I've had a few steyrs in the past. Still have one in 357 sig. As soon as I see a new style Steyr in person, it will come home with me. Thanks again for another great video and putting so much time into giving your audience good content.
Archon. Several thousand rounds with no firearm related failures (ammo is a different story, but not the guns fault). Feels like cheating when dinging steel, and carry it with absolute confidence any day of the week.
I agree... The Archon is something special. Over 3k round without a single failure to feed or fire. Most natural poining gun I have ever owned. Very fast ,flat shooting and one of the most accurate guns. For fun I shot it in my bullseye league with very good results. It surprised everyone on the line.Just A lot of fun to shoot.... Can't compare price. Archon is a tiny company that has very limited production just a few thousand a year. Both good choice. Good review, Thanks
Of all the guns mentioned, the Steyr is the only one available in multiple sizes and calibers. I’m not interested in 9mm or the idealization of the Glock 19 concept.
I'd love to see if the Archon could dethrone the almighty CZ P10c in your "If I could only have one" series. Pretty sure the CZ is undefeated thus far. Make it happen, KS!
What a nikname - archon💩 This is Russian gun - Стриж (Streezh) This gun has been build 10 years ago. This awesome RU gun didn’t win contract for RU military (факин corruption) To get US market developer of it place it manufacturing in Italy . Bc no Russian made guns allowed here.
Archon Type B is a Russian Strizh. It is branded off Italy so it can make it to the US market, the Russian guns are not allowed to be imported, yet. A nice shooter, more expensive than Steyer M9A1/2. The price difference makes it a decision for many which to buy.
I own a Walther PPQ M2 Navy, Steyr M9-A1, and a CZ-P10c and all are fantastic! I have never shot an Archon Type B but I have heard great things. I always go back and forth with which of my Wonder 9's I like the most. Currently it is the CZ P10c and very recently it was my Steyr M9-A1. I have only had a few malfunctions with my PPQ which were definitely magazine related and have over 3200 rounds through it. With over 1250 rounds through my P10c I have only had one single malfunction and zero malfunctions with my Steyr which has only approximately 850 rounds through it so far. All three are extremely accurate, ergonomic, and reliable. I was hoping to buy a Laugo Arms Alien but with a price tag of $3500 and up I may have to look more at getting an Archon Type B.
Good video! I have owned both the arsenal strike one and the original M40. Both are well made and have less muzzle flip than their glock counter parts. Both should be great combat/competition guns if it weren’t for one thing......speed reloads! The magwell opening on the steyr is worst on any polymer handgun that I have ever shot. The archon should have a excellent magwell if its anything like the strike one, but again they put huge base plates on the magazines making speed loads unnecessarily cumbersome. Other than that these are two are the best shooting polymer guns I have ever owned.
I 100% agree about the lack of magwell in the Steyr. It’s one of my biggest complaints with it. The Archon is significantly better. I haven’t had an issue with the baseplates. Thank you and cheers!
Steyr for me. Durability, reliability, ergonomics that make it feel as natural in your hand as if you were born with it. And those sights!! The trapezoid sights are odd, but once you figure it out it’s hard to go back. I shoot that gun better than any other I own except my CZ P10F. However if I could have only one it would be Steyr
Great videos!! Again, I have both of these and while the Stey’s was one of my first guns and I am loyal to it the Type B is as close to shooting my Alien as you can get without an intellectual property lawsuit. It is wonderful.
But how can you see if the gun is cocked on the Stryk b? If you fire or cock the gun there is absolutely no difference on the trigger and also not external whise. On a Glock, the trigger stays back after firing and goes forward if you cock the gun. Also you can feel if a bullet is in the chamber, because the extractor goes a bit out. On the Stryk b, there are 0 visible details if the gun is cocked and if there is a bullet in the chamber. You can't see if the trigger is cocked, it goes all the time forward and does not stay back like on a Glock. From a safety point, I don't think the gun is really safe. At least the trigger should stay back like on a Glock, after firing. Have you recognized that?
Thanks for the excellent unbiased review as always. I think the non tilting barrel would certainly contribute to the flat shooting and accuracy on the Archon. That Beaver tail is incredible and part of what attracted me to the Steyr. But Archon seems to take the cake with innovation. Only hard pill for me is the price. Cannot see myself paying that much for it. I would certainly consider it around 5 bills. Perhaps some time in the future 😀
The Archon is definitely worth looking into, though I agree that it’s on the pricey end. Once you start shooting, the price tag seems to melt away. Thank you and cheers Nick!
