First and foremost, I enjoy these videos so much…. I’ve learned so much from this guy! Things that drive me crazy… 1. Using a claw hammer for mechanical work. 2. Using crescent wrenches and channel-lock (slip joint) pliers backwards, every single time. 3. Rev to the moon upon startup, doesn’t matter if it ran one week ago or fifty years ago. Cheers Joe!
I try to tell myself he's trolling us with the throttle revving. And that he ACtually has the machine warmed up. I don't think I could watch otherwise. I still can't help but wonder lol.
He's a mechanical engineer, not a mechanic. Smart enough to fix anything, just don't quite use the right tools all the time. Sometimes builds with a lot of F.O.D. trapped inside 😂. Just like every engineer I've ever worked with. Some have been smart enough to build a bomb, just not smart enough to run after the lite it.
Just did a quick Google for spare parts availability. I live in Berlin, Germany and found parts listed at 'Doktor Moto' specifically for this model. IÄm sure there will be other suppliers if you need specific parts. It might be easier for me to research if you have problems.
Well if it is indeed 12 volts you can use any 12-volt car coil ,which if you had it on the charger and the ignition was on you probably fried the coil . See if this is a very rare bike that's the problem when people have more money than brains they really don't care how rare something is and how careful they have to be with it. Not saying that you have more money than brains,myself I think it's more about the video!!!
In 1967 I purchased in Auckland New Zealand NZETA 175cc very similar to a Czeta (differenences a large coneshaped nose which was a Petrol tank The electrics were charged by the dual action Generator/engine starter. Mine the battery got charged. The starter components not functioning but it had a kick start. I rode the thing on 3speeds for months till I discovered 4th gear didnt like the thing at all, took my future wife to a work colleagues birthday party we travelled at night in the rain on theAuckland southern motorway !!! I traded it on a very sad looking 1953 Austin A40 Somerset. That cost me $75 The A40 had valve radio. A. Whole 50mph on the same motorway singing along with Tommy James and the Shondells Crimson and clover I'm only 74 lol listening to it now good luck.
Hey, i’m from slovakia(small coutry next to the czech republic) this motorbike is called because of mountains here and its manufactured here too. The factory is called Považské strojárne. I own one of these tatrans too…
Is that where Jawa’s originally came from, my Dad got my brothers and I a 1960’s Jawa 350 in the late 70’s, he said it was to learn to work on bikes. We put knobby tyres on, cut the mudguards back and different handlebars, when it did start and run it flew ( to us anyway ) but it was cursed or Dad hated us or both. We did learn about bikes, patience, frustration, and new swear words, we all moved on to different bikes and we are all still into them fifty odd years later, when we get together for a beer we always bring up the Jawa and laugh. Cheers from Australia.
@@raeanker3078 Hey, Country was originaly Czechoslovakia from 1918-1989 when was revolution. In czechoslovakie were 3 manufactures. First was here in Považské strojarne(slovakia), second was in strakonice(czech republic) where were čezetas made and third was in Česke budejovice(czech republic) where were jawas made
nice find joe! i'm from czech republic, its a tatran manet.Made from 1958 to 1964, they made 95207 pieces. in my coutry they cost almost nothing without papers but one in new mint condition with title is for sale for 3850$
That is a motherlode in the scooter fraternity in the Europe alongside the Vespa's, Lambrettas, Douglas' etc . You've got an absolute corker there, Joe. Please, please fully restore it.
I say differently . Don't restore it . Get it running reliably , give it a wash ( a real wash , not a spray it down with the pressure washer wash ) ,wax it , and keep it like it is . That thing is in amazing condition for it's age . It looks to be almost all there , and the paint and everything is still pretty good .
It's surprising that so many people, even mechanics don't realize that pliers, vise-grips, and especially crescent wrenches are directional. They are made to be used in one direction only. Especially when cracking loose a nut or bolt. When you pull against the moveable jaw of the tool, you are just encouraging the tool to open up and slip, and round the corners off the fastener.
I have noticed many people don't know the proper usage of the tools they use every day.I'm glad that I'm not the only one that has been paying attention.These tools need to be used like a pipe wrench that are made to grab one way.
True, There are so many mechanics(being years in the trade) when trying to loosen a bolt they still turn it the wrong way on first try. I just don't get it, it's against the clock is that so hard to understand?
Adjustable end wrench. Crescent is a tool company. Every wrench that they make whether it be an adjustable end wrench or a a 9/16” box end wrench is a Crescent wrench. As is Allen. Allen is the name of a tool company also that manufactured hex key wrenches. You guys taking shots at someone else and you don’t even know the correct names for the tools you’re talking about.
Dear sir, I’m 60 years old so I grew up in the 1970’s riding dirt bikes. I so much enjoy watching you tackle so many varied bikes. You really do a great job on your videos. Thank you for posting your work. It’s fascinating!
If you do any hunting or shooting save a few spent brass cartridges of different sizes, they work great as punches if you’re making homemade gaskets for stuff like that when gaskets aren’t readily available. A roll of gasket material is dirt cheap and they’re easy to make 👍
It's 2 6v batteries in series that makes 12v. Not parallel. Also, checking fuses that way isn't good. You can get bad reading because it can read though the circuit. You should pull them out to check them.
I've restored a lot of old things. When I see wires like yours has, it's best to replace them with new ones. Clip a terminal off and look for copper color, if it's green or dark brown it's all trash. Another way to test old wire is on the ends try to solder it, no stick throw away. Too much resistance in old wiring will open Murphy's Law.
28:44 Lots of dirt on outside of carb for 20 miles or kilometers. Spark plug looked the same. It’s low mileage for sure but I’m thinking the odometer has issues
So your Cushman was a few years old when you bought it. My 1958 Cushman was new when I brought it, also at age 14, and I put thousands of miles on it riding the streets of Dallas, somehow survived despite the fact that the old Cushmans were probably the most dangerous machines ever licensed for the road. Currently at age 81 I ride the same streets on a much safer Yammie XSR 700.
