5 Good/Bad Things About 2020 Ford Expedition FX4 Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video review of the 2020 Ford Expedition, we show the exterior, interior and go for a drive while discussing our 5 good/bad things about Ford's full-size SUV. Is it good enough to convince buyers to pass on the new Chevy Tahoe? Probably not, but it isn't that far behind.
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we have 2 expeditions, 1999 4.6L and a 2004 5.4L, the engine died in the 1999 at 289,000 miles only due to neglect, we replaced the engine now its at 389000 miles original transmission, the 2004 5.4L is at 234,000 miles, original drive-train and everything still works, both have very reliable
Hey Tim nice review, thanks again but I have 2 things about the don’t like 5. 1. USB outlets, they do make a USB splitter which will save you from an argument with the wife, but I agree in a vehicle that expensive they could provide them. 2. The fuel mileage. You should have filled it up before the test. You mentioned they brought it with a full tank but the gage will read full and still be 3 gallons from the pump clicking off. So you really don’t know for sure and 3 gallons on you math will make a difference . As I mentioned in the past I have a 3.5 and the last 6 fill up I have been averaging 22.4, but that has been about 75% highway driving @70.. And one last think, still watching for that Explorer ST review.. Just keeping it out there so you don’t forget.. Have a great weekend and thanks again.
ITS IS BETTER THAN THE TAHOE
I work on those thing ,the tahoe are good suv,I be seeing them with 200k and up for just regular maintenance, they have a simple powertrain, I'm a ford guy btw
@@MrPami9899 yeah the ones before 2007 ! After 2007 all Chevy SUVs are crap especially if they have cylinder deactivation! That 5.3 engine was a good engine before 2007!
@@cbpilotcars1 for whatever reason we do more lifters and cam on silverado 5.3 than tahoe and suburban 5.3
My experience is Ford's 4WD systems are simply better than what GM puts on their trucks. I have a neighbor with a Tahoe and an H2. He lives on a side road with perhaps a 4% incline to the main road, during the winters if the streets freeze or even with compressed snow the Tahoe and the H2 struggle to get up that slope, spinning the right rear and left front, while their companion wheel just sits there, clearly these are completely open differentials. I've sat at the bottom of the slope for 15 minutes while he just spins and spins never did I see all four wheels spin in unison. Neither my 99 nor my 19 F150 will even spin a wheel on the same slope, I just go right up with no issues. I have never seen one of my F150's spin just one front wheel at a time. The 99 had a mechanical locking rear and that would kick in quickly, the 2019, has an electronic locking rear, I've never had to use it though, the front axle will always put power to both wheels if it's engaged. I have used the 99 on a farm to free stuck tractors. If that truck is in 4x4 high, all four wheels spin in unison all the time, though with a stuck tractor even that often won't do the trick.
Perhaps there is something wrong with my neighbor's vehicles, however based on what I have seen with my own eyes I would not take a Chevy 4x4 out in the snow period, they are basically AWD systems, poor AWS systems at that.
And yes the 99 lasted 20 years without major issues, I'm handing it down to a niece after her husband bought a used Land Rover that worked for all of 1 week before the transmission locked and they sold it for salvage.
Motor wise no those lil weak 3.6 turbo engines are trash and won't last in tha long run
I have 2 ford trucks and they are the best thing I have ever bought and they run strong!
Owned 2 GMC Yukon Denali over the last few years. Both were very unreliable. Had a 2009 and a 2016. Sold them and made the switch to the expedition. No complaints here. Way more reliable. 30k miles a year.
Totally agree! I used to love the tahoes pre-2007 after 2007 they just became junk!
I can completely agree! Had an expediton and got 2012 tahoe.. piece of freakin junk! Looking to get back in an expediton
@@alexamiranda336 GM has been building terrible stuff since maybe 2006 or 07. The trucks are a complete mess too
@@Youngmechanical i wish i had known that before i bought this damn tahoe i really want an expediton but damn they are pricey
You can switch the turbo gauge for transmission temp in the advanced settings. See how it compare to the Tundra.
Sadly, I had this a month ago. I forgot to check it!
I drove Tahoe's daily at work and they were complete garbage. I bought my wife an Expedition and I love it.
Same. I'm done with gm
I just switched from a traverse to expedition! Love it
What year tha best tahoe burbans where there 99-2005 after that trash
@@tractorback76 why
It’s surprising you hit the manufacturer mpg average. Those numbers are determined in IDEAL conditions with the lightest weight 2WD offering they have. I usually get 2mpg’s less than the advertised amount, even with reserved driving habits.
Bring back the Excursion...
Ford has (maybe) heard out prayers! My Excursion is 18 years old with 270.000 miles and still runs strong! www.hotcars.com/ford-revives-excursion-name-trademark-application/
Walt Bowman I ordered a 2005 XLT, V10, 4:30 gears, Gray Leather, Tow mirrors, in Toreador Red during the last week the order banks were open. Truck arrived at dealership and my wife bailed on me. I still have not gotten over it. Would still be driving it today had we pulled the trigger.
You need to test in the winter time. I'm curious how easy these independent suspension "4wd" get stuck in the snow.
Can't speak for the the Expedition but in the AWD Flex, they have very little trouble with snow. Drove through 6+in of snow last week, didn't have any trouble. Only issue with the Flex would be ground clearance.
I have a 2019 Stealth edition. It did awesome in the snow this past winter! Love it.
Pretty awesome vehicle Tim. I think the gen2 3.5 ecoboost is one of Fords best light duty engines right now. Ultimate family hauler in winter conditions. I'm not sure who would actually off road one of these with the price, so independent rear with no articulation is a non factor IMO. I'd have this one over the GM just due to the frame wax situation and the salt around here.
The frame wax is interesting. Once COVID calms down, I’m off to Michigan. Some guy has a 2007 with a million miles. I want to see the frame!
@@Pickuptrucktalk Yeah I live on an island, Prince Edward Island in Canada. So unfortunately the frame wax doesn't work for me despite liking GM products. Even the air here is salty enough to corrode. A neighbor of mine could just bang on the frame of his gmt800 and his driveway would be coated in rust. LOL. I test drove 5 year old Tahoes too from the dealer for the wife and was shocked at the state of the frame. I'm surely inland its a different story.
Mike 1. Sucks about rust. 2. Wow! Prince Edward Island is ridiculously beautiful!
@@Pickuptrucktalk As a golfer you would like it here lots of courses. Yes it's a nice place for 6 months of the year anyways lol.
Mike oh yeah. 6 months. Your winters are outrageous and that’s even with a guy from Nebraska talking!
Actually since the new Expedition redesign in 2018, its sales figures have steady climbed, while the Tahoe has fallen. As of this year 2021, the Expedition has surpassed the Tahoe in sales. They are of course both excellent SUV's, but the Tahoe even with its latest design has fell on its face in comparison to the Expedition.
Just picked me up a 2021 Expedition Max FX4 yesterday 😁
Exactly
@@monkeyslap same here
The company I work for makes the grilles for the Expedition
I need a stealth version
Sync 3 for $70k? No thanks. I wish my 2.7 had the boost pressure gauge... got my rear view camera replaced today...It seems to be a bit clearer but it could just be my hope but apparently the current Ford cameras aren’t that great? I’ve learned the boost, at least here doesn’t seem care about octane(87+) but it’s more about the heat... I got 23.4 in the Bay Area over the weekend on 87. Wasn’t over 85F! 😀 102 on the way home and downhill only 20. So hopefully cooler weather helps. Good review! Thank you sir! Tacoma review coming when it cools down a bit.
My sister’s back up camera failed at 70k. And her AC compressor, blend door actuator, and windshield wiper motor. 2013 Ford Edge.
Better than the government motors junk in every way.
How to turn on 4H mode like on Ford Expedition 2014-2017 ?
Just put it in 4 auto.
Wow this looked so good a couple of years ago, and now it looks ANCIENT when the new Tahoe and Suburban are out. Damn!
Drove the new Tahoe. The interior is still craptastic and the A/C sucks. Makes alot of fan noise but no cold air.
I don't know but I love my limited edition cool seeds Periscope steering wheel adaptive headlights 360 camera front, rear camera Auto braking adaptive cruise control moonroof . Even the high beams come on and off leaving my sight steps are automatic when I open the door they come out
This may be a dumb question, but did you have it in eco mode while doing the fuel economy test? Was it in 2wd mode? Or do you think it should just get the fuel economy without fiddling with the drivetrain?
It was in 2wd drive. As a normal thing, I don’t switch to eco during tests. I leave it at normal like I think most owners would do.
Pickup Truck Plus SUV Talk the dash showed in being in 4A, not 2WD
Tulliandar sure. You got me. There is some slight efficiency losses by not using 2wd at all times, but the 4 auto doesn’t impact fuel economy that much imo.
Pickup Truck Plus SUV Talk yeah, I mean 20 is pretty good, so it’s must not have that big of an impact. I wish I could get that regularly with my 3.5 egoboost. Around town I tend to get 13-ish
Eco mode only helps around town and keeps you from making those jackrabbit take offs from red lights. It does nothing on the HWY at all and I think it's terrible for the hwy because up there you want that torque when you need it. I average 22 hwy and 17 city. Using fuelly app I hand calculate at about 17.5 but the latest road trip I had all hwy I got 20. Wet/snow mode is similar to eco mode. The trip computer is ALWAYS about 1 gallon off hand calculated.
Check oil when engine cool.
These seem to have far fewer issues than the new GM family of big truck based SUV’s
just watched the TfL channel they were showing the Tahoe z71 ...
they talked about the auto locker they said they were unable to get info on the locker...
so they put the vehicle on a section that would activate the auto locker ....
they were trying to see to if it would activate... and it did not so evidently there are no lockers on the Tahoe.... where the expedition has one strange
Weird. Why didn't they just call GM and ask them?
Same G80 locker from the Silverado and it is awful.
HellKitty 101 are you sure? Sounds like some confusion.
@@Pickuptrucktalk you know, you guys may be right. I just tried to build a Z71 and it only states a limited-slip. And I just asked a buddy of mine that sells Chevy if it is available and he doesn't think so. This is not good. The Z71 has all of the looks and none of the hardcore stuff to really get dirty. I don't understand GMs thinking in not offering a controllable locker on the Silverado/GMC(both the Ford FX4 and Ram Rebel offer true lockers that can be locked on demand), and now this Tahoe without one at all...
HellKitty 101 also can’t get Tahoe Z71 with a diesel. Dammit. Another video on the way!
Try checking the transmission fluid.... they don’t have a dip stick anymore.
Most vehicles don't have a transmission dip stick anymore.
They copied the GM antenna too from far away you couldnt tell the difference if it was a GM or Ford look so similar.
I rather drive an expedition than a shitty chevy. FORD is the best truck and will always be the innovator
Usb behind the console
Better than the 2020 Tahoe? Absolutely, by a country mile. But the new Tahoe brought its A-game. The Z71 is a real beast compared to the FX4. And the High Country finally makes the interior somewhat luxurious, though the Yukon Denali really ups the ante. Ford will need to add the new 2021 F150 updates here as well, but I feel it could be years off since this vehicle just came out in 2018.
The 2021 Tahoe Z71 doesn't even have the crappy G80 GM is known for. Zero locker or terrain modes, complete failure for offroad.
@@user-nv3xx7jc5o I just found out about that. WTF is Chevy thinking, especially with a Jeep Wagoneer on the horizon that will certainly possess all of the Jeep 4WD tricks.
Towing is 11k. At 11 or 12 mi a gal. Similar or better than most V8s I've seen.
I'd go with the Surburban with the 6.2
Expedition payload ranges between 1400-1800lbs depending on trim and options. If you are serious about towing, max extended wheelbase version is much better.
I towed one out of a place it shouldn't have gone with my jlu Rubicon. Lol.
Yup. Better than Tahoe
Thats not even problem, com back when you have a compain.
I’ve had a 2005 Ford F-150 5.4 v8,2012 Ford explore v6,2017 Ford F-150 5.4 v8, I will never drive a Ford again #toyota
Toyota Sequoia only rows 7100lbs.
No 5.4 in 2017
I meant the 5.0
@@jayreel89 reliability? Or just overall quality?
That’s suppose to compete with the new Tahoe and Yukon?
The 5.3 is so underpowered
@@5ohJ get a 6.2 then
@@Otownbassin you have to spend 75-80k to get 6.2. Not worth another 10-15. when that is only difference
@@brettcurtis681 they sure are not worth it
These low payload numbers are almost robbery. Especially for what you pay for these things. I saw the TFL review of the Suburban and I really don't like it either. It would be really nice to have a base model of these with cloth seats, decent payload and not so many gadgets. If you want to take 5-6 guys on a trip with a tool trailer (I used to do a lot of that with an old Suburban) you can't even buy one with basic things like a big fuel tank, decent payload and column shifter. They don't offer it! Chevy is even worse. I don't think they offer a cloth seat option.
Agreed. It would be nice if they built a HD version with a work truck buyer in mind.
@@Pickuptrucktalk I think the last suburban we ran had over 400k miles on it when we switched to a van. That van was horrible! Used it for almost a year and bought a used Excursion with 6.0 diesel that had been gone through and bulletproofed. It lasted longer than I did!
duggydo wait, lasted longer than you did? Are you dead?!? Am I talking to a DEAD person!!! 😂
@@Pickuptrucktalk Well, longer than I cared to work! 😂
The 6.2L Suburban has less payload at 1470 lb. The key is to go camping when your kids are small under 50lb...lol
LIKE WHAT DO U MEAN!?!
Huh?
Plenty of room there for wide hipped, long legged Swedish gals and their meatballs..........I knew an Italian gal who could make a Swedish meat ball.............😉👍
Your wrong, Expedition all the way! Aluminum body all the way!!!