@@saschaberger7201 it's poe; everyone will hit a wall at some point. My point is that this game is absurdly complex, obtuse even. Having a few details slip through the cracks is expected, and certainly not something people should be mocked for.
@@skinnysnorlax1876 well that's right I just dnt know wich creators u are speaking of that are "mocking down" on their community, basically every streamer I know off (the Bigger ones ofc) are vry nice and friendly people that try to help people
OMG this video helped me soooo much! I didn't realize how much Im missing out in terms of defense AND damage, really appreciate these kind of videos that really break down what's missing and how to fix it!!
my 2 cents that people underview, roll your flasks - granite , jade well try to aim for t2 increase armour and evasion respectively and add the bench craft to apply "use when reach full", that aleviates the piano style pressure of flask usage and you can focus on manually dodge skills and use life flask. PSA: White flasks only need 4 bauble that you can buy on act 3/7 in the vendor for some weapon quality currency then roll your flaks.
9:03 I think it's good to mention that the added flat fire damage doesn't effect the fire trap, it should say added fire damage "to spells." The added fire damage is if you're melee attacking with the scepter. It can trip up a lot of people If you're ever unsure hover over the gems and it should say what it is. Fire trap will have a "spell" tag so anything affecting spells will affect it
Great to see this kind of feedback on builds! I was actually around for some of these PoBs and gave some advice based on my limited game knowledge and your build guides. Both great to see which things I got right and in what areas I still have a lot to learn myself :)
I think for many people this is useful for the sole reason, they only now realised how they can and should work with PoB :D. As a newb myself, it took me a while to realise the PoB app is not just there for me to blindly follow someone elses build. It mainly exists to import my own character and play around with points to solve my current problems, to test if I'm ready to transition to different aura/skill setup, check how much I improve my damage/defense with new piece of gear etc. At this point in the game (lvl 95) I'm not buying anything from the market without importing it to my PoB first and checking what that piece actually does for me and if it's worth the price. Same goes for when I want to craft, I'm playing around with Craft of Exile and PoB to figure out what I'm aiming for and what is the minimum acceptable crafting result, that will give me what I need.
this should be the mid step, once you learn all the outcomes, you'll not use it anymore and become a build expert. I like Death Oath build and I league started whit it for more than 5 leagues already. Now, I know every step in what to buy and when even the currency I need (ex. the impress amulet whit despair cost 3-5 divines the first days and always falls after) The same example can be applied to the unique boots from the Maven for RF build. My build whit out that amulet is garbage so I know I need 3 divines asap for it. Then, because the chest has chaos dmg taken over time, I know I need chaos rez and life regen to sustain or else cant run the build. Another thing is the off-color of the chest. I learn on trail the easiest way to have 2g2r2b is whit crafting bench and jewelers orbs so I try to have them ready when I put the chest on. Atributes is another pain in the a$$, especially strength, so I look for boots and belts to make up for it. Rings are also a problem as I need them magic in combination whit VIridis Veil, the Maven helm. This are just for the start and once done move to mid-game, swap to cluster, watchers eye, good bow, and so on. Then end the game, min-max, try to add as much magic find as possible and aim for that Mageblood in the first 2 weeks. Then play another week, have some currency and find a new build to enjoy. Many will tell you, the trial and error put in a build has immense satisfaction levels of fun and fulfillment. Dont think what I know about Death Oath I learn it in 1 league! It tooked me 5 leagues and I'm sure I'm not 100% optimizing it even now. But even if is just a copy of someone build, just that you succeed in copying is enough, especially when you see the build working and most importantly, understanding how it works makes POE enjoyable for years to come.
Additional tipp for newer players about the "stop leveling cast when damage taken". You can right click the level up "+" symbol to make it disappear. So it wont annoy/distract you on the side of the screen.
I am always so sad, when you are going for a league starter that doesn't fit me. Cause then I have to follow another content creator and not you. After a week, when your build updates go up, I always look back and think "damn I could have gotten all the help and care of you and your community again, but instead I am lost". Keep up the good work, you are what this community needs. ❤
Try to think about it another way though: Sub does a great job of laying out the fundamentals for building. Take that knowledge, apply it to another build. Experiment and have fun, PoE is a video game at the end of the day.
@@PharCry I totally get where you are coming from but as a dad gamer with limited time I have to say applying knowledge to a new build hasn't worked for me so far. There are just too many moving parts you have to think about. I played bane three league starts but the third time I still learned a lot of new stuff.
Awesome video. I actually learnt so much about PoB from this that I am going to go try and review my own progression with and see what I can focus on. This is great!
I can't explain how much i love your laugh.. That small, quick laugh that just says " you idiot " so perfectly well without saying it.. It's the funniest on stream, when you're discussing with someone and that laugh comes up when you think they're stupid..
Always interesting to hear other people's rule of thumbs when doing stuff. I still remember a time when I could play campaign with 0 resist no problem. But that was back when there was only 4 acts. Though this did have benefit I did not have to think about gear beyond sockets for a while and do a gear up sesh once I hit maps. Just needed some move speed boots and thinks like smoke mines. Though I don't always follow or meet my rules of thumb since most of time I play ssf because I hate trading with a passion. I strive to get close. These are just my perspective of playing thounds of hours in ssf, also almost never using pob until I hit late red maps or above lv 90 and want to min max. I know it not really an option in hard-core and loosing xp sucks, but Dying is ok. Of course depends on goal, but once above lv 90. I decide if I want to focus on pushing content and getting stuff or leveling. Because sometimes more progress will be lost then gained in exp when trying to do harder stuff for chance at more loot or specific kinds of loot. Eventually you can get to point of not dying as much while getting upgrades but there is a point I find in ssf I have to make this choice for a while at least. For chaos res I do try to l3ave campaign with close to 0%, and durning whit maps work towards 25%, yellow 50% and red 75%. Though this is not a hardliners thing, if I say only get to 35% by end of yellow maps I will keep going knowing some higher tier chaos damage might hurt. I find until about start yellow maps all in on 1 defense is fine, so armour, block, evasion, es ect... (though even a mediocre amount of a secondary and teriary one helps a ton)though some require more move speed then others to allow. But once moving to and past yellow maps, you really do need to layer the defens options. Of course if stacking multiple defenses earlier, it will help alot and make it easier later but sometimes with what you get you need to focus on 1 more to start. I do also hold about the same hp guide lines 300 per act, 500 per map tier(white, yellow, red). Though is always fine to get more, if syltruggleing to meet the goal, is also sometime ok to fall behind but just gotta be OK with how that changes you gameplay and may mean an extra death hear and there. Mana Getz awkward since so many ways to balance things to work. You have amount, cost per cast, regen, recovery options, leech, eldricth battery, mana potions and so on. I don't really have ra single rule of thumb beyond goal of trying to get to point where I don't have to pay attention to it and can use skills without worry or running out. Jewels are very good for power Though I do like to challenge myself to not use cluster jewels and without timeless jewels. Though these are so strong for builds. I personally prefer other league mechanics so I don't do delirium or Legion alot. So I find ways with normal and abyss jewels and base tree. But sometimes I get into characters and push things further which then becomes worthwhile to work on those options. Though I have also done personal challenges of use 0 jewels and its possible to work but you rely alot more on good base gear and stuff. Jewels are easy power, bonus hp and res or so many other things it makes things harder to work with when you don't have them. Ssf really is a different beast when it comes to planning and build progress And you need to be alot more flexible. Main advice is people need to get more comfortable with failing and problem solving. Sure getting advice and help can help you on how to do things, but if you don't actually understand why your doing the things for your character you'll always feel lost and struggle with how to fix things when problems arise.