That is a 6V system only!...you need (2) 6v batteries connected in parallel, that still makes 6 volts but doubles the amps for the electric start...thats what cooked the coil ...putting 12 volts into a 6 volt system never ends well usually the coil is the first thing to burn up....that looks like a old automotive 6 volt coil...check your local auto parts stores..they should be able to get one.
If you have two six vot batteries, "in parallel" The voltage stays the same, the amps double. Series = two six volt batteries , voltage doubles, "amps stay the same" It better to buy a new six volt battery.....having two in parallel, can be a problem with charging. If one start a charging problem , the other one will suffer.......it's like feeding two.
Great looking old scooter . That system :- Dynastart , Bing style carb , foot change . two stroke , was very typical European scooter . Zundapp , Nsu , Puch . Looking forward to part two , my Zundapp did exactly the same thing .
Wow, I congratulate you for the pure emotion you have... the same thing would have happened to me... I was born in October 1965. Congratulations! Ferni Deck by Garmin Deck from the shores of Mar del Plata in Argentina
This Tatran 125 model of scooter was made by Jawa motorcycles of Czechoslovakia, they were popular although now very rare, Jawa parts are still available certainly in Europe
Joe, the little wire wound resistor you found to the left of the fuses would make me think that it's a ballast resistor for the ignition coil. It's purpose would be to drop the voltage that the coil is fed when the engine is running. It would likely be a 6volt coil on the machine. When the starter is engaged, it causes the voltage to sag down to around 8 volts, and this is the same voltage the coil would see when starting. The resistor is switched out when starting, but in once the engine is running if you see what I mean. Also the coil gets energized when the points are closed. If the ignition is left on at this position of the engine for any length of time, the coil can burn out. Feel the heat in the coil of a points ignition car and see for yourself.
Norton Commando's are set up that way. 2 6V coils in parallel which are fed through a ballast resistor from a 12V source. Ballast resistors are wound with a special nichrome wire which initially offers only a small resistance, then as current flow heats them up the resistance rises, dropping the output voltage. This happen over a few seconds time, which allows high voltage for better spark at starting and lower voltage for longer life of the coils while running.
Thing looks like a voltage regulator to me. Very old school these days with alternators. When generators were the "thing?" That what kept the battery (in your case batteries...lol) charged up. 1 thing ya HAD to do with those regulators was touch one wire to another (I forget what the procedure was called) but? If ya didn't? It would either ruin the regulator, or not charge the battery.
greetings from Czech republic,🇨🇿 yeah its one of the rarest bikes we made, and also no one knows about this brand, so you got pretty lucky to have this piece of art
I am 58 and you are my idol. I am hoping to retire in a few years and also build a garage/shop to work on motorcycles. I don’t think I could obtain the amazing finds you do. This one is insane. Vietnam has a lot of scooter mechanics and might be able to help you if you need to upgrade or find parts.
hey buddy. a small tip you may already know. I’ve been watching a bunch of your videos and noticed you have some trouble with stripped out screws. If you buy a bicycle inner tube and cut it into small squares, you can put the square on the top of a screw and than unsrew it and it usually helps with grip. Good vids!
Awesome find!!! It definitely has erratic and weak spark. That’s the biggest problem. It also seems to have some sort of vacuum leak hence the very labored throttle response and engine revs after closing throttle. It should be more responsive with a faster return to idle when letting go of throttle. Hopefully it’s not the crank seals! I think this scooter needs a complete detailed cleaning and leave it AS IS!!!
(For 2vintage only!!!) I have a 2008 Lambretta it's in rough condition but it's a running motor and I've had more then enough fun out of it if you even want it for free I'm willing to do so I enjoy watching your videos and I would love to see it in better condition again
@yeahright302 im just teasing him to be honest. He's a hell of alot better mechanic than I am that's for sure. But i definitely do things different . To each their own . He's still one of my favorite channels to fallow.
@@kvandyke252 sad part is, he does this a lot in his vids and its sad.(mechanic)as you said, would never do this when something is sitting that long.hes just a back yard mechanic at best making vids as that's how makes his living!!he sad to people like this on you tube,because my self am a atv mechanic for the past 28 years.
@@yeahright302 That's why i stopped watching every video. He doesn't hear slipping clutch/doesn't hear knocking valves(as loud as pebbles in a soda can) revving cold old engines to the moon etc. He simply doesn't up his game after doing so many bikes. Then to me you are just stupid.
Hey mate, Kev from Australia here. I was thinking you must be six foot plus the way you step down from the back of your truck lol no way i could do that without loosing the bike or myself in a mess, and I,m five eight. Loving your show, like many others it seems, and well done on that. In Australia there is nowhere near as many second hand bikes and quads as you have there with your population. So its difficult to find anything worth the money they want. 15 millioin adults in Australia lol and a population of 26 nmillion. And its a hard counrty on machinery. Congratulations on your new property and I hope you have a pit and a ramp in your new place. cheers and regards from Kev.
50:00 any 12 volt automotive coil will work……what puzzles me is the positive ground. English bikes are like this. I think if you just got a VW coil it would work. You may have to turn the leads around though, so that the positive side is going to the points, and the negative is powering the coil. On a modern negative ground, the negative goes to the points. Investigate those points and condenser. I’ll bet there from a VW. Also, the plug may be fouled….it could spark outside, but under compression not fire. Very cool find indeed. Thanks for sharing.
