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- Which 6.0 powerstroke year is best? In this video we are going to talk about what Powerstroke year is best to buy. The 6.0 powerstroke has been plagued with many issues. Now I have heard numerous things online about which year is best, but the truth is that many of the "fixes" ended up initially causing more issues before there were upgraded parts that eventually fixed the "fixes" As for engines there are 03-early 04, and in late 04 there were engine changes to the newer designs. there were small upgrades made throughout the engines productions like I talk about in the video. (dowel pins) We have both engine types on the truck. We have both 6.0 Powerstrokes on the channel with a built early 6.0 powerstrokes. The other truck is a late 04 ford 6.0 powerstroke. The 6.0 Powerstroke issues can all be fixed regardless of year. It really depends on which 6.0 powerstroke problems you want to fix really. The high pressure oil leaks. The issues with 6.0 powerstroke are different in each early and late.
So which 6.0 powerstroke year is best? That is up to you to decide.
The ford 6.0 powerstroke is a great engine to have. Once you have a built 6.0 powerstroke you will change your mind about the ford 6.0 powerstroke! what 6.0 powerstroke issues have you had? Like stated all of the 6.0 powerstroke problems are easy to fix.
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I'm gonna say my 2007 is the best haha. Cause it is mine
And it's a lariat outlaw.
I know all about loving your own truck man I am guilty of it myself
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I have an early 04 with 467,983.06 miles that HAS NOT BEEN BULLETPROOFED!!! Transmission went out in last month. Just bought an 06 and upgrading oil system now. Love my 6.0’s!!!!
What are you doing to the oil system?
thats amazing 😮i have one thats cherry 🍒 mint bro .Did u just keep up the maintenance or what not on it to get that many miles from urs i would be soo happy😅😅
I gotta 07 F350 SRW 190k miles. Best truck I've ever had. Did things like coolant filter, blue spring, egr delete. Left tuning stock for reliability and it keeps going.
So 2005 to 2007 it is. I agree.
Itsa Mea yep, definitely those years
I missed this comment lol. From just an engine stand point indent feel there is a reason to buy one over the other but the 05 plus for the coil springs all day
@@six0bros and I believe the brakes are better on the 05-07 trucks too.
They are larger breaks
@@six0bros The 05-07 has a better cast iron hpop compared to the failure prone aluminum bodied 03-04 hpop's. The 05-07 also has a better high pressure oil rail system. I converted my (sold) 2004 E350 6.0 van to the upgraded system when I bulletproofed it. My current truck is a 2005 F-250 extended cab short box FX4.
But I hope that all of us 6.0 Powerstroke guys can realize that even through they're all expensive garbage we still love them!!
I just spent about 14k getting my lb7 all sorted and you'll have to do the same on the 6.0 to get it reliable.
@@MrMystang92 14k to make a 6.0 reliable is pretty high. at 14k you have one bad ass 6.0 as I am sure you have one bad ass lb7
@@six0bros I went crazy on my bulletproof and purchased all new oem injectors, a new turbo, bed plate seal, ficm, heads with goodies, and bulletproof external liquid to liquid oil cooler and I was under $10k installed (lots of extras not mentioned).
@@andrewb9708 that's awesome man. You're gonna love it more than ever
@@six0bros I do love it! I bulletproofed it at 108,000 miles and it's currently at 111,367. I keep it garaged and in showroom condition. There's something unique about the 6.0, it has a high-strung personality and loves to be pushed.
I think the 06-07 are the 2 best years. I love my 06, it’s been great. 👍
I could be wrong but I do think some of the updated parts started coming out I think in late 06
6.0 Bros I’m pretty sure you’re right. I know the big misconception is they got stronger head bolts which is not true. Anyway great channel man!
Thanks I appreciate it very much. By the way I love the name. Ron Burgundy lol
I got 2006 model with 300000 miles on it awesome truck Still run like new Only bad thing is takes forever to warm up
Thats awesome man. Thats a good mileage out of any engine in my book
Most Powerstroke mechanics say 05-07 are the best years for the 6.0. Not only is the truck body and suspension modern, the engine is slightly different to fix the issues the 03-04 Powerstrokes had. A Bulletproofed or completely stock 05-07 6.0 is actually a good truck.
Suspension is truly the only mechanical reason to buy an 05 and up 6.0. Now I do prefer the newer oil rails, but later years are more likely to leak on the high pressure oil system than early years. The pump is more reliable. People do tend to state they're more reliable but they have little to nothing to back it up
I have a 2006 6.0 with 320k on the clock, don’t believe it’s Been bulletprooffed. Last owned did say they had the heads redone with APR Bolts, not studs, but she’s still going strong
Absolutely awesome shout out to us!!!! I’m definitely going to be returning the favor on video. Great info also!!!! I’m going to have to refer customers to watch this video. Great sum up.
Man that's awesome thank you! That's a huge compliment coming from you! Not many people have your type of knowledge on these trucks! Seriously thank you very much man.
2005 F250 King Ranch - Engine build Dec 2005. Currently at 210K. I purchased at 177K - 5 years ago and have installed the following over the past 5 years: OEM remanufactured transmission and torque converter-$3700 (ford dealership parts & labor) , upgraded oil cooler and EGR delete-$1800 (parts & labor local diesel shop) all 4 new rotors, calipers, breaks pads-$cant remember (Amazon). Blue spring mod-$55, Y pipe-$150, 8 OEM motorcraft injectors-$1400, fuel rail parts-$120, OEM turbo-$720, (A buddy and I knocked out injectors, y pipe, turbo, I paid him $700) high flow muffler-$150, cat delete-$60, Matt from gearhead 8K non studded tow tune-$60, 180amp alternator-$150, 58V ficm-$250, 2 batteries 750CC-$200, SCT tuner-$400. Radiator - $210, exhaust manifold gaskets- $550 installed, 7.3 fan clutch mod- - $800 installed, Bilstein shocks -$cant remember, aftermarket touchscreen radio with 4 new speakers and back up camera. I paid $14000 5 years ago for the truck and have put $14000 in it over the last 5 years. FYI
Damn, Never going to get that back. Better plan on getting buried in it! LOL
Hi amigo I have the same truck 2005 king Ranch F250
I spend $8. K on repairs and six months later truck stated giving me problems I'm not planning to fix it anymore , I'm thinking to sell it for Chip
Ford trucks no bueno!
