What If Harry Never Called The Knight Bus? | Harry Potter Film Theory

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  • @ritik_ghanshani
    @ritik_ghanshani ปีที่แล้ว +241

    I like to imagine that Wizarding world is real and Harry, Hermione, and Ron binge watch these theories whenever they meet up

    • @Water_blade2011
      @Water_blade2011 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      𝕋𝕙𝕒𝕥 𝕨𝕠𝕦𝕝𝕕 𝕓𝕖 𝕣𝕖𝕒𝕝𝕝𝕪 𝕗𝕦𝕟𝕟𝕪 😅

    • @LizLuvsCupcakes
      @LizLuvsCupcakes 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Might be kind of a downer of an evening, but I could also see that being really fun.
      (On the off-chance you're reading this, Hi Harry, Ron and Hermione!!)

    • @coco_mitten987
      @coco_mitten987 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I want to like this but it’s 222 likes so I don’t want to mess it up

  • @missflite74
    @missflite74 ปีที่แล้ว +696

    The silver lining is that Harry and Sirius have a true friendship/ godfather-son relationship. The fact that Harry and Sirius spend so little time together was always the most heartbreaking part of Sirius's death; they mostly communicated by letters and fire talk (?) Harry says to Dumbledore, "It's just hard, knowing I'll never get another letter from him."

    • @philsurtees
      @philsurtees ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yeah, it would have been nice for them to get through it all, then have the rest of their lives to explore their relationship, for Sirius to tell Harry more about his parents, and be a Grandpa to Harry and Ginny's kids. Still, every good story has some tragedy in it. Stories in which everything goes well don't feel legitimate, somehow, because every person's life has some tragedy in it? Often, it's the tragedies which help us learn and grow?

    • @Pdmc2016
      @Pdmc2016 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@philsurteesrandom sudden loss is a reality that must be faced sometimes sadly. Its a good element to add to your story if you treat the death well.

    • @chrisberotti5876
      @chrisberotti5876 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂 gg gtg tg t yg t t y gtg🎉🎉

  • @kerrimccauley1245
    @kerrimccauley1245 ปีที่แล้ว +634

    My question is, Did Harry ever consider the Dursley’s as home? From the way they treated him I’d say no, but I’m curious to what others think.

    • @coolnerdlll6053
      @coolnerdlll6053 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      In the movies, no.
      "I'm not going home, not really."
      I know the magical protection on him only lasts while he considers it home, which is why they move him in DH, but he still lives there whether he likes it as a home or not.

    • @TyJay20
      @TyJay20 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      I don't think you actually have to consider the place your home, you just have to live there. The house you live in is still your home whether you like it or not

    • @missynnifer
      @missynnifer ปีที่แล้ว +43

      In the literal sense yes, in the sentimental sense, no.

    • @Aichi1138
      @Aichi1138 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@TyJay20 house and home are two very *VERY* Different words. A house is a shelter where you reside
      Home is where you desire to be

    • @TyJay20
      @TyJay20 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Aichi1138 Emotionally yes but in a technical sense its your home regardless, which I think is all the charm here requires

  • @thedragonwarrior5861
    @thedragonwarrior5861 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    I'd like to imagine that when Pettigrew is revealed, Sirius just barges in in dog form, growling at Pettigrew. Pettigrew realizes who this is, and terrified for his life, try to pin blame back on Sirius. He's escorted out, Harry tells Sirius it's safe, and he transforms, making all the Ministry members flinch while Mrs. Weasley screams, all while Sirius justs looks cooly at the Ministry. Quickly enough everything is understood and Sirius is pardoned for the crime he didn't do. He then hugs Harry fiercely, and thanks him

    • @rakimmeaderds805
      @rakimmeaderds805 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      "Ah James, you have never failed to save my tail! And you have saved me harry, truly and proper. i-*voice breaks* though I had lost you...oh I couldn't bear the shame of meeting your father on my deathbed, a greasy vagabond. Broke, broken, an' half mad. Honestly old James could stomach that. But if I left you? If I lost you to riddle? He'd cut the shine from me and he would speak no more."

  • @coolnerdlll6053
    @coolnerdlll6053 ปีที่แล้ว +4239

    I've got the ultimate seven-part theory idea: What if the troll killed Hermione? The series would be completely different without her.

    • @candycemonroe7345
      @candycemonroe7345 ปีที่แล้ว +292

      No, I can't even imagine that. WOW

    • @katholmes7112
      @katholmes7112 ปีที่แล้ว +278

      No it would come out that Ron and Harry bullied her. Even Dumbledore couldn't protect them from the consequences as he too would be under review. This would be the perfect excuse Lucius Malfoy needed as a school governor to oust him.

    • @elliehindman7842
      @elliehindman7842 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ron and Harry would die immediately. Hermione is the only reason those idiots are alive…

    • @CrashKinkaide
      @CrashKinkaide ปีที่แล้ว +74

      That would be AMAZING. Dark, but amazing.

