To the question, “what is this even used for”? Keep in mind, 2004-2006 in Iraq we didn’t have armored vehicles and were driving about in soft skin Chevy Tahoe’s. Gunners were “porcupineing “ out doors with no glass. The Well gunners and Turret gunners were a little More exposed to IED blasts but we all ate one eventually. One of my well gunners took a small piece of shrapnel right above the eyebrow. Soon, many gunners were buying face armor to protect against IED blasts. I don’t know anyone that was hit while wearing the face armor but it was popular early on. If you are on patrol or clearing buildings the armor wouldn’t work because of vision restriction, but sitting in a back seat waiting to get hit by an IED on Sadoon Street, it was practical.
Similar to the Hail Mary that was armor in WW1. It might seem impractical from today's viewpoint but when you're in the shit you'll try anything to survive. Another good example was pilots sitting on their flak vests
@@russellelswick7238 or you just live in a country where you don't have to bring a tool into your home that's more likely to kill yourself or a loved one (i.e. accidents, suicide, spousal violence or a child fucking about with a gun) than an intruder.
The problem with this face mask is that the centre is the same thickness as the rest of the mask and rounds naturally get deflected towards the eyes due to the contours of the mask. I think the manufacturer could learn a lot by studying medieval armour. Medieval breastplates were thicker in the centre and curved so that arrows would be deflected, they also had ridges at the top of the chest which would divert deflected arrows away from the users face. They need to make the face mask thicker in the middle and incorporate ridges to deflect rounds away from the eyeholes.
@@armaslohemadu everything made in China is very low quality. When purchasing protective equipment we should choose to do so from countries or so called philanthropists who believe that the world is overpopulated
Bro this Facemaske IS busted in tarkov i fucking survied 6 shoota of m855 and next RAID a t-5000 i think with m80 straight in the face and was still alive
Remember guys like Clint Smith says “the problem with armor is you have to find someone competent enough to hit it” but in this case someone too competent to aim for the holes.
Armor is great as long as your opponent is trained to shoot center mass. Goes back to dumb and dumber. We have a bullet proof vest. What if he shoots me in the face? Uhh let's hope he doesn't 😂
I'm not a doctor yet but i'm a resident and i did some rotation on traumatology Although the mask fails at the job of protecting the face and even in the lower calibers you would be incapacitated It is interesting to note that it does change the type of trauma and it greatly improves your chance of survival and recovery In a penetrative wound such as a gunshot the damage is not dealt to the point of entry it is done all throught the trajectory making a cone shape wound that is far bigger on the exit Because as the bullet looses momentum it transfers more and more energy However using this mask you would get a wound similar to blunt force trauma and the damage in that case would be far more superficial Which means that we could treat you like you had a car accident In the every day hospital it is very rare to treat a gun shot wound, especially on the head or face because usually they arrive dead if they arrive at all But someone who had a car accident is as regular as every friday night so we are more experienced to treat you In the case someone got shot in the middle of the mask with a low caliber I could send them to a cat scan search for internal bleeding and inflamation on the brain I probably would have to send you to get emergency surgery to open the back of your skull to relieve the internal pressure and give room for the brain to expand Then i'll have to realign your lower jaw and after some days get you another surgery to remove the upper jaw to replace it with a titanium bar and some dental prothesis And after several reconstructive efforts and at least 4 months of rehabilitation you would be able to go back to your life with something similar to a nose and slight brain damage Bad news you wont get to be a model but you would live (If you get treatment withing the hour of getting shot) The alternative would be not using the mask and the bullet would go straight to the brain killing you instantly Edit: wow 8 months since this comment, i got a notification and read some insightful replies i will try to answer some of them in a reply of my own. Thanks to everyone who participated in this little debate of ours
What would be interesting is the types of neck injury and Coup contrecoup injury seen in these scenario. The shield may have limited the penetration but the energy is still transferred to the wearer. With a frontal hit and hyperextension of the cervical spine, I'd wager you would see a lot of Dens fractures.
With the description of damage and recovery road, I think I'd prefer the instant death. The dead don't have to deal with the PTSD of getting shot in the face.
DUDE WE ARE SEEING THE OUTCOME WITH LIVE AMMUNITION EXERCISES, GO SELL YOUR FAKE CHINESE ARMOR DOWN IN SOUTH AMERICA OR SOMETHING IM SURE THEYLL BE JUST AS FORGIVING WITH YOUR MISLEADING BULLSHIT ADVICE, NO MATTER HOW SOUND YOUR TRAJECTORY EXPLANATIONS IS ITS STILL DUMB AS FUCK . ANYONE TAKING A ROUND TO THE HEAD 9 TIMES OUT OF TEN DIES NO MATTER WHAT YOU HAVE WRAPPED AROUND IT
The masks did an impressive job, as the bullets, for the most part, didn’t actually penetrate. The shock wave, spinal and potential concussion/cerebral damage is another issue.
@@t.r.4496 like it can stop rocks and a club but it sure as shit ain't gonna stop your neck suddenly breaking because the force of that bullet just caused your head, namely your neck, to jerk violently at the speed of sound.
Additionally, Just because armor meets standards for deformation and penetration you have to also consider force transference and trauma. Most people focus only on penetration and deflection. But depending on what your hit with the force which transfers into your body would be similar to say a 4+ story fall concentrated in a small area which you would still not walk away from. This is why trauma padding is important for dispersing force evenly. There are many people who have armor rated for say a 1 oz slug and even a .50 but with no trauma padding you could still experience internal bleeding and ruptured organs and may still die before you even see EMS. A year or so of working in the ED dealing with blunt force trauma from GSWs taught me not to skimp out. Always get the trauma padding.
Agreed just look at Medieval warfare A sword couldn't cut through breast plate armor so what did you use? A war hammer. A war hammer wasn't designed to puncture the breast plate but deliver kinetic force and damage the body. A warhammer could penetrate the armor but it was designed to kill you with the kinetic force. People in the comments aren't realize that yeah the mask might not have been penetrated but the sheer kinetic force that bullet moves at and especially the denting of the mask will kill you. Sure the KJ on the bullet is lower than the KJ of a warhammer but the damage will be done. It's your face and brain thw weakest and most vital area in your body. So yeah the mask might not let the bullet penetrate but that kinetic energy will definitely kill you. Plus the way the mask is designed the bullets get deflected into the eye which is a horrible design People in the comments don't realize that just because the bullet doesn't penetrate doesn't mean it won't kill you.
@@lifeinjersey9846 cause harm to you? Yeah. Outright kill you? Nah... The Warhammer was design to deliver kinetic force upon a person but mostly would give them a concussion or topple the horse of the opponent. It wouldn't have enough force to kill the person.
Good points. I personally haven't tried either, but I imagine having a bullet decelerate against my head would be comparable to being smacked in the head by a hammer.
I was wondering if this could work i want to develop a bulletproof mask with a layer of hyperline safe life defense armor, a layer of ceramic hexagonal flexible plate and a ultra thin layer of d3o to dissipate the force transfers,tell me what do you think please
The thing about modern body armour is that none of it really uses the knowledge gained from ancient armour designs. Some do but very, very rarely. Medieval plate armour was designed in a way were the curvature of plates not only made things like swords and arrows deflect off the armour, the curves also made it so there were spots on your body, where there's an empty void between you and your armour. These voids were mainly located on the chest, shoulders and head. This was especially important on helmets that covered your whole head, where the front and top section never actually make contact with your skull. So if you were to take a hit that deformed your face-shield, the gap between your face and the metal makes it less likely for the deformation to reach your bone and shatter your skull. But not all armours in that time were made the same, so this mechanic varied greatly from armour set to armour set. The main point is, you don't really see this method being used in modern body armour. Modern armour is always touching your body, except for helmets. But most helmets these days rarely use face-shields, save for riot helmets and some Russian helmets. And without some gap between your chest and your armour, a vest that can stop a 50-BMG is rather redundant since it won't stop your rib-cage from shattering due to sheer kinetic trauma. Keep in mind I'm not saying a gap between you and your armour would work perfectly all the time. I just think it would be better than having a bullet resistant plate pressed right against your sternum. Or in the case of this video, right against your bloody face, where the deformation of a bullet impact sends your nasal cavity right into your fucking brain. If the mask was attached to a helmet and free floating away from your face, that would rarely happen.
Yes. I like the way you're thinking. One thing to keep in Mind though is, that the ballistics/mechanics of impact are usually dependent on the velocity of the projectile/ impactor in a very complex way. Most if not all materials (like steel (Armor)) exhibit some form of visco-elasticity which means, in most basic terms, that their hardness varies with the speed of the imparted deformation. At very high speeds (like supersonic bullet speeds and above) even solid metals can behave more like a fluid and deflection through angled impact becomes less viable/ effective. Thusly I think it wouldn't be entirely sufficient to copy many of the old principles unmodified as, of course, a swing from a poleaxe or even a shot from a powerful war bow or a musket ball will behave radically different to modern firearms and bullets. In perhaps unforseen or even counterintuitive ways even. Then again I'm sure there is a whole lot of interesting research about this, which is, of course, tax payer funded, but which none of us can ever hope of reading up about. Greetings from Germany!
@@tanaziolopez1936 for well made armour this isn't the case at all. These plenty of videos on TH-cam of people in medieval armour doing push ups and sprinting and all
tbh if you see this as a "protective mask" rather than "bulletproof mask" theyre quite impressive.. i mean, wearing this mask vs wearing nothing against something like shrapnel would be invaluable.
@@wellendowedplatypus9024 if the top was sheared off then it'd be helmet compatible. they must have some kind of adapted helmet for these in the works. definitely not meant to deflect point-blank dead-on rounds though, and should not be rated as such. definitely seems like this is more for strays and shrapnel. plus, even if a guy gets dinged by a 9mm and it shatters his jaw, hes still likely going to survive. provided the gunman doesn't walk up and finish him off.
@@attilabubby But if the situation call for a full helmet, such a helmet will always be more resilient than half-helmet + mask, even in the front (think of a motorbike helmet design but with stronger materials). If you want frontal protection, include it in the helmet, a separate mask piece will always, inherently be less effective.
@@attilabubby exactly. The guy in the video is missing a major point. Even if your jaw/nose/face are grievously injured, there’s an infinitely greater chance you’ll survive from those injuries than a bullet through the brain. That said I think the biggest issue with these masks would be limited visibility.
The funny thing about non-penetrable masks is that one's neck will be broken much faster. It's not only a matter of not allowing bullet to enter the head, but also managing the rest of delivered kinetic energy. It's why, e.g. Russian "Sphere" anti-ballistic helmets look like a lollipop with paratrooper's head inside...
> The funny thing about non-penetrable masks is that one's neck will be broken much faster. That is an old myth dating back to WW1 german helmets. You will not break your neck.
I can understand the PRINCIPLE they were trying to achieve. “Bulletproof” armor with a contour so that the bullet deflects off the curved surface. It’s similar to an armadillo, which if you’re shooting with a .22 you have to hit it between the bands, because the bullets will (most of the time) ricochet off the armadillo’s shell, and it’s not even made of anything as strong as this mask.
Same with turkey feathers, I've personally seen their feathers deflect arrows and shotgun slugs, it doesn't stop everything, but if you hit it just right it'll just deflect
The back-face deformation observed when removing the mask (or most any type of armor) is less than the actual full deformation (it snaps back). This is why proper armor/helmet testing SOP/TOPs utilize temperature-conditioned and calibrated clay, with specific support, to accurately capture the event. The clay is then scanned with a laser to create a 3D solid model (similar to a CAD file), from which measurements are made. Since the clay properties, projectile before & after mass, and muzzle velocity are known and controlled for, a little math provides details such as energy delivered, and is then fed into injury prediction equations/curves that are based on further supporting testing done over the last 25 years. This is done for various thoracic/pulmonary injuries, neck, cranial, ocular, auditory, and other injury mechanisms, including ballistic and blast overpressure inputs.
Backface deformation was actually part of how plate armor was defeated in "old world" combat, too. Dent the plate into the chest, crush ribs. Dent the helmet into the head, well...that's as good as no helmet, honestly.
@Turaglas 'course not, lol. But whether you're underarmored and swinging a pole, or equally set and halfswording with the "one end or the other" plan, you're gonna have to try.
actually breastplates had buldges or gaps between torso and metal plates. same for helmets, they were suspended on leather straps. You never wore metal directly against your body (when possible) plate armor was defeated by firearms and cheap soldiers with polearms and knives :) and by the way... if someone would hit a helmet so hard to cave in the steel enough, to crush the head underneath... the pure force of the blow alone would probably smash the brain against the skull in such a violent matter, that you'll die instantly anyway :)
Yeah, I think if there was a visored sallet style helmet made of this it could be pretty effective especially since it could use that riot helmet plexiglass stuff where the eye-slit is and not have a giant ricochet zone that sends stuff right into your eyes.
The National Museum of Health & Medicine in Maryland has a fantastic collection of civil war injuries, along with JFK's shirt, fragments of Lincoln's skull, and a plethora of other historical medical obscura. Some of it is macabre, lots of abnormal specimens.
