Battle of the 5.7 Pistols: Ruger-57 vs PSA 57 Rock
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- We compare the Ruger-57 pistol with the Palmetto State Armory 57 Rock head to head. While these two looks similar, there are some major difference. Thanks to my Patreon Members for helping with the Ruger and for PSA for supplying the Rock. #PSArock #Ruger57 #57x28
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good review of both!
They keep hitting Honest Outlaw too! Funny how TH-cam makes no effort to find these Douchenozzles and prosecute them.... when theyre on Guntuber Channels. Weird, that.
Wait, what. I didn’t win ten gazillion dollars ?
they have been popping up in other youtube channels i follow both large and small using the channels profile pic, all posting links for whatsapp and telegram. the weirdest are the ones that post some random statement about how much money they are making with no context and then are followed by two equally fake accounts thanking them for the info.
@@randerson4124 I seen them on the TGC and MAC as well.
Just ordered a PSA Rock on sale for Christmas. Came with Holosun 407k optic, supressor height sights, threaded barrel and with a sniper green frame all for 600 bucks. So I'm happy with that purchase.
I just ordered the same thing on the same day!
@Jake Nieten Ayo!! 5.7 bros right here lol 😆
mine came in Monday. I got the FDE frame , ran 300 rounds through it today - so glad I picked one up - enjoy yours when it arrives !
@NCFXSTI damn. 300 rounds of 5.7, what a baller G 😅.
But that's awesome to know that they work. I'm sure to enjoy it. Thanks mate 😀
@@Gun_Talk if I hadn't ordered another 500 on Tuesday , I may have stopped sooner lol
5.7 is an amazing cartridge, just need more ammo manufacturers to make cheaper options for the range.
Supposedly psa is going to start making it
And more hot defense loads cheaper.
Is it true that this caliber can pierce armours?
@@joaopedrobaggio4475 yes but only the high power loads. There’s even steel core penatrators.
@@fredeschen3783 thanks for the information buddy.
I got a rock. Runs insanely well and just well built. They’re doing good things.
PSA has become my Second Favorite Gun Manufacturer. They and Taurus are in a Race to see who can get the most Guns into the hands of more new people in the shortest amount of time! Not a bad thing.
Btw... Just bought a New PSA AR-15 during their Labor Day Sale....
What ammo you running. American eagle seems to choke in mine
@@buttpirate57 I’ve run american through it, but mostly FN stuff
Just picked this up, I also own a FN5.7….I must say that the Rock feels and shoots better.
Mine has been 100% out of box, tested mostly with federal ammo.
This might be my new nightstand pistol!
Just got a 20" .308 from them really high quality and a good price. Wish I had known about them when they were selling stuff for $200-350
Astronomical demonstration on both gun. Thank you. Greatly appreciated.
The PSA rocks threaded barrel and optics ready slide for the low $599 can’t be beat
got my ruger 57 for $560 plus tax n shipping 🤣👍
@@mixedmarksman5873 cool holler when you buy the threaded barrel and optic cut for it and check back
@@jax2158 and the PSA is better. Size 15 clown shoes
@@jax2158 ruger comes optic ready and with better sights 🤣👌and seen a threaded barrel for under $200 too actually so I'll take my ruger any day best customer service in the country too👍 nothin against psa though
They have the Blem for $599 with 10 mags. The optic cut, threaded barrel, and suppressor height sights for $550. Really tempted on their bundle, the rock plus their ar for $850.
Yaaa the PSA rock for sure i love the accuracy and the lighter trigger pull for faster shots.
Going to be honest, going to get a Rock purely for the price. Especially with how expensive .57 ammo is right now.
It's coming down a bit, around .357 price now. Which, by the way, is pretty dang high yet. But the 5.7 has less than half the material cost, not sure how that works out.
I went with the Rock, and I really enjoyed it ar the range.. only issue I personally have with the 57 is ammo price and availability of hot ammo
I got 50 defensive rounds for 31$ a box
@@natjonestower3035 supply and demand
That's my dilemma rn although i just seem to like the look of the Ruger more bit the price of the psa is half the Ruger price.
