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I have an early 04 with 467,983.06 miles that HAS NOT BEEN BULLETPROOFED!!! Transmission went out in last month. Just bought an 06 and upgrading oil system now. Love my 6.0’s!!!!
thats amazing 😮i have one thats cherry 🍒 mint bro .Did u just keep up the maintenance or what not on it to get that many miles from urs i would be soo happy😅😅
@binary132 so on my brother's truck he lost 1 Injector like 5 years ago ananthats all. On my truck I lost 2 injectors and realized I had a failing fuel pump that was dropping to 24psi under minimal load. I upgraded my fuel system replaced all my injectors and haven't had an injector issue since. Most people experiencing repeat injector failure typically have a fuel pump issue they haven't resolved yet has been my experience.
early early 03, stock injectors still, full bulletproof with o-rings, drw, 4wd, beat a vette and drive like a honda, long bed too. Innovative tune on street tune with ficm tune. peace out my nig
I missed this comment lol. From just an engine stand point indent feel there is a reason to buy one over the other but the 05 plus for the coil springs all day
@@six0bros The 05-07 has a better cast iron hpop compared to the failure prone aluminum bodied 03-04 hpop's. The 05-07 also has a better high pressure oil rail system. I converted my (sold) 2004 E350 6.0 van to the upgraded system when I bulletproofed it. My current truck is a 2005 F-250 extended cab short box FX4.
@@six0bros I went crazy on my bulletproof and purchased all new oem injectors, a new turbo, bed plate seal, ficm, heads with goodies, and bulletproof external liquid to liquid oil cooler and I was under $10k installed (lots of extras not mentioned).
@@six0bros I do love it! I bulletproofed it at 108,000 miles and it's currently at 111,367. I keep it garaged and in showroom condition. There's something unique about the 6.0, it has a high-strung personality and loves to be pushed.
My stock head bolt 04 F350 has been great. It has 19X,XXX and runs great with just an egr delete, 4in straight pipe and tune. Replace parts with OEM and you won't have any issues. Maintenance is KEY!
All i needed ti know, i know the 05 and 07 are said to be the "best years" but theres a ford dealer in my area thats selling a 04 for a good price, i love the 6.0l i have a 7.3l excursion so i dont beed another 7.3l
@@ryancollins3227the 6.0 doesn’t have to be studded unless it has a tow tune or power add ons, stock you just want a egr delete and ideal the bigger 7.3 radiator
@@brandonren1219 my brother in christ. The 6.0l rad is 2 inches taller and .45 inches wider. Why on gods green earth woudl you swap out a smaller rad....? As for headstuds youre also wrong. The headbolts are not raited to last under stock power. Youre also already in there for headgasket and egr you 100% should do headstufs.
What did you end up getting? The main reason 05s and up are bit nicer is really suspension related the engine itself are both kind of the same. Both have issues both have solutions. Both blow head gaskets at about the same rate. Swapping out for 7.3 parts is kind of a silly idea. One of the big upgrades to the 6.0 was increased capacity in the cooling system. I love 7.3s don't get me wrong but many people for cheap upgrades were putting 6.0 parts on 7.3 like the intercooler. Though that's really the only one I'm aware of maybe a trans cooler?
I gotta 07 F350 SRW 190k miles. Best truck I've ever had. Did things like coolant filter, blue spring, egr delete. Left tuning stock for reliability and it keeps going.
My family has a 6.0 power stroke F350 and it has been a good truck to us ever since we got it deleted and bulletproofed. They go up to at least 200k miles and this one is still going and healthy at 258k miles and hasn’t blown up or been rebuilt. Good truck unless you don’t take care of it properly.
Absolutely awesome shout out to us!!!! I’m definitely going to be returning the favor on video. Great info also!!!! I’m going to have to refer customers to watch this video. Great sum up.
Man that's awesome thank you! That's a huge compliment coming from you! Not many people have your type of knowledge on these trucks! Seriously thank you very much man.
Most Powerstroke mechanics say 05-07 are the best years for the 6.0. Not only is the truck body and suspension modern, the engine is slightly different to fix the issues the 03-04 Powerstrokes had. A Bulletproofed or completely stock 05-07 6.0 is actually a good truck.
Suspension is truly the only mechanical reason to buy an 05 and up 6.0. Now I do prefer the newer oil rails, but later years are more likely to leak on the high pressure oil system than early years. The pump is more reliable. People do tend to state they're more reliable but they have little to nothing to back it up
I have a 2006 6.0 with 320k on the clock, don’t believe it’s Been bulletprooffed. Last owned did say they had the heads redone with APR Bolts, not studs, but she’s still going strong
You can check by the valve cover if it has headboard or studs. I don't think arp makes a bolt kit for these trucks. I could be wrong. But right beside the valve cover bolt on the bottom edge will be a head bolt of stud.
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2005 F250 King Ranch - Engine build Dec 2005. Currently at 210K. I purchased at 177K - 5 years ago and have installed the following over the past 5 years: OEM remanufactured transmission and torque converter-$3700 (ford dealership parts & labor) , upgraded oil cooler and EGR delete-$1800 (parts & labor local diesel shop) all 4 new rotors, calipers, breaks pads-$cant remember (Amazon). Blue spring mod-$55, Y pipe-$150, 8 OEM motorcraft injectors-$1400, fuel rail parts-$120, OEM turbo-$720, (A buddy and I knocked out injectors, y pipe, turbo, I paid him $700) high flow muffler-$150, cat delete-$60, Matt from gearhead 8K non studded tow tune-$60, 180amp alternator-$150, 58V ficm-$250, 2 batteries 750CC-$200, SCT tuner-$400. Radiator - $210, exhaust manifold gaskets- $550 installed, 7.3 fan clutch mod- - $800 installed, Bilstein shocks -$cant remember, aftermarket touchscreen radio with 4 new speakers and back up camera. I paid $14000 5 years ago for the truck and have put $14000 in it over the last 5 years. FYI
Hi amigo I have the same truck 2005 king Ranch F250 I spend $8. K on repairs and six months later truck stated giving me problems I'm not planning to fix it anymore , I'm thinking to sell it for Chip Ford trucks no bueno!
I have a 2003 6.0 powerstroke. My stepson has a 2005 6.0. The only thing that is bad on my truck that keeps going out is the icp sensor. But my stepsons 05 6.0 with a tune and sinister everything plus the coil suspension is nothing but garbage. My truck before I bought it was used for work. An older man owned it and had a roofing company and he used this truck to tow every day. In this Texas heat. The only upgrades I have done to my truck is mishimoto Inter cooler pipes, cold air intake, blue spring upgrade and an 05 6.0 powerstroke intake elbow which I grabbed of my step sons truck because he bought a sinister one. I have 210k miles on stock oil cooler, stock head bolts stock egr. Yes my egr is still there. And my truck is dead nuts realignment thus far. I use it hard but give it good oil. I’ll make a video of it soon and post it. And as far as suspension goes, I prefer the leaf spring front end. I like stiff suspension. Much more heavier duty in my opinion. From my experience the 03 is reliable if left alone with no tune.
I am not really big sinister fan. I think your step sons truck just needs a good go through. I like the coil suspension for a nicer ride and they actually handle slightly better in my opinion. That said my leaf spring front end has been excellent. I honestly like any 6.0 lol. In my experience 6.0 year to year just have slightly different issues but nothing majorly better or worse
How’s it holding up ? I want one but honestly I kinda scared of all the problems but idk I want it to be my daily and I’m not ready to spend slot of money I would like to pay it off first
@@knoxvitela2277 Unless you are hauling stuff under a heavy load every day I would never use a diesel as a daily driver, especially the cost to maintain a 6.0.
My 04 f350 6.0 powerstroke has 789,667 and it has a few problems here and there but if you take care of it, it will take care of you....how was urs and why did you sell it?
Hey good video. I have a bone stock 2004 but my engine is a 2003. 356000 miles I put a HPOP around 200000. I have replaced 2 injectors #1 and #7. I just did the oil pan. I now have to do front cover oil leak. I love this truck and it runs stron. Ithe truck every day. Thanks
I prefer the 05 -07's, but the 03's have some great features the others do not. The 03 has a turbo with a 10 blade turbine wheel and a 59mm compressor wheel. The 04's up began shrinking the turbos and by 05 they had a 13 blade turbine wheel and a 56mm compressor wheel. The 03 also has more aggressive camshaft specs and FICM tuning than the 04 up. If you can get an 03, the turbo and the cam make them very strong with some updating (egr delete, tuning, exhaust). You mentioned the 03 rocker arms with the metal clips. That is definitely the way to go if you can get a set. Ford no longer offers them, you will just have to buy them off an 03. If the plastic clip breaks, your rocker are will come off the pedestal leading to a catastrophic failure.
You brought up some really good points I had not thought of for this video. The turbo is a good one. Very few people even know there was a slight difference to the 03 camshaft. I am with you though I really like the newer styling.
Didn’t know about the cam but I have a very early 03 turbo. Its a screamer on 05+ trucks. Loudest turbo whistle Ive ever heard. No teenager in town can touch its whistle.
I have an 07. Love it. Couple people I know that are diesel techs told me I got the better year out of all of them. Did stand pipes and dummy plugs in August, stc fitting and egr delete in December. Also switched to a cat elc1 rated coolant and added a coolant bypass filter.
05+ is definitely the route to go. If you dont tune it and do proper maintenance they are solid. If you wanna tune it then delete stud and fitting, oil pumps and all the goodies. And the 05 rides SO MUCH better and the interior is nicer. I've had both. Currently own a 05.
@@six0bros it's the same engine, just different locations for things like the HPOP, ICP etc but that coil over suspension.... is worth itself in gold lol
@@six0bros I like them better as they are more practical for what I use mine for. All around towing and dailying. Long drives to, steers and rides like a half ton almost.
There are several differences in the 18mm and 20mm heads. There were 4 casting revisions to the 18mm heads and one final revision where it received the 20mm heads also known as commonized heads. The 20mm has a thicker deck over bore which substantially reduced cracking they are known for. They also relocated the injector hold down slightly to again reduce the amount of cracking from the injector cup areas. A 20mm casted head is a superior design. To me the best is a 03’ motor with 20mm converted heads using the older rocker box and more reliable log style HPO setup.
20mm heads still are pretty common for issues overall. for factory heads if someone had the valve seat machined out and had proper pressed in valve seats though I would think that is a big upgrade, along with O ring heads. If there wasnt solid aftermarket options I would agree though except I would want the valve job done still.