According to one Marine friend of mine that wore masks/early gen mandible armor on Humvee gun turrets in Iraq, they "work" in so much as they keep everything together so it's still possible to have an open casket funeral, but beyond that, no, masks don't work.
They're meant for pistol ammo shot from pistol length barrels as far as I know, I'm fairly sure Iraqi army didn't run around with makarovs and glocks lol
Oh damn I just recalled a clip from a cop's bodycam where a dude in high quality body armour, one of these masks and with some diy protection for the legs and arms went nuts, stopped the traffic and was brandishing an ar (or even shooting at people?). The cop pulled over, grabbed the service rifle from the trunk, one-tapped him in the head, secured the scene. It was all over the news
not even intimidation, but wearing masks changes how people behave. If you want your police force to be more violent, for example, you would give them masks because of the psychological effects.
@@forty9r9r7 this commonly held belief stems from the Stanford Prison Experiment. Unfortunately, it was not a legitimate experiment. The person conducting the experiment actively got involved with it, and encouraged the prison guards to act less humanely. So we can’t know if wearing masks or mirrored glasses actually has a dehumanising effect, since the Stanford Prison Experiment is biased & unusable, and no other experiments on the topic have ever been completed.
I mean.... I'd rather have a broken jaw/lip when being shot by a 9mm than that 9mm going through and severing my spine, tongue etc. Even the 45 was stopped. Sure you'd likely have a TBI/Concussion... but isn't that preferable to, you know, being dead and all?
Again, like, which would you rather have? A 44 going through your face/neck? Or the 44 being stopped and you having facial reconstructive surrgery? I'm pretty sure the manufacturer of this armor doesn't ever claim you'll walk away scott free. Theres no free lunch. You take a 44 to your unprotected face, then you're almost certainly dead. You take a 44 to your face with this mask on, you might actually live. So... I don't understand why these guys thought this armor was unsussesful. Even in things like modern tanks, getting hit isn't supposed to just 'Bounce' off the tank armor and cause no damage.
@@carlpolen7437 because it is unsuccessful. Modern body armor works by absorbing and dispersing the energy of a bullet across a larger surface area of the vest. The plates you insert into a flak vest work on almost the same principle. However, instead of "catching the bullet in multiple nets" like the flak vest and soft body armor does the plates operate in a 2 step process. 1. The plates shatter and/or erode the bullet into smaller fragments. 2. The plate backing acts as another body armor vest by absorbing and dispersing the rest of the kinetic energy of the smaller fragments. You are still going to get blunt force trauma from light to severe bruising, cracked or broken bones, or even internal bleeding and organ damage. With these masks yes they stop the bullet, but they stop it with deflection and deformation and not absorption and dispersion. All that deformation is going to fracture and/or crush your skull. You'll walk away from the .22 but that's it. It'll still be lights out with anything bigger as the mask will act like a bolt stunner (or cattle gun), or act like you got hit in the head/face with a hammer being swung at 800-1500 ft/sec (the fastest a human can swing a hammer is 16 ft/sec and you can see how devastating that is).
@@carlpolen7437 Because when you're fighting in the jungle of south america, a TBI is just a slower death. I'd rather go out quick and painlessly than suffer for hours in the jungle.
“Because in south america, everybody and their mom has an FAL” As a Brazilian this is so spot on. It’s not uncommon to see confrontations between the police and drug trafickers with both using FALs here, this weapon is like grass here.
These are more used for a psychological effect. They're similar to the Samurai face masks. They provided a little protection, but were clearly more geared toward scaring the piss out of their adversaries. Imagine encountering a bunch of armor clad baddies, all wearing those. It would have a profound psychological effect on you. The thing about masks is their ability to hide visible fear. Your enemy is faceless and unsympathetic. That can be demoralizing for the enemy. There is, however, a downside. Because you're a faceless enemy, your opponent won't see you as a fellow human being. Therefore , showing you mercy is not on the itinerary.
Just keep in mind somebody could grab you by the throat and beat the s*** out of you doesn't matter if you have a mask on or not,,we all know mask dont do shit.
@@niveklor1456 there's no sign of intelligent life in your comment. Tbh dude with the mask could just headbut you, coin can flip either way wannabe tough guy.
@@niveklor1456 exactly, you can use bulletproof vest, helmet and safety boot, but keep in mind someone can just grab you by the throat and beat the shit out of you, doesn't matter if you have these thing on or off. 😂
The .22 and the 7.62 rounds going through the eye hole is interesting because in terms of medieval full face helmets with eye slots like bascinets, it was known that arrows could often be guided into the eye via the holes. The slow-mo of 22 shots makes it look like something like that happened here.
Most later helmets were designed with protrusions around the eye holes to deflect the arrows away from that vulnerable area. These shitty ballistic masks are why.
Funny that you specifically mention bascinets, because the scenario you are describing is practically impossible with those. Medieval helmets actually had a lot of thought put into them, and the curves guide projectiles away from the openings. Nearly all bascinets have eye openings smaller than the diameter of an arrowhead, so it's very unlikely to get hit in the face.
I was about to say the same thing! Major design flaw. Even armor makers in the Middle Ages figured this out and designed their helmets to deflect blows AWAY from the eyes.
@@Gongolongo Different in some ways, but the same design principles apply. Even modern body armor is angled in a way to defect bullet fragments away from your face. This mask actually does the opposite around the eyes. My point is that the design is flawed. I wasn’t debating the low quality materials.
"If you're wearing a facemask, you're probably going into a situation where somebody has a FAL." Thinking about where in the world law enforcement are actually wearing these, this statement seems astonishingly true!
Played hockey most of my life and I can confirm with 100% accuracy that taking a fast moving projectile to your face shield/bird cage/Goalie mask...is not a "pleasant" experience... ever...
Several years ago, (late 90's) we were given similar looking face shields to be worn while executing dangerous search warrants. This was after an entry team cop was shot in the face during a warrant service. These masks were much thicker than the ones you're testing appear to be. It was possible to wear it with a standard kevlar helmet if you pushed the helmet up a little and let the mask cover your forehead instead of the front part of the helmet covering it, but it wasn't a good or comfortable fit. If the straps were adjusted to hold it in place it squished your nose and the whole scheme was awkward at best. We wore them on only one entry and found out we couldn't see very much at all. We decided it was better to take our chances and be able to see what's going on around us and we sent them back to the closet.
I always thought a chest-mounted face shield would be more practical if you really needed head armour. A ballistic bevor or gorget, essentially. Something like a ballistic helmet visor that rises to your face but is supported by the chest plate. Turning your head would be easier without the weight.
@@lewildknight9864 there is chest mounted neck armor, but chest mounted face armor would have you walking around like Darth Vader as you wouldnt be able to turn your head so its not very practical id say
@@thesadslav419 I think its more akin to knigtly bevor, that would protect lower part of the face and neck. You would still be able to turn your head side to side, only looking down would be problematic.
I didn't understand why he was so intent on making the mask look bad. Clearly the analysis was not completely biased. In urban conflicts where revolvers and low caliber pistols are generally used, this mask could really be the difference between life and death. Bearing in mind that in addition to preventing penetration, the force of the blunt impact is obviously reduced due to distribution.
@@apocalypticachmodiomy local swat team uses these and old buddy survived 44. Magnum to the cheek 100%. His bone was slightly fractured, but he was able to talk and move fine and needed no surgery. But this guy was on steroids like a UFC fighter, so he can probably take a good beating lol.
@@thevotemanidk about the deflecting to the eye part, because yeah that sucks, but certainly as it is i'd say these face masks are cost effective, because even for rifles if your expecting a flak vest to stop their bullets and yet this thing to have no potential of saving your life at engagement ranges (certainly not letting you tank and fight) then give me that invulnerability blunt your smoking. Problems I'd identify is that the masks are clearly meant for intimidation due to the visibility constraints and the fact the eyes are entirely exposed while we also know the mask doesn't combine well with any additional optical equipment. A simpler redesign that leaves more of a "eyeband" where a "bullet proof" visor can be placed allowing for better visual and maybe a helmet designed to work with this, and the whole thing will be great. Also to note, the mask is predominantly Taiwanese, any Chinese using this are purely using it for intimidation as their army as of 2019 still hadn't made body armor of any kind standard issue. Thus the reforms they started (IDK if they'll follow through with em) where they would downsize their army and issue "upgraded" gear to their smaller, and now presumably more elite, army's forces and which would feature standardized body armor, an new rifle (though the one initially proposed has already been pulled due to major flaws that became known once in the field) and allegedly better comms coordination.
I always expected ballistic mask to have more deflective angles , if you can get bruised or broken ribs with a vest it doesn't take much imagination to figure that a mask probably isnt gonna help a whole lot especially if you consider the whipping effect that could sever the brain spine connection.
@@brenton9492 Yup. But there is record of police officer getting shot in the face with shotgun. He wore helmet with face protection and wallked out of the shooting alive.
I imagine these masks are significantly more effective against shrapnel from traps and IEDs which would explain the military usage. Explosive devices were, are, and will continue to be the biggest cause of conflict casualties by far and away. Much like when the Germans introduced the Stahlhelm in 1916 even though they were pretty thin and in no way shape or form bulletproof they reduced the number of head injuries from lateral shrapnel by 90 percent. But that begs the question "why not just wear a helmet then?" Which like yeah you would still be significantly better off with any crappy off brand kevlar. The only thing these masks have going for them is in combination with a balaclava they're pretty darn bad guy cool.
@@spookite Absolutely, but close enough even a specially designed bomb suit will not save a person. Its the shrapnel that flies far and wide that injures or kills the unprotected person.
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The manufacturer kind of found a loophole. The NIJ ratings are for *body* armor. According to the spec, the maximum deflection is 44mm/1.73". For body armor sure, cracked ribs but you'll live. For a face shield we saw the results in the video :D So it's only NIJ IIIA if you put it on your chest.
I think it should be doable to tweak the design around the eye holes a little bit to deflect them in another direction. But who needs two eyes? Eyesight is absolutely overrated /s
Almost all of the rounds would cause a basal skull fracture. The 22 and maybe the 9mm would be survivable. But the 12ga was brutal the amount of energy it hit with.
guess what the three most common guns Americans buy (for home defense), the .22 (mostly in rifle form), the 12-gauge shotgun, and the .357 magnum (better range than .45, and stronger than the 9mm). Guess what country China is most likely going to have future trouble with... America. (This doesn't include the police and the armed forces)
You do understand that this was from point blank range? Agreed that this is maybe not the best solution, but it will give you some kind of protection. Helmets were introduced back to infantry war after about some 250 or something years. Body armour as in flak jackets and kevlar got reintroduced also.
As much as it can be considered "wish armour," interestingly it does its job and prevents you from immediate death by bullet. Which from my knowledge is the case for any armour whether on your noggin or on your chest, you ain't coming out of a bullet unscathed whether you were wearing no armour at all and it goes straight through you or if you are wearing armour and it just breaks a couple bones. Yes its shit armour but rather than treating a gun wound doctors would be more suited to your injury which I'd imagine isn't too dissimilar to a car crash.
5:12 Another thing with armor is that the way it's shaped affects the angle at which things fly off of it. When the projectile hits, it almost looks like the mask's own design is forcing it into the eyehole, in slow motion.
That’s because the human skull is evolutionary designed in a way to redirect blows away from the brain the brow and cheekbones protect the eye socket from blunt force trauma. Humans are a 2,000,000 year old species but recorded history is only a fraction of that time so most ware-fare for a long time was clubs bones, stone axes and hand to hand combat between our prehistoric ancestors.
@@nova8797 Okay. I was referring to the angles of the armor mask literally forcing the projectile into the eyehole, though. The angles present on ANY piece of armor affect the direction in which things are going to fly off, and the design of this mask appears like it's vulnerable to bullets being redirected into the user's eyes by the mask itself. Also, for at least several thousand of it, we wore armor, so I don't see your point, frankly.
Legit even some well made sets of medieval full plate armor have a piece lining the upper torso to prevent arrows from flying up after hitting the chest piece and striking the wearer in the face And that one piece does it's job well to an incredible degree by deflecting the arrows to the sides and otherwise away Who ever came up with this specific ballistic mask design probably doesn't know a damn thing about armor
That that depends on the understanding you have of what impact actually is of a rifle round.. If you mitigate the sound waves or mass movement of air molecules.. then you can stop any round I know how to build it my father taught me
@@sa-amirel-hayeed699 sound waves my friend 70% of all energy in kinetic form to push a turbine bullets, Pistons etc rockets is sound waves not thermal energy. ..
If your decibel ratings are higher than the decibels of the impact Force being applied concussion Force AKA sound waves or mass movement of air molecules of which sound is a universal binding force of all matter itself for instance the decibel ratings on the surface of the Sun are in the trillions the infrasonic frequencies of the earth that produces earthquakes in magma etc is below the human range of hearing and frequency but the decibels produced can move mountains.. My father was an electro acoustic engineer and acoustic architectural engineer who served three tours in Vietnam as ECM reconnaissance.. He also held seven us patents I actually helped him develop a hemispherical speaker driver..