@andreslugo8694 what's your truck doing and what did you have done prior?
I just picked up an 05 Excursion with the 6.0 Powerstroke! Loving it so far.
That's great man. Hope it treats you well
Definitely would love to see a video on why 6.0 is prone to ear gasket filter ! Would love to know the details behind that from someone who is not biased against them like most people
I'll put it on my list to make man. As long as you guys still enjoy these more informative videos as I continue to recover I'll keep making them
I have an 07. Love it. Couple people I know that are diesel techs told me I got the better year out of all of them. Did stand pipes and dummy plugs in August, stc fitting and egr delete in December. Also switched to a cat elc1 rated coolant and added a coolant bypass filter.
I think where the real improvements came are in the suspension
I definitely do like the way it rides.
I cant wait to swap to an 05 front suspension
I love my 06 power stroke! The thing roals coal and is a awesome farm truck!
lots of love for the 6.0 on this channel
@@six0bros awesome
I had an early 04 F-350 with the 6.0 and it had 387k on it when I sold it
Just a couple of miles huh lol. That's awesome almost 400k on it.
My 04 f350 6.0 powerstroke has 789,667 and it has a few problems here and there but if you take care of it, it will take care of you....how was urs and why did you sell it?
@@slerbster6049 mine was a great truck and I miss it
I only traded it in for a 6.7 for the power and some luxury things
@@slerbster6049 789k? Total bs😂
I have seen some trucks pretty high up there. I agree this would be an extreme example but you hear about other truxks doing it too
I have 7 of these and one 7.3.. I've found the earlier 6.0's have a similar style oil feed system and never really fails.. not one of our early ones have failed including the 7.3. EVERY later year 6.0 we have.. have ALL had the o rings fail.. the modular stand pipes was a TERRIBLE idea. Built a few blocks up using the older style stand pipes and absolutely no issues. 👍🏼 everything deleted and external oil coolers and filters etc etc etc
I have an early style 6.0 powerstroke. I love the truck and the oil system tends to not fail. The pumps do but they have since updated the housing to typically not be an issue anymore. That said I would love to have the later style rails as those trucks when working correctly tend to just run smoother than the early styles, and for the most part the updated parts to fix the issues seem to be working pretty well.
I just picked up a mid 03 and it's turning out to be a decent truck, but definitely expensive compared to my previous Cummins. It's had previous warranty work done to it by Ford a few years ago(new heads, head gaskets, EGR cooler, oil cooler, HPOP, new turbo, and a few other parts) So far I've done an EGR delete, upgraded oil cooler with viton seals throughout, new fuel/oil caps, motorcraft filters, fresh fluids, coolant filter, coolant cap, fleet belt, new pulleys, tensioner, 7.3 fan clutch, aluminum radiator, new hoses, cold air intake, cometic valve cover gaskets, and fuel bowl seals w/regulator and blue spring upgrade. It currently has a deleted cat and muffler, but I will eventually do a full 4" straight pipe exhaust. I won't ever tune it as I want it to live a long, happy, stress-free life. Thanks for the great information and I'm definitely subscribed!
Thanks man! Hope you love the new truck
How’s the truck held up?
@dylanpadilla5787 the white truck made 180k of pretty hard use overall and a head cracked. Did a build where the cam I put in caused valve to piston contact and caused major issues. Did another build and seeing how that goes, but overall great engines especially for the pretty hard use with racing and dynos plus testing for videos
I love my 03 P-stroke....at 200k i just installed a sinister oil/coolant bypass kit. I plan on keeping it for awhile😊
You still got it? I got a 05 and I’m trying to decide what to do with it.... I’m at 215k and it’s my everyday driver and work truck. I’m trying to decide if I should keep it or sell it.
Man if it is running good I would just keep going. Just my opinion
6.0 Bros it runs fine but it does have a rockerbox gasket leak. Unfortunately to repair that, the head studs have to come out (AKA be replaced).
That sucks how bad is the leak
6.0 Bros it’s getting kinda bad now. It’s leaving a small puddle everytime I park. I don’t seem to be missing a noticeable amount of oil thought when I change it. I just did it a few days ago and the oil level was normal before the change.
05 power stroke here. Been a great truck. Bigger turbo,4” exhaust , egr delete and a tune, I keep up with all maintenance..... again maintenance is the key...
Maintenance is the most important thing on these trucks. They are still overall my favorite engine
My 06 I’m glad I got the best year
Lol I mean nothing to do with the engine but 05-07 is one of the best looking trucks every built
I have a first year 2003 6.0 and it's all good so running good still.
Same here early 04(came with 03 engines)
04 f250 6.0 170k miles on it bought used and great diesel mileage
I really think the 6.0 is the most underrated diesel out there
I just bought a 2005 F250 so far i love it i have to put a heater core in it but other than that it's been awsome no blow by it o ly has 104,000 miles on it
Such low miles man. That is awesome. A heater core is common in these unfortunately.
I tried to play a drinking game to where you said "across the board" I took a drink. I died
brian clay hahaha
I did a complete bullet proofing of my 2004 F-350 6.0 truck through powerstroke specialty, those guys are amazing and took care of my truck, they also help me from Georgia if I have any issues.
I have heard good things. I haven't had any experience with them though
@@six0bros They are great and Bill and Scott over their are great guys. They have saved me thousands when I was having issues, they said explain what's going on in the truck and instantly told me what was wrong and I was able to fix the issues.
That's great to hear. It's rare to find good shops today. I know there are a handful out there but it can he rare
@@six0bros My fuel tank was flaking inside and that caused my truck to die, my guys at Power stroke specialty knew instantly what was wrong over the phone. I had went to this big diesel shop near me and they want $500 for diagnostics and when I told them what it was they wanted $3200 for the repair. Me and my cousin dropped the tank and replaced the sending unit while we were there and cleaned out the system all in 4hrs for about $600. Go to guys that specialize in your specific vehicles.