    • @peter42466
      @peter42466 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      And the sixth and third book would be so much less annoying

  • @DreadKyller
    @DreadKyller ปีที่แล้ว +96

    At the end of Prisoner, while Harry is in the hospital prior to going back in time, they talk to Fudge and try to explain to him that Sirius is innocent and that it was Peter Pettigrew, which fudge in usual style brushes off without even consideration. And this also serves as the point where Fudge goes from being supportive of Harry to starting to doubt everything Harry and Dumbledore say, considering harry to be a bit delusional, an opinion that only gets stronger the next year after the tournament. In this alternate series of events however Harry and Dumbledore are proven to be correct, Fudge can't ignore it, and it doesn't give Fudge any reason to be immediately as doubtful about their claims. Meaning next year when Voldemort may still come back, Fudge may not dismiss the possibility right away. Given the ministry was just shown that it had had the wrong prisoner for 12 years, there's be more pressure to not mess up another major decision. Furthermore with Sirius being proven innocent, the Ministry can't effectively handwave all the terrible happenings afterward (like the Azkaban breakout) as being done by him. I think in this series of events, the Ministry is not in as much of denial about Voldemort's return, and may actually provide some aid or resistance to Voldemort's rise.
    If Harry was also around Grimauld place, the dementor attack that happened at the beginning of Order of the Phoenix likely doesn't happen, or if it does happens in an area where Sirius is likely to be able to be a witness as well. Personally I feel it wouldn't have happened at all, it's a overall more crowded area, with at least a few magical people in the area, plus the place would have been protected, it'd be harder for Umbridge to hide her involvement most likely. Furthermore Umbridge had so much power because she continued to try convincing Fudge that Dumbledore was after his position, a position Fudge already believed, a claim that given the current standing of Dumbledore and Harry may not be as effective. Even if it did occur, the farce of a trial was done so mostly to discredit Harry and Dumbledore further, again not as easy considering their new standing, having helped them capture Pettigrew. All of this I feel means Voldemort won't be as easily able to rise to power. The order won't have to be as secretive in it's missions to avoid the ministry catching wind, the ministry itself may ramp up searches and act on odd intel they'd otherwise ignore. Harry's testimony on the Death eaters he saw in the graveyard may be more respected and looked into. The ministry may have started taking the idea that it could have been infiltrated more seriously, which may help prevent the collapse of the ministry as quickly. Voldemort may still rise to power, but it'd be much more difficult for him this time. The order may have even informed the ministry about Voldemort's plans for the prophesy, making it harder to get ahold of it. Overall I feel Voldemort would get back to power slower in this scenario, and many of the faithful death eaters may have been caught, and it'd have been more difficult for the others to go around recruiting people to the death eater's side, meanwhile being easier for the order to go about recruiting people. Furthermore Dumbledore wouldn't have had to go into hiding and could have been active in the events preceding the battle, including being there right off the bat if a battle even occurred at all, meaning he may have stepped in to fight Voldemort and defend Sirius like he did with Harry in the books. With Dumbledore still in the picture Voldemort may have not even gone to the ministry. Considering it was Dumbledore who went through and effectively tied the death eaters up with magic prior to fighting Voldemort, Bellatrix would have most likely been included with the other captured death eaters.
    But personally I struggle to see why there's even be a battle at all, if there's higher ministry presence, Dumbledore is still in play, the order likely being larger, and Voldemort's forces likely not as well setup yet, I don't see Voldemort going to the Ministry, and Harry having been told of the prophesy and knowing how the mirror works wouldn't be tempted to go there either, so neither party that can remove the prophesy would end up going to the Ministry, which means the battle likely never even takes place, which of course would have it's own major consequences, like the Malfoy's not being super punished by having Draco being forced to kill Dumbledore, so who knows how Half-Blood prince would Happen.
    If I have one criticism of several of your what if theories, it's that you seem to arbitrarily choose plot points that should still happen and then force the story to go in that direction even if it's the least organic option. A small change could likely alter major parts of the story into being unrecognizable, trying to force the story to follow similar plot beans despite these major changes just feels forced, it feels unnatural, really odd or weird decisions or events are done by the characters in order to move closer to connecting the desired plotlines. Sometimes this even involves creating new information or items/people/creatures/magic etc. out of thin air despite there being no basis for them in established lore, or even sometimes contradicting established lore(*cough* several things in the what if Harry was in Slytherin videos *cough*)

    • @MordechaiHershoffyoutube
      @MordechaiHershoffyoutube ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The 7 part series is supposed to do some of those things, but what in it was against lore?
      if you say controlling the Basilsk like many say then your wrong for Riddle didn't know that Harry was a horcrux.
      The ministry still wouldn't believe Harry or that's to say Fudge wouldn't want to however Crouch is likely still alive so with his support they may be convinced.

    • @TheEmergencyBanana
      @TheEmergencyBanana ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you make this comment any longer?

