New Springfield Armory 1911 DS Prodigy : 2011 Rival?
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- The New Springfield Armory 1911 DS Prodigy is a Double Stacked 1911 with a polymer grip with 17+1 Mag capacity and based one the original 2011 STI Design. We appreciate Springfield Armory for supplying the Prodigy along with the Hex Dragonfly, Surefire X300 Ultra, Blackpoint Tactical Holster and Ronin Tactical Belt. Big thanks to Fiocchi USA for Supplying our ammunition!
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I haven’t seen your channel show up automatically on my feed in over 2 years. I always have to search for it. This is the first one. Smh.
@SOOTCH00 Imagine this with 10mm. for use with underwood ammo's XTREME ammo line.
bean wanting to purchase the 10mm Ronin. but now I'm gonna wait and pray they make a 10mm of the new DS line of 1911's.
Can that thumb safety be removed i like it with the grip safety
@sootch00 Any pro cons for the Hex Dragonfly coz im a bit confuse for its quality, maybe you could help me
I dig Springfield Armory. After I watched this I texted my dealer and told him I wanted one. He replied; just got one, come and get it.
Springfield has really stepped it up over the last couple of years and their pricing and promotions are a huge plus. Their competition better be taking notes.
SA has stepped up their import game... cause most of their stuff comes from Croatia.
Croatia guns are very good. Better guns than most.
Springfield Armory is a Leader in the Industry
Springfield has a history of using your hard earned money you use to purchase their product, of using the money to support and defend the politicians that strip your 2A rights. But keep funding those that hate you.
@@xunheilvsnipezx3324 want to go that route you're going to run out of options to by a gun from real fast.
I was lucky enough to pick one up yesterday a little under MSRP. This is my first foray into the 1911 world and it hasn’t disappointed so far. Left the store and stopped at the range where I fired 150 rounds through it. It is incredibly balanced and smooth shooting. I can shoot this gun as fast as I want without giving up much in accuracy. I’m very impressed with how soft and flat it shoots.
Awesome. I hope to get one soon
I got mine too with a red meprolight bullseye front sight, co witnessing my green Romeo zero optic, and blue laser beam co witnessing and 27 round magazine.
What!!!!!!yo first 1911.u must have gotten caught up in that polymer Striker Fired Hype .that squared up clunky looking black of a u know what.
6 months later. Do you still feel the same about it?
9 months later. Do you still feel the same about it?
Have a ronin, it runs great, excited to get one of these. For the money, hard to beat. Don't need to break the bank for a great firearm. Canik proves that.
Canik is now in the same price category as the other common manufacturers (Glock, CZ, SIG etc). At that price point I go with CZ or SIG depending on what I intend to use that particular gun for. And yes, I have several Caniks. Bought my first in 2016
What I love about your videos versus any others with similar guns is yours always include disassemblies. You don’t realize how helpful those are.
Springfield's 1911s have always worked well for me. This might help bring the overall price of 2011's down thanks to what I assume will be a reliable, budget friendly piece of competition.
I read $1400 for OR and $1700 w/ optic. I would say so
@@WN_Byers Pretty competitive price point!
@@WN_Byers, I got mine for $1,415, I think from Gunbroker
@@RonanTheAccuser92 stovepipe and misdeeds..
Great job, Springfield Armory! I think the 1911 DS Prodigy is amazing and I’m looking forward for more expansion for this
Good presentation and overview. Using a side view to capture Sootch’s first impressions was cool. Excellent review. All your vids are not just about functionality but also a gun’s “fit and feel”. Keep up the reviews.
Great review. I like how you understand that alot of people think this is alot of money and can't afford it. This is an option for me because of your review. Thanks and keep the videos going
Awesome review. Saw them up close this weekend at local gun store.
Oh the temptation!
If they offer this in 45 acp....ill grab for sure. Been looking for my first 1911 in 45 acp for my 45th birthday.
This is more of a 2011, Springfield has a bunch of 1911s available.
happy early 45th birthday to you man!