I had an 2004 and put 289,000 miles on it, no issues. I did egr delete.
I currently have a 2007, that I've had for 10 years. I got it with 39k miles. I immediately did egr delete, head studs, new injectors, new fuel pump.
Later I did KC stage 1.5 turbo, bpd ficm , csf 6028 intercooler, upgraded push rods, upgraded boots. Schaeffer's ultra 10w30 SynShield in the engine, Amsoil in trans, transfer case, differentials. Detroit lockers, 4:10 gears
I pull a 19k pound 5th wheel. 297k Trouble free miles thus far. Not one single mechanical issue.
I change oil ever 200 hours, fuel filters every 500 hours.
6.0 is very very reliable engine. It will pull heavy loads up the mountain, its slow but it will get the job done.
Once this breaks, ill buy a new
F-450 6.7 powerstroke
I definitely love my 6.0 and my 6.7 I am gonna do a review comparing them towing in the near future. Both great engines.
Currently at 273k miles dailying a sct 85hp street tune on stock headbolts. Take care of these trucks and they’ll take care of you
nice man. any major issues along the way? I got to 180k before a cracked head which was mostly just a 40 hp tow tune.
I love the late models - but mainly just for the 20" factory wheels you can get. I took advantage of the misinformation about the early ones. Got a killer deal on an 03, bought some used 06 20" wheels, put studs, new HPOP, oil cooler and a mild tune. More planned, but it's been a great truck.
Did you need to run spacers on those wheels?
@@six0bros Yepp, got some 2" steel spacers on there to compensate for the different offset of the 05+.
There are several differences in the 18mm and 20mm heads. There were 4 casting revisions to the 18mm heads and one final revision where it received the 20mm heads also known as commonized heads. The 20mm has a thicker deck over bore which substantially reduced cracking they are known for. They also relocated the injector hold down slightly to again reduce the amount of cracking from the injector cup areas. A 20mm casted head is a superior design. To me the best is a 03’ motor with 20mm converted heads using the older rocker box and more reliable log style HPO setup.
20mm heads still are pretty common for issues overall. for factory heads if someone had the valve seat machined out and had proper pressed in valve seats though I would think that is a big upgrade, along with O ring heads. If there wasnt solid aftermarket options I would agree though except I would want the valve job done still.
I have a 06 f350. Got it used not too long ago. 165k and I’m saving to bulletproof and upgrade. Been watching a ton of videos when I came across this channel. Thanks for the content. I’d love to see more towing videos cuz that’s why I purchased mine. Which parts are important to buy from bulletproof diesel and which ones can I get by with factory? So far from bulletproof it sound like the oil cooler and ficm are necessities? Thanks for the in depth content bro
I have some videos towing and talking about my setup. I am actually going to be talking about towing specific mods in the near future on my brothers truck. I want to say I do not feel that the bpd products are the only great option out there. Maybe I'll go a ficm video in the near future talking about options. In the meantime consider ficmrepair.com
6.0 Bros right on. I’ve seen a number of your videos and you’ve got a subscriber out of me. Please explain what you mean about bpd parts? If there are ways around that do tell. Thx for responding
Bpd has excellent parts do not get me wrong. However I am a big fan of options. I think competition helps keep everyone working hard to be the best. So while bpd (bullet proof diesel) has great stuff there are also other companies doing great work as well. Ficmrepair.com is one of those guys for ficms. My brother who has the grey truck on the channel he has bpd relocation kit for the oil cooler while I have decided to keep it in the factory location.
6.0 Bros gotcha. So you have a factory ford oil cooler? What about the water pump?
The 06 is what I have and it’s the best! Great farm truck!
They really are great all around trucks.
6.0 Bros yeah! They are
I have a January 2003 f250 6.0 with 342,XXX miles completely stock, it hasn't had head gaskets, a turbo, egr. It's entirely factory and I drive it every day still getting 18-20 mpg.
That's great
I love my 06 f250 Harley Davidson 4x4 it's my dream truck got for 10600 I get complaints all the Time and it turns heads I get 6.7 owners tell me they love my truck I think 05 to 07 Harley Davidson and king ranch are the best looking and I do like the 07 outlaws the red interior kinda grew on me great video man glad to see ur healed up too I love the mentioning of Anthony and superduty service
Our year trucks have a I think a timeless look to them, and anthony does great work he deserves a shout out for it
@@six0bros yep you can buy them cheap and restore them if you want too and be at max 30k with buying the truck idk why in the world people go spend 60k to 90k for these new truck when a 6.0 powerstroke can do everything you want it too
The 6.0 is awesome. However I can understand wanting a new truck. There will always be a 6.0 on this channel though
FORD4LIFE73 I still prefer he Lariat edition. Personal preference I guess
@@BrandonS55 hey nothing wrong with that I just wish they did an all black lariat that would have been sweet
As a proud 6.0 power stroke owner i have barely any problems with it
I bought my truck 8 years old then had an addition 7 years without issue. Mine was an early 04 so it was sold in 03. Started my build when a cylinder head cracked and have daily driven this thing for another year except now it turns out some pretty good power
Where do you live I'll come buy them.
The early, early 2003 had an EGR cooler from Garret that is the same design as bulletproof diesel. It doesn't really have failure problems.
@@warrenborders595 I have that in my truck. The 03 and early 04 have that one. Nit many people realize that good catch man
Interesting I know this is old but have to reply, My 03/03 has been rock solid had it 9 years 1- HPOP and 1 injector, 204K Miles, SCT Tuned and original heads and Trans. Would like a newer tuck but I can't make myself buy 6.7 still not a fan.
I love my 6.7 powerstroke! But I also really love my 6.0. I can say my 6.0 makes me happy and I dont need the 6.7 but I want to go a little faster on my 6.0 so the 6.7 was a good choice. My 6.0 has been incredibly reliable. A great truck honestly
My 01/03 has 342k with no work being done and still going strong. Being a first month truck still going today it must have been built on a Wednesday lol.