    • @DreadKyller
      @DreadKyller ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@MordechaiHershoffyoutube I have no issue with the controlling the basilisk. But rather more the out-of-nowhere idea that the phoenix tears healing the basilisk's eyes but not it's death gaze, that part in specific feels like something out of a bad fanfic more than a theory.
      Even so you're claim that it's incorrect to assume Harry wouldn't be able to control the Basilisk simply because he's a horcrux is odd. While it might be possible, there's no evidence in the books or other source materials that Harry being a horcrux would have allowed him to control the Basilisk, the concept that being a horcrux allows Harry to control it is not in source material and is entirely speculation in the video. There's no evidence disproving it, but there's also no evidence supporting it, it's entirely supposition. That said, I don't have issue with that part of the video as I said above.
      I feel I have to clarify that I'm a Patreon supporter, so don't think I have ill will towards the channel, I just feel some of these videos labeled "theory" have more of fanfic elements to them than they should.
      As for your claim about the ministry, I just disagree. As I stated, Fudge only starts doubting Harry and Dumbledore when they try convincing Fudge that Sirius is innocent and that the real culprit was Ron's pet rat in Prisoner of Azkaban. This is the moment fudge goes from being friendly to doubting Harry's sanity and Dumbledore's intentions (which Umbridge then takes advantage of the mistrust to convince Fudge that Dumbledore's trying to take over his office). Without that interaction there's no catalyst for that mistrust to fester. Though you raise an excellent point about Crouch if he manages to not die in this scenario (Though in the proposed scenario Barty Crouch Jr. still goes under the guise of Moody during the tournament so who knows if he would survive)

    • @DreadKyller
      @DreadKyller ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TheEmergencyBanana I could probably add a few paragraphs if you desire.

    • @MordechaiHershoffyoutube
      @MordechaiHershoffyoutube ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DreadKyller As for the Basilsk eyes its possible that it wouldn't heal the death stare because the healing process will just give it back eyes and the eyes that it started with had the death stare though I agree its not very good.
      as for proof that Harry could control you have the fact that the diary controlled it, granted the diary is only horcrux where as Harry has himself to, but its 100% leaning towards him controlling it.
      I won't disagree about your feeling that sometimes they make things happen because that's the fanfic.
      Fudge only started doubting Harry after the Rita Skeeter article, and even that he wasn't likely to believe till it was convenient for him when he didn't want to believe Harry on Voldemort's return, he didn't seem to disbelieve Harry about Madam Maxime because he was nuts, but it looked more like he kind of believed him but didn't want to and dismissed him as young (from my understanding), also he thought Harry was under a spell when he said Sirius was innocent, and thought Snape crazy he didn't doubt Harry's sanity, he just thought he was confused (don't remember the name of the spell), and he also didn't know that Harry was a Parselmouth which he found out in Rita's article along with his "collapsing around the school" thing, so I don't think he needed the Sirius thing to make him say Voldemort's not back.
      And Crouch in my opinion would survive since he wouldn't be under the impirus curse, for when his would escape he'd be on guard and probably warn Dumbledore immediately about his son, even though Bertha wouldn't be lost and killed, for he would know what his son is trying to do, and pretending that he's still Moody he wouldn't have a chance to kill him at the time without raising Dumbledore's suspesions, plus he might not overpower Moody by himself, although its possible he would, but in the real timeline he had Wormtail's help.

  • @shannonmcdaniel291
    @shannonmcdaniel291 ปีที่แล้ว +220

    What If Draco Malfoy went to get his wand instead of his mother the first year ? Harry wouldn’t have met him at the robe shop (giving him a negative view of slytherin, so he may not have asked the hat to not put him there) and how strong of a wizard would Draco actually be if the wand chose him, instead of using whatever his mom picks for him.

    • @theeeveelutionist7245
      @theeeveelutionist7245 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      That was already made. It’s what if Harry wasn’t in Slytherin. It’s on the channel, it revolves that Draco and Harry never met in the robe shop so Harry didn’t have a negative view of Slytherin so he didn’t ask the sorting hat not to put him in it

    • @13vatra
      @13vatra ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ​@@theeeveelutionist7245 yeah that part was done, but I am curious about Draco getting his wand the proper way. Could be interesting.

    • @TheFrontzClub
      @TheFrontzClub ปีที่แล้ว +6

      harry was already told by hagrid that slytherin is where most dark wizard come from so he had to thought on slytherin as a bad view

    • @livinglargeonasmallbudget1027
      @livinglargeonasmallbudget1027 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Actually Yes ... I love this comment and hope they make a video about if Draco was there or not to get his wand.
      I always thought the wand chooses the wizard, so I always assumed Draco would go meet his mother at the wand shop after getting his robes.
      I personally don't know if his mother picked out the wand because Olivander would have told Narcisia, "the wand chooses the wizard" and she would want her son to have the best. Meaning she would have waited on Draco to arrive before buying any wand... but who knows for sure. Very interesting question/ topic.

    • @EthanKWaters
      @EthanKWaters ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The line is to the effect of "Mother is looking at wands". It's not that she was buying Draco's wand for him, but that she was likely checking out different wand shops to get a sense for the quality, or otherwise at Ollivander's and talking about Draco to Ollivander to give him some idea of what kind of wand might suit Draco. So nothing should change at all on the front you seem most interested in - Draco would be as good of a wizard as in canon.

  • @brandonfrance387
    @brandonfrance387 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Ever since the what if Harry Potter was in Slytherin series i get so excited when I see a new what if theory from SCB

  • @DavidRay39
    @DavidRay39 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    There's no way Harry, Ron and Hermione could become Animagi in less than a year. It took Harry's Dad - as well as Sirius and Pettigrew - the better part of three years. Not even Hermione, as brilliant as she is, could have done it in less than a year.

    • @alesztra937
      @alesztra937 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It takes less than a year to actually do it. But 3 years to figure out how to do it.

