I know I'm from the UK and I like steam engines and diesels that travel all over England Wales Scotland but it is great to see steam and diesel loco's from America now and again in TH-cam videos. I'm not very knowledgeable about different American diesel loco's past and present design's apart from that i do like different companies liveries on them like Union Pacific and Amtrak also the black and white livery on these ones in this video. R.I.P you amazing machines
Cool, thanks for watching! For reference, the locomotives being scrapped here date from the late 1960s/very early 1970s, so they had a pretty good service life.
Just like a tornado siren graveyard. broken and abandoned units, some partially dissassembled; some parts lying around, surrounded by lot's of equipment.
I caught a D8-40C on a stack train passing by Linwood Yard last November in my latest upload. It would be interesting to know if it was one of the ones that was shipped up to Cresson.
Boy I'm surprised they're scrapping the highhoods, since it seems like NS is the class power collector, but I guess they said it was R.I.P. time for them, really is sad but I guess it's to make way for more Catapillar and newer EMD power, ohh well I guess we'll just have to by models of those highhoods. Nice catches
yes, it's sad to see those hi-hoods being dismantled. especially when you consider that everyone says SAFETY FIRST!!! hi-hoods are safer than chopped noses! just ask anyone who's had a too close encounter.
For them to have served 40+ years in ordinary service on a Class 1 is pretty remarkable. Looks like the Salvage company is taking their time in cutting them up in order to recover valuable parts that are still in demand and selling for a good price.
They are long gone now. Last time I visited the order of the day was Dash 8s and the old SD90MAC cabs from the SD70ACu rebuild program. It seemed odd to see that much UP yellow gathered so far away from its home territory.
FastFlyingVirginian: but they could have sold them off to smaller railroads that probably would be more than happy to give these emds a new home. NS just lost some potential profit here I think.
There's so many Dash 2-era SDs available on the market that there is less demand for the non-Dash-2 units like these. Their money as of late has been in converting the Dash 9s to AC (starting to do the same for the SD70s as well) and selling off the portion of the switcher and Geep fleets they aren't rebuilding.
I suspect that with the Dash 2 models already in the used/lease market, the non-Dash 2 models like these look less attractive, when someone could simply pick up a Dash 2 and not have to worry about spending money on upgrading the electrics and such.
g bridgman Not this one, they are purely into scrapping/parting them out. I've heard other folks have had success in making offers on the horns and numberboards and such though.
MultiSuperman800 Thanks! The neat thing about junkyards like this is the variety. If I have the chance this summer, I might swing by again to see what they'll be scrapping next.
High hoods were fine for sure, you just can't find many roads these days that feel like keeping them that way. The units set up for long-hood forward running could have been changed if NS had wanted to rebuild them. They did just that when they rebuilt SD60s into SD60Es - any ex-SOU units were converted to short hood forward. By the same token, they also rebuilt many high-hood Geeps where the high short hood was swapped for a low nose. I think that with a glut of Dash 2 units available secondhand, no one was purchasing non-Dash 2 units like these and NS simply didn't see any value in rebuilding them versus tapping the secondhand market, like they did when they purchased some ex-Helm Leasing SD40-2s later on.
you may want to know what,,, CNO&TP refers to on former southern locos. Cincinnati New Orleans & Texas Pacific. CNO&TP leases the line from the city of cincinnati owned cincinnati southern. the city of cincinnati ownership of the line is the only example in the USA of a city owned long distance rail line.
It's not. The first part of the video was at Cresson Steel, checking out scrapped locomotives. The second part was at the Juniata Shops in downtown Altoona - the 6912 had just been completed and was presumably awaiting some final touches before being put into service.
The old Southern 5-chime horns have a nice sound, I forget the model they used (Nathan M5?). John Pechulis Media has a 'Railfanning The Appalachian Region' series (3 volumes so far) that has a ton of late SOU and early NS footage from the late-70s and early 80s with many of these locomotives in action - and many, many horn sounds to go with it.
+trainbrain 4vrs The Juniata Shops do a lot of contract work in addition to maintaining the NS fleet, so it is not uncommon to see foreign or lease power visiting for one type of work or another.
+FECSD70M2 PRODUCTIONS Some of the NS SD40-2s are actually rebuilt SD40s that started life working for the PRR and then the PC. The GP38s have been used as fodder for the road slug program, and I believe the GP38-2s have been rebuilt into GP38-3s or will be in the near future. Beyond that, I'm not sure. AGS is the reporting mark for Alabama Great Southern, which was a longtime Southern Railway subsidiary.
The SD40s seen here are all gone, but the yard is always getting new things to scrap. On my last couple of visits to Cresson, it was full of conventional-cab Dash 8s and unwanted SD90MAC cabs from the units being converted to SD70ACus. There were also 3 parts-source F units that were brought there from the Juniata Shops after they had outlived their usefulness.
Agreed. The current market has way too many newer Dash 2 units available to justify keeping the older non-Dash 2 types around. At least NS had the foresight to preserve SOU 3170 and N&W 1580 (the first SD40s for their respective roads). Speaking of which, I've seen the 1580 lurking around the shops in Altoona, I wonder how that project is going?