Lol built on Wednesday. That's awesome though I made it to 180k without major repair
"and we're starting right now but first...", we're not really starting until I plug...😂😂😂
Lol hey gotta try and grow somehow. Also I do try and always keep that stuff short
If you leave the 6.0 stock and use it as it is intended to do so....such as tow hauling working....not racing, then the 6.0 is reliable. I have a bone stock 6.0 2003 model, replaced high pressure oil pump and icp sensor, still running like a champ. If you modify a Glock, expect failures, call Glock and tell them you modified it, they will respond " leave it the fuck alone and it will be reliable asshole"!
What is your average mpg?
First I didn't see this message.... second you're just wrong head gaskets still go. Later styles have hpo leaks although ford has released parts that fix this for the most part. If you're racing with one of these they eventually break no other way. I don't get what your message is about man. It's not even what the video is really about.
Not sure if you mean the other guy or me but my best mileage on a trip was 23.5 mpg completely factory other than 4 inch turbo back exhaust. Heavily modified and tuned driving around town on 35s I got 17 or something. So I think that setup would have done around 22ish on the highway
“I read that the 2003 6.0 - had to be built with many of the ‘Heavy Duty’ components from the 7.3 so it could be marketed earlier, (before International could ‘fully’ complete the new 6.0 engine!!”). The 2004 was (supposedly) built with the newly engineered ‘Sub Par’ engine parts that had no extended testing.
Tommy C so the 03 is the most durable?
I have not heard this before. However I do not believe it to be true since virtually no parts carry over into the 6.0 from the 7.3. Different rods and pistons, block heads pretty much everything is completely different
“I was looking up the oil cooler (long ago) and saw that someone wrote that; the 2003 6.0 may have had a heavier unit!” - larger channels! (I don’t recall if the source was someone with ‘inside’ info from International.) Just wondering if anyone else had heard similar (rumours)??
Tommy C- the oil cooler was updated but I’m not sure the updated one was ever used in production. It seems like it was 2010 or so when it was released. A couple of aftermarket companies made (make) a “heavy duty” oil cooler that had larger (and fewer) passages, the idea being it wouldn’t clog up as easily. Problem was they are not as efficient at cooling the oil so oil temp runs a little higher, making some people think they have a problem. The Ford update was the opposite, smaller passages and an extra row to cool the oil better and damn the clogging. If you buy a new oil cooler from Ford it will be the updated MAXFORCE unit. All of the original ones should be off the shelf by now.
That would make your story true, just off a little on the timing.
AngryRed Banjo (Thanks for the details!)
I trying to do or finish a 6.0 build now it was 3 different motors all different stuff little crazy now parts are little hard to find used in my area
What area are you in?
I just bought a 05 6.0 f350 for 6k. Had rebuilt last year studded inside and out egr delete 5” straight pipe and turbo rebuilt at same time with receipts and paper work 197k miles 65k miles on the engine did I get good truck
2005 excursion 6.0 fully bulletproofed with KC stage 2 turbo, SCT custom looney tune 190/30% performance injectors with upgraded fuel pump, s&b intake with 4” straight Borla exhaust w/ 6” blackmatte tip! I eat duramax’s all day for lunch Cummins for super🤨#sleepergetsome
Trey Miller Nice. Any footage of your rig?
CellSelassie 39.no, once I get my new wheels n tires in “ hopefully this week” I will post a walk around, thanks I normally don’t comment on TH-cam but I’m a 6.0 LOVER
That is a awesome setup man. I cannot wait to upgrade my injectors to the same size as yours.
Trey Miller I’m a diehard Chevy guy but I’m appreciating fords now since I just got one. Nothing compares to the sound of the 6.0
CellSelassie 39 nothing wrong with the Chevy, all in good fun, that 6.0 whistle tho...😁
I got a late 04 I like the older style dash way better than the newer style fits the truck better in my opinion looks more like a truck interior rather half truck half car
I like the 04 but I think the updates over the years have been good. Though my 04 isn't going anywhere just got an email from kill devil diesel abiut getting thr engine underway!
Good video dude. I have an 04 and 06 and love these trucks. Just subscribed and looking forward to more videos.
Thanks man!
Notice any difference between the 2?
@@chefbodes5794 Mostly just ride quality. The 2004 is a F350 with front leaf springs and lifted.. rougher ride. The 2006 is a F250 with coil spring front suspension and factory ride hight.. smoother ride. Love both of them.
@@six0bros do you have a Instagram?
Yes I do 6.0hbros is the Instagram account. And yes there really is an h in it lol
I do like the later style front end.
Me too I'm a big fan
I have a 2003 and went aftermarket with the front end. Looks so much better
I have headlights and a raptor grille but that's it as far as cosmetic on the front. I think it looks great though.
2005 4×4 6.0 single cab 200k very good engine. Nice video
Thanks man. The 6.0 isn't nearly as bad as many would have you think.
I've got two 2007 models one has 180k feed truck I've done nothing to it the other has 200k miles I've. Changed 1 glow plug. I change oil every 2500 miles I use 5 w 30 since it was new I dump two cans if sea foam in oil couple days before I change the oil.
That's solid maintenance. May I ask why you went with 5w-30? Keeping good oil in these trucks is super important for sure and will keep them running a long time
I have a 1/2004 built in 12/15/2013 it has 352,678 miles came with a four pin ficm deleted in 2008 bullit proof oil cooler never had an issue till 2019 ford 7 year battery 2 years in one cell shorted killed ficm supply that I soldered when delete was done replaced ficm dc to dc converter I don’t beat on it Drive normally change oil when it darkens 7,000 miles or so I also have aluminum pipes on intercooler for got cheap. Have FORScan software not a single misfire only dtc is not enough egr flow detected
What about the 2008-2010 6.0's that continued on the econolines?
while the 6.0 is down I'm pretty sure ive got everything you need to upgrade to wavy rails that I be happy to just give you if you want ive got rails, valve covers and branch tubes to run with early style pump, I'm sure they need new seals and need dummies, I'm pretty sure the 03' pump is same as 04.5 but I am supposed to have a couple new 04.5 in a box somewhere in my garage, ive been hoarding parts last couple years, didn't realize I had a problem till I went to see if I had any decent fan and radiator shrouds, I found 6
Lol hey I would definitely be interested in that man. Do you have instagram?