Just like if I wrap a tweeter around the tip of a barrel and produce decibels higher by even 1%, then the total output of the rifle around being fired I can mitigate around 90% of the sound being produced... As I am now canceling out the sound waves now the funny part is I can do this in a below human range of hearing whereby unless you have a oscilloscope you're not going to find it or hear it but the decibels as in the molecules that I am moving in Mass will still cancel out the sound waves this is how soundwave noise cancellation technology actually works it was established as a fact of Science in 1946 by the war department and infrasonic weapons research and development.
It's worth considering that these were all head-on shots from a very short range. This kind of thing could potentially save you from death or permanent injury from a shot that barely nicks you at a far enough range though. There's definitely room for improvement in the design but I don't think they're useless as a concept.
If far enough away, it will kick your head back, knock you out and you'll fall backwards. Next round is going in your dick. The best way to survive is to not get shot and to do that you'll actually need to be able to see people who'll shoot you. You'd literally be better off walking around with a high rated assault shield instead of a stupid mask.
@@TheMaw365 There's plenty of combat footage on the internet at this point, it feels like half the time soldiers being shot have no idea where they're getting shot from anyway because enemy combatants are half a mile away in a bush on the horizon or hiding under a rock or somewhere you wouldn't see them regardless. If I'm being shot and I can't see the enemy either way, I'm taking the questionably designed clunky face armor
I feel like everything below the .44 was actually fairly survivable. You're going to be knocked out and your face is going to be messed up, but it still does take a lot to kill someone, and a blunt brain injury isn't an instant death. If you were part of a police action and got popped in the face from a handgun, presumably your buddies are going to be able to drag you out and get you to a hospital. I have seen some truly gnarly face, skull, and brain injuries that people have survived. Like, if that dude was able to survive jumping off that pier and cracking his face open like the Predator on the concrete dock below it, then a smashed nose isn't going to do you in. However, if you're talking about a remote military action or solo defense, you're going lights out for everything except the .22, and that's as good as dead anyway. The other side of it is that in order to get that protection, you're suffocating inside of a sarcophagus you can't see out of, probably making you more likely to get shot in the face anyway.
@@classdpersonnel115 I understand there are other brands and designs. I'm going off the basis that this one in particular is popular out in the world (I don't actually know if that is true, that is simply the impression the video left me), ie if there is a practical application many find this mask can accomplish (like being used against shrapnel) if its prudent to do so, they can easily wear a helmet with one of these masks. Essentially making that particular criticism a moot point in my opinion.
Paramedic here - even on the lower caliber rounds, a lot of that nasty trauma you're seeing around the nose and mouth will absolutely result in a compromised airway. And as a medical professional, I can assure you that's, like, suuuuper bad for you.
@@ParanoidBarnOwl You're not going to listen to anything I say, so here's an excerpt from an article published in the Journal of Emergency Medical Services. Since TH-cam doesn't like links, the title is "Assessing and Managing Facial Trauma", the author is Robert Girardeau, who is among other things a flight medic. Date of publication 06/09/2015. "Patients with suspected or obvious mandibular or maxillary fracture are at an increased risk for airway compromise. Providers should be extremely cautious of airway deterioration any time a patient with maxillofacial injury is also presenting with dysphonia and oropharyngeal edema. In fact, anytime a patient presents with upper chest, neck, or facial trauma, and also has trouble speaking, hoarseness, and/or drooling, providers must be extremely suspicious for airway deterioration and the need for rapid intubation and possibly surgical airway maneuvers."
@@ParanoidBarnOwl and since I know you're still going to keep blabbering, here's an excerpt of a paper from the National Institute of Health, titled "Airway Management of the Patient With Maxillofacial Trauma: Review of the Literature and Suggested Clinical Approach". The authors are an anaesthesiologist, an emergency trauma surgeon, and two maxillofacial surgeons. "Posteroinferior displacement of a fractured maxilla parallel to the inclined plane of the base of the skull may block the nasopharyngeal airway. A bilateral fracture of the anterior mandible may cause the fractured symphysis and the tongue to slide posteriorly and block the oropharynx in the supine patient. Fractured or exfoliated teeth, bone fragments, vomitus, blood, and secretions as well as foreign bodies, such as dentures, debris, and shrapnel, may block the airway anywhere along the oropharynx and larynx. Hemorrhage from distinct vessels in open wounds or severe nasal bleeding from complex blood supply of the nose may also contribute to airway obstruction. Soft tissue swelling and edema which result from trauma of the head and neck may cause delayed airway compromise. Trauma of the larynx and trachea may cause swelling and displacement of structures, such as the epiglottis, arytenoid cartilages, and vocal cords, thereby increasing the risk of cervical airway obstruction."
In my country, the troops that actually use this mask also have helmets (like the GIGN ones), this mask is only used to hide their identity during parades, there used to be a version that could be fitted with night vision goggles.
Even though the skull got busted up, I'm still impressed by how well the mask resisted being penetrated. I really thought the 9mm was gonna go right through it
Problem with that is you may survive the shot if it goes in and out of parts of your face but this mask almost ensures you die if not from the immediate impact but from the concussion force which it seems to totally put on your whole skull!!??
@@daltiejul oh I'm not praising it's protectivity. I'm just saying that my expectations for it's durability were so excruciatingly low, that even what little it accomplished was impressive in comparison to said expectations
@@daltiejul ya, I’d chance taking a smashed mug over a threw & threw through my thinker bits, your not waking up from 99.9999% a that shit, tho you’re basically taking one a my sledgehammer swings which is absolutely definitely not recommend, tho if at all possible if I can continue to not catch any of the above? 👍🏻👍🏻 WAY ⤴️
Yeah, well you are still going to end up with a deformed face or skull. And it is highly likely you will have a broken neck. I guess the benefit you are pointing out is that a family may be able to have an open-casket funeral for whoever decides to try this out on the playing field. 😉
It's not supposed to be heavy enough to completely block the bullet, but able to deflect the bullet so it doesn't penetrate inside. That 9mm hollowpoint would have shredded the insides of his brain, but instead he will probably have a moderate concussion and be incapacitated. The mask in general is also there to just help deflect stray shrapnel, from artillery and drones amongst other things. I don't think it's the worst idea tbh.
It's been said already but I'll say it again - these test results are going to be skewed by shooting the same mask over and over with increasingly bigger caliber rounds. A better approach would be to have setup a fresh target with a new mask for each weapon. Budget to do so may understandably be a factor, but it's hard to take tests like this seriously when they're designed incorrectly.
Its the same thing with every channel out there... They get one armor plate and then shred it with an arsenal of weapons asking stupid questions like will it hold an RPG blast etc....
@@Cnupoc not really that serious, if you are taking advice on whether or not to use a particular piece of body armour or equipment from a youtuber then i would question your sanity.
I'm not sure if its just me but I feel like the way the mask is shaped (especially around the nose and eyes), basically just forces all of the bullets that aren't big enough to fully penetrate the mask to ricochet towards the eyes and upper face (brain) of the person wearing it. Amazing design
My man @@daniell5740 forgot that firearms and arrows were used in the middle ages. Also, eye slits can give slight protection from thrusts with other weapons as well, though that would be a hell of a lucky miss for the recipient.
Actually, yes the big thing of that version is that you can't wear a helmet with it. But they do make a version that works with most MICH helmets, and high cuts.
I think a mask that works with helmets has way worse properties. Being round helps a lot with distributing force and preventing it from bending more. For example, this mask protects the chin and you can lay it flat on a surface, even though its not optimal shape.
Im actually incredibly surprised that its able to deflect all of those projectiles. Maybe if it were improved upon to actually protect against deformation, itd be a better idea
@@Name-cz5jj i understand deformation is a necessity for shock absorption. I just meant the massive deformation that the mask gets could do well with less
I feel like with some more improvements it could be useful in real combat-assuming the operative is used to wearing it of course. A lot of these were almost point-blank range and it did so much better than I would have ever expected it to. It could definitely save a lot more lives if the design allowed coupling with helmets as well. I would personally much rather a broken nose, teeth and dislocated jaw than leaving a jigsaw puzzle for the doctors to figure out after a bullet wrecked havoc in my skull. That is if I even survive it in the first place.
This is how it works with body armor also. The kenitic impact can still mess you up but it leaves you mostly intact as long as the round doesn't punch through it. Of course if the round goes through the armor it could slow it down just enough to cause more damage then if you weren't armored but that is a discussion for a different day.
This is a taiwanese ballistic mask not an "bulletproof mask." It is meant to stop pieces of shrapnel from the environment from scratching your face. It is worn as antiriot gear by some police along with some military but they wear another part of the helmet on top of it where it includes thicker plates in front with thick goggles.
@@Robert-xn3dc Ones made properly are but he bought these from fucking Ebay, they're not the actual ballistic masks made for the military. The South Korean Special Forces use these and they're some of the best in the world so when they're made right they can.
Your C1 and C2 vertebrae are the top two vertebra in your neck closest to the Medulla. Your spinal cord is at its thickest diameter through these two vertebra compared to all other vertebra below them. While the spine can take a relatively large amount of axial load (a compression force on the spine, like being hit on the top of the head with some blunt force object), what those two bones can not do well is take a large amount of force in any other direction. The amount of energy that the 9mm or higher places on the maxillofacial area is significant enough to cause trauma to those two vertebra, which in most cases would incapacitate the wearer almost immediately. The resultant trauma to the spinal cord would actually worsen within a few minutes, including the persons inability to breathe on their own, complete paralysis, loss of continence, and lack of enough deliverable oxygen to the brain. I'd rather die quickly than live a few minutes more with any of those conditions. Safety tip: don't get shot in the face. .
@@aksel487 professional boxer's will punch with more force than your average 9mm bullet but it's not instantaneous and most of the force is absorbed by the boxer's arm
Two improvements i would make is to add some steel to the front of the mask ,1-2mm and bullet proof glass inserts in the eye holes would vastly improve the masks ability to deflect rounds
tbh I think tests including bullet resistant headwear and masks should be done with a mechanism that offers the same resistance as an average neck/muscles to see if something might be stopping the bullet, but also if the round will snap your neck and kill you that way.
Wasnt there a dummy used in some kind of force test involving the 'legendary' one hit knock out punch by NatGeo or something a long time ago? I swear it was an upper body torso that moved along with the force to help simulate the impact.
@@LeuvahkTrigger I know that Mythbusters did something like that once. I believe they were testing whether you could literally knock someones socks off.
@@lambsauce5312 Dr. Mike Oxlong here. I’m an educator at the University of Science™️. Mostly I’m referring to the science of Ligma. In Europe this field of study is referred to as Bofa.
@@boxlunch1698 but they worked? the only thing they ain't stopping is assault rifles; for which helmets also don't do shit unless you lucky, there is no "armour" against assault rifles that you effectively can move around in. magnum sized bullets; which NO ONE in a fcking warzone has his sidearm gun as a magnum, that's rambo shit right there and you won't survive an explosive arrow to the face either so just don't fight rambo ;) and lastly 12g shotgun at 5 meters to the face; seriously? you expected to survive that with ANY type of armour?...the impact shock alone is enough to break your neck, just dumb... so effectively it protects you against all small firearms, as such guns, machine guns; p90 etc. and if it is a glancing blow it protect you against most, properly not assault rifles but nothing does; like helmets can take 1-2 shots if its glancing blows, direct shot goes through a titanium top grade helmet as well so yer... you can also find a way to built it so you can wear it with a helmet... your main problem is how it is constructed to guide to bullets into your eyes o.O which is just absolutely shitty design xD also against melee weapons such as knifes, machetties etc. it will work extremely well as head protection ^^
@mod channel at least a good helmet protects something. this protects nothing. its next to useless. shrapnel? from what? youd be able to better react to shrapnel if you could just be able to fucking see. you cant see shit outta this mask and it protects against the most minor of projectiles.
I suggest doing a new one of these where you do the ballistic visors. The clear bulletproof glass that attaches to helmets. Unlike the face masks, they're a distance away from your face. So the real question isn't backface deformation, but instead penetration and shrapnel.
I don’t think he would, because that is an American/European thing, and one of his common points about this face mask was that it was Chinese or from a third world country. I doubt he has questions about any American or European gear.
Both of the .22 rounds skipped through the eye hole. The slope towards your eye increases your chances of turning a lower cheek .22 hit into a fatal one through the eye socket. 🤣
Exactly, this is how Shattered mask in Tarkov should work. Rly high ricochet chance, but the bullet will likely kill you even without penetration. Better wear Altyn or LShZ-2DTM with a face shield. P.S. Garand Thumb, how 'bout a ballistic test for face shields for various helmets?
At the end of the day it's still a game and games have to have balanced items. If the shattered mask deflected bullets but dealt 100% of its damage in blunt damage, then its beyond worthless.