    • @alliyanasgalaxies
      @alliyanasgalaxies 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@alesztra937no, I think it took them 3 years because it's a difficult process and the time has to be right, if the full moon night is even cloudy the whole process has to start again. It also might have taken a while to get the storm that they needed to complete it

    • @alesztra937
      @alesztra937 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alliyanasgalaxies the book states that it took them 3 years to figure out how to do it, and they finally succeeded in their 5th year at Hogwarts. Interpret that as you will

  • @neomercury4279
    @neomercury4279 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Also, if Harry was living with Sirius, He would probably be taught actual occlumency instead of what happens in order of the phoenix with snape forcefully entering his mind. Sirius probably would have been the one to teach him as well, because of his family up until him aside from Dorea Potter Née Black being a dark aligned family. Being aligned with the dark arts, his family likely taught him occlumency. Or any pure blood family teaches the young ones occlumency to protect family magics. Either way, Harry probably had a proper teacher for occlumency as opposed to Snape.

    • @samstromberg5593
      @samstromberg5593 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dude Snape is actually a fantastic teacher, Harry just doesn’t see it because he doesn’t like him
      The problem isn’t that SNAPE can’t teach him, it’s that HARRY is just terrible at Occlumency
      We never see any evidence that Sirius is any sort of Occlumens OR Ligilimens, and have no reason to believe that he would have been able to teach Harry - although still, even if he could, Harry is just terrible at Occlumency and never would’ve learned anyway, it wouldn’t make a difference🤷‍♂️

    • @BlueAvocado3
      @BlueAvocado3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@samstromberg5593not really, it's crystal clear Snape was using that opportunity to bully Harry

  • @ericbell7
    @ericbell7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I loved all the jokes in this episode!
    Neville as a goldfish is brilliant!

  • @SwankSinatra007
    @SwankSinatra007 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Harry would’ve just asked for his permission slip to Hogsmeade to be signed 😂

  • @joshuaking3731
    @joshuaking3731 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You've already done "what if Harry was in Slitherin" but what about "what if Hermione was in Ravenclaw" or even better. "What if Nevel was in Hufflpuff?"

  • @confusedninjax1816
    @confusedninjax1816 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your "What if" ideas. You always do such a great job exploring the possibilities without ignoring the rules set up in the books. So much fun to watch!

  • @theblackthorn4605
    @theblackthorn4605 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm so glad Lavender gets to live this time, I was heartbroken when she died. Saddest part of the whole series.

  • @Questionthis1
    @Questionthis1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I actually don’t think POA would be wildly different. He knows Sirius is his godfather, but also he’s not publicly acquitted just like in OOTP and Goblet so he’s more of a background character on the run. The last thing he will want to do is go to the burrow since someone form the ministry works there. It’s likely more like “Harry I’m your godfather but it’s not safe for us to stick together so I’ll be relegated to a background role this book while you deal with Hogwarts stuff.”
    Hermione still has the time tuner, Ron still loses scabbers the whole book, except when Harry hears all these horrible stories about Sirius and doesn’t know whether he’s being honest with Harry or lying to get closer to him.
    Harry keeps Sirius a secret from everyone, Harry gets the marauder’s map and sees Peter Petigrew, Lupin still teaches him patronous because he still teaches a class on Boggarts where Harry is still scared of Dementors from the Hogwarts express.
    Where it’s different is they see Peter on the map heading to the whomping willow to go hide in the shrieking shack and Harry and gang chase after him. They get there, Sirius and Lupin catch up, similar exchange happens between them and snape, Lupin goes Werewolf, Sirius goes on the run, and Harry and Hermione AND RON all get to go back in time with the time turner to do pretty much the same things they already did this book.

  • @colbybumgarner3050
    @colbybumgarner3050 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should do, how the Goblet of Fire tournament and Voldemort's plan would've gone had Mad Eye Moody defeated Barty Crouch Jr and was never captured by him? Be interesting to think about how Voldemort would've gone about being getting Harry to the graveyard to be revived since Harry would've never been in the tournament

  • @lonelyprince0
    @lonelyprince0 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't know if the trio, maybe Hermione, can become animagus in 1 year to have a showdown with Lupin at the end of the year
    Even for James and Sirius, who were smart, just don't like school, several years to accomplish it

  • @C.Johnson9714
    @C.Johnson9714 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OMG! this what if scenario would’ve sounded amazing to read if it was canon.
    11:59-12:43 The idea of Harry, Ron and Hermione becoming Animagi sounds awesome, especially if Harry was able to turn into a stag and fight the acromantulas in the maze. 16:13-16:26 🦌🐶🦦 🕷️
    And while it still would’ve been sad that Sirius dies in this what if scenario at least Harry would’ve had a good few more happy moments with him.

  • @williamcopper4958
    @williamcopper4958 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had an idea for Harry Potter Film Theory. Why do Quidditch referees, when they vanish, always turn up in the Sahara Desert?

  • @billiam256
    @billiam256 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if Harry wakes up in his cupboard under the stairs at the end of the last book still 11 years old and thinks: "Well that was a weird dream!"?

  • @alenasenie6928
    @alenasenie6928 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's so funny to think of Barty Crouch Jr saying "I will show you how it's done" when he was one of the best defense against the dark arts teacher Harry had.