@@six0bros no sorry on instagram. only facebook, lol ill put round up a care package for yeah this weekend, (530) 844 4513 good idea to text as a reminder my boss/father is tryn to ship me off to frickn Iowa this for couple months to fly for another operator desperate for pilots, wtf to do in iowa
i about have your care package ready 04'.5 valve cover, branches and rails anything else? ill try add a extra rail if its not bad on postage hopefully you get it going before i swap my motor lol, wish i caught tail end of this vid last week on tranny swaps, i put a 03/04 trans in a 07 easy swap, but didnt change vss and almost had cardiac arrest til slept on it $35 bucks drives tits lol next im converting a 06' 2wd trans to go in a 04 4x4
My 05 was bittersweet, I still love it just wish I had learned more before I jumped in!
I thought about making a video on 6.0 problems and fixes. Do you think something like that would have been helpful
6.0 Bros I got lots of information from powerstroke help and SDS over the years, but yes I feel you could help newbies with what will more than likely be their first foray into the diesel world as it was for myself, I’ve now turned my attention to the TDI world. I still have my f350 but she’s been parked for a while and I may need to just sell it for about 1500 to get it out my yard.
What's wrong with your truck?
If I come up on a big pile of money I’d keep it and drop a balls to the walls built 6.3 stoker in and a badass turbski,diff and trans setup! One can dream! Oh yeah add an any level lift too but modified to be able to pancake the truck for styling on fools!
6.0 Bros the usual, 2 bad injectors, more thank likely leaky or bad head gaskets, oil cooler, would probably need to do all dummy plugs and stand pipes too! Also has the sticky reverse solenoid. There’s probably more stuff but that’s what I can remember
Thanks for the fun and informative video man...Peace...oh...is there a list somewhere? (just checking anyway) ...
Thanks man. What list are you looking for if there isnt one maybe I can try and make one
I think the 2003-2004 6.0L's are one of the best,since I have dealt with them before in some work trucks.But I have heard that the 6.0L from 2005-2007 is decent as well.
They both have their issues but overall both are good trucks
The 05-07 are generally considered better do to an upgraded 4x4 suspension system and a better high pressure oil system. Also the dash is nicer imo. Theres a reason people who rebuild 6.0s always ensure they are upgraded to 05-07 standards.
My 2004 F 350 have about 300k mileage, had to get repaired and cost me 14k, it took most a year. I have a number of list that didn't work.
What all did you have done?
I have done everything to that truck but studs I don't think I'm going to do it till it starts using coolant water pumps pretty much only thing I haven't replaced I'm thinking I probably should after I had oil get in the coolant from an oil cooler failure the filtration system seems to be keeping what little is left over out
I would wait to stud until they go out. My water pump at 180k was perfectly fine. Looked next to new
@@six0bros I'll probably just wait thanks for the quick response
No problem
Does anyone have a reference for a complete bulletproofing kit for the early 6.0. My HPOP failed and I thought it’s a good excuse to bulletproof the engine?
They all run amazing!!
Well that’s just not true 😂
I had to laugh at that response, but what I think he means is they all can run great. That the differences between the years doesnt make a huge difference
Im a late 04. 6.0 dually XLT. 4 pin original FICM. Egr delete. My only problems in 6 years is oil cooler and IPR. 6.0 just sound so good.
That all in all is a good truck. Especially considering the age of these things now
@@six0bros hell yeah. Plus i dont really beat on her. 1 burn out a year maybe. Lol but most of the time she rolling on open highway pulling a scissor lift,bobcat, hauling yard equipment or a motorcycle or 2.
6.0s are really the most underrated diesel. Sure some people have problems and a lot of the time that can be traced back to bad mechanics
The best thing bout 6.0 problems is by now u almost always know what it is. An if u like me, with moderate to pretty good mechanical skills, u can usually fix it yourself. Hell they still tranna figure out the 6.4 an 6.7.
The 6.0 is user friendly you can do a lot in your driveway. The 6.4 i think with steel pistons is pretty good. The 6.7 is getting there but there just is not as much time with them yet.
Do you know what's needed to change if your installing a 2007 6.0 engine into a 03 6.0 truck. Will the harness etc match up? Thanks.
So you'll need a different engine harness. I believe the ecm is fine. There are some changes depending on if it has the maf sensor on it or just a temp sensor. If you can I would try and get as much of the 07 as possible. Why are you doing the swap
I am turning 16 soon and am thinking about buying a 06 I am ready to take on the challenge so should I get one?
Well that is hard to say. While the 6.0 is a great engine some of the things can be expensive to fix. So I would hate to point you in the direction knowing there could be an expensive repair bill in your near future. Even basic maintenance is pretty expensive. However just sticking to engine and such the 7.3 may be what you wanna look at. Overall a cheaper truck to maintain in comparison. However both can be costly. I just want to be honest with you.
Buy one thats bulletproof already
I threw a needle bearing of one on those ate the oil cooler.
Stud and delete them and with regular maintenance they are awesome
Yes they are I agree completely
I'm looking to buy a F350 Ford I've found some nice ones spanning between 05 - 07 some under 200,000 and some over 250,000. Not sure what the life expectancy mileage wise is on a 6.0L is before a rebuild is required.
I guess my question is when going after an old f350 between 05 and 07 for purchasing, does it really matter on mileage???