My grandpa has a late 04 6.0 we have had 1 problem with the ficm, it has a bigger turbo it has brand new injectors and it has been studded and bullet proofed. We use it to pull our 9ton camper and it pulls it like there's nothing behind it
I am at 231k pulling a 35 foot trailer on my '04. I still think the EGR- coupled with an unpressurized coolant cap- throw in a tuner- and voila! Blown head gaskets. See the you tube vid on the coolant caps- left me gaping. th-cam.com/video/xM38rFuI_YE/w-d-xo.html
I just picked up a mid 03 and it's turning out to be a decent truck, but definitely expensive compared to my previous Cummins. It's had previous warranty work done to it by Ford a few years ago(new heads, head gaskets, EGR cooler, oil cooler, HPOP, new turbo, and a few other parts) So far I've done an EGR delete, upgraded oil cooler with viton seals throughout, new fuel/oil caps, motorcraft filters, fresh fluids, coolant filter, coolant cap, fleet belt, new pulleys, tensioner, 7.3 fan clutch, aluminum radiator, new hoses, cold air intake, cometic valve cover gaskets, and fuel bowl seals w/regulator and blue spring upgrade. It currently has a deleted cat and muffler, but I will eventually do a full 4" straight pipe exhaust. I won't ever tune it as I want it to live a long, happy, stress-free life. Thanks for the great information and I'm definitely subscribed!
@dylanpadilla5787 the white truck made 180k of pretty hard use overall and a head cracked. Did a build where the cam I put in caused valve to piston contact and caused major issues. Did another build and seeing how that goes, but overall great engines especially for the pretty hard use with racing and dynos plus testing for videos
The transmissions are really the only "bulletproof" part of the 6.0 super duties. If you could put those units behind a 6BT, you have a truck for a lifetime.
You obviously haven't had many powerstrokes. I've blown 4 transmissions, specifically the torque converters tend to blow with too heavy of a load under higher revs.
The 5r is a solid transmission. Now if you're getting substandard rebuilds that's one thing but a stock 5r is a great transmission a built 5r even without billet parts can handle a ton.
I did a complete bullet proofing of my 2004 F-350 6.0 truck through powerstroke specialty, those guys are amazing and took care of my truck, they also help me from Georgia if I have any issues.
@@six0bros They are great and Bill and Scott over their are great guys. They have saved me thousands when I was having issues, they said explain what's going on in the truck and instantly told me what was wrong and I was able to fix the issues.
@@six0bros My fuel tank was flaking inside and that caused my truck to die, my guys at Power stroke specialty knew instantly what was wrong over the phone. I had went to this big diesel shop near me and they want $500 for diagnostics and when I told them what it was they wanted $3200 for the repair. Me and my cousin dropped the tank and replaced the sending unit while we were there and cleaned out the system all in 4hrs for about $600. Go to guys that specialize in your specific vehicles.
You still got it? I got a 05 and I’m trying to decide what to do with it.... I’m at 215k and it’s my everyday driver and work truck. I’m trying to decide if I should keep it or sell it.
6.0 Bros it’s getting kinda bad now. It’s leaving a small puddle everytime I park. I don’t seem to be missing a noticeable amount of oil thought when I change it. I just did it a few days ago and the oil level was normal before the change.
Lol man! That's funny. I do have to agree though the newer ones have a better ride and better turning radius. they do seem to be a bit more prone to death wobble though.
@6.0 Bros I actually like them better than the allison... I had a lbz and loved it and love the allison trans but I think ford's are built for hard work and can handle more abuse
Just bought an 06 with new injectors and a rebuilt trans. Runs great, but plan on getting an Insight and and upgraded egr. Will be towing our camper with it
Definitely would love to see a video on why 6.0 is prone to ear gasket filter ! Would love to know the details behind that from someone who is not biased against them like most people
05 power stroke here. Been a great truck. Bigger turbo,4” exhaust , egr delete and a tune, I keep up with all maintenance..... again maintenance is the key...
So you'll need a different engine harness. I believe the ecm is fine. There are some changes depending on if it has the maf sensor on it or just a temp sensor. If you can I would try and get as much of the 07 as possible. Why are you doing the swap
I have an 05 f350 dually. I bought it in 2015 with 173,000 miles on it, knowing absolutely nothing about the 6.0 and it's bad rap. Shortly after I bought out the egr cooler crapped out. I got rid of that stupid egr cooler, truck ran great for 5000 miles, then the ficm power board went, I changed out the board, easy fix. Did all the mods short of head gaskets and studs, even a new oil cooler. The head gaskets had a small leak but it only became apparent when towing. I drove it that way for at least a year. Then I got a high pressure oil leak somewhere and the truck wouldn't start when hot. It was time. Decided to do a cab off head gasket job in my shop and replaced the stc fitting, stand pipes and dummy plugs. Had the heads cut at the local machine shop, they only took off.002" to get them flat, same valves, same injectors, and I also got rid of the cat while it was so easy to reach from up top. Installed some new belts and hoses and she's purring nice. I wish I'd had the Funds to relocate the oil cooler, but I didn't do there's that. She has 217,000 miles on her now. I'm hoping to get another 200,000 out of her without to much fuss. I paid 17,000 for the truck in 2015 which was a good deal, I thought.It was a really clean truck and still is. I know every inch of that truck now. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another one for the right price.
Me too. A retired FDNY Fire battalion Chief Truck. 6.0L Excursion And it just kissed 200k yesterday. Original EVERYTHING! Only thing changed are the fluids. No EGR delete, no O-Ring updates or oil pump or turbo upgrades. All stock.
I've heard the 03 has a little more "umph" than the later years. I know the 10 blade turbo is a little larger, and there was something else, but I don't remember. Personally, I have an 04 with an 03 engine deleted and studded. I added a B+D exhaust, and an Odawg sr2 to a 4" exhaust. A lift pump of course. I just run a tow tune on it. It's a very happy motor.
Yea the 03 engines are good. Despite what a lot of people will say. My 04 has an 03 engine and I love it. Cam along with the turbo make up most of the difference. Especially starting in 05 they went to a much smaller turbo.
I have 7 of these and one 7.3.. I've found the earlier 6.0's have a similar style oil feed system and never really fails.. not one of our early ones have failed including the 7.3. EVERY later year 6.0 we have.. have ALL had the o rings fail.. the modular stand pipes was a TERRIBLE idea. Built a few blocks up using the older style stand pipes and absolutely no issues. 👍🏼 everything deleted and external oil coolers and filters etc etc etc
I have an early style 6.0 powerstroke. I love the truck and the oil system tends to not fail. The pumps do but they have since updated the housing to typically not be an issue anymore. That said I would love to have the later style rails as those trucks when working correctly tend to just run smoother than the early styles, and for the most part the updated parts to fix the issues seem to be working pretty well.
Looking to buy a 05 f350 dually with about 135k. Only 5k$ Was a company vehicle that’s upgrading their fleet. I’ll only put 5k miles on it per year hauling firewood and Christmas trees. It’s overkill for sure but seems like a good deal. I’ve never owned diesel before. Is this a bad idea?
@@six0bros Thanks....that's what I thought...most trucks on Marketplace similar to that appear to be 8-12K...I've never looked for a diesel in the past, just saw a For Sale sign and a phone number with a 5,000$ price tag...going to look tonight, I'll be back!
@@scott3866 let me know how it goes. I have a video on what to look for when checking these trucks and check out my recent no start issues. There's some good information on there about things to check as for engine vitals
I had an 2004 and put 289,000 miles on it, no issues. I did egr delete. I currently have a 2007, that I've had for 10 years. I got it with 39k miles. I immediately did egr delete, head studs, new injectors, new fuel pump. Later I did KC stage 1.5 turbo, bpd ficm , csf 6028 intercooler, upgraded push rods, upgraded boots. Schaeffer's ultra 10w30 SynShield in the engine, Amsoil in trans, transfer case, differentials. Detroit lockers, 4:10 gears I pull a 19k pound 5th wheel. 297k Trouble free miles thus far. Not one single mechanical issue. I change oil ever 200 hours, fuel filters every 500 hours. 6.0 is very very reliable engine. It will pull heavy loads up the mountain, its slow but it will get the job done. Once this breaks, ill buy a new F-450 6.7 powerstroke
I have an 07/03 build date 6.0 and have had very few mechanical issues at 225k miles. a friend of mine has an early 6.0 also with 400k miles on it, most of wich was towing a camper. he had injectors and heads gaskets done back in 04-05 and hasn't had much issues since then either. the 6.0 as a whole gets a lot of negative feedback for just a few with repeat issues.
Agree completely. Once upon a time people didnt realize that if you had a bad egr cooler that your oil cooler was already done. Instead they would replace the egr cooler and never touch the oil cooler. Now it is standard procedure to replace both when this happens.
If you leave the 6.0 stock and use it as it is intended to do so....such as tow hauling working....not racing, then the 6.0 is reliable. I have a bone stock 6.0 2003 model, replaced high pressure oil pump and icp sensor, still running like a champ. If you modify a Glock, expect failures, call Glock and tell them you modified it, they will respond " leave it the fuck alone and it will be reliable asshole"!
First I didn't see this message.... second you're just wrong head gaskets still go. Later styles have hpo leaks although ford has released parts that fix this for the most part. If you're racing with one of these they eventually break no other way. I don't get what your message is about man. It's not even what the video is really about.
Not sure if you mean the other guy or me but my best mileage on a trip was 23.5 mpg completely factory other than 4 inch turbo back exhaust. Heavily modified and tuned driving around town on 35s I got 17 or something. So I think that setup would have done around 22ish on the highway
for their time the 5r110 was one of the best transmissions. in factory form they almost never failed, and I would bet most failures are do to lack of maintenance (it was that in my case)
I just bought a 2005 F250 so far i love it i have to put a heater core in it but other than that it's been awsome no blow by it o ly has 104,000 miles on it
I love my 06 f250 Harley Davidson 4x4 it's my dream truck got for 10600 I get complaints all the Time and it turns heads I get 6.7 owners tell me they love my truck I think 05 to 07 Harley Davidson and king ranch are the best looking and I do like the 07 outlaws the red interior kinda grew on me great video man glad to see ur healed up too I love the mentioning of Anthony and superduty service
@@six0bros yep you can buy them cheap and restore them if you want too and be at max 30k with buying the truck idk why in the world people go spend 60k to 90k for these new truck when a 6.0 powerstroke can do everything you want it too
I bought my truck 8 years old then had an addition 7 years without issue. Mine was an early 04 so it was sold in 03. Started my build when a cylinder head cracked and have daily driven this thing for another year except now it turns out some pretty good power
@@six0bros fuel mileage and reliability I've gone through four to five turbos in less than 2 years I've only put 40,000 miles on the truck sence I bought it. I've gone through one ficm and egr cooler and all this after it's been bulletproofed the intercooler upgraded the intake upgraded the exhaust upgraded
What has been happening with your turbos? A lot of times repeat turbo failures is caused by something else. Which would also effect fuel economy. I just did a couple videos on this recently ill get you a link
Obviously like you said they all have their issues but I have always been told the late model trucks are overall better than the early ones by my dad who has worked on many 6.0's in his career. In my opinion they all require about the same amount of work and cost to get them to be reliable and/or less prone to issues so just depends on what you want. Also when it comes to the front end I personally like the late model look over the one that was on the new body 7.3 and early 6.0
I 100% prefer the later style front ends. I wish at the time I purchased my truck I could have bought an 05-07. I think as the years went on some mechanics started to figure out how the system worked and were able to perform better repairs. Such as realizing by the time the egr cooler failed the oil cooler was already toast. I do think every mechanic has their preferred style to work on. Truthfully I wish I could have the hybrid engine that has parts from late and early.