This video was really helpful! This wasn't the tankiest league starter I've ever played but it got me to T16s and both Voidstones on day 2 or 3 with less than 50 Chaos spent so in my opinion it was a great build.
I've been watching all your videos about this build , I always get excited when I see something new on Witch coming from this channel, I felt guilty when starting with a pathfinder and I still do even now because I know that even after purchasing all the necessary items for fire trap Elementalist I will get baited into playing auto-explode totems or Impending Doom.
Sub really has some patience, 90% of the problems in this pobs just go away if you stick to the 5 or 6 videos that Sub made for this build, it's that easy. If you have problems farming currency just do blight, it's braindead autocurrency.
Well, I wasted 44 hours on a Poison TS bait build (maybe elite players can make it work, but it was incredibly frustrating dying 6 times in a T6 map), I'm going to give this a shot. If it's anywhere near what your Bane build has been, I'll be pleased. Thank you for sharing your achievable, usable builds with us plebs.
Man, you're the best. I really think that a couple videos on POB would be really helpful to a lot of people, me included. There's just too much going on, I give up and just play the game. Like getting POB to tell you what's the best jewel for you that you showed on stream. Blew my mind, and I'm sure there's all kinds of other tips and tricks you could teach us. Fine...you got me, I'll do my POE chores and audit all my gear and skill tree pathing. 👍
I did find that i needed to rethink this build many times throughout gear changes, i understand that newer players will not have the knowledge to do the same. This causes malice towards the creators, its scary putting a build out there, especially if other content creators put it in their top 5. The shame is peoples willingness to learn, sometimes you need to put effort in to get a result! However you've dealt with it well.
Would love to suggest my friends build, not capped on res, under par on life, minus on chaos res and using eye of malice without exposure and using the two curses but no whisper of doom or other 1+ curse. Laughed my ass off when he started complaining that it's too squishy to map.
Nice, some players think that this build is like spark Ascendant or even Guardian years ago. Where you can tank Maven Memory game and Sirus Storms. But it a bit more complicated.
I would be able to tank memory game even last league with RF/FT Jugg with Vaal Molten Shell on. But this was like 3-4 mirror build. This build is not for face tanking but I like it so far)
Hey Subtractem and people in comments, hope you are having fun in Korea. Now on to my question :D I started playing again this league and I'm kind of lost about defenses(ok now I learned about chaos and will work on that one), I'm playing build with similar tree which is EA ballista elementalist and I think I got all fundamentals of build down except auras and defense against Bosses and especially ubers. Right now I'm using Lightning coil and general phys to elemental conversion on gear + taste of hate which is solid against hits, suppression is capped and 57k effective HP if I fix chaos resists so from 44k to 60k and evasion rating of 30k. My Auras are grace, purity of elements and defiance banner(and precision which I plan on dropping when I get more acc on gear), this set up seems fine for mapping. I also use Immortal call CWDT as well. But what I can't figure out is how to move my defense to next level which is to help me a bit with Uber bosses and bosses in general. I don't want to just boost DPS and call it a day. I tried doing uber exarch 3 times and lost all portals each time, I get insta gibed by mortar, his minion's slam, and ball phase(getting blink arrow might help in addition to flame dash). I burn my life flasks so fast and shit on the ground is really hard to avoid when everything is coming at you at once. So I'm clearly missing some vital information here. what piqued my interest is that I heard in video that grace does nothing on bosses, and I see lots of people running determination and molten shell, and I see immortal cry with some endurance charges. So I would love to know what are my options since right now I'm not sure that things I mentioned are even enough or how they work in practice/math. I could use some pointers on this. PoB for reference: pobb.in/nJngYmgp8RB5 Things I know that can help is getting blink arrow for extra mobility,flask refill pantheon and flask mastery. And maybe craft charge recovery on slow life flask, since even if I survive hit I'm running on fumes. Any input is apricated thanks
I learned a lot from this. I hope I can improve my build to be more defensive with the new knowledge. I know you removed my old comment before I could answer, idk if you felt I was being rude but it wasn't my intention. I still appreciate the effort you put into your videos, barely anyone I know helps people so much. I'm just having a hard time with all the new crafting and league mechanics that's all. I hope you have a good time in vacation!
feels difficult to get 5k life and 100%supression and full res on everything because gear that has all those attributes are so expensive. (was looking on a plate for 15 divs)
Watching each video and following along.. It's a bit difficult. The difference in damage is too great. Please, or should I go to you since you say you are coming to Korea? Hahaha Here is Seoul, Korea. POB is not going up. It is >시련_여름동안< in Ninja
I'm sure this was said a million times, but what curses are we applying? I have fire exposure on hit with my gloves, then we are casting flammability? Is this the 2 curses? I just want to make sure I am not missing something, which seems like a huge mistake if I am. Is a curse on hit ring the goal, so we don't have to cast flammability? Also, if we have the gloves like I do, we obviously don't need to use wave of conviction right?