PSA needs a carbine that uses the same mag as their pistol to keep up with Ruger!
I’m sure it’s just a matter of time. They’ll hopefully take what they’re hearing about what people wish Ruger did with theirs and apply it to the PSA offering.
PSA is a retailer not a gun manufacturer. In fact all of their guns are just trademarked clones. Trust me PSA is already winning, that's why they invested into private labeling firearms to compete with the "name brand" firearms. Simple business 101. If you know you know.
Technically they do. You can get an AR9 which takes the same Glock mags.
@@brianfischer5609 not in 5.7 though
The problem with the ruger carbine is the barrel is way too long IMHO for the round. The whole point of the 5.7 is it’s great with great velocity out of a short barrel. I’d ruger comes out with one in a shorter barrel, I’d buy it and use it as a cheek pistol.
I like PSA better, it just looks so much cleaner and streamlined.
Agree. Esthetics look good.
Ditto
Yeah but the Ruger is the better overall gun.
I’ve been a subscriber of yours for a long time. Consistently excellent videos, content and ideas. Keep up the great work.
Ive been watching sootch since he first appeared on nutnfancy in like 2011. lol
Great comparison of two newer 5.7 x 28 pistols !!! Keep up the good work, great video.
I like this style of video! Competing firearms head to head!
The cutout on the Ruger slide is just a lint trap, for people who plan on actually carrying this every day I would not want a cut out slide. The other thing to consider if you are a hand loader is that this cartridge requires a special coating on the case for it to feed and eject properly (I think more so for ejection purposes) and you have to wash them carefully and inspect the coating or you will get stuck cases, kind of a PITA to reload and expensive to buy all factory loads so this is a huge negative for any gun chambered in this round, that was the deal breaker for me.
Not to mention the staked primers to handle the high pressure! Common in military ammunition for a century, you simply _cannot_ stake primers in reloaded cases. This is why the best handloads for 5.7 FN start with pulling the bullet from American Eagle budget factory loads, and replacing the powder.
Actual military 5.7 FN is loaded optimized for a 10.5" barrel with an armor-piercing bullet--originally, a plastic-cored 28-grain with a copper-over-steel design getting 2,800 fps--designed to shoot flat and accurately, penetrate body armor or a helmet, and then dump all its energy quickly to maximize shock. Also, the low sectional density was advertised as reducing risk from stay bullets in an urban environment. Kills with body shots out to 200 meters, head shots through steel or kevlar helmets out to 300 meters, with the accuracy to do that; drops to the ground completely spent at 600 yards instead of (potentially) miles.
Commercial civilian-sale 5.7 FN ammo is jinxed, since it cannot over-pressure the direct-blowback carbine action despite having an extra eleven inches of barrel to burn powder in versus the five-inch pistols; the pistols have to work with ammo loaded with gunpowder with a burn-rate suitable to a carbine!
Get a heavier recoil-spring and some _very_ fast-burning powder, load with rifle bullets designed for .223 varminting (expands and mushrooms, rather than fragmenting, at the lower pistol velocity, where a 45-grain varmint bullet designed for .22 Bee or Hornet is likely to come fragment--same 2200-2400 velocity range), or make your own bullets with a swage for your loading press and some .22 LR cases.
Lint trap lol
Good review from the nicest guy on the internet. The Ruger has more travel in the trigger. That makes the Rock the winner. Great job.
Yea, I liked that PSA trigger.
Psastepping up to the plate I love my tricked out dagger my gf3 and all my ar parts I've bought from them over the years... now just need the akv the micro dagger and the rock
The PSA rock looks a lot like a Taurus TX22 !
Agreed. And that's a good thing, in my book...
I do not like that overly clunky rear sight on the Ruger. A real plus for the PSA is the ability to take a much greater variety of sights, and magazines that won't break your bank account. I definitely plan on getting the PSA.
Fiber optic is great outdoors, but love the white dot indoors
I’ve been looking at getting a Ruger 57 for awhile but the price and the availability of the ammo has kept me from getting it. Now with the Carbine being released, it’s become more intriguing
A carbine, damn ruger just trying to break me. The did a good job with the 10/22 takedown.
