magic blocked by a veil he made. Where people die dont really leave you, just change into spirits. Being together with loved ones forever. Everyone in the existing world was basically not even people to him. Like a fake world where his people, instead of that utopia, once they die go to the fade and suffer in life after death. And the living elves enslaved when prior they had magical abilities on par with God's. It's still evil but you could totally see the guilt and shame he felt for not only ending his people and their world, but having to now kill millions to fix his mistake. A villain you can sympathize with. Instead they retcon that, and he was just moving the gods to a different prison, leaving the veil in place. His elf revolutionaries joining him? Abandoned the slave uprising cause god forbid we paint former slaves as bad guys. @thatbloomer5642
Im positive the reason they changed the way qunari look is because of Taash. They wanted self insert non binary character. So they changed an entire race
I don't necessarily think that wanting a non binary character was a reason for design change. At least not directly. Because keeping old design wouldn't really impact this "cause". By not directly, I think that someone wanted to self insert as qunari, so they made them look reBarded.
Look to be completely fair, the Qunari have been different in every single game. Origins Sten just a nordic black dude. DA2 Complete 180, ruthless looking dragon men. DA3, Similar to DA2 but a tad less rugged, DA4, the pussification continues. Seriously though the entire race has changed constantly so its a shit point.
The studio recently said the main reason none of the older games got any remasters over time is because not enough people in the studio even knows how to interact with the game engine. All sorts of mismanagement with this studio.
The late 90s and early 00s had the best devs. People who made games because they loved them. No surprise modern devs have no idea. They've become too corporate. The old school has moved on, and they are only the old studios by name
I’m really convinced the game is a masterpiece of post-irony - there’s no way something could be designed that bad unintentionally. Imagine being the Dragon Age devs and designers, forced to create a DEI-focused shit. It feels like it's right on the edge, between making fun of DEI/LGBT and somehow being unironically embraced by them.
Potential buyer: *Looks at IGN review* "This game must be a masterpiece if you rate this 9/10" IGN: "Yeah we didn't play it but this game reflects our political views so you should buy it, and don't buy the new wukong game since they haven't paid us our ransom money."
An ign review by Colin Moriarty used to mean something, it was literally gospel. Now ign means little more than something a games marketing team might say l. I don't understand how they make a profit anymore.
Trash is a weird, immature and obnoxious character... She could perfectly fit the personality of one of those hyper woke "gaming journalist" that hate gamers.
It’s very interesting that the only permutation of these characters that seem possible are entitled narcissistic losers who fail at basic human interactions. There’s probably some underlying pattern there…
"Everything is political! Get used to it!" "Okay, cool, so we're going to make some stuff that represents our conservative political beliefs." "Noooooooooo not like that! You're only allowed to make stuff that supports *our* beliefs!"
Same with these wannabe hippies and spiritual people. Most aggressive and mental weak people. They have no idea what a actual free bird is. Extremists are always bad
Taash was complaining about her mother and I gave the stoic "deal with it" response. I think it shut off the entire Taash questline. edit: about 70 hours in, I found out I was wrong. You get barv'ed and they/them'ed no matter what you do. The only way to avoid t is to bypass taash entirely. Locking youself out of content and the best companion for fighting dragons. Easily the most powerful dragon fighter in the game including the player. If the woke stuff annoys you, I wouldnt even bother playing it.
You can tell Taash had a different writer than the other companions. Some of the others are uneven (I'd say Davrin is the only consistently well-written character in that I feel like I'm interacting with a person, though his quest is lame), but Taash's dialogue, trauma dumping, and tantrums are so far removed from the writing of any other companion that I think there was some crybaby in the dev room that they just caved to and let them have their self-insert. It's so bad. I cannot stand interacting with Taash at all; I parked her ass at the Lighthouse and haven't talked to her since.
@@vulgaritar48 At first I liked Taash. Initially she was terse, stoic, and no-nonsense. She seemed like a refreshing change from the other characters who would just dump all their feelings on you in a heartbeat... then they started turning the facet and everything became about their gender identity issues and not the fact they have dragon blood. Poor Rook is probably thinking "I am not a therapist, I am trying to kill what are effectively gods, I do not have time for this melodrama."
I am already turned off with ugly characters and ugly costume design. Then if you managed to tolerate ugly characters and design, then the story is ugly, the dialogue is ugly and the treatment of legacy characters is ugly. There is no reason for me to play the Veilguard other than finding more memes to poke fun on cringe.
I was actually considering whether I would buy this game on a bargain bin sale... And I'm still thinking it would be a waste of my time. The only thing I actually care to experience in this game are the lore threads they actually deliver on, but I can just read about them or watch the story on TH-cam. Even if the game was only $5, I just can't see myself playing it. If it was some new, generic fantasy IP maybe, but there's no reason to play this game when I could be playing DAO, DAII, or even Inquisition.
I stil don'tunderstand why we even talk about this... Its a bad game, just say that we don't like it and move on. They aren't invested in the issues or problems only in the atention they can get for it. If you talk about it, even in a bad way you are just giving them what they want: pubiityand victim points... Jus ignore these instead and let natural selection of video games do its thing, otherwise we are just wasting eachothers time.
@@gaborcsuzi4504Talking about how much it sucks, let’s others know that it sucks; since “official” media reviews are now bought, or ideological, or both and generally untrustworthy now, discussing how it sucks is the only way somone who liked previous DA games will know this is nothing resembling a DA game and instead a big pile of dung. Discussion lets previous fans not get scammed by the bait and switch and saves increasingly tight money for something worthwhile, instead of finding out through a costly and terrible purchase.
@13:27 Imagine that, DEI, the type of people that want you to not mislabel them, yet they automatically resort to calling you fascist/nazi when you don't follow their beliefs.
Out of all the reasons to hate the game you chose the optional slider? Not the story, or the weird Mass Effect gameplay... but the optional content that's kinda been a theme of the series since DAO?
Thing is in Origins; you could be negative towards the npc companions and if you do certain things they could either leave, or try and kill you. Your interactions and story choices did affect your game.
KoTOR let you be incredibly evil. I remember meeting a widow who is selling the only memento of her dead husband. You can force her to give you the memento, force her to give you everything else she has, and force her to be mute. She just stands there terrified but silent. Plus Force Choke was literally a conversation option.
@ KoTOR2 wasn’t BioWare though. Have you played Jade Empire? That was the next rpg BioWare made after KoTOR. It’s like KoTOR and DA:O but set in ancient China.
Do you recall the dude at the beginning of Dead Space 2 who rescues Isaac and gets turned into a necromorph in the most visibly painful way? That's how my body reacted to this scene.
@Amadourrr But that's actually GOOD cringe. Like, holy shit that guy just turned into a monstrous abomination in front of me while I'm tied up time to RUN. However the growl scene in dragon age is the cringe that makes you close to throwing up.
In older games, you could miss recruiting a character or choose options so that character gets angry and leaves your party permanently. I wish this worked for Taash...
Both Morrigan and Alistair are iconic companion NPC's from Origins. They are both prime reasons why that RPG garnered such affection. Intricate dialogue options that you really had to think about, both of them superbly voice acted as well.
They also had some of the best banter in the series. They were mean to each other and the Warden didn't give a shit because he or she had more important things on their mind like stopping the archdemon. I can't imagine the Warden scolding them to make nice with each other. Morrigan would've told the Warden where to stick it lol.
One of my favourite lines isn't intricate at all: "Hey, look at me! I'm an elf! Trees are pretty! Tra-la-la." It comes out of nowhere and just cracked me up. I was also amused by Alistair disappearing in the Fade in a haze of confusion while yelling, "Hey, what's going on?" just as funny. 😂 But for sure I loved Morrigan and him bantering. Great stuff ❤ And Sten telling some fat kid that he doesn't need anymore cookies 🤣
Director of Mass Effect 5 is a normal 30ish year old man i'm pretty sure. He said the executive producer, art director, creative director and himself as game director are veterans from the original trilogy. He said this on his twitter: "Lots of people asking me about Mass Effect now that the Veilguard reviews are out, and oct 31 is close. Both are from the same studio, but Mass Effect is Mass Effect. How you bring a Sci Fi RPG to life is different than other genres or IPs...and has to have different kinds of love." "Regarding tone questions: Mass Effect will maintain the mature tone of the original Trilogy. This is all I'm gonna say for now." With this guy on the helm I'm cautiously optimistic about ME5.
@@FrederikSeerupNielsenstill suspicious for me ngl. Iirc DAV also had a normal director but creative differences made them leave, could happen the same with ME unless this fella is a headstrong and common sense driven individual willing to say no and stay to his principles amidst the super woke current bioware culture
@@FrederikSeerupNielsenI regret to inform you that he has also hyped up Dragon Age The Veilguard and has said very positive things prior to release even if he was forced to or felt like he had no choice knowing that veilguard developers are working on Mass Effect I dont want anything to do with it
Don't worry, Mass Effect 5 is going to be a very entertaining crash and burn, and the ME TV show from amazon is being written by Fast & Furious 9 writer, so we can laugh at that too.
I think I can put into words a sentiment most of us are feeling. We don't dislike politics in our entertainment. We dislike propaganda in our entertainment.
Mortismal lost my respect. For him Veilguard is GOTY claiming all other games in 2024 are underwhelming and Veilguard is the best of all the dragon age games. So much cope
@@monkeyleechkoalannja I've unsubbed from quite a few formerly based (or at least neutral) content creators who've started to behave more and more like access media the bigger they got. Bellular, Mortismal, Angry Joe, a handful of guys in my country whose names won't tell you anything... No one deserves loyalty. Not politicians, not actors, not game devs, not content creators. Loyalty is earned and you gotta keep earning it to maintain it. These days I have no qualms whatsoever whenever I'm putting yet another name on my personal blacklist.
About Taash, that's the difference between being woke and not. BG3 contains progressive messaging, but it's not woke (in my eyes) cause it's not preaching to you and it allows you to engage with it however you want. For example, in my first run I staked Astarion, cause he was a vampire trying to bite me in the sleep. That wasn't an evil run, just a rational reaction to what was happening. DA:V would force me to apologize to the gay man for being so stingy with my blood...
That really is just the difference between a story with nuances and a story with none. Woke is a non-factor, the straight stories in DAV are just as bad, blaming it on wokeness is giving the writers too much credit.