Really depends on how they were treated. There are guys that needed a rebuild around 200ish depending on what they did with the truck then others that have 500k still running. Check for blow by when you're buying them, and I would look at a reputable engine shop incase you need a rebuild like choate engineering kill devil diesel who is my personal favorite
So I'm look for my first diesel and I see this 6.0 calling me but it's not bullet proof but only have 106k miles would you think it would be a good buy
Sounds like a good buy. Hard to say though. Here is a video I made about what I look for when buying a 6.0 powerstroke. th-cam.com/video/jW0ymuwklVM/w-d-xo.html
trevor honicutt it’s expensive be prepared to do it right or NO
2006 f350 purchase new has 80k had to replace degas bottle at 60k and I just started using a torque pro a few months ago and noticed the ficm was low high 30s to 45 after warm up so I just replaced the ficm now I have 48+ volts. Everything else stock. Now I'm worried about the oil cooler the oil temp is about 10 degrees higher than the coolant without towing with 50 degrees outside temp I'm thinking with summer weather and towing that it would get to hot and blow the egr cooler, heads or the oil cooler?
Get the truck up to operating temp. Then cruising the flattest stretch of highway you can at 65mph if you did this a 10 degree difference is fine
Definitely 2007
thats what i got, feel pretty good about it
Another great vid, I'm a fan! I will also support your channel on amazon. Do you have those sweatshirts for sale?
First I want to say thank you. Sweatshirts should be up for sale next week.
@@six0bros awesome! I havent found a channel that explained things the way you do. Super easy to understand for the layman, and great info, thanks again! Where arw you located? I'm in philadelphia area, and new to diesels.
@@ojmcbaggins Lancaster area so pretty close
@@six0bros oh wow! I thought you might have been more north! I'm in valley forge
@@ojmcbaggins nice man you're pretty close brother
if both the later and earlier models were bullet proofed (everything) is there any other major reason to pick 1 over the other
The only reason in my opinion to pick one over the over is the suspension on the later years is better. Other than that it is just personal preference they are both the level of reliability
@@six0bros I wouldn't say better, while the coil front does turn much sharper it wheel hops like crazy vs the leaf spring truck that plants the wheels and goes.
@@SMiller5488 I have leaf springs on my white truck and I would say after driving a newer suspension setup it is overall an upgrade. That said I have driven the newer setup with as much power as my 6.0 so maybe I would feel differently if I did
What all was involved in your headlight swap? Also do you have links to the parts needed?
Yes I can get you links to everything. I also have a video on the swap itself, and how to do it. Are you looking at doing the regular 05 headlights or are you looking at the halo headlights?
@@six0bros I am not sure. I just wanted to go with the projector lights like yours. The factory 03 headlights are like driving with lanterns.
Here is the first video on what is needed to get the 05 and newer headlights in then I'll get you the video on how I wired my projectors up.
th-cam.com/video/uXoWWc6QO7k/w-d-xo.html
Here is the video on how I wired my projectors up now they do have plug and play setups but I'll get you links to each
th-cam.com/video/kH-vzjbZ-NU/w-d-xo.html
None of them
fake news lol
I have a 04.5 with older style hpop but newer style oil rails and icp on valve cover, what should I look into for updating?? I updated blue spring, dummy plug, stand off pipe, ipr screen is there anything I'm missing?
Sounds like you got the big ones man. I would just make sure to monitor ficm voltage, battery voltage, fuel pressure, ipr, and icp v.
@@six0bros ok kinda what I thought thank you 🤘🏻👌
Anytime man
Are the early 6.0’s quieter than the Later ones?
So they actually are but it is only because they have a heat wrap type material around the exhaust off the turbo for thr whole down pipe. So you could do the same on the later models if you wanted
But if you put an aftermarket exhaust each year will sound very similar
I have an 05 f350 6.0 274xxx egr deleted new oil cooler about 10xxx ago stock heads an bolts no head gasket trouble hope I dont have any
That is awesome.
You think I'll have any my truck is stock no tuner
Well any tune will increase cylinder pressure so there is always a little risk, but a tow tune will have minimal increase in cylinder pressure and still work really well. I do not recommend a race tune without studs. However all tunes do have an increased chance of helping to increased head gasket failure.
Or not worry about any of them issues. Mentioned And just get a Cummins and not have to worry about head gaskets any high pressure oil pump issues two less cylinders to less injectors no glow plugs Cummins Motor is tried-and-true if you don't believe me just look at resale value and bottom line what everyone is buying nobody wants a 6.0 for them reasons.
I own several Ford diesel trucks 2 7.3s and a 6.0 but when I wanted to a truck to pull the RV cross country I never even considered a Ford.
I want a vehicle when I get in it and turn the key I know it's going to start and I know it's not going to leave me stranded pulling a trailer that's.. why for me and my peace of mind and me Towing my trailer I picked Dodge with a Cummins motor and a manual transmission.
But everyone will have their own opinion of course and you're entitled to your opinion but just wait and see what the tow truck is whenever it comes to pick you up.
I think I am a pretty big ford fan but, I do not hold a candle to your love of dodge lol. Hey man they all have their strengths, and truthfully the competition between the big 3 right now they are all turning out such high quality trucks you would be foolish to say one is clearly superior to the others. That said my 6.0 has never let me down. Sure it needed a big repair with a cracked cylinder head which sucked, but to act like a cummins never blows a head gasket lol please. Don't foget how until recently the transmissions have been trash until built. For every truck owner that said they picked a truck brand because they wanted something reliable, there is another person with that same truck that sat waiting for a tow truck.
I would say best Cummins was the first and second generations.
It's not the Cummins I'm worried about It's the Chrysler trash attached to it
@brandonmiller7322 people forget cummins isn't perfect. Great engine just like powerstroke and duramax but it isn't perfect
What are the turbo differences
So there are 2 different compressor sides. The early years had a larger compressor wheel it was 59mm then the later style 05 turbos had a smaller 56mm wheel. On the turbine side the 03 and early 04s came with the larger 10 blade wheel that had a different vane profile and height than the later years. In late 04 they switched to a 13 blade wheel that had the same diameter inducer and exducer, but it wasn't as tall. Finally the late turbos had a smaller turbine wheel but kept the 13 blade wheel
Playing a little fast and loose with the word "best" here 😂😂😂
Maybe just a tad
Great video thanks
no problem man!