Not for nothing, but this really surprised me. Yeah I think those "ballistic" face masks are kinda dumb too, but even the .44 magnum did a lot less damage than I thought. These things might actually save your life in certain situations. Because a shot ANYWHERE in the skull/face with a .44 mag will straight up remove your head. This makes it possibly survivable. Although you'd probably lose all your teeth! And the deformation criteria for level 3A armor is like 4-5 inches. So this is not bad.
@@baraka629 would probably also be good for urban raids where you're entering through doorways hallways and into rooms where attackers will be shooting directly at the front of you.
This video is two years old so not sure the feedback is worth it. Great video, I'd find it very helpful when dealing with uncommon items like this to give reference points to something more standard. For instance what the 44 could not penetrate and what it could, would it go through a standard US army helmet for instance? I'm not too versed in guns and this is pretty out of context for me. Written footnote or quick short sentence would be plenty enough. Just a very small feedback, video is great! Never mind if that's not a good idea.
those masks are more to deflect than directly absorb the energy and it does a good job at that. This will save you from a poorly angled shot but that visibility tradeoff is something to think about
If I were ever to fight in a battle as a soldier, I'd rather wear a helmet. I doubt you can see anything while wearing that mask. Gasmasks have bigger goggles, and my vision was terrible while wearing one
Helmets obviously don't protect your face. Today's helmets have largely become crap, especially in the west, where they are quite small and used primarily to attach comms equipment and whatever gadgets you have, They don't cover the ears and barely shield the forehead.
@@FusionCoreHoarder This mask isnt worn by soilders but rather police when dealing with. lets say, a call for breaking and entering or a hostage situation where the assulter likely has firepower no stronger than a handgun. However Chinese police don't use it themselves so this is likely an export or for citizens that want a costume
The great thing with this sort of product, from a business perspective, is that if it does not work, well the customer is no longer there to ask for a refund, is he?
I think the manufacturer could learn a lot by starting with an *arc welder's mask* and then building on that design. Oh wait, the military already has that and it works perfectly.
They aren't actually certified by NIJ, they are claiming an equivalency to NIJ that they don't actually have. The NIJ standards do take backface deformation into account.
@@stevencali3539 NIJ allows 44mm of backface deformation. That's still lethal if it happens on your face, which is why NIJ certified helmets aren't really a thing
I can imagine this to be a very effective "flak jacket" for your face while riding in a Humvee/MRAP or even inside and APC. It was able to stop a .45 so it would definitely protect against shrapnel from explosive weapons. If a mechanized crew were to be hit by an RPG, it would greatly limit the casualties within the troop cabin.
@@drewgriffing7447 Definitely. I know some nations tested masks back in ww1 but most of them were too heavy and ineffective. I'd imagine this new tech would greatly benefit ww1-style warfare because it can let you show your entire head as a machinegunner/sniper and you're practically covered 90% from shrapnel which will be the most common weapon. Even today, trenches are still seen in Ukraine border as of now and they can help reduce casualty from russian artillery.
I think that smooth surface makes much more sense as a shrapnel deflector more than anything. Even if you dont have any buldging or deformation which would mean you are absorbing not the armor, many blood vessels in your head would rupture and you would be brain dead in 5-10 seconds.
i mean look at the hunters from the division, they're cool as hell then again those guys take several shots to the head wearing these things but oh well
I like how it tends to deflect any face shot directly into the eye socket.
That's actually a feature. Would you rather be in a coma for 10 years and wake up a vegetable or just instantly killed?
@@horrifiedbystander2150 is that a trick question?
@@horrifiedbystander2150 I would rather instantly die bro
@@horrifiedbystander2150 yes
So does the skull.
To the question, “what is this even used for”? Keep in mind, 2004-2006 in Iraq we didn’t have armored vehicles and were driving about in soft skin Chevy Tahoe’s. Gunners were “porcupineing “ out doors with no glass. The Well gunners and Turret gunners were a little More exposed to IED blasts but we all ate one eventually. One of my well gunners took a small piece of shrapnel right above the eyebrow. Soon, many gunners were buying face armor to protect against IED blasts. I don’t know anyone that was hit while wearing the face armor but it was popular early on. If you are on patrol or clearing buildings the armor wouldn’t work because of vision restriction, but sitting in a back seat waiting to get hit by an IED on Sadoon Street, it was practical.
This was a cool tidbit
Vietnam era-flak jackets and even many helmets today are designed to stop shrapnel, not direct gun fire. it's not nothing.
Maybe another type of face mask but this design is horrible for anything. The shape deflects projectiles straight into your eyes.
Similar to the Hail Mary that was armor in WW1. It might seem impractical from today's viewpoint but when you're in the shit you'll try anything to survive. Another good example was pilots sitting on their flak vests
Reminds me of the study that found “helmets in WWI led to a high rate of TBIs.” Well yeah, but their heads weren’t being blown off.
I like to wear these when the flight attendants tell me to put on a mask. I don’t know why everyone starts screaming.
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Best comment here. 🤣
cringe
You unlock these by completing LightKeeper quests.
hate when i get shot through the eye holes. -300k
@@Soliinu it covers eyes didnt it
@@infiniteeeeeeeee247 I died to head eyes yesterday with this mask so no it doesnt
Armor works on the eyes, your mask was penetrated@@asio5303
@@asio5303by the way my friend dies in the eyes a lot with a 6 class ballistic shield so...
"We have a Korth, a $6,000 revolver for no reason..."
Most honest review I've seen so far.
Heh, found a member of the "just as good" gang. If you arent willing to put at least 5k into a gun, you obviously dont value your life.
@@russellelswick7238 lol
maruhin vs korth now that's a test I want to see.
@@russellelswick7238 or you just live in a country where you don't have to bring a tool into your home that's more likely to kill yourself or a loved one (i.e. accidents, suicide, spousal violence or a child fucking about with a gun) than an intruder.
@@JulianSloman You take a wrong turn somewhere?
The problem with this face mask is that the centre is the same thickness as the rest of the mask and rounds naturally get deflected towards the eyes due to the contours of the mask. I think the manufacturer could learn a lot by studying medieval armour.
Medieval breastplates were thicker in the centre and curved so that arrows would be deflected, they also had ridges at the top of the chest which would divert deflected arrows away from the users face. They need to make the face mask thicker in the middle and incorporate ridges to deflect rounds away from the eyeholes.
Well, they're Chinese, so whatever they make will be made in China. No matter what, made in China
@@CHRISTisKing197 makes sense then that the eyes are a lot smaller of a target
@@armaslohemadu everything made in China is very low quality. When purchasing protective equipment we should choose to do so from countries or so called philanthropists who believe that the world is overpopulated
I don't think it would help much, since your neck would be broken if shot with anything more powerful than .22
@@Je_QzcY3mN0 that's why deflection (what was used in medieval helmets) matters more than thickness.
“No one cared who I was until I put on the mask” Mike “Bane” Jones
*heavy breathing*
I bet this'll be on Mike's Instagram
@@jsnow11 it is Garand Thumb’s fake name. Garand Thumb is his legal name.
@@mouthbreather280 hahahahahaha.
"If I pull that off, will you die?"
As a tarkov player I love my youtube recommendation after 2 years of the release of this vids
Same here
Yo same I'm using the mask raid rn lol
Bro this Facemaske IS busted in tarkov i fucking survied 6 shoota of m855 and next RAID a t-5000 i think with m80 straight in the face and was still alive
maybe the developers will get this on their feed and the mask will be nerfed
@@peelohomsu6313 his mask is not an actual one btw the real ones are actually really good.
Remember guys like Clint Smith says “the problem with armor is you have to find someone competent enough to hit it” but in this case someone too competent to aim for the holes.
Or the neck, armpit, temple, femoral arteries....
Armor is great as long as your opponent is trained to shoot center mass. Goes back to dumb and dumber. We have a bullet proof vest. What if he shoots me in the face? Uhh let's hope he doesn't 😂
"I can't see shit out of this fucking thing" - Garand Thumb
"I can't see shit out of this thing - Garand Thumb" - Donut Operator
Oh didn't notice you were here lmao
"Dont ask me or mine, fer nothin"- other guy
@@MeatifiedMeeting """I can't see shit out of this thing - Garand Thumb" - Donut Operator" -WetIce
@@MeatifiedMeeting “““I cant see shit out of this thing” -Garand Thumb” -Donut Operator” -WetIce”
14:45 “You have to understand how dead you are.”
-The ATF at anyone shouldering a 15.99999” barrel
Or when the agent at the gun show doesn't realize chamber length is counted in barrel length.
>get 16" barrel
>file it down
>15.999" barrel
>profit
@@wurmturm Meanwhile in the Tax Fraud Pride camp: I have an abrasive rotary saw and you aren't my mom!
*does anything*
ATF: 14:45
Ah the good old American Terror Force
That's the vigil mask
Reyab
A fellow r6 siege player, huh?
Idoughgunenouiji
he used a gun from r6 too (usp45)
I'm not a doctor yet but i'm a resident and i did some rotation on traumatology
Although the mask fails at the job of protecting the face and even in the lower calibers you would be incapacitated
It is interesting to note that it does change the type of trauma and it greatly improves your chance of survival and recovery
In a penetrative wound such as a gunshot the damage is not dealt to the point of entry it is done all throught the trajectory making a cone shape wound that is far bigger on the exit
Because as the bullet looses momentum it transfers more and more energy
However using this mask you would get a wound similar to blunt force trauma and the damage in that case would be far more superficial
Which means that we could treat you like you had a car accident
In the every day hospital it is very rare to treat a gun shot wound, especially on the head or face because usually they arrive dead if they arrive at all
But someone who had a car accident is as regular as every friday night so we are more experienced to treat you
In the case someone got shot in the middle of the mask with a low caliber
I could send them to a cat scan search for internal bleeding and inflamation on the brain
I probably would have to send you to get emergency surgery to open the back of your skull to relieve the internal pressure and give room for the brain to expand
Then i'll have to realign your lower jaw and after some days get you another surgery to remove the upper jaw to replace it with a titanium bar and some dental prothesis
And after several reconstructive efforts and at least 4 months of rehabilitation you would be able to go back to your life with something similar to a nose and slight brain damage
Bad news you wont get to be a model but you would live
(If you get treatment withing the hour of getting shot)
The alternative would be not using the mask and the bullet would go straight to the brain killing you instantly
Edit: wow 8 months since this comment, i got a notification and read some insightful replies i will try to answer some of them in a reply of my own. Thanks to everyone who participated in this little debate of ours
What would be interesting is the types of neck injury and Coup contrecoup injury seen in these scenario. The shield may have limited the penetration but the energy is still transferred to the wearer. With a frontal hit and hyperextension of the cervical spine, I'd wager you would see a lot of Dens fractures.
With the description of damage and recovery road, I think I'd prefer the instant death.
The dead don't have to deal with the PTSD of getting shot in the face.
@@EvilPaladin11 well, i guess im bias towards living because i enjoy being alive
Lets agree to disagree
where do you smoke much bs... xD
DUDE WE ARE SEEING THE OUTCOME WITH LIVE AMMUNITION EXERCISES, GO SELL YOUR FAKE CHINESE ARMOR DOWN IN SOUTH AMERICA OR SOMETHING IM SURE THEYLL BE JUST AS FORGIVING WITH YOUR MISLEADING BULLSHIT ADVICE, NO MATTER HOW SOUND YOUR TRAJECTORY EXPLANATIONS IS ITS STILL DUMB AS FUCK . ANYONE TAKING A ROUND TO THE HEAD 9 TIMES OUT OF TEN DIES NO MATTER WHAT YOU HAVE WRAPPED AROUND IT
The masks did an impressive job, as the bullets, for the most part, didn’t actually penetrate. The shock wave, spinal and potential concussion/cerebral damage is another issue.
I do believe they hand these out in other countries for morale than anything. They show them it doesn't penetrate it and it boosts morale.
@@t.r.4496 like it can stop rocks and a club but it sure as shit ain't gonna stop your neck suddenly breaking because the force of that bullet just caused your head, namely your neck, to jerk violently at the speed of sound.
I mean, its still less damage than taking the bullet to the face, a small chance is better than no chance at all.
它的設計就防止小口徑傷害，大口徑的，足以毀滅你的頭的傷害，這面具也擋不住
There is less kinetic energy in a handgun bullet than a punch from a boxer
Additionally, Just because armor meets standards for deformation and penetration you have to also consider force transference and trauma. Most people focus only on penetration and deflection. But depending on what your hit with the force which transfers into your body would be similar to say a 4+ story fall concentrated in a small area which you would still not walk away from. This is why trauma padding is important for dispersing force evenly. There are many people who have armor rated for say a 1 oz slug and even a .50 but with no trauma padding you could still experience internal bleeding and ruptured organs and may still die before you even see EMS.
A year or so of working in the ED dealing with blunt force trauma from GSWs taught me not to skimp out. Always get the trauma padding.
Agreed just look at Medieval warfare A sword couldn't cut through breast plate armor so what did you use? A war hammer. A war hammer wasn't designed to puncture the breast plate but deliver kinetic force and damage the body. A warhammer could penetrate the armor but it was designed to kill you with the kinetic force.