I ordered the Archon with Rain6's initial buy when it was announced which was $779 and I did not hesitate since I wanted a Stryke One and missed out on getting one when they were going for a lot less than they are selling for now. After waiting 2 years to get it. I love the way it shoots. If you are someone that likes to change things on a gun this has everything you need. If you don't but would like to get one that shoots really good out of the box this is for you. I'm very happy with this decision and would buy a second one in a heartbeat. I'd love to see a compact version. There will be with with a shorter frame kind of like a grip chop. Check out Standardcousa's IG page.
I own the larger Steyr L9 A1 and it is among my favorite pistols I've ever owned which have been many... I love the the overall feel and angle of the grip along with the trapezoid sights, although many people do not... I don't care for the reset which you can barely hear or feel... If the trigger reset had more of a Glock like feel it would go a long way to improving how many people feel about this pistol... Price-wise the Archon seems to be at least $300 more than the Steyer which does not sit well in my book.
I would love to try an L at some point! It’s on the bucket list. I completely agree about the reset. Not needed but many would appreciate it being more present. The Archon is definitely pricey but it’s an unbelievable shooter. Thank you and cheers Doc!
KSGunGuy no man, the color of the material is the same, so is the area of contrasting lines. Take a closer look next time you find one next to a dumpster.
Wahoo!! I agree!! Archon for the win!! As someone who has owned both and shot many rounds through both (sold the Steyr) I agree. Both great but for me and my money, I prefer the Archon Type B.
I love watching these “If I could only have one” series. Like you said I don’t think you could go wrong with either of these firearms, But I probably would have chosen the Archon the same as you did just based on aesthetics alone. I just can’t get passed the looks of the Steyr something about it I just don’t like, and I’m sure if 1776 or Bust reads my comment I will catch some flak lol. Anyway you really shot great groupings with both pistols and I hope someday I will get my hands on the Archon Type B to take for a test drive.
Great video, I figured the type b would win but fun to watch. Does the type b have the best trigger for a polymer striker gun, nope, but still awesome nonetheless
Ohhhhhh tough choice you’ve presented there! I love both guns, but have a Steyr already, and it is *still* a fantastic choice for its price point and dependability. However I have been following the handgun with different names, such as the Strike One (in the country of it’s origin, Russia), Arsenal’s version: the Stryk B, and now the Archon Type B. Great video as always KS!
Been shooting both the Archon type B and Steyr M9 and L9 together alot lately. They are great. I can still perform better with Steyr doing timed drills cuz of the awesome sights on it. The recoil/muzzle rise/muzzle dip feel the exact same to me. Gonna stick with Steyr. And have pre ordered the M9 A2. But the Archon is right there with it. Cant go wrong with any of them.
The webbing that pushes on your tendon works the same way a doctor checks your reflexes and you move your leg when your knee is tapped. It causes you to squeeze the gun tighter when it recoil into your hand.
Cool comparison and dig the fact the one is suppressor ready for you folks....I think 1776 really likes Steyr but I could be wrong....Good info....Good stuff....
That ridged up under the beaver tail is probably to reinforce the polymer that makes up the beaver tail. Looks like without it, it would be too thin and archon would be having to replace frames.
I just got my Steyr for $357 + $15 shipping (on two guns). I coulda gotten a p10c suppressor ready for $382. I think I’d take them two for the same price as the archon b. Honest outlaw seemed to have issues with his, not saying all of them have these issues.
KsGunGuy I like almost all of your comparison videos but you're comparing pistols in two TOTALLY different price categories. Search yourself. Internet prices are still $850 on the archon. Almost double what the steyer m9 is going for. Two extra mags doesn't come close to making up the difference. Compare the archon with $800+ pistols next time to keep things fair and so we can see what the same money gets us. Why are so many people dismissing the price of the archon?
Price does not inhibit two guns from being featured. It's the whole premise that I clearly talk about in the intro of literally every episode. two guns, whether similar, or in some cases VERY different. Oh, and I talk about the price of the two in the summary. You maybe missed that? Cheers!
Tough choice, but something about the Archon Type B screams at me! Like the Steyr sights but Archon Type B would be my choice. Great content-Thanks.....
I'll be critical but not hateful. 1. Wish you would have broken them apart. You talked about it long enough that you could have done it. But you want me to go click on your other video.. click bait much? 2. You picked the wrong gun. I believe you said its "cool" lol. I'd go with the Styer of course. 3. Good luck buddy :-)
This was a very good comparison between two awesome Firearms. I’d have to pick the Type B over the A1. Love that trigger and grip! Thanks for sharing as always Bud.