@@subtractem my bad, I watched back and saw what you do in one of your vids on it. I thought the exposure would count as a curse but it clearly doesn't. Still learning over here haha
@@seapeajones it’s rough out here. At least if you get exposure on your gloves, have decent sceptres and +1 to fire gems somewhere, you’ll still kill almost everything in the game
Might have been asked elsewhere but hows the SSF viability? Ive watched most of the guides a d some streams and its all based around budget. If were happy to farm our essences and fossils and spend time crafting, can we expect to confortably do most content? Or are there really important build enabling ubiques?
@@CoinFlipAhri it did look like that to be fair. And my sc trade char had like 3 eye of malice drop so that must be in the common unique pool. Gotta decide between this and RF but leaning towards this.
The different worlds PoE players can be in is crazy. Just a couple dozen chaos for this or that -- I've never spent that much on anything. I've barely had that much. But I'm a very casual player, only about 3/4 of my life is used on poe
What could cause immortal call to not apply in PoB? I use the lvl 1 cwdt/level 3 immortal call setup and it works in game but PoB refuses to update my damage reduction. In calculations the multiplier is just not there.
4th build! he says that gear is trash, and you should never be wearing it im looking at it on a hc ruthless prospective I'm thinking hmmm!!! that horror jack crypt amour looks pretty damn good right about now!
These are the people that I imagine try to run t16s and then complain on reddit Not these people in particular, it's very respectable that they submit their build to be reviewed/improved, but I'm talking about people with 3k life -60% chaos res and 900k dps doing red maps and complaining about rares being hard to kill. Homies you can quintuple your dps for almost free..
sorry im late... how the hell am I supposed to use divine blessing with Malevolence when it costs 400+ mana to cast? i have 53 available with auras on, so wtf...?
@@subtractem Honestly I think the POB style of criticism that you're doing here let's people know a whole hell of a lot in a very small amount of time. For everybody.
On almost no build have I ever gone for more than 0ish chaos res. There's really not too many heavy hitting burst chaos hits. It's almost all dots, which not standing in the pool of poison, or popping an HP pot can fix
you really cant do that anymore. honestly ever since incursion league chaos damage is much higher, sirus is a lot of chaos damage, and even this league they added more phys as chaos and wither against you.
O.o I haven't seen any issues yet. The only real threatening chaos guy is the Hunter and for him I just put on the CoD helm for 60% chaos res and then remove it after
Build was kinda a miss for me. Got to 100 spell suppression easily. With my small es and hp, I was over 5k. I wasn't chaos capped, but definitely nowhere near negative. The issue was armor, and at least for my preference, not enough life. Offensively, I definitely could've gotten a skin of lords and an empower and gotten more DMG. Didn't want to invest when I knew I wasn't going to be happy with the defensives, so I saved up some money and am rerolling as we speak. Not a witch this time lol.
Witch will never be "tanky", but it's easy to survive most things if you don't just stand around too long. It's certainly a build that can do all content, but with some focus on play style.
@@DeedlyDood idk. I played a witch last league that had like 8k es. Pretty tanky. Then several leagues ago I played low life one that was like 80 something pct max else resists with 30 or 40k armor. That one was kinda expensive though. Melding of flesh and aegis aurora. The difference is just philosophy. Most DMG comes from gem levels, so the entire tree can be used for defense.
before watching i hope the advice isnt just going to be "get more chaos res" and actually some insight on acquiring the gear in the content available to them
@@subtractem The unveil failed on my first attempt (No life/mana%, veiled chaos also filled the 3rd prefix with a bad mod along with the veiled one so I couldn't block anything before unveiling, did I do something wrong here? And even if you can block one mod I believe it's still not 100% guaranteed to unveil life?). I think it can be fixed with eldritch annul prefix and then wild bristle matron, veiled chaos again. Would that be right? Thanks for all the updates, been really helpful. One thing I still don't know when crafting is how to figure out what (crafted) mod blocks what exactly. I know it's supposed to be "mod groups" but the tags don't explain it and I can't find a good source on this.
hey @subtractem nice content! i started 3 days ago with my first poe character ever and i decided to copy your build =) but i lack so much knowledge this video is soulfood for me
Hey, Eldritch Battery is available this league as a mod from the crucible mechanic. I checked and today they are just under 3 divines for a base. If you need to save for that then try to follow along with one of his early league build updates until you can make the switch. I think up to day 3 this build doesn't EB yet👍
Hey, i now using eldrich battery, but can you explain me please , how to use malevolence with vitality, haste and determination. Malevolence cots me about 400 mana / 45 life with divine Blessing lvl 1,vitality at lvl 20 about 233,. Now, i can use vitality only 7 lvl. Thanks a lot
level 20 vitality costs 142 mana, you should have no issues running it since you turned off clarity with EB, malevolence doesn't cost mana, it uses energy shield, so you should just have over 400 ES to use it
Your build guide and POBs have ignite proliferation, why would you have them if it is wrong gem- enjoy your guides but I have noticed little details like this throughout.
I can literally dump 60 divine in a build, end up with 3k health, no chaos res, and 1 element res not capped. 😅🤣 lol I'm miserable at min maxing my items and gear.
I generally love the game but, there are things that make it nightmarish to upgrade your gear... that thing being those goddamn LINKED SOCKETS! Even if i run accross better armour or weapon than what i got equiped, if the socket colours or the number of linked sockets dont match its unusable item!!!!!! Trying to six link a new weapon or chest armour that is slightly better than what you got stat wise, will get you bankrupt real fast or you cant afford it to begin with. I think its a MAJOR FLAW in the game!
