Really a cool old scooter... I had a Cushman , i believe, the Pacesetter, ca.1962 model ,it had a fiberglas cover over the engine and rear tire, gastank above rear tire. The motor looks the same. Keep after it it worth it .
The intake valve is stuck open. You obviously have no compression.Pull the head off and get the valves moving. It should be hard to turn over if you have compression.
I do believe you're correct. However the guy who owns it decided to rebuild the entire engine and probably the entire bike. He currently uses it as art on this covered patio. Thanks for watching and commenting I do appreciate it.
Judging by the way it turns over, the engine has very low compression. Buy or borrow a compression tester and check the compression. You must have at least 60 PSI. Good compression on that engine is 100-120PSI. I am familiar with Cushman engines. If you try to crank it slowly, an engine with good compression will stop turning or even bounce back a certain amount. The one you have just spins smoothly. BTW the gap of the spark plug is .035"
Unfortunately this one went back to its owner. He has decided to restore it completely someday . Currently he is using it as art on his deck by the pool. Maybe I will get my hand on it again. Thanks for watching.
@@ForsakenSteel The bike appears to be in good ride-able condition other than the engine. Suggest to your customer that he get in touch with the Cushman Club of America. It is a good source of information and parts location. Cushman scooters are popular because they are able to be licensed in all states for highway use.
Pull the carb, spray just a touch of the starting fluid in the intake or put just a little gas in the intake. Put a jam nut on the fly wheel. Take a cordless impact and socket and spin it that way. Also may want to check the compression using a gauge.
I'm going to check the compression when I get back to work on it. I'm hoping it doesn't have a stuck valve. I'll get that carb off and give the impact a shot. Thanks for the advice.
@@ForsakenSteel my pleasure. I’m really looking forward to seeing it run. If you owned it, I would recommend a full restoration as these are such beautiful machines. Spinning that flywheel will also help heat up the rings to help build compression. You can help lube the piston by putting 2 stroke gas in the intake or the spark plug hole so you don’t overheat and seize the piston. But don’t soak it. A little goes a long way.
Stuck valve. I bought a brand new 1959 for my paper rout. That sucker was about $100.00 more than a Vespa. I paid $535.00 out the door. That was really high dollar back then. When I was 15, I traded it for a 1937 Plymouth Business Coupe. After about 2 weeks, I wanted my scooter back.
I have always liked those Cushmans. My older brother has always had one or another. I bought a gentlemans Cushman collection a while back so that I could get a very nice 63 super eagle. All black with the box in back instead of the little fender. Got a few running but I've kinda lost interest.
If your still working on it and need help message me I just rebuild one from boxes and I have all the diagrams and torque specs and clearances but seems like your compression is low you might be able to get by with hand honing it and getting a set of rings think there 20 bucks on Dennis carpenters website and check your valve clearance should be in between .014 and .016 thousandths deff lap your valves too but deff sounds like a bad points system and low compression my engine reads 97psi with a compression tester I think 102 is the max I upgraded from the points system to a magneto coil with the voltage regulator on the back of a plate it’s all one unit also comes with a new fly wheel
It wasn't my scooter. The owner actually picked it up yesterday. I believe he is planning a full rebuild. Thanks for offering to help I really appreciate it.
Doesn't sound like it has any compression? Getting some exercise though. Hope you can find the issue and look forward to more on the old Cushman. Remember seeing the 3-wheel version of the Cushman in the provincial(state) campgrounds back in the 60s. Green with the brown leather seat. Be safe and stay well.