  • @tinuviel1127
    @tinuviel1127 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:14, I think it works all the time, even when he's not there, because he considered it home.

  • @stevencowan37
    @stevencowan37 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Regarding "what are the odds" with Scabbers ends up with the Weasleys: I don't think it was an accident - Pettigrew was an Order member, and we know that Molly's brothers Gideon and Fabian were also in the order. Pettigrew wanted to be in a wizarding household, and to stay under the radar. But if you hide with a wizarding family that has a lot of free time, you might tip them off that you're not really a rat. Molly and Arthur at that point had at least 6 kids if not all 7, including the twins, Arthur was working full time at the ministry (and maybe with the order, I can't recall if he was a member in the first war) and that kept the adults too busy to notice if he was a bit un-rat-like. Plus it gave him the comfort of staying in one place for a while, since he got handed from Percy to Ron as a pet.
    As for the odds that Ron ended up as one of Harry's friends? Like 1:20. There were 40 students in his year, 10 in each house. If we assume at least two would become his best friends, it was a roll of a d20; but the wizarding world is so small that even if Ron wasn't his best mate, he would have at least recognized them.

  • @Steve_A93
    @Steve_A93 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Here's a What If Scenario: What if Snape had been allowed to teach Defense Against the Dark Arts earlier? (Maybe as a reward for his protection of Harry during Philosopher's Stone, so he'd get the job instead of Lockhart)

  • @harryasmith527
    @harryasmith527 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't think Hermione would become an unregistered animagus. She's all about the rules and couldn't imagine her breaking a law.

    • @JitteryJackanape
      @JitteryJackanape ปีที่แล้ว

      she breaks rules in literally every book lol

    • @jasondyrkacz8270
      @jasondyrkacz8270 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was Hermione's idea to start Dumbledore's Army.

  • @JonwithnoH0823
    @JonwithnoH0823 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only thing I'd change in my theory is that Harry has Sirius turn into his Animagus form and when found by ministry agents, he just says that he found a stray dog and REALLY wants to keep it.
    Being the famous 'boy who lived' they agree.
    Harry and Sirius probably end up at the Burrow later on, and myriad of circumstances change, but I'm just a sucker for 'a boy and his dog' stories!

  • @TamTroll
    @TamTroll ปีที่แล้ว +1

    as cool as it'd be to see Harry, Ron, and Hermoine being Animaigus fighting Lupin, i don't think it'd pan out. Doesn't the process take an entire year?

  • @landondunn8861
    @landondunn8861 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Am I the only one that thought that the Weasley's were in Egypt up until they meet Harry in Diagon Alley? I mean I feel that Fudge would've sent Harry to live with them for the remainder of the summer instead of letting him wander about. Or Molly would've shown up herself and dragged him to the burrow.

    • @hannahforeman
      @hannahforeman ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They come back from Egypt a week before school started. That's where they meet Harry and Hermione in Diagon Alley.

  • @jaybehkay2438
    @jaybehkay2438 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think dumbledore would be one of those cats with the smooshed faces

  • @ankanand
    @ankanand ปีที่แล้ว

    J - makes crazy hp theories
    Also J - forgets it takes a freaking THREE YEARS to become an Animagus

  • @AJJohnson_86
    @AJJohnson_86 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would be super interested in hearing a story where you link all of ur what ifs together in one cohesive story.

  • @babybunnyofdoom6834
    @babybunnyofdoom6834 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always felt like "Where your mother's blood dwells" should count wherever he is since he has his mother's blood in him

  • @captainsidekick3333
    @captainsidekick3333 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So pretty much nothing changes except Harry doesn't learn the patronus and becomes an Animagus. Very creative.

  • @ronakdave4466
    @ronakdave4466 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I want Sirius to live. I want his reactions on Harry having a crush on Cho, and then their breakup, and then Harry having a crush on Ginny. Can you imagine Sirius giving tips to Harry on how to woo girls; I mean come on... 😄😄

  • @incompresa
    @incompresa ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love SCB in their what-if era!

  • @callumshort8703
    @callumshort8703 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love these what if videos, could you do one where Harry accepts Lupins help in the 7th book?

  • @pmysta
    @pmysta ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its been a while since I read the books but wasn't Pettigrew in Egypt at that time so even if they did go to the Burrow, wouldn't they be alone there until hogwarts start? Also, they could run to hogsmead and use the honeydukes/shreeking shack entrance to get into hogwarts (where Harry feels at home) and then to the chamber of secrets that Harry just discovered and knows no one else can get in so Sirius would be safe there?

  • @KennyHrlms-ey2vy
    @KennyHrlms-ey2vy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Okay Jay & Ben, I'm still going to need that part 2, for where Harry is raise with his cousin Scabious and Professor Snape! Plz 🙏😁

  • @mikevanlieshout1624
    @mikevanlieshout1624 ปีที่แล้ว

    In this scenario, would Harry ever obtain the Marauder's Map? Since Sirius is around to sign Harry's permission slip to visit Hogsmeade, there would be no need for Harry to sneak out of the castle with his invisibility cloak. Therefore, the twins have no reason to pull Harry apart and show him the map.

  • @proflixx432
    @proflixx432 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I rlly wish harry, hermione and Ron became animaguss. It would’ve been soo cool

  • @andylee6022
    @andylee6022 ปีที่แล้ว

    The biggest fail of that "protection" is that Harry would never call it home.