I dont thjnn it's that bad to do. Pulling the front face of these trucks apart is pretty simple. Now swapping to the 05 axle like I'm about to that seems like a little more work lol.
6.0 Bros yea, I have a ‘93 that I want to swap, but I’m going to find a 05-07 just because of the stories I’ve heard. Then I’ll have a 6.0, have coil springs, and have updated interior, and also 4X4
I read these comments about people that love the 6.0 and im shocked. I guess we just got 2 that were bad apples. My dad bought a 05 king ranch and has sat more than run(150,000 mileapprox). In the shop now. I had a 250 and as soon as it started having problems I sold it and never regretted the decision. We are trying to figure out what to do to my dads truck because it is never dependable enough to go anywhere with it. This time it just shut off as it was driving down the road. it would crank back up idle but run rough when over idle. Im telling him to sell it ASAp but he won't get anything for it as is. Any advise? Its hard to find a mechanic that knows what they are doing with a 6.0
Hey I am happy to help man. The 6.0 is a great engine you really just need someone that understands them. So if I understand correctly the truck runs rough and shuts off when the truck is warmed up? Do you have the ability to read engine information? If not there are cheap ways to do it. Most of the running rough and no start issues can be found through reading the following parameters. Injection control pressure, injector pressure regulator, fuel injector control module voltage, battery voltage, and sync, cam/crank sync, I'll refer to those in the abbreviated form, icp, ipr, ficm. Basically I need to know those numbers while cranking engine over, idle both cold and hot. For things to read information torque pro for android is like 5 bucks plus a blue tooth obd2 adapter which I'll get you a link for. Forscan I believe is for both android and apple and will he helpful as well
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I have done everything to that truck but studs I don't think I'm going to do it till it starts using coolant water pumps pretty much only thing I haven't replaced I'm thinking I probably should after I had oil get in the coolant from an oil cooler failure the filtration system seems to be keeping what little is left over out
I am currently driving my dad's 7.3 so I do have some love for it, but in performance the 7.3 while an amazing engine especially for its time just isn't able to really keep up anymore with 15 and newer 6.7 I think an argument could be made for an 11-14 6.7 if the 7.3 was upgraded but modern tech man has made our 6.0s and 7.3s not really able to keep up. All that said I could run my 6.0 a little harder towing my camper then my stock 6.7 I never got to tow once I had done some exhaust work on my 6.7
@@six0bros something to be said about going 500k 700k miles with no major problems though. I've got a 95 powersmoke at 307k only issue is the e40d tranny.
I own Heavy Diesel Repair Shop. I also own 4 6.0's. Each of them All have had their own different issues... Here is the trick to prolong the life of your 6.0 DO NOT OVER BOOST A STOCK 6.0 you will blow head gaskets. change oil and filters every 8500 miles keep the batteries charged Pour 1 Quart of Auto Transmission Fluid into your fuel every other tank full. Oh keep the Body and Frame clean and treat both frame and undercarriage with an anti corrosion coating. They won't burn out before they RUST..... 03- F350 , 04 F-250 , 05 Excursion , 05 Excursion NOTE: There is not 1 diesel engine on the market that is issue free....They all have their ISSUES.
I agree here. I will say I try to be more in the 5-6,000 mile oil and filter change, and I use archoil in my fuel. I ran a 40hp tow tune for over 100k miles on my 6.0 it did eventually cracked a cylinder head but the truck had over 180k miles at that point with lots of towing and primarily a daily driver. I agree can't run a race tune on a stock 6.0 and not expect to break something. I also agree all diesels have their issues they are high performance engines stuff will break or you will have issues here and there. Thanks for the great comment man
@@six0bros I feel your pain. Just an FYI it doesn't get any easier as you get older. I have never worked so hard in my life. I work literally an average of about 100 + hours a week. The demand for my knowledge and service never ends. Red Lion Heavy Truck & Auto. Feel free to look us up Google Search. Crazy part is I am a Retired Cop, What was I thinking UGH..
I have a 04.5 with older style hpop but newer style oil rails and icp on valve cover, what should I look into for updating?? I updated blue spring, dummy plug, stand off pipe, ipr screen is there anything I'm missing?
I agree. I just see a lot of questions about it and a lot of people say the late years are better over the early years. Truthfully I do not feel any year is superior in terms of reliability. I do really wish I had a late model for the coil springs
Mine just rolled 210k getting ready to take it out West for a hunting trip need to do some stuff. Have you had any problems with wiring harnesses? I beefed up all the guarding on corners or anything it would rub
I have a 06 f350. Got it used not too long ago. 165k and I’m saving to bulletproof and upgrade. Been watching a ton of videos when I came across this channel. Thanks for the content. I’d love to see more towing videos cuz that’s why I purchased mine. Which parts are important to buy from bulletproof diesel and which ones can I get by with factory? So far from bulletproof it sound like the oil cooler and ficm are necessities? Thanks for the in depth content bro
I have some videos towing and talking about my setup. I am actually going to be talking about towing specific mods in the near future on my brothers truck. I want to say I do not feel that the bpd products are the only great option out there. Maybe I'll go a ficm video in the near future talking about options. In the meantime consider ficmrepair.com
6.0 Bros right on. I’ve seen a number of your videos and you’ve got a subscriber out of me. Please explain what you mean about bpd parts? If there are ways around that do tell. Thx for responding
Bpd has excellent parts do not get me wrong. However I am a big fan of options. I think competition helps keep everyone working hard to be the best. So while bpd (bullet proof diesel) has great stuff there are also other companies doing great work as well. Ficmrepair.com is one of those guys for ficms. My brother who has the grey truck on the channel he has bpd relocation kit for the oil cooler while I have decided to keep it in the factory location.
Did you have to change rockerbox or anything when you installed the kill devil heads i have a early 04 same oil rail as yours and want to buy those heads
Interesting I know this is old but have to reply, My 03/03 has been rock solid had it 9 years 1- HPOP and 1 injector, 204K Miles, SCT Tuned and original heads and Trans. Would like a newer tuck but I can't make myself buy 6.7 still not a fan.
I love my 6.7 powerstroke! But I also really love my 6.0. I can say my 6.0 makes me happy and I dont need the 6.7 but I want to go a little faster on my 6.0 so the 6.7 was a good choice. My 6.0 has been incredibly reliable. A great truck honestly
My 01/03 has 342k with no work being done and still going strong. Being a first month truck still going today it must have been built on a Wednesday lol.
Does anyone have a reference for a complete bulletproofing kit for the early 6.0. My HPOP failed and I thought it’s a good excuse to bulletproof the engine?
I have a January 2003 f250 6.0 with 342,XXX miles completely stock, it hasn't had head gaskets, a turbo, egr. It's entirely factory and I drive it every day still getting 18-20 mpg.
Just bought my first 6.0 powerstroke. I've had many 7.3's but this is my first 6.0. It's a 2006 Ford F-350 super duty XL crew cab rear wheel drive wish it was four wheel drive. I picked it up for $1,050. I have changed the water pump cuz the bearings were squealing a bit and changed out the hose connected to the map sensor cuz when I pick the truck up it was gutless and the turbo wouldn't spool up so I looked into it and took a look at the map sensor hose and noticed there was a crack in it so I changed it out and it corrected my issue with that having low power and the turbo not spooling up. I've still got to change out an idler pulley that has a bad bearing and I'm getting a code of P0273 for the cylinder 5 injector circuit low but not sure if it's just an intermittent things or what because it does seem to run pretty well now that I change that hose out going to the map sensor. I do also have a code of P0401 which says EGR flow insufficient detected but it doesn't seem like there's a problem with the EGR as it seems to run fine and I don't have any white smoke at all. I'll probably pull the EGR valve and clean it anyway. The last thing I've got on it is a bad wheel speed sensor on the front passenger side so I'll be changing that as well. Some of these issues may have been related to the bad hose which was connected to the map sensor however I'm not sure as I don't have experience with the 6.0. All the codes were pulled prior to the swap out of that hose. I reset the check engine light when replacing the hose and it did come back on however I haven't run the codes again to see what they show up as. Wish me luck. Heck for only paying $1,050 I could still put a few thousand dollars into it and be fine.
Man sounds like you got a steal on that truck! Heck if you wanted to do a 4wd swap it wouldnt take a whole lot to get it done if you went with a manual transfer case. All you do is swap tail housings on the transmission front axle and front driveshaft. It's a few more parts than that but probably for 2 grand you would have what you need. Anyway, the low circuit to your injector could be a few things. I would first give the connections in the back of the ficm a good press in and make sure they are tight. In my experience low circuit codes tend to stem from the ficm or the ficm wiring harness. So that is where I would check. The egr insufficient flow very well could be from a blocked off egr cooler. The previous owner may have welded it shut. Wont hurt anything if it is. However I would make an attempt at verifying that that is what's going on. I have never seen a 6.0 egr cooler block up with soot but it could happen.
P0401- EGR low flow is tripped when the EGR is commanded open with no corresponding rise in temperature from IAT2. If the valve isn’t installed and working or the EGR cooler is deleted or blocked you will get this code also. IAT2 can have an issue of getting really sooted up and getting slow to respond. Could just need cleaning.
The white truck on the channel has an 03 engine in it. The early 04s had the same engine as the 03s. They are good. If the truck is what you're looking for I would buy it
Just got my 6.0 out of the shop, had 250k to start. New motor(due to piston damage), kc stage 1 turbo, egr delete, Bulletproof Diesel kit, new 6 speed trans. Have had no issues. After 10k miles.
I love the late models - but mainly just for the 20" factory wheels you can get. I took advantage of the misinformation about the early ones. Got a killer deal on an 03, bought some used 06 20" wheels, put studs, new HPOP, oil cooler and a mild tune. More planned, but it's been a great truck.
@@six0bros awesome! I havent found a channel that explained things the way you do. Super easy to understand for the layman, and great info, thanks again! Where arw you located? I'm in philadelphia area, and new to diesels.
The only reason in my opinion to pick one over the over is the suspension on the later years is better. Other than that it is just personal preference they are both the level of reliability
@@six0bros I wouldn't say better, while the coil front does turn much sharper it wheel hops like crazy vs the leaf spring truck that plants the wheels and goes.
@@SMiller5488 I have leaf springs on my white truck and I would say after driving a newer suspension setup it is overall an upgrade. That said I have driven the newer setup with as much power as my 6.0 so maybe I would feel differently if I did
CellSelassie 39.no, once I get my new wheels n tires in “ hopefully this week” I will post a walk around, thanks I normally don’t comment on TH-cam but I’m a 6.0 LOVER
2006 f350 purchase new has 80k had to replace degas bottle at 60k and I just started using a torque pro a few months ago and noticed the ficm was low high 30s to 45 after warm up so I just replaced the ficm now I have 48+ volts. Everything else stock. Now I'm worried about the oil cooler the oil temp is about 10 degrees higher than the coolant without towing with 50 degrees outside temp I'm thinking with summer weather and towing that it would get to hot and blow the egr cooler, heads or the oil cooler?