Cool trick to reverse the mag release, just insert the mag backwards and the mag release pops out then insert it to the other side and drop the mag. Kinda neat.
On the Type B, the trigger itself is the "safety dingus", that's why it tilts before being pushed back. So the sponginess is really no different than just the normal trigger tab take up.
Another great presentation KS. I don't have experience with either one, but I would go with the Steyr mainly because 1776 just raves about it. Have a great weekend.
Great... yet another gun to acquire. Lol! Great video KS. I have a Steyr and like it a lot but knew nothing about the Archon. It looks fantastic though. I think I’m going to put it on my list of guns to buy!
Haha! You can never have too many Eric. They Steyr is awesome and I recommend checking out an Archon if you get the chance. Thank you and cheers brother!
Dremel tools & files are required to be a gun guy. I knew how this one would end before I even started PS - You're not a righty, you're a wrongy! Southpaws rule! 😇
I've yet to shoot the Archon but it has always peaked my interest it is rather unique for sure. I have shot the Steyr and have to say that it is probably one of my favorite firearms to date only because of the sight picture and the trigger. The ergos are slightly weird at first but a couple hundred rounds and it is simply amazing. I did get an opportunity to check out the new texture at a show not too long ago and have to say that it is right there with the M&P 2.0 texture but with the customization capability of a VP9, which I welcome with open arms. I love the VP9 for its different grip panel and backstrap options it allows for endless combinations that allows the user to really dial in their grip profile. So the new Steyr being similarly designed is wonderful. On the VP9 i run the medium backstrap with the large right palm swell and the small on the left it fits my hand amazing and the New Steyr although I didn't get to play around with the panels is offering a similar package feature. The new model does have a flared magwell and some different texturing on the frame as an indexing point for thumb of support hand and trigger finger that is rather unique and I felt the trigger has been improved upon as well so me and my budget are saying Steyr that is not to say that an Archon won't eventually make its way into the stable but my financial portfolio needs to improve some first.
Right on! I am very excited to try out the new Steyr whenever it happens to appear in my area. The grip customization is a welcome addition for sure. Thank you and cheers Coiler!
I personally shoot the Steyr more accurately than the Archon. The Archon is nice but the Steyr M9A1 fits my polar bear claws very well. I am a little nervous about the Steyr A2 MF though. Looks like they changed the grip a bit.
Never shot the archon and so own a Steyr c9. Having put close to 6k rounds through it with only one light primer strike. Price is incredible and it super comfortable. Yes the lack of reset isn’t there but the trigger is smooth as glass. I am curious about the archons trigger being metal generating to much heat into your finger. Unfortunately looks ain’t everyone and the price tag is just a deal breaker regardless if it comes with two extra. I can only contest from what I know about the Steyr. It’s crazy reliable and just a gun you can shoot all day wanting more
@@KSGunGuy01 According to all the reviews of the Steyr A2 MF, the reasons you choose the Archon Type B would be negated. If you ever get a chance to review the A2, I love to see a "Steyr L9 A2 MF vs Archon Tyoe B - If I Could Only have One..." video. Maybe you change your mind, maybe you'll change mine. In any case, I'll be watching your videos from now on. Now, if only Steyr would ship more of them. Every store is out of stock.
I agree that the Archon needs more time on the market to gauge reliability. I do seem to remember Steyr going through some reliability issues as well. That said, the Gen 4 Steyr is awesome. Thank you and cheers!
The steyr had many issues through 2 generations, I had one of them, unfortunately. Watch Mac's channel. The Archon went further through the gauntlet than ANY other gun. Dont rule the Archon out. Its loaded from the factory. No xtra $$$ customizing necessary.
Go look at reliability test for the type B it's right there with glock. There are plenty of guys putting it through its paces. Military arms channel does the gauntlet. That will pretty much take away any concern you may have.
I've had a few steyrs in the past. Still have one in 357 sig. As soon as I see a new style Steyr in person, it will come home with me. Thanks again for another great video and putting so much time into giving your audience good content.
I agree about the new Steyr B! Can’t wait to try one out. Thank you and cheers as always!
b ach....L9 A1 vs Glock 17?
I’ve shot a 17, but never shot a Steyr.