@@None38389 This. Failing upward bad writers is what thrashes stories like this, not being woke or not. You can totally do "woke" topics if you want to, but it's going to come off as fake unless you properly integrate it with the world and contextualize it in a realistic way for that world. Cyberpunk has some incredible woke themes in it's transhumanism, but that is because of how trivial the traits are because you can just chrome up and change it. So the dividing lines becomes based on the technology / classes rather than races / sexes. But that takes some writing chops to do this cohesively. Chops many of these "professional" writers just do not have.
@@None38389 yeah, but I'm talking about that aspect. And it's not secondary, cause it permeates all of the writing, in many productions. We've all experienced in the last years the situation when a "diverse" character was in danger or supposedly evil and we thought "no way that's gonna happen" for no other reason of their identity. Many current writers are not bad and woke, they're bad because of that (self imposed nonsensical rules do not help creativity)
From what I've seen, the only thing I would consider 'woke' from BG3 is the character creator with the made up genders and pronoun options, which was sneaky since those options weren't in the beta/early access of BG3, they were inserted into the full release so no one could criticize Larian Studios before it was too late.
They deleted my comment because no resources on one of political subbreddit just to lift it after 2 days before I put the reference. Those people that counterargument me doesn't have references to what they're saying. Truly a reddit moment lol
Next to resetera and the old woke Neogaf. And now the place the resetera people fled too "famiboards" (looks nicer at first glance, but its the same shitty ideology inside with massive censorship. Its like communist bubbles.
Reminder, steam hid negative reviews and said this was "overwhelmingly positive" Edit: its bioware that controls comments but steam allows them and all devs to do the same, so sorta their fault but more blame on devs for wasting your money
@@shawntame45 Meta critic doesn't verify that you have the game you claim to have. Tell me your favorite piece of media and what should I write about it, and I will score it with the lowest score I can. Lets see how long it last.
@Braiam you can be mad amd claim it's review bombing if you like I really could care less. It's not me or you who decides it's the community. And the community told you in it's reviews and it's player counts. You can choose to ignore that if you want. You do you boo
@tpproject8845 it's the safest bet. Wait till after release and check them out. Too many devs been getting away with shit games to keep just blindly buying them
Thats something I have always hated about reddit... how subreddits can just automatically ban you just for following someone or simply being vaguely associated with another subreddit they dont like...
It is a left wing liberal echo chamber. Look at the meltdown the whole app had when trump won. One of the post was about a mentally disturbed woman who deleted herself after election results. The amount of mental illness in America needs to be studied because how can people behave like this if their party didn't win.
Reddit is 💀 to me honestly since Ellen pao took over like years ago. TH-cam comments section has been based, but the censorship here is off the charts.
And the mods usually don’t even need a reason to mass ban people. A free speech Warhammer 40k subreddit (r/Horusgalaxy) got targeted by at least half of the other Warhammer subreddits due to a mod having a mental breakdown and blaming the entire subreddit and they jumped on it no question. When the HG mods asked them what happened it was either an on the spot lie or spastic rambling that bears no proof. (it was a few months ago I might not remember the whole thing correctly)
- "thats why we recruited them" - "how many did you recruit?" - "one soldier" - "why do you use plural then?! I thought we got a bunch of people!" - "yeah.... about that"
"And then you throw Kurt Angle in the Mix and your chances of winning drastically go down. See the Three-Way at Sacrifice, you got a 33% 1/3rd chance of winning, but I, I got a 66% and 2/3rds chance of winning, because Kurt Angle knows he can't beat me so he's not even gonna try! So Samoa Joe, you take your 33% 1/3rd chance, minus my 25% chance and you got an 8% 1/3rd chance of winning at Sacrifice. But then you take my 75% chance of winning, if we was to go one on one, and then add 66% 2/3, I got 141% 2/3 chance of winning at Sacrifice." "See Joe, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you at Sacrifice."
Did they seriously just take *the* argument as to why the use of plural chosen pronouns is linguistically problematic and used it in an attempt to normalize their use? 😂
You DO have to talk to any trans person as if theyre a child. Its not just an unflattering depiction in this game. Its reality. You cant even tell them that men cant give birth without them calling YOU a science denier. You try way too hard not to offend these people bro. They demand that you deny reality for the sake of their feelings. Its ludicrously insulting to the intelligence of mentally sound individuals.
You know, I realized that it didnt used to be this way, with gamers genuinely hoping games would fail. At the most, you'd be apathetic or just disappointed, but you wouldn't have people actively searching for a games dwindling player numbers and laughing at it. This is the result of choosing "morals" over a games actual audience. Its become truly toxic and they have no one to blame but themselves.
It is always best to avoid pre-orders really. Never worth it these days to pre-order a game, even if it looks good up until the last second of release. Pre-order bonuses are rarely worth the high risk of 60-70 dollar loss really.
Anyone remember when Bioware put in options to be as evil as you want? My first KOTOR1 run through as a kid I was arc lightning-ing wookies and using the Jedi mind trick to convince them to jump into a pit. Feels like Larian stole their niche in the market and they are totally out of ideas.
it's not just Larian, Owlcat made Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous where your MC is not just good/neutral/evil path but also your MC can become a lich with an undead army or become a bundle of insects with a swarm. Bioware is not the old Bioware that made DA : Origins
Dragon age origins - Until the Grey Wardens came. Men and women from every race, warriors and mages, barbarians and kings, the Grey Wardens sacrificed everything to stem the tide of darkness, and prevailed. It has been four centuries since that victory, and we have kept our vigil. We have watched and waited for the darkspawn to return. But those, who once called us heroes, have forgotten. We are few now, and our warnings have been ignored for too long. It may even be too late, for I have seen with my own eyes what lies upon the horizon. Maker help us all. Dragon age veilguard- So...I'm non binary.
In theatrical performances, there's a thing called "aside", it's when a character breaks away from the act and speaks to the audience. Some of these scenes, like the whole "how to apologize properly" lecture, feels like the writers were pulling an aside.
There is aside. Then there is badly written where you have no side to aside from. If you brake away from the act, and you can not tell that the act is broken? Then no. There is no aside. 4th wall brake. That is what it is called in movies/comics etc. Deadpool being a character that you expect to brake constantly, yet stays ALWAYS in character. Have watched literally propaganda that is many tiers better... If even propaganda of cartoons can avoid asides and 4th wall brakes? Excuse me. This is all a excuse of bad writing. There was no attempts at aside. There was no attempts at all. All the dialog is writing in a modern form, for a medieval magic themed game. Nope. Der Fuehrer's Face. Donald duck cartoon. Watch it every Christmas. (Swedish TV tradition)
@@TheDiner50 I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. My point is that it feels like monologues to educate the audience rather than a natural dialog between the characters, something I wouldn't expect in a game.
13:08 fun fact, that was my comment and the mods deleted it for Bigotry when asmon reviewed this on his stream. Thanks for ratting me out man xD So no, the mods haven't given up on making the subreddit an echo chamber
My comment was the one where I pointed out that their name gets autocorrected to Trash and it's still up! 250+ upvotes and slowly climbing as people find it(because the post it was on got closed)
Morrigan wasn't just hot or “sexualized,” she was a wise, cunning, badass and strong woman. For me personally, this is an ideal, perfection. And such women exist in real life. When I met one, I was never able to love any other woman again. The Origins developers managed to create an outstanding and realistic character in a dark fantasy rpg, and what do we have in Vailguard? Just a random aunty, nothing special.
I can't even keep her in my party because she disapproves of pretty much all my choices, but I understand why she's the way she is and I was able to befriend and appreciate her despite our differences.That's how you write a good character.
Reminder that in Baldur's Gate 3 you can kill pretty much everyone you want. Literally can shove a companion off a ship right after you are introduced to her and they are gone forever.
28:30 AS an Asian living in Asia I'm so happy to hear Asmon is trying to play more Asian games. I am a little older than Asmon. I play both Japanese games and Western games when I was a kid, C&C, Red Alert, Starcraft, Diablo II, AoE II, Half-Life etc. They were soooo great. Nowadays a lot of Western games have become a platform for forcing identity politics, which is really sad. But most of the Eastern games are still intact, in fact, a lot of Japanese game companies are even emphasizing they are "return to the root of JRPG (王道)" to gain old gamers back. That's why we are getting more and more 2000's-like vibe games from Japan. Hope one day the West can do the same and bring their glory days back.
It's been decades, and Japanese devs still can't into games. 60 FPS locks, clunky UIs, poor optimisation. Every time I pick up a Japanese game, I struggle with the most stupid things that don't have a single reason to be an issue. How do they even make their games if, judging by their UIs, mice and keyboards don't exist in Japan
sadly in my experience (and thois might not apply to all but i have seen it several times now) many asian games have a habit of forcing players to play the Meta to even be able to complete the story of the game. MMOs especially are the worst case of it :/ wich really sucks cause the games had some absolutely fantastic ideas
Hahahahahhahaha good luck with nintendo killing all stuff thats better than them like "palworld" Soyny,moving to california. And the ONU saying that anime its "problematic" hahahahahaha lets see how long your hopes last.
@@jonny-b4954 You're correct; it's a single player game, and not an MMO or something, meaning people will stop playing it sooner. Now consider the fact that Black Myth Wukong still has more people playing it than Dragon Age Veilguard currently does, despite having come out three months ago.
In ME 1 you had to have high Paragon, high Renegade, or completed Wrex's personal quest by the time you got to the Krogan Facility story mission if you wanted to keep him alive. A character that was important in both ME 2 and ME 3 could have died in ME 1 if you didn't have the pre-requisites completed so you could choose to save him. Even then you still made the choice.
@@gadman85 In BG1 and BG2 you could kill anyone and everyone pretty much lol. Bioware isn't that company anymore though, none of the original people are left. It's just EA parading around Bioware's corpse at this point with no one who worked on any of the good games still working there.
Ah the Darkside run in kotor was heartbreaking in some parts. Having Zaalbar kill Mission to prove his life debt was rough. Its one of the few times Ive felt bad making a choice in a game.
"The character is an asshole unnecessarily to innocent people" Turns out that if you are merciful upon the cruel, you will end up by being cruel to the merciful.
remember: they bannned ANYONE in the subreddit for even thinking about talking bad about the game, and banned you even though you were excited to try it.
tbf I've checked several times, I'm not banned from any of the reddits that have been mentioned so far in this drama... so its definitely not an autoban thing.
They also just couldn’t make it today. All the chefs and staff have left. Their lesser replacements lost most of the recipes and have no creativity. This is a (sinking) Ship of Theseus situation, and they are BioWare in name only. Nothing they’re cooking is edible let alone great and memorable.