I had a 150cc Austrian Puch 2-stroke scooter in New Zealand in 1967-1971. It was similar to this Tatran in concept, but the gearchange was via a rotating left handgrip and it had only a kickstart. I think it was a bit lighter than this more luxurious Tatran. A housemate had a 350 cc NZeta, a New Zealand assembled version of the Czechoslovak/Polish CZeta/Jawa 2-cylinder 2-stroke motorbike with automatic clutch. I rode it quite often. (Note: It was the Czechoslovak Socialist Republic in the 1960's, not Czech Republic). After some painful long-distance riding at 35 mph on the Puch, I bought in 1968 a 1956 500cc Triumph Tiger 100 with touring saddlebags and carrier, and the long distances became very pleasant at 70 mph 🙂
I used to have a 1972 restored vespa px 125, and that bike reminds me of the very rare Italian lambrettas 😊 seen a guy on TH-cam restoring one of those a couple of months ago
Just a idea for ya Joe..pick up a metal cookie sheet (9x11) for your next carb rebuild...it will catch everything, plus your work bench won't be soaking up the liquid carb cleaner :>)
the batteries have to be in series to make 12 volts... If you run them parallel it will still be 6V... Fantastic find Joe! I hope you do another video on this... I have a coil from a Peugeot Moped, if you think that will work, I'll send it to ya...Let me know...
I find adding a dab of solder to the iron helps heat transfer to the wire happen quicker and saves from too much heat going up the wire. Each to their own, I guess.
Heat the wire, copper tubing etc on the opposite side from where you will be applying the silver solder so that the solder will flow towards the heat source and give full coverage. That’s the general concept of soldering. Apply the heat, wait and then apply the solder and it will pull inwards toward the hottest point.
Looks like a lot more than 20 miles. My 74' yamaha DT250 is six volt. And the solenoid looks more like a voltage regulator/relay. Cool funky looking bike, great find !
My first thought would be bad plug wire. Next thought, im not sure about this coil, but on many old 24v systems you needed a battery disconnect switch. The constant power to the coil without the engine running would burn the coils out. That would explain why they had a clamp on the terminal. Easy connect/disconnect without tools.
You did A FANTASTIC JOB ,for my experience in cars the old ones at changing coil you change condenser too ,because the contact point adjusting is only one cylinder, that is next to impossible you got to use your hearing how it sound. good luck.
There were three cables next to the battery's I think that bike is dule voltage 12v for the lights and 6v for the ignition/coil hence cooking the coil when on a 12 charge
I’m wondering if that coil is really a 6 volt coil? Or maybe powering the coil over night on 12 volts cooked it. Is that system using 12 volt starter and 6 volt ignition? Im sure you’ll figure it out. I’ll be looking for next video on this one.
Your lovely scooter has a Dyno start a system used back in the day - it's a direct drive brushed motor-generator that rocks the engine back and forth until it gets enough momentum to get over-compression - it was used on many Villiers engines fitted to micro cars
Having viewership around the world can have advantages. Very cool scooter. I wonder if Mike from American Pickers could help? Hes and old scooter enthusiasts.
That thing that the 2 yellow wires went to, that is mounted on the chassis? I don't think that was a ground. I think it was a resistor. Bypassing it could cause the coil to get cooked. Very good find though. Will be fun to get it running properly.
Check for dried out crankshaft seals. Coil ? A Bosch 6 volt coil should work. Compression will trick you. It will start at a certain PSI, then drop just a couple of PSI and then not run. Check for bad crankshaft seals by spraying a bit of ether on , or near the seals. If the idle RPM goes up, then they are leaking. Condensers and coil need to go. P.S. - Run the oil mix on the rich side.
Very interesting to watch you chase down problems and get it going...its a pit the coil fried but hopefully you can get a replacement from the lead below. Best of luck with it, look forward to seeing it going again!
I don't believe it has only 20miles...but it was a great find! hope you get that coil and new fuses also. there are 2 that are still ceramic. new wiring is always good in old systems just to start from scratch instead of using old system and not knowing if everything is ok.
My thoughts also. There's a lot of dirt around the engine for 20 miles. If it had a couple of hundred , there would be so much dirt that you would not be able to see inside the box.
hi i seen the best way to solder wires on another site, i all ways did it like your doing but this other guy had his soldering iron under the wire and solder on top of the wire, so as the wire heated the solder melted right through i haven tried it but it did look like a stronger solder , like your shows thanks, O what happened with the BSA did i miss the finish of it
Automotive, aircraft marine etc use crimps, not solder joints. Solder cracks easily under vibration, don't you ever wonder why there's no soldered joints as standard? And it's soLder, not sodder!
Cool. I love old 2 strokes. Many years ago, I had a 1960 Mitsubishi Silver Pigeon C-200 125 2 stroke. It was made in Japan, and originally sold by Montgomery Wards. They were made for many years, in both 2 stroke and 4 stroke variations and different displacements, but they all had a CVT transmission as far as I know. Mine did. That CVT was its weak point. Mine never did work properly.
This brings back memories of my old 49cc Simson Schwalb which I owned back in the 1980s. Its design was a very similar, but less slick version of your Tatran. However. the engine note is exactly the same. In the UK the Schwalb was classed as a moped and should have been limited to 30 mph. In reality it did over forty. I expect your 125 will do more than 50mph if pushed.
Yeah you didn't even have to rev the heck out of it. this time it did it all by itself. This bike is designed for you. Still didn't stop you from trying to rev it anyway
Wow..now that's a find..I like the looks of it too and being all original the Patina is awesome.. if you decided to try and polish it up without making the paint use Soft scrub liquid cleaner but make sure it's name brand. I've been using it on cars and trucks even motorcycles for years ..Great find
I have been a small gas motor guy for years since I was 15 now 41 and what u show u have gone way above what alot do would like to have a chat some time
Amazing how you tear into things and get them running and even the electrical components functioning again with what i believe is self taught knowledge!!! Pretty Cool how far you have come with yur passion for mechanics!