Just interested in your thoughts?
b ach I want the L9 A2 so bad I can taste it! Lol
Breaking news, steyer M9 A2.
Wheeeeeen
I would take the new Steyr A2 MF over The Archon B(nowadays)
No comparison Steyr rocks!
never shot either sir, but By the looks of them I think I would like the Archon
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
Archon. Several thousand rounds with no firearm related failures (ammo is a different story, but not the guns fault). Feels like cheating when dinging steel, and carry it with absolute confidence any day of the week.
The archon is sexy. Wish it was 1-200 dollars cheaper lol
I agree... The Archon is something special. Over 3k round without a single failure to feed or fire. Most natural poining gun I have ever owned. Very fast ,flat shooting and one of the most accurate guns. For fun I shot it in my bullseye league with very good results. It surprised everyone on the line.Just A lot of fun to shoot.... Can't compare price. Archon is a tiny company that has very limited production just a few thousand a year. Both good choice. Good review, Thanks
Very well said! That’s awesome that it did well in the bullseye league. Thank you and cheers!
Of all the guns mentioned, the Steyr is the only one available in multiple sizes and calibers. I’m not interested in 9mm or the idealization of the Glock 19 concept.
Steyr like many have dropped all but 9mm in the new model, same reason I haven't bought one either, I own no 9mm's.
I'd love to see if the Archon could dethrone the almighty CZ P10c in your "If I could only have one" series. Pretty sure the CZ is undefeated thus far. Make it happen, KS!
Michael DiMaria I’d actually like to see that one myself. I have owned and shot the CZ P10c and it is an amazing shooter for sure.
That would be an awesome video! Thank you and cheers Michael!
Shek Jesus 😉😂
Haha!! True
The undefeated handgun Is still the mighty Glock 19!
What a nikname - archon💩
This is Russian gun - Стриж (Streezh)
This gun has been build 10 years ago. This awesome RU gun didn’t win contract for RU military (факин corruption)
To get US market developer of it place it manufacturing in Italy . Bc no Russian made guns allowed here.
So..... Bye the steyer and 5 magazines for the same price. And go trapezoidal crazy
Haha!! Right on Kevin. Thank you and cheers brother!
Archon Type B is a Russian Strizh. It is branded off Italy so it can make it to the US market, the Russian guns are not allowed to be imported, yet. A nice shooter, more expensive than Steyer M9A1/2. The price difference makes it a decision for many which to buy.
I’ll take the Steyr all day!! Excellent pistol 🇱🇷 But I’m particular.....
For the price of one Type B, I can almost have 2 Stey5 pistols. Maybe in time they will come down.
I own a Walther PPQ M2 Navy, Steyr M9-A1, and a CZ-P10c and all are fantastic! I have never shot an Archon Type B but I have heard great things. I always go back and forth with which of my Wonder 9's I like the most. Currently it is the CZ P10c and very recently it was my Steyr M9-A1. I have only had a few malfunctions with my PPQ which were definitely magazine related and have over 3200 rounds through it. With over 1250 rounds through my P10c I have only had one single malfunction and zero malfunctions with my Steyr which has only approximately 850 rounds through it so far. All three are extremely accurate, ergonomic, and reliable. I was hoping to buy a Laugo Arms Alien but with a price tag of $3500 and up I may have to look more at getting an Archon Type B.
All are great guns indeed! You've got a great collection going for sure. Thank you and cheers!
Great choice. I have both, but the Archon is awesome! It’s my edc.
Feels like watching "Highlander"
"THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!"
Heck yeah! Thank you and cheers!
Tough choice on that one for sure, KS! Nice review & comparison... Keep them coming! 😎✌️
Thank you very much Glockoholic! I agree about it being a tough choice. Cheers brother!
Nice Review Brother, Thanks For Sharing! Carry on
Thank you Big J! Cheers brother!
Thanks for doing the comparison. I can't disagree since I've never handled the Archon. Of course I'm a Steyr guy though. 👍🏾
Both are awesome indeed Q! That Steyr is tough to beat but the Archon just speaks to me. Thank you and cheers!
Good video! I have owned both the arsenal strike one and the original M40.
Both are well made and have less muzzle flip than their glock counter parts. Both should be great combat/competition guns if it weren’t for one thing......speed reloads! The magwell opening on the steyr is worst on any polymer handgun that I have ever shot. The archon should have a excellent magwell if its anything like the strike one, but again they put huge base plates on the magazines making speed loads unnecessarily cumbersome. Other than that these are two are the best shooting polymer guns I have ever owned.