Dont waste your money on the ruger. Trash
@@Truthloveliberty the 10/22 got me already but I like them
I think the PSA Rock is a better design with the heavier barrel and much more robust chamber support. I like the look of the Ruger and the hammer fired action.
I think the PSA looks better. I don't like the look of the new Ruger pistols. The grip just looks weird.
the trigger difference is very small, i'd rather have a more durable barrel, thicker slide, helps reduce recoil slightly and its cheaper
i love PSA
Yea can tell when he is shooting it that it makes a difference
I've had a 57 for three years, and love that more companies are coming out with their own 5.7x28 firearms. Keep bringing these ammo prices down please! haha. It's a great round. Also my EDC until it gets too hot outside and I switch to a more compact EDC to match my lighter wear clothing.
its probably because FN's patent ran out
Judging from the numbers you said for the length of the barrel on the Ruger they might as well just went with a 5 inch barrel and spent less money on ink when printing cuz it's fewer characters than 4.97
Haha, considering all the promos and literature, I wonder exactly how much that might actually save. I know you’re probably just being facetious, but I bet it’s a calculable sum.
@@jackjohnson291 well in the United States we refer Toyotas as Toyotas but the owner of the company is named Toyoda and the reason why he calls his car company Toyota is because in the Japanese language is one less character which means the signs are cheaper to make
If the prices for 5.7 ammo comes down and more readily available I'd pick up both the Rock and the Rugar 5.7 Carbine. Sadly both those reasons keep me from being able to hop on the 5.7 train 😔
Until the prices drop substantially on 5.7 ammo, it’s a pass for me. Just doesn’t have that much of an advantage over the 9mm to justify such a steep price. You literally find 5.56mm ammo for cheaper!
youve obviously never shot one or seen ballistics.
indeed muh brudda
50 cents a round brotha, same as 5.56
@@swattimmy I can read
Yep, I don't have the need to put a gun on the shelf due to no ammo. So it remains 45 acp & 9mm for me.
Very in-depth review of the 5.7's I have the PSA 5.7 Rock with the threaded barrel and with the Holosun 507K red dot.This PSA is a dream to shoot
I love how PSA puts a grip pad above the trigger guard where you rest your index finger and thumb. I tried that with some extra Talon grip I had and it feels great.
I have the Ruger 57 and it should be noted my slide surface rusted after use. This was in dry conditions and I keep my firearms oiled. No idea what happened but I am not the only one. I had put Birchwood Casey touch up paint on it. Gun functions fine but very disappointed in Ruger Nitriding quality on this one.
Also I but a Tandemkross fiber rear sight on it. I really like it.
Dude same here. The rust is super annoying- never seen that on any arm before.
The ruger 5.7 is fantastic other than that. People hate on it cause it’s not the original and it’s nothing crazy or innovative but it’s functional just as good if not better than the other two
This shouldn’t be necessary, but I find wiping down any/all guns (especially those with questionable coatings/treatment) with silicone treated cloths is the way to go. Midway makes them for pretty cheap. I buy a dozen or so at a time and keep one by the safe, nightstand, and workbench. It only takes a few seconds to do and will save you from this problem. Also, don’t forget the muzzle and mags (if you get sweaty enough). I live on a farm in the hills of TN, so sweating is just a way of life, and I’ve never had a problem.
Reading many comments about the rust issue, you aren't doing anything wrong.
@@melissasmess2773 Unfortunately, I’ve seen it quite a bit as well. If I heard right, PSA is using a coated stainless slide, which theoretically, should be superior in that regard. I really wish Ruger would step up their game on slide treatment. I own more than a few Ruger products and can’t say I’ve been too impressed (look and feel wise) with what they’ve been doing in the past decade or so. I keep all of my firearms wiped down, but they just feel rough. For example, the LCP II slide looks almost like they skipped treatment altogether. With the stiff springs and tight operating clearances, combined with the rather shallow slide serrations, I’m hesitant to wipe the slide down too much-I use a silicone treated cloth-fearing it’ll cause a loss of traction when working the slide. Other than that, I’ve been pretty happy with most of my Ruger products.