A 1965 two stroke rarity I think a 40 to 1 oil mix is to little oil though for this age of bike think I would be using 25 to 1 or 32 to 1 Reminds me of riding about on my Lambretta GP 150 in the 1970's same engine noise Keep the Patina though they only have original paint once If its 12 volt just buy any 12 volt coil
I lived in Dutton Montana. I drove One to choteau I was just sharing this with my kids. I hadn't seen one of those since 1969. It was a beast you would have to crank forever to get it started. You better get to where you're going because if you shut it off, you have to wait for it to get stone cold before you can start it again that's the way it was for me, a real heavy scooter
I love the scooter I used to own a 56 lambretta with a sidecar it was pretty rough and needed a new Magneto cables and other unobtainable parts at the time this is many years ago and a guy begged me for it I sold it to him he restored it he said it cost a fortune for the parts I know that but I like old scooters they're cool I used to have a Cushman I drove it everywhere and Allstate it was a fun scooter the one you found that's really cool you never see those have a great day thanks for the inspiration I'm too old to ride motorcycles or ATVs or whatever anymore I guess my dream bike is a Honda Rune they're incredible check it out have a great day I'll keep watching
Thanks for a great video. I note that others have said two batteries in parallel give the same voltage (6v) but can supply more current. Two batteries in series give 12v. My guess is that the coil needed a resistor in series with it, so without that it was drawing too much current and that cooked it.
That's a neat little scooter. From the era I'd guess it was a 6v system. You could make it work either 12v or 6v but the coil, charging system, starter and bulbs all need to be the same gender.
First and foremost, I enjoy these videos so much…. I’ve learned so much from this guy! Things that drive me crazy… 1. Using a claw hammer for mechanical work. 2. Using crescent wrenches and channel-lock (slip joint) pliers backwards, every single time. 3. Rev to the moon upon startup, doesn’t matter if it ran one week ago or fifty years ago. Cheers Joe!
And running the starters until for ever.
The claw hammer gets me every time. When will we see a carpenter use a ball peen hammer while building a house?😂
Thought I was the only one that felt that way. I very seldom even use a crescent wrench.
I try to tell myself he's trolling us with the throttle revving. And that he ACtually has the machine warmed up. I don't think I could watch otherwise. I still can't help but wonder lol.
He's a mechanical engineer, not a mechanic.
Smart enough to fix anything, just don't quite use the right tools all the time. Sometimes builds with a lot of F.O.D.
trapped inside 😂.
Just like every engineer I've ever worked with.
Some have been smart enough to build a bomb, just not smart enough to run after the lite it.
Just did a quick Google for spare parts availability. I live in Berlin, Germany and found parts listed at 'Doktor Moto' specifically for this model. IÄm sure there will be other suppliers if you need specific parts. It might be easier for me to research if you have problems.
thats very generous
Try temporarily using an older car coil on it.
@@christophermarshall5765 like from a beetle etc. will work just fine, did so on my MZ from the GDR
Well if it is indeed 12 volts you can use any 12-volt car coil ,which if you had it on the charger and the ignition was on you probably fried the coil . See if this is a very rare bike that's the problem when people have more money than brains they really don't care how rare something is and how careful they have to be with it. Not saying that you have more money than brains,myself I think it's more about the video!!!
In 1967
I purchased in Auckland New Zealand NZETA 175cc very similar to a Czeta (differenences a large coneshaped nose which was a
Petrol tank
The electrics were charged by the dual action
Generator/engine starter. Mine the battery got charged. The starter components not functioning but it had a kick start. I rode the thing on
3speeds for months till I discovered 4th gear didnt like the thing at all, took my future wife to a work colleagues birthday party we travelled at night in the rain on theAuckland southern motorway !!!
I traded it on a very sad looking 1953 Austin A40 Somerset. That cost me $75
The A40 had valve radio.
A. Whole 50mph on the same motorway singing along with
Tommy James and the Shondells
Crimson and clover I'm only
74 lol listening to it now good luck.
Hey, i’m from slovakia(small coutry next to the czech republic) this motorbike is called because of mountains here and its manufactured here too. The factory is called Považské strojárne. I own one of these tatrans too…
Is that where Jawa’s originally came from, my Dad got my brothers and I a 1960’s Jawa 350 in the late 70’s, he said it was to learn to work on bikes. We put knobby tyres on, cut the mudguards back and different handlebars, when it did start and run it flew ( to us anyway ) but it was cursed or Dad hated us or both. We did learn about bikes, patience, frustration, and new swear words, we all moved on to different bikes and we are all still into them fifty odd years later, when we get together for a beer we always bring up the Jawa and laugh. Cheers from Australia.
@@raeanker3078 Hey, Country was originaly Czechoslovakia from 1918-1989 when was revolution. In czechoslovakie were 3 manufactures. First was here in Považské strojarne(slovakia), second was in strakonice(czech republic) where were čezetas made and third was in Česke budejovice(czech republic) where were jawas made
As a bonus, it's only 20 kilometers, even less miles on your Tatram. Cool find!
nice find joe! i'm from czech republic, its a tatran manet.Made from 1958 to 1964, they made 95207 pieces. in my coutry they cost almost nothing without papers but one in new mint condition with title is for sale for 3850$
I had a RD 350 that burnt the coils. My mom owned a VW repair shop, & one of her mechanics put 2 bosch coils on it & it ran like a champ
Could you tell me which coils please.
That is a motherlode in the scooter fraternity in the Europe alongside the Vespa's, Lambrettas, Douglas' etc .
You've got an absolute corker there, Joe. Please, please fully restore it.
He doesn't restore anything. Just get's them running..
@Catfish2255 Always a first time for anything!