''There’s no way they’d let you chose Jedi or Sith as your path.'' Yeah you would be a non binary force user, since you dont want to be part of a group. Then creating 10 groups. Also sith cant be evil, all are just good people who did some wrong things.
I am a woman in my early 20s and I despise it when previously attractive characters get dumbed down to 0 attractiveness. Seggsualizing women in video games is NOT what's dehumanizing, portraying women as something that should not be seggsualized is what's actually dehumanizing. I love being able to look at a character, man or woman, and go "They're very attractive". Making your audience feel like deviants for being attracted to a character you once made to be attractive is insulting to the fans and the franchise.
Very interesting you point this out because one thing I noticed with some of these games that pander to the left wing identity politics, is that these games make characters look completely gender neutral. None of the features that you see on the characters in dragon age allow you to clearly distinguish if this is a male or a female. It is like the game THE FINALS, where every character looks borderline female. And the thing is, sure idc whatever.. But like when you don't have options to make your character look a certain way, then it becomes just weird and bad...
@@GNatanel its to circumvent the censorship algorithm that randomly removes some people’s comments for certain word combinations or shadowbans them, how do you not know that by now?
i don't get it. why do people always use "sexualized" as a synonyme to "attractive"? you can have attractive female characters without sexualizing them. shadowheart in bg3 is also attractive without being sexualized. and i find it annoying when i see that a character is only sexualized bc of fan service and not bc it fits the character. to me that's immersion breaking.
Apparently if you do something to Torres in the game she will eventually oof herself hypnotic on last Saturday's live broadcast with his friends found out about that and apparently if she does oof herself you get a game over which doesn't make sense so they made it to where you have to have that character or you can't play the game
DAV is actually a brilliant allegory for Transgenderism. It is something trying to be what it isn't, it wears the skin of what it is trying to be, but everyone looks at it and can see very clearly that it isn't that thing.
I feel like if anyone has a mental meltdown over a presidential candidate you shouldn't be working at a video game Studio. There should be prerequisite like if there's a political events or or like an election they should not be allowed to post any tweets that make the person in question and the studio in a bad light.
this dei crap being called out for its bs like falsely translating femboys to trans in that mange is exactly why Crunchyroll shut off its comment section.
terroist propaganda is done and this will soon be over period. none of the old ideology's can be allowed to exist. the left being in exitance is the problem.
There's many reasons I wouldn't pay into Crunchyroll these days - their business practices, them stealing fan mail sent to their voice actors etc. But still the main reason is that I can't trust their translations. And, I don't understand why anyone pays for it when we know the translations aren't truthful?
I mean, considering how people flipped out about RDR2 where you can lasso feminist protesters and do all kinds of shenanigans, I doubt that would go over very well
@@СергейМалышев-ю8щ Steam alone only sold like 80k at most, if we counted that as a third of total sale then the total sale was only like 240k copies. At most they would probably only sold 300k, not even half million lol.
One of the best features of Cyberpunk is the ability to ignore whatever quest you are on to go do some random other event. BG3 as well. If I don't like a character, I never have to see them in game. All games of this nature should take notes.
This is anti-woke nonsense. The game is doing demonstrably fine. You can look up data yourself without cherry-picking times when many players are at work.
@@schplengie1 Still only has sold barely 1 million copies. It hasn't even made its budget back and people are shitting on it left and right. That means it's a failure.
For me the canary in the mine was the first gameplay trailer. When their level 1 rouge used magic, even though magic in lore is born and not learned. Even those born with magic sometimes hurt themselves while learning control. We see this in DAO mage origin.
some people say you could just play and ignore the dialogue, duh, its like saying dont critic it or dont tell the truth. Is it wrong if you gave value to dialogue its like a break time in the game yet youll going to be stressed for everything youll read or heard.
people think others are nitpicking a scene or two but I knew the moment I saw the first one presented there had to be at least two dozen more identical scenes just waiting to be posted for the internet at large to mock for Dragqueen Age : The Therapyguard
Ironically, Dragon Age: Inquisition had Dorian, who did have to face issues from his father because he is gay, but it was well written and executed. Nothing was pushed onto you and it felt sincere.
Wasn't there one character who was a women but everyone thought she was a man cause she wanted to be like her dad and Wasn't a huge ass about it when asked?
"And so is the golden city blackened With each step you take in my hall. Marvel at perfection, for it is fleeting. You have brought Sin to Heaven And doom upon all the world." -Canticle of Threnodies 8;13
Veilguard is that one fanfiction written by a 14yr old on wattpad where every sentences has emojis at the end and interactions are too cringe to not be uncomfortable, where the plot is all over the place, where everyone must be a love interest and is into the mc, and where every character bar none are out of character and barely recognisable from the base material.
I agree with you. Gameplay does not mean just combat. Stories and characters were done in a way that resembles what a game is. I still don't think people know what a game is. There used to be a genre called "Game Book". It died off and not a lot of people know of it. I read a couple of "Game Book" types years ago. Understand what the no longer exist "Game Book" genre is and play Dragon Age 1 and one will understand what makes Dragon Age Origin good. Too many people have too straightforward thinking and likes to play the blame game. Sigh....
I did say I would be surprised if they sold even 1 million copies. Seeing as they need atleast around 4 million sold to make a profit, bioware is suffering alot right now.
It’s worse than that. This isn’t a blip. It’s a pattern of failed games, meaning they were hoping to recoup ALL loses with this title. This was meant to be their Black Friday sale.
@Kyryyn_Lyyh Shadow realms, Andromeda, Anthem and now Veilgaurd. Anthem was the only one that had a shot of succeeding, but they lacked the ability to fulfill their promises and instead tried to lie like they did with veilgaurd to ensure profits. But people are quick to forgive bioware, and forget the past crap they tried to pull, simply because they loved of dragon age origins, and the mass effect trilogy. People don't want to admit to themselves that the current bioware is not the company that they loved, but one that would love if those games never existed.
they already shut down bioware montreal after andromeda, so bioware "proper" has 2 strikes if mass effect 5 sucks i hope it's their last game they ever make lol
A friend of mine was telling me lore drops that the game had and he prefaced every one with "whoo boy this is gonna piss you off" because they obviously just care about their story and none of the others in the franchise
@@pepebongo You don't like that I brought this up and you cant prove it wrong, so you make a nonsensical personal attack against me. That is all you got. You are the one being cringe.
@@YOGI-kb9tg @marcusgarvey9933 Churchill literally committed genocide against millions of East Indians and called for the genocide of all Hindus, but that’s never mentioned.
@@YOGI-kb9tgHe was also an alcoholic, while “moustache man” was an avid vegan and an animal lover, he literally was the first person in German history to create laws that protected animals. As always, people with 0 foresight like you fail to notice the obvious. You should NEVER judge a person work based on what he does in his personal life. Churchill was a great PM and knew how important it was to drift the ethics of the British society in order to preserve integrity. He being an alcoholic, smoker, beating his wife and so on. Has NOTHING to do with his political work and the quality of the policies he selected to follow.
Some identify as non-buyinary, others realize that being a buyer is not who they truly are and transition into refundees. Isn't diversity beautiful 🌈
💀
De-transactioners
Fucking gold 😭👌
The good ending
The more you know... 🌈 ⭐
Veilguard is easily the worst game in the series. It's a shame how far Bioware has fallen. They used to make the best RPGs but those days are gone
Glad to see the guy who’s made very long videos showing all the evil outcomes in BG3 here😂That’s some dedication right there.
Agreed EA had to sack the OGs
Holy shit! Sup Dan!
Imagine this timeline where you can unironically say, "Man, remember the good old days of 'Dragon Age 2?'"
It's because the people behind those games are no longer with the studio. The studio is nothing but new people, the worst kind of people at that.
DEI : We accept everyone
Also DEI : Ban everyone disagree with them.
Dei: we accept anyone that is nuts like us.
Whatever they say they're "anti" they're actually "pro" against people they don't like
If you are white or Asian and not LBTQ they pretty much hate you, this is just old fashioned racism, just in a direction that is different from what it used to be in America.
If they treated everyone equally, it wouldn't have been a problem but imagine if Trash was a white person acting this way in the game, would everyone have treated the NPC the same way then?
Just because you are different in some way then the average person does not mean you should be treated like some kind of princess.According to Smash JT, his sources from Bioware basically say something similar is going on at Bioware, with these kinds of sensitivity meetings.
Just us whiteeeeeee men 🤣
DEI simply means remove straight low melanin men and add high melanin people, LGBTQ people and women. Nothing to do with accepting everyone. Notice nobody EVER asks for DEI when its majority female, LGBTQ or high melanin people. I say this specifically because in all of DEIs history "we want more diversity" never means ok add an East Asian man.
Turns out someone whose only real life dialogue options are "Try to force your opinion on him" or "Call him a buzzword insult" doesn't do a great job writing dialogue.
Maybe they should add Canceling and Namecalling as a special skill in their games, oh wait..
@@troy2223 I feel like Concord and Dustborn were actually the game industry's attempts at seeing how 'modern audiences' react if they actually DO just go all out. New IPs, new characters, new everything that has no 'toxic fanbases' that care about stupid nerdy stuff like 'lore continuity' and 'characters looking and acting like they have for three games already'. Best of all, one of them was more of a smaller, indie type game, and the other was a massive billion dollar attempt at a new MCU of gaming by a AAA studio. Both failed.
That has to have the publishers panicking, and is definitely the real reason why Ubisoft the publisher delayed AC Shadows (Star Wars Outlaws was too far along and they had contracts with Disney). They're doing one of two things; either hoping to 'wait out' this current industry wide sentiment of the playerbase that hates what they're doing, OR, they are actually trying to fix things. I'm not getting my hopes up that any of these companies are picking option A, to be honest, considering after all these other flops they still put out Veilguard, and that Survivor 9 or whatever game, which flopped just as hard.
The lead writer for DA: Veilguard is the same for Mass Effect 5.
@@lighthawkgames5805mass effect ended as a trilogy, pay no attention to the shambling corpses wearing its skin that came after
@@lighthawkgames5805 heartbreaking stuff
Them: "Democracy!"
Also them: "How dare you have a different opinion than me!?" >:(
You know how they all keep saying 'Our democracy'? Non-leftists mistakenly believe they are part of that 'our'. They never were.
you mean they them
They are just not smart enough to figure out that they act like socialists and not democrats at all. And their hardcore people act like communists and live life like that. So we only have extreme leftist and radical leftist claiming to be democrats.