I will say that they seem a bit proud of their 57, looking at the MSRP. I guess they figured they’d be competing with the FN and crunched their numbers with that in mind. With PSA bringing the Rock to market, it’ll be interesting to see how much (if at all) that price fluctuates. We’re living in good times as consumers, aside from the constant political attacks on our freedoms.
The factory slide finish is Black Oxide. I shit you not, check the Ruger website. I was appalled.
Lucky they've been making them with cerakoted slides for a few months now.
I own a Ruger 57 and I like everything about it except the magazines. After about the 10th round, the follower doesn't move freely and the rounds tilt forward and backward. Every magazine (about 10) behaved this way. This results in a lot of cartridge movement, including bullet tips nosediving into the front wall of the magazine. This problem got worse as spring tension increased closer to capacity.
Normally I would put several hundred rounds through the gun before even contacting the MFG. But the 5.7 rounds are more than $1 each so I sent the mags to Ruger before firing a single shot. They were great about accepting and inspecting the magazines. I believe they replaced the followers and springs, and returned them to me quickly. A++ customer service. But the magazines behaved the same way when I got them back.
I took the pistol along with a mix of FN blue tip, American Eagle FMJ, and some frangible rounds to the range. Out of about 120 rounds, I had exactly zero malfunctions. I mixed the ammo types, topped some mags off, loaded only a few in others, and the gun cycled perfectly. At 25 yards, it was very easy to keep everything in the 9-10 rings, but the holes were so small that I couldn't tell without retracting the targets back to me. Other than being loud, the pistol has barely any recoil and is a pleasure to shoot. I still don't like the magazines, and I think they could have been designed better, but the pistol is a champ.
Now if we could get 5.7 ammo prices down a bit.......
Did you check your serial number vs the recall? There was a recall with certain serial numbers with issues
I believe the Ruger 5.7 accepts the magazines from the Rock. You get an additional 3 rounds per mag to I believe.
@@bigbinhous Yep, and mine is post-recall. I don’t think the recall had anything to do with the magazines though.
my two mags that came with the gun were terrible-would't feed at all near capacity
You have to let the slide slam shut.. you can’t show feed it
The 5.7 was created to pierce body armor BUT you can't buy the AP 5.7 rounds. Stupid to buy a gun that will not do what it was designed to do. 5.56 is far superior.
It was instantly apparent when the review started, that the PSA had significantly less recoil. It stayed on target more where you had to fight with the Ruger a little more to get it back on target.
You need to get ahold of the new Ruger 5.7 carbine rifle. Love to hear your thoughts.
Agreed….also wondering how well the PSA magazines would fit in that carbine? Know you said they were tight.
As of this comment, PSA is selling the rock and an AR 5.56 w/ sights and magpull furniture for $800 and change
Dang.
$849.99 plus Tax and Shipping to be exact. A smoking deal regardless.
Awesome summarization of both! Very well explained. Thank you from me in England..👍
One of your best comparison videos in my opinion.
Thank you very much for you time and the all information. Nice and easy for understand.
The rock has shorter barrel . Looks like it’s better balanced
Nice video. I never heard of this caliber until ur video
For the price and the direct mount optic option, I gotta go with PSA on this one. They also offer threaded barrels, which just adds to the party.
Ruger does threaded barrels for the 57 as well, I have one. You just have to buy it separate, is all.
James Reeves (TFB TV) did a video a while ago where he tested .22 suppressors on 5.7 pistols....and it worked.
STUPIDEST thing I have ever seen is a BOBBED, SHROWDED HAMMER on a FULL-SIZED SIDEARM and this explains the HELLACIOUSLY bad trigger--it's about as stupid as a cut slide that doesn't correspond to compensator cuts in the barrel (which you wouldn't even need for such a light-recoiling round).