People in the comments aren't realize that yeah the mask might not have been penetrated but the sheer kinetic force that bullet moves at and especially the denting of the mask will kill you. Sure the KJ on the bullet is lower than the KJ of a warhammer but the damage will be done. It's your face and brain thw weakest and most vital area in your body. So yeah the mask might not let the bullet penetrate but that kinetic energy will definitely kill you.
Plus the way the mask is designed the bullets get deflected into the eye which is a horrible design
People in the comments don't realize that just because the bullet doesn't penetrate doesn't mean it won't kill you.
@@lifeinjersey9846 cause harm to you? Yeah. Outright kill you? Nah... The Warhammer was design to deliver kinetic force upon a person but mostly would give them a concussion or topple the horse of the opponent. It wouldn't have enough force to kill the person.
Good points. I personally haven't tried either, but I imagine having a bullet decelerate against my head would be comparable to being smacked in the head by a hammer.
I was wondering if this could work
i want to develop a bulletproof mask with a layer of hyperline safe life defense armor, a layer of ceramic hexagonal flexible plate and a ultra thin layer of d3o to dissipate the force transfers,tell me what do you think please
This is why helmets have tons of padding and flimsy straps. They are designed to fly off your head.
The thing about modern body armour is that none of it really uses the knowledge gained from ancient armour designs. Some do but very, very rarely.
Medieval plate armour was designed in a way were the curvature of plates not only made things like swords and arrows deflect off the armour, the curves also made it so there were spots on your body, where there's an empty void between you and your armour.
These voids were mainly located on the chest, shoulders and head. This was especially important on helmets that covered your whole head, where the front and top section never actually make contact with your skull. So if you were to take a hit that deformed your face-shield, the gap between your face and the metal makes it less likely for the deformation to reach your bone and shatter your skull.
But not all armours in that time were made the same, so this mechanic varied greatly from armour set to armour set.
The main point is, you don't really see this method being used in modern body armour. Modern armour is always touching your body, except for helmets. But most helmets these days rarely use face-shields, save for riot helmets and some Russian helmets.
And without some gap between your chest and your armour, a vest that can stop a 50-BMG is rather redundant since it won't stop your rib-cage from shattering due to sheer kinetic trauma.
Keep in mind I'm not saying a gap between you and your armour would work perfectly all the time. I just think it would be better than having a bullet resistant plate pressed right against your sternum.
Or in the case of this video, right against your bloody face, where the deformation of a bullet impact sends your nasal cavity right into your fucking brain. If the mask was attached to a helmet and free floating away from your face, that would rarely happen.
Yes. I like the way you're thinking. One thing to keep in Mind though is, that the ballistics/mechanics of impact are usually dependent on the velocity of the projectile/ impactor in a very complex way. Most if not all materials (like steel (Armor)) exhibit some form of visco-elasticity which means, in most basic terms, that their hardness varies with the speed of the imparted deformation. At very high speeds (like supersonic bullet speeds and above) even solid metals can behave more like a fluid and deflection through angled impact becomes less viable/ effective.
Thusly I think it wouldn't be entirely sufficient to copy many of the old principles unmodified as, of course, a swing from a poleaxe or even a shot from a powerful war bow or a musket ball will behave radically different to modern firearms and bullets. In perhaps unforseen or even counterintuitive ways even.
Then again I'm sure there is a whole lot of interesting research about this, which is, of course, tax payer funded, but which none of us can ever hope of reading up about.
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Yup but medieval armor was cluncky and pretty much useless on confined spaces, wich pretty much would make it useless on modern combat.
@@tanaziolopez1936 for well made armour this isn't the case at all. These plenty of videos on TH-cam of people in medieval armour doing push ups and sprinting and all
@@tanaziolopez1936 🤦♂️
@@tanaziolopez1936 Wrong.
It’s never too soon for gun safety, Alec.
"Boom Roasted" - Ben Askren
Well it is for the lady he murdered.
HE SAID HE DIDNT DO IT, HATEFUL DRUMPFER
@@codiefitz3876 I feel kind of bad knowing how poorly sarcasm translates in text and how people would also unironically put those words together.
But it sure as hell was too late for him
tbh if you see this as a "protective mask" rather than "bulletproof mask" theyre quite impressive.. i mean, wearing this mask vs wearing nothing against something like shrapnel would be invaluable.
The mask literally directs all of the shratnel and bullet fragments directly into your eyes. Your eyes are a flesh hole to your brain lol.
I'd rather wear an actual helmet, though...
@@wellendowedplatypus9024 if the top was sheared off then it'd be helmet compatible. they must have some kind of adapted helmet for these in the works. definitely not meant to deflect point-blank dead-on rounds though, and should not be rated as such. definitely seems like this is more for strays and shrapnel.
plus, even if a guy gets dinged by a 9mm and it shatters his jaw, hes still likely going to survive. provided the gunman doesn't walk up and finish him off.
@@attilabubby But if the situation call for a full helmet, such a helmet will always be more resilient than half-helmet + mask, even in the front (think of a motorbike helmet design but with stronger materials). If you want frontal protection, include it in the helmet, a separate mask piece
will always, inherently be less effective.
@@attilabubby exactly. The guy in the video is missing a major point. Even if your jaw/nose/face are grievously injured, there’s an infinitely greater chance you’ll survive from those injuries than a bullet through the brain. That said I think the biggest issue with these masks would be limited visibility.
The funny thing about non-penetrable masks is that one's neck will be broken much faster. It's not only a matter of not allowing bullet to enter the head, but also managing the rest of delivered kinetic energy. It's why, e.g. Russian "Sphere" anti-ballistic helmets look like a lollipop with paratrooper's head inside...
We share the same concerns...!!!
No chance
EXACTLY!
> The funny thing about non-penetrable masks is that one's neck will be broken much faster.
That is an old myth dating back to WW1 german helmets. You will not break your neck.
I'd rather a broken neck with a chance of survival that my head popped open like a balloon filled with jelly
I can understand the PRINCIPLE they were trying to achieve. “Bulletproof” armor with a contour so that the bullet deflects off the curved surface. It’s similar to an armadillo, which if you’re shooting with a .22 you have to hit it between the bands, because the bullets will (most of the time) ricochet off the armadillo’s shell, and it’s not even made of anything as strong as this mask.
Same with turkey feathers, I've personally seen their feathers deflect arrows and shotgun slugs, it doesn't stop everything, but if you hit it just right it'll just deflect
@@Thekulprit92sounds like jive Turkey talk
@@LordCannon there is a reason they use arrowheads made to decapitate the turkey
armadillo number 1 deadly animal
Definitely not number 1, but deadlier than you think and for a completely different reason. They carry leprosy.
The back-face deformation observed when removing the mask (or most any type of armor) is less than the actual full deformation (it snaps back). This is why proper armor/helmet testing SOP/TOPs utilize temperature-conditioned and calibrated clay, with specific support, to accurately capture the event. The clay is then scanned with a laser to create a 3D solid model (similar to a CAD file), from which measurements are made. Since the clay properties, projectile before & after mass, and muzzle velocity are known and controlled for, a little math provides details such as energy delivered, and is then fed into injury prediction equations/curves that are based on further supporting testing done over the last 25 years. This is done for various thoracic/pulmonary injuries, neck, cranial, ocular, auditory, and other injury mechanisms, including ballistic and blast overpressure inputs.
Holy crap. That's a lot of science. Thank you Mr. Gorilla man
Thanks
Thank you wise gorilla
What's your conclusion, egghead?
@@f3uibeghardt522 That it is not as bad in real situations, avocadohead.
Backface deformation was actually part of how plate armor was defeated in "old world" combat, too. Dent the plate into the chest, crush ribs. Dent the helmet into the head, well...that's as good as no helmet, honestly.
It's why most common soldiers had weapons like a poleaxe, rather than a sword.
That's why I believe one thing very firmly, "BLUNT IS BEST UNGA UNGA"
@@blockgunk Pluralize that and you're closer to the mark, I think.
@Turaglas 'course not, lol. But whether you're underarmored and swinging a pole, or equally set and halfswording with the "one end or the other" plan, you're gonna have to try.
actually breastplates had buldges or gaps between torso and metal plates. same for helmets, they were suspended on leather straps. You never wore metal directly against your body (when possible)
plate armor was defeated by firearms and cheap soldiers with polearms and knives :)
and by the way... if someone would hit a helmet so hard to cave in the steel enough, to crush the head underneath... the pure force of the blow alone would probably smash the brain against the skull in such a violent matter, that you'll die instantly anyway :)
The vision loss from wearing any mask is a huge detriment, but also I think face armor could be made much better.
I don't think we'll see good face armor until we develop glass strong enough to take the round but light enough to not be an issue.
Yeah, I think if there was a visored sallet style helmet made of this it could be pretty effective especially since it could use that riot helmet plexiglass stuff where the eye-slit is and not have a giant ricochet zone that sends stuff right into your eyes.
No way any mask is gonna offer enough rigidity to prevent devastating injury from the impact of any bullet over a 22 lr
Antifog is always a problem lol
Transparent aluminum would be very useful, maybe.
It'll save your life more than likely, especially at longer range engagements and not CQC. But it would be great for fragmentations and shrapnel.
I would love to see a ballistic torso vs historic weapons. Particularly bayoneting and shooting at the same time.
Naughty.. I like it. M1897 Winchester?
You ever watch deadliest warrior a few years back on spike?
I’ve been meaning to make up some gelatin blocks and mag dump my antiques into them. Stuff like 41 Swiss, 43 Beaumont, 8mm kropatschek.
The National Museum of Health & Medicine in Maryland has a fantastic collection of civil war injuries, along with JFK's shirt, fragments of Lincoln's skull, and a plethora of other historical medical obscura. Some of it is macabre, lots of abnormal specimens.
I used to have a video of 75mle vs live pig against a wall but that drive locked up in 2008. You do not bayonet and fire at same time.
According to one Marine friend of mine that wore masks/early gen mandible armor on Humvee gun turrets in Iraq, they "work" in so much as they keep everything together so it's still possible to have an open casket funeral, but beyond that, no, masks don't work.
Tbh, I see the mandibles being pretty good for fragments and low velocity projectiles but yeah shits not gonna stop much.
They're meant for pistol ammo shot from pistol length barrels as far as I know, I'm fairly sure Iraqi army didn't run around with makarovs and glocks lol
The new mandible can stop rifles if I remember correctly. It's pretty neat.
Oh damn I just recalled a clip from a cop's bodycam where a dude in high quality body armour, one of these masks and with some diy protection for the legs and arms went nuts, stopped the traffic and was brandishing an ar (or even shooting at people?). The cop pulled over, grabbed the service rifle from the trunk, one-tapped him in the head, secured the scene. It was all over the news
@@Sk0lzky even then I'm sure it's a lot like getting smashed in the face with a sledgehammer. You're still going down, potentially permanently.
Always just assumed that these things were meant to be more for fragmentation and intimidation than directly stopping rounds.
yup
not even intimidation, but wearing masks changes how people behave. If you want your police force to be more violent, for example, you would give them masks because of the psychological effects.
@@forty9r9r7 yeah people tend to be violent when they can’t fucking see anything
@@forty9r9r7 this commonly held belief stems from the Stanford Prison Experiment.
Unfortunately, it was not a legitimate experiment. The person conducting the experiment actively got involved with it, and encouraged the prison guards to act less humanely.
So we can’t know if wearing masks or mirrored glasses actually has a dehumanising effect, since the Stanford Prison Experiment is biased & unusable, and no other experiments on the topic have ever been completed.
@Andrew Ryan really? look up taiwan soldier ballistic mask
I mean.... I'd rather have a broken jaw/lip when being shot by a 9mm than that 9mm going through and severing my spine, tongue etc. Even the 45 was stopped. Sure you'd likely have a TBI/Concussion... but isn't that preferable to, you know, being dead and all?
Again, like, which would you rather have? A 44 going through your face/neck? Or the 44 being stopped and you having facial reconstructive surrgery? I'm pretty sure the manufacturer of this armor doesn't ever claim you'll walk away scott free. Theres no free lunch. You take a 44 to your unprotected face, then you're almost certainly dead. You take a 44 to your face with this mask on, you might actually live. So... I don't understand why these guys thought this armor was unsussesful. Even in things like modern tanks, getting hit isn't supposed to just 'Bounce' off the tank armor and cause no damage.
@@carlpolen7437 because it is unsuccessful. Modern body armor works by absorbing and dispersing the energy of a bullet across a larger surface area of the vest. The plates you insert into a flak vest work on almost the same principle. However, instead of "catching the bullet in multiple nets" like the flak vest and soft body armor does the plates operate in a 2 step process. 1. The plates shatter and/or erode the bullet into smaller fragments. 2. The plate backing acts as another body armor vest by absorbing and dispersing the rest of the kinetic energy of the smaller fragments. You are still going to get blunt force trauma from light to severe bruising, cracked or broken bones, or even internal bleeding and organ damage. With these masks yes they stop the bullet, but they stop it with deflection and deformation and not absorption and dispersion. All that deformation is going to fracture and/or crush your skull. You'll walk away from the .22 but that's it. It'll still be lights out with anything bigger as the mask will act like a bolt stunner (or cattle gun), or act like you got hit in the head/face with a hammer being swung at 800-1500 ft/sec (the fastest a human can swing a hammer is 16 ft/sec and you can see how devastating that is).