It seems like it has intermittent compression. That's hard to tell in the video though. I'm ordering parts and will be back on this little thing in the future. It's not mine but I kinda fell in love with it. 😂
You are exactly right. The owner has it on his back deck as art right now. The scooter is going to get a full rebuild at some point in the future. Thanks for watching
1958 Cushman Egeal was a great bike , Big year for American people , The first nuclear reactor went online, and the silicon integrated microchip was developed, and our first computer called The Colossus went online ♥️🇺🇲♥️ , one of the many reasons I love the United States of America ‼️
@@ForsakenSteel my Pleasure my friend ❤️‼️ that's the year that I was born, I posted about the Venturi gas system of the Cushman eagle, major pain in the ass, I work for Chicagoland cycles, back in the early 70s ask me anything you like about the machine , did you get that thing running ❓❓❓
Case and point , if you can depress the kick start by hand ✋ the rings are shot out , another problem was weak Crank bearings , that is why they clank so much 🤣🤣 I would give $1000000 to find my Cushman Egeal , I did a retrofit on the shifter knob drill the hole in an 8-ball from a pool table , it has chrome exhaust, dual Maltese cross mirrors, and painted the 1971 Pontiac color Sundance orange with global Chrome metal flake inlay , you could consider starting a Cushman club , like the owners of the 48 Willie jeepsters did ❓❓❓ you have a good following in a lot of viewing , what do you have to lose Dude ‼️
@@ForsakenSteel thank you 4 the response, Short story, 🙏 I had a customized 1958 Cushman eagle before I went into the Marines , 1976, I painted it a GM color ( Sundance orange) with chrome Global metal flake inlay , ( it was stolen from my garage when I was fighting overseas in Cambodia ) , Dude they were fantastic transportation in the City' And legal to ride with no tags or licence required, I had a 3 speed. , Dual chrome exhaust, Ape hangers handle bars , The funny thing is that they sound like sewing machines and can't get over 55 MPH on them , great Job on your post 👍👍👍👍👍 5;thumbs up , As Always David Staudohar USMC USN SS USCG ret ‼️ American Patriot 🇺🇸♥️
First off I would like to say thank you for your service. I also appreciate you sharing your story. I bet your bike looked great Sundance Orange. I believe that's an early 70's Pontiac color if my memory is correct.
Small Engine 101...If it has been sitting for a long period of time,first things first,#1) If no spark,check points by physically pulling them out to inspect,typically they will need replacing. Step #2 While waiting for the points and condensor to arrive pull the carb off and thoroughly go thru it and especially replace the needle 'n seat and soak it overnight in carb cleaner,reassemble and put back on. #3) If it has NO compression it is usually a stuck or non sealing valve,(typically the exhaust valve),simply "lap" the valves back into the seats and reassemble. #4) Check the ring end gap of each ring it should be between .010" to .015",(by way of you kicking it over by hand it has far too little compression to even pop off!!! Should have atleast 80PSI to run,[but poorly],should be 100PSI atleast to be viable),if it is greater than .015" order a new set of rings,then reassemble. After all that it should start first kick!!! I can tell you have not had much experience in small engine trouble shooting by the way this video went!!
I am most definitely not a small engine guy. I actually screen shot this information you shared so I can go back to it later. This Cushman belongs to a friend of mine and I just wanted to ride it in the yard so bad. Anyways he is planning on doing a full rebuild later on. Thanks for watching and all the information clearly I need it. 😂
If nothing else it's not from a lack of trying, by that time I'm towing it down the yard 😅🤣 I'm sure you'll work it out, looks cool, all the best to you and your loved ones
All I wanted to do was ride this thing in the yard. It belongs to my buddy and he is going to do a full rebuild eventually. Sorry yours was stolen, that really sucks. Thanks for watching!
try anew condenser to improve your spark they are cheap...compresson seems very low could be a number of things you need at least 60 lbs on a cushman. your fuel flooding is surely a stuck float needle valve. Those carbs.. are famous for that. Tapping on the float chamber with a screw driver handle will sometimes free it up.
Thanks for all the information. I haven't touched this thing since I made the video back in the fall. I'm not sure how long long it sat but it was a long time. Maybe I can get it running in the spring. Again thanks for the info and for watching.
i have a 58 and having the same problem. i have had it running but have to kick 30 + times to start, fresh knee replacement so she's sitting for awhile. be nice if would fire up 3rd kick or so tho
The Cushman eagle was developed for the soldiers in World War II, dependable transportation for the GI , they were dropped out of airplanes by parachute , that's why they're built so durable so they could take the landing
I am trying to get a similar Cushman running. I think there might be a spun key in the flywheel. Anyone have any idea if there is a way to make sure the flywheel is reinstalled properly?
