My 2018 Max Platinum Expedition with max tow wasn't cheap, but man does it kick ass. My previous truck was a Yukon with the 6.2L V8. There's just no comparison. The 3.5 ecoboost could fly up mountain passes at whatever speed I want, unlike the GMC which really struggled at elevation.
I had a ecoboost in a f150 but traded for a gladiator, man do I miss that motor. Talked my wife in trading her explorer for this expedition for towing a camper, can’t wait.
@@markgosser9578 Which engine did you get in the Gladiator? We really liked the EcoDiesel in the model we reviewed recently... but the EcoBoost Expedition is indeed a freight train of a towing platform. Enjoy!
The key to anything is properly equipped. Just thought I'd comment. I'm at the complete opposite of the spectrum. I travel a lot for work and drive a Ford Ecosport with 1.0L 3cyl Ecoboost. I tow with it. I'm capable of light towing. I pull a small 4x6 enclosed cargo trailer with it. Serves my purpose as a luggage trailer and for work tools and personal gear.
Absolutely. The bigger the enclosed trailer, the more "sail in the wind" effect you have and thus, more care you have to follow when choosing a tow vehicle.
Great report, I have a new 2020 Max, non-heavy duty tow. 3.31 gear.Dealer added in dash electric brake control. I bought to tow TT up to 6600lbs. No HD tow, price point was not doable. Thanks for this video.
Thanks! Hope the new Max works out for you - even with the 3.31 gearing, the EcoBoost and 10-speed work really well to get things moving and keep them moving. Should be a great truck for you and the Max was the right choice with longer wheelbase.
@@OutMotorsports Transmission cooler, upgraded radiator, limited slip differential, integrated brake controller, pro trailer assist and higher tow capacity. If you are 100 lbs below the tow capacity and you are sitting in the vehicle, you are immediately over the tow rating. You have to factor in the weight of the contents of the vehicle.
Great review, I'm looking into the trading my truck in for a family truckster, and the 21 Expedition w/ Max tow is in my radar, especially for towing my race trailer. Overall handles the load ok? Thanks and be safe.
Glad you enjoyed! Really hard to beat the EcoBoost for towing, it is just so effortless. If your trailer is like ours (enclosed) we'd recommend the Expedition Max for its longer wheelbase. Should help with stability a bit. We had weight distribution but no sway control for this test.
Probably, but watch your weight of stuff in the trailer AND the payload inside the Expedition. Check the doorjamb sticker to see what's allowed, subtract your 580-600 lbs of tongue weight from that number, that's what you can have inside for people and things. And please please PLEASE use a weight distributing hitch. Set up right it should be fine, set up poorly and you will not have much fun. If you need a hitch this is a good one: amzn.to/3q5cWu6 The WDH is purchased according to trailer weight so you do not want an 8k hitch if your trailer weight is 6k, for example. They sell the TrackPro in various capacities.
Is it more realistic to found a used Ford Expedition like 2002-2018 I have a 3500 pound trailer for homeowners needs but need a family vehicle without a car loan Have a older fl50 single cab I love but outgrown
Any Expedition will tow a 3,500 pound trailer pretty easily. You'll be looking at a variety of engines and transmissions through those model years; generally the newer the better. All have some weak points but they are common, well known, and easily fixed by any competent mechanic.
@@OutMotorsports okay thank you I’m looking at either a explorer or expedition Was going to get a 4 door pickup But the the price I don’t really drive much maybe 15000 a year Already own a obs f150 the suv was going to be a family and work While I slowly restore the pickup Trying to make it we’re it not a 7 year loan and those kinda things
I have the same Expedition with the exception the the gearing. Mine is the standard 3:15. looking at towing a boat about 6000lbs. Do you think it will be to much for this truck?
It’ll do it, just will accelerate a bit slower away from a red light. You’d notice the gearing difference more if you had a naturally aspirated engine, but the EcoBoost is pretty punchy. Double check Ford’s towing guide (Google it and it’s easy to find) to make sure you’re within the towing capacity for that gearing but you should be okay.