Why would you want a can on a round that is designed to have very high velocity (meaning even with a can it’s very much not hearing safe due to the supersonic crack)
@@calebnation6155 because any assistance with hearing damage is better than no assistance
Sweet now we need a micro subcompact version
Good stuff, I was really looking at the Ruger 5.7 a while ago but the price and availability of the ammo made it a no go for me. The ammo is becoming cheaper and easier to find now that more companies are making guns for it so that's good. Stay safe buddy.
Go for a FN, you get what you pay for. Rust on my ruger 57 after it sat on my sink as i took a shower a few times.
@@FL-Kman But the FN is so FN ugly…
@@FL-Kman why would you shower with a 5.7 nearby 😂you don’t have any other HD weapon that won’t go through all 7 nearby walls?
I always have a firearm within arms reach even while in the shower (ruger under a fresh set of cloths). Even in Texas while I would mow the lawn in the middle of the day I would have a Ruger 57 in a waistband holster (crossbreed). During all that time when it was my go to gun I never had my Ruger 57 rust. It appears Ruger is inconsistent with the quality of their finishes.
@@SecondGambit you ever see the 007 films? Seems like every other movie he gets attacked while showering or in the bathroom. I know those are movies but still the threat is there.. I just happened to be ccw the ruger 57 at that time 😂
I went with the Ruger, though I like the PSA, with 5.7, its all about speed, and for that you need barrel. Both guns are great, but the Ruger offers a slightly longer barrel and that's the W for me.
If you want speed go with a carbine. 25fps isn't enough to make a significant difference in a pistol.
Watching closely as you fired, the Rock had just slightly less muzzle rise. In the target comparison, in spite of the heavier trigger, you grouped better with the Rock. Not surprising, the Rock had less travel and good reset. I do like a light trigger, I also noticed a group size increase with long trigger travel. All that can be trained out with practice but with limited ammo, there it is.
The Rock trigger will smooth and lighten with several hundred dry fires. Saw that on their forum & found it so with mine.
Neither of these guns will never see great success among the average gun owner until the price of ammunition is reasonable! the 5.7 has been around for a while now , and the ammo has always been expensive
Bout 80cents a rd round me.... 44 mag 44special 357mag n on up the food chain are all high but thing is they work ... I shoot them all. But I get your grief with the cartridge... 9mm finally coming down round me but if you shoot alot every caliber gets expensive lol
@@lazygamer9725 yup 9mm I can find for around $14 a box of 50, but 5.7 at just under a $1.00 a round is a little on the steep end, always liked the 5.7 but I don't think the price for ammo outweighs its advantages.......😒
How do they compare to the FN FiveseveN?
I will stick with the Ruger 5.7 even though it's a little more $$
Competition in price is great for consumers. You can buy the PSA and a very hefty pile of ammunition, for the price of the FN.
If you do just a bit of legwork, ammo prices arent that bad. In 10 mins, I found multiple sites selling 5.7 for 60 cents/rd
Can we all acknowledge that the Rock is about as aesthetic as a rock next to the Ruger though
We all have different preferences.
IMO the trigger I like the Rock the best as is from the factory. Then the FN FSN, and then the Ruger. The Ruger's trigger has that mushy DA like pull you show. Aftermarket shoe offerings for the FSN do add some better trigger options for the FSN, but that short reset on the Rock is hard to beat.
I'm getting the victory trigger for my 57. You were generous about that trigger 😂
I had no idea there was a Ruger 5.7 Carbine out there, so thanks for that mention. I recently bought the classic FN Five Seven. I chose it over the Ruger pistol, which is by most standards a much better value, but I'm a 90's gun guy. I'm definitely gonna check out the Ruger carbine though.
THERE is a Company out there that has the AR-15 Covestion Uper in the 5.7 Caliber with a mag " $$$ UNKNOWN "
I definitely want the PSA Rock 👍
Update I got one and it's very nice ✌️
Great comparison video Sootch! I like both of them. Think I would lean toward the Rock. Am kinda waiting till 5.7 gets a little cheaper and more available.
The grip on the Rock looks a lot like the Taurus TX22
At the time of this post, you had 5.7k likes on your video for the 5.7 round. Great video as well.
