The Island Leader Who’s Sticking It to China | Ishmael Toroama

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  • Bougainville is a small island of around 300,000 residents. It's currently part of Papua New Guinea, but it wants to break away and become its own nation. One of the things that makes this island so special is its ability to thwart Chinese influence. In this episode of China Unscripted, we look at the history of Bougainville, how its leader, Ishmael Toroama, is sticking it to China, and how China factors into Bougainville's bid for independence. Joining us in this episode is John Kuhns, the chairman and CEO of Numa Numa Resources in Bougainville. He’s also the author of the book They Call Me Ishmael, a novel based on the real story of a rebel leader with big dreams for his island.
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ความคิดเห็น • 87

  • @ChinaUnscripted
    @ChinaUnscripted  2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This is a highlight from the full episode No.167 China's Pacific Expansion BLOCKED! | John Kuhns th-cam.com/video/m9uDW30-yso/w-d-xo.html

    • @MirceaKitsune
      @MirceaKitsune 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wonder if it makes me evil that I couldn't not laugh whenever I hear Papuna Ginny.

    • @leads823
      @leads823 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was unable to view the full episode. Is there anything weird you can do to get past the block?

    • @TonyRule
      @TonyRule 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@leads823 Weirdly, it's set to private, so no.

    • @wolfgangkranek376
      @wolfgangkranek376 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bogonville hurts in my ears...

  • @rolleyrolley7192
    @rolleyrolley7192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I just made new friend from bogan vile here in Sydney name made me laugh becausehow Aussie use the word bogan.
    But i have to say he is one of the nicest people ive ever met.
    Very thoughtful of other people always smiling. I love every opportunity to for a chat. His great out look on life.

    • @brendanh8193
      @brendanh8193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      When I was growing up, my dad(therefore family) befriended two Boganvillians who were over here in Australia. One was studying, the other was having a complex operation on his spine. They were lovely, and when they smiled, their teeth were like beacons as their skin was so black. Their humor was laconic but poignantly reflective, showing a deep intelligence I now realise. I greatly enjoyed being around them.

    • @dusmangi
      @dusmangi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      souns the same but slighty different bougainville its spelt not bogan 😆

  • @hoangkimviet8545
    @hoangkimviet8545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It is the first time I've known Bougaville.

  • @yashav2949
    @yashav2949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    And there I was thinking Boganville was a nickname for a very large trailer park type location. Even they are sticking it to China apparently

  • @bobjackson4720
    @bobjackson4720 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In 1988 the BRA demanded 14 billion dollars from BCL to allow them to continue operating. BCL was obliged by law to always negotiate with the central government, not the landowners. While BCL was trying to make changes to allow it to pay more to the landowners BRA attacked BCL assets. Bougainvillians in general very racist against the people of PNG. I lived there 13 years

  • @Dwarvish_Cooks
    @Dwarvish_Cooks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As an Australian, our biggest bogan destination in the region is Bali. Hence the term Bali Bogan! But the reference was a nice and funny surprise to hear.

  • @David_Camerwrongun
    @David_Camerwrongun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man gets my support and I'm sure everyone else's, stand by your morals, do the best for your country

  • @vancityguy
    @vancityguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Let's start now, buy products made either locally, NATO countries, or Western friendly/democratic nations (Taiwan, Japan etc.)

  • @dksgalaxy2268
    @dksgalaxy2268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LOVE YOU GUYS!!!!!!!!!!

  • @sharkbait6631
    @sharkbait6631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    We need honesty here. The biggest copper mine in bouganville was by an Australian company. both PNG and the Australian goverment had directi onvolvement in the crisis due to ecoconomic interest. Both were responsible for the unfare sharing of wealth with the islanders that led to the war. When the war started australia provided helicopters to the PNGDF to fight the rebels.

  • @ruthferguson6903
    @ruthferguson6903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Were people on these islands when they were so-called "discovered"? If people were there, then they didn't discover anything!

  • @skeecats
    @skeecats 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He "discovered it" you know my people were there already and they knew the area and mapped it.

  • @skiingfast1
    @skiingfast1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What happened to Bogainville when the mine closed?

  • @jnseney
    @jnseney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ok is it pronounced like Bow-gain-ville or Boo-gain-ville, I thought it was the second.

    • @davdav8709
      @davdav8709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Beau-Gun Ville

  • @neumoi3324
    @neumoi3324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And I thought the name Bougainville came from the plant Bougainvillea, because it grew extensively there. 😁😁

    • @13gan
      @13gan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The plant actually got its name from the same name (either same person that discover the island or the family), apparently in commemoration for his support/patronage.