No, neither air ride or load leveling is offered. You can choose adaptive shocks (Ford calls it Continuous Controlled Damping or CCD) but they were not on the trim we tested. There was some squat here, even with weight distribution bars employed on the hitch, but it wasn't enough to be concerning to us. Removing some tongue weight out of the trailer (or shifting the load around) would likely help a bit.
Add some coil sumo springs. Those will take care of any squat and body roll. Pair that with a Pro Pride or Hensley Hitch and you’re ready to tow like a champ!
No, this Expedition we drove did not have the factory (integrated) trailer brake controller. We used a Tekonsha Prodigy RF. Generally, though, you can have the Ford factory controller added at any dealership for about $200, or wire your own in.
As soon as they are in the press fleets and we can drive one, we'll give it a shot! Although, they're only rated for 3,500 lbs so it'll be a smaller trailer ;-)
U must not know much about fords turbo 6. They have over heating problems while towing especially up hill and on top of that ive seen timing chain issues. As a technician these r not great engines.
I like these but unfortunately i won't be upgrading for a long time they can't tow enough i regularly tow 9-10k on my '13 with the 5.4 and from what I've read these aren't rated up to 9k like mine is
My 2018 Max Platinum Expedition with max tow wasn't cheap, but man does it kick ass. My previous truck was a Yukon with the 6.2L V8. There's just no comparison. The 3.5 ecoboost could fly up mountain passes at whatever speed I want, unlike the GMC which really struggled at elevation.
Isn’t that EcoBoost a gem?!
I had a ecoboost in a f150 but traded for a gladiator, man do I miss that motor. Talked my wife in trading her explorer for this expedition for towing a camper, can’t wait.
@@markgosser9578 Which engine did you get in the Gladiator? We really liked the EcoDiesel in the model we reviewed recently... but the EcoBoost Expedition is indeed a freight train of a towing platform. Enjoy!
The key to anything is properly equipped. Just thought I'd comment. I'm at the complete opposite of the spectrum. I travel a lot for work and drive a Ford Ecosport with 1.0L 3cyl Ecoboost. I tow with it. I'm capable of light towing. I pull a small 4x6 enclosed cargo trailer with it.
Serves my purpose as a luggage trailer and for work tools and personal gear.
Absolutely. The bigger the enclosed trailer, the more "sail in the wind" effect you have and thus, more care you have to follow when choosing a tow vehicle.
Rented a Bronco sport in pacific north west 1.5 3cy Ecoboost was a 🐻 tough little engine more than capable.
Great report, I have a new 2020 Max, non-heavy duty tow. 3.31 gear.Dealer added in dash electric brake control. I bought to tow TT up to 6600lbs. No HD tow, price point was not doable. Thanks for this video.
Thanks! Hope the new Max works out for you - even with the 3.31 gearing, the EcoBoost and 10-speed work really well to get things moving and keep them moving. Should be a great truck for you and the Max was the right choice with longer wheelbase.
Great video! Also, love that you compare to a Toyota Sequoia at 4:14, then one goes past you a few seconds later.
Definitely not planned at all ;-)
Sequoia is so much more reliable especially if u r going to beat on them. Many have over 500k no drivetrain repairs just maintenance.
This video answered every question I would have had about this model year and towing questions. Thanks. great video.
Thanks for watching!
The max tow also brings a transmission cooler I believe
Interesting, it wasn't mentioned on Ford's website. We'll have to check in with them to see if it's included but not listed.
@@OutMotorsports Transmission cooler, upgraded radiator, limited slip differential, integrated brake controller, pro trailer assist and higher tow capacity. If you are 100 lbs below the tow capacity and you are sitting in the vehicle, you are immediately over the tow rating. You have to factor in the weight of the contents of the vehicle.
Chris Thomas what you are talking about is payload capacity. Different than towing capacity
@@danielbeckman272 Yep, sorry misspoke and said tow capacity. Meant to say payload
What's the price difference in the max towing package, the one rated for 9200 pounds
Nice review! Thinking about trading/upgrading to a Silverado 3.0 Duramax or Expedition Max.
Great video. Ordered the '22. Will be here in 6 months......I hope!
Congrats - fingers crossed it doesn't take too long!