@@megaman010391 he is hoping for a 2011 in .45 acp.
@@JacksonWalter735 thank you
@@megaman010391 i hear u! its not the 1911 traditionally. The single stack is a main characteristic of the 1911. So yeah I shouldve addressed it that way. But i just meant in my hands at home with me it would be my 1911 lol. Because im actually all in to buy the emissary. but if springfield actually made the prodigy in 45 i would cancel my plans for the emissary right now.
Great review. Not sure why the algorithm has been keeping your videos from my feed, but it was good to see this one there waiting for my to watch!
Just picked up a 4.25”. Handles superbly and will force others (ahem, staccato, WC,etc.) to adjust prices. This is good for all involved.
You mean the Staccatos that are hand fit, come with a bombproof DLC coating, a flared extended magwell, a Dawson one piece guide rod, an extra mag, and are already known for being rock solid reliable and laser accurate? Don’t count on Staccato adjusting prices anytime soon.
@@jaytotheh they definitely aren't adjusting anything. They don't need to. I've been on a wait list to become a dealer for over a year. They can't keep up with demand.
@@jaytotheh if you don’t think these will eat into Staccato’s bottom line, I have news for you. My P DUO is great, buts it’s not worth a grand more. There are tons of people that want into the 2011 game and Springfield made it easier. Also, you do know it’s possible to acknowledge another product and simultaneously like another…right?
@@killerinst1ncz308
It’s definitely possible to acknowledge another product, and I didn’t say a single negative thing about the Prodigy. I love my Springfield TRP, and look forward to trying out the Prodigy. I welcome competition and innovation in the 2011 market.
But Staccato as of today has a 90-120 day wait time for the steel frame P. Not only that, it seems like the list of law enforcement agencies adopting Staccato as their approved and preferred firearm grows by the week. It’s over like 650+ agencies now?
Nobody's going to adjust their prices. This is a lower quality version of those other manufacturers.
Looks like a Staccato P. I picked up a C2 almost a month ago & 800 rds in it is absolutely amazing. Would love to try the Prodigy.
I owned a Staccato & found it to be an exceptional firearm. I look forward to shooting this. Thank you
All I am going to say is that I would rather watch YOUR gun review videos than any other on TH-cam. Been watching your channel for many years, and you always seem to get it right. Thank you for what you do sootch00.
He’s a corporate reviewer when he starts being honest with bad in production guns that’ll elevate his channel but remove his freebies from companies also many guys just want their purchase reaffirmed and he always does that it’s a $1500 gun with reliability issues, unacceptable.
Another excellent video. This new addition from Springfield is spectacular!
Thanks Oren! I'm looking forward to more models of the 1911 DS.
Now that the Prodigy is available in 9 I’m looking forward to the AOL(40SW), DSL (357Sig) , Compuserve(10mm) , MixTape(380) and the Carrier Pigeon (45ACP).
Underrated comment. 😂
I'm certainly ready to take a carrier pigeon home
*slow claps*
Wow! I would definitely like that in a 45 DA with a 13 round mag ✌️
I actually almost started searching for these models.... hahahaha. Nice one.
Take down is just like the AF1911, probably one of the most beautiful 1911's I've ever seen. But this DS piece looks amazing. Very nicely done, Springfield.
I saw one of these at a gun show yesterday and when I picked it up, I instantly loved it more than the Staccato because of the grip texture alone. It's one of the few handguns that gets the texture just right.
I will never buy a Springfield gun..... Screw that company!
Another great review. There are seriously few things more fun than shooting a 9mm steel Limited gun. The only issue as a competition gun is that in USPSA it currently only can compete with the dot in Open or without the dot in Limited. Both of these have major/minor scoring and this gun in minor will be fun, but a challenge if you care how you finish. I do think it will fit well in IDPA though.