@@carlpolen7437 Because when you're fighting in the jungle of south america, a TBI is just a slower death. I'd rather go out quick and painlessly than suffer for hours in the jungle.
“Because in south america, everybody and their mom has an FAL”
As a Brazilian this is so spot on. It’s not uncommon to see confrontations between the police and drug trafickers with both using FALs here, this weapon is like grass here.
It grows there naturally
@@mothsareprettycool The famous Brazilian FAL trees
If you look closely at the Brazilian statue he has a fal in each hand.
I want that grass.
I'd do anything to own an FAL that easily in the US here, such a h0t rifle
These are more used for a psychological effect. They're similar to the Samurai face masks. They provided a little protection, but were clearly more geared toward scaring the piss out of their adversaries. Imagine encountering a bunch of armor clad baddies, all wearing those. It would have a profound psychological effect on you. The thing about masks is their ability to hide visible fear. Your enemy is faceless and unsympathetic. That can be demoralizing for the enemy. There is, however, a downside. Because you're a faceless enemy, your opponent won't see you as a fellow human being. Therefore , showing you mercy is not on the itinerary.
Yeah but once you start to kill ‘em and realize how they are normal, the effect would wain.
... a balaclava would have the same effect and not be ridiculous
@@taylorbennion3706 they don't have quite the same reaction, but if you disagree I'll agree to with you.
@Real NEWS I'm sure that is true for a lot of instances, but it was and still is pretty effective
well said
This did much better than I thought it would. The second he said “eBay” I expected the 9mm to punch through.
Same
Just keep in mind somebody could grab you by the throat and beat the s*** out of you doesn't matter if you have a mask on or not,,we all know mask dont do shit.
@@niveklor1456 its for bullets not domestic abuse bro
@@niveklor1456 there's no sign of intelligent life in your comment. Tbh dude with the mask could just headbut you, coin can flip either way wannabe tough guy.
@@niveklor1456 exactly, you can use bulletproof vest, helmet and safety boot, but keep in mind someone can just grab you by the throat and beat the shit out of you, doesn't matter if you have these thing on or off.
😂
if you didn't know this mask is now in escape from tarkov with a GOST 4 rating
im came back to this video just for this comment. upvote kappa
Nothing like a dude with a lab coat telling you, “I’m a 100% sure you’ll die, if you shot in the face with this. (Holds 45)” has me dying.
The .22 and the 7.62 rounds going through the eye hole is interesting because in terms of medieval full face helmets with eye slots like bascinets, it was known that arrows could often be guided into the eye via the holes. The slow-mo of 22 shots makes it look like something like that happened here.
Yep it deflected straight into the eye. It was slowed way down though think I'd take a fucked eye compared to a full speed shot to the cheek?
you know, i thought the 7.62 went in the eye
Most later helmets were designed with protrusions around the eye holes to deflect the arrows away from that vulnerable area. These shitty ballistic masks are why.
Funny that you specifically mention bascinets, because the scenario you are describing is practically impossible with those. Medieval helmets actually had a lot of thought put into them, and the curves guide projectiles away from the openings. Nearly all bascinets have eye openings smaller than the diameter of an arrowhead, so it's very unlikely to get hit in the face.
@@goreobsessed2308 Really? I mean a broken orbital bone is not the end of the world. There is nothing vital directly behind the cheek.
Using a "tactical" close range 50cal for things such as "home defense" will probably defeat them easily.
Flintlock vs faceshield? 🤔
@@dominickrueger1887 You use a Musket for home defense. I use anti material. We are not the same.
@@WonkOfWonkyness you use an anti material, i use a panzerfaust. WE are not the same.
@@dominickrueger1887 Did you forget the ü in your name? Here take it.
@@WonkOfWonkyness if i was born in germany i would happily accept your offer. However, i was born in America so i must decline.
I would love to see you test that again with different distances :)
I love how the face shield deflects projectiles *into* the eyeholes
I was about to say the same thing! Major design flaw. Even armor makers in the Middle Ages figured this out and designed their helmets to deflect blows AWAY from the eyes.
Do you like eye holes?
@@wizcorn9958 its curved in around the eye holes
@@brycealthoff8092 bruh bullets are a lot different than arrows lol. This is some cheap no name design, this isn't a premium product.
@@Gongolongo Different in some ways, but the same design principles apply. Even modern body armor is angled in a way to defect bullet fragments away from your face. This mask actually does the opposite around the eyes. My point is that the design is flawed. I wasn’t debating the low quality materials.
This mask looks like it's dry Kevlar. Not soaked with resin/epoxy. Makes the armor lighter but much more susceptible to backface deformation.
Best purchased in bundles on eBay
Woe woe woe, you can’t do backface anymore bro.
Yeah it’s a stupid idea lmao
@@Meekmillan damnit, made me choke on my trail mix 💀
@@Meekmillan You straight up just fucked me up for the rest of the day
I love it when Flannel Daddy puts on the lab coat and sciences for us....makes my brain feel less smooth.
Labcoat adds +17 IQ easily
And the pitts Make you see atoms
Still smooth, just a little less smooth.
On Sunday mornings/afternoons my brain sometimes feels like steel wool.
But the lab coat is still open saying “I am super cereal Science, but I still want to be your friend.”
why are you playing vigil?
😂
This dude loves his booger sugar
"If you're wearing a facemask, you're probably going into a situation where somebody has a FAL."
Thinking about where in the world law enforcement are actually wearing these, this statement seems astonishingly true!
Can't go wrong with a FAL.
Played hockey most of my life and I can confirm with 100% accuracy that taking a fast moving projectile to your face shield/bird cage/Goalie mask...is not a "pleasant" experience... ever...
as a baseball catcher, slapped in the face by a foul ball still makes you see stars despite the mask
Those mask should have a one of those transparent face protectors, like the one riot gear uses.
@Lala does the face mask protect you from things transmitted on this site?
@@nauticatom lol
The mask looks like the first goalie masks😊
I love how the contours of this thing direct the 22 shot from the cheek *directly into the eyeball* …
meanwhile in EFT, this is one of the best face shields lol
in rust as well lol
THANK YOU for the better slowmo footage. Showing it once, backing it up, and showing it again is MUCH better than before. Excellent upgrade boys.
Several years ago, (late 90's) we were given similar looking face shields to be worn while executing dangerous search warrants. This was after an entry team cop was shot in the face during a warrant service. These masks were much thicker than the ones you're testing appear to be. It was possible to wear it with a standard kevlar helmet if you pushed the helmet up a little and let the mask cover your forehead instead of the front part of the helmet covering it, but it wasn't a good or comfortable fit. If the straps were adjusted to hold it in place it squished your nose and the whole scheme was awkward at best. We wore them on only one entry and found out we couldn't see very much at all. We decided it was better to take our chances and be able to see what's going on around us and we sent them back to the closet.
Serpico?
@@PC-vq5ud damn that is going back a bit. I remember watching that movie when it first came out in the early 70”s.
I remember doing research and seeing the thick Kevlar masks you guys had
tactical entries using equipment that you never tested before wtf
@@chaindog82 the 90s were like that
I always thought a chest-mounted face shield would be more practical if you really needed head armour. A ballistic bevor or gorget, essentially.
Something like a ballistic helmet visor that rises to your face but is supported by the chest plate. Turning your head would be easier without the weight.
your idea is actually kinda legit tho, you should email a ballistic company or smth
@@lewildknight9864 there is chest mounted neck armor, but chest mounted face armor would have you walking around like Darth Vader as you wouldnt be able to turn your head so its not very practical id say
@@thesadslav419 I would think you can turn your head, though your right in that movement will be hindered
@@lewildknight9864 so they can steal the idea and profit without him receiving a cent?
@@thesadslav419 I think its more akin to knigtly bevor, that would protect lower part of the face and neck. You would still be able to turn your head side to side, only looking down would be problematic.
I didn't understand why he was so intent on making the mask look bad. Clearly the analysis was not completely biased. In urban conflicts where revolvers and low caliber pistols are generally used, this mask could really be the difference between life and death. Bearing in mind that in addition to preventing penetration, the force of the blunt impact is obviously reduced due to distribution.
except for the part where if they shoot anywhere below your forehead the bullet will somehow get deflected right through your eye for some reason
Its because it's Chinese, simple as that buddy.
@@apocalypticachmodiomy local swat team uses these and old buddy survived 44. Magnum to the cheek 100%.
His bone was slightly fractured, but he was able to talk and move fine and needed no surgery.
But this guy was on steroids like a UFC fighter, so he can probably take a good beating lol.
@@apocalypticachmodiothe design isn't inherently Chinese btw.
@@thevotemanidk about the deflecting to the eye part, because yeah that sucks, but certainly as it is i'd say these face masks are cost effective, because even for rifles if your expecting a flak vest to stop their bullets and yet this thing to have no potential of saving your life at engagement ranges (certainly not letting you tank and fight) then give me that invulnerability blunt your smoking.
Problems I'd identify is that the masks are clearly meant for intimidation due to the visibility constraints and the fact the eyes are entirely exposed while we also know the mask doesn't combine well with any additional optical equipment.
A simpler redesign that leaves more of a "eyeband" where a "bullet proof" visor can be placed allowing for better visual and maybe a helmet designed to work with this, and the whole thing will be great.
Also to note, the mask is predominantly Taiwanese, any Chinese using this are purely using it for intimidation as their army as of 2019 still hadn't made body armor of any kind standard issue. Thus the reforms they started (IDK if they'll follow through with em) where they would downsize their army and issue "upgraded" gear to their smaller, and now presumably more elite, army's forces and which would feature standardized body armor, an new rifle (though the one initially proposed has already been pulled due to major flaws that became known once in the field) and allegedly better comms coordination.
I think that historic helmet styles might be the only solution for face protection, deflection more than actual stopage.
Yeah if you get a bullet to the face, let’s just say it’s not your lucky day. Regardless of what you’re wearing
I always expected ballistic mask to have more deflective angles , if you can get bruised or broken ribs with a vest it doesn't take much imagination to figure that a mask probably isnt gonna help a whole lot especially if you consider the whipping effect that could sever the brain spine connection.
@@tomtom7955 yeah.
Pyramid Head from Silent Hill is the only way to do it right.
@@brenton9492 Yup. But there is record of police officer getting shot in the face with shotgun. He wore helmet with face protection and wallked out of the shooting alive.
@@gameboyterrorysta6307 Riot Face Shield?
I imagine these masks are significantly more effective against shrapnel from traps and IEDs which would explain the military usage. Explosive devices were, are, and will continue to be the biggest cause of conflict casualties by far and away. Much like when the Germans introduced the Stahlhelm in 1916 even though they were pretty thin and in no way shape or form bulletproof they reduced the number of head injuries from lateral shrapnel by 90 percent. But that begs the question "why not just wear a helmet then?" Which like yeah you would still be significantly better off with any crappy off brand kevlar. The only thing these masks have going for them is in combination with a balaclava they're pretty darn bad guy cool.
Shrapnel was my first thought as well. I think potentially they could also be useful as a psychological boost to the soldiers as well.
Shrapnel; yes, but concussive wave; no ( depending on proximity regarding IED in both instances )
@@spookite Absolutely, but close enough even a specially designed bomb suit will not save a person. Its the shrapnel that flies far and wide that injures or kills the unprotected person.
@@spookite shrapnel is what kills most often in the case of an IED though, it's what can shatter through vehicles, clothing, armor, and even walls
@@serbianspaceforce6873 depends on the type of IED and said payload of IED type.
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Thanks man! Trying to keep it fun
@@GarandThumb ok
The manufacturer kind of found a loophole. The NIJ ratings are for *body* armor. According to the spec, the maximum deflection is 44mm/1.73". For body armor sure, cracked ribs but you'll live. For a face shield we saw the results in the video :D So it's only NIJ IIIA if you put it on your chest.
A literal funnel guiding bullets straight into the eye.
its shape alone is designed to deflect blows but ok , and having holes for eyes is obvious so that you can , you know , see
@@Tokiiplaysguitar im pretty sure he was referring to it deflecting the .22 into the eye hole
@@Tokiiplaysguitar The .22 flew right into its eye
I think it should be doable to tweak the design around the eye holes a little bit to deflect them in another direction.
