We have an AIO and can tell when there has been a power cut! Our super sensitive cooker clock will be flashing. Nothing else is affected, we can be watching TV with the lights on and don't even notice the switch-over. Had a couple this winter, brief but glad to have the GIvEnergy running when it tripped for a few hours.
Could you do a video on Hybrid inverter and manual EPS. My original installer said I could only get an emergency double socket, not run the whole house!?!
The AIO is brilliant (if the battery was bigger !) I only know there was a powercut when I got a text to say it was back on. Was originally looking at exactly what you have but the AIO (better output & EPS) at the same price was the way to go. Now if they could only get extension batteries at a sensible cost
@@FFVoyager Yes but at £7k a pop no smaller units. 13kWh or nothing. Not to mention pretty new and probably a bear to install. Not sure it is out of Beta yet. If they had had it working when i got system 18mths ago I would probably have bought 2 but loads of hassle getting the single AIO working so worried about opening a bag of worms.
I also have an AIO and a GW, installed just before Christmas. Had 2 brief power cuts since then and there was no automatic switch over of the battery to the house load. In fact the AIO breakers in the GW had tripped out, switching the AIO off. GE told my installer that the trip current in the 30 mA RCBO was likely exceeded and to replace it with a 100 mA RCBO. My installer has found that the 100 mA RCBO suggested and approved by GE has a lead time of 6-7 weeks. GE have now approved an alternative and my installer is trying to source it. Time will tell if it fixes the problem!
Using our GivEnergy G3 inverter: On our EPS we have two mains rings, including the IOT and internet, all the lights, the heating (it’s gas) but no heavy loads. So no kitchen content except the fridge freezer. As long as you stay sensible with load (below 20Amps) the EPS output works really well. Since installing it we’ve had a few cuts that we were told about by neighbours after the event.
Our last power cut in West Wales went on for several days. With an oil fired combi boiler and using a gas cylinder for cooking you could last weeks with a large back up battery. This does make you realize that with an all electric household you would be far less resilient especially in a cold winter.
@@ElectricVehicleMan Hi. No - a boiler pump needs around 50 watts - the oil provides most of the energy to run the heating and hot water- the tank in my garden currently contains 1000 litres ( enough for a year's usage). A 20 kwh battery would last for at least a week assuming it is full when the power cut starts and if you don't use any other high drain electrical devices during the power cut.
@@geoffhanbury4978 Well It is the same as you’re reliant on electric and oil. If anything only been reliant on electric makes it less vulnerable. After all, what if oil deliveries stop. That’s unlikely, but so is days without electric. In the UK, neither are an actual concern.
I have the same set up as you. 3.6kW Gen 3 inverter and 2 - 9.5kWh batteries. I have a manual EPS fitted with an earth rod. It’s limited to 20A! It will run the home - without the ASHP or heated floor - both draw too much power for the EPS. However this was not an issue during a 2hr outage in summer. Winter would be a different matter completely.
Canni ask how you manage to charge so much battery storage with only a 3.6 inverter please I’ve got 14kwh of batteries and it’s touch and go to fill them in 5 hrs (0-30 To 05-00)
I have one of your batteries. Its been dead since Sunday morning (19th January 2025) its now Thursday 23rd January 2025, nobody at Givenergy seems interested in helping me get it working again, this is the 5th time in just over a year your product has gone into a fault mode & switched off. This time I have currently been waiting for 5 days to have it operational again, you talk of using your product in the event of a power cut, in order for this to happen your product needs to actually be working.
If I was 20 years younger then I would have something like this in a heartbeat. At my time of life, I am unlikely to recoup the costs and could not afford it.
I'm in my late 70's. I had the AIO installed a year ago. I understand the affordability angle, but not the " when will I recoup the costs ". There seems to ba an agenda to question solar / home battery / electric vehicles in regards to how it performs as an investement. The same ctiteria aren't applied to a new IC car, new gas boiler etc.
I have an All in One. I had my own personal power cut a couple of weeks ago. The Gateway had tripped and I had to turn it back on. I emailed Givenegy support to ask why this had happened. Two weeks later I am still waiting for a reply.
I feel you skipped through the coverage of non Gateway EPS arrangements. A voice-over a few simple EPS block diagrams on screen would help non techies to understand the type of alternatives possible. You and Harry spent a lot of time discussing the Gateway.
An idea. As more and more EVs have V2L, why not allow it to plug into and charge a home battery when the solar/local grid cannot do its usual charging?. That'll give time for them to make cheaper V2G equipment
It would be better if Givenergy focused on fixing their current AIOs instead of releasing new products that probably won't work as advertised. I'm done with Givenergy. Also, customer service is nonexistent. 😠
Good overview ! got an AIO myself and I wish there was an alert / notification from it when there is a power cut. Please add this function 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I agree, please add this function.
We have an AIO and can tell when there has been a power cut!
Our super sensitive cooker clock will be flashing. Nothing else is affected, we can be watching TV with the lights on and don't even notice the switch-over.
Had a couple this winter, brief but glad to have the GIvEnergy running when it tripped for a few hours.