Ofc everything conservative sounds radical right wing to them.
Lol yep and they being one person but using the word they to describe themself/selves -_- is equal to me saying "call me a they, but by they I mean demons living inside me and steering me wrong!" Type ahhh shiiih
I just want a dark fantasy that doesn't have gendered bullshit injected into it. I don't mind BG3 styled playersexual NPCs if you must have romance as a feature, but I play games to get away from this kind of shit, not dive right into it. Honestly, I wouldn't even care if it was there if it was interesting and makes sense in lore, but most of the time it isn't and doesn't.
This makes me so fucking happy for one reason. The absolute copium in the steam reviews. Most of the positive reviews say something along the line that the story sucked but the gameplay is fun. It's a fucking RPG, giving it a positive review when the story sucks is fucking insane.
To be fair an awful lot of positive reviews are clearly either mixed or negative ones that are trying to avoid getting deleted for "review bombing."
@@TheAngryXenite I learned something new today. That's pretty lame, if they have the hours they have a right to be honest.
Yeah, this game getting positives reviews in steam that amount to "writing is cringe, the rest is mid, thumbs up" helped me realize just how low some peoples standards are.
@@anon2752 Had me wondering if it was low standards or virtue signaling nonsense.
Sounds like you're the one with the copium here...
The fact that Jason _"own the chuds"_ Schreier deleted the post where he claimed that the game was doing extremely well is just icing on Dragon Age the Deiguard cake 😅
I didn't appreciate Carlton in my youth but the memes are always on point
🤣🤣 I didn't know that, amazing! I'm glad he got a couple days and a tweet to feel good about himself before he had to see Trump get the trifecta and this game flop
Haha Jason "she/he" schreier.
Everyone should keep reminding him. Mention him in screenshots.
The fact that Schreier managed to crawl out of the Kotaku cesspool is proof media is damaged beyond repair
Putting cosmetic surgery scars in a game where you can use magic to heal mortal wounds is INSANE
Remember, they took healing magic out of Inquisition for 'reasons.'
Maybe it was to have those scars, and the scars they added to Varric make sense.
Or maybe it was because if the player tried to play a healer in DAV, it would not be action-y enough to distract players from the companions' ineffectiveness.
Maybe it’s like taking hair growth supplements and only works unless you’re fully bald. 😂
Who knew having a trash story in an rpg would be devastating
Trash story, trash characters, and trash gameplay.
Trash ideology created a trash nihlistic worldview which attempted creativity, but made trash in an attempt to push a trash ideology.
@@txorimorea3869 but truly you can forgive the bad character design and even the gameplay as its not awful. Its just not deep. But with a deep story and choices that matter. Challenging players all along the way with adult themes. It could have been all that game needed to make it a huge hit. I truly think its just the writing that killed it.
It not an rpg
@@ClayMann Why would I have to “forgive” anything in the first place?
99% of people would kill taash in the first 5 minutes if it was a real rpg though...
There's a lesbian companion in KOTOR you can do this with, but I always kept her because she was actually interesting and you wouldn't even know she's a lesbian unless you play a female protagonist and try to romance her.
I mean forget about questlines and disbanding, I'd straight up FUS-RO-DAH that trash down a cliff and never think of it again.
@@Harding1077 yeah she looked like sheeva cat lady thing. I didn't notice cause I never romanced her lol
First time i played dark souls, i killed every NPC, because i didnt like the creepy way they laughed. You damn right she would Go down. 😂😂😂
I'd have loved the option to sell her to a slaver, similar to how you can with Fenris in DA2.
Slaver offers 20 gold, I'd counter for 3 coppers.
Reminder: IGN gave this game a 9/10
Jesus Christ
Reminder turtle is a a bot!
And gave Mario And Luigi Brothership a 5.
Reminder: IGN is just an irrelevant blog that no one should care about.
They aren't reviewers, they are activists.
Technically, banning for crossparticipation is against Reddit's TOS and grounds for closure of a sub.
But good luck getting that enforced evenly on that hive.
The problem is leftists working at reddit iself. But they are a pubilcy traded company now. So, they will have to change soon
It will be enforced: for right wing leaning subreddits. Remember, rules for thee and not for me.
Is everyone that has power within reddit trans? I was abruptly banned for life from all of reddit -- I can't even remember what sub, but I wrote a detailed response to someone in which I described how the peer review process works in academic literature (from first hand experience as a "peer" /reviewer). The point of my post was that 'activist science' isn't science at all and when a peerage becomes ideologically possessed... then entire fields of research are epistemologically poisoned.
In any event -- I clearly offended some mod and my account was banned the next day.
Veilguard unintentionally got gamers out to vote 😂
I bet it happened at least a few times
Definitely
Yep at least a few thousand 👍
They didn't realize they were pushing Trump's campaing...
I believe this is very true, but really it's just a resentment that has been festering for awhile now.
Jack Sparrowed this game and still want a refund.
Source?
You are, without a doubt, the worst pirate I've ever heard of.
@@sharkzillah401 but you have heard of me 🤔
You can't get a refund for your time. That is why I advise against pirating games like this.
Unfortunately, you can't get a time refund
Bioware: *"Why aren't we succeeding? All of the journalists said it was GOTY?!"*
"Why aren't we succeeding? They bought our other shitty games!"
Big oof
@@NuchiAsaki Honestly yeah. I think a big part of this that content creators are glossing over is the fact that for over a decade gamers have bought up anything EA has shoved out, no matter how buggy or half ahh the product was, so they thought they could sell any slop by the truck load...
This is half the gamers fault TBH for having such low standards for so long, for pre-ordering half finished games for a decade now, we trained them into thinking we were gullible and now they put out this slop that's so bad that I've seen multiple trans people play it and cringe themselves at the dialog.
@@NuchiAsaki THIS!!!! EXACTLY, If people didn't buy the pile of effin garbage Inquisition was you wouldn't get VALEGUARD you would have likely seen hard turn to CRPG and abandonment of this god awful Mass Effectification of Dragon Age because past DA2 Dragon Age became Dragon Effect no longer same IP void of its identity and visibly inauthentic not to mention steep drop in storytelling and bonkers decisions in that department.
@@lordhater4207 Take it back to the roots. Shattered Steel and Baldur's Gate should have been flops.
The fact that a character literally self-flagellates herself for getting the they/them thing wrong by doing an exercise routine (mild but physical punishment for accidental wrongspeak not even purposely lol)
Mass Effect Andromeda, Then Anthem, now Dragon Age... Three massive games in a row, three massive flops in a row.
It's legitimately baffling how Bioware is still in business.
I can only guess ME: Legendary Edition sold well enough to keep the lights on.
What will they do next, resurrect Jade Empire to ruin that too?
@@Harding1077 Using the term "Jade" to an Asian theme would probably be called problematic.
@jonpaul6948 na, it's the new stage name of a drag Idol.
@@Harding1077 Don't give them ideas.
Anthey-them
>Invites Mom for dinner
>I'm the last one to sit
>Everyone seems to be chilling
" I'm non binary"
*Cue Seinfield theme along with a laugh track*
*Curb your Enthusiasm reverb theme*
My favourite part is that the mother is not really hostile, angry or anything, but just confused, then tries to compare it something from her culture, so she can understand it a bit better, but ms Whiney throws a tantrum instead of explaining it.
@@attilavarga1152 what's this from?
@@thecursed01 It's from Yet Another Traash Scene in which the described happens. Really.
More like family guy reaction, "who the fuck starting a conversation like that?? I just sat down!
> Put their own cringe activism into games that is so restrictive it's an antithesis to complex characters
> We tell them we don't want it
> They insult the fans and keep doing it
> No one buys the game
> Acts surprised
Boys, we're gonna keep not giving a fuck and in 5 years when we have good games again because all the developers who think that their own agenda is more important than making good games are fired, were gonna be laughing
we had some bangers this year tho I think its always funny to see how people fall for the same trap everytime like I can't feel sorry for anyone who bought this and acts now suprised that this game sucks it was obvious even be4 trailers hit.
I am someone who is literally non-binary and I was livid seeing the audacity of people to think this was good game choices.
@@TheT1919that’s because they exploit your issues for personal clout then use it as a shield to justify their one dimensional cringe writing. It’s levels of evil so deep that the normal mind can hardly understand.
@@TheT1919 that's the thing. Most people don't care what you do behind the closed doors as long as you don't push it on them. We can respect each other and enjoy good games with good plot and good gameplay.
By the time 5 years later, I would have enough to buy a new PC + have funds to buy good games, ty cringe activism for helping me saving
Would the Qunari even permit somebody to call themselves non-binary? Dragon Age Origins:
Sten: Why are you here?
Leliana: What do you mean?
Sten: Women are priests, artisans, farmers or shopkeepers. None of them have any place in fighting.
Leliana: I have no idea how to answer this...
Sten: It is not done. There is no more to it.
Leliana: Do you mean your people have no female mages or warriors?
Sten: Of course not. Why would our women wish to be men?
Leliana: What are you talking about? They don't wish to be men.
Sten: They shouldn't. That can only lead to frustration.
Leliana: Sten...no, never mind. Let's drop this.
The gay devs supplanting the entire qunari race (the design of which peaked in DA2-a game I dislike,btw,since its when the series started going into some very questionable directions) with their self-inserts is a gaming equivalent of a war crime.
@@МихаилСтупин-л5м Yeah people acting all surprised by this new dumpster fire of a game fail to see the small sparks and embers that it grew from. There was an instant drop in quality as early as going from Origins and Awakening to Dragon Age 2 and it's consistently gotten worse every installment until we're at where we're at today.
@@Nichaelas Yup. DA2-while not entirely dogwater-was an eyebrow raiser & had no business being called a sequel to the epic that was DA:O (a spinoff,perhaps).Still,with Mass Effect holding the line at the time,people weren't too worried. But then ME3 happened & it became clear that if Bioware (EAware) is willing to botch that (what was supposed to be the epic conclusion to its sci-fi trilogy) then its willing to botch everything else. And they did. Big time.
@@МихаилСтупин-л5м iirc DA2 was supposed to be a spinoff but EA wanted to market a sequel
@@Jacob-df5hr Not a spinoff but an expansion to Origins (presumably something like Awakening). And yeah,EA,being EA,pulled a stunt similar to how they ruined the C&C games around the same time (turned a F2P spinoff for the asian region into the universally despised "Tiberium Twilight").