@@nicholaskemp2246 this would be lovely for him to restore i for one would love to see this 59 year old bike in good running order
😂😂Joe restore something too cheap
I say differently . Don't restore it . Get it running reliably , give it a wash ( a real wash , not a spray it down with the pressure washer wash ) ,wax it , and keep it like it is . That thing is in amazing condition for it's age . It looks to be almost all there , and the paint and everything is still pretty good .
This is what is so nice about old motorcycles you can actually repair them..👍
It's surprising that so many people, even mechanics don't realize that pliers, vise-grips, and especially crescent wrenches are directional. They are made to be used in one direction only. Especially when cracking loose a nut or bolt. When you pull against the moveable jaw of the tool, you are just encouraging the tool to open up and slip, and round the corners off the fastener.
I have noticed many people don't know the proper usage of the tools they use every day.I'm glad that I'm not the only one that has been paying attention.These tools need to be used like a pipe wrench that are made to grab one way.
True, There are so many mechanics(being years in the trade) when trying to loosen a bolt they still turn it the wrong way on first try. I just don't get it, it's against the clock is that so hard to understand?
Almost any bolt or nut you come across with rounded corners some dude been using a crescent wrench. They should ban crescent wrenches :)
Way way over joes head
Adjustable end wrench. Crescent is a tool company. Every wrench that they make whether it be an adjustable end wrench or a a 9/16” box end wrench is a Crescent wrench. As is Allen. Allen is the name of a tool company also that manufactured hex key wrenches. You guys taking shots at someone else and you don’t even know the correct names for the tools you’re talking about.
Dear sir,
I’m 60 years old so I grew up in the 1970’s riding dirt bikes. I so much enjoy watching you tackle so many varied bikes. You really do a great job on your videos. Thank you for posting your work. It’s fascinating!
If you do any hunting or shooting save a few spent brass cartridges of different sizes, they work great as punches if you’re making homemade gaskets for stuff like that when gaskets aren’t readily available. A roll of gasket material is dirt cheap and they’re easy to make 👍
It's 2 6v batteries in series that makes 12v. Not parallel. Also, checking fuses that way isn't good. You can get bad reading because it can read though the circuit. You should pull them out to check them.
💯
Absolutely.
Yes!
I've restored a lot of old things. When I see wires like yours has, it's best to replace them with new ones. Clip a terminal off and look for copper color, if it's green or dark brown it's all trash. Another way to test old wire is on the ends try to solder it, no stick throw away. Too much resistance in old wiring will open Murphy's Law.
Just when I think I won’t see Joe get anything cooler than he’s already worked on, he proves me wrong. Another great find!
28:44 Lots of dirt on outside of carb for 20 miles or kilometers. Spark plug looked the same. It’s low mileage for sure but I’m thinking the odometer has issues
Exactly. No way is only twenty miles.
Definitely
That scooter is super cool definitely a candidate for a full restoration
Very cool, I still ride my 1949 Cushman Highlander scooter I bought when I was 14, I'm 78 now.
So your Cushman was a few years old when you bought it. My 1958 Cushman was new when I brought it, also at age 14, and I put thousands of miles on it riding the streets of Dallas, somehow survived despite the fact that the old Cushmans were probably the most dangerous machines ever licensed for the road. Currently at age 81 I ride the same streets on a much safer Yammie XSR 700.
Love it well done sir
I was waiting forvthis thing to go flying off kickstand into your wall. Pretty scary first start 😮
During his maiden voyage, the center stand was down, and I was waiting for it to catapult him into the bushes.
I thought it was about to
Produce wings and fly !!
Hey.... the engine was turning over backwards at first!!! Magical!!!
How do you know it was?
flywheel key probably sheered which messed up the timing.
It is a dyno start -direct drive starting system - they rock back an to progressively till they gain enough momentum to get over compression
That is a 6V system only!...you need (2) 6v batteries connected in parallel, that still makes 6 volts but doubles the amps for the electric start...thats what cooked the coil ...putting 12 volts into a 6 volt system never ends well usually the coil is the first thing to burn up....that looks like a old automotive 6 volt coil...check your local auto parts stores..they should be able to get one.
The amperage is not doubled. It stays the same but has plenty of it!
You´re wrong. This scooter has a 12V System with two 6V batteries in series on positive ground.
@@GettingNervous The solenoid had 12v marked on it.
If you have two six vot batteries, "in parallel"
The voltage stays the same, the amps double.
Series = two six volt batteries , voltage doubles, "amps stay the same"
It better to buy a new six volt battery.....having two in parallel, can be a problem with charging.
If one start a charging problem , the other one will suffer.......it's like feeding two.
@@tallboy49 Of course, it is a 12V system.
Great looking old scooter . That system :- Dynastart , Bing style carb , foot change . two stroke , was very typical European scooter . Zundapp , Nsu , Puch . Looking forward to part two , my Zundapp did exactly the same thing .
Wow, I congratulate you for the pure emotion you have... the same thing would have happened to me... I was born in October 1965. Congratulations! Ferni Deck by Garmin Deck from the shores of Mar del Plata in Argentina
This Tatran 125 model of scooter was made by Jawa motorcycles of Czechoslovakia, they were popular although now very rare, Jawa parts are still available certainly in Europe
Dobré repliky náhradním dílů JAWA, v dobré kvalitě, vyrábí firma MOTOMAX Hodonín, v České republice.
I certain I am not alone when saying: I would want that scooter. These were made to be legit daily use transportation. Very cool find.
I'm betting that thing will be worth alot more than you paid. Very cool find!
Two 6 volt batteries in parallel is 6 volt and two 6 volt batteries in series is 12 volts.
You saved me a comment 😄
@666kty3 How are you doing that with two batteries? 4 yes.
Wow, I can't believe speedo cable broke that soon! 😆
When said I parallel, I knew it was wrong. Series will make it 12.