Could you do a video on Hybrid inverter and manual EPS. My original installer said I could only get an emergency double socket, not run the whole house!?!
The AIO is brilliant (if the battery was bigger !) I only know there was a powercut when I got a text to say it was back on.
Was originally looking at exactly what you have but the AIO (better output & EPS) at the same price was the way to go.
Now if they could only get extension batteries at a sensible cost
I think the AIO can have up to 6 units in parallel if you want more capacity.
@@FFVoyager Yes but at £7k a pop no smaller units. 13kWh or nothing. Not to mention pretty new and probably a bear to install. Not sure it is out of Beta yet. If they had had it working when i got system 18mths ago I would probably have bought 2 but loads of hassle getting the single AIO working so worried about opening a bag of worms.
@ians3328 TradeSparky have them for £5296 currently.
@@FFVoyagerand 6kW (7kW peak) might be enough - an additional battery doesn’t necessarily need more inverter
I also have an AIO and a GW, installed just before Christmas. Had 2 brief power cuts since then and there was no automatic switch over of the battery to the house load. In fact the AIO breakers in the GW had tripped out, switching the AIO off. GE told my installer that the trip current in the 30 mA RCBO was likely exceeded and to replace it with a 100 mA RCBO. My installer has found that the 100 mA RCBO suggested and approved by GE has a lead time of 6-7 weeks. GE have now approved an alternative and my installer is trying to source it. Time will tell if it fixes the problem!
Same issue here. Trying to figure it out - possibly the earth is the issue...
Having the ability to have this as an option on none-All in One systems would be beneficial
An EPS is an option.
@@ElectricVehicleMan but a full gateway alongside an AC coupled set would be good…
Using our GivEnergy G3 inverter: On our EPS we have two mains rings, including the IOT and internet, all the lights, the heating (it’s gas) but no heavy loads. So no kitchen content except the fridge freezer.
As long as you stay sensible with load (below 20Amps) the EPS output works really well.
Since installing it we’ve had a few cuts that we were told about by neighbours after the event.
Our last power cut in West Wales went on for several days. With an oil fired combi boiler and using a gas cylinder for cooking you could last weeks with a large back up battery. This does make you realize that with an all electric household you would be far less resilient especially in a cold winter.
Boilers need electric too so it’s the same.
@@ElectricVehicleMan Hi. No - a boiler pump needs around 50 watts - the oil provides most of the energy to run the heating and hot water- the tank in my garden currently contains 1000 litres ( enough for a year's usage). A 20 kwh battery would last for at least a week assuming it is full when the power cut starts and if you don't use any other high drain electrical devices during the power cut.
@@geoffhanbury4978 Well
It is the same as you’re reliant on electric and oil. If anything only been reliant on electric makes it less vulnerable.
After all, what if oil deliveries stop.
That’s unlikely, but so is days without electric.
In the UK, neither are an actual concern.
Yeah I’d consider a log burner as a backup if I was switching over from gas to heat pump.
I have the same set up as you. 3.6kW Gen 3 inverter and 2 - 9.5kWh batteries.
I have a manual EPS fitted with an earth rod. It’s limited to 20A! It will run the home - without the ASHP or heated floor - both draw too much power for the EPS. However this was not an issue during a 2hr outage in summer. Winter would be a different matter completely.
My HP maxes out at 2.6kW and I’ve never seen that so I guess it depends on the HP size.
Canni ask how you manage to charge so much battery storage with only a 3.6 inverter please
I’ve got 14kwh of batteries and it’s touch and go to fill them in 5 hrs (0-30 To 05-00)
I have a 6 hour tariff.
I have one of your batteries. Its been dead since Sunday morning (19th January 2025) its now Thursday 23rd January 2025, nobody at Givenergy seems interested in helping me get it working again, this is the 5th time in just over a year your product has gone into a fault mode & switched off. This time I have currently been waiting for 5 days to have it operational again, you talk of using your product in the event of a power cut, in order for this to happen your product needs to actually be working.
If I was 20 years younger then I would have something like this in a heartbeat. At my time of life, I am unlikely to recoup the costs and could not afford it.
I'm in my late 70's. I had the AIO installed a year ago. I understand the affordability angle, but not the " when will I recoup the costs ". There seems to ba an agenda to question solar / home battery / electric vehicles in regards to how it performs as an investement. The same ctiteria aren't applied to a new IC car, new gas boiler etc.
I have an All in One. I had my own personal power cut a couple of weeks ago. The Gateway had tripped and I had to turn it back on. I emailed Givenegy support to ask why this had happened. Two weeks later I am still waiting for a reply.
I feel you skipped through the coverage of non Gateway EPS arrangements. A voice-over a few simple EPS block diagrams on screen would help non techies to understand the type of alternatives possible. You and Harry spent a lot of time discussing the Gateway.
An idea. As more and more EVs have V2L, why not allow it to plug into and charge a home battery when the solar/local grid cannot do its usual charging?. That'll give time for them to make cheaper V2G equipment
It would be better if Givenergy focused on fixing their current AIOs instead of releasing new products that probably won't work as advertised. I'm done with Givenergy. Also, customer service is nonexistent. 😠