I have had a 1961 Cushman eagle, that after driving it around stock for 13 years, after a knee operation, it became extremely hard to kick it….! I had no intentions of getting rid of it, but the 8 hp motor had trouble running up and down these hills here, and Alabama….! so I decided to re-power it….! I put a 670cc Motor in it with a CVTECH.61 torque converter…! Check it out on my Channel…! ( The Jeff Galey Channel ) “ 1961 Cushman Eagle 670 Predator motor “
Through a company one line. www.dennis-carpenter.com/cushman/books-amp-manuals/parts-books/?srsltid=AfmBOops_yXGbVRD08j3cXHrs7arAEjI3uWxaU0OBSRAapmtfk8XPpttarpenter
No it belongs to a friend of mine and he said I'll just rebuild it in the future. He has been using it as art on his covered patio. I wanted to ride this thing so bad! Thanks for watching.
I believe you are correct. It belongs to my buddy and currently is on his covered deck as art. He keeps saying he will rebuild the engine. However he's like me and has a lot of irons in the fire. Thanks for watching!
Unfortunately no. The gentleman it belongs to has it as art under his covered porch. Maybe someday he will be ready for a full rebuild. It definitely needs rings and probably a sticking valve. Thanks for watching and sorry we haven't finished it up. I was really ready to ride this thing.
@@ForsakenSteelgush I wish I had it , I got the engines for it and they all were boarded out 0.010 and new pistons, was planning on rebuilding them but the frames were stolen by family member so I still have 5 engines
@@ForsakenSteel one thing you have to do to start a Cushman Egeal, open the bleeder valve on the bottom of the gas bowl, because it has a Venturi gasoline system , this allows the air out of the gas line to go back into the tank
Really a cool old scooter... I had a Cushman , i believe, the Pacesetter, ca.1962 model ,it had a fiberglas cover over the engine and rear tire, gastank above rear tire. The motor looks the same. Keep after it it worth it .
The intake valve is stuck open. You obviously have no compression.Pull the head off and get the valves moving. It should be hard to turn over if you have compression.
I do believe you're correct. However the guy who owns it decided to rebuild the entire engine and probably the entire bike. He currently uses it as art on this covered patio. Thanks for watching and commenting I do appreciate it.
Agree that compression should be much more, I also think you have a stuck valve.
No part 2...?
I'll say it'll run. Throw a few more parts at it and give it some love. All that cranking looked like a workout!
It's definitely a workout. I'm going to keep after it until I can ride it.
I can remember hit the floor with my foot and saying dam it 😢
Judging by the way it turns over, the engine has very low compression. Buy or borrow a compression tester and check the compression. You must have at least 60 PSI. Good compression on that engine is 100-120PSI. I am familiar with Cushman engines. If you try to crank it slowly, an engine with good compression will stop turning or even bounce back a certain amount. The one you have just spins smoothly. BTW the gap of the spark plug is .035"
Unfortunately this one went back to its owner. He has decided to restore it completely someday . Currently he is using it as art on his deck by the pool. Maybe I will get my hand on it again. Thanks for watching.
@@ForsakenSteel The bike appears to be in good ride-able condition other than the engine. Suggest to your customer that he get in touch with the Cushman Club of America. It is a good source of information and parts location. Cushman scooters are popular because they are able to be licensed in all states for highway use.
That's a good idea. I was so looking forward to riding this scooter.
Pull the carb, spray just a touch of the starting fluid in the intake or put just a little gas in the intake. Put a jam nut on the fly wheel. Take a cordless impact and socket and spin it that way. Also may want to check the compression using a gauge.
I'm going to check the compression when I get back to work on it. I'm hoping it doesn't have a stuck valve. I'll get that carb off and give the impact a shot. Thanks for the advice.
@@ForsakenSteel my pleasure. I’m really looking forward to seeing it run. If you owned it, I would recommend a full restoration as these are such beautiful machines. Spinning that flywheel will also help heat up the rings to help build compression. You can help lube the piston by putting 2 stroke gas in the intake or the spark plug hole so you don’t overheat and seize the piston. But don’t soak it. A little goes a long way.
Stuck valve. I bought a brand new 1959 for my paper rout. That sucker was about $100.00 more than a Vespa. I paid $535.00 out the door. That was really high dollar back then. When I was 15, I traded it for a 1937 Plymouth Business Coupe. After about 2 weeks, I wanted my scooter back.