@666kty3 Slow
Joe, the little wire wound resistor you found to the left of the fuses would make
me think that it's a ballast resistor for the ignition coil. It's purpose would be to
drop the voltage that the coil is fed when the engine is running. It would likely
be a 6volt coil on the machine.
When the starter is engaged, it causes the voltage to sag down to around
8 volts, and this is the same voltage the coil would see when starting.
The resistor is switched out when starting, but in once the engine is running
if you see what I mean.
Also the coil gets energized when the points are closed. If the ignition is left
on at this position of the engine for any length of time, the coil can burn out.
Feel the heat in the coil of a points ignition car and see for yourself.
Norton Commando's are set up that way. 2 6V coils in parallel which are fed through a ballast resistor from a 12V source. Ballast resistors are wound with a special nichrome wire which initially offers only a small resistance, then as current flow heats them up the resistance rises, dropping the output voltage. This happen over a few seconds time, which allows high voltage for better spark at starting and lower voltage for longer life of the coils while running.
Thing looks like a voltage regulator to me. Very old school these days with alternators. When generators were the "thing?" That what kept the battery (in your case batteries...lol) charged up. 1 thing ya HAD to do with those regulators was touch one wire to another (I forget what the procedure was called) but? If ya didn't? It would either ruin the regulator, or not charge the battery.
Ahhh! It's called "polarizing" the regulator. (t'was in the back of my mind. couldn't get it to come to the front though....lol)
@@AmosBHaven You remembered faster than me!
greetings from Czech republic,🇨🇿 yeah its one of the rarest bikes we made, and also no one knows about this brand, so you got pretty lucky to have this piece of art
Never been much of a scooter guy but that thing is so old and unique, I’d absolutely putz that thing around town! Cool find 👍
For sure!
I am 58 and you are my idol. I am hoping to retire in a few years and also build a garage/shop to work on motorcycles. I don’t think I could obtain the amazing finds you do. This one is insane. Vietnam has a lot of scooter mechanics and might be able to help you if you need to upgrade or find parts.
hey buddy. a small tip you may already know. I’ve been watching a bunch of your videos and noticed you have some trouble with stripped out screws. If you buy a bicycle inner tube and cut it into small squares, you can put the square on the top of a screw and than unsrew it and it usually helps with grip. Good vids!
what is this...Ichiban moto?😅
I know you’ve done it a million times now but my butt puckers every time you back a bike off your truck on that ramp 🤣
You too Ha> LOLOL
Sooner or later . . . . . . . . . .
Strange comment girlie man.
Disgusting comment. Have some manners.
You are not alone . He need air bags on the rear of the truck so he can lower it when loading and unloading .
Awesome find!!! It definitely has erratic and weak spark. That’s the biggest problem. It also seems to have some sort of vacuum leak hence the very labored throttle response and engine revs after closing throttle. It should be more responsive with a faster return to idle when letting go of throttle. Hopefully it’s not the crank seals!
I think this scooter needs a complete detailed cleaning and leave it AS IS!!!
(For 2vintage only!!!) I have a 2008 Lambretta it's in rough condition but it's a running motor and I've had more then enough fun out of it if you even want it for free I'm willing to do so I enjoy watching your videos and I would love to see it in better condition again
It's a 50cc 2 stroke moped if you interested shoot me a msg
Hasn't ran in 40 years. First start up. Joe: Braaaaappppp😅
yup thats what he does!!!so sad!!!back yard mechanic at best!!!
@yeahright302 im just teasing him to be honest. He's a hell of alot better mechanic than I am that's for sure. But i definitely do things different . To each their own . He's still one of my favorite channels to fallow.
@@kvandyke252 sad part is, he does this a lot in his vids and its sad.(mechanic)as you said, would never do this when something is sitting that long.hes just a back yard mechanic at best making vids as that's how makes his living!!he sad to people like this on you tube,because my self am a atv mechanic for the past 28 years.
@@yeahright302 That's why i stopped watching every video. He doesn't hear slipping clutch/doesn't hear knocking valves(as loud as pebbles in a soda can) revving cold old engines to the moon etc. He simply doesn't up his game after doing so many bikes. Then to me you are just stupid.
@@yeahright302professional hater lol, 100+ comments on this channel
Hey mate, Kev from Australia here. I was thinking you must be six foot plus the way you step down from the back of your truck lol no way i could do that without loosing the bike or myself in a mess, and I,m five eight. Loving your show, like many others it seems, and well done on that. In Australia there is nowhere near as many second hand bikes and quads as you have there with your population. So its difficult to find anything worth the money they want. 15 millioin adults in Australia lol and a population of 26 nmillion. And its a hard counrty on machinery. Congratulations on your new property and I hope you have a pit and a ramp in your new place. cheers and regards from Kev.
i gave my LIKE for just being able to see it on a 50in display... never seen one.
50:00 any 12 volt automotive coil will work……what puzzles me is the positive ground. English bikes are like this.
I think if you just got a VW coil it would work. You may have to turn the leads around though, so that the positive side is going to the points, and the negative is powering the coil.
On a modern negative ground, the negative goes to the points.
Investigate those points and condenser. I’ll bet there from a VW.
Also, the plug may be fouled….it could spark outside, but under compression not fire.
Very cool find indeed.
Thanks for sharing.
I had a 150cc Austrian Puch 2-stroke scooter in New Zealand in 1967-1971. It was similar to this Tatran in concept, but the gearchange was via a rotating left handgrip and it had only a kickstart. I think it was a bit lighter than this more luxurious Tatran. A housemate had a 350 cc NZeta, a New Zealand assembled version of the Czechoslovak/Polish CZeta/Jawa 2-cylinder 2-stroke motorbike with automatic clutch. I rode it quite often. (Note: It was the Czechoslovak Socialist Republic in the 1960's, not Czech Republic). After some painful long-distance riding at 35 mph on the Puch, I bought in 1968 a 1956 500cc Triumph Tiger 100 with touring saddlebags and carrier, and the long distances became very pleasant at 70 mph 🙂
Wow, a rare find. Love the variety. In the late 1960s a neighbor kid had a Sears Allstate scooter, I was so jealous
Hahahaha the museum wanted but you got there first, pretty good line from that salesman.