  • @lorken22
    @lorken22 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question, in this instance, because Harry doesn't have the intention with the dementors on the train what would his bogart be? We know they would still have that lesson. Would it be Voldemort like Lupin was worried it would be in the first place? Or would it be something else?

  • @Devon523
    @Devon523 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey! I love that weird shrunken head, he’s one of my favorite parts of the movie. So you watch your mouth 🤣

  • @circomnia9984
    @circomnia9984 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here's something I don't get. When Peter 01:00 changes from a rat to a human, he is fully dressed. But when he changes back 06:20 to a rat, his clothes stays behind. Where does the clothes come from?!? Does he get a new set of clothes every time he changes back into a human? So basically, wizards never needs to buy new clothes?

    • @TickleTurtle
      @TickleTurtle ปีที่แล้ว

      Keeping the movie and books not 18+

  • @Jayniboi
    @Jayniboi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    dumbledore would be an owl. bc its a bird, birds in general are symbols of freedom in a sense of not beeing boud to something or someone and that was the case at that point in dumbledores life so the connection is there then owls are known to be symbols of wisdom, wich i dont have to explain. so i think owl fits the best, but thats just my take. im open for discusion :D

  • @shujihar2410
    @shujihar2410 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want to see you make a theory with film theory, I feel like you and matpat could create some wild theories

  • @plotholedetective4166
    @plotholedetective4166 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is just an HVAC duct knife, I have like 6. malco ones are the most durable you can stick them through metal plenums and trunkline all day without worrying about the tip. Klein tools makes one with the wire cutter hook but I don't like the balance. they only cost like 20 bucks at most supply warehouses like Johnson or century, and you can choose between wood or polymer handles......

  • @carish1452
    @carish1452 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if the Weasleys hadn’t returned from Egypt yet when Harry makes his way to the Burrow? Would Molly and Arthur recognize Snuffles or just think “cool new dog” or associate him with the Grim also?
    I think Sirius, Dumbledore and Harry could get special permission from the Wizengamot based on stopping Peter from returning to Voldemort, to show up at Little Whinging and Confund or otherwise legally force the Dursleys into moving into the least used rooms of Grimmauld Place. They’re erased from all their Muggle relations memories. Imagine Uncle Vernon living as the freeloading adult ward of the former fugitive, accused murderer wizard best friend of his magical in-laws 😂 Nothing could be more righteous. And it would be so satisfying to see all the relationship dynamics and personalities change -Harry’s confidence with the upper hand? Petunia living cheek by jowl with wizards and house elves?

  • @colbert4win
    @colbert4win ปีที่แล้ว

    Missed a great opportunity to consider the what-if of Sirius moving into 4 privet dr.

  • @SriNityaAnupindi
    @SriNityaAnupindi ปีที่แล้ว

    You forgot something -- the Weasleys would NOT be in the Burrow if Harry turned up there with Sirius. They are STILL in Egypt. Instead, they might run into the Ministry there, thinking that Harry might go there.

  • @ericgarcia3802
    @ericgarcia3802 ปีที่แล้ว

    Boy did I pick the best time to reread Prisoner just yesterday

  • @rickywebb1803
    @rickywebb1803 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if “The Super Carlin Brother got put in charge of their own Harry Potter universe TV show”

  • @coconuc2980
    @coconuc2980 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this series so muchhhhhhhh please keep doing it

  • @Master5522111
    @Master5522111 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if Voldemort decided to kill Neville instead of Harry?
    1) It would create a world where Neville is the chosen one
    2) It would mean Bellatrix probably tortured Harry’s parents into insanity
    3) It would be a world where Harry receives no special treatment but for the theory’s sake, he would still be the focus of the story with accounts about what Neville is probably doing since he is now in Harry’s shoes

  • @muhmuhmonahan4919
    @muhmuhmonahan4919 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think ones patronus and animagus animals are usually the same, but yeah, Snape's a bat.

  • @JustUrAveragePotterhead
    @JustUrAveragePotterhead ปีที่แล้ว

    Forgot about u guys but found u again and remembered how AMAZING u r

  • @steamenginestudios
    @steamenginestudios ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you know that the talking shrunken head was just a movie thing, right?

  • @evieedwards4619
    @evieedwards4619 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Snape would out Lupin being a werewolf since he probably doesn't like Sirius or Lupin getting back together and wants to punish them for what they did at school

  • @tylerz4851
    @tylerz4851 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now do "What if Cornelius listened to Dumbledore" please

    • @jasondyrkacz8270
      @jasondyrkacz8270 ปีที่แล้ว

      Umbridge gets fired and sent to Azkaban sooner.

  • @youtubeviewer4472
    @youtubeviewer4472 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I imagine Sirius would teach him how to make a patronus because Sirius would have a grudge against dementors.

  • @Ollie.H-23
    @Ollie.H-23 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They couldn't go straight to The Burrow though because the Weasleys are in Egypt. That's the whole reason Sirius escapes in the first place

    • @Yushikaaaaa
      @Yushikaaaaa 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They get back by the time yk

  • @jarrettb4647
    @jarrettb4647 ปีที่แล้ว

    With the phrasing of the charm being "as long as he can call the dursley's home" doesn't that mean the charm should have failed long before he was 17? Doesn't Harry specifically say that Hogwarts is his home multiple times through the story?