Huge fan of the channel. I bought my Springfield Prodigy 4.25” just a few weeks ago and have right around 400 rounds through it. Where do I start, the optic it came with wouldn’t hold zero sent it back to Springfield and have never heard back from them. I bought this gun with my own money $1500 and I love the design, but I’ve had way way to many problems. Be glad you got one directly from Springfield Armory cause I’m a 100% sure they’ve tuned it up for you. In the video you said no failure to feed and no problems, that’s great. Mine has jammed so so many times I’ve lost count. Failure to feed, the slide going back into battery super slow, so I cleaned it up and oiled it good it had this jet black oil in it like motor oil that came out of it. So cleaned it up lube it up with the Lucas Extreme Gun Oil which is what I used on all my firearms, bought the RMR plate from Springfield and put a Holosun 507C X2 now I’m into the gun right at $2000 took it back out on the range jam after jam, failed to extract, the slide was super slow between shooting rounds. I’m disappointed cause I’m a Springfield Armory 1911 fan, and I love the design of my Prodigy, but I wouldn’t trust it with my life. I have a Sig Sauer X Five Legion got right at 500 rounds through it it ate everything I put through it without the first failure. I bought the Prodigy to replace the X Five Legion cause it’s a huge gun, big bulky grip. I have to say I’m disappointed in
my Prodigy’s performance so far. So I cleaned it again and have yet to shoot it anymore, because they say the break in period of a 1911 is 500 rounds so I’m 100 rounds away from being broke in. But for the money this Prodigy should’ve preformed like the $900 Sig X Five Legion flawlessly, but it didn’t.
So many issues are caused by the shoddy cerakote job. I’d keep racking the fker over and over again to get that cerakote off. That’s all the black crap you see. These big TH-camrs get polished ones. Rack and clean.
Had a lot of feeding issues, almost got rid of it. got new mags, no more issues so far
This weapon is very very nice .Springfield has really done a wonderful job.i hope to get one of these soon..thank you so much for this competent and thorough review ! Much appreciated as always
Thanks Sootch. Now I have another gun that I have to get. I've been reluctant about the 2011 style. But, I'm sold on this one. That thing is amazing.
Really good review, thanks so much for showing us all about this pistol.👍
Have mercy, I'm there! Commander size , I'm there. When the lightweight Commander style (please!) comes out, I'm doubly there!
Excellent review. Thanks, going to be my next purchase.
Same trigger pull weight as my EDC CCW tp9 Elite SC, 4 lbs. pull and actually similar reset distance an I can’t say enough about how much I LOVE the trigger on that gun. Super smooth & fast. (due also to the fact that the Canik Elite sc has nickel coated internal trigger parts) Super Stoked for a 2011 I can actually afford to own an not be afraid to enjoy it
I just bought one today. I have the Staccato P Duo as well. The fit on the Prodigy is impressive. Everything is super tight. No wobble in the frame AT ALL. Barrel lock up is also fantastic. Handling the two side by side it is really hard to tell the difference. Going to the range tomorrow,..will see how well it shoots compared to the Staccato.
Steven Jeffrey Please report back! Interested in results.
@@HaleFire7 Alright. Went to the range today, I had to zero the Hex Dragonfly and I use a "rest" to shoot off of around 13 yards. Once zeroed I shot a couple groups off of the rest at that distance and had groups of five holes all touching. Shot without the rest and had very nice, small groups, at least as good as the 2011 (Staccato). As far as shootability, I could hardly tell the difference between the Prodigy and the 2011. Shot close to 100 rounds and not one malfunction of any kind, I have never had any with the 2011 either. I cleaned it and oiled it last night,...I oiled it kinda heavy and the only complaint I had was that the oil was shooting up out of the "round in chamber indicator" onto the red dot lens, so I won't be oiling it "wet" again, lol. It feels great in the hand, and it does not "need" a magwell, but I do like the feel of the magwell on the 2011. I think if a magwell becomes available I will put one on it. I don't care for the two piece guide rod, and I am considering buying a "toolless guide rod" on the Staccato website to add to the Prodigy, it's about $100, but I can live with that. The 2011 came with a VERY nice range type soft case, the "case" the Prodigy came with is too small to use with the red dot on it, especially with the extended mag (not really a big deal). So, to summarize, I honestly think that the 2011 was not worth the money I spent on it, ESPECIALLY after shooting the Prodigy. I wouldn't sell the 2011 though, I enjoy having it, but had I known then what I know now, I would have gotten the Prodigy in the 5 inch AND the 4.25 instead of buying the Staccato. Maybe the Staccato will wear better and last longer, I like that it has the DLC finish, I think that finish is more durable than the Prodigy, but time will tell. If you have any other questions feel free to ask. And as an aside,..my favorite 2011 style that I have currently is the Bul Armory SAS II Ultralight.