Ruger just released their LC 57 carbine. So a shooter could get back too a 2 gun system with ammo and mag
Beside the price, the PSA has better Barrel and a lot better trigger.
Did you watch the video? He loved everything about the PSA except the trigger.
I know, but did you notice how short is the trigger reset. That means faster shooting!
I keep trying to convince myself that I need 5.7x28 in my life…but I haven’t been successful as yet. There’s a lot to love, but still not enough to “pull the trigger”. Wouldn’t you just love that PSA barrel with the Ruger fire control system? That could be the answer for me.
If you shorten the follower in the ruger it will hold 23 rounds also. The tab on the follower is very long.
Now get the s&w and do a comparison w their rotating barrel system! I think I'm sold on it but more content is always good
Beautiful review, I really enjoyed your comparisons of the two pistols. Great work and a great watch! Thanks sootch!
PSA Rock 57 about 500usd
Ruger 57 about 870usd
FN 57 about 1000usd
I like the thumb safety on the 1911 so it's Ruger-57 for me.
best gun reviews on TH-cam! Thank you!
FN 57 was about $1400, pre Ruger, then dropped to about $1100. With PSA at $500, will be interesting to see where FN and Ruger prices end up. Started to get interested in 5.7 when Ruger dropped the new carbine. Now, even more so knowing the PSA mags will run it. Something to consider if 5.7 ammo continues to drop in price and get improvements through competition between manufacturers.
My Ruger was 500
Wen how where did u get the ruger for 500?
Federal 5.7 just went up in price from $34 to $40 here in Mississippi
Only place I seen a Ruger 5.7 for $1100 was a gun show I bought mine for $600 when it first released
I ran across a Ruger today at academy sports on some sort of sale . It was the display model in fde with the case and 2 magazines. I walked it out the door for $360, I couldn't pass it up. I can't wait to get it to the range. [edit] original price was $799 at an Academy here in Kentucky.
I have the Ruger and now I want the PSA too.
Time for Glock to make one.
I want to see a carry version of one of these in 5.7!
The 5" is already debatably too short, any shorter negates the ballistics, the whole point is LOST.
@@IronChefBklyn Exactly. These ARE the carry versions.
these are the carry version, 5.7 isn't supposed to be shot with something this short, any shorter and you just lose too much velocity which is the biggest strength of the 5.7 round
I have both, they are equally reliable (100%) in my experience. I have prefrence in the Psa rock however. The ruger has a sloppy loose trigger, less capacity, more tedious to take down. Psa feels higher quality as well. Also the glock compatible sights on the rock is a very useful feature. (i have no experience with red dots on the guns so i cant tell you which one has better micro dot mounts since i have an eye issue.)
Given rugers stance on atf i wish psa would have launched the rock sooner
What is Sturm, Ruger, and Co. stance on the ATF?
They have been that way forever, one reason the Mini-14 does not use AR magazines I believe.
Great review and I wish all your broke comments about how expensive the ammunition is would stop comparing a niche rifle round to a pistol round, it isn't ever going to be 30 cents a round😂
I bet it will be. I’ve seen it not too far north from there recently…
Best 5.7 Rock video I've seen yet. Thanks for this. Was curious about the takedown for it and now I'm clear on exactly how. Can't wait to take it to the range!
Holy 💩 what a great weapon. I'm loving this!
Had the ruger. Ruger will send you one plate for a red dot free. If you want to change footprints its 40$ a plate plus shipping. Sold my ruger got the rock optics ready for 499. Much happier with it.
The Rock reminds me more of a Taurus TX22 in looks than the PSA Dagger.
Since this video was first published. There has been some slight changes with the Rock's magazines. My partner has the Ruger 57. I just had the Rock delivered. The Ruger magazines will work in the Rock. But, you have to T-cup the grip to hold it in place. The new Rock mags will work on the Ruger, and will lock into place safely and cycle a round safely.
Interesting thanks for the input
I put 200rds through both of them today and I love them both. Off a rest the Ruger slightly nudged the PSA at 50yds both using holosun accs reticles. It was so close it could have just been me. I was shooting reloads, FN ammo.. I have an FN also and it may go on gun broker, the newer 57's are next level.