I love my early 04 ...beautiful after swallowing some $$$ of course , all the usuals witha brand new HPOP and now keeping Her and just got an 06 ...so i can have both and experience with them
So they actually are but it is only because they have a heat wrap type material around the exhaust off the turbo for thr whole down pipe. So you could do the same on the later models if you wanted
I would check the valley of the engine. Uou can also check the back of the engine from underneath to see if it is coming from the hood. Next inspect valve covers and see if it is leaking from the. AND down the engine. Last the bed plate and oil pan. Basically try and see how high on the engine it is. Could be a hpop cover that is leaking or could be bedplate or oil pan
Ok that is pretty good. I do have a subscriber running one of theirs and he does like it. Most shops are around 500 ish to install so the Warren after tax comes to a good bit more. Plus you cant put a dollar amount in when you need a vehicle so I think you have made the right choice man
Yes I can get you links to everything. I also have a video on the swap itself, and how to do it. Are you looking at doing the regular 05 headlights or are you looking at the halo headlights?
Here is the first video on what is needed to get the 05 and newer headlights in then I'll get you the video on how I wired my projectors up. th-cam.com/video/uXoWWc6QO7k/w-d-xo.html
Here is the video on how I wired my projectors up now they do have plug and play setups but I'll get you links to each th-cam.com/video/kH-vzjbZ-NU/w-d-xo.html
So there are 2 different compressor sides. The early years had a larger compressor wheel it was 59mm then the later style 05 turbos had a smaller 56mm wheel. On the turbine side the 03 and early 04s came with the larger 10 blade wheel that had a different vane profile and height than the later years. In late 04 they switched to a 13 blade wheel that had the same diameter inducer and exducer, but it wasn't as tall. Finally the late turbos had a smaller turbine wheel but kept the 13 blade wheel
6.0 Bros I got lots of information from powerstroke help and SDS over the years, but yes I feel you could help newbies with what will more than likely be their first foray into the diesel world as it was for myself, I’ve now turned my attention to the TDI world. I still have my f350 but she’s been parked for a while and I may need to just sell it for about 1500 to get it out my yard.
If I come up on a big pile of money I’d keep it and drop a balls to the walls built 6.3 stoker in and a badass turbski,diff and trans setup! One can dream! Oh yeah add an any level lift too but modified to be able to pancake the truck for styling on fools!
6.0 Bros the usual, 2 bad injectors, more thank likely leaky or bad head gaskets, oil cooler, would probably need to do all dummy plugs and stand pipes too! Also has the sticky reverse solenoid. There’s probably more stuff but that’s what I can remember
Great video, EGR deleted or not!? how can I find out? New to 6.0 and I just bought a 2006 crew cab with 51K miles, it has dual exhaust pipes? runs great and I choose 05 - 07 just because of the front coil springs. not towing anything at least yet just for camping /off road as a family vehicle.
I am always in favor of deleting if able to for "off road" use of course lol. But in all honesty from a reliability/power stand point there is little to no benefit to deleting provided there is an upgrade egr cooler in there that will stand up to the abuse these trucks see. Now that being said the factory one can be a weak link. If you run one I would just upgrade it and that will work very well.
Not sure which year powerstroke to buy? check out the new video talking about the best years of the 6.7 Powerstroke!!
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I'm gonna say my 2007 is the best haha. Cause it is mine
And it's a lariat outlaw.
I know all about loving your own truck man I am guilty of it myself
Where did you get you grill and does it come in chrome for 06?
I don't think it comes in crom this one is charcoal. Here is an affiliate link for one of the grilles for your year. Its matte black though
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Being a 7.3 guy, you 6.0 guys know a lot more technical information about your truck than we do.
I have an early 04 with 467,983.06 miles that HAS NOT BEEN BULLETPROOFED!!! Transmission went out in last month. Just bought an 06 and upgrading oil system now. Love my 6.0’s!!!!
What are you doing to the oil system?
thats amazing 😮i have one thats cherry 🍒 mint bro .Did u just keep up the maintenance or what not on it to get that many miles from urs i would be soo happy😅😅
Ok…. Be honest, how many injectors have you gone through???
@binary132 so on my brother's truck he lost 1 Injector like 5 years ago ananthats all. On my truck I lost 2 injectors and realized I had a failing fuel pump that was dropping to 24psi under minimal load. I upgraded my fuel system replaced all my injectors and haven't had an injector issue since. Most people experiencing repeat injector failure typically have a fuel pump issue they haven't resolved yet has been my experience.
early early 03, stock injectors still, full bulletproof with o-rings, drw, 4wd, beat a vette and drive like a honda, long bed too. Innovative tune on street tune with ficm tune. peace out my nig
So 2005 to 2007 it is. I agree.
Itsa Mea yep, definitely those years
I missed this comment lol. From just an engine stand point indent feel there is a reason to buy one over the other but the 05 plus for the coil springs all day
@@six0bros and I believe the brakes are better on the 05-07 trucks too.
They are larger breaks
@@six0bros The 05-07 has a better cast iron hpop compared to the failure prone aluminum bodied 03-04 hpop's. The 05-07 also has a better high pressure oil rail system. I converted my (sold) 2004 E350 6.0 van to the upgraded system when I bulletproofed it. My current truck is a 2005 F-250 extended cab short box FX4.
But I hope that all of us 6.0 Powerstroke guys can realize that even through they're all expensive garbage we still love them!!
I just spent about 14k getting my lb7 all sorted and you'll have to do the same on the 6.0 to get it reliable.
@@MrMystang92 14k to make a 6.0 reliable is pretty high. at 14k you have one bad ass 6.0 as I am sure you have one bad ass lb7
@@six0bros I went crazy on my bulletproof and purchased all new oem injectors, a new turbo, bed plate seal, ficm, heads with goodies, and bulletproof external liquid to liquid oil cooler and I was under $10k installed (lots of extras not mentioned).
@@andrewb9708 that's awesome man. You're gonna love it more than ever
@@six0bros I do love it! I bulletproofed it at 108,000 miles and it's currently at 111,367. I keep it garaged and in showroom condition. There's something unique about the 6.0, it has a high-strung personality and loves to be pushed.
My stock head bolt 04 F350 has been great. It has 19X,XXX and runs great with just an egr delete, 4in straight pipe and tune. Replace parts with OEM and you won't have any issues. Maintenance is KEY!
Maintenance is key, and like you said good parts are also key.
All i needed ti know, i know the 05 and 07 are said to be the "best years" but theres a ford dealer in my area thats selling a 04 for a good price, i love the 6.0l i have a 7.3l excursion so i dont beed another 7.3l
@@ryancollins3227the 6.0 doesn’t have to be studded unless it has a tow tune or power add ons, stock you just want a egr delete and ideal the bigger 7.3 radiator
@@brandonren1219 my brother in christ. The 6.0l rad is 2 inches taller and .45 inches wider. Why on gods green earth woudl you swap out a smaller rad....? As for headstuds youre also wrong. The headbolts are not raited to last under stock power. Youre also already in there for headgasket and egr you 100% should do headstufs.
What did you end up getting? The main reason 05s and up are bit nicer is really suspension related the engine itself are both kind of the same. Both have issues both have solutions. Both blow head gaskets at about the same rate. Swapping out for 7.3 parts is kind of a silly idea. One of the big upgrades to the 6.0 was increased capacity in the cooling system. I love 7.3s don't get me wrong but many people for cheap upgrades were putting 6.0 parts on 7.3 like the intercooler. Though that's really the only one I'm aware of maybe a trans cooler?
My truck with 451000 miles still on the road.. i love it!!
That's bad ass man
I gotta 07 F350 SRW 190k miles. Best truck I've ever had. Did things like coolant filter, blue spring, egr delete. Left tuning stock for reliability and it keeps going.
Two more days to get my truck back and I just can’t wait to feel the ride. Powerstroke 6.0
Congrats man that's awesome
My family has a 6.0 power stroke F350 and it has been a good truck to us ever since we got it deleted and bulletproofed. They go up to at least 200k miles and this one is still going and healthy at 258k miles and hasn’t blown up or been rebuilt. Good truck unless you don’t take care of it properly.
They really are good trucks. Address the egr there are a lot of great options for that today. A quality headstud job and you're set.
I got 2006 model with 300000 miles on it awesome truck Still run like new Only bad thing is takes forever to warm up
Thats awesome man. Thats a good mileage out of any engine in my book
Absolutely awesome shout out to us!!!! I’m definitely going to be returning the favor on video. Great info also!!!! I’m going to have to refer customers to watch this video. Great sum up.
Man that's awesome thank you! That's a huge compliment coming from you! Not many people have your type of knowledge on these trucks! Seriously thank you very much man.
Can always rely on 6.0 bros to give out excellent informative information! Great vid!
Thanks brother. Means a lot. How have you been?
I think the 06-07 are the 2 best years. I love my 06, it’s been great. 👍
I could be wrong but I do think some of the updated parts started coming out I think in late 06
6.0 Bros I’m pretty sure you’re right. I know the big misconception is they got stronger head bolts which is not true. Anyway great channel man!
Thanks I appreciate it very much. By the way I love the name. Ron Burgundy lol
Most Powerstroke mechanics say 05-07 are the best years for the 6.0. Not only is the truck body and suspension modern, the engine is slightly different to fix the issues the 03-04 Powerstrokes had. A Bulletproofed or completely stock 05-07 6.0 is actually a good truck.
Suspension is truly the only mechanical reason to buy an 05 and up 6.0. Now I do prefer the newer oil rails, but later years are more likely to leak on the high pressure oil system than early years. The pump is more reliable. People do tend to state they're more reliable but they have little to nothing to back it up
I have a 2006 6.0 with 320k on the clock, don’t believe it’s Been bulletprooffed. Last owned did say they had the heads redone with APR Bolts, not studs, but she’s still going strong
Im getting 04 f350 6speed im goin to upgrade heads, clutch, turbo, high pressure oil pump cool air intake and nice tow tune
You can check by the valve cover if it has headboard or studs. I don't think arp makes a bolt kit for these trucks. I could be wrong. But right beside the valve cover bolt on the bottom edge will be a head bolt of stud.
That'll be a nice build man. Check out our turbo sponsor turbotimeusa.com/SIX0BROS that is an affiliate link for a 10% off on their built turbos, and blessed performance use affiliate code six0bros for 10% off tuning and even some other products as well. It doesn't apply to everything on their site but it does help with some stuff
2005 F250 King Ranch - Engine build Dec 2005. Currently at 210K. I purchased at 177K - 5 years ago and have installed the following over the past 5 years: OEM remanufactured transmission and torque converter-$3700 (ford dealership parts & labor) , upgraded oil cooler and EGR delete-$1800 (parts & labor local diesel shop) all 4 new rotors, calipers, breaks pads-$cant remember (Amazon). Blue spring mod-$55, Y pipe-$150, 8 OEM motorcraft injectors-$1400, fuel rail parts-$120, OEM turbo-$720, (A buddy and I knocked out injectors, y pipe, turbo, I paid him $700) high flow muffler-$150, cat delete-$60, Matt from gearhead 8K non studded tow tune-$60, 180amp alternator-$150, 58V ficm-$250, 2 batteries 750CC-$200, SCT tuner-$400. Radiator - $210, exhaust manifold gaskets- $550 installed, 7.3 fan clutch mod- - $800 installed, Bilstein shocks -$cant remember, aftermarket touchscreen radio with 4 new speakers and back up camera. I paid $14000 5 years ago for the truck and have put $14000 in it over the last 5 years. FYI
Damn, Never going to get that back. Better plan on getting buried in it! LOL
Hi amigo I have the same truck 2005 king Ranch F250
I spend $8. K on repairs and six months later truck stated giving me problems I'm not planning to fix it anymore , I'm thinking to sell it for Chip
Ford trucks no bueno!