I know where you are coming from but if you put your self in mindset that only gear worth linking is worth wearing, meaning that you will save up fusings until you find some really good stuff, then you are going to have much better time. At first your only priority is getting the links to put your gems in since that is where most of you dmg scaling is going to come from early so getting links and anything extra is just bonus, like life/resists on chest or some attack speed/damage on weapon base you need. So before you get to a point when you want to spend your fusings first you might want to farm divination cards like famous porcupine(6link short bow) or chains that bind(random 6 link chest), now that you have that you can slam some essences on it and that's your body armor/weapon for foreseeable future and you can upgrade rest of your gear until you farm enough currency for crafting. Good upgrades are rarely going to come from ground or just found because crafting is that powerful and as such you will craft items from bottom up. This means that you will try to get High quality on them(like 25%+ with fossils or some other method) and this will make linking so much easier, get your socket colors ready if you have off colours like blues on strength base then link(jeweler tricking/chrome recipe), once base is done then you start crafting on it. Now this is all for SSF(Solo self found) and if you chose to play this way that is extra challenge you seek. There are many ways to go about things and that is where a lot of fun is. You can skip this on trade league by just buying stuff from other people very cheaply and skip the pain. Also you will have a lot of currency to burn so learning to craft in trade is great. So like it really isn't that big of a deal, linking and coloring 4 sockets is effortless, so only real pain point I can think of is 6 linking unique items which are build enabling but even then you can run on 5 links fine for a long time, so like its whatever you are in no hurry because if you are you wouldn't be playing SSF.
@@rockmcdwayne1710 Sure but most people play trade and they don't have issue you are talking about. You are doing self imposed challenge so if you don't like it you don't have to do it, that is the beauty of the game. I play trade but I like to craft and sell so if linking was easy joy of crafting that perfect base on which I craft wouldn't be there also it gives items value, like there is a lot going on around it. Once you understand how to manage your currency ssf or trade everything just lines up and you start to plan around it which is part of the fun for people like me.
I'm currently running this and I gotta say I am pretty annoyed that on the second build you review you stated that he should be using "trap and mine Damage" instead of ignite prolif... So, why did you put it in your PoB? Cause I have been using this the entire time and I don't get why you would deliberately nerf the "Low budget" PoB when it's literally a GEM. Nothing could be cheaper. Please correct this!
compare your pob to mine (public profile named subtractem), look at % inc life on the tree (left side of pob) and then compare piece by piece on the gear. i have 5600 life right now and could hit 6000 if i tried a bit harder.
Getting past 4k life is really easy even with mediocre life rolls if you have any % investment on your tree. Takeaway would be you want to make sure you both have good +life (covered by your t1/2 life rolls I'd assume, also consider strength here as you get +1 life per 2 strength so a t1 strengrg roll is effectively +25-ish flat life) and good %life to scale your flat life (life nodes, jewels etc. all accomplish this - highly recommend respeccing to get your defensives online before you start investing into damage nodes if you rushed all of your damage first) Though keep in mind I haven't played the build in the video - I'm playing a boneshattwr jugg. With brass dome (removes strength bonuses - about 120 flat life lost for me) and mostly crafted life rolls I'm able to hit over 4k life without too much trouble. Also, idk how much max res you build but physical damage taken as elemental damage is really helpful in my build at least, you can double dip with eldritxh ichor + korell veiled prefix on helmets for >15% conversion just for some extra survivability that doesn't require much investment
Biggest thing I see when people can't get life is jewels. The easiest place to save money is your Jewel slots, and most people budget buy jewels without % increased Max life. If you have 4-5 jewels, and all of them have 6% life, you're looking at around 30% increased life. Of course this is additive to the increased life on your passive tree. But it should still easily add up to an extra 300-400 life at a minimum.
I really appreciate your healthy way of doing this, so many content creators are so dismissive and condescending to the player base.
"What? You haven't kept track of the 7900 facets of this build in an archetype you have never played before? Actual smooth brain lmao" -poe people.
@@skinnysnorlax1876 well if u haven't played a archetype before dnt wonder if u might hit a wall...
@@saschaberger7201 it's poe; everyone will hit a wall at some point.
My point is that this game is absurdly complex, obtuse even. Having a few details slip through the cracks is expected, and certainly not something people should be mocked for.
@@skinnysnorlax1876 well that's right I just dnt know wich creators u are speaking of that are "mocking down" on their community, basically every streamer I know off (the Bigger ones ofc) are vry nice and friendly people that try to help people
@@saschaberger7201 I have honestly mostly seen in in forums/reddit etc. Lots of tremendously unhelpful people
OMG this video helped me soooo much! I didn't realize how much Im missing out in terms of defense AND damage, really appreciate these kind of videos that really break down what's missing and how to fix it!!
Thank you so much for being so patient and attentive with your videos and your help! I hope you have fun at the wedding! :)
This is such a brilliant idea to make a video on, nice work man. 100% yoinking the general idea ;)
my 2 cents that people underview, roll your flasks - granite , jade well try to aim for t2 increase armour and evasion respectively and add the bench craft to apply "use when reach full", that aleviates the piano style pressure of flask usage and you can focus on manually dodge skills and use life flask. PSA: White flasks only need 4 bauble that you can buy on act 3/7 in the vendor for some weapon quality currency then roll your flaks.
9:03 I think it's good to mention that the added flat fire damage doesn't effect the fire trap, it should say added fire damage "to spells." The added fire damage is if you're melee attacking with the scepter. It can trip up a lot of people
If you're ever unsure hover over the gems and it should say what it is. Fire trap will have a "spell" tag so anything affecting spells will affect it
Great to see this kind of feedback on builds! I was actually around for some of these PoBs and gave some advice based on my limited game knowledge and your build guides. Both great to see which things I got right and in what areas I still have a lot to learn myself :)
I think for many people this is useful for the sole reason, they only now realised how they can and should work with PoB :D. As a newb myself, it took me a while to realise the PoB app is not just there for me to blindly follow someone elses build. It mainly exists to import my own character and play around with points to solve my current problems, to test if I'm ready to transition to different aura/skill setup, check how much I improve my damage/defense with new piece of gear etc. At this point in the game (lvl 95) I'm not buying anything from the market without importing it to my PoB first and checking what that piece actually does for me and if it's worth the price. Same goes for when I want to craft, I'm playing around with Craft of Exile and PoB to figure out what I'm aiming for and what is the minimum acceptable crafting result, that will give me what I need.
this should be the mid step, once you learn all the outcomes, you'll not use it anymore and become a build expert.
I like Death Oath build and I league started whit it for more than 5 leagues already. Now, I know every step in what to buy and when even the currency I need (ex. the impress amulet whit despair cost 3-5 divines the first days and always falls after) The same example can be applied to the unique boots from the Maven for RF build.
My build whit out that amulet is garbage so I know I need 3 divines asap for it. Then, because the chest has chaos dmg taken over time, I know I need chaos rez and life regen to sustain or else cant run the build. Another thing is the off-color of the chest. I learn on trail the easiest way to have 2g2r2b is whit crafting bench and jewelers orbs so I try to have them ready when I put the chest on.