But who needs two eyes? Eyesight is absolutely overrated /s
@@bastiannenke9613 yeah a gen 2 with ridges around the eyes to catch deflecting rounds may be the next logical step
Almost all of the rounds would cause a basal skull fracture. The 22 and maybe the 9mm would be survivable. But the 12ga was brutal the amount of energy it hit with.
yeah, hard to live through even if the bullets don't penetrate
That's why you should wear a helmet with it
@@themendorean might as well envelop yourself in one of those full-body condoms from the naked gun; but made out of kevlar instead =/
guess what the three most common guns Americans buy (for home defense), the .22 (mostly in rifle form), the 12-gauge shotgun, and the .357 magnum (better range than .45, and stronger than the 9mm). Guess what country China is most likely going to have future trouble with... America. (This doesn't include the police and the armed forces)
You do understand that this was from point blank range?
Agreed that this is maybe not the best solution, but it will give you some kind of protection.
Helmets were introduced back to infantry war after about some 250 or something years.
Body armour as in flak jackets and kevlar got reintroduced also.
The high speed camera is an excellent way to illustrate the energy transfer from the round, to the “armor”, to the face. Awesome.
As much as it can be considered "wish armour," interestingly it does its job and prevents you from immediate death by bullet. Which from my knowledge is the case for any armour whether on your noggin or on your chest, you ain't coming out of a bullet unscathed whether you were wearing no armour at all and it goes straight through you or if you are wearing armour and it just breaks a couple bones. Yes its shit armour but rather than treating a gun wound doctors would be more suited to your injury which I'd imagine isn't too dissimilar to a car crash.
5:12 Another thing with armor is that the way it's shaped affects the angle at which things fly off of it. When the projectile hits, it almost looks like the mask's own design is forcing it into the eyehole, in slow motion.
That’s because the human skull is evolutionary designed in a way to redirect blows away from the brain the brow and cheekbones protect the eye socket from blunt force trauma. Humans are a 2,000,000 year old species but recorded history is only a fraction of that time so most ware-fare for a long time was clubs bones, stone axes and hand to hand combat between our prehistoric ancestors.
@@nova8797 Okay.
I was referring to the angles of the armor mask literally forcing the projectile into the eyehole, though.
The angles present on ANY piece of armor affect the direction in which things are going to fly off, and the design of this mask appears like it's vulnerable to bullets being redirected into the user's eyes by the mask itself.
Also, for at least several thousand of it, we wore armor, so I don't see your point, frankly.
Legit even some well made sets of medieval full plate armor have a piece lining the upper torso to prevent arrows from flying up after hitting the chest piece and striking the wearer in the face
And that one piece does it's job well to an incredible degree by deflecting the arrows to the sides and otherwise away
Who ever came up with this specific ballistic mask design probably doesn't know a damn thing about armor
It is from chyna... So they probably made it that way on purpose.
they vould add in ballistic glasses for the eyes.
Perfectly illustrating that armor stopping a bullet and preventing you from being killed are two different things.
That that depends on the understanding you have of what impact actually is of a rifle round..
If you mitigate the sound waves or mass movement of air molecules.. then you can stop any round I know how to build it my father taught me
@@mjolnirswrath23 ....what in the word salad
@@sa-amirel-hayeed699 sound waves my friend 70% of all energy in kinetic form to push a turbine bullets, Pistons etc rockets is sound waves not thermal energy. ..
If your decibel ratings are higher than the decibels of the impact Force being applied concussion Force AKA sound waves or mass movement of air molecules of which sound is a universal binding force of all matter itself for instance the decibel ratings on the surface of the Sun are in the trillions the infrasonic frequencies of the earth that produces earthquakes in magma etc is below the human range of hearing and frequency but the decibels produced can move mountains..
My father was an electro acoustic engineer and acoustic architectural engineer who served three tours in Vietnam as ECM reconnaissance..
He also held seven us patents I actually helped him develop a hemispherical speaker driver..
Just like if I wrap a tweeter around the tip of a barrel and produce decibels higher by even 1%, then the total output of the rifle around being fired I can mitigate around 90% of the sound being produced...
As I am now canceling out the sound waves now the funny part is I can do this in a below human range of hearing whereby unless you have a oscilloscope you're not going to find it or hear it but the decibels as in the molecules that I am moving in Mass will still cancel out the sound waves this is how soundwave noise cancellation technology actually works it was established as a fact of Science in 1946 by the war department and infrasonic weapons research and development.
Depending on the caliber, it could mean the difference between an open or close-casket funeral.
Well you could do an open casket either way….. just put a fresh mask on the corpse …
@@francisschweitzer8431 how do you put a mask on a headless corpse?
The point of this is to actually trick soldiers into a sense of security, giving them more confidence. Definitely not to scare the enemy.
This is what I came here to say
It's worth considering that these were all head-on shots from a very short range. This kind of thing could potentially save you from death or permanent injury from a shot that barely nicks you at a far enough range though. There's definitely room for improvement in the design but I don't think they're useless as a concept.
A bucket with eyeholes is probably as effective though.
It is so funny, so now how about you try it without the face mask right? See if he survives then?
If far enough away, it will kick your head back, knock you out and you'll fall backwards. Next round is going in your dick. The best way to survive is to not get shot and to do that you'll actually need to be able to see people who'll shoot you. You'd literally be better off walking around with a high rated assault shield instead of a stupid mask.
Still not worth the loss of vision though...
@@TheMaw365 There's plenty of combat footage on the internet at this point, it feels like half the time soldiers being shot have no idea where they're getting shot from anyway because enemy combatants are half a mile away in a bush on the horizon or hiding under a rock or somewhere you wouldn't see them regardless. If I'm being shot and I can't see the enemy either way, I'm taking the questionably designed clunky face armor
I feel like everything below the .44 was actually fairly survivable. You're going to be knocked out and your face is going to be messed up, but it still does take a lot to kill someone, and a blunt brain injury isn't an instant death. If you were part of a police action and got popped in the face from a handgun, presumably your buddies are going to be able to drag you out and get you to a hospital. I have seen some truly gnarly face, skull, and brain injuries that people have survived. Like, if that dude was able to survive jumping off that pier and cracking his face open like the Predator on the concrete dock below it, then a smashed nose isn't going to do you in.
However, if you're talking about a remote military action or solo defense, you're going lights out for everything except the .22, and that's as good as dead anyway.
The other side of it is that in order to get that protection, you're suffocating inside of a sarcophagus you can't see out of, probably making you more likely to get shot in the face anyway.
As many people have already commented, it's kind of like those old thin steel wwI helmets, it's more for shrapnel and debris than bullets.
Just like hard hats are for bumping your head...not absorbing any kinetic energy.
Kind of pointless then since a helmet is going to stop a hell of a lot more deadly shrapnel than a forward facing mask
@@simonnachreiner8380 Surely there are, or there is the potential, to develop a helmet that can be worn with this mask.
@@CrossBreedTacoHD there are ballistic face shields that work better and provide better visibility that attach onto some helmets
@@classdpersonnel115
I understand there are other brands and designs.
I'm going off the basis that this one in particular is popular out in the world (I don't actually know if that is true, that is simply the impression the video left me), ie if there is a practical application many find this mask can accomplish (like being used against shrapnel) if its prudent to do so, they can easily wear a helmet with one of these masks.
Essentially making that particular criticism a moot point in my opinion.
Paramedic here - even on the lower caliber rounds, a lot of that nasty trauma you're seeing around the nose and mouth will absolutely result in a compromised airway. And as a medical professional, I can assure you that's, like, suuuuper bad for you.
False.
@@ParanoidBarnOwl false.
@@POTUSJimmyCarter If you think a broken nose is incapacitating you should be fired and have your license stripped.
@@ParanoidBarnOwl
You're not going to listen to anything I say, so here's an excerpt from an article published in the Journal of Emergency Medical Services. Since TH-cam doesn't like links, the title is "Assessing and Managing Facial Trauma", the author is Robert Girardeau, who is among other things a flight medic. Date of publication 06/09/2015.
"Patients with suspected or obvious mandibular or maxillary fracture are at an increased risk for airway compromise. Providers should be extremely cautious of airway deterioration any time a patient with maxillofacial injury is also presenting with dysphonia and oropharyngeal edema. In fact, anytime a patient presents with upper chest, neck, or facial trauma, and also has trouble speaking, hoarseness, and/or drooling, providers must be extremely suspicious for airway deterioration and the need for rapid intubation and possibly surgical airway maneuvers."
@@ParanoidBarnOwl and since I know you're still going to keep blabbering, here's an excerpt of a paper from the National Institute of Health, titled "Airway Management of the Patient With Maxillofacial Trauma: Review of the Literature and Suggested Clinical Approach". The authors are an anaesthesiologist, an emergency trauma surgeon, and two maxillofacial surgeons.
"Posteroinferior displacement of a fractured maxilla parallel to the inclined plane of the base of the skull may block the nasopharyngeal airway.
A bilateral fracture of the anterior mandible may cause the fractured symphysis and the tongue to slide posteriorly and block the oropharynx in the supine patient.
Fractured or exfoliated teeth, bone fragments, vomitus, blood, and secretions as well as foreign bodies, such as dentures, debris, and shrapnel, may block the airway anywhere along the oropharynx and larynx.
Hemorrhage from distinct vessels in open wounds or severe nasal bleeding from complex blood supply of the nose may also contribute to airway obstruction.
Soft tissue swelling and edema which result from trauma of the head and neck may cause delayed airway compromise.
Trauma of the larynx and trachea may cause swelling and displacement of structures, such as the epiglottis, arytenoid cartilages, and vocal cords, thereby increasing the risk of cervical airway obstruction."
In my country, the troops that actually use this mask also have helmets (like the GIGN ones), this mask is only used to hide their identity during parades, there used to be a version that could be fitted with night vision goggles.
The more you know. Thanks.
Well if nothing else it certainly looks intimidating!
U could just wear a ski mask. I think thatll be more comfortable... hell and facemask we wear is good to cover identity 🤣
Even though the skull got busted up, I'm still impressed by how well the mask resisted being penetrated. I really thought the 9mm was gonna go right through it
Problem with that is you may survive the shot if it goes in and out of parts of your face but this mask almost ensures you die if not from the immediate impact but from the concussion force which it seems to totally put on your whole skull!!??
@@daltiejul oh I'm not praising it's protectivity. I'm just saying that my expectations for it's durability were so excruciatingly low, that even what little it accomplished was impressive in comparison to said expectations
@@daltiejul ya, I’d chance taking a smashed mug over a threw & threw through my thinker bits, your not waking up from 99.9999% a that shit, tho you’re basically taking one a my sledgehammer swings which is absolutely definitely not recommend, tho if at all possible if I can continue to not catch any of the above? 👍🏻👍🏻 WAY ⤴️
Yeah, well you are still going to end up with a deformed face or skull. And it is highly likely you will have a broken neck. I guess the benefit you are pointing out is that a family may be able to have an open-casket funeral for whoever decides to try this out on the playing field. 😉
He said in the video it was firing hollow points. FMJ absolutely would have.
PFC: 1SG, the LT is wearing a lab coat over his OCP’s and stunner shades again.
1SG: Jesus Christ…
It's not supposed to be heavy enough to completely block the bullet, but able to deflect the bullet so it doesn't penetrate inside. That 9mm hollowpoint would have shredded the insides of his brain, but instead he will probably have a moderate concussion and be incapacitated. The mask in general is also there to just help deflect stray shrapnel, from artillery and drones amongst other things. I don't think it's the worst idea tbh.
It's been said already but I'll say it again - these test results are going to be skewed by shooting the same mask over and over with increasingly bigger caliber rounds. A better approach would be to have setup a fresh target with a new mask for each weapon. Budget to do so may understandably be a factor, but it's hard to take tests like this seriously when they're designed incorrectly.
Hes holding a Korth, hes got the budget.
@@alastor8091 facts.
we also know the mask is shit considering the bullet exited on the 44
Its the same thing with every channel out there... They get one armor plate and then shred it with an arsenal of weapons asking stupid questions like will it hold an RPG blast etc....
@@Cnupoc not really that serious, if you are taking advice on whether or not to use a particular piece of body armour or equipment from a youtuber then i would question your sanity.
I'm not sure if its just me but I feel like the way the mask is shaped (especially around the nose and eyes), basically just forces all of the bullets that aren't big enough to fully penetrate the mask to ricochet towards the eyes and upper face (brain) of the person wearing it. Amazing design
Yeah it’s like funneling the bullets straight into the eyes.
Pretty big oversight. Lots of Middle Ages helmets have eye protection angles outwards in order to keep object from going into the eye.
Could be worse, you could have like... cones coming out from the eyeholes to catch bullets and shrapnel.
@Jasim Mohammad Saleh "middle ages" you mean the ages where they mostly used swords and other hand held weapons?
My man @@daniell5740 forgot that firearms and arrows were used in the middle ages. Also, eye slits can give slight protection from thrusts with other weapons as well, though that would be a hell of a lucky miss for the recipient.
Actually, yes the big thing of that version is that you can't wear a helmet with it. But they do make a version that works with most MICH helmets, and high cuts.
I think a mask that works with helmets has way worse properties. Being round helps a lot with distributing force and preventing it from bending more. For example, this mask protects the chin and you can lay it flat on a surface, even though its not optimal shape.