@andreslugo8694 what's your truck doing and what did you have done prior?
I have a 2003 6.0 powerstroke. My stepson has a 2005 6.0. The only thing that is bad on my truck that keeps going out is the icp sensor. But my stepsons 05 6.0 with a tune and sinister everything plus the coil suspension is nothing but garbage. My truck before I bought it was used for work. An older man owned it and had a roofing company and he used this truck to tow every day. In this Texas heat. The only upgrades I have done to my truck is mishimoto Inter cooler pipes, cold air intake, blue spring upgrade and an 05 6.0 powerstroke intake elbow which I grabbed of my step sons truck because he bought a sinister one. I have 210k miles on stock oil cooler, stock head bolts stock egr. Yes my egr is still there. And my truck is dead nuts realignment thus far. I use it hard but give it good oil. I’ll make a video of it soon and post it. And as far as suspension goes, I prefer the leaf spring front end. I like stiff suspension. Much more heavier duty in my opinion. From my experience the 03 is reliable if left alone with no tune.
I am not really big sinister fan. I think your step sons truck just needs a good go through. I like the coil suspension for a nicer ride and they actually handle slightly better in my opinion. That said my leaf spring front end has been excellent. I honestly like any 6.0 lol. In my experience 6.0 year to year just have slightly different issues but nothing majorly better or worse
I just picked up a 2003 king ranch 6.0 I've had it for 3 days and so far so good. 220k miles sounds amazing and the Turbo sounds amazing!
The best sounding turbo out there!
How’s it holding up ? I want one but honestly I kinda scared of all the problems but idk I want it to be my daily and I’m not ready to spend slot of money I would like to pay it off first
440k on mine
Nice man. Just a couple of miles lol
@@knoxvitela2277 Unless you are hauling stuff under a heavy load every day I would never use a diesel as a daily driver, especially the cost to maintain a 6.0.
I tried to play a drinking game to where you said "across the board" I took a drink. I died
brian clay hahaha
I had an early 04 F-350 with the 6.0 and it had 387k on it when I sold it
Just a couple of miles huh lol. That's awesome almost 400k on it.
My 04 f350 6.0 powerstroke has 789,667 and it has a few problems here and there but if you take care of it, it will take care of you....how was urs and why did you sell it?
@@slerbster6049 mine was a great truck and I miss it
I only traded it in for a 6.7 for the power and some luxury things
@@slerbster6049 789k? Total bs😂
I have seen some trucks pretty high up there. I agree this would be an extreme example but you hear about other truxks doing it too
Hey good video. I have a bone stock 2004 but my engine is a 2003. 356000 miles I put a HPOP around 200000. I have replaced 2 injectors #1 and #7. I just did the oil pan. I now have to do front cover oil leak. I love this truck and it runs stron. Ithe truck every day. Thanks
Hey you have an engine like me an early 04 that has an 03 engine in it.
I prefer the 05 -07's, but the 03's have some great features the others do not. The 03 has a turbo with a 10 blade turbine wheel and a 59mm compressor wheel. The 04's up began shrinking the turbos and by 05 they had a 13 blade turbine wheel and a 56mm compressor wheel. The 03 also has more aggressive camshaft specs and FICM tuning than the 04 up. If you can get an 03, the turbo and the cam make them very strong with some updating (egr delete, tuning, exhaust). You mentioned the 03 rocker arms with the metal clips. That is definitely the way to go if you can get a set. Ford no longer offers them, you will just have to buy them off an 03. If the plastic clip breaks, your rocker are will come off the pedestal leading to a catastrophic failure.
You brought up some really good points I had not thought of for this video. The turbo is a good one. Very few people even know there was a slight difference to the 03 camshaft. I am with you though I really like the newer styling.
Didn’t know about the cam but I have a very early 03 turbo. Its a screamer on 05+ trucks. Loudest turbo whistle Ive ever heard. No teenager in town can touch its whistle.
03 turbos are the loudest. Powermax turbos are loud but they have slightly less turbo whistle
I just got a 03 last Saturday and I love it
03 has the best sounding turbo man
I have an 07. Love it. Couple people I know that are diesel techs told me I got the better year out of all of them. Did stand pipes and dummy plugs in August, stc fitting and egr delete in December. Also switched to a cat elc1 rated coolant and added a coolant bypass filter.
I think where the real improvements came are in the suspension
I definitely do like the way it rides.
I cant wait to swap to an 05 front suspension
I just picked up an 05 Excursion with the 6.0 Powerstroke! Loving it so far.
That's great man. Hope it treats you well
05+ is definitely the route to go. If you dont tune it and do proper maintenance they are solid. If you wanna tune it then delete stud and fitting, oil pumps and all the goodies. And the 05 rides SO MUCH better and the interior is nicer. I've had both. Currently own a 05.
I think all around the 05 is better but not because of the engine. However when it comes to the overall package I feel the 05-07 are the better years.
@@six0bros it's the same engine, just different locations for things like the HPOP, ICP etc but that coil over suspension.... is worth itself in gold lol
I agree there. This is why I will be swapping to an 05 f350 front end.
@@six0bros I like them better as they are more practical for what I use mine for. All around towing and dailying. Long drives to, steers and rides like a half ton almost.
Plus better turning radius, bigger brakes. I cannot wait to have my new axle in
There are several differences in the 18mm and 20mm heads. There were 4 casting revisions to the 18mm heads and one final revision where it received the 20mm heads also known as commonized heads. The 20mm has a thicker deck over bore which substantially reduced cracking they are known for. They also relocated the injector hold down slightly to again reduce the amount of cracking from the injector cup areas. A 20mm casted head is a superior design. To me the best is a 03’ motor with 20mm converted heads using the older rocker box and more reliable log style HPO setup.
20mm heads still are pretty common for issues overall. for factory heads if someone had the valve seat machined out and had proper pressed in valve seats though I would think that is a big upgrade, along with O ring heads. If there wasnt solid aftermarket options I would agree though except I would want the valve job done still.
My grandpa has a late 04 6.0 we have had 1 problem with the ficm, it has a bigger turbo it has brand new injectors and it has been studded and bullet proofed. We use it to pull our 9ton camper and it pulls it like there's nothing behind it
They are good trucks brother!
My 04 has been great I maintenance regularly and use quality stuff and I'm at 181,000 miles and running strong.
That is where I was when I started my build. Good quality maintenance is the key
I am at 231k pulling a 35 foot trailer on my '04. I still think the EGR- coupled with an unpressurized coolant cap- throw in a tuner- and voila! Blown head gaskets. See the you tube vid on the coolant caps- left me gaping. th-cam.com/video/xM38rFuI_YE/w-d-xo.html
My 04 f350 6.0 has 786,667 and it's still doin great best part it's not even bulletproof and it's still doing what I need it to do
That is awesome. Any major repairs in that time?
I haven't had any problems for about 90k miles rn
I have a first year 2003 6.0 and it's all good so running good still.
Same here early 04(came with 03 engines)
My 06 I’m glad I got the best year
Lol I mean nothing to do with the engine but 05-07 is one of the best looking trucks every built
I trying to do or finish a 6.0 build now it was 3 different motors all different stuff little crazy now parts are little hard to find used in my area
What area are you in?
I love my 06 power stroke! The thing roals coal and is a awesome farm truck!
lots of love for the 6.0 on this channel
@@six0bros awesome
Buying a 06 6.0 tomorrow 🤙🏽
Awesome! Let us know if we can helpb
I bought an 07 6.0 about two weeks ago. Love it so far
I just picked up a mid 03 and it's turning out to be a decent truck, but definitely expensive compared to my previous Cummins. It's had previous warranty work done to it by Ford a few years ago(new heads, head gaskets, EGR cooler, oil cooler, HPOP, new turbo, and a few other parts) So far I've done an EGR delete, upgraded oil cooler with viton seals throughout, new fuel/oil caps, motorcraft filters, fresh fluids, coolant filter, coolant cap, fleet belt, new pulleys, tensioner, 7.3 fan clutch, aluminum radiator, new hoses, cold air intake, cometic valve cover gaskets, and fuel bowl seals w/regulator and blue spring upgrade. It currently has a deleted cat and muffler, but I will eventually do a full 4" straight pipe exhaust. I won't ever tune it as I want it to live a long, happy, stress-free life. Thanks for the great information and I'm definitely subscribed!
Thanks man! Hope you love the new truck
How’s the truck held up?
@dylanpadilla5787 the white truck made 180k of pretty hard use overall and a head cracked. Did a build where the cam I put in caused valve to piston contact and caused major issues. Did another build and seeing how that goes, but overall great engines especially for the pretty hard use with racing and dynos plus testing for videos
Ive had early style and newer, exact same mods to both and the 05-07 didnt have nearly the same amount of problems as the old style did
while that has happen to people but there are a lot of early trucks that made it to high miles.
The transmissions are really the only "bulletproof" part of the 6.0 super duties. If you could put those units behind a 6BT, you have a truck for a lifetime.
The 5r is a great transmission for sure. Especially for its time
You obviously haven't had many powerstrokes. I've blown 4 transmissions, specifically the torque converters tend to blow with too heavy of a load under higher revs.
@@jscheurichIV im on my 3rd 5r110 as well...
The 5r is a solid transmission. Now if you're getting substandard rebuilds that's one thing but a stock 5r is a great transmission a built 5r even without billet parts can handle a ton.
the bottom ends on them are great as well
I did a complete bullet proofing of my 2004 F-350 6.0 truck through powerstroke specialty, those guys are amazing and took care of my truck, they also help me from Georgia if I have any issues.
I have heard good things. I haven't had any experience with them though
@@six0bros They are great and Bill and Scott over their are great guys. They have saved me thousands when I was having issues, they said explain what's going on in the truck and instantly told me what was wrong and I was able to fix the issues.
That's great to hear. It's rare to find good shops today. I know there are a handful out there but it can he rare
@@six0bros My fuel tank was flaking inside and that caused my truck to die, my guys at Power stroke specialty knew instantly what was wrong over the phone. I had went to this big diesel shop near me and they want $500 for diagnostics and when I told them what it was they wanted $3200 for the repair. Me and my cousin dropped the tank and replaced the sending unit while we were there and cleaned out the system all in 4hrs for about $600. Go to guys that specialize in your specific vehicles.