Atributes is another pain in the a$$, especially strength, so I look for boots and belts to make up for it. Rings are also a problem as I need them magic in combination whit VIridis Veil, the Maven helm.
This are just for the start and once done move to mid-game, swap to cluster, watchers eye, good bow, and so on. Then end the game, min-max, try to add as much magic find as possible and aim for that Mageblood in the first 2 weeks. Then play another week, have some currency and find a new build to enjoy.
Many will tell you, the trial and error put in a build has immense satisfaction levels of fun and fulfillment.
Dont think what I know about Death Oath I learn it in 1 league! It tooked me 5 leagues and I'm sure I'm not 100% optimizing it even now. But even if is just a copy of someone build, just that you succeed in copying is enough, especially when you see the build working and most importantly, understanding how it works makes POE enjoyable for years to come.
Additional tipp for newer players about the "stop leveling cast when damage taken". You can right click the level up "+" symbol to make it disappear. So it wont annoy/distract you on the side of the screen.
I am always so sad, when you are going for a league starter that doesn't fit me. Cause then I have to follow another content creator and not you. After a week, when your build updates go up, I always look back and think "damn I could have gotten all the help and care of you and your community again, but instead I am lost".
Keep up the good work, you are what this community needs. ❤
Try to think about it another way though: Sub does a great job of laying out the fundamentals for building. Take that knowledge, apply it to another build. Experiment and have fun, PoE is a video game at the end of the day.
@@PharCry I totally get where you are coming from but as a dad gamer with limited time I have to say applying knowledge to a new build hasn't worked for me so far. There are just too many moving parts you have to think about. I played bane three league starts but the third time I still learned a lot of new stuff.
Awesome video. I actually learnt so much about PoB from this that I am going to go try and review my own progression with and see what I can focus on. This is great!
I can't explain how much i love your laugh..
That small, quick laugh that just says " you idiot " so perfectly well without saying it..
It's the funniest on stream, when you're discussing with someone and that laugh comes up when you think they're stupid..
If you come to Korea, be sure to experience the PC room culture. I'll even take a picture. I want to keep it as a memory.
Always interesting to hear other people's rule of thumbs when doing stuff.
I still remember a time when I could play campaign with 0 resist no problem. But that was back when there was only 4 acts. Though this did have benefit I did not have to think about gear beyond sockets for a while and do a gear up sesh once I hit maps. Just needed some move speed boots and thinks like smoke mines.
Though I don't always follow or meet my rules of thumb since most of time I play ssf because I hate trading with a passion. I strive to get close.
These are just my perspective of playing thounds of hours in ssf, also almost never using pob until I hit late red maps or above lv 90 and want to min max.
I know it not really an option in hard-core and loosing xp sucks, but Dying is ok. Of course depends on goal, but once above lv 90. I decide if I want to focus on pushing content and getting stuff or leveling. Because sometimes more progress will be lost then gained in exp when trying to do harder stuff for chance at more loot or specific kinds of loot. Eventually you can get to point of not dying as much while getting upgrades but there is a point I find in ssf I have to make this choice for a while at least.
For chaos res I do try to l3ave campaign with close to 0%, and durning whit maps work towards 25%, yellow 50% and red 75%. Though this is not a hardliners thing, if I say only get to 35% by end of yellow maps I will keep going knowing some higher tier chaos damage might hurt.
I find until about start yellow maps all in on 1 defense is fine, so armour, block, evasion, es ect... (though even a mediocre amount of a secondary and teriary one helps a ton)though some require more move speed then others to allow. But once moving to and past yellow maps, you really do need to layer the defens options.
Of course if stacking multiple defenses earlier, it will help alot and make it easier later but sometimes with what you get you need to focus on 1 more to start.
I do also hold about the same hp guide lines 300 per act, 500 per map tier(white, yellow, red). Though is always fine to get more, if syltruggleing to meet the goal, is also sometime ok to fall behind but just gotta be OK with how that changes you gameplay and may mean an extra death hear and there.
Mana Getz awkward since so many ways to balance things to work. You have amount, cost per cast, regen, recovery options, leech, eldricth battery, mana potions and so on.
I don't really have ra single rule of thumb beyond goal of trying to get to point where I don't have to pay attention to it and can use skills without worry or running out.
Jewels are very good for power
Though I do like to challenge myself to not use cluster jewels and without timeless jewels. Though these are so strong for builds. I personally prefer other league mechanics so I don't do delirium or Legion alot.
So I find ways with normal and abyss jewels and base tree.
But sometimes I get into characters and push things further which then becomes worthwhile to work on those options.
Though I have also done personal challenges of use 0 jewels and its possible to work but you rely alot more on good base gear and stuff. Jewels are easy power, bonus hp and res or so many other things it makes things harder to work with when you don't have them.
Ssf really is a different beast when it comes to planning and build progress
And you need to be alot more flexible.
Main advice is people need to get more comfortable with failing and problem solving. Sure getting advice and help can help you on how to do things, but if you don't actually understand why your doing the things for your character you'll always feel lost and struggle with how to fix things when problems arise.
You are so the best with the community! Keep it up and enjoy your break!!!
This video was really helpful! This wasn't the tankiest league starter I've ever played but it got me to T16s and both Voidstones on day 2 or 3 with less than 50 Chaos spent so in my opinion it was a great build.
I appreciate going over the so so builds. That really helps me
Thanks for keeping the tone positive when discussing the ways people get the build wrong.
Holyyy... and here I thought it was doing good!!😅 thanks for the breakdown!
This was extremely helpful! Thank you for taking the time to put this out, enjoy your vacation!
I've been watching all your videos about this build , I always get excited when I see something new on Witch coming from this channel, I felt guilty when starting with a pathfinder and I still do even now because I know that even after purchasing all the necessary items for fire trap Elementalist I will get baited into playing auto-explode totems or Impending Doom.
Helpful content as always. Some dudes got absolutely toasted but it was all for the better lol. Hope you have a blast in Korea!
Sub really has some patience, 90% of the problems in this pobs just go away if you stick to the 5 or 6 videos that Sub made for this build, it's that easy. If you have problems farming currency just do blight, it's braindead autocurrency.