My first ride, loved it. School ride. 82 and miss them old rides.😅😅😅
I just wanted to ride this thing so bad! Thanks for watching!
I have always liked those Cushmans. My older brother has always had one or another. I bought a gentlemans Cushman collection a while back so that I could get a very nice 63 super eagle. All black with the box in back instead of the little fender. Got a few running but I've kinda lost interest.
I love the way they look. I wanted to ride this thing so bad but it definitely needs to rebuild on the engine.
Awesome video brother. That is one sweet bike. Thanks for sharing. Keep the content coming. Hope you have an incredible night. Much love and RESPECT
Isn't she a beauty. Thanks for watching Tim. 🤙
I had a 59 cushman husky, stripped down, no frills version, lot of fun and durable as hell. Put 12 hp engine on it, was too fast but so fun
This one isn't mine but I wanted to get it running so I could go for a ride so bad. Thanks for watching!
I had one back in 1974, it worked for a while, but I think I did change the rings to make it start better.
I really like this scooter. I wish it was mine. The owner has it sitting on his back porch by the pool waiting on a full rebuild.
If your still working on it and need help message me I just rebuild one from boxes and I have all the diagrams and torque specs and clearances but seems like your compression is low you might be able to get by with hand honing it and getting a set of rings think there 20 bucks on Dennis carpenters website and check your valve clearance should be in between .014 and .016 thousandths deff lap your valves too but deff sounds like a bad points system and low compression my engine reads 97psi with a compression tester I think 102 is the max I upgraded from the points system to a magneto coil with the voltage regulator on the back of a plate it’s all one unit also comes with a new fly wheel
It wasn't my scooter. The owner actually picked it up yesterday. I believe he is planning a full rebuild. Thanks for offering to help I really appreciate it.
Doesn't sound like it has any compression? Getting some exercise though. Hope you can find the issue and look forward to more on the old Cushman. Remember seeing the 3-wheel version of the Cushman in the provincial(state) campgrounds back in the 60s. Green with the brown leather seat. Be safe and stay well.
It seems like it has intermittent compression. That's hard to tell in the video though. I'm ordering parts and will be back on this little thing in the future. It's not mine but I kinda fell in love with it. 😂
Dennis Carpenter I believe has Cushman reproduction parts be kind of neat when it’s all done and running
I found his company on the internet today. I'm sure I will be putting in an order soon. I really want to ride this little scooter.
Thanks for sharing. I just got a 66 Cushman Super Silver Eagle that I inherited. It's froze up--gotta see what I can do to free it.
I wish this one was mine. It's a very cool little ride. Good luck with your project and thanks for watching.
Boy you’re lucky 😊
Not enough compression ; had to overhaul mine for same reason.
You are exactly right. The owner has it on his back deck as art right now. The scooter is going to get a full rebuild at some point in the future. Thanks for watching
1958 Cushman Egeal was a great bike , Big year for American people , The first nuclear reactor went online, and the silicon integrated microchip was developed, and our first computer called The Colossus went online ♥️🇺🇲♥️ , one of the many reasons I love the United States of America ‼️
There was definitely a lot of amazing things happening for the US in 1958. Thanks for watching.
@@ForsakenSteel my Pleasure my friend ❤️‼️ that's the year that I was born, I posted about the Venturi gas system of the Cushman eagle, major pain in the ass, I work for Chicagoland cycles, back in the early 70s ask me anything you like about the machine , did you get that thing running ❓❓❓
I didn't get it running. The owner has it at his place on his deck. His plan is to completely rebuild it in the future.
Case and point , if you can depress the kick start by hand ✋ the rings are shot out , another problem was weak Crank bearings , that is why they clank so much 🤣🤣 I would give $1000000 to find my Cushman Egeal , I did a retrofit on the shifter knob drill the hole in an 8-ball from a pool table , it has chrome exhaust, dual Maltese cross mirrors, and painted the 1971 Pontiac color Sundance orange with global Chrome metal flake inlay , you could consider starting a Cushman club , like the owners of the 48 Willie jeepsters did ❓❓❓ you have a good following in a lot of viewing , what do you have to lose Dude ‼️
🦅🇺🇸🦅 American steel, Just like the men and women that rode them back in 1958 ‼️♦️♦️♦️
Yes sir.