Peru and Colombia saved a lot of Dash8 40Bs from the torch.....America Latina logistica saved some NS SD40-2s as well....but now with the ES43BBi in mass I don't know if the SD40-2 models are still around...
I remember seeing those high hoods cruising by when I was younger, growing up here in Pennsylvania. Such a cool locomotive.
Those highhoods will be missed :'(
That's why I have a model train replicas of SD40 High hoods. Recently, I got an Athearn model of NS Sd40 High Hood since I miss them in real life.
I wish the Wheeling and Lake Erie would have bought them, the own a few High nose engines. Those 40-2s would look good in black and orange.
I see them ever day next to their yard going to Akron Ohio on interstate 76 .just saw theirs yesterday.
I'm speechless, soooo sad.
This just makes me sad, high hoods are my favorite 8 (
I know I'm from the UK and I like steam engines and diesels that travel all over England Wales Scotland but it is great to see steam and diesel loco's from America now and again in TH-cam videos. I'm not very knowledgeable about different American diesel loco's past and present design's apart from that i do like different companies liveries on them like Union Pacific and Amtrak also the black and white livery on these ones in this video. R.I.P you amazing machines
Cool, thanks for watching! For reference, the locomotives being scrapped here date from the late 1960s/very early 1970s, so they had a pretty good service life.
Just like a tornado siren graveyard. broken and abandoned units, some partially dissassembled; some parts lying around, surrounded by lot's of equipment.
So sad :(
Awesome! Loved the NS graveyard.
yeah, in Virginia ns cries "we don't have enough power" (engines)!
There was more then that before. They have cut up a whole bunch more before those had arrived.
Very good video, very somber and it sounded like a Detroit running in the background.
Where those SD40s are in the video now sits a line of GE D8-40C locomotives meeting the same fate.
I caught a D8-40C on a stack train passing by Linwood Yard last November in my latest upload. It would be interesting to know if it was one of the ones that was shipped up to Cresson.
Boy I'm surprised they're scrapping the highhoods, since it seems like NS is the class power collector, but I guess they said it was R.I.P. time for them, really is sad but I guess it's to make way for more Catapillar and newer EMD power, ohh well I guess we'll just have to by models of those highhoods. Nice catches
yes, it's sad to see those hi-hoods being dismantled. especially when you consider that everyone says SAFETY FIRST!!! hi-hoods are safer than chopped noses! just ask anyone who's had a too close encounter.
For them to have served 40+ years in ordinary service on a Class 1 is pretty remarkable. Looks like the Salvage company is taking their time in cutting them up in order to recover valuable parts that are still in demand and selling for a good price.
They are long gone now. Last time I visited the order of the day was Dash 8s and the old SD90MAC cabs from the SD70ACu rebuild program. It seemed odd to see that much UP yellow gathered so far away from its home territory.
Can't wait to do this again next summer!
Extremely sad to see al these SD40 like that... nice video anyway!
seems to be the same ALL is doing as well with the SD40-2s from CP-KCS-NS and the SD40T-2s....but now I see MRS reactivated some SD40-2s.
It’s 2018 now. I wonder if Norfolk Southern is regretting what they did to these beautiful engines.
With all of the AC-traction rebuilds they're cranking out, I don't think they miss them. ;)
FastFlyingVirginian: but they could have sold them off to smaller railroads that probably would be more than happy to give these emds a new home. NS just lost some potential profit here I think.
There's so many Dash 2-era SDs available on the market that there is less demand for the non-Dash-2 units like these. Their money as of late has been in converting the Dash 9s to AC (starting to do the same for the SD70s as well) and selling off the portion of the switcher and Geep fleets they aren't rebuilding.
Regardless I would still like to see the, in service if I had the money I would buy all of them and build a railroad park for them to operate in.
Nice Vid i saw engine number 999 what is that
Sad to see those locos readu for the scrap pile. :( How much do ya think theyd want for a headlight, bell, etc?
there goes all the high hoods
They should have sold them off to Pan Am Railways. They would have bought them
With so many more modern Dash 2 units available on the market these days, it probably wouldn't have been a good value even to Pan Am.
I wonder what's the cost of a decommissioned locomotive
Why did time seem to go quickly at the glue factory?
Not as sad as seeing steam locomotives scrapped, but still too bad. Hard to believe there isn't any other use for these locomotives.
I suspect that with the Dash 2 models already in the used/lease market, the non-Dash 2 models like these look less attractive, when someone could simply pick up a Dash 2 and not have to worry about spending money on upgrading the electrics and such.
Does the scrap yard keep any of these locomotives in running condition possibly for resale or use as yard goats?
g bridgman Not this one, they are purely into scrapping/parting them out. I've heard other folks have had success in making offers on the horns and numberboards and such though.
Alabama Great Southern - RIP
Y is there a UP at 4:41?
Ex-UP, note the NS-style numbers stenciled on the tail. That was one of the SD60s NS purchased as fodder for the SD60E rebuild program.