Yeah, I can't stress enough what ruined Veilguard was what it did to the Inquisition storyline. Every meaningful subplot dropped, Solas betrayal becomes a "he was kind of a good guy actually," and returning characters feel like cameos designed to gush about how awesome the new characters are.
Mass Effect is doomed.
Solas' reveal in Trespasser is a good starting point to make such a complex villain. Too bad, they let it crash and burn.
Exactly. The trespassers writing was so good! "For my world to live, yours must end." He was such a good villain in the making. He lives in a world with magic blocked by a veil he made. Where people die dont really leave you, just change into spirits. Being together with loved ones forever. Everyone in the existing world was basically not even people to him. Like a fake world where his people, instead of that utopia, once they die go to the fade and suffer in life after death. And the living elves enslaved when prior they had magical abilities on par with God's. It's still evil but you could totally see the guilt and shame he felt for not only ending his people and their world, but having to now kill millions to fix his mistake. A villain you can sympathize with. Instead they retcon that, and he was just moving the gods to a different prison, leaving the veil in place. His elf revolutionaries joining him? Abandoned the slave uprising cause god forbid we paint former slaves as bad guys. @thatbloomer5642
Veilguard is basically trying to be a reboot of the dragon age series just like saints row tried to be.
who said woke games were canon
Makes me sad
Im positive the reason they changed the way qunari look is because of Taash. They wanted self insert non binary character. So they changed an entire race
100% for sure
I don't necessarily think that wanting a non binary character was a reason for design change. At least not directly. Because keeping old design wouldn't really impact this "cause". By not directly, I think that someone wanted to self insert as qunari, so they made them look reBarded.
Truely, it was a terrible waste. So hilariously bad that it's not even good.
Lucky you
Look to be completely fair, the Qunari have been different in every single game. Origins Sten just a nordic black dude. DA2 Complete 180, ruthless looking dragon men. DA3, Similar to DA2 but a tad less rugged, DA4, the pussification continues. Seriously though the entire race has changed constantly so its a shit point.
The studio recently said the main reason none of the older games got any remasters over time is because not enough people in the studio even knows how to interact with the game engine. All sorts of mismanagement with this studio.
That’s super believable we have old equipment at my job and these new engineers are lost 😂
That's what happened when you fire the old team for some nonsense and they just leave and refuse to teach the new guy how things works
@@theunknowman12it’s also what happens when ever game engine is streamlined and borrowing assets
The late 90s and early 00s had the best devs. People who made games because they loved them. No surprise modern devs have no idea. They've become too corporate. The old school has moved on, and they are only the old studios by name
Sounds like Nintendo
I’m really convinced the game is a masterpiece of post-irony - there’s no way something could be designed that bad unintentionally. Imagine being the Dragon Age devs and designers, forced to create a DEI-focused shit. It feels like it's right on the edge, between making fun of DEI/LGBT and somehow being unironically embraced by them.
Potential buyer: *Looks at IGN review* "This game must be a masterpiece if you rate this 9/10"
IGN: "Yeah we didn't play it but this game reflects our political views so you should buy it, and don't buy the new wukong game since they haven't paid us our ransom money."
An ign review by Colin Moriarty used to mean something, it was literally gospel.
Now ign means little more than something a games marketing team might say l.
I don't understand how they make a profit anymore.
"I don't understand how they make a profit anymore." EGS/BRIDGE initiative. It's aaaaall DEI grants to make sure "the work" is done.
It's the opposite these days lol, the low scores from IGN are what to look for 😂
@@bogstandardash3751They are part of the access media
@@ujiltromm7358 who is paying for the grants and why?
Trash is a weird, immature and obnoxious character... She could perfectly fit the personality of one of those hyper woke "gaming journalist" that hate gamers.
They do love their self-inserts
It’s very interesting that the only permutation of these characters that seem possible are entitled narcissistic losers who fail at basic human interactions.
There’s probably some underlying pattern there…
I think there was a journalist from Kotaku in the writing team for this game. So you may be really close to the truth with this one.
She is literally the self-insert of the game's head writer.
“Get out of your echo chamber!”
Bans everyone with different opinions
Literally Reddit, that site is unusable now
Also bans everyone with inconvenient objective facts.
@@drkexi got banned from a weed reddit, for talking about weed….. Absolutely a clown show
The left will be outlawed soon.
@@drkexi dont use it anymore. 99% of Reddit mods are extreme left activists.
Lefties that claim politics in gaming is good would have an absolute meltdown if a AAA game pushing conservative ideology came out.
Wish they would do it, it would sell like hot cakes !
"Everything is political! Get used to it!"
"Okay, cool, so we're going to make some stuff that represents our conservative political beliefs."
"Noooooooooo not like that! You're only allowed to make stuff that supports *our* beliefs!"
Shit they were mad about wukong having absolutely zero politics. They’re bugged out of their minds.
I'm an elder fella and I find it absolutely hilarious how the people who scream/demand inclusion, are the most gatekeepery people out there.
A lot easier to understand when you realize everything they say is doublespeak.
Same with these wannabe hippies and spiritual people. Most aggressive and mental weak people. They have no idea what a actual free bird is. Extremists are always bad
It's not gatekeeping, it's hate. Gatekeeping is actually a good thing
@@MrGriZar Hate is actually a good thing.
Taash was complaining about her mother and I gave the stoic "deal with it" response. I think it shut off the entire Taash questline.
edit: about 70 hours in, I found out I was wrong. You get barv'ed and they/them'ed no matter what you do. The only way to avoid t is to bypass taash entirely. Locking youself out of content and the best companion for fighting dragons. Easily the most powerful dragon fighter in the game including the player. If the woke stuff annoys you, I wouldnt even bother playing it.
Good
You can tell Taash had a different writer than the other companions. Some of the others are uneven (I'd say Davrin is the only consistently well-written character in that I feel like I'm interacting with a person, though his quest is lame), but Taash's dialogue, trauma dumping, and tantrums are so far removed from the writing of any other companion that I think there was some crybaby in the dev room that they just caved to and let them have their self-insert. It's so bad. I cannot stand interacting with Taash at all; I parked her ass at the Lighthouse and haven't talked to her since.
@@vulgaritar48 At first I liked Taash. Initially she was terse, stoic, and no-nonsense. She seemed like a refreshing change from the other characters who would just dump all their feelings on you in a heartbeat... then they started turning the facet and everything became about their gender identity issues and not the fact they have dragon blood. Poor Rook is probably thinking "I am not a therapist, I am trying to kill what are effectively gods, I do not have time for this melodrama."
@@simoncroft73 Yet you're still using "they" for that travesty...
Her? I thought that was a guy.
I am already turned off with ugly characters and ugly costume design. Then if you managed to tolerate ugly characters and design, then the story is ugly, the dialogue is ugly and the treatment of legacy characters is ugly. There is no reason for me to play the Veilguard other than finding more memes to poke fun on cringe.
The game could be a literal 10/10 but I won't play it if it has that shitty ass off-center camera.
@Cyrops No
I was actually considering whether I would buy this game on a bargain bin sale... And I'm still thinking it would be a waste of my time. The only thing I actually care to experience in this game are the lore threads they actually deliver on, but I can just read about them or watch the story on TH-cam.
Even if the game was only $5, I just can't see myself playing it. If it was some new, generic fantasy IP maybe, but there's no reason to play this game when I could be playing DAO, DAII, or even Inquisition.
I stil don'tunderstand why we even talk about this...
Its a bad game, just say that we don't like it and move on. They aren't invested in the issues or problems only in the atention they can get for it. If you talk about it, even in a bad way you are just giving them what they want: pubiityand victim points...
Jus ignore these instead and let natural selection of video games do its thing, otherwise we are just wasting eachothers time.
@@gaborcsuzi4504Talking about how much it sucks, let’s others know that it sucks; since “official” media reviews are now bought, or ideological, or both and generally untrustworthy now, discussing how it sucks is the only way somone who liked previous DA games will know this is nothing resembling a DA game and instead a big pile of dung.
Discussion lets previous fans not get scammed by the bait and switch and saves increasingly tight money for something worthwhile, instead of finding out through a costly and terrible purchase.
@13:27 Imagine that, DEI, the type of people that want you to not mislabel them, yet they automatically resort to calling you fascist/nazi when you don't follow their beliefs.
I saw the “top surgery” slider in a preview and that was it for me for life. Rest in piss to another dev who ruined games I love
Same, brother. Same with the fable trailer
Game should’ve been removed from sale for that alone.
Because it's not a game, it's propaganda disguised as a game.
Out of all the reasons to hate the game you chose the optional slider?
Not the story, or the weird Mass Effect gameplay... but the optional content that's kinda been a theme of the series since DAO?
@@AssassinGTMfirst impressions are important I guess
Thing is in Origins; you could be negative towards the npc companions and if you do certain things they could either leave, or try and kill you. Your interactions and story choices did affect your game.
Played Origins over 10 Times that game is a masterpicen in both Charakter interaction and world building
This game has the worst companions in gaming history
Fr, i want the option to call Taash slurs and kick her out the party.
The modern audience would be triggered if their companion disagreed with them and left the party.
@@spikey288 would buy 10/10 Game
KoTOR let you be incredibly evil.
I remember meeting a widow who is selling the only memento of her dead husband.
You can force her to give you the memento, force her to give you everything else she has, and force her to be mute.
She just stands there terrified but silent.
Plus Force Choke was literally a conversation option.
You can make Zaalbar literally murder Mission. At the end. So crazy haha
Ahh the good old days of real choices in rpgs
KOTOR and KOTOR 2 are such fire even to this very day.
God i hope the remake will actually be good. I love the old games but a new coat of paint would be amazing.
@ KoTOR2 wasn’t BioWare though.
Have you played Jade Empire? That was the next rpg BioWare made after KoTOR.
It’s like KoTOR and DA:O but set in ancient China.
16:09 "Make Asylums great again"
I tried hard not to laugh in the workplace.......
Taash:"what ever corpse guy"
Emmerich:"listen here women"
that would be gold dialouge
actually old bioware style writing, good old days ;(
Gold dialogue, but more than that the hard truth.
I'd really like if gigantic AAA failures could in future be referred to as "pulling a barve"
That would be funny
It would work because it sounds so similar to ‘barf’
I'm up to spread the meme.
Although I think Concord has the "best" record for financials losses
Does it also include the game director having to post a video doing 10 push-ups?