A visual would be better to actual see here and one can look back to see what they have
I agree would have made the video better. I have considered doing a part 2 of this video mainly showing the differences between the trucks
Noticed you said your planing on swapping to 05 front axle are you planning on swapping the rear as well to a 05 up axle
I have not officially made up my mind on the rear axle yet. Partially depends on how bad the first axle swap is, however I believe the rear axle swap is much easier
Yes the rear is much easier but the 99-04 axle is narrower than the 05 up front axle the swap is really not that hard at all just recently completed this swap on my brothers 99 f250 7.3 truck main thing is make sure you have good quality drill bits rest is really just unbolting and bolting new parts in.
Any tips? I am not going to do the factory stabilizer as I plan to run a dual steering stabilizer anyway
Most the holes should all be in the frame when we installed his track bar mount it went in fairly straight forward but it’s really the most difficult in my opinion because of some of the locations of the bolt holes u half to drill. As far as steering I’m not sure if the earlier 6.0s run the same steering boxes as the 05 up trucks or if you plan on swapping to the newer box. But we had to use a 1.5 ft per taper reamer on his factory pitman arm to except the larger tie rod end. Picked the reamer up on eBay for I think $70. It’s definitely a involved job but fully worth it in the end
I need a new gear box anyway so I am planning on just switching to a newer one. I know I'll have to change one of the power steering lines. So you just had to make all the holes bigger correct?
They all need constant repair. Better to buy another truck. Who wants to work on their truck every couple months. The dt466 with the oil rails on top had the same problems. Better off with the Cummins 7.3 or Duramax. The cost of ownership on these trucks don't outway the repair bills.
If work is done correctly these trucks shouldn't need constant repair.
The best year 6.0 is any year with a CTD swap 😂🇺🇸
Lol
What would cause a 6.0 to studder and turbo to studder but not lose power and cant crank when hot but wont die unless you kill it
The crank issue when hot sounds like a high pressure oil leak. When you say turbo studder is it like when you really get on it and off the throttle quickly it flutters?
@@six0bros when your just crusing it stutters engine and turbo
Are you able to check exhaust back pressure and boost? What turbo? Any other modifications to the truck deleted?
@@six0bros like the turbo scream stops and starts again but very quickly as of yesterday i turned it off and now it wont crank and no oil pressure on the dash and nothing in the oil filter housing and there is a inch long spring broke off in there and idk what uts from someone sayed low pressure valve broke
Before addressing the turbo you need to get the assembly in there fixed. Because if you're not getting low pressure oil then you cannot produce high pressure oil. There is your no start issue. After that is fixed I would turn around and start testing the turbo issue again
i paid alot of money to get my truck fixed different mechanics and they didnt fix it. it did last me 8 years though 2004 ford350
They really are good trucks but when they need fixed it definitely takes a good mechanic that understands the 6.0
Awesome vid. You sound 👍 Nick Nimmin. Tnx.
Nick nimmin has a great channel and I watch him all the time!
@@six0bros me too brotha! I just watched / listen your vid all way to the end during cooking my supper) tnx, again!
@@PistonShack thanks man!
specify the years. all you say is earlier and later models
I do believe I specify years in here but early 6.0 is 03-04 early 04 specifically. Then late is 04.5-07
2003 6.0 all the way
How’s the interior and comfort factor compared to an lmm? I’m in between the two. I love the look and that sound.... uhhh straight saweeet! But the lmm has a nice interior design on the console portion. Any advice on which you would rather daily drive
This is a hard question. First I am bias because I own a 6.0, but i do think the duramax is a great engine. I do think the 6.0 looks better. I do not know much about duramax engines and any issues they may or may not have. As for interior the lmm is a newer truck so I would imagine it would have a superior interior. I think both are good trucks, and both would treat you very well. That said the 6.0 doesnt have the dpf to deal with.
Where are you at in PA?
Lancaster area? You live around here?
About an hour north of Pittsburgh. Got an 2005 f350 drw.
Lots of late style trucks have commented I cannot wait to have my new front suspension lol
The CORRECT answer is CUMMINS.
F.O.R.D. 6.0 liter only has 4 head bolts. And blows head gaskets.
ASK ME HOW I KNOW.
Because the car 🚗, behind my 6.0 liter F.O.R.D. PICKUP, stopped me, because I was blowing coolant all over his windshield.
CUMMINS has 6 head bolts.
Well this I'd a video about the 6.0 not Cummins. I have heard about Cummins blowing head gaskets too. That said there are proven reliable fixes for the 6.0 that can make it very reliable. Sure you cannot beat having more overall bolts like my 6.7 does and the Cummins line and duramax lines but these are good trucks. They can be particular if you're not sure what you're doing or if you dont understand the engine, but good none the less
@@six0bros
I remember when F.O.R.D was looking to put a DIESEL engine in their pickup. They look at CUMMINS & International.
How different history would be IF FORD HAD SELECTED CUMMINS.
@@nellyfarnsworth7381 things would look very different. I haven't looked into it much but didnt dodge beat them to Cummins by a year or 2? I could be wrong but I though dodge was the to use a diesel and then Ford came to the game and went with international. Also don't take my comment for saying Cummins isnt a good engine. Not my intent at all. I think the millions of Cummins on the road will show they can build one of an engine. I personally prefer the v8 diesels in the duramax and the fords, but to be fair I do not have a ton of time behind the wheel of a newer Cummins
@@six0bros
Also F.O.R.D. knew the 6.0 liter was a P.O.S. because F.O.R.D. put the CUMMINS in the F-650 & F-750.
ALSO F.O.R.D. knew the 6.0 liter was a P.O.S. BECAUSE I TOLD F.O.R.D. MY 6.0 LITER WAS A P.O.S.
THIS was after, F.O.R.D. told me they would NOT FIX, their 6.0 liter (still under warranty). So I bought a CUMMINS, that is how you "FIX" a 6.0 liter F.O.R.D.
ASK ME WHAT I REALLY THINK OF F.O.R.D.
BUT BE READY FOR ALOT OF FOUR LETTER WORDS. LIKE
F.O.R.D.
@@nellyfarnsworth7381 hey man I am bias. I'll admit it. I have had really good luck with my 6.0. 100% problem free for 180k miles, and I was hard on it. Now I will say that the biggest reason to the 6.0 having a terrible reputation had a lot to do with people not really understanding it and how to fix it properly.