  • @myrthehubner4799
    @myrthehubner4799 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Weasley's aren't home at this point, they're on holiday in Egypt until just before term starts. Otherwise great theory! Enjoyed the video

  • @floydlooney6837
    @floydlooney6837 ปีที่แล้ว

    So George and Fred have been seeing "Peter Pettigrew" on their map with their brother for years and didn't think anything of it?

  • @GhostGaming-zc4sp
    @GhostGaming-zc4sp ปีที่แล้ว

    could students fly a broom to hogsmeade? in the books they are always walking, IE katie Bell, what if she flew her broom to the 2 broomsticks the day she touched the necklace, or just normal students flying to hogsmeade! love the videos no matter the topic

  • @superraegun2649
    @superraegun2649 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you think that if Voldemort hadn't returned as early as he did, that Dumbledore would've eventually figured out what the horecruxes were and been able to track them down and destroy them all. If Harry destroyed the last one it would still fulfil the prophecy, right?

    • @jasondyrkacz8270
      @jasondyrkacz8270 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dumbledore knew about the horcruxes since CoS.

  • @coleblack784
    @coleblack784 ปีที่แล้ว

    ... imagine if James Potter transformed into a stag and just straight up gored Voldemort with his antlers the moment he came through the door.

  • @AlexisStreams
    @AlexisStreams ปีที่แล้ว

    Question How did sirius know where to find harry and why did he go to surrey in the first place?

  • @DylanIsHere31
    @DylanIsHere31 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know you've done what if james kept the invisibility cloak but a spinoff of that would be what if james kept the invisibility cloak and harry and lilly fled to sirius hom

  • @hgtrftfr
    @hgtrftfr 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What gets me is that Harry has always considered Hogwarts to be his home which means that the spell dumbledore put on him would either be null and void or greatly diminished in strength

  • @harmonydesroches
    @harmonydesroches ปีที่แล้ว

    So good!! With imaginations like yours idk why the SCB haven't written a book/series of their own yet.

  • @charliefrable2872
    @charliefrable2872 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this comment will probably get lost down here but I have a question I’d like your guy’s opinion on. Had Dumbledore learned of the Horecruxes earlier and was able to track them down and destroy them while Voldy was “dead” in books 1-3 would his soul move on immediately following the destruction of the last one? Or because it was already tethered when the curse rebounded he is able to stay until killed again? Yes I know there would still be a Harry issue but say Dumbledore decided “for the greater good” and even killed him straight up what would happen?

  • @thewestfire9729
    @thewestfire9729 ปีที่แล้ว

    17:57 Uhhh that’s quite the leap in logic…how do you figure he finds out the date? It would make more sense if Snape finds it out.
    18:13 UM…I’m gonna have to play the logic card here and assume if the Order stages an ambush and Voldemort is going to be the target of said ambush, then Dumbledore is going to be leading the attack. I see Dumbledore and Voldy dueling immediately and Sirius not being involved at all in that duel. He’d likely die the same way he originally did in the book, One bark of laughter and a curse to the heart from Batshit crazy Lestrange.

  • @elihaugen2971
    @elihaugen2971 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super fun. Love the voices and sarcasem.

  • @geraldeuton2419
    @geraldeuton2419 ปีที่แล้ว

    You missed something important... if he can't cast a potronous he can't save duddly

  • @JJJE44
    @JJJE44 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aren’t the Weasley’s still in Egypt by the time of Harry leaving the Dursley’s?

  • @krankarvolund7771
    @krankarvolund7771 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always had the impression that Sirius deliberately made Harry trip with his wand in his hand, because he didn't want him to be alone at night in the streets ^^

  • @glauciaherzer9298
    @glauciaherzer9298 ปีที่แล้ว

    well, harry was in the diagon alley a couple of days alone because the weasleys were in egypt still, no? soo going to the burrow immediately would also not work

  • @joshsideris3885
    @joshsideris3885 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect barty crouch Jr impression

  • @nataliecoleman3847
    @nataliecoleman3847 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see a seven part theory of what if Voldemort chose Nevile

  • @angelacase932
    @angelacase932 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It actually can be any animal dead or alive extinct or existing magic or nomagic however is rarely animals connected like owls

  • @jewlbunny
    @jewlbunny ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if Harry was born a girl? And STILL the chosen one. Lots of thngs would change. Like being named after a flower for one. Like Violet, Rose, or even Magnolia. Her life with the Dursleys would be extremely different than in Cannon. Not to mention her school life.

  • @עדיצורן
    @עדיצורן ปีที่แล้ว

    How was Fleur able to use Polyjuice potion if she is not completely human?

  • @word90
    @word90 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should do one on what if the horcrux in harry took control of him

  • @savikannangara1108
    @savikannangara1108 ปีที่แล้ว

    i live for these what ifs

  • @rdpm2
    @rdpm2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys should do what if Lupin Never became a werewolf

  • @noestestristecass
    @noestestristecass ปีที่แล้ว

    I think they wouldn't go back in time to save buckbeak in this version :( unless hermione thinks to do it anyway for him or dumbledore prompts that

  • @lenshields4598
    @lenshields4598 ปีที่แล้ว

    So like did, lupin see the second potter and Harmonie (time travel) on the map

  • @Knowledge.to_Come
    @Knowledge.to_Come 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if Lilly’s protection had a one time use only?