@@simonvietjohansson8069 maybe a video claiming to to 10 pushups, but only suceeding in doing 5 really bad pushups
"You smell good, real good (growl)" - Made me cringe so much my spine left my body for a vacation.
I cringed and looked away from my screen in embarrassment.
Do you recall the dude at the beginning of Dead Space 2 who rescues Isaac and gets turned into a necromorph in the most visibly painful way? That's how my body reacted to this scene.
I felt like I shit my pants and left my clothes on. Just extremely uncomfortable.
i like your fingers
@Amadourrr But that's actually GOOD cringe. Like, holy shit that guy just turned into a monstrous abomination in front of me while I'm tied up time to RUN.
However the growl scene in dragon age is the cringe that makes you close to throwing up.
In older games, you could miss recruiting a character or choose options so that character gets angry and leaves your party permanently. I wish this worked for Taash...
Both Morrigan and Alistair are iconic companion NPC's from Origins. They are both prime reasons why that RPG garnered such affection. Intricate dialogue options that you really had to think about, both of them superbly voice acted as well.
They also had some of the best banter in the series. They were mean to each other and the Warden didn't give a shit because he or she had more important things on their mind like stopping the archdemon. I can't imagine the Warden scolding them to make nice with each other. Morrigan would've told the Warden where to stick it lol.
Morrigan and Leleana 😋🤤
@@MjollTheLioness-o4yand the warden would have told them a lower plane to go to
@@MjollTheLioness-o4y The Warden can tell them to be nicer, but they'll always argue.
One of my favourite lines isn't intricate at all: "Hey, look at me! I'm an elf! Trees are pretty! Tra-la-la." It comes out of nowhere and just cracked me up.
I was also amused by Alistair disappearing in the Fade in a haze of confusion while yelling, "Hey, what's going on?" just as funny. 😂 But for sure I loved Morrigan and him bantering. Great stuff ❤ And Sten telling some fat kid that he doesn't need anymore cookies 🤣
I hope this game shuts down BioWare. I don't want to even think what they going to do with the next Mass Effect.
Director of Mass Effect 5 is a normal 30ish year old man i'm pretty sure. He said the executive producer, art director, creative director and himself as game director are veterans from the original trilogy. He said this on his twitter:
"Lots of people asking me about Mass Effect now that the Veilguard reviews are out, and oct 31 is close. Both are from the same studio, but Mass Effect is Mass Effect. How you bring a Sci Fi RPG to life is different than other genres or IPs...and has to have different kinds of love."
"Regarding tone questions: Mass Effect will maintain the mature tone of the original Trilogy. This is all I'm gonna say for now."
With this guy on the helm I'm cautiously optimistic about ME5.
@@FrederikSeerupNielsen doubt.
@@FrederikSeerupNielsenstill suspicious for me ngl. Iirc DAV also had a normal director but creative differences made them leave, could happen the same with ME unless this fella is a headstrong and common sense driven individual willing to say no and stay to his principles amidst the super woke current bioware culture
@@FrederikSeerupNielsenAndromeda, Anthem, Veilguard. There seems to be a pattern emerging here. And also…..EA
@@FrederikSeerupNielsenI regret to inform you that he has also hyped up Dragon Age The Veilguard and has said very positive things prior to release even if he was forced to or felt like he had no choice knowing that veilguard developers are working on Mass Effect I dont want anything to do with it
RIP Bio-Ware. I'll remember you for the great games you used to make.
Same as every other AAA dev lol
Don't worry, Mass Effect 5 is going to be a very entertaining crash and burn, and the ME TV show from amazon is being written by Fast & Furious 9 writer, so we can laugh at that too.
I think I can put into words a sentiment most of us are feeling. We don't dislike politics in our entertainment. We dislike propaganda in our entertainment.
It’s a fine line but I most certainly agree with you
Blacklist everyone that gives this game a high rating at release.
Unironically paid actor
Yes but this scam ratings only works ones and you reputation is completely destroyed.
Mortismal lost my respect. For him Veilguard is GOTY claiming all other games in 2024 are underwhelming and Veilguard is the best of all the dragon age games. So much cope
@@monkeyleechkoalannja dude thinks it would bring him money and success, if he bends to corporations.
@@monkeyleechkoalannja I've unsubbed from quite a few formerly based (or at least neutral) content creators who've started to behave more and more like access media the bigger they got. Bellular, Mortismal, Angry Joe, a handful of guys in my country whose names won't tell you anything...
No one deserves loyalty. Not politicians, not actors, not game devs, not content creators. Loyalty is earned and you gotta keep earning it to maintain it. These days I have no qualms whatsoever whenever I'm putting yet another name on my personal blacklist.
About Taash, that's the difference between being woke and not. BG3 contains progressive messaging, but it's not woke (in my eyes) cause it's not preaching to you and it allows you to engage with it however you want. For example, in my first run I staked Astarion, cause he was a vampire trying to bite me in the sleep. That wasn't an evil run, just a rational reaction to what was happening. DA:V would force me to apologize to the gay man for being so stingy with my blood...
That really is just the difference between a story with nuances and a story with none. Woke is a non-factor, the straight stories in DAV are just as bad, blaming it on wokeness is giving the writers too much credit.
@@None38389 This. Failing upward bad writers is what thrashes stories like this, not being woke or not. You can totally do "woke" topics if you want to, but it's going to come off as fake unless you properly integrate it with the world and contextualize it in a realistic way for that world. Cyberpunk has some incredible woke themes in it's transhumanism, but that is because of how trivial the traits are because you can just chrome up and change it. So the dividing lines becomes based on the technology / classes rather than races / sexes.
But that takes some writing chops to do this cohesively. Chops many of these "professional" writers just do not have.
@@None38389 yeah, but I'm talking about that aspect. And it's not secondary, cause it permeates all of the writing, in many productions. We've all experienced in the last years the situation when a "diverse" character was in danger or supposedly evil and we thought "no way that's gonna happen" for no other reason of their identity. Many current writers are not bad and woke, they're bad because of that (self imposed nonsensical rules do not help creativity)
Already disliked this woke shit in Baldurs Gate 3. Way too many NPC's talk about "their husband" whilst being male. It is disgusting!
From what I've seen, the only thing I would consider 'woke' from BG3 is the character creator with the made up genders and pronoun options, which was sneaky since those options weren't in the beta/early access of BG3, they were inserted into the full release so no one could criticize Larian Studios before it was too late.
Reddit... There's never been a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
Hope Elon buys them next.
They deleted my comment because no resources on one of political subbreddit just to lift it after 2 days before I put the reference. Those people that counterargument me doesn't have references to what they're saying. Truly a reddit moment lol
Next to resetera and the old woke Neogaf. And now the place the resetera people fled too "famiboards" (looks nicer at first glance, but its the same shitty ideology inside with massive censorship. Its like communist bubbles.
@@Ironknuckle100 I thought it was funny when he bought twitter and everyone was saying they wouldn't use it. lol okay
There is no better representation of modern society's failures than Reddit.
The writers of this game are the kind of ppl that like to speak their mind openly but leave comments off or block ppl before they can reply
Reminder, steam hid negative reviews and said this was "overwhelmingly positive"
Edit: its bioware that controls comments but steam allows them and all devs to do the same, so sorta their fault but more blame on devs for wasting your money
They always do. The meta critic player reviews is about the only fair one
@@shawntame45 Meta critic doesn't verify that you have the game you claim to have. Tell me your favorite piece of media and what should I write about it, and I will score it with the lowest score I can. Lets see how long it last.
@shawntame45 yeah I only reference user score when making a purchase now.
@Braiam you can be mad amd claim it's review bombing if you like I really could care less. It's not me or you who decides it's the community. And the community told you in it's reviews and it's player counts. You can choose to ignore that if you want. You do you boo
@tpproject8845 it's the safest bet. Wait till after release and check them out. Too many devs been getting away with shit games to keep just blindly buying them
Thats something I have always hated about reddit... how subreddits can just automatically ban you just for following someone or simply being vaguely associated with another subreddit they dont like...
i mean, mods on reddit love screeching about how trump is a dictator but i think its just because they desperately wish THEY were the ones dictating.
It is a left wing liberal echo chamber. Look at the meltdown the whole app had when trump won. One of the post was about a mentally disturbed woman who deleted herself after election results. The amount of mental illness in America needs to be studied because how can people behave like this if their party didn't win.
Reddit is 💀 to me honestly since Ellen pao took over like years ago. TH-cam comments section has been based, but the censorship here is off the charts.
@@collenjets123oh yeah for sure, they are dictators they just have no power. Look how they act as a mod lol.
And the mods usually don’t even need a reason to mass ban people.
A free speech Warhammer 40k subreddit (r/Horusgalaxy) got targeted by at least half of the other Warhammer subreddits due to a mod having a mental breakdown and blaming the entire subreddit and they jumped on it no question.
When the HG mods asked them what happened it was either an on the spot lie or spastic rambling that bears no proof. (it was a few months ago I might not remember the whole thing correctly)
- "thats why we recruited them"
- "how many did you recruit?"
- "one soldier"
- "why do you use plural then?! I thought we got a bunch of people!"
- "yeah.... about that"
Reminds me of the comedian who joked about buying a shit tonne of food because his friend said that "they are coming".
@@liamwilliams6651 Now you tell them, they are gonna eat all this fucking food.... 😂
"And then you throw Kurt Angle in the Mix and your chances of winning drastically go down. See the Three-Way at Sacrifice, you got a 33% 1/3rd chance of winning, but I, I got a 66% and 2/3rds chance of winning, because Kurt Angle knows he can't beat me so he's not even gonna try! So Samoa Joe, you take your 33% 1/3rd chance, minus my 25% chance and you got an 8% 1/3rd chance of winning at Sacrifice. But then you take my 75% chance of winning, if we was to go one on one, and then add 66% 2/3, I got 141% 2/3 chance of winning at Sacrifice."
"See Joe, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you at Sacrifice."
Did they seriously just take *the* argument as to why the use of plural chosen pronouns is linguistically problematic and used it in an attempt to normalize their use? 😂
@@TheNheg66 just call these people IT
You DO have to talk to any trans person as if theyre a child. Its not just an unflattering depiction in this game. Its reality. You cant even tell them that men cant give birth without them calling YOU a science denier. You try way too hard not to offend these people bro. They demand that you deny reality for the sake of their feelings. Its ludicrously insulting to the intelligence of mentally sound individuals.