I 100% agree about the lack of magwell in the Steyr. It’s one of my biggest complaints with it. The Archon is significantly better. I haven’t had an issue with the baseplates. Thank you and cheers!
Just bought a Archon Type B for $749. Haven't shot it yet, but my Steyr M9 and S9 are going nowhere.
You will love it! Thank you and cheers!
Steyr for me. Durability, reliability, ergonomics that make it feel as natural in your hand as if you were born with it. And those sights!! The trapezoid sights are odd, but once you figure it out it’s hard to go back.
I shoot that gun better than any other I own except my CZ P10F.
However if I could have only one it would be Steyr
Today my new Steyr A2 MF come to the store. Been waiting since last November - 10 months!
Great videos!! Again, I have both of these and while the Stey’s was one of my first guns and I am loyal to it the Type B is as close to shooting my Alien as you can get without an intellectual property lawsuit. It is wonderful.
But how can you see if the gun is cocked on the Stryk b?
If you fire or cock the gun there is absolutely no difference on the trigger and also not external whise.
On a Glock, the trigger stays back after firing and goes forward if you cock the gun.
Also you can feel if a bullet is in the chamber, because the extractor goes a bit out.
On the Stryk b, there are 0 visible details if the gun is cocked and if there is a bullet in the chamber.
You can't see if the trigger is cocked, it goes all the time forward and does not stay back like on a Glock.
From a safety point, I don't think the gun is really safe.
At least the trigger should stay back like on a Glock, after firing.
Have you recognized that?
Excellent informative report..Thanks !
Nice comparison. Unfortunately still cannot find these firearms to check them out.
Hopefully you’ll be able to find them soon Keanon! Thank you and cheers brother!
Thanks for the excellent unbiased review as always. I think the non tilting barrel would certainly contribute to the flat shooting and accuracy on the Archon. That Beaver tail is incredible and part of what attracted me to the Steyr. But Archon seems to take the cake with innovation. Only hard pill for me is the price. Cannot see myself paying that much for it. I would certainly consider it around 5 bills. Perhaps some time in the future 😀
The Archon is definitely worth looking into, though I agree that it’s on the pricey end. Once you start shooting, the price tag seems to melt away. Thank you and cheers Nick!
I ordered the Archon with Rain6's initial buy when it was announced which was $779 and I did not hesitate since I wanted a Stryke One and missed out on getting one when they were going for a lot less than they are selling for now. After waiting 2 years to get it. I love the way it shoots. If you are someone that likes to change things on a gun this has everything you need. If you don't but would like to get one that shoots really good out of the box this is for you. I'm very happy with this decision and would buy a second one in a heartbeat. I'd love to see a compact version. There will be with with a shorter frame kind of like a grip chop. Check out Standardcousa's IG page.
I own the larger Steyr L9 A1 and it is among my favorite pistols I've ever owned which have been many... I love the the overall feel and angle of the grip along with the trapezoid sights, although many people do not... I don't care for the reset which you can barely hear or feel... If the trigger reset had more of a Glock like feel it would go a long way to improving how many people feel about this pistol... Price-wise the Archon seems to be at least $300 more than the Steyer which does not sit well in my book.
I would love to try an L at some point! It’s on the bucket list. I completely agree about the reset. Not needed but many would appreciate it being more present. The Archon is definitely pricey but it’s an unbelievable shooter. Thank you and cheers Doc!
The Archon is slippery. And the word phonetically sounds like “thank you” in Mongolian is it ?!
The Steyr looks like a HiPoint that won the lottery and could finally afford cosmetic surgery.
You've clearly never seen a Hi Point, lol.
KSGunGuy no man, the color of the material is the same, so is the area of contrasting lines. Take a closer look next time you find one next to a dumpster.
Lol. Sure
Wahoo!! I agree!! Archon for the win!! As someone who has owned both and shot many rounds through both (sold the Steyr) I agree. Both great but for me and my money, I prefer the Archon Type B.
Right on! I do agree. The Archon is a real experience to shoot. Thank you and cheers!
You bring something different. Subbed!
Nice review...Got my heart set on a Steyr-L9-A1, but the A2's are coming and I have to check them out before I leap..
Thank you! Those A2 versions look sweet indeed. Cheers!
I love watching these “If I could only have one” series. Like you said I don’t think you could go wrong with either of these firearms, But I probably would have chosen the Archon the same as you did just based on aesthetics alone. I just can’t get passed the looks of the Steyr something about it I just don’t like, and I’m sure if 1776 or Bust reads my comment I will catch some flak lol.