@@ForsakenSteel thank you 4 the response, Short story, 🙏 I had a customized 1958 Cushman eagle before I went into the Marines , 1976, I painted it a GM color ( Sundance orange) with chrome Global metal flake inlay , ( it was stolen from my garage when I was fighting overseas in Cambodia ) , Dude they were fantastic transportation in the City' And legal to ride with no tags or licence required, I had a 3 speed. , Dual chrome exhaust, Ape hangers handle bars , The funny thing is that they sound like sewing machines and can't get over 55 MPH on them , great Job on your post 👍👍👍👍👍 5;thumbs up , As Always David Staudohar USMC USN SS USCG ret ‼️ American Patriot 🇺🇸♥️
First off I would like to say thank you for your service. I also appreciate you sharing your story. I bet your bike looked great Sundance Orange. I believe that's an early 70's Pontiac color if my memory is correct.
Small Engine 101...If it has been sitting for a long period of time,first things first,#1) If no spark,check points by physically pulling them out to inspect,typically they will need replacing. Step #2 While waiting for the points and condensor to arrive pull the carb off and thoroughly go thru it and especially replace the needle 'n seat and soak it overnight in carb cleaner,reassemble and put back on. #3) If it has NO compression it is usually a stuck or non sealing valve,(typically the exhaust valve),simply "lap" the valves back into the seats and reassemble. #4) Check the ring end gap of each ring it should be between .010" to .015",(by way of you kicking it over by hand it has far too little compression to even pop off!!! Should have atleast 80PSI to run,[but poorly],should be 100PSI atleast to be viable),if it is greater than .015" order a new set of rings,then reassemble. After all that it should start first kick!!! I can tell you have not had much experience in small engine trouble shooting by the way this video went!!
I am most definitely not a small engine guy. I actually screen shot this information you shared so I can go back to it later. This Cushman belongs to a friend of mine and I just wanted to ride it in the yard so bad. Anyways he is planning on doing a full rebuild later on. Thanks for watching and all the information clearly I need it. 😂
If nothing else it's not from a lack of trying, by that time I'm towing it down the yard 😅🤣 I'm sure you'll work it out, looks cool, all the best to you and your loved ones
She definitely needs some parts and more love. I really want to ride this thing around the yard. Thanks for watching
You the man. Whatever it needs let’s get it.
Sounds good I'll make it happen.
Old ma😂n here remembers when you were hot stuff if you rode a cushman to high school
Sounds like a good time to me. Thanks for watching!
I rode one for many miles, brother in law stole it and sold it , dam I was so mad, but the thief is gone now 😮
Still got 5 engines setting in shop 😢
All I wanted to do was ride this thing in the yard. It belongs to my buddy and he is going to do a full rebuild eventually. Sorry yours was stolen, that really sucks. Thanks for watching!
try anew condenser to improve your spark they are cheap...compresson seems very low could be a number of things you need at least 60 lbs on a cushman. your fuel flooding is surely a stuck float needle valve. Those carbs.. are famous for that. Tapping on the float chamber with a screw driver handle will sometimes free it up.
Thanks for all the information. I haven't touched this thing since I made the video back in the fall. I'm not sure how long long it sat but it was a long time. Maybe I can get it running in the spring. Again thanks for the info and for watching.
i have a 58 and having the same problem. i have had it running but have to kick 30 + times to start, fresh knee replacement so she's sitting for awhile. be nice if would fire up 3rd kick or so tho
This one doesn't belong to me but I believe it's going to get a full rebuild in the future.
Watch the sparks on that beautiful pick up
That is one nice truck
The Cushman eagle was developed for the soldiers in World War II, dependable transportation for the GI , they were dropped out of airplanes by parachute , that's why they're built so durable so they could take the landing
Set the coil to the flywheel with a bussiness card.😊
Great idea.
Looks like your missing your spring in the throttle handle
It is.
Awesome motorcycle
Thanks, I wish I owned her. At least I get to work on it and bring it back to life.
7................ months................later............... Looks like it got neglected and abandoned
It went back to its owner. I think he is planning on fully restoring it in the future. He currently has it on his back porch by the pool as art.