Well, I wasted 44 hours on a Poison TS bait build (maybe elite players can make it work, but it was incredibly frustrating dying 6 times in a T6 map), I'm going to give this a shot. If it's anywhere near what your Bane build has been, I'll be pleased. Thank you for sharing your achievable, usable builds with us plebs.
This is my first time on this channel but I've suggested this type of video on almost every poe guide channel I go to... and here it is. 🎉🎉
Man, you're the best. I really think that a couple videos on POB would be really helpful to a lot of people, me included. There's just too much going on, I give up and just play the game. Like getting POB to tell you what's the best jewel for you that you showed on stream. Blew my mind, and I'm sure there's all kinds of other tips and tricks you could teach us.
Fine...you got me, I'll do my POE chores and audit all my gear and skill tree pathing.
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I did find that i needed to rethink this build many times throughout gear changes, i understand that newer players will not have the knowledge to do the same. This causes malice towards the creators, its scary putting a build out there, especially if other content creators put it in their top 5. The shame is peoples willingness to learn, sometimes you need to put effort in to get a result! However you've dealt with it well.
Not even running the firetrap this season, but still find this video helpful. Cheers! Have a nice wedding!
Would love to suggest my friends build, not capped on res, under par on life, minus on chaos res and using eye of malice without exposure and using the two curses but no whisper of doom or other 1+ curse.
Laughed my ass off when he started complaining that it's too squishy to map.
This is a great idea. Im also kinda stuck not knowing where to go next :D This will help.
I learned a lot from this vid. Thanks and have a good trip to Koea!
Nice, some players think that this build is like spark Ascendant or even Guardian years ago. Where you can tank Maven Memory game and Sirus Storms. But it a bit more complicated.
I would be able to tank memory game even last league with RF/FT Jugg with Vaal Molten Shell on. But this was like 3-4 mirror build. This build is not for face tanking but I like it so far)
Ah I didn't realise you could min max the rolls by swapping back and forth with harvest, great tip cheers.
I'm not even playing the build but I found this video very helpful and educating
Always helpful and grounded, you contribute so much to your community and anyone still learning the game! Have an amazing time at the wedding!
Hey Subtractem and people in comments, hope you are having fun in Korea. Now on to my question :D
I started playing again this league and I'm kind of lost about defenses(ok now I learned about chaos and will work on that one), I'm playing build with similar tree which is EA ballista elementalist and I think I got all fundamentals of build down except auras and defense against Bosses and especially ubers. Right now I'm using Lightning coil and general phys to elemental conversion on gear + taste of hate which is solid against hits, suppression is capped and 57k effective HP if I fix chaos resists so from 44k to 60k and evasion rating of 30k. My Auras are grace, purity of elements and defiance banner(and precision which I plan on dropping when I get more acc on gear), this set up seems fine for mapping. I also use Immortal call CWDT as well.
But what I can't figure out is how to move my defense to next level which is to help me a bit with Uber bosses and bosses in general. I don't want to just boost DPS and call it a day.
I tried doing uber exarch 3 times and lost all portals each time, I get insta gibed by mortar, his minion's slam, and ball phase(getting blink arrow might help in addition to flame dash). I burn my life flasks so fast and shit on the ground is really hard to avoid when everything is coming at you at once.
So I'm clearly missing some vital information here. what piqued my interest is that I heard in video that grace does nothing on bosses, and I see lots of people running determination and molten shell, and I see immortal cry with some endurance charges. So I would love to know what are my options since right now I'm not sure that things I mentioned are even enough or how they work in practice/math. I could use some pointers on this. PoB for reference: pobb.in/nJngYmgp8RB5
Things I know that can help is getting blink arrow for extra mobility,flask refill pantheon and flask mastery. And maybe craft charge recovery on slow life flask, since even if I survive hit I'm running on fumes.
Any input is apricated thanks
Enjoy the wedding man, korea sounds awesome
55% movespeed on preview 😂 feels bad about owner
Have a great time in Korea! Are they still playing Starcraft over there?
With the rise of the Totem dealing 600% phys damage shinanigans I'm currently trying to figure out if I can salvage the Fire Trap Build into this.
Learned alot watching this as my biggest issue is upgrading gear
I learned a lot from this. I hope I can improve my build to be more defensive with the new knowledge. I know you removed my old comment before I could answer, idk if you felt I was being rude but it wasn't my intention. I still appreciate the effort you put into your videos, barely anyone I know helps people so much. I'm just having a hard time with all the new crafting and league mechanics that's all. I hope you have a good time in vacation!
I remove very few comments, it's almost always just TH-cam auto moderation.
Thanks for the reminder to look at the gems, time to upgrade all to 20 qual and maybe get some alt quals
Entered maps for the first time this season this video is invaluable for me thanks
Speaks for the build, though, that these guys made it to yellow/red maps.
feels difficult to get 5k life and 100%supression and full res on everything because gear that has all those attributes are so expensive. (was looking on a plate for 15 divs)
The last guy was actually playing on ruthless.
Watching each video and following along.. It's a bit difficult. The difference in damage is too great. Please, or should I go to you since you say you are coming to Korea? Hahaha Here is Seoul, Korea. POB is not going up. It is >시련_여름동안< in Ninja
Have fun abroad & thank you for helping out these people. :)
Awesome! This vid surely will help me. Will you do a second video like that? Maybe you could look at my PoB
I'm sure this was said a million times, but what curses are we applying? I have fire exposure on hit with my gloves, then we are casting flammability? Is this the 2 curses? I just want to make sure I am not missing something, which seems like a huge mistake if I am. Is a curse on hit ring the goal, so we don't have to cast flammability? Also, if we have the gloves like I do, we obviously don't need to use wave of conviction right?
Elemental weakness is the second curse after you anoint whispers of doom. Once you have the glove implicit you can drop wave of conviction.
@@subtractem So we drop flammability for elemental weakness? Just want to be clear haha, sorry.
Whispers of doom let's you use two curses
@@subtractem my bad, I watched back and saw what you do in one of your vids on it. I thought the exposure would count as a curse but it clearly doesn't. Still learning over here haha
Hearing “searing touch is only a 5c item, just pick one up” hurts when you play SSF 😅
Same with eye of malice. 72 hours played and haven’t dropped either 😂
LOL so I'm in good company 😂
@@seapeajones it’s rough out here. At least if you get exposure on your gloves, have decent sceptres and +1 to fire gems somewhere, you’ll still kill almost everything in the game
Nice work on the video!