Anyway you really shot great groupings with both pistols and I hope someday I will get my hands on the Archon Type B to take for a test drive.
No doubt that they are both great. Hopefully you’ll get a chance to run an Archon soon. It’s well worth it! Thank you and cheers James!
Steyr!
DAMN! Really hard choice. Both of them look badass and both of them seem to work amazingly. Nice video by the way.
It was indeed a tough choice! Thank you and cheers!
Nice grouping! My grouping look like Scorpio and Pisces dancing together in outer space.
Thank you very much! We all have our on and off days for sure. Just keep on shooting JD! Cheers!
The original Strike One pistol had a PPQ kind of light trigger.
Great video. Both pistols are very interesting and a bit unique. I think I would prefer the Archon as well.
Thank you Shane! Both really are great but there's something awesome about the Archon. Cheers!
Both of these pistols have excellent sight pictures.
Not a hard choice for me, the Archon.Im just not a Styer fan. Great as always sir!!
Right on James! Thank you and cheers brother!
Great video, I figured the type b would win but fun to watch. Does the type b have the best trigger for a polymer striker gun, nope, but still awesome nonetheless
Thanks Trucker! I agree that it’s probably not the best but it’s darn good. Cheers as always!
Truly enjoyed this video ! Great job . That Archon looks awesome 👍
Thank you Dave! It’s a beast for sure. Cheers!
Ohhhhhh tough choice you’ve presented there! I love both guns, but have a Steyr already, and it is *still* a fantastic choice for its price point and dependability. However I have been following the handgun with different names, such as the Strike One (in the country of it’s origin, Russia), Arsenal’s version: the Stryk B, and now the Archon Type B. Great video as always KS!
They really are both great. That said, if you get the chance to try an Archon, I highly recommend it Kratos! Thank you and cheers brother!
I will *definitely* take that advice KS!! 😉
I would have to get my hands on them both. 4 mags are cool. But for me it's how they fit into my hand.
I completey agree Steve! Thank you and cheers brother!
Thanks for the comparison! I haven't fired either one.
I recommend trying them both! Thank you and cheers!
Laugo Arms next!
I’d sure like to! Thank you and cheers!
That Steyr is a thiccc girl.
Been shooting both the Archon type B and Steyr M9 and L9 together alot lately. They are great. I can still perform better with Steyr doing timed drills cuz of the awesome sights on it. The recoil/muzzle rise/muzzle dip feel the exact same to me. Gonna stick with Steyr. And have pre ordered the M9 A2. But the Archon is right there with it. Cant go wrong with any of them.
The webbing that pushes on your tendon works the same way a doctor checks your reflexes and you move your leg when your knee is tapped. It causes you to squeeze the gun tighter when it recoil into your hand.
Easy, Archon
BOTH or NON!
Cool comparison and dig the fact the one is suppressor ready for you folks....I think 1776 really likes Steyr but I could be wrong....Good info....Good stuff....
1776 is definitely a Steyr fan Scott and I can see why! They are awesome. Thank you and cheers!
The steyr would look and work much better with a stipple job.
I handled and have shot the Archon... it sucked. Steyr any day of the week blows it out of the water/off the range.
Why did it suck? I'd be curious to know the specifics. Thank you and cheers!
Yah, curious myself.
That ridged up under the beaver tail is probably to reinforce the polymer that makes up the beaver tail. Looks like without it, it would be too thin and archon would be having to replace frames.
I have the Arsenal Strike One, shot it at Centerfire no less. Great gun and still wanting a Steyr and the Masada.
Twice the price- twice as good as the Steyr? Hmmmm lol
I just got my Steyr for $357 + $15 shipping (on two guns). I coulda gotten a p10c suppressor ready for $382. I think I’d take them two for the same price as the archon b. Honest outlaw seemed to have issues with his, not saying all of them have these issues.
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KsGunGuy I like almost all of your comparison videos but you're comparing pistols in two TOTALLY different price categories. Search yourself. Internet prices are still $850 on the archon. Almost double what the steyer m9 is going for. Two extra mags doesn't come close to making up the difference. Compare the archon with $800+ pistols next time to keep things fair and so we can see what the same money gets us. Why are so many people dismissing the price of the archon?
Price does not inhibit two guns from being featured. It's the whole premise that I clearly talk about in the intro of literally every episode. two guns, whether similar, or in some cases VERY different.