2020 Ford Expedition Limited, 7,893 miles
Did I miss it? What kinda fuel economy are you getting while towing that trailer and how much does the trailer weigh?
Great review, I'm looking into the trading my truck in for a family truckster, and the 21 Expedition w/ Max tow is in my radar, especially for towing my race trailer. Overall handles the load ok? Thanks and be safe.
Glad you enjoyed! Really hard to beat the EcoBoost for towing, it is just so effortless. If your trailer is like ours (enclosed) we'd recommend the Expedition Max for its longer wheelbase. Should help with stability a bit. We had weight distribution but no sway control for this test.
I pull a 7k wet camper with my lwb Expedition. Does great with WDH setup properly.
I have an Expy with 6000lbs towing max, I wanna get a travel trailer that is around 5300lbs dry +500lbs of stuff. Would you do it?
Probably, but watch your weight of stuff in the trailer AND the payload inside the Expedition. Check the doorjamb sticker to see what's allowed, subtract your 580-600 lbs of tongue weight from that number, that's what you can have inside for people and things.
And please please PLEASE use a weight distributing hitch. Set up right it should be fine, set up poorly and you will not have much fun. If you need a hitch this is a good one:
amzn.to/3q5cWu6
The WDH is purchased according to trailer weight so you do not want an 8k hitch if your trailer weight is 6k, for example. They sell the TrackPro in various capacities.
@@OutMotorsports thanks, i have 145 left on my payload. 12,000GCWR limit
Is it more realistic to found a used Ford Expedition like 2002-2018
I have a 3500 pound trailer for homeowners needs but need a family vehicle without a car loan
Have a older fl50 single cab I love but outgrown
Any Expedition will tow a 3,500 pound trailer pretty easily. You'll be looking at a variety of engines and transmissions through those model years; generally the newer the better. All have some weak points but they are common, well known, and easily fixed by any competent mechanic.
@@OutMotorsports okay thank you
I’m looking at either a explorer or expedition
Was going to get a 4 door pickup
But the the price I don’t really drive much maybe 15000 a year
Already own a obs f150 the suv was going to be a family and work
While I slowly restore the pickup
Trying to make it we’re it not a 7 year loan and those kinda things
Jake! Good review!
I have the same Expedition with the exception the the gearing. Mine is the standard 3:15. looking at towing a boat about 6000lbs. Do you think it will be to much for this truck?
It’ll do it, just will accelerate a bit slower away from a red light. You’d notice the gearing difference more if you had a naturally aspirated engine, but the EcoBoost is pretty punchy. Double check Ford’s towing guide (Google it and it’s easy to find) to make sure you’re within the towing capacity for that gearing but you should be okay.
Is there air ride or load leveling suspension? Looks like the Expedition is squatting when hooked up to the trailer.
No, neither air ride or load leveling is offered. You can choose adaptive shocks (Ford calls it Continuous Controlled Damping or CCD) but they were not on the trim we tested. There was some squat here, even with weight distribution bars employed on the hitch, but it wasn't enough to be concerning to us. Removing some tongue weight out of the trailer (or shifting the load around) would likely help a bit.
Add some coil sumo springs. Those will take care of any squat and body roll. Pair that with a Pro Pride or Hensley Hitch and you’re ready to tow like a champ!
Does not have the heavy duty tow package.
Does yours have the stock break controller?
No, this Expedition we drove did not have the factory (integrated) trailer brake controller. We used a Tekonsha Prodigy RF. Generally, though, you can have the Ford factory controller added at any dealership for about $200, or wire your own in.
Bronco towing test
As soon as they are in the press fleets and we can drive one, we'll give it a shot! Although, they're only rated for 3,500 lbs so it'll be a smaller trailer ;-)
U must not know much about fords turbo 6. They have over heating problems while towing especially up hill and on top of that ive seen timing chain issues. As a technician these r not great engines.
I like these but unfortunately i won't be upgrading for a long time they can't tow enough i regularly tow 9-10k on my '13 with the 5.4 and from what I've read these aren't rated up to 9k like mine is
They'll do up to 9,300 lbs if properly equipped. The Expedition we reviewed was NOT a "Max Tow" truck and was rated for less weight.