Let us know for sure
@@stevenjeffrey4637 awesome. SA has extensive experience building 1911 style guns and it looks like they went all in on this prodigy.
@@stevenjeffrey4637 I’m considering the DS the EMP and the SAS UL ii. Currently own the Wilson Combat EDC X9 and SFX9. That DS looks impressive. The EMP is beautiful. The SAS seems like a Goldilocks EDC. What to do, what to do.
Very impressive and good looking 1911. Thanks for sharing 👍🏼
Thanks for the excellent reviews. Always solid content.
I have a 1911 45acp 5 inch garrison and love it.., I've always wanted 2011 9mm and looked at the staccato but man. Looks like a fantastic firearm but for 2k... it's a little steep for us regular guys. So for 1500 its definitely a great price point. As always great videos 👌. Time to add this prodigy to my collection.
It is certainly a BEAUTY but it's also a BIG MONSTER. This one is a SERVICE PISTOL which isn't going to be an IWB Concealed carry gun but that's ok too.
The upper has bull barrel 1911 compatible parts, however the lower is all Sti/staccato compatible, including the compatibility with Staccato mags
Great job on the vid, Sootch! It would have been nice to have included a few of Robbie’s comments about the gun. Also another Con could be the disassembly. Not a Dal breaker, but definitely different and would take some getting accustomed to.
I could see from the look in Sootch00's eyes that this one was going to be a keeper...........and not a safe queen either 😉
I think Springfield Armory did a good job with this “prodigy”,it is double stack,price is right,the quality is top notch that can compete with other 2011’s.Like Sootch always saying “that we are now living in the golden era of firearms”..!
Waiting for your review of the new s&w m&p 2.0 metal..!watching from 🇵🇭
I'd love to get one of the 2.0 Metal M&Ps. So many great choices out there. Thanks Arlan
@@sootch00 I'd like to see that review. Include if the mags are interchangeable with the polymer versions.
Thank you, Scooty. always providing great videos .Let me tell you, i haven't stopped using my Springfield armory prodigy .. is a very solid pistol 💥🙌🏼💥 for the price i feel is very fair price for what you are getting for. Wish it was .45acp like my springfield armory garrison. But no complaints at all is different, but in my opinion is going into right direction. Thank you
I picked one up sat...freaking love it ...right there with staccato...
Fantastic and comprehensive review as always 💪🏼🇺🇸
Awesome Video! Great break down of the gun! Love Springfield Armory!! I may have to break down and buy my first 9mm..ouch! I have 3 Springfield Armory 1911s 2 45s and an amazing 10mm Operator TRP🤗🤗 This would be a great addition 👌🏻👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻
That's a beast of a Pistol. The rapid fire looked like a jackhammer... guess it's hammer time 😁.
That 10mm stole the show when you entered it into the picture...exquisite.
Really nice gun there sootch00 thanks for the review and sharing
Hey Soocht! I am a Springfield Armory fan! Love your reviews on everything you do! SA just came out with a 9 mm carbine on a AR type platform. I along with others would surely love to see a review on it.😊
Springfield has always been top notch at a great price. 👍🏾
That's right I have 3 from 98 and 2000 that still runs flawless I just upgrade the mags to Willson combat 8 and 10 round
Thanks for the review! I always enjoy yours.