Oh, and I talk about the price of the two in the summary. You maybe missed that?
Cheers!
Tough choice, but something about the Archon Type B screams at me! Like the Steyr sights but Archon Type B would be my choice. Great content-Thanks.....
I agree C! The Archon is a beast and well worth checking out. Thank you and cheers as always brother!
I'll be critical but not hateful.
1. Wish you would have broken them apart. You talked about it long enough that you could have done it. But you want me to go click on your other video.. click bait much?
2. You picked the wrong gun. I believe you said its "cool" lol. I'd go with the Styer of course.
3. Good luck buddy :-)
Good luck to you too, pal.
This was a very good comparison between two awesome Firearms. I’d have to pick the Type B over the A1. Love that trigger and grip! Thanks for sharing as always Bud.
The trigger and grip are outstanding for sure brother! Thank you and cheers!
Cool trick to reverse the mag release, just insert the mag backwards and the mag release pops out then insert it to the other side and drop the mag. Kinda neat.
On the Type B, the trigger itself is the "safety dingus", that's why it tilts before being pushed back. So the sponginess is really no different than just the normal trigger tab take up.
Right on! Thank you and cheers 2A!
Another great presentation KS. I don't have experience with either one, but I would go with the Steyr mainly because 1776 just raves about it. Have a great weekend.
Thank you Romans! 17 is definitely a fan. Cheers!
New sub wow great channel I am glad this popped up great view of your opinion.100 thumbs up I think I am hooked great job.
Thank you very much Mike! Cheers brother!
I would have to agree. I definitely need to get behind an Archon to play with it.
It's definitely worth checking out brother! Thank you and cheers!
The laugo alien is even better
Great... yet another gun to acquire. Lol! Great video KS. I have a Steyr and like it a lot but knew nothing about the Archon. It looks fantastic though. I think I’m going to put it on my list of guns to buy!
Haha! You can never have too many Eric. They Steyr is awesome and I recommend checking out an Archon if you get the chance. Thank you and cheers brother!
Dremel tools & files are required to be a gun guy.
I knew how this one would end before I even started
PS - You're not a righty, you're a wrongy! Southpaws rule! 😇
I completely agree Frank. If you can’t dremel, you’re in trouble! Can’t lefties and wrongies just get along,lol? Thank you and cheers!
Another hard decision and this one really has me wanting an Archon. All in due time, so many guns and so few $$. TFS brother, have a great weekend!
It’s definitely worth looking into Fu! Thank you and cheers brother!
@@KSGunGuy01I would grab one from Grabagun if I hadn't just bought a few guns recently. I am in the middle of rearranging some things. Cheers brother!
Looking at getting a steyr or a Beretta m9 maybe a ppq. Does the steyr eject into your face or is that an non issue now?
It's not an issue now. Thank you and cheers!
Great job
Thank you Truegrit! Cheers!
Archon blowback & trigger wow, price out of my league. Thanx. P.S.
It’s truly worth it! Thank you and cheers!
Great video, thumbs up. But I expected to see a Steyr A2 against the Archon.
Thank you very much! I wish the Steyr A2 was here but sadly they are having import issues. Cheers!
👍👍👍 I like the matchup KS. Still love my archon b. I've held an M9 and an L9 but I've never fired them.
Thank you Mi! The Archon truly is tough to beat. Cheers!
I've yet to shoot the Archon but it has always peaked my interest it is rather unique for sure. I have shot the Steyr and have to say that it is probably one of my favorite firearms to date only because of the sight picture and the trigger. The ergos are slightly weird at first but a couple hundred rounds and it is simply amazing. I did get an opportunity to check out the new texture at a show not too long ago and have to say that it is right there with the M&P 2.0 texture but with the customization capability of a VP9, which I welcome with open arms. I love the VP9 for its different grip panel and backstrap options it allows for endless combinations that allows the user to really dial in their grip profile. So the new Steyr being similarly designed is wonderful. On the VP9 i run the medium backstrap with the large right palm swell and the small on the left it fits my hand amazing and the New Steyr although I didn't get to play around with the panels is offering a similar package feature. The new model does have a flared magwell and some different texturing on the frame as an indexing point for thumb of support hand and trigger finger that is rather unique and I felt the trigger has been improved upon as well so me and my budget are saying Steyr that is not to say that an Archon won't eventually make its way into the stable but my financial portfolio needs to improve some first.