LOL, WD40 was a new product when this bike was built!
Both hold a special spot in my heart. Thanks for watching.
I am trying to get a similar Cushman running. I think there might be a spun key in the flywheel. Anyone have any idea if there is a way to make sure the flywheel is reinstalled properly?
Mercy sakes. I hope you don't work everything like this
Shit I'm just out here raw dogging life.
Mercy sakes...show us all how its done or just shut the fk up
If it's leaking out the carb the needle is stuck open,you need to clean the carb
Very well could be.
We need more
I agree, but it's not mine and the owner wasn't ready to rebuild it yet. I'm fairly certain the rings are stuck in the engine.
I have had a 1961 Cushman eagle, that after driving it around stock for 13 years, after a knee operation, it became extremely hard to kick it….! I had no intentions of getting rid of it, but the 8 hp motor had trouble running up and down these hills here, and Alabama….! so I decided to re-power it….!
I put a 670cc Motor in it with a CVTECH.61 torque converter…!
Check it out on my Channel…! ( The Jeff Galey Channel )
“ 1961 Cushman Eagle 670 Predator motor “
I'll check it out. This wasn't mine and it has already been picked up. I would have loved to have owned it and rebuilt it. Thanks for watching.
Best of sears
Back when Sears was Amazon. Thanks for watching!
Stuck valve
I bet you're right. It had crossed my mind but not until I had finished the video.
I'll give you $50 for it
That's a good strong offer. 😂 Thanks for watching!
I would thriple it and drive for 3 days to get it 😊
The compression is low,check it,should not turn over that easy,also you must have good fire or it will never run
For the Cushman, where did you get parts?
Through a company one line. www.dennis-carpenter.com/cushman/books-amp-manuals/parts-books/?srsltid=AfmBOops_yXGbVRD08j3cXHrs7arAEjI3uWxaU0OBSRAapmtfk8XPpttarpenter
Where are you getting the parts for the Cushman? Is there a company who stocks Cushman?
Try Googling Dennis Carpenter. He sells almost everything for Cushman scooters. Good luck with your project and thanks for watching!
A kick start with no snap back? Why?
I have no idea, I sent it back to its owner. He is going to do a full rebuild.
I want it lol
Me too. It belongs to a friend of mine and he basically uses it for art.
I'm way late to this video, whatever happened with that Scooter? My Mother had them in the 40's and 50's.
It went back home to its owner. He is going to rebuild the engine. I really wanted to ride this thing bad. Thanks for watching
If the compression isn't at least 125 it will never start
It definitely has low compression. It belongs to my buddy and he is going to do a full rebuild eventually.
Did you ever get it running?
No it belongs to a friend of mine and he said I'll just rebuild it in the future. He has been using it as art on his covered patio. I wanted to ride this thing so bad! Thanks for watching.
Where did you order parts from?
Dennis Carpenter he has almost anything you can imagine. I put a link in one of your other comments. Thanks for watching!
Electric drill on the flywheel
That's a great idea! I wish I had thought of that when I had this thing. Thanks for watching and commenting
No compression, looks like
I believe you are correct. It belongs to my buddy and currently is on his covered deck as art. He keeps saying he will rebuild the engine. However he's like me and has a lot of irons in the fire. Thanks for watching!
did it ever run?
Unfortunately no. The gentleman it belongs to has it as art under his covered porch. Maybe someday he will be ready for a full rebuild. It definitely needs rings and probably a sticking valve. Thanks for watching and sorry we haven't finished it up. I was really ready to ride this thing.
@@ForsakenSteelgush I wish I had it , I got the engines for it and they all were boarded out 0.010 and new pistons, was planning on rebuilding them but the frames were stolen by family member so I still have 5 engines
want to sell as is?
It's not mine, it belongs to my buddy and he's attached to it.
Zero compression
Exactly 💯
I think it will run if you pull start it… get your truck some one driving it and put it in gear when it’s going and should spin over a lot quicker
It may come to that.
@@ForsakenSteel it’ll work or it won’t
Updates?
@@ForsakenSteel one thing you have to do to start a Cushman Egeal, open the bleeder valve on the bottom of the gas bowl, because it has a Venturi gasoline system , this allows the air out of the gas line to go back into the tank