BROKEN RAIL -- Big Problem at Carney Crossing Road
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- The Station Inn...A Better Way to Railfan... www.stationinnp...
Snow Squalls, Sparks and Smoke, and Trains. Signal has been lost and rail snapped on Main Line Track 3 Cresson Pa. Watch a great NS MOW crew replace this rail
in the snow squalls. www.stationinnp...
Also watch A Visit to The Station InnPA in HQ. Enjoy,bert
Was great to see a well run team in action , glad you were able to stand by and catch the action
Ditch lights blinkin', horns a blowin', its a rainin' and a snowin'...Good video...
I love your "A Visit to The Station INN Pa"! It is put together so well! Tom showed it to me when i stayed there in August, and in December. Plus I have it favored on my TH-cam page. Great Job!
Well done!
Thank you, Doug Obert, for capturing this and sharing your video.
The four short blasts at 5:06 sound really great! Video overall is great, too.
that was not a person thermite welding near the end, it was the signal maintainer putting copper wire across the joints to ensure continuity in the rail. I work on BNSF MOW and this is a simple routine rail replacement, the thermite crew probably showed up later to do the actual welding.
I did trainspotting back in Dec. 2012. Stayed at the Cresson Inn, B&B. I sat in my truck one snowy day there at the little white building at Carney's Crossing. I also remember a Casandra's Crossing, nearby. The bridge over the tracks was COLD! I recall it hardly snowed at all in Altoona. BTW, the RR museum in Altoona needed work. Lot of exhibits did not even work.
Wow. I haven't seen a Road-Railer system in ages. Sort of dates the video, but it's a good historical lesson.
Usually when the rail breaks like that; in a ballasted crib, most times a welding gang will show up, trim the defected areas of the rail and weld it together.
@isilder I was a Trackman-Thermite Welder on the Canadian National Railway... familiar with thermite butt-welding continuous welded rail (CWR). My question was to what purpose. Someone suggested it amounted to a tack-weld to provide an added assurance similar to a lock-washer. Cheers!
John Grogan It was the signal maintainer applying his bond wire to the outside of the head of the rail. It is a mini thermite process to do it.
It depends on the railroad company, BNSF in the west US requires that a vest be worn, but most times all the trains know that construction or repair is at that mile marker through radio and dispatchers, so they slow down dramatically for safety and activate all the bells and whistles to be heard by the construction crew.
Thanks. Just trying to share Tom and The Station Inn with others, who may become railfans in the future.
Very interesting! Thanks for posting it.
Great video! Thanks for sharing!
What an beautiful!
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Yes---NS MOW (Maintenance of Way) crew replaced the rail.
IMO, NS has one of the best mow's.
Hard work--Hard weather--Hard location in those mountains......
two conrails connected together. sweet!
GREAT Footage!
Great video. Its a similiar operation on my model railroad. :)
Man nice vid. I still miss the old conrails/conrail qualitys they looked nice with the NS trains, but most of them were either repainted by other railroads or scrapped into another locomotive. The only conrail I know of now is the NS heritage 8098. Atleast Some NS and CSX have some engines with the original Conrail RS3L. All and all nice video
@robertgift Thanks Robert,
The rail was not bent when delivered and placed on the track.
The mow crew replaced it using muscles to fit the slight curve of probadly 1%or 2% at most curve. The way I understand it, they used the gas heater on the rail to "relax" the rail and hold it in the new curved position, and to take the tension off of it so it would not want to straighten back out again..Then they sealed the nuts to the bolts with some thermite, much better than a lock washer. --lol--Doug
Doug Obert No dude, we don't use heat to bend rail to fit the curvature. Rail is very flexible. We only use heat to expand it (or use hydraulic rail pullers) to take out any extra rail that may have been added on a cold day. I've been on crews where we lay rail on high degree curves and the rail bends on it's own and fits in the tie plates just fine.
Same thing happened to me when I was just documenting a new switch that was put in @ the BNSF diomond in Dobbin Tx, and the big 'Billy Bob Boy' ccame up to me in a superviser truck and bashed me hard. Sheesh. I too was on the road crossing.
O that's cool I think I seen those rail maintenance vehicles around Bethlehem PA past the New Jersey Central old train station that now is a cigar smoking place there was about like 6 of them parked and next time I went there they were gone so but thanks for the information
i really enjoyed the video gary
@1jpenev Most rail companies have engines that flash their lights at crossings or railroad workers as a warning. It's usually standard operating procedures to do that or mandatory on some rail companies.
Where was the emergency? Anywho, broken rails disturb track circuits for wayside signals, cab signals, or crossing devices. Usually a malfunction is the indication. Once the offending circuit has been found, you either walk, drive, or highrail that segment and visually inspect. It's not that hard to spot. The repair can be anything between a set of joint bars, or as they did in the video, replace a segment of rail.
Too cold too fast?
I remember the I-79 bridge across the Ohio river north of Pittsburgh cracked due to extreme cold in 1977.
Nicely done. Thank you.
Was that section of rail already bent to match the curve?
Bent where?
I did this work for 9 years in the Canadian Rockies. What the heck was the smoke at timestamp 8:35 all about? I changed out a lot of broken rail in my day, but never saw this before.
As far as I've seen track laying videos, the rails is like spaghetti. They probably first fasten one side of the track, take the crane and drag the other end into the curve. The crossbeams underneath the rail have notches in them wherein the rail exactly fits. So once down, everything sits on the right place. But don't nail me down onto this, it's only from what I've seen on the internet ;)
@XxROBERTSONx A lot. Good for you. Railroads are going to need up and coming young people to replace all us old farts!