  • @crazysasha1374
    @crazysasha1374 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmm
    You say Harry believes Sirius when he explains everything to him, but it's still a far fetched story when you're hearing about a lot of aspects of the story for the very first time. I'm not that intimately familiar with the scene where Harry changes his mind about Sirius' innocence but I feel like the fact that the rat previously known to him as Scabbers the Weasley brothers' pet rat turns out to be Peter Petigrew was a pretty convincing and definitve argument. And perhaps that without that element, some doubt still subsides.

    • @crazysasha1374
      @crazysasha1374 ปีที่แล้ว

      Okay, I watched the rest, and the video does cover this, kinda.

  • @melissacarle5968
    @melissacarle5968 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like this video, but one question was unanswered. What would have happened to Buckbeak?

  • @avivolah9401
    @avivolah9401 ปีที่แล้ว

    not true that Voldemort would definitely come back.. Dumbledore suspected about horcruxes since the diary as you know, and if V wouldn't came back until year 6, i think Dumbledore would just destroy all the Horcruxes (and kill Harry, also like in one of your theories) maybe even in year 5 already since they'd have less to deal with... The prophecy didn't state he has to come back, just states neither can live freely until the other is dead... and that condition still applies if V doesn't come back to physical form.

  • @dylantd9189
    @dylantd9189 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Harry, I am your...god...father!" 😅

  • @isabelgee5062
    @isabelgee5062 ปีที่แล้ว

    AO3 is down so this is how I’m getting my fanfic fix for the day

  • @OPSTuT
    @OPSTuT ปีที่แล้ว

    What is Sirius black’s animagus was a snow owl ?

  • @supr33
    @supr33 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you really believe that the trio could easily become Animagi in their third year when it took the Marauders until their fifth year to get it right? It's still a rare and difficult magical feat to achieve and I don't think it's something Hermione could just read about in a book.

  • @maudkoerhuis
    @maudkoerhuis ปีที่แล้ว

    If Harry doesn’t encounter the dementors in his third year, what would his boggart turn into??

  • @limiv5272
    @limiv5272 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    I can't imagine Sirius willingly going to live at Grimmauld Place. He hates the place. I'm sure he could afford to buy himself and Harry a nice place to live with his inheritance.

    • @RGC_animation
      @RGC_animation ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Maybe with Dumbledore not so busy planning everything behind their back he could've spared a couple minute to come and get rid of the painting of Walburga Black and maybe then, Sirus would be more inclined to live there again.

    • @limiv5272
      @limiv5272 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@RGC_animation I always thought the whole portrait issue was ridiculous. If Walburga stuck her portrait to the wall in a way that prevents removing it from the wall, why not just remove the wall? I'm not sure what room was behind it, but worse case scenario I'm sure they could build some kind of acceptable barrier. They can do magic!
      Anyway, it sounded like Sirius had a really bad childhood, seeing as he ran away and never came back. That whole place had to be full of bad memories of him, and those couldn't have anything to do with the portrait as it almost certainly hadn't existed back then. It sounds like only dead people have active portraits.

    • @RGC_animation
      @RGC_animation ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@limiv5272 Yeah, also no matter how powerful of an enchantment she must've cast on it to make it irremovable, it doesn't seem likely that a house full of great wizards and aurors wouldn't be able to remove it. Like in the worst case scenario, just burn the painting.

    • @LizLuvsCupcakes
      @LizLuvsCupcakes 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@RGC_animation so, Sirius spends Third Year remodelling his house- love this for him.
      "There, the wall with my mother's painting is gone... hey, actually, this is kind of nice without the wall. Really opens up the room."

    • @DanBeech-ht7sw
      @DanBeech-ht7sw 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@limiv5272"sorry guv, this is a party wall, innit, I mean, take the wall away and you'll be getting closer than you want to the neighbours. Don't mind me asking, but are they wizards or Muggles? Ah, they don't know this house exists? Tricky, tricky. Gonna cost yer, mate"

  • @lukeprovan6490
    @lukeprovan6490 ปีที่แล้ว +1297

    By far the most impressive part of this channel is the ability to create Harry Potter content YEARS after its conclusion. It is the perpetual motion machine of content. They’ve found the golden goose for TH-camrs.

    • @aariachang24
      @aariachang24 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Oh boy may I show you the "golden" goose that is dragon ball what ifs

    • @lukeprovan6490
      @lukeprovan6490 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@aariachang24 true but at least dragon ball is still constantly releasing new content. Dragon ball super is still ongoing and the franchise still releases a movie every few years. HP is officially dead with no hope of the fantastic beast series continuing

    • @sol_mental
      @sol_mental ปีที่แล้ว +24

      They probably capitalized it better than JK herself on the thing xD Honestly, these guys should be in the next HP world's production.

    • @limiv5272
      @limiv5272 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They're not that special. People are still writing fanfics

    • @Slothi_Deathi
      @Slothi_Deathi ปีที่แล้ว +5

      and even more when the own author tries to destroy her own work