@@Ormusn2o and the center of it will probably buckle under your head's weight lol
Bro they look like the masks of the Hunters in Tom clancy's the Division.
Im actually incredibly surprised that its able to deflect all of those projectiles. Maybe if it were improved upon to actually protect against deformation, itd be a better idea
maybe an extreme conical shape coming out to a point with upward lips around the eye portions lol
@@Name-cz5jj i understand deformation is a necessity for shock absorption. I just meant the massive deformation that the mask gets could do well with less
Who cares if it deflects a bullet when your head is gonna get rattled so hard your brain turns to jelly?
Plenty of times it was good enough to deflect the projectile straight into the eye-hole.
I think if a U.S. armor company got behind one of these maybe they could make a better armor mask.
I feel like with some more improvements it could be useful in real combat-assuming the operative is used to wearing it of course. A lot of these were almost point-blank range and it did so much better than I would have ever expected it to. It could definitely save a lot more lives if the design allowed coupling with helmets as well. I would personally much rather a broken nose, teeth and dislocated jaw than leaving a jigsaw puzzle for the doctors to figure out after a bullet wrecked havoc in my skull. That is if I even survive it in the first place.
This is how it works with body armor also. The kenitic impact can still mess you up but it leaves you mostly intact as long as the round doesn't punch through it. Of course if the round goes through the armor it could slow it down just enough to cause more damage then if you weren't armored but that is a discussion for a different day.
You would need a better material to make it out of
This is a taiwanese ballistic mask not an "bulletproof mask." It is meant to stop pieces of shrapnel from the environment from scratching your face. It is worn as antiriot gear by some police along with some military but they wear another part of the helmet on top of it where it includes thicker plates in front with thick goggles.
@@lotalotalotalotalotalota4047 then why did he say it is rated to stop a 44 round?
@@Robert-xn3dc Ones made properly are but he bought these from fucking Ebay, they're not the actual ballistic masks made for the military. The South Korean Special Forces use these and they're some of the best in the world so when they're made right they can.
Your C1 and C2 vertebrae are the top two vertebra in your neck closest to the Medulla. Your spinal cord is at its thickest diameter through these two vertebra compared to all other vertebra below them. While the spine can take a relatively large amount of axial load (a compression force on the spine, like being hit on the top of the head with some blunt force object), what those two bones can not do well is take a large amount of force in any other direction. The amount of energy that the 9mm or higher places on the maxillofacial area is significant enough to cause trauma to those two vertebra, which in most cases would incapacitate the wearer almost immediately. The resultant trauma to the spinal cord would actually worsen within a few minutes, including the persons inability to breathe on their own, complete paralysis, loss of continence, and lack of enough deliverable oxygen to the brain.
I'd rather die quickly than live a few minutes more with any of those conditions. Safety tip: don't get shot in the face.
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So what you're saying is: don't go in to combat without a HANS when wearing a faceplate.
do you have data to prove your point? Boxers get hit in the face with a lot more energy i belive.
@@aksel487 Than a Gunshot?
@@aksel487 professional boxer's will punch with more force than your average 9mm bullet but it's not instantaneous and most of the force is absorbed by the boxer's arm
@@duranbrown6454 yeah no. A 9 mm produces about 350 to 400 ft. lbs of energy, depending on the load. Do you think a boxer punches that hard seriously?
Two improvements i would make is to add some steel to the front of the mask ,1-2mm and bullet proof glass inserts in the eye holes would vastly improve the masks ability to deflect rounds
tbh I think tests including bullet resistant headwear and masks should be done with a mechanism that offers the same resistance as an average neck/muscles to see if something might be stopping the bullet, but also if the round will snap your neck and kill you that way.
I’ll start working on it
Wasnt there a dummy used in some kind of force test involving the 'legendary' one hit knock out punch by NatGeo or something a long time ago?
I swear it was an upper body torso that moved along with the force to help simulate the impact.
@@GarandThumb Lmao
@@GarandThumb May only help in a open casket service.
@@LeuvahkTrigger I know that Mythbusters did something like that once. I believe they were testing whether you could literally knock someones socks off.
Lib: “trust the science.”
Me: shows him Garand Thumb Science videos
Lib: “not THAT science”
Okay, european here, what science do you mean? Like, vaccines, evolution, the big bang? What fucking science, explain
@@lambsauce5312 Dr. Mike Oxlong here. I’m an educator at the University of Science™️. Mostly I’m referring to the science of Ligma. In Europe this field of study is referred to as Bofa.
im actually surprised at how well it did, it would be pretty useful against shrapnel it seems
right, I see some people being like its complete trash but dude if you get shot in the face your dead anyway lol
@@boxlunch1698 but they worked?
the only thing they ain't stopping is assault rifles; for which helmets also don't do shit unless you lucky, there is no "armour" against assault rifles that you effectively can move around in.
magnum sized bullets; which NO ONE in a fcking warzone has his sidearm gun as a magnum, that's rambo shit right there and you won't survive an explosive arrow to the face either so just don't fight rambo ;)
and lastly 12g shotgun at 5 meters to the face; seriously? you expected to survive that with ANY type of armour?...the impact shock alone is enough to break your neck, just dumb...
so effectively it protects you against all small firearms, as such guns, machine guns; p90 etc. and if it is a glancing blow it protect you against most, properly not assault rifles but nothing does; like helmets can take 1-2 shots if its glancing blows, direct shot goes through a titanium top grade helmet as well so yer...
you can also find a way to built it so you can wear it with a helmet...
your main problem is how it is constructed to guide to bullets into your eyes o.O which is just absolutely shitty design xD
also against melee weapons such as knifes, machetties etc. it will work extremely well as head protection ^^
Or ricochet.
Exactly. It's a better than nothing strategy. And it's MUCH better than nothing
@mod channel at least a good helmet protects something. this protects nothing. its next to useless. shrapnel? from what? youd be able to better react to shrapnel if you could just be able to fucking see. you cant see shit outta this mask and it protects against the most minor of projectiles.
Great design choice to deflect cheek shots into the eye holes so they'll definitely do some damage. 🤣🤣
You have to appreciate how the mask straps keep the head together when it would've otherwise exploded. Maybe that makes identification easier.
Thats exactly what i was thinking
Like seatbelts on planes?
Deformation is better than dying though.
@@MrSpiritmonger naw
@@Nehauon you mean a few broken teeth is not worth living?
I suggest doing a new one of these where you do the ballistic visors. The clear bulletproof glass that attaches to helmets.
Unlike the face masks, they're a distance away from your face. So the real question isn't backface deformation, but instead penetration and shrapnel.
I don’t think he would, because that is an American/European thing, and one of his common points about this face mask was that it was Chinese or from a third world country. I doubt he has questions about any American or European gear.
That wails be awesome
I also absolutely love how Dr. Garand Thumb makes very little effort to remove stains from his lab coat. Awesome!
Natural camouflage
i mean its sort of the point of a labcoat, take the stains and assorted dangerous shiz
A steel samurai mask with some ballistic padding underneath would be more effective id reckon
Both of the .22 rounds skipped through the eye hole. The slope towards your eye increases your chances of turning a lower cheek .22 hit into a fatal one through the eye socket. 🤣
Exactly, this is how Shattered mask in Tarkov should work. Rly high ricochet chance, but the bullet will likely kill you even without penetration. Better wear Altyn or LShZ-2DTM with a face shield.
P.S. Garand Thumb, how 'bout a ballistic test for face shields for various helmets?
Pls I need a k6 test
Look up Oxide. He's got a bunch of Russian face masks, helmets, and body armor tests
At the end of the day it's still a game and games have to have balanced items. If the shattered mask deflected bullets but dealt 100% of its damage in blunt damage, then its beyond worthless.
look up oxide, great and to the point russian body armor tests
Well not for the 24/7 chad who got level 9000 health and stress resistance. he will eat the bullit and tap you instead.
Not for nothing, but this really surprised me. Yeah I think those "ballistic" face masks are kinda dumb too, but even the .44 magnum did a lot less damage than I thought. These things might actually save your life in certain situations. Because a shot ANYWHERE in the skull/face with a .44 mag will straight up remove your head. This makes it possibly survivable. Although you'd probably lose all your teeth! And the deformation criteria for level 3A armor is like 4-5 inches. So this is not bad.
I bet the mask is most useful for grenade or artillery shrapnel, just like helmets
@@baraka629 would probably also be good for urban raids where you're entering through doorways hallways and into rooms where attackers will be shooting directly at the front of you.
This video is two years old so not sure the feedback is worth it. Great video, I'd find it very helpful when dealing with uncommon items like this to give reference points to something more standard.
For instance what the 44 could not penetrate and what it could, would it go through a standard US army helmet for instance? I'm not too versed in guns and this is pretty out of context for me. Written footnote or quick short sentence would be plenty enough.
Just a very small feedback, video is great! Never mind if that's not a good idea.
Everyone: Soldier's Face Armor
Me: Vigil's Cloaking ability....
Same bro
Right? These things don't stop any rounds when I'm out here hiding from drones
those masks are more to deflect than directly absorb the energy and it does a good job at that. This will save you from a poorly angled shot but that visibility tradeoff is something to think about
If I were ever to fight in a battle as a soldier, I'd rather wear a helmet. I doubt you can see anything while wearing that mask. Gasmasks have bigger goggles, and my vision was terrible while wearing one
Helmets obviously don't protect your face. Today's helmets have largely become crap, especially in the west, where they are quite small and used primarily to attach comms equipment and whatever gadgets you have, They don't cover the ears and barely shield the forehead.
@@FusionCoreHoarder This mask isnt worn by soilders but rather police when dealing with. lets say, a call for breaking and entering or a hostage situation where the assulter likely has firepower no stronger than a handgun. However Chinese police don't use it themselves so this is likely an export or for citizens that want a costume
It doesn't though. That's a sound strategy but the angles used are actually crap for that.
@@FusionCoreHoarder i don’t think these masks are to be used in a field combat more in close urban combat. I think they’d do a good job small spaces.
The great thing with this sort of product, from a business perspective, is that if it does not work, well the customer is no longer there to ask for a refund, is he?
😂😂🤣
Great video, I laughed like Vince McMahon throughout!
I think the manufacturer could learn a lot by starting with an *arc welder's mask* and then building on that design.
Oh wait, the military already has that and it works perfectly.
Can you link a picture ?
@@Breakaway-ic5gj atlyn helmet
@@Breakaway-ic5gj Russian Spetsnaz Helmet (Altyn)
@@Breakaway-ic5gj I posted some links but I see now that they all got deleted. YT doesn't let me link to anything.
@@taekwondotime It's fine
The thing about this mask is I think they got the rating on a technicality without taking into account the heavy deformation that occurs
They aren't actually certified by NIJ, they are claiming an equivalency to NIJ that they don't actually have. The NIJ standards do take backface deformation into account.
@@stevencali3539 NIJ allows 44mm of backface deformation. That's still lethal if it happens on your face, which is why NIJ certified helmets aren't really a thing
I can imagine this to be a very effective "flak jacket" for your face while riding in a Humvee/MRAP or even inside and APC. It was able to stop a .45 so it would definitely protect against shrapnel from explosive weapons. If a mechanized crew were to be hit by an RPG, it would greatly limit the casualties within the troop cabin.
I was thinking the same thing. Basically the same idea as helmets in WW1 and 2. More for shrapnel protection and not really meant for rounds.
@@drewgriffing7447 Definitely. I know some nations tested masks back in ww1 but most of them were too heavy and ineffective. I'd imagine this new tech would greatly benefit ww1-style warfare because it can let you show your entire head as a machinegunner/sniper and you're practically covered 90% from shrapnel which will be the most common weapon.
Even today, trenches are still seen in Ukraine border as of now and they can help reduce casualty from russian artillery.
tbh I'm not so sure one can breath properly with it inside a vehicle.
@@kyginger8005 As the popular saying goes for practically every army in the world: Just embrace the suck
I don't think anyone would want to wear that all day in the desert.
The hitmarker when you smacked the head at the end😹
I think that smooth surface makes much more sense as a shrapnel deflector more than anything. Even if you dont have any buldging or deformation which would mean you are absorbing not the armor, many blood vessels in your head would rupture and you would be brain dead in 5-10 seconds.
I would honestly rather be killed than shot in the face with one of these on.
Yeah... a shrapnel deflector straight into your EYE ...
should make them in slanted angles like tanks so it can deflect the bullet...into your chest.
@@jac1207 Just make it into a slide arround your head so the bullet slides back at your opponent.
@@jac1207 they need explosive armour.
Garand Thumb: I don’t see why anyone would use this
Vigil from Rainbow Six Siege: ….it’s fashionable
i mean look at the hunters from the division, they're cool as hell
then again those guys take several shots to the head wearing these things but oh well
@@lampaddict7885 Welp in real life you'd probably just die of the pain...
I'd like to see you guys test ceramic front-plates for helmets. They're rated for 556 m193 and 855, plus standard 7.62x39.
5:48 the first two shots going straight into the eye. They really should've made curve that curves away from the eye.