Might have been asked elsewhere but hows the SSF viability? Ive watched most of the guides a d some streams and its all based around budget. If were happy to farm our essences and fossils and spend time crafting, can we expect to confortably do most content? Or are there really important build enabling ubiques?
You don't need anything specific, everything is easy craftable
@@CoinFlipAhri it did look like that to be fair. And my sc trade char had like 3 eye of malice drop so that must be in the common unique pool. Gotta decide between this and RF but leaning towards this.
Hardcore Andy actually having more then 4k life and more than -60 chaos res lmao
Can I switch to Eye of Malice before getting whispers of doom or do I need that first? I have fire exposure on hit on my gloves.
You don't need it, but it does help a lot.
thank you man, youre actually THE GOAT!!!!!
Why am I not getting any drop down options in PoB except for past gear i've had. Is there anything I need to configure before I get those options
The different worlds PoE players can be in is crazy. Just a couple dozen chaos for this or that -- I've never spent that much on anything. I've barely had that much. But I'm a very casual player, only about 3/4 of my life is used on poe
do u think that is a good idea ？+5 fire spell gems staff with craft fire spell damage and fire dot ，cos 2 +2 one hand weapon need far more div than 20
What could cause immortal call to not apply in PoB? I use the lvl 1 cwdt/level 3 immortal call setup and it works in game but PoB refuses to update my damage reduction. In calculations the multiplier is just not there.
4th build! he says that gear is trash, and you should never be wearing it im looking at it on a hc ruthless prospective I'm thinking hmmm!!! that horror jack crypt amour looks pretty damn good right about now!
this was basically 20 minutes of personal attacks....
These are the people that I imagine try to run t16s and then complain on reddit
Not these people in particular, it's very respectable that they submit their build to be reviewed/improved, but I'm talking about people with 3k life -60% chaos res and 900k dps doing red maps and complaining about rares being hard to kill. Homies you can quintuple your dps for almost free..
Luv the vids, enjoy the wedding, hasta...
sorry im late... how the hell am I supposed to use divine blessing with Malevolence when it costs 400+ mana to cast? i have 53 available with auras on, so wtf...?
you gotta use eldritch battery :>
Oh wow sunk over 5k hours in PoE and never knew that about cwdt lvl 1 XD you learn new things everyday
Did you do this for bone shatters? Gotta look I guess.
I haven't. I'm not familiar with that build.
@@subtractem Honestly I think the POB style of criticism that you're doing here let's people know a whole hell of a lot in a very small amount of time. For everybody.
On almost no build have I ever gone for more than 0ish chaos res.
There's really not too many heavy hitting burst chaos hits. It's almost all dots, which not standing in the pool of poison, or popping an HP pot can fix
you really cant do that anymore. honestly ever since incursion league chaos damage is much higher, sirus is a lot of chaos damage, and even this league they added more phys as chaos and wither against you.
Yeah, you also get withered as a map mod now and so many more chaos damage sources so you will die.
O.o I haven't seen any issues yet. The only real threatening chaos guy is the Hunter and for him I just put on the CoD helm for 60% chaos res and then remove it after
need help, are lightning trap and lightning mine not spell ? stacking spell damage wont help ? also does spell crit work with mine and trap ?
They are spells and inherit your crit yes. You can check this by changing your items in pob and seeing how it changes your selected skill on the left.
Build was kinda a miss for me. Got to 100 spell suppression easily. With my small es and hp, I was over 5k. I wasn't chaos capped, but definitely nowhere near negative. The issue was armor, and at least for my preference, not enough life.
Offensively, I definitely could've gotten a skin of lords and an empower and gotten more DMG. Didn't want to invest when I knew I wasn't going to be happy with the defensives, so I saved up some money and am rerolling as we speak. Not a witch this time lol.
Witch will never be "tanky", but it's easy to survive most things if you don't just stand around too long. It's certainly a build that can do all content, but with some focus on play style.
@@DeedlyDood idk. I played a witch last league that had like 8k es. Pretty tanky. Then several leagues ago I played low life one that was like 80 something pct max else resists with 30 or 40k armor. That one was kinda expensive though. Melding of flesh and aegis aurora. The difference is just philosophy. Most DMG comes from gem levels, so the entire tree can be used for defense.
Damn I thought I was the last one, oh well. The cwdt level is certainly one I missed I'll be trying that out thanks!
I look at the dps and ehp on these and they are way higher than mine and are getting roasted. I wonder how bad my build is then
Increadibly usefull !
before watching i hope the advice isnt just going to be "get more chaos res" and actually some insight on acquiring the gear in the content available to them
Wonderful person -> subtractem❤
I really reallllyyyyy need tutorial how to craft that armour of yours.
It's explained in the last update video, quite simple, made one yesterday
Fractured base. Pristine dense faceted fossil, fill suffixes, wild bristle matron, veiled chaos orb, craft block attacks, unveil.
@@subtractem The unveil failed on my first attempt (No life/mana%, veiled chaos also filled the 3rd prefix with a bad mod along with the veiled one so I couldn't block anything before unveiling, did I do something wrong here? And even if you can block one mod I believe it's still not 100% guaranteed to unveil life?).
I think it can be fixed with eldritch annul prefix and then wild bristle matron, veiled chaos again. Would that be right? Thanks for all the updates, been really helpful.
One thing I still don't know when crafting is how to figure out what (crafted) mod blocks what exactly. I know it's supposed to be "mod groups" but the tags don't explain it and I can't find a good source on this.
thx for the update and review. HF in korea
hey @subtractem nice content!
i started 3 days ago with my first poe character ever and i decided to copy your build =)
but i lack so much knowledge this video is soulfood for me
Hey, Eldritch Battery is available this league as a mod from the crucible mechanic. I checked and today they are just under 3 divines for a base. If you need to save for that then try to follow along with one of his early league build updates until you can make the switch. I think up to day 3 this build doesn't EB yet👍
@@OldNito ok i understand that
Hey, i now using eldrich battery, but can you explain me please , how to use malevolence with vitality, haste and determination. Malevolence cots me about 400 mana / 45 life with divine Blessing lvl 1,vitality at lvl 20 about 233,. Now, i can use vitality only 7 lvl. Thanks a lot
level 20 vitality costs 142 mana, you should have no issues running it since you turned off clarity with EB, malevolence doesn't cost mana, it uses energy shield, so you should just have over 400 ES to use it
@@CoinFlipAhri what makes malevolence use ES I cant find it anywhere in the pob or the items.