I didn't see no salesman wanting to buy that scooter for a museum.Where did you hear that?🛵
That awesome original 20 mile time piece belongs in a museum!!!😮❤
I used to have a 1972 restored vespa px 125, and that bike reminds me of the very rare Italian lambrettas 😊 seen a guy on TH-cam restoring one of those a couple of months ago
Funky looking machine Joe,never heard this beaut!👌🤟👋👋👋🤝
Just a idea for ya Joe..pick up a metal cookie sheet (9x11) for your next carb rebuild...it will catch everything, plus your work bench won't be soaking up the liquid carb cleaner :>)
He won't listen, he is a total idiot
Take the bike to a lock smith they’ll make a key for it or just take the key switch to them I do it all the time when I get a bike that has no key
Agreed, just had one made last week. I brought them the lock cylinder and it was 30 bucks.
All he needs to do is bring the ignition. The scooter can stay home.
A lot of those old locks and ignitions weren’t much, nearly anything old key would open them if not just a flat screwdriver.
the batteries have to be in series to make 12 volts... If you run them parallel it will still be 6V... Fantastic find Joe! I hope you do another video on this... I have a coil from a Peugeot Moped, if you think that will work, I'll send it to ya...Let me know...
Remember when soldering.. you heat up the wire and add tin to the wire and not to the iron.
I find adding a dab of solder to the iron helps heat transfer to the wire happen quicker and saves from too much heat going up the wire. Each to their own, I guess.
Heat the wire, copper tubing etc on the opposite side from where you will be applying the silver solder so that the solder will flow towards the heat source and give full coverage. That’s the general concept of soldering. Apply the heat, wait and then apply the solder and it will pull inwards toward the hottest point.
Or use rosin, would make the solder flow into the nooks and crannies
Joe is a total hack
Looks like a lot more than 20 miles. My 74' yamaha DT250 is six volt. And the solenoid looks more like a voltage regulator/relay. Cool funky looking bike, great find !
Im amazed everything was in such good condition. Its a little gem.
Its good to hear the sound of a 2 stroke engine again. Thanks for a great video.
My first thought would be bad plug wire. Next thought, im not sure about this coil, but on many old 24v systems you needed a battery disconnect switch. The constant power to the coil without the engine running would burn the coils out. That would explain why they had a clamp on the terminal. Easy connect/disconnect without tools.
You did A FANTASTIC JOB ,for my experience in cars the old ones at changing coil you change condenser too ,because the contact point adjusting is only one cylinder, that is next to impossible you got to use your hearing how it sound. good luck.
There were three cables next to the battery's I think that bike is dule voltage 12v for the lights and 6v for the ignition/coil hence cooking the coil when on a 12 charge
Could be that is the case
One ccable is battery positive (positive ground), one cable is battery negative and the third cable is positive for the resistor near the regulator.
Was thinking the same
What an old skool classic sciggity scooter. I wasn't shocked you got it running. You always do. Great video
More amazed the tires hold air after 40 years.
They weren't tubeless in those daze.
@@mrmullett1067 Even tubes deteriorate over time.
Joe, this is a cool find for sure! 59 year old piece of history there
Great video
I’m wondering if that coil is really a 6 volt coil? Or maybe powering the coil over night on 12 volts cooked it. Is that system using 12 volt starter and 6 volt ignition? Im sure you’ll figure it out. I’ll be looking for next video on this one.
It´s all 12V.
Your lovely scooter has a Dyno start a system used back in the day - it's a direct drive brushed motor-generator that rocks the engine back and forth until it gets enough momentum to get over-compression - it was used on many Villiers engines fitted to micro cars
Having viewership around the world can have advantages. Very cool scooter. I wonder if Mike from American Pickers could help? Hes and old scooter enthusiasts.
WoW what a find, at my first glance I thought this was a Zündapp, good luck!
Carb wise, It probably helped that the gas that evaporated years ago wasn’t the crappy fuel we have now.
This is so much fun to watch! This thing wants to FLY man!
If that kickstand gives in it will go trough the wall.
This is a candidate for a true complete restoration!
Completely agree with you but not by Joe, he would leave it dirty.
From sitting 20 years straight to redline….hell yeah I would t have it any other way keep up the good work
To be fair, the idle was high....lol.. Seems like a good time to shut down and readjust the idle.
That thing that the 2 yellow wires went to, that is mounted on the chassis? I don't think that was a ground. I think it was a resistor. Bypassing it could cause the coil to get cooked.
Very good find though. Will be fun to get it running properly.
the bike suits you pretty well :)
New coil and cables, engine checkup and a little restauration will be amazing!
Cool , there's a video of a guy on YT restoring one back to factory condition
Check for dried out crankshaft seals. Coil ? A Bosch 6 volt coil should work. Compression will trick you. It will start at a certain PSI, then drop just a couple of PSI and then not run. Check for bad crankshaft seals by spraying a bit of ether on , or near the seals. If the idle RPM goes up, then they are leaking. Condensers and coil need to go. P.S. - Run the oil mix on the rich side.
Joe, I just looked it up. So if it is 20 Klm, that would equal about 12 miles. WOW!
doesnt sound accurate. it was messed with or rolled over
Sounds amazing, almost like that specific sound of a Zündapp KS50 or Kreidler Floret moped.
Scooters from his era usually ran on 25:1.