Some were sold to Canadian National.
I don't see any SDs on the roster that indicate they came from NS. Are you thinking of the blue C40-8Ws?
Can anyone explain why a GP40MC from the MBTA is this far west (4:20)
Either major maintenance or paint work. The Juniata Shops can provide both.
That makes sense.
MBTA wouldn't send stuff down from Boston unless they either sold it, or its a complete wreck
Nice Video.
MultiSuperman800 Thanks! The neat thing about junkyards like this is the variety. If I have the chance this summer, I might swing by again to see what they'll be scrapping next.
Your Welcome.
The problem was the long nose lead. The high hoods were fine.
High hoods were fine for sure, you just can't find many roads these days that feel like keeping them that way. The units set up for long-hood forward running could have been changed if NS had wanted to rebuild them. They did just that when they rebuilt SD60s into SD60Es - any ex-SOU units were converted to short hood forward. By the same token, they also rebuilt many high-hood Geeps where the high short hood was swapped for a low nose. I think that with a glut of Dash 2 units available secondhand, no one was purchasing non-Dash 2 units like these and NS simply didn't see any value in rebuilding them versus tapping the secondhand market, like they did when they purchased some ex-Helm Leasing SD40-2s later on.
On NS SD40 number 3192 what part of Northfolk Southern heritage is AGS ?
Alabama Great Southern, a Southern Railway predecessor absorbed in 1969.
you may want to know what,,,
CNO&TP refers to on former southern locos.
Cincinnati New Orleans & Texas Pacific.
CNO&TP leases the line from the city of cincinnati owned cincinnati southern.
the city of cincinnati ownership of the line is the only example in the USA of a city owned long distance rail line.
Sad to see. :(
Locomotive Horror Video
0:01 - 3:34
And why is 6912 being junked? The 69e r really new
It's not. The first part of the video was at Cresson Steel, checking out scrapped locomotives. The second part was at the Juniata Shops in downtown Altoona - the 6912 had just been completed and was presumably awaiting some final touches before being put into service.
***** oh cuz i was gonna say thats pretty new, can u buy horns off there engines
i have one of the horns off of one i got it in oct of 2012
The old Southern 5-chime horns have a nice sound, I forget the model they used (Nathan M5?). John Pechulis Media has a 'Railfanning The Appalachian Region' series (3 volumes so far) that has a ton of late SOU and early NS footage from the late-70s and early 80s with many of these locomotives in action - and many, many horn sounds to go with it.
Why is there an T gp40mc there
+trainbrain 4vrs The Juniata Shops do a lot of contract work in addition to maintaining the NS fleet, so it is not uncommon to see foreign or lease power visiting for one type of work or another.
how many localmotives were there
Not the GP38-2 High hoods and other stuff!!!!!!! D:
did the ppl at cresson steel bother u.
#bringhihoodsback
Are there LITERALLY still ay old Penn Central engines still in the roster? Also what's AGS?
+FECSD70M2 PRODUCTIONS Some of the NS SD40-2s are actually rebuilt SD40s that started life working for the PRR and then the PC. The GP38s have been used as fodder for the road slug program, and I believe the GP38-2s have been rebuilt into GP38-3s or will be in the near future. Beyond that, I'm not sure. AGS is the reporting mark for Alabama Great Southern, which was a longtime Southern Railway subsidiary.
+FastFlyingVirginian Oh,thanks!
Alabama Great Southern
i have now sub this channel,are all those locos gone or some still there?
The SD40s seen here are all gone, but the yard is always getting new things to scrap. On my last couple of visits to Cresson, it was full of conventional-cab Dash 8s and unwanted SD90MAC cabs from the units being converted to SD70ACus. There were also 3 parts-source F units that were brought there from the Juniata Shops after they had outlived their usefulness.
well it could be worse, this could be cockroach2008 scrapping the nkp 765, or 756 whatever its number was
una lástima que se abandone tantas locomotoras Y la reemplazan por trenes Eléctricos PERO ESAS LOCOMOTORAS PUEDEN SER PARA
SOMETIMES IT'S JUST BEST TO SELL THEM FOR SCRAP.
Agreed. The current market has way too many newer Dash 2 units available to justify keeping the older non-Dash 2 types around. At least NS had the foresight to preserve SOU 3170 and N&W 1580 (the first SD40s for their respective roads). Speaking of which, I've seen the 1580 lurking around the shops in Altoona, I wonder how that project is going?
nice
Are all those locomotives scrapped
Very likely, as this was filmed 4 years ago. The same scrapper has been working on a batch of old GE Dash 8s that were sent up several months ago.
How about the B32-8
I think they're all gone. The last time I saw one was last November, and a month or two later I was seeing pictures of them being cut up.
Peru and Colombia saved a lot of Dash8 40Bs from the torch.....America Latina logistica saved some NS SD40-2s as well....but now with the ES43BBi in mass I don't know if the SD40-2 models are still around...
6:47 Devil
tenés de carga
4:29 dafuq was that purple and silver engine doing there
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