I am fortunate to have Several Nighthawks, two staccatos, a Wilson and an Atlas Athena.
This is a Staccato P clone. Same is the way that the hellcat was the derivative of the p365. As an entry-level gun in this category it’s hard to beat the price. Having looked at multiple reviews of this, there are reliability issues that probably will be worked out over time. A 1911 trigger is better than almost anything else there is but as 1911 triggers go, its okay. The edges of some of the parts don’t look so smooth and the grip module looks kind of cheap. It would be great to have a magwell. The takedown is mildly annoying but probably less so than finding a paper clip like i do on my Nighthawks and my Athena.
I personally would re stipple the grip to a more aggressive texture, smooth the edges and immediately get a trigger job to get it down in pull and reset. Mine are tuned into the around 2 lb range with the Atlas at 1 1/4 pounds from the factory. This is not for newer 1911 shooters. Then it would compete with the higher end guns on performance at a much lower price point. I am very experienced with 1911/2011 triggers so I like them this light but for new 1911 people 3 to 3 1/2 would be great.
I will admit that i am comparing to high and very high end custom 1911/2011s. Probably not fair. On its own, It looks like a great entry level 2011. Wise consumers will upgrade a few thing and stop there. It only gets significantly more expensive. You have been warned. 😀
One I checked had more like a 5.5 pound trigger... I decided to pass on it because of it and a few other things you mentioned...
@@ninjadave1970 5.5 no way might as well buy a Glock
I'm actually really excited about this new Springfield series of pistols! Time will tell if they live up to the hype, but they are certainly an epic contender in today's pistol market that will continue to be if durability and reliability are both sustained long-term.
Picked mine of from the LGS today, range day tomorrow.
Good review. I was lucky enough to win a Prodigy during the Unlock Greatness promo!!! Really looking forward to getting to the range!!
Did you shoot it yet?
I want to move to the USA 🇺🇸 for this. You so lucky to be able to carry/CCW.
I’ve always like Springfield. Not surprised they dropped this bad boy. I’m game!
Springfield Armory is a Leader in the Industry
You can see how happy Scooth is lol! Hey it must be a good gun
It seems a lot of people are having problems out of their gun every one says won't feed its there mags there outta spec I tuned mine and I use my staccato mags the gen 3 mags 20 rounders I have not had any problems outta mine though I love this gun it's a nail driver.
Great review and awesome shooting.👍
Looking VERY good! Thanks for the vid, sir. Appreciate it a lot.
Greets, T.
Thanks for watching Tonny!
Your videos are thorough. I like that very much. At $1500 plus, this particular pistol is out of my league regardless of quality. Thanks again.
That's just MSRP. Street price would be closer to $1000 maybe less if you shop around
@@angryGTS My Govt. model still does the job. Most everything is a clone of the 1911.
@@angryGTS i feel like so many people will buy these that it will stay close to the MSRP price
Got mine on layaway now and I can't wait. Great video
AWESOME!!! Thanks for sharing this with us.
Thanks for stopping by Ed!
@@sootch00 you are welcome. Keep up the great work.
So many spares))))) Sanks for video 👍👍👍
Just bought the Walther Pdp as my new duty pistol and now this?! Gonna have to put the Walther in the safe and work some overtime for this beast.
Great vid Sootch!!; I've been a loyal fan of 1.911 platform for over 3 decades now. I'm wondering if we'll see that Springfield in 10mm AND .38 Super, (Specially for us 'Old School Competitors'). Many thanks & Blessings!.. 😊🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏
Great review and guide!
A Compact/Carry variant is going to be huge. Bet we’ll see another release soon.
Nice looking gun an sewing that I don't have a 1911 in my collection yet
But do have a couple of good 45s in my collection probably will save up for this one
Great review, great gun! Nice to have!
Amazing looking gun!
Wish someone would make one around the same size as the p365xl or macro. The grip on those are perfect. That grip with 1911 function would be my every day carry.
Gotta get one..love it
Aren't many people reporting FTF's due to the cerakote, roughness, and weak recoil spring?