That corresponds with the label on the bike (which was ignored 😂)
Oil has also gotten better
In this era the oil and fuel has not the quality of today. All my 2-strokes are running on 1:50. Even the scooter from the 60s.
@@GettingNervous yes, but the gas contained lead which helps lubrication too. And today's gas is lead free.
@@vesandreev7864 That doesn't matter. Ethanol in petrol is much worse. Nowadays, oils are so good that you don't need lead in petrol anymore.
Very interesting to watch you chase down problems and get it going...its a pit the coil fried but hopefully you can get a replacement from the lead below. Best of luck with it, look forward to seeing it going again!
That thing is worthy of a proper restoration.
Joe doesn't have the ability
😂 it's worth more as it is
I don't believe it has only 20miles...but it was a great find! hope you get that coil and new fuses also. there are 2 that are still ceramic. new wiring is always good in old systems just to start from scratch instead of using old system and not knowing if everything is ok.
My thoughts also. There's a lot of dirt around the engine for 20 miles. If it had a couple of hundred , there would be so much dirt that you would not be able to see inside the box.
You can still get coils for these, even pistons and other parts.
Hey, I've been watching your videos for the last week. Nice job brother🤠
series not parallel. in series you get 12 volts. in parallel you get 6 volts but double the amperage.
hi i seen the best way to solder wires on another site, i all ways did it like your doing but this other guy had his soldering iron under the wire and solder on top of the wire, so as the wire heated the solder melted right through i haven tried it but it did look like a stronger solder , like your shows thanks, O what happened with the BSA did i miss the finish of it
Automotive, aircraft marine etc use crimps, not solder joints. Solder cracks easily under vibration, don't you ever wonder why there's no soldered joints as standard?
And it's soLder, not sodder!
Joe this thing needs to go to Mechum auntion. Very rare find
Cool. I love old 2 strokes. Many years ago, I had a 1960 Mitsubishi Silver Pigeon C-200 125 2 stroke. It was made in Japan, and originally sold by Montgomery Wards. They were made for many years, in both 2 stroke and 4 stroke variations and different displacements, but they all had a CVT transmission as far as I know. Mine did. That CVT was its weak point. Mine never did work properly.
Comrade Joe, good find!
This brings back memories of my old 49cc Simson Schwalb which I owned back in the 1980s. Its design was a very similar, but less slick version of your Tatran. However. the engine note is exactly the same. In the UK the Schwalb was classed as a moped and should have been limited to 30 mph. In reality it did over forty. I expect your 125 will do more than 50mph if pushed.
Yeah you didn't even have to rev the heck out of it. this time it did it all by itself. This bike is designed for you. Still didn't stop you from trying to rev it anyway
Lol I know cold starts and he revs the shi out of em
He is such a butcher "mechanic". The worst
Wow..now that's a find..I like the looks of it too and being all original the Patina is awesome.. if you decided to try and polish it up without making the paint use Soft scrub liquid cleaner but make sure it's name brand. I've been using it on cars and trucks even motorcycles for years ..Great find
12 volts into a 6 volt system never ends well.
It is a 12V system.
I have been a small gas motor guy for years since I was 15 now 41 and what u show u have gone way above what alot do would like to have a chat some time
Wow what a find!!!!!
Amazing how you tear into things and get them running and even the electrical components functioning again with what i believe is self taught knowledge!!! Pretty Cool how far you have come with yur passion for mechanics!
First start in decades - let's rev the bollocks off it!
Yeah!
thats what he does all the time in his vids.so sad.
He does it on fresh rebuilds, why would you expect anything less 😂
@@aus-rider so true!!
Great video, always fun to see you get these going. Ever thought of getting an ultra sonic cleaner for those carb jobs etc.?
A 1965 two stroke rarity I think a 40 to 1 oil mix is to little oil though for this age of bike think I would be using 25 to 1 or 32 to 1 Reminds me of riding about on my Lambretta GP 150 in the 1970's same engine noise Keep the Patina though they only have original paint once If its 12 volt just buy any 12 volt coil
I lived in Dutton Montana. I drove One to choteau I was just sharing this with my kids. I hadn't seen one of those since 1969. It was a beast you would have to crank forever to get it started. You better get to where you're going because if you shut it off, you have to wait for it to get stone cold before you can start it again that's the way it was for me, a real heavy scooter
I love the scooter I used to own a 56 lambretta with a sidecar it was pretty rough and needed a new Magneto cables and other unobtainable parts at the time this is many years ago and a guy begged me for it I sold it to him he restored it he said it cost a fortune for the parts I know that but I like old scooters they're cool I used to have a Cushman I drove it everywhere and Allstate it was a fun scooter the one you found that's really cool you never see those have a great day thanks for the inspiration I'm too old to ride motorcycles or ATVs or whatever anymore I guess my dream bike is a Honda Rune they're incredible check it out have a great day I'll keep watching
Actually they used 2 6 volts because there wasn't enough room for a12 volt unit at the time.
Its must be possibol to have just an 12v batteri
Nice find and great job….i love that old thing!👍🏼👍🏼
I don't know about the 20 miles on the clock....my old Lambretta had a broken speedo cable for years, so had "mystery mileage"
Just look at the tires. Are they the factory ones? And how much wear on them. Then you know.
@@Odder-Being Good point. Joe should see if the tires are date stamped.
@@artboy57 Ah yes there is also the date stamp 👍
Thanks for a great video. I note that others have said two batteries in parallel give the same voltage (6v) but can supply more current. Two batteries in series give 12v. My guess is that the coil needed a resistor in series with it, so without that it was drawing too much current and that cooked it.
Do you really expect the 60 year old seals to be just fine and dandy?
That's a neat little scooter. From the era I'd guess it was a 6v system. You could make it work either 12v or 6v but the coil, charging system, starter and bulbs all need to be the same gender.