Right on! I am very excited to try out the new Steyr whenever it happens to appear in my area. The grip customization is a welcome addition for sure. Thank you and cheers Coiler!
Space Force !
Hack yeah Dan! Thank you and cheers brothter!
Where did you get the GREEN F/O tube? What size is it?
You can get them on eBay. Not sure of the size off the top of my head. Thank you and cheers!
Too bad you didn't have A2 for comparison.
Agreed! Thank you and cheers!
I dont have a Archon but I do have a Steyr and its not my favorite but its nice. Nice vid Thanks
I recommend trying the Archon if you get the chance Youngguns. It’s worth it! Thank you and cheers brother!
I personally shoot the Steyr more accurately than the Archon. The Archon is nice but the Steyr M9A1 fits my polar bear claws very well. I am a little nervous about the Steyr A2 MF though. Looks like they changed the grip a bit.
They Steyr is definitely an accurate gun. One of my favorites to shoot. I am curious about the new model! Thank you and cheers!
Never shot the archon and so own a Steyr c9. Having put close to 6k rounds through it with only one light primer strike. Price is incredible and it super comfortable. Yes the lack of reset isn’t there but the trigger is smooth as glass. I am curious about the archons trigger being metal generating to much heat into your finger. Unfortunately looks ain’t everyone and the price tag is just a deal breaker regardless if it comes with two extra. I can only contest from what I know about the Steyr. It’s crazy reliable and just a gun you can shoot all day wanting more
The Steyr is an awesome gun for sure! I love it. As for the trigger on the Archon, heat is not an issue, I assure you. Thank you and cheers!
Great video brother. So well done
Thank you Jeff!
Ive never seen fiber optics switched. Would you care to show how you did it? I like the green over the red.
It’s really easy to do. You just need some fine snippers and a lighter. There are some detailed vids out there to help. Thank you and cheers!
Excellent video, but I disagree: Steyr is the one I choose. However, I'm holding out for the A2 MF version.
The A2 looks awesome! Hopefully, there will be a review coming soon. Thank you and cheers!
@@KSGunGuy01 According to all the reviews of the Steyr A2 MF, the reasons you choose the Archon Type B would be negated. If you ever get a chance to review the A2, I love to see a "Steyr L9 A2 MF vs Archon Tyoe B - If I Could Only have One..." video. Maybe you change your mind, maybe you'll change mine. In any case, I'll be watching your videos from now on.
Now, if only Steyr would ship more of them. Every store is out of stock.
We shall see! I do agree about the supply. It’s very low unfortunately.
Steyr front sight needs to be tritium. Otherwise, perfect gun for me
Or at least high def. Thank you and cheers!
Awesome, video. Wow this is a Hard one .
Thank you Tn! Definitely a hard choice. Cheers!
If they had a sub compact archon I'd be interested...
I would too! Thank you and cheers!
I'll go with the Archon Type B.
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
Ruger Security 9 review please? I know you love your budget priced pistols (taurus g2c) 😁
I did the Security 9 at the beginning of last year. Great gun! There’s a vid in the library on it. Thank you and cheers!
@@KSGunGuy01 Sorry must have missed it going to watch now. Thank you!!!
No worries and thanks again!
I agree that Archon Type B is very Cool gun Ks
Thank you Jerry! Cheers brother!
I would be interested in the Archon but the price point I will pass Steyr the win for me
It’s pricey for sure but well worth it! Thank you and cheers!
@@KSGunGuy01 Im sure it is if I didn't all-ready have so many guns now I would still consider it
Steyr M9A1 for me, proven reliability with the track record to back it up. I'll pass on the overpriced one that might not be nearly as reliable.
I agree that the Archon needs more time on the market to gauge reliability. I do seem to remember Steyr going through some reliability issues as well. That said, the Gen 4 Steyr is awesome. Thank you and cheers!
The steyr had many issues through 2 generations, I had one of them, unfortunately. Watch Mac's channel. The Archon went further through the gauntlet than ANY other gun. Dont rule the Archon out. Its loaded from the factory. No xtra $$$ customizing necessary.
Go look at reliability test for the type B it's right there with glock. There are plenty of guys putting it through its paces. Military arms channel does the gauntlet. That will pretty much take away any concern you may have.
Archon vs Beretta PX4 Storm? Both have non tilting barrels
PX4 is a rotating barrel that's kinda cool!
Very true! Thank you and cheers!
I love your videos. Great job. I have both.
Thank you very much! Cheers!