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You know, I realized that it didnt used to be this way, with gamers genuinely hoping games would fail. At the most, you'd be apathetic or just disappointed, but you wouldn't have people actively searching for a games dwindling player numbers and laughing at it.
This is the result of choosing "morals" over a games actual audience. Its become truly toxic and they have no one to blame but themselves.
Glad I cancelled my Pre-order. It's truly nice knowing I didn't throw $70 away.
It is always best to avoid pre-orders really. Never worth it these days to pre-order a game, even if it looks good up until the last second of release. Pre-order bonuses are rarely worth the high risk of 60-70 dollar loss really.
Same I ended up just getting cod
The fact that you were willing to pre order says you deserved to lose your money
I could already tell how bad it's going to be just from the title design.
If you still have that $70 and want a good RPG, the English version of Ys X: Nordics just came out and is available on GOG.
Anyone remember when Bioware put in options to be as evil as you want? My first KOTOR1 run through as a kid I was arc lightning-ing wookies and using the Jedi mind trick to convince them to jump into a pit.
Feels like Larian stole their niche in the market and they are totally out of ideas.
I remember when you could use blood magic in origins to kill your companions
it's not just Larian, Owlcat made Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous where your MC is not just good/neutral/evil path but also your MC can become a lich with an undead army or become a bundle of insects with a swarm.
Bioware is not the old Bioware that made DA : Origins
The fact that I’ve only ever heard of these games is because on asmongold covering them speaks volumes
Dragon age origins - Until the Grey Wardens came. Men and women from every race, warriors and mages, barbarians and kings, the Grey Wardens sacrificed everything to stem the tide of darkness, and prevailed. It has been four centuries since that victory, and we have kept our vigil. We have watched and waited for the darkspawn to return. But those, who once called us heroes, have forgotten. We are few now, and our warnings have been ignored for too long. It may even be too late, for I have seen with my own eyes what lies upon the horizon. Maker help us all.
Dragon age veilguard- So...I'm non binary.
In theatrical performances, there's a thing called "aside", it's when a character breaks away from the act and speaks to the audience.
Some of these scenes, like the whole "how to apologize properly" lecture, feels like the writers were pulling an aside.
This whole piece of software falsely labeled Dragon Age feels like it was pulling an ass-side
happened in Starfield too
There is aside. Then there is badly written where you have no side to aside from. If you brake away from the act, and you can not tell that the act is broken? Then no. There is no aside.
4th wall brake. That is what it is called in movies/comics etc. Deadpool being a character that you expect to brake constantly, yet stays ALWAYS in character.
Have watched literally propaganda that is many tiers better... If even propaganda of cartoons can avoid asides and 4th wall brakes? Excuse me. This is all a excuse of bad writing.
There was no attempts at aside. There was no attempts at all. All the dialog is writing in a modern form, for a medieval magic themed game. Nope.
Der Fuehrer's Face. Donald duck cartoon. Watch it every Christmas. (Swedish TV tradition)
@@RadCommieGamer "Taash approves."
@@TheDiner50 I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. My point is that it feels like monologues to educate the audience rather than a natural dialog between the characters, something I wouldn't expect in a game.
13:08 fun fact, that was my comment and the mods deleted it for Bigotry when asmon reviewed this on his stream. Thanks for ratting me out man xD
So no, the mods haven't given up on making the subreddit an echo chamber
Probably because you called Taash a her in your post. Naturally that is WAY more important than shining a light on the blatant hypocrisy in the game.
@@dasisif He should've done some push ups to make up for it.
Based human
My comment was the one where I pointed out that their name gets autocorrected to Trash and it's still up! 250+ upvotes and slowly climbing as people find it(because the post it was on got closed)
not really a fun fact at all to be honest
Taash is basically the game director.
Morrigan wasn't just hot or “sexualized,” she was a wise, cunning, badass and strong woman. For me personally, this is an ideal, perfection. And such women exist in real life. When I met one, I was never able to love any other woman again. The Origins developers managed to create an outstanding and realistic character in a dark fantasy rpg, and what do we have in Vailguard? Just a random aunty, nothing special.
And even though she was so badass and cunning she had genuine flaws, and it also made it twice as funny when other characters out-banter her.
@raics101 yeah, 'cause there are no humans without flaws. So a fictional character must have them too.
Leftists lost their ability to write good characters about the same time they lost their grip on reality.
I just want my RPG heroes to have fewer defects than me. It’s not much to ask, I don’t think.
I can't even keep her in my party because she disapproves of pretty much all my choices, but I understand why she's the way she is and I was able to befriend and appreciate her despite our differences.That's how you write a good character.
Dragon Age: The Failguard: We have a bunch of DEI characters.
Space Marine 2: We have Chapter Master Marneus Calgar.
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY THRONES!
Blood for the blood god
Hydra Dominatus
Leandros in the distance: “don’t forget about meee”
VULCAN LIVES *STOMP STOMP*
Reminder that in Baldur's Gate 3 you can kill pretty much everyone you want. Literally can shove a companion off a ship right after you are introduced to her and they are gone forever.
I've said it before that the game is less of a Fantasy game, more of an Educational game where the player is treated like a dumb student.
What point does BG3 letting you kill off companions has to do with anything? I mean most Rpgs don't let you kill off friendly characters.
@@luxnoria It gives you the freedom to not deal with characters that rub you in the wrong way.
@@Sombriage You know what else gives you freedom from that? Not playing the game. Lol.
@@luxnoriaBG3 is also considered a woke game but the wokeness is so well done that you can skip it's not shoved in your face like veilguard
The new Dragon Age game is like Linkin Park with the new vocalist: a totally different product, but with a familiar name.
I was gonna wait for a sale but after that awkward dinner scene, I removed it from my wishlist. 100% pass. I'll stick to Origins
28:30 AS an Asian living in Asia I'm so happy to hear Asmon is trying to play more Asian games.
I am a little older than Asmon. I play both Japanese games and Western games when I was a kid, C&C, Red Alert, Starcraft, Diablo II, AoE II, Half-Life etc. They were soooo great. Nowadays a lot of Western games have become a platform for forcing identity politics, which is really sad.
But most of the Eastern games are still intact, in fact, a lot of Japanese game companies are even emphasizing they are "return to the root of JRPG (王道)" to gain old gamers back. That's why we are getting more and more 2000's-like vibe games from Japan. Hope one day the West can do the same and bring their glory days back.
It's been decades, and Japanese devs still can't into games. 60 FPS locks, clunky UIs, poor optimisation. Every time I pick up a Japanese game, I struggle with the most stupid things that don't have a single reason to be an issue.
How do they even make their games if, judging by their UIs, mice and keyboards don't exist in Japan
sadly in my experience (and thois might not apply to all but i have seen it several times now) many asian games have a habit of forcing players to play the Meta to even be able to complete the story of the game. MMOs especially are the worst case of it :/ wich really sucks cause the games had some absolutely fantastic ideas
Hahahahahhahaha good luck with nintendo killing all stuff thats better than them like "palworld"
Soyny,moving to california.
And the ONU saying that anime its "problematic" hahahahahaha lets see how long your hopes last.
There are some great indie and small devs working now. The OG Elder Scrolls devs are working on a new RPG, and indie horror is still doing great.
Israel is in Asia, like Qatar, Bangladesh, Iran, Azerbaijan, Afghanistan, Cyprus...
1 week after launch, lost already 25% of it playerbase. Huge success!
Not inspiring considering games like this take most people more than a week to play. As they have life, work, commitments etc.
@@jonny-b4954 You're correct; it's a single player game, and not an MMO or something, meaning people will stop playing it sooner.
Now consider the fact that Black Myth Wukong still has more people playing it than Dragon Age Veilguard currently does, despite having come out three months ago.
25% ? They've lost 43% of the launch peak players in 5 days.
@@latt.qcd9221I'm betting they quit because of the cringe dialog. I would too
To be fair, it could be that they finished the game
11:45 They unironically put an ACKCHYUALLY meme into the video game lmaaooo. 😭😂
I don't remember where I saw this at.
But someone said
"Dragon Age Origin was a dark fantasy. Dragon Age Veilguard is a Marvel Film"
A post Endgame Marvel film...
@@jessicaavery1080 A Post-Endgame Marvel TV series.
It wasn't a dark fantasy since any of its sequels and if you're still expecting it, it's kinda on you.
@@TheorycrafterTV That's why I only mention Origins
I previous Bioware games, you COULD kill potential teammates through quest interactions, broken relationships and growing animosity.
In ME 1 you had to have high Paragon, high Renegade, or completed Wrex's personal quest by the time you got to the Krogan Facility story mission if you wanted to keep him alive. A character that was important in both ME 2 and ME 3 could have died in ME 1 if you didn't have the pre-requisites completed so you could choose to save him. Even then you still made the choice.
@@gadman85 In BG1 and BG2 you could kill anyone and everyone pretty much lol. Bioware isn't that company anymore though, none of the original people are left. It's just EA parading around Bioware's corpse at this point with no one who worked on any of the good games still working there.
Ah the Darkside run in kotor was heartbreaking in some parts. Having Zaalbar kill Mission to prove his life debt was rough. Its one of the few times Ive felt bad making a choice in a game.
"The character is an asshole unnecessarily to innocent people"
Turns out that if you are merciful upon the cruel, you will end up by being cruel to the merciful.
I have a sudden urge to delve into Warhammer now
“We want others to respect us”, the DEI initiative people said while blatantly disrespecting everyone else
Time for EA to do what they do best, shut down Bioware. We really don't need them damaging the Mass Effect IP anymore.
remember: they bannned ANYONE in the subreddit for even thinking about talking bad about the game, and banned you even though you were excited to try it.
They do that in Asmongold's sub as well. I got banned for saying Deadlock was a sweet baby Inc game.
Typical reddit mods. It's a bad place.
thats reddit. im banned from so many subreddits i doubt it matters. even the ones where ppl say "they arent woke" u would be surprised
tbf I've checked several times, I'm not banned from any of the reddits that have been mentioned so far in this drama... so its definitely not an autoban thing.
BioWare could not release KotOR in this day and age. There’s no way they’d let you chose Jedi or Sith as your path.
They also just couldn’t make it today. All the chefs and staff have left. Their lesser replacements lost most of the recipes and have no creativity. This is a (sinking) Ship of Theseus situation, and they are BioWare in name only. Nothing they’re cooking is edible let alone great and memorable.
glad the kotor remake was cancelled they would've butchered it
''There’s no way they’d let you chose Jedi or Sith as your path.''