Which one you like the best bro?
Both great companies, both with great customer service. I am sure both guns are good. With some of the deals PSA runs, it is like they throw in a free AR with the Rock.
I love my Ruger 5.7 and was thinking about getting the PSA, but when Ruger came out with a 5.7 LC Carbine, plans have changed.
Its ugly to me. Wish the wouldve seperate the mag well from the grip
Rumor has it that Rock magazines work with the Ruger 5.7 LC Carbine.
Rumors are correct 💯 %
@@__boo Yeah that would have been great, make the gun that much longer. We prefer guns as long as possible when used for home defense.
What kind of idiot wants a carbine as short as possible.
@@BB-1990 Why do you have to result
to immidiate insults? I have a 10.5 inch AR15 and you can get them even shorter. Even if the mag well is seperate. Its just what I prefer to look at. Theres plenty of home defense options I know I just gave my opinion sheesh
Great video as always. Thank you.
I'd go with the rock over the FN and the Ruger specifically because they give you threaded barrel and rail options without an extra hundred bucks, when the gun is already at a base discount comparatively. If the Rock is anything like my Dagger, its solid design and build.
Check out the S & W 5.7
The Ruger 57 looks better in couple of ways, the front high visibility front fiber optic sight, and the side safety.
Thank goodness ruger stayed true to themselves by keeping the hammer and that tigger is just nice!😌
That trigger is trash
@@wafflestomper5206 the LGS had one, trigger was ok. They also had the FN 5.7 and its trigger was real TRASH. Felt like i was holding a drill.
@@wafflestomper5206 duh ruger is cheap gimmick garbage
I didn't see any deals on the Ruger but I found the Rock for about 450 with a threaded barrel I optics cut with a Holosun 507c. Nice review 👌 👏 very neutral!
@No Step OnWhat's the website? Would make a great christmas gift for my wife.
Love the video but I will stick with my OG FN 5.7 😎👍
Definitely the better choice PSA is trash
Says the guys that spent $1200 on their FN’s.
Like that the Rock is cheaper, but wonder when PSA may do a carbine that takes the same mags.
Leaning towards the Rock. Awsome round. Ammo price still needs to get lower before I 'pull the trigger'.
Great video. Love the head to head. Stay safe. GodBless.
I ended up with the rock. I couldn’t pass up the deal with the 5 magazine bundle and 407k optic.
For 450-500, not exactly sure since it’s been awhile. I held the sw, ruger, and new FN. Luckily a friend had a rock that i could hold. I did prefer the feel on the rock. I’m sure all the options are very good. I didn’t like the gap that the sw had, i didn’t really want the safety on the ruger, and the price comparison between the gen 2 FN was wild.
I’ve had 400 or so AE and FN blue tips on the rock and it’s been shooting true. I can’t complain.
The PSA at the price during Christmas by buying the slide, mags, and frame separately along with the quality for what you get sold me on it. You get out the door with a threaded barrel, two mags and night sights for under $450 after shipping and taxes. It was just too good of a deal for me to pass up knowing I would get more interest in this round after having a blast with the .22 TCM.
I bought my 5.7 for $525 after taxes and shipping but it came with 10 mags. Then the Xmas sale happened and I wanted to kick myself. I don’t think I need 10 mags but you know what, I got them!
@@betweenthebars19 That was still a great deal. Not sure I'd need that many mags, either. At least you got the box, too. Mine came in cardboard.
PSA basically made a Glock clone that shoots 5.7
PSA is also making their own 5.7x28 ammo, so prices should be lower.
Great comparisons. I want the precision, larger ammo capacity and better recoil of the PSA, but no thumb safety makes it a deal breaker for me. With my kids still at home, I like a visible thumb safety for peace of mind. Thanks for the detailed comparison, much appreciated. 17.99 a box would be awesome!!
Keeping your gun in a holster when not in use and out of reach of your children is the best safety.
If you’re relying on safety to keep your kid from doing something stupