Great review as always! I did notice a good bit of squat there, but sounds like it still rode well. Did it lighten the front end enough to make it feel a bit vague or uncertain at all? Do you think if you went to buy one, you’d get a model with the air suspension to help with that?
Thanks! The trailer's got roughly 680 pounds of tongue weight which is within appropriate levels. We did not use weight distribution for this test but could have. Without WD, the nose still felt fine and steering was normal, nothing concerning. Weight distribution would help more than air suspension so that'd be the focus first. Air just makes it ride level but doesn't have the same effect as WDH.
Another excellent review as always. The XLT trim level is the “sweet spot” in the lineup that nicely balances (heavy, payload killing) creature features vs. luxury and comfort. I remain amazed that Ford continues with that dumb-ass headlight switch that probably debuted on the 1955 Fairlane, however…
Glad you enjoyed! Definitely good to consider the payload of each trim, XLT makes a little more sense if equipped a bit differently from ours (and thus cheaper).
Yep, 8.5x20 - good eye! Stock mirrors tend to work fine with it and worked fine in this case. Extended tow mirrors are always a nice option although Ford doesn't appear to offer them on the Expedition. Guessing there are some good aftermarket options if you are towing often and want that extra visibility.
Will this tow a classic car in an enclosed car trailer without any issues? Say a 3k classic car and whatever the weight is of the average enclosed trailer
Probably! Depends on the length of the enclosed trailer and if it's steel or aluminum. My trailer in this video is aluminum, 20' with another 4' v-nose, and weighs 2,600 lbs empty per the manufacturer. Steel would add another ~1,500 pounds to the empty weight. And that says nothing of anything else in the trailer... I have a rolling tool chest, spare wheels, parts, etc. that all add weight. Fully loaded with my 2,650 lb BMW inside I am right at 7k lbs. So yeah, probablymaybe but it really depends on the trailer.
Great video man! Awesome job!!!
They need to make tow mirrors for the expedition for pulling trailers like that!
Indeed, there are some universal-fit options for this generation of Expedition but Ford doesn't sell anything officially.
Needs to be turned into a hybrid and add factory air suspension if they want to make it a great option for RV towing.
Would LOVE to see the PowerBoost setup out of the F-150 in the Expedition!
Great review as always! I did notice a good bit of squat there, but sounds like it still rode well. Did it lighten the front end enough to make it feel a bit vague or uncertain at all? Do you think if you went to buy one, you’d get a model with the air suspension to help with that?
Thanks! The trailer's got roughly 680 pounds of tongue weight which is within appropriate levels. We did not use weight distribution for this test but could have. Without WD, the nose still felt fine and steering was normal, nothing concerning. Weight distribution would help more than air suspension so that'd be the focus first. Air just makes it ride level but doesn't have the same effect as WDH.
@@OutMotorsports would love to see this redone with weight distribution to see the reduction in squat and drivability.
@Outmotorsports what was the weight/tongue weight of the trailer?
Another excellent review as always.
The XLT trim level is the “sweet spot” in the lineup that nicely balances (heavy, payload killing) creature features vs. luxury and comfort. I remain amazed that Ford continues with that dumb-ass headlight switch that probably debuted on the 1955 Fairlane, however…
Glad you enjoyed! Definitely good to consider the payload of each trim, XLT makes a little more sense if equipped a bit differently from ours (and thus cheaper).
thats 8.5x20 trailer (if im not mistaken) - could you see around it fine with stock mirrors? would you need extended towing mirrors?
Yep, 8.5x20 - good eye! Stock mirrors tend to work fine with it and worked fine in this case. Extended tow mirrors are always a nice option although Ford doesn't appear to offer them on the Expedition. Guessing there are some good aftermarket options if you are towing often and want that extra visibility.
@@OutMotorsports appreciate the quick reply! Noted
Will this tow a classic car in an enclosed car trailer without any issues? Say a 3k classic car and whatever the weight is of the average enclosed trailer
Probably! Depends on the length of the enclosed trailer and if it's steel or aluminum. My trailer in this video is aluminum, 20' with another 4' v-nose, and weighs 2,600 lbs empty per the manufacturer. Steel would add another ~1,500 pounds to the empty weight. And that says nothing of anything else in the trailer... I have a rolling tool chest, spare wheels, parts, etc. that all add weight. Fully loaded with my 2,650 lb BMW inside I am right at 7k lbs.
So yeah, probablymaybe but it really depends on the trailer.
Why would you title your video "max towing review" but not have the HD tow package which gives the max tow capacity?
The vehicle is the Expedition Max, ie the long wheelbase model.
If this is a “max” tow review, you need the HD package ;)
"Expedition Max" not "Max Tow" ;-) Expedition Max = long wheelbase model
Did you mention the mpg with that trailer?
No, but historically when towing this trailer with EcoBoost Expeditions we've seen ~10-11 MPG.
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