I love my 03 P-stroke....at 200k i just installed a sinister oil/coolant bypass kit. I plan on keeping it for awhile😊
You still got it? I got a 05 and I’m trying to decide what to do with it.... I’m at 215k and it’s my everyday driver and work truck. I’m trying to decide if I should keep it or sell it.
Man if it is running good I would just keep going. Just my opinion
6.0 Bros it runs fine but it does have a rockerbox gasket leak. Unfortunately to repair that, the head studs have to come out (AKA be replaced).
That sucks how bad is the leak
6.0 Bros it’s getting kinda bad now. It’s leaving a small puddle everytime I park. I don’t seem to be missing a noticeable amount of oil thought when I change it. I just did it a few days ago and the oil level was normal before the change.
2004.... The best
05. Fight me.
Lol this was a good comment. I'm partial to both trucks I have an 94 but love the newer suspension
6.0 Bros these hands go both ways my guy its all about C L O U D R I D E lmao
Lol man! That's funny. I do have to agree though the newer ones have a better ride and better turning radius. they do seem to be a bit more prone to death wobble though.
Bro my dad is has an 04 f350 wit a bulletproofed 6.0 and the sound is music to my ears
I never had and trans problems with my early or late 6.0... strong transmissions
They are great transmissions. One of the best especially for the time.
@6.0 Bros I actually like them better than the allison... I had a lbz and loved it and love the allison trans but I think ford's are built for hard work and can handle more abuse
Just bought an 06 with new injectors and a rebuilt trans. Runs great, but plan on getting an Insight and and upgraded egr. Will be towing our camper with it
Nice man. Those are 2 big replacement items so you lucked out
Definitely would love to see a video on why 6.0 is prone to ear gasket filter ! Would love to know the details behind that from someone who is not biased against them like most people
I'll put it on my list to make man. As long as you guys still enjoy these more informative videos as I continue to recover I'll keep making them
05 power stroke here. Been a great truck. Bigger turbo,4” exhaust , egr delete and a tune, I keep up with all maintenance..... again maintenance is the key...
Maintenance is the most important thing on these trucks. They are still overall my favorite engine
04 f250 6.0 170k miles on it bought used and great diesel mileage
I really think the 6.0 is the most underrated diesel out there
Do you know what's needed to change if your installing a 2007 6.0 engine into a 03 6.0 truck. Will the harness etc match up? Thanks.
So you'll need a different engine harness. I believe the ecm is fine. There are some changes depending on if it has the maf sensor on it or just a temp sensor. If you can I would try and get as much of the 07 as possible. Why are you doing the swap
I have an 05 f350 dually. I bought it in 2015 with 173,000 miles on it, knowing absolutely nothing about the 6.0 and it's bad rap. Shortly after I bought out the egr cooler crapped out. I got rid of that stupid egr cooler, truck ran great for 5000 miles, then the ficm power board went, I changed out the board, easy fix. Did all the mods short of head gaskets and studs, even a new oil cooler. The head gaskets had a small leak but it only became apparent when towing. I drove it that way for at least a year. Then I got a high pressure oil leak somewhere and the truck wouldn't start when hot. It was time. Decided to do a cab off head gasket job in my shop and replaced the stc fitting, stand pipes and dummy plugs. Had the heads cut at the local machine shop, they only took off.002" to get them flat, same valves, same injectors, and I also got rid of the cat while it was so easy to reach from up top. Installed some new belts and hoses and she's purring nice. I wish I'd had the Funds to relocate the oil cooler, but I didn't do there's that. She has 217,000 miles on her now. I'm hoping to get another 200,000 out of her without to much fuss. I paid 17,000 for the truck in 2015 which was a good deal, I thought.It was a really clean truck and still is. I know every inch of that truck now. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another one for the right price.
The 06 is what I have and it’s the best! Great farm truck!
They really are great all around trucks.
6.0 Bros yeah! They are
I have an 03 6.0 I used it for work. It tows alot. It's all stock. 200k miles on her so far. Original injectors original hpop original egr cooler
Wow man that is really good. Normally something has gone by then. Here is to another 200k
Me too. A retired FDNY Fire battalion Chief Truck. 6.0L Excursion And it just kissed 200k yesterday. Original EVERYTHING! Only thing changed are the fluids. No EGR delete, no O-Ring updates or oil pump or turbo upgrades. All stock.
You're definitely one of a few to be able to say that. I love the 6.0 though.
I've heard the 03 has a little more "umph" than the later years. I know the 10 blade turbo is a little larger, and there was something else, but I don't remember.
Personally, I have an 04 with an 03 engine deleted and studded. I added a B+D exhaust, and an Odawg sr2 to a 4" exhaust. A lift pump of course. I just run a tow tune on it.
It's a very happy motor.
Oh, of course, the cam!
Yea the 03 engines are good. Despite what a lot of people will say. My 04 has an 03 engine and I love it. Cam along with the turbo make up most of the difference. Especially starting in 05 they went to a much smaller turbo.
I have 7 of these and one 7.3.. I've found the earlier 6.0's have a similar style oil feed system and never really fails.. not one of our early ones have failed including the 7.3. EVERY later year 6.0 we have.. have ALL had the o rings fail.. the modular stand pipes was a TERRIBLE idea. Built a few blocks up using the older style stand pipes and absolutely no issues. 👍🏼 everything deleted and external oil coolers and filters etc etc etc
I have an early style 6.0 powerstroke. I love the truck and the oil system tends to not fail. The pumps do but they have since updated the housing to typically not be an issue anymore. That said I would love to have the later style rails as those trucks when working correctly tend to just run smoother than the early styles, and for the most part the updated parts to fix the issues seem to be working pretty well.
Looking to buy a 05 f350 dually with about 135k. Only 5k$ Was a company vehicle that’s upgrading their fleet. I’ll only put 5k miles on it per year hauling firewood and Christmas trees. It’s overkill for sure but seems like a good deal. I’ve never owned diesel before. Is this a bad idea?
I think overall it's a good idea. Will there maybe be some stuff to address sure but overall it's a good idea and cheaper to fix than the newer trucks
@@six0bros Thanks....that's what I thought...most trucks on Marketplace similar to that appear to be 8-12K...I've never looked for a diesel in the past, just saw a For Sale sign and a phone number with a 5,000$ price tag...going to look tonight, I'll be back!
@@scott3866 let me know how it goes. I have a video on what to look for when checking these trucks and check out my recent no start issues. There's some good information on there about things to check as for engine vitals
@@six0bros Thanks your videos I've seen have been very insightful!
Stay tuned....
Sounds good. I am glad they have been helpful to you. Good luck today
I had an 2004 and put 289,000 miles on it, no issues. I did egr delete.
I currently have a 2007, that I've had for 10 years. I got it with 39k miles. I immediately did egr delete, head studs, new injectors, new fuel pump.
Later I did KC stage 1.5 turbo, bpd ficm , csf 6028 intercooler, upgraded push rods, upgraded boots. Schaeffer's ultra 10w30 SynShield in the engine, Amsoil in trans, transfer case, differentials. Detroit lockers, 4:10 gears
I pull a 19k pound 5th wheel. 297k Trouble free miles thus far. Not one single mechanical issue.
I change oil ever 200 hours, fuel filters every 500 hours.
6.0 is very very reliable engine. It will pull heavy loads up the mountain, its slow but it will get the job done.
Once this breaks, ill buy a new
F-450 6.7 powerstroke
I definitely love my 6.0 and my 6.7 I am gonna do a review comparing them towing in the near future. Both great engines.
I have an 07/03 build date 6.0 and have had very few mechanical issues at 225k miles. a friend of mine has an early 6.0 also with 400k miles on it, most of wich was towing a camper. he had injectors and heads gaskets done back in 04-05 and hasn't had much issues since then either. the 6.0 as a whole gets a lot of negative feedback for just a few with repeat issues.
Agree completely. Once upon a time people didnt realize that if you had a bad egr cooler that your oil cooler was already done. Instead they would replace the egr cooler and never touch the oil cooler. Now it is standard procedure to replace both when this happens.
If you leave the 6.0 stock and use it as it is intended to do so....such as tow hauling working....not racing, then the 6.0 is reliable. I have a bone stock 6.0 2003 model, replaced high pressure oil pump and icp sensor, still running like a champ. If you modify a Glock, expect failures, call Glock and tell them you modified it, they will respond " leave it the fuck alone and it will be reliable asshole"!
What is your average mpg?
First I didn't see this message.... second you're just wrong head gaskets still go. Later styles have hpo leaks although ford has released parts that fix this for the most part. If you're racing with one of these they eventually break no other way. I don't get what your message is about man. It's not even what the video is really about.
Not sure if you mean the other guy or me but my best mileage on a trip was 23.5 mpg completely factory other than 4 inch turbo back exhaust. Heavily modified and tuned driving around town on 35s I got 17 or something. So I think that setup would have done around 22ish on the highway
The early, early 2003 had an EGR cooler from Garret that is the same design as bulletproof diesel. It doesn't really have failure problems.
@@warrenborders595 I have that in my truck. The 03 and early 04 have that one. Nit many people realize that good catch man
I love the 6.0 from 04+ If you bullet proof it with trans upgrade then your golden but you have to maintain it like an international engine
for their time the 5r110 was one of the best transmissions. in factory form they almost never failed, and I would bet most failures are do to lack of maintenance (it was that in my case)
I just bought a 2005 F250 so far i love it i have to put a heater core in it but other than that it's been awsome no blow by it o ly has 104,000 miles on it
Such low miles man. That is awesome. A heater core is common in these unfortunately.
Late 04 310xxx studded deleted and tuned little leaking but runs strong
Heck yea man. Those are some miles!
I love my 06 f250 Harley Davidson 4x4 it's my dream truck got for 10600 I get complaints all the Time and it turns heads I get 6.7 owners tell me they love my truck I think 05 to 07 Harley Davidson and king ranch are the best looking and I do like the 07 outlaws the red interior kinda grew on me great video man glad to see ur healed up too I love the mentioning of Anthony and superduty service
Our year trucks have a I think a timeless look to them, and anthony does great work he deserves a shout out for it
@@six0bros yep you can buy them cheap and restore them if you want too and be at max 30k with buying the truck idk why in the world people go spend 60k to 90k for these new truck when a 6.0 powerstroke can do everything you want it too
The 6.0 is awesome. However I can understand wanting a new truck. There will always be a 6.0 on this channel though
FORD4LIFE73 I still prefer he Lariat edition. Personal preference I guess
@@BrandonS55 hey nothing wrong with that I just wish they did an all black lariat that would have been sweet
As a proud 6.0 power stroke owner i have barely any problems with it
I bought my truck 8 years old then had an addition 7 years without issue. Mine was an early 04 so it was sold in 03. Started my build when a cylinder head cracked and have daily driven this thing for another year except now it turns out some pretty good power
Where do you live I'll come buy them.
I have an 05 f-250 still under 100,000 miles and don't like it can't wait to get rid of it.
Man I wish I made more money to buy that off you lol
Why don't you like it?