Yeah you would be a non binary force user, since you dont want to be part of a group.
Then creating 10 groups. Also sith cant be evil, all are just good people who did some wrong things.
@@Feja2503 LOL a nonbinary force user who sets out to find her dad or something im sure thats what would they go with
Force-binary
My little brother who isn't political at all or cares about woke/anti woke stuff he said it wasn't worth the money and don't bother.
I am a woman in my early 20s and I despise it when previously attractive characters get dumbed down to 0 attractiveness. Seggsualizing women in video games is NOT what's dehumanizing, portraying women as something that should not be seggsualized is what's actually dehumanizing. I love being able to look at a character, man or woman, and go "They're very attractive". Making your audience feel like deviants for being attracted to a character you once made to be attractive is insulting to the fans and the franchise.
For the love of god, write normally, please. It's TH-cam, not TikTok. You won't get banned for saying "Sexualizing".
Very interesting you point this out because one thing I noticed with some of these games that pander to the left wing identity politics, is that these games make characters look completely gender neutral. None of the features that you see on the characters in dragon age allow you to clearly distinguish if this is a male or a female. It is like the game THE FINALS, where every character looks borderline female. And the thing is, sure idc whatever.. But like when you don't have options to make your character look a certain way, then it becomes just weird and bad...
@@GNatanel its to circumvent the censorship algorithm that randomly removes some people’s comments for certain word combinations or shadowbans them, how do you not know that by now?
i don't get it. why do people always use "sexualized" as a synonyme to "attractive"? you can have attractive female characters without sexualizing them. shadowheart in bg3 is also attractive without being sexualized. and i find it annoying when i see that a character is only sexualized bc of fan service and not bc it fits the character. to me that's immersion breaking.
japan makes attractive characters but interesting and consistent too. Like Bulma in Dragon Ball
They demand blind positivity and complete loyalty to "the message" of identity politics.
But their not a Cult!
LOL! Great framing on that.
If you look at marketing strategy, it’s exactly that. Brand loyalty, dedicated fans, etc.
All cult techniques being used to sell digital slop.
Apparently if you do something to Torres in the game she will eventually oof herself hypnotic on last Saturday's live broadcast with his friends found out about that and apparently if she does oof herself you get a game over which doesn't make sense so they made it to where you have to have that character or you can't play the game
DAV is actually a brilliant allegory for Transgenderism. It is something trying to be what it isn't, it wears the skin of what it is trying to be, but everyone looks at it and can see very clearly that it isn't that thing.
This exactly
@@fishy7901 well said
Nice!
Perfectly said.
So it Veilguard Identifies as a Dragon Age game.
I feel like if anyone has a mental meltdown over a presidential candidate you shouldn't be working at a video game Studio. There should be prerequisite like if there's a political events or or like an election they should not be allowed to post any tweets that make the person in question and the studio in a bad light.
So, 99% of the population?
@@toniyakovlev4403 american one maybe
Bioware should change their name to Beware to reflect their modern dev team.
Biowaste is more appropriate.
"Dangerhair"
Non-bewarenary
0:24 The perfect timing of the ad of a man packing his luggages to leave 😂😂
this dei crap being called out for its bs like falsely translating femboys to trans in that mange is exactly why Crunchyroll shut off its comment section.
Dude that pissed me off so much, I loved going to the comments on Crunchyroll 😂
terroist propaganda is done and this will soon be over period. none of the old ideology's can be allowed to exist. the left being in exitance is the problem.
There's many reasons I wouldn't pay into Crunchyroll these days - their business practices, them stealing fan mail sent to their voice actors etc.
But still the main reason is that I can't trust their translations. And, I don't understand why anyone pays for it when we know the translations aren't truthful?
Imagine having a "Dead Naming Quest" for Taash where you figure out his name at birth so you can use that and it would be an "evil" option.
I mean, considering how people flipped out about RDR2 where you can lasso feminist protesters and do all kinds of shenanigans, I doubt that would go over very well
@@carlwinslow8165and this is going over very well?
i'd actually buy the game specifically to deadname taash
@@wontonschannel The Trash Taash DLC
@@carlwinslow8165 I thought that was hilarious.
>Xenoverse 2: 10mil copies sold
>Non-binary game: 0.5mil copies sold
Don't think DAV was sold half a mill copies 😂
you misspelled non-buynary
@@MrHehaaw He didn't count refunds, as they're still grow in numbers.
@@СергейМалышев-ю8щ Steam alone only sold like 80k at most, if we counted that as a third of total sale then the total sale was only like 240k copies. At most they would probably only sold 300k, not even half million lol.
And many DAV were refunded with GameStop refusing trade ins because of overstock
One of the best features of Cyberpunk is the ability to ignore whatever quest you are on to go do some random other event. BG3 as well. If I don't like a character, I never have to see them in game. All games of this nature should take notes.
0:15 remember that this number is already achieved by TAINTING a huge franchise with large player base, and they still fail massively 😂
Without the DA name, this would just be another Kotaku-tier trans-rpg that 12 people play (6 of which didn’t live long enough to review it -ACK)
This is anti-woke nonsense. The game is doing demonstrably fine. You can look up data yourself without cherry-picking times when many players are at work.
@@schplengie1 Still only has sold barely 1 million copies. It hasn't even made its budget back and people are shitting on it left and right. That means it's a failure.
For me the canary in the mine was the first gameplay trailer. When their level 1 rouge used magic, even though magic in lore is born and not learned. Even those born with magic sometimes hurt themselves while learning control. We see this in DAO mage origin.
True. Combat is flashy yeah, but rogues and warriors aren’t supposed to be magical superheroes. It’s just a fail on all fronts
What do you expect from people who think canon doesn't matter, unless a character is gay or Black. Then canon is absolute lol.
Holyfuck. I gagged on the trash refer as them scene.
I'm just gonna let autocorrect do it things.
some people say you could just play and ignore the dialogue, duh, its like saying dont critic it or dont tell the truth. Is it wrong if you gave value to dialogue its like a break time in the game yet youll going to be stressed for everything youll read or heard.
people think others are nitpicking a scene or two but I knew the moment I saw the first one presented there had to be at least two dozen more identical scenes just waiting to be posted for the internet at large to mock for Dragqueen Age : The Therapyguard
Ironically, Dragon Age: Inquisition had Dorian, who did have to face issues from his father because he is gay, but it was well written and executed. Nothing was pushed onto you and it felt sincere.
Wrong. It was pushed. People just weren't aware they were being manipulated yet. Now we can smell woke propaganda a mile away.
Honestly was probably one of the best characters in that game too
Actually inclusive writing that didn't over power the rest of the game
@weye-c3c I hated him too but it wasn't forced into my face that I had to cater to him or whatever so still enjoyed the rest of the game
Wasn't there one character who was a women but everyone thought she was a man cause she wanted to be like her dad and Wasn't a huge ass about it when asked?
"And so is the golden city blackened
With each step you take in my hall.
Marvel at perfection, for it is fleeting.
You have brought Sin to Heaven
And doom upon all the world."
-Canticle of Threnodies 8;13
How fitting!
Veilguard is that one fanfiction written by a 14yr old on wattpad where every sentences has emojis at the end and interactions are too cringe to not be uncomfortable, where the plot is all over the place, where everyone must be a love interest and is into the mc, and where every character bar none are out of character and barely recognisable from the base material.
People confuse "gameplay" with "combat", in role play or narrative focus games like Bioware's, stories and characters are part of the "gameplay"
I agree with you. Gameplay does not mean just combat. Stories and characters were done in a way that resembles what a game is. I still don't think people know what a game is. There used to be a genre called "Game Book". It died off and not a lot of people know of it. I read a couple of "Game Book" types years ago. Understand what the no longer exist "Game Book" genre is and play Dragon Age 1 and one will understand what makes Dragon Age Origin good. Too many people have too straightforward thinking and likes to play the blame game. Sigh....
I did say I would be surprised if they sold even 1 million copies. Seeing as they need atleast around 4 million sold to make a profit, bioware is suffering alot right now.
It’s worse than that. This isn’t a blip. It’s a pattern of failed games, meaning they were hoping to recoup ALL loses with this title.
This was meant to be their Black Friday sale.
@Kyryyn_Lyyh Shadow realms, Andromeda, Anthem and now Veilgaurd. Anthem was the only one that had a shot of succeeding, but they lacked the ability to fulfill their promises and instead tried to lie like they did with veilgaurd to ensure profits. But people are quick to forgive bioware, and forget the past crap they tried to pull, simply because they loved of dragon age origins, and the mass effect trilogy. People don't want to admit to themselves that the current bioware is not the company that they loved, but one that would love if those games never existed.
Bioware has 3 strikes, Failguard, Anthem, Andromeda.
Failguard, Failthem and Failmeda
Andromeda wasn’t that bad sure the faces were pretty ugly the game was decent but it’s not a good mass effect game tbh
Anthem....fk....i really like the idea but....oh well
Andromeda and Anthem aren't even bad compared to this trash.
they already shut down bioware montreal after andromeda, so bioware "proper" has 2 strikes
if mass effect 5 sucks i hope it's their last game they ever make lol
A friend of mine was telling me lore drops that the game had and he prefaced every one with "whoo boy this is gonna piss you off" because they obviously just care about their story and none of the others in the franchise
Churchill wrote perfectly that civilization is been rebuild on the basis of envious malevolence and impossible equality.
@@pepebongo You don't like that I brought this up and you cant prove it wrong, so you make a nonsensical personal attack against me. That is all you got. You are the one being cringe.
Churchill was also a terrible person and not a role model outside of WW2
@@YOGI-kb9tg @marcusgarvey9933 Churchill literally committed genocide against millions of East Indians and called for the genocide of all Hindus, but that’s never mentioned.
Churchill pretty much sold Europe to the Juice and that is a huge part of why the world is the way it is today.
@@YOGI-kb9tgHe was also an alcoholic, while “moustache man” was an avid vegan and an animal lover, he literally was the first person in German history to create laws that protected animals.
As always, people with 0 foresight like you fail to notice the obvious. You should NEVER judge a person work based on what he does in his personal life. Churchill was a great PM and knew how important it was to drift the ethics of the British society in order to preserve integrity.
He being an alcoholic, smoker, beating his wife and so on. Has NOTHING to do with his political work and the quality of the policies he selected to follow.