  • @jasongable3456
    @jasongable3456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Intriguing i never knew of this political issue or the island

  • @teridacktaljones4553
    @teridacktaljones4553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🙏👍

  • @christopherthom9925
    @christopherthom9925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GOD bless all free people 😉

  • @MirceaKitsune
    @MirceaKitsune 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if it makes me evil that I couldn't not laugh whenever I hear Papuna Ginny.

  • @pampoovey6977
    @pampoovey6977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Blonde Chris and Asian Female Chris did a great job! 😃 👍

  • @giorginoedery4811
    @giorginoedery4811 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Al-Vay-Roe😂

  • @criticaltheories5222
    @criticaltheories5222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Don't forget to the Solomon Islands made a deal with China for them to set up a naval base

    • @fourq2049
      @fourq2049 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's for trade. No military base is allowed

    • @Lizkrrrr
      @Lizkrrrr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fourq2049 Security pact for trade? 🤔

    • @mikecampos1193
      @mikecampos1193 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fourq2049 stop lying you filthy Commie.

    • @criticaltheories5222
      @criticaltheories5222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@fourq2049 China also said they we're not going to take over Hong Kong.
      Edit: Correction. Not China, the CCP.

    • @senatorjosephmccarthy2720
      @senatorjosephmccarthy2720 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@criticaltheories5222 . It's a world full of people who can't recognize their lying, murdering, enslaving, life-ruining enemies. Yes, that's china and russia and iran and many more.

  • @chocol8tsundae
    @chocol8tsundae 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your guest should learn how to pronounce the name of the country. It's not ''Papooa''... it's ''Papua''.

    • @tallaganda83
      @tallaganda83 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cringe af, just call it PNG if you can’t pronounce it like all the locals do anyway.

  • @user-py1ee7os7w
    @user-py1ee7os7w 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is not right, what the president is doing should made known to the people of Bougainville

  • @Romanovhundreds17
    @Romanovhundreds17 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wheres chris? I've got a feeling he keeps slipping off to get a hair transplant bit by bit ,because it's looking thicker lately 🤔🧔

  • @RobinsVoyage
    @RobinsVoyage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God damnit. Where is Chris?

  • @barbarabrooks4747
    @barbarabrooks4747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why not join Australia? It would give more security than independence. They would probably have to be have to have another UN referendum, but being a state in Australia, after negotiating good terms would be very beneficial as far as economic stability and health care.

  • @assajventress3204
    @assajventress3204 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lmao. Boganville.

  • @steve2064
    @steve2064 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I get the joke 😄.

  • @user-nj7rj7xr6c
    @user-nj7rj7xr6c 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    John's khunz is a crook

  • @iolohammer
    @iolohammer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    commen5

  • @zzzzzsleeping
    @zzzzzsleeping 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For years the Pacific nations were neglected by Australia - United states - new Zealand now that the Chinese are knocking - Australia n United states start panicking

    • @petersinclair3997
      @petersinclair3997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Australia provides seven times as much in aid money to the Pacific islands than does China. The data are readily accessible online.

  • @glass1258
    @glass1258 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bogusville

  • @ShaddySoldier
    @ShaddySoldier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I refuse to take any place called "Boganville" seriously. Sounds like some corrupt banana republic island.

  • @larrysmith2123
    @larrysmith2123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do your homework dude.

  • @fourq2049
    @fourq2049 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Taiwan cannot " stick it to China " China is independent of all other countries. The are global exporters with a powerful military🤣

    • @mikecampos1193
      @mikecampos1193 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Silence slave communist don't speak.

    • @sydneythomason1801
      @sydneythomason1801 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Four Q
      Except when they lick Pooties backside.

    • @michaelandrews4783
      @michaelandrews4783 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Taiwan has the only democratically elected Chinese government and therefore is the only legitimate government that can rule the mainland. 🤣

  • @HavingCoffieWithMrSatan
    @HavingCoffieWithMrSatan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr satan REEEEE REEEEE

  • @agalah408
    @agalah408 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just to put the record straight, In central New South Wales, Australia there's a town called Nyngan on the Bogan river. In 2015 they made the logical decision to erect a giant cutout statue of a Big Bogan. A guy in a singlet, with a fishing rod and beer cooler, holding his thumb up. Think twice before disparaging significant cultural icons like Bogans. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Bogan

  • @richmond8538
    @richmond8538 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When two elephants fight, its the grass that suffers
    th-cam.com/video/pDJF0l5xKQ0/w-d-xo.html

  • @RobinsVoyage
    @RobinsVoyage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God damnit. Where is Chris?

    • @larrysmith2123
      @larrysmith2123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      he resigned 😭

    • @RobinsVoyage
      @RobinsVoyage 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@larrysmith2123 I don't believe it