@@six0bros fuel mileage and reliability I've gone through four to five turbos in less than 2 years I've only put 40,000 miles on the truck sence I bought it. I've gone through one ficm and egr cooler and all this after it's been bulletproofed the intercooler upgraded the intake upgraded the exhaust upgraded
@@six0bros put in your name and you can have it
What has been happening with your turbos? A lot of times repeat turbo failures is caused by something else. Which would also effect fuel economy. I just did a couple videos on this recently ill get you a link
Obviously like you said they all have their issues but I have always been told the late model trucks are overall better than the early ones by my dad who has worked on many 6.0's in his career. In my opinion they all require about the same amount of work and cost to get them to be reliable and/or less prone to issues so just depends on what you want.
Also when it comes to the front end I personally like the late model look over the one that was on the new body 7.3 and early 6.0
I 100% prefer the later style front ends. I wish at the time I purchased my truck I could have bought an 05-07. I think as the years went on some mechanics started to figure out how the system worked and were able to perform better repairs. Such as realizing by the time the egr cooler failed the oil cooler was already toast. I do think every mechanic has their preferred style to work on. Truthfully I wish I could have the hybrid engine that has parts from late and early.
6.0 Bros you can swap the headlights, grill, and front bumpers, but it’s a job😂
I dont thjnn it's that bad to do. Pulling the front face of these trucks apart is pretty simple. Now swapping to the 05 axle like I'm about to that seems like a little more work lol.
6.0 Bros yea, I have a ‘93 that I want to swap, but I’m going to find a 05-07 just because of the stories I’ve heard. Then I’ll have a 6.0, have coil springs, and have updated interior, and also 4X4
I do like the updated coil springs and inside. Those are the right reasons to buy an 05-07
I’m looking for 6.0, but a dumper version, are they stronger than the personal model?
No changes between the 2. Other than I believe the 550 has different tuning
I read these comments about people that love the 6.0 and im shocked. I guess we just got 2 that were bad apples. My dad bought a 05 king ranch and has sat more than run(150,000 mileapprox). In the shop now. I had a 250 and as soon as it started having problems I sold it and never regretted the decision. We are trying to figure out what to do to my dads truck because it is never dependable enough to go anywhere with it. This time it just shut off as it was driving down the road. it would crank back up idle but run rough when over idle. Im telling him to sell it ASAp but he won't get anything for it as is. Any advise? Its hard to find a mechanic that knows what they are doing with a 6.0
Hey I am happy to help man. The 6.0 is a great engine you really just need someone that understands them. So if I understand correctly the truck runs rough and shuts off when the truck is warmed up? Do you have the ability to read engine information? If not there are cheap ways to do it. Most of the running rough and no start issues can be found through reading the following parameters. Injection control pressure, injector pressure regulator, fuel injector control module voltage, battery voltage, and sync, cam/crank sync,
I'll refer to those in the abbreviated form, icp, ipr, ficm. Basically I need to know those numbers while cranking engine over, idle both cold and hot.
For things to read information torque pro for android is like 5 bucks plus a blue tooth obd2 adapter which I'll get you a link for. Forscan I believe is for both android and apple and will he helpful as well
Here is an affiliate link to one of the bluetooth devices I was talking about. There are better ones that are more expensive but I have excellent luck with this model amzn.to/3dUXoOQ
I have done everything to that truck but studs I don't think I'm going to do it till it starts using coolant water pumps pretty much only thing I haven't replaced I'm thinking I probably should after I had oil get in the coolant from an oil cooler failure the filtration system seems to be keeping what little is left over out
I would wait to stud until they go out. My water pump at 180k was perfectly fine. Looked next to new
@@six0bros I'll probably just wait thanks for the quick response
No problem
Buy a 6.0 truck. Remove 6.0 and install 6.7. Best "bulletproof" mod ever. All jokes aside, 6.0s are decent once several upgrades are done.
Thats funny haha. Yeah I agree man that would be sweet
Better yet put the nice old 7.3.
No replacement for displacement
I am currently driving my dad's 7.3 so I do have some love for it, but in performance the 7.3 while an amazing engine especially for its time just isn't able to really keep up anymore with 15 and newer 6.7 I think an argument could be made for an 11-14 6.7 if the 7.3 was upgraded but modern tech man has made our 6.0s and 7.3s not really able to keep up. All that said I could run my 6.0 a little harder towing my camper then my stock 6.7 I never got to tow once I had done some exhaust work on my 6.7
@@six0bros something to be said about going 500k 700k miles with no major problems though. I've got a 95 powersmoke at 307k only issue is the e40d tranny.
Currently at 273k miles dailying a sct 85hp street tune on stock headbolts. Take care of these trucks and they’ll take care of you
nice man. any major issues along the way? I got to 180k before a cracked head which was mostly just a 40 hp tow tune.
I own Heavy Diesel Repair Shop. I also own 4 6.0's. Each of them All have had their own different issues... Here is the trick to prolong the life of your 6.0
DO NOT OVER BOOST A STOCK 6.0 you will blow head gaskets.
change oil and filters every 8500 miles
keep the batteries charged
Pour 1 Quart of Auto Transmission Fluid into your fuel every other tank full.
Oh keep the Body and Frame clean and treat both frame and undercarriage with an anti corrosion coating. They won't burn out before they RUST.....
03- F350 , 04 F-250 , 05 Excursion , 05 Excursion
NOTE: There is not 1 diesel engine on the market that is issue free....They all have their ISSUES.
I agree here. I will say I try to be more in the 5-6,000 mile oil and filter change, and I use archoil in my fuel. I ran a 40hp tow tune for over 100k miles on my 6.0 it did eventually cracked a cylinder head but the truck had over 180k miles at that point with lots of towing and primarily a daily driver. I agree can't run a race tune on a stock 6.0 and not expect to break something. I also agree all diesels have their issues they are high performance engines stuff will break or you will have issues here and there. Thanks for the great comment man
@@six0bros Great Video and Channel
Thanks brother. We have some big changes coming very soon. It's been hard while doing school plus working 40-64 hours a week lol
@@six0bros I feel your pain. Just an FYI it doesn't get any easier as you get older. I have never worked so hard in my life. I work literally an average of about 100 + hours a week. The demand for my knowledge and service never ends. Red Lion Heavy Truck & Auto. Feel free to look us up Google Search.
Crazy part is I am a Retired Cop, What was I thinking UGH..
Thanks for your service as a cop. Where were you a cop at? What mad?e you switch to working on diesels
I have a 04.5 with older style hpop but newer style oil rails and icp on valve cover, what should I look into for updating?? I updated blue spring, dummy plug, stand off pipe, ipr screen is there anything I'm missing?
Sounds like you got the big ones man. I would just make sure to monitor ficm voltage, battery voltage, fuel pressure, ipr, and icp v.
@@six0bros ok kinda what I thought thank you 🤘🏻👌
Anytime man
I think whichever version you have is just fine. With that being said I love my 05 6.0
I agree. I just see a lot of questions about it and a lot of people say the late years are better over the early years. Truthfully I do not feel any year is superior in terms of reliability. I do really wish I had a late model for the coil springs
Mm:
Mine just rolled 210k getting ready to take it out West for a hunting trip need to do some stuff. Have you had any problems with wiring harnesses? I beefed up all the guarding on corners or anything it would rub
I haven't had any harness issues but I have heard of them happening
Battery connections need looking after
I have a 06 f350. Got it used not too long ago. 165k and I’m saving to bulletproof and upgrade. Been watching a ton of videos when I came across this channel. Thanks for the content. I’d love to see more towing videos cuz that’s why I purchased mine. Which parts are important to buy from bulletproof diesel and which ones can I get by with factory? So far from bulletproof it sound like the oil cooler and ficm are necessities? Thanks for the in depth content bro
I have some videos towing and talking about my setup. I am actually going to be talking about towing specific mods in the near future on my brothers truck. I want to say I do not feel that the bpd products are the only great option out there. Maybe I'll go a ficm video in the near future talking about options. In the meantime consider ficmrepair.com
6.0 Bros right on. I’ve seen a number of your videos and you’ve got a subscriber out of me. Please explain what you mean about bpd parts? If there are ways around that do tell. Thx for responding
Bpd has excellent parts do not get me wrong. However I am a big fan of options. I think competition helps keep everyone working hard to be the best. So while bpd (bullet proof diesel) has great stuff there are also other companies doing great work as well. Ficmrepair.com is one of those guys for ficms. My brother who has the grey truck on the channel he has bpd relocation kit for the oil cooler while I have decided to keep it in the factory location.
6.0 Bros gotcha. So you have a factory ford oil cooler? What about the water pump?
Early year 6.0s cylinder heads are thinner than later years.. great video! I have a 04
Thank you very much man. I appreciate it
I have an 06 (stock) and just scored a really clean bulletproofed 05 lariat for 3k 😁. Does have a bad injector but that's an excuse for bigger ones.
Nice man 3k isn't bad. I'm excited to get my 04 back. Really pushing to get it toen down
@@six0bros that's awsome! I'm really excited! Comes with a brand new thunderstruck and also has some Mishimoto upgrades too 🤑
Nice man sounds like a good buy
Did you have to change rockerbox or anything when you installed the kill devil heads i have a early 04 same oil rail as yours and want to buy those heads
No I did not. He sells heads for each of the different rocker boxes
Interesting I know this is old but have to reply, My 03/03 has been rock solid had it 9 years 1- HPOP and 1 injector, 204K Miles, SCT Tuned and original heads and Trans. Would like a newer tuck but I can't make myself buy 6.7 still not a fan.
I love my 6.7 powerstroke! But I also really love my 6.0. I can say my 6.0 makes me happy and I dont need the 6.7 but I want to go a little faster on my 6.0 so the 6.7 was a good choice. My 6.0 has been incredibly reliable. A great truck honestly
My 01/03 has 342k with no work being done and still going strong. Being a first month truck still going today it must have been built on a Wednesday lol.
Lol built on Wednesday. That's awesome though I made it to 180k without major repair
Does anyone have a reference for a complete bulletproofing kit for the early 6.0. My HPOP failed and I thought it’s a good excuse to bulletproof the engine?
I have a January 2003 f250 6.0 with 342,XXX miles completely stock, it hasn't had head gaskets, a turbo, egr. It's entirely factory and I drive it every day still getting 18-20 mpg.
That's great
Just bought my first 6.0 powerstroke. I've had many 7.3's but this is my first 6.0.
It's a 2006 Ford F-350 super duty XL crew cab rear wheel drive wish it was four wheel drive. I picked it up for $1,050. I have changed the water pump cuz the bearings were squealing a bit and changed out the hose connected to the map sensor cuz when I pick the truck up it was gutless and the turbo wouldn't spool up so I looked into it and took a look at the map sensor hose and noticed there was a crack in it so I changed it out and it corrected my issue with that having low power and the turbo not spooling up. I've still got to change out an idler pulley that has a bad bearing and I'm getting a code of P0273 for the cylinder 5 injector circuit low but not sure if it's just an intermittent things or what because it does seem to run pretty well now that I change that hose out going to the map sensor. I do also have a code of P0401 which says EGR flow insufficient detected but it doesn't seem like there's a problem with the EGR as it seems to run fine and I don't have any white smoke at all. I'll probably pull the EGR valve and clean it anyway. The last thing I've got on it is a bad wheel speed sensor on the front passenger side so I'll be changing that as well.