Great Video Don
Thanks Kevon!
Man, I really want this, but that Emissary is also calling my name. Decisions, decisions.
I've been looking at springfields website trying to decide between a trp or a garrison now they throw this in the mix. I've wanted a 2011 for a while they have just been too pricey but this price doesn't look too bad. Thanks sootch.
Thanks for stopping by Matt!
My first is a springfield xd 40.Still going strong and I have a kit for it💯I'm partial to the brand.this is the next one.,🇺🇲🗽💙
I think it's fantastic. Reilly put together well. Good review sootch. 👍
Great video thank you sir!
Great video Sir! 👌🏻
Great review, makes me want one!
Interesting. Of course the market comes out with tons of options AFTER i get my staccato p duo
Staccato is superior to this
@@carloshipolito9326 We will see,..I just bought one today. I have the Staccato P Duo as well. The fit on the Prodigy is impressive. Everything is super tight. No wobble in the frame AT ALL. Barrel lock up is also fantastic. Handling the two side by side it is really hard to tell the difference. Going to the range tomorrow,..will see how well it shoots compared to the Staccato.
My Staccato P is awesome! I am intrigued w this new 2011ish, lol
This will be my new gun
TOTALLY Agree, I too have been drooling for years of the $3000 - $7000 “2011’s” !!!! 😳😨😱😰😥🤢🤮 i.e. Staccato & others. Just WWAAYYYY out of my $$$ range. SUPER Stoked over Springfield’s “affordable” version. DEFINITELY going to cop one as soon as I can get my hands on one. And will be Excitedly waiting on the .45 ACP i 🤞🏼hope, hope, hope 🤞🏼 is coming. ✌🏼
Looks awesome👍👍👍
That bump in the night reason for a 1700 pistol is insane lol
Great review on a pricey firearm enjoyed the video
I assembled a CZ Shadow target frame with the CZ Shadow bull slide. Fcg has been modified for a super short reset. My CZ will be very comparable to the Springfield 1911 ds except with no grip safety. I still want that Springfield tho 🥺
All the guys at the club running STI’s are big mad about this thing. I can’t wait to get my hands on one.
I bought one a month ago. It failed miserably out of the box, but this was due to break in. It takes almost 400-500 rounds before it ran 100%. A few things that happened with mine. Rear sight screw came loose, followed by the screws holding the optic plate cover, which the rear sight is mounted on. The fiver optic rod flew out in the first two hundred rounds. So, lock rite and order some spare optic rods .060 and you’ll be fine after break in. I also noticed the two piece guide rod loosens up as you shoot, so check it periodically. None of this happened on any other platform I own. It’s a legacy platform so I get it.
How does it currently run? Is it the 5 inch model?
They need to make these modular where you can change the grip/"lower" and slide/"upper to what you like. I thought Bul was going to do this but I haven't seen it come to fruition.
Really sweet 1911!
As always great video keep them coming Brother by the way what is the trigger pull
Excelent review, very objective, considering there is a premium market for Staccato and Nighthawk which are way expensive
I had great hopes for the SA-35, but they never came to local gun stores. Likewise I wonder if we will ever see a Prodigy in the wild.
Trust me when I say you didn't miss much with the sa35. Mine was a dumpster fire lol
I'll be back when they make one in 10mm
Looks great, especially for $1500! A couple hundred on a Ed Brown hammer and sear to take a couple pounds off the trigger pull weight and a flat trigger and this thing will be perfect!
Good job 👏 great review
Love the way that cerakote is holding up on the front serrations: Not 👎
I was holding off on buying a new springfield, with the number of recent discontinued models and the new emissary coming out which is somewhat of a step outside of typical boundaries for springfield, I had a funny feeling they were about to start releasing some new excitinc 1911's to fill out the lineup
Beautiful gun. Let's wait a year or two to see how it works.
If everyone thought that way they would stop making them because of lack of sales.
That’s impressive loving it really nice weapon for the price