@@busa eldritch battery makes your skills cost es, best way is to have it on crucible tree, as sub does as well
Your build guide and POBs have ignite proliferation, why would you have them if it is wrong gem- enjoy your guides but I have noticed little details like this throughout.
Even though I'm not fire trap I learned a lot
Have a fun trip to Korea! 😘
I'm 98 and I don't have 4500+ life. But I do have ten thousand energy shield.
tl;dr: searing touch!
Ive been playing it and it has been great dude! Keep up with the good work!
I learned a lot.
Subscribed and liked.
North Koreans are so Chill, every time I phone my mate there and ask how he is, he always says "ah ya know I can't complain"
I can literally dump 60 divine in a build, end up with 3k health, no chaos res, and 1 element res not capped. 😅🤣 lol I'm miserable at min maxing my items and gear.
you can dump an infinite amount into any build and end up with sub-optimal gear if you're not getting the right stuff.
I generally love the game but, there are things that make it nightmarish to upgrade your gear... that thing being those goddamn LINKED SOCKETS! Even if i run accross better armour or weapon than what i got equiped, if the socket colours or the number of linked sockets dont match its unusable item!!!!!!
Trying to six link a new weapon or chest armour that is slightly better than what you got stat wise, will get you bankrupt real fast or you cant afford it to begin with. I think its a MAJOR FLAW in the game!
Yep you are right about that. Poe 2 is changing that though, hopefully don't have to wait much longer.
I know where you are coming from but if you put your self in mindset that only gear worth linking is worth wearing, meaning that you will save up fusings until you find some really good stuff, then you are going to have much better time. At first your only priority is getting the links to put your gems in since that is where most of you dmg scaling is going to come from early so getting links and anything extra is just bonus, like life/resists on chest or some attack speed/damage on weapon base you need.
So before you get to a point when you want to spend your fusings first you might want to farm divination cards like famous porcupine(6link short bow) or chains that bind(random 6 link chest), now that you have that you can slam some essences on it and that's your body armor/weapon for foreseeable future and you can upgrade rest of your gear until you farm enough currency for crafting. Good upgrades are rarely going to come from ground or just found because crafting is that powerful and as such you will craft items from bottom up.
This means that you will try to get High quality on them(like 25%+ with fossils or some other method) and this will make linking so much easier, get your socket colors ready if you have off colours like blues on strength base then link(jeweler tricking/chrome recipe), once base is done then you start crafting on it. Now this is all for SSF(Solo self found) and if you chose to play this way that is extra challenge you seek. There are many ways to go about things and that is where a lot of fun is.
You can skip this on trade league by just buying stuff from other people very cheaply and skip the pain. Also you will have a lot of currency to burn so learning to craft in trade is great.
So like it really isn't that big of a deal, linking and coloring 4 sockets is effortless, so only real pain point I can think of is 6 linking unique items which are build enabling but even then you can run on 5 links fine for a long time, so like its whatever you are in no hurry because if you are you wouldn't be playing SSF.
@@MarkoLomovic I see your point but, I don't see this as a healthy aspect of the game for most players, only for a select few.
@@rockmcdwayne1710 Sure but most people play trade and they don't have issue you are talking about. You are doing self imposed challenge so if you don't like it you don't have to do it, that is the beauty of the game.
I play trade but I like to craft and sell so if linking was easy joy of crafting that perfect base on which I craft wouldn't be there also it gives items value, like there is a lot going on around it.
Once you understand how to manage your currency ssf or trade everything just lines up and you start to plan around it which is part of the fun for people like me.
I have rf juggy. Why many say i need life tap for swift affliction but ur fire trap links dont have it
You mean for RF right? Started it as well and it was explained to me that RF works with swift affliction only when also using lifetap
because righteous fire doesn't have the duration tag required by swift affliction, which is added by lifetap.
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I'm currently running this and I gotta say I am pretty annoyed that on the second build you review you stated that he should be using "trap and mine Damage" instead of ignite prolif... So, why did you put it in your PoB? Cause I have been using this the entire time and I don't get why you would deliberately nerf the "Low budget" PoB when it's literally a GEM. Nothing could be cheaper. Please correct this!
best poe teacher ever
I only play SSF, trade league is for softies
No one asked lmao
I'll never understand.
I can't get life past 4k for the life of me, despite all of my non-uniques having t1/t2 life... it makes no sense
compare your pob to mine (public profile named subtractem), look at % inc life on the tree (left side of pob) and then compare piece by piece on the gear. i have 5600 life right now and could hit 6000 if i tried a bit harder.
Getting past 4k life is really easy even with mediocre life rolls if you have any % investment on your tree. Takeaway would be you want to make sure you both have good +life (covered by your t1/2 life rolls I'd assume, also consider strength here as you get +1 life per 2 strength so a t1 strengrg roll is effectively +25-ish flat life) and good %life to scale your flat life (life nodes, jewels etc. all accomplish this - highly recommend respeccing to get your defensives online before you start investing into damage nodes if you rushed all of your damage first)
Though keep in mind I haven't played the build in the video - I'm playing a boneshattwr jugg. With brass dome (removes strength bonuses - about 120 flat life lost for me) and mostly crafted life rolls I'm able to hit over 4k life without too much trouble.
Also, idk how much max res you build but physical damage taken as elemental damage is really helpful in my build at least, you can double dip with eldritxh ichor + korell veiled prefix on helmets for >15% conversion just for some extra survivability that doesn't require much investment
Biggest thing I see when people can't get life is jewels. The easiest place to save money is your Jewel slots, and most people budget buy jewels without % increased Max life. If you have 4-5 jewels, and all of them have 6% life, you're looking at around 30% increased life. Of course this is additive to the increased life on your passive tree. But it should still easily add up to an extra 300-400 life at a minimum.
@@subtractem thank you. I was just writing a late night depression comment to be lost in the mix but now my build is feeling a lot better.
@@TheArnoldification thank you
Now, when you say Korea....that is South Korea, right?
is subtractem trans?