About 11 miles west of The Curve.
The Station Inn in Cresson is the place to stay!!!!
woah i never saw tractor trailer trucks running on rails before 0.o
man!! thats a busy place!!
Good job, well done guys ! thank you for this video! I can see there is many usable and good machines and devices for troubleshooting. Btw, how does repair crew find the crack location ? by means of any signal reflectometer ? or just visual inspect ?
Would have been an emergency if it was caught! Like how fast they can work when they want too get out of the cold.....LOL... Looks like a nice place to sit and watch trains.... Hummers, saw about two hundred at Flag IL one day...NW of Rochelle IL Railfan site....
I knew a guy who worked at a scrap-yard. He said they broke rails by using dry ice. They would freeze it, then hit it with a sledge-hammer.
the Railway workers was supposed to be wearing a safety vest on them while working on any working & running lines & they sre supposed to have a safety officer with them as well hand signalling the trains to let the train crews know that that section is cleared of any workers
trainluva Check the date on this video. This was before safety vests became a requirement on US railroads. They had protection on the track they were on. The trains on the other tracks were far enough away to not be a hazard to the workers. Not sure what your complaining about.
The Video "A Visit to The Station InnPA"
posted earlier this year
is also very relative. Enjoy.
@groganzolla1
it is clearly a thermite welding process occurring.
Aluminium plus iron oxide > Iron, Aluminium oxide + heat
don't know why they needed a whole rail section for a tiny gap?
couldn't they size it, drop in a wedge like filler, then do their weld melting on it?
also like how there's always five six guys and 1 or 2 actually working.
I worked as a lineman for ConRail 50 years ago and remember the same thing. couple guys working, the rest telling stories and hanging out. I would like to use the hammer and drive high spikes down and separate ahead to actually make the day go quicker. It was summer and on the rails it must of been 120 degrees. Plus at the jersey shore, the night life was happening,.
looks like they used a CAD welder to weld the track together again cool.
Hi i really enjoyed that is that handy to Horseshoe curve
4:35..LMAO! Looks like a 1920s silent film! Wouldnt it be nice if we could REALLY work that fast? :-D
Hello!
Why they didn't wear visibility vest at work, especially on this very busy line? This would be a great irresponsibility on my working place
sincerely
Robert from Hungary
probably a signal malfunction picked it up or inspector. you never know, it could have been a railfan. it has happened.
Hot rail! Watch the move!
A day in the life of Signals and MOW departments.
yea good work
They are available at a lot of places.Radio Shack has OK models, better ones out there.I have an older Yaesu TF60 FM transceiver,(much better--google it) with magnet mount antenna--which is great. Doug
I remember getting paid $3.83/hour for this work in 1972.
Jeez how many zip files did you use????????????
Great video. My heart is with the blue collar types who do the hard jobs like this and then fade into the backdrop until the next time. How did they weld that? It didn't look like thermit.
@trainluva How do you know what the safety rules regarding vests are for this railroad? How do you know there wasn't a "safety officer" or "foreman" or whatever the terminology on site?
This is why I despise a certain small portion of railfans out there. They see a video or receive a tiny bit of information and the next thing you know they are know-it-all second guessers.
How did they find out about this broken rail in the first place?
Did Norfolk Southern fix that or did someone else cause I know most rail lines in Pennsylvania are owned or ran by Norfolk Southern
Former Pennsy trackage that has had the fourth track removed?
Hi RDG484, I saw new rail? plates inbetween the track three when I was just up there--from Carneys-not sure how far west they went. Maybe swooner than later??What do ya exactly mean no superelevation?? Doug
How did the crew bend the rail to conform to the curve of the track?
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@MrBNSFconductor
I originally titled it Occurance at CC.
No emergency--but "Yellow alert?"--lol
if this was a CSX operation they would take about a month to fix the issue and still run trains on it.
why do they flash their lights like that?
No hi viz vests as operational standards?
+Hermes Trismegistus Back in the old days they didn't wear the bright colors.
Reason being was that MOST people had common sense.
Not so anymore!! Have to protect the STUPID!!
+Bob Smith
I'd say it cuts both ways.
Sure, it protects the stupid.
But, it also protects smart people when a stupid person's not looking where they're going!
Bob Smith Not sure what your comment is supposed to mean. Railroaders are very highly trained, so how does wearing a high visibility vest help someone from doing something stupid? My understanding is the reason we had to wear vests is so we became more visible to train crews so they might start sounding their horn earlier. Even with all the protection in place, and all the training, people do make mistakes. It doesn't mean they're stupid. It's a very unforgiving environment. Did you railroad? If so, why do you think railroaders now are stupid? What are you comparing them to? I'd say right now, the average railroader is more aware than they ever were about safety at any time in history.
Why was the inside rail cut also?
sd50 pusher set?
They go by my house all the time.
I know I'm not in the rail industry but why 7 or so people to fix one problem? To me it looked they were taking turns trying to look busy...
Daniel Raith union..🤣
Daniel Raith They need look outs to watch the look outs,LOL.
Rail contracts in the cold. Next summer a sun kink?
Robert Gift They keep track of any rail added and cut it out as soon as they can. Usually when they weld out the joints, the welder will cut and pull the rail, then weld it.
The r.r. is all about safety 1st
they probably could've used about 4 more people
How come that this is a triple track line and not electrified?
no video
bahah green pants
to many workers you people need hunter harison working for you
We change rail in half of hour too slow UP all the way
Well over staffed here