Some of these issues may have been related to the bad hose which was connected to the map sensor however I'm not sure as I don't have experience with the 6.0. All the codes were pulled prior to the swap out of that hose. I reset the check engine light when replacing the hose and it did come back on however I haven't run the codes again to see what they show up as. Wish me luck.
Heck for only paying $1,050 I could still put a few thousand dollars into it and be fine.
Man sounds like you got a steal on that truck! Heck if you wanted to do a 4wd swap it wouldnt take a whole lot to get it done if you went with a manual transfer case. All you do is swap tail housings on the transmission front axle and front driveshaft. It's a few more parts than that but probably for 2 grand you would have what you need. Anyway, the low circuit to your injector could be a few things. I would first give the connections in the back of the ficm a good press in and make sure they are tight. In my experience low circuit codes tend to stem from the ficm or the ficm wiring harness. So that is where I would check. The egr insufficient flow very well could be from a blocked off egr cooler. The previous owner may have welded it shut. Wont hurt anything if it is. However I would make an attempt at verifying that that is what's going on. I have never seen a 6.0 egr cooler block up with soot but it could happen.
P0401- EGR low flow is tripped when the EGR is commanded open with no corresponding rise in temperature from IAT2. If the valve isn’t installed and working or the EGR cooler is deleted or blocked you will get this code also. IAT2 can have an issue of getting really sooted up and getting slow to respond. Could just need cleaning.
what do you guys think of the 2003 6.0. I'm looking at buying one I could probably get it for $1500 with 213K on it.
The white truck on the channel has an 03 engine in it. The early 04s had the same engine as the 03s. They are good. If the truck is what you're looking for I would buy it
6.0 Bros. OK what are some common problems?
@@samuelparkinson5455 High pressure pumps, Glow plugs, Head Gaskets, Exhaust Gaskets, Some Injection problems, Oil Leaks,
@@samuelparkinson5455 Watch the Video, it will line you out on all the stuff that needs upgrading
Ken Uber. I ended up buying a 2001 7.3l with 291,000 on it.
Just got my 6.0 out of the shop, had 250k to start. New motor(due to piston damage), kc stage 1 turbo, egr delete, Bulletproof Diesel kit, new 6 speed trans. Have had no issues. After 10k miles.
6 speed trans? Who built the engine for you?
@@six0bros choate. 6speed manual.
I forgot about the manual lol. I was thinking how the heck did he hook up a 6 speed auto to it haha
I love the late models - but mainly just for the 20" factory wheels you can get. I took advantage of the misinformation about the early ones. Got a killer deal on an 03, bought some used 06 20" wheels, put studs, new HPOP, oil cooler and a mild tune. More planned, but it's been a great truck.
Did you need to run spacers on those wheels?
@@six0bros Yepp, got some 2" steel spacers on there to compensate for the different offset of the 05+.
Another great vid, I'm a fan! I will also support your channel on amazon. Do you have those sweatshirts for sale?
First I want to say thank you. Sweatshirts should be up for sale next week.
@@six0bros awesome! I havent found a channel that explained things the way you do. Super easy to understand for the layman, and great info, thanks again! Where arw you located? I'm in philadelphia area, and new to diesels.
@@ojmcbaggins Lancaster area so pretty close
@@six0bros oh wow! I thought you might have been more north! I'm in valley forge
@@ojmcbaggins nice man you're pretty close brother
Great information, I learned quite a few things from this video 👍
Thanks man! How is that 7.3 doing ready to slap some injectors in it lol
6.0 Bros lol the 7.3 is always ready for injectors. The 4r100 is a bit tired at the moment, would be a good way to finish it off though haha
Let's get a junk pair if tires cram bigger injectors in it and do a burnout competition with the junk set of wheels and tires lol
6.0 Bros I have a set of tires we can use! 😂
Once this transmission is built I'll be on my way out. I know my transmission wont survive lol
if both the later and earlier models were bullet proofed (everything) is there any other major reason to pick 1 over the other
The only reason in my opinion to pick one over the over is the suspension on the later years is better. Other than that it is just personal preference they are both the level of reliability
@@six0bros I wouldn't say better, while the coil front does turn much sharper it wheel hops like crazy vs the leaf spring truck that plants the wheels and goes.
@@SMiller5488 I have leaf springs on my white truck and I would say after driving a newer suspension setup it is overall an upgrade. That said I have driven the newer setup with as much power as my 6.0 so maybe I would feel differently if I did
2005 excursion 6.0 fully bulletproofed with KC stage 2 turbo, SCT custom looney tune 190/30% performance injectors with upgraded fuel pump, s&b intake with 4” straight Borla exhaust w/ 6” blackmatte tip! I eat duramax’s all day for lunch Cummins for super🤨#sleepergetsome
Trey Miller Nice. Any footage of your rig?
CellSelassie 39.no, once I get my new wheels n tires in “ hopefully this week” I will post a walk around, thanks I normally don’t comment on TH-cam but I’m a 6.0 LOVER
That is a awesome setup man. I cannot wait to upgrade my injectors to the same size as yours.
Trey Miller I’m a diehard Chevy guy but I’m appreciating fords now since I just got one. Nothing compares to the sound of the 6.0
CellSelassie 39 nothing wrong with the Chevy, all in good fun, that 6.0 whistle tho...😁
2006 f350 purchase new has 80k had to replace degas bottle at 60k and I just started using a torque pro a few months ago and noticed the ficm was low high 30s to 45 after warm up so I just replaced the ficm now I have 48+ volts. Everything else stock. Now I'm worried about the oil cooler the oil temp is about 10 degrees higher than the coolant without towing with 50 degrees outside temp I'm thinking with summer weather and towing that it would get to hot and blow the egr cooler, heads or the oil cooler?
Get the truck up to operating temp. Then cruising the flattest stretch of highway you can at 65mph if you did this a 10 degree difference is fine
2006 6.0 ❤👊
Eugene Redsteer yes
Just got mine 2 weeks ago lariat 👌🏼
Yes sir
What about the 2008-2010 6.0's that continued on the econolines?
I love my early 04 ...beautiful after swallowing some $$$ of course , all the usuals witha brand new HPOP and now keeping Her and just got an 06 ...so i can have both and experience with them
The 05-07 is the best looking powerstroke overall in my opinion, and they are tough as nails once you take care of the weak points.
The 05-07 trucks still look current. They are definitely killer. With a few changes on the 99-04 they can still look current as well.
Are the early 6.0’s quieter than the Later ones?
So they actually are but it is only because they have a heat wrap type material around the exhaust off the turbo for thr whole down pipe. So you could do the same on the later models if you wanted
But if you put an aftermarket exhaust each year will sound very similar
03 hands down best turbo there is
Yup I love the 03 turbos
Chis Keller I prefer the 05-07 because of the change to the engine, but the 03 and 04 turbo sound is awesome. 05-07 aren’t that bad either.
Chis Keller my pops 2004 6.0 turbo went out at 300,000
That's killer mileage out of a vgt turbo
Going to look at a 04 but the dudes says it leaks oil from where he thinks is the oil pan but only when it’s hot.. thoughts??
I would check the valley of the engine. Uou can also check the back of the engine from underneath to see if it is coming from the hood. Next inspect valve covers and see if it is leaking from the. AND down the engine. Last the bed plate and oil pan. Basically try and see how high on the engine it is. Could be a hpop cover that is leaking or could be bedplate or oil pan
The jasper installed is the same price as the warren by itself, around 3800
Ok that is pretty good. I do have a subscriber running one of theirs and he does like it. Most shops are around 500 ish to install so the Warren after tax comes to a good bit more. Plus you cant put a dollar amount in when you need a vehicle so I think you have made the right choice man
What all was involved in your headlight swap? Also do you have links to the parts needed?
Yes I can get you links to everything. I also have a video on the swap itself, and how to do it. Are you looking at doing the regular 05 headlights or are you looking at the halo headlights?
@@six0bros I am not sure. I just wanted to go with the projector lights like yours. The factory 03 headlights are like driving with lanterns.
Here is the first video on what is needed to get the 05 and newer headlights in then I'll get you the video on how I wired my projectors up.
th-cam.com/video/uXoWWc6QO7k/w-d-xo.html
Here is the video on how I wired my projectors up now they do have plug and play setups but I'll get you links to each
th-cam.com/video/kH-vzjbZ-NU/w-d-xo.html
I do like the later style front end.
Me too I'm a big fan
I have a 2003 and went aftermarket with the front end. Looks so much better
I have headlights and a raptor grille but that's it as far as cosmetic on the front. I think it looks great though.
What are the turbo differences
So there are 2 different compressor sides. The early years had a larger compressor wheel it was 59mm then the later style 05 turbos had a smaller 56mm wheel. On the turbine side the 03 and early 04s came with the larger 10 blade wheel that had a different vane profile and height than the later years. In late 04 they switched to a 13 blade wheel that had the same diameter inducer and exducer, but it wasn't as tall. Finally the late turbos had a smaller turbine wheel but kept the 13 blade wheel
My 05 was bittersweet, I still love it just wish I had learned more before I jumped in!
I thought about making a video on 6.0 problems and fixes. Do you think something like that would have been helpful
6.0 Bros I got lots of information from powerstroke help and SDS over the years, but yes I feel you could help newbies with what will more than likely be their first foray into the diesel world as it was for myself, I’ve now turned my attention to the TDI world. I still have my f350 but she’s been parked for a while and I may need to just sell it for about 1500 to get it out my yard.
What's wrong with your truck?
If I come up on a big pile of money I’d keep it and drop a balls to the walls built 6.3 stoker in and a badass turbski,diff and trans setup! One can dream! Oh yeah add an any level lift too but modified to be able to pancake the truck for styling on fools!
6.0 Bros the usual, 2 bad injectors, more thank likely leaky or bad head gaskets, oil cooler, would probably need to do all dummy plugs and stand pipes too! Also has the sticky reverse solenoid. There’s probably more stuff but that’s what I can remember
Great video,
EGR deleted or not!? how can I find out?
New to 6.0 and I just bought a 2006 crew cab with 51K miles, it has dual exhaust pipes? runs great and I choose 05 - 07 just because of the front coil springs.
not towing anything at least yet just for camping /off road as a family vehicle.
I am always in favor of deleting if able to for "off road" use of course lol. But in all honesty from a reliability/power stand point there is little to no benefit to deleting provided there is an upgrade egr cooler in there that will stand up to the abuse these trucks see. Now that being said the factory one can be a weak link. If you run one I would just upgrade it and that will work very well.
@@six0bros Thanks my friend, an upgrade is a better options indeed. Deleting is always there as a back up option.
No excuse, I'm late 😂 awesome video brother! Very informative bud ! Happy to see someone finally do this 👊
I'm trying hopefully people enjoy the video