The one that runs.
Lol
My $8500 06 f350 2wd drw crew cab longbed automatic xl has 307k and I drive it every day. No tunes ever, studded, ringed, egr delete, stock exhaust but gutted cat and no muffler (exhaust dumps in front of passenger rear tires), blue spring, coolant filter, aluminum cac pipes, and egt sensor (right after turbo). All else stock. I see up to 4200psi at icp sensor, 32 psi boost, egts will not go over 650*f on west and north west georgia hills hauling 24k of logs, with power to spare...didn't have to floor it ever. Take care of your 6 and she'll be good to you. Or juice it up 400hp over what it was designed for and bitch that YOU blew it up! Oh yea...15.25 average hand calculated mpg. If you enjoy neglecting your vehicle, a 7.3 will take you farther. If you don't mind maintaining your vehicle, get the 6. I've owned both, I prefer the 6.
2004 best year
I love my 04!
My 2000 7.3 is the best year with forged rods. To be fair a 6.0 is more fun, like driving a truck version of my 5.0 Mustang.
We love 7.3s too, but I was focusing on the 6.0s here. I have though of comparing the 7.3 and 6.0s in a video
The big advantage of a 6.0 over a 7.3 is market price. Decent used 7.3’s are very overpriced.
I feel 6.0s most times people ask way to much too. I mean I bought my truck 7 years ago for 22,000 with 73k on it. I see people asking 18 with 180k on them it's crazy. That said I politely disagree with you on the only advantage being price lol.
Best year 6.0 powerstroke to buy is 05 to 07
I honestly feel they are all very similar each has a few different issues. Now the 05-07 suspension is not debatable. It is better
I had a 06 Ford powerstroke never had no trouble out of it but the frame was rusted the crap and back
I never really had issues with mine for a long time
The 6.0 is actually a good engine. Biggest issue were half ass mechanics. You definitely need to know your stuff and put it together right. Dont cheap out on parts either
I just bought an 05 6.0. Put 1000 miles on it and the God damn transfer case sheared itself off of the transmission. Just my fucking luck
Man sorry to hear that. I haven't heard about that happening much but would definitely stink. I wonder if anyone makes an upgraded one
It bums me out because I really love the truck. Hopefully it's not too terribly expensive but I'll find out shortly
They are good trucks some have issues early some not till later but they are relatively easily fixed and not bad to maintain. I hope the channel helps you out man
No mention on the different cam profile from 03-04 to 05-07
Very true. However I do feel it is a very minimal change from year to year. Also the white truck is an early 04 so it has an 03 engine in it. You cannot tell a difference going from that to the newer cam. However the focus was to be primarily on reliability because that is what most people debate.
06 6.0 engine got rebuilt at 300k
My stock head bolt 04 F350 has been great. It has 19X,XXX and runs great with just an egr delete, 4in straight pipe and tune. Replace parts with OEM and you won't have any issues. Maintenance is KEY!
Maintenance is key, and like you said good parts are also key.
All i needed ti know, i know the 05 and 07 are said to be the "best years" but theres a ford dealer in my area thats selling a 04 for a good price, i love the 6.0l i have a 7.3l excursion so i dont beed another 7.3l
@@ryancollins3227the 6.0 doesn’t have to be studded unless it has a tow tune or power add ons, stock you just want a egr delete and ideal the bigger 7.3 radiator
@@brandonren1219 my brother in christ. The 6.0l rad is 2 inches taller and .45 inches wider. Why on gods green earth woudl you swap out a smaller rad....? As for headstuds youre also wrong. The headbolts are not raited to last under stock power. Youre also already in there for headgasket and egr you 100% should do headstufs.
What did you end up getting? The main reason 05s and up are bit nicer is really suspension related the engine itself are both kind of the same. Both have issues both have solutions. Both blow head gaskets at about the same rate. Swapping out for 7.3 parts is kind of a silly idea. One of the big upgrades to the 6.0 was increased capacity in the cooling system. I love 7.3s don't get me wrong but many people for cheap upgrades were putting 6.0 parts on 7.3 like the intercooler. Though that's really the only one I'm aware of maybe a trans cooler?
I prefer the 05 -07's, but the 03's have some great features the others do not. The 03 has a turbo with a 10 blade turbine wheel and a 59mm compressor wheel. The 04's up began shrinking the turbos and by 05 they had a 13 blade turbine wheel and a 56mm compressor wheel. The 03 also has more aggressive camshaft specs and FICM tuning than the 04 up. If you can get an 03, the turbo and the cam make them very strong with some updating (egr delete, tuning, exhaust). You mentioned the 03 rocker arms with the metal clips. That is definitely the way to go if you can get a set. Ford no longer offers them, you will just have to buy them off an 03. If the plastic clip breaks, your rocker are will come off the pedestal leading to a catastrophic failure.
You brought up some really good points I had not thought of for this video. The turbo is a good one. Very few people even know there was a slight difference to the 03 camshaft. I am with you though I really like the newer styling.
Didn’t know about the cam but I have a very early 03 turbo. Its a screamer on 05+ trucks. Loudest turbo whistle Ive ever heard. No teenager in town can touch its whistle.
03 turbos are the loudest. Powermax turbos are loud but they have slightly less turbo whistle
I just got a 03 last Saturday and I love it
03 has the best sounding turbo man
The transmissions are really the only "bulletproof" part of the 6.0 super duties. If you could put those units behind a 6BT, you have a truck for a lifetime.
The 5r is a great transmission for sure. Especially for its time
You obviously haven't had many powerstrokes. I've blown 4 transmissions, specifically the torque converters tend to blow with too heavy of a load under higher revs.
@@jscheurichIV im on my 3rd 5r110 as well...
The 5r is a solid transmission. Now if you're getting substandard rebuilds that's one thing but a stock 5r is a great transmission a built 5r even without billet parts can handle a ton.
the bottom ends on them are great as well
Can always rely on 6.0 bros to give out excellent informative information! Great vid!
Thanks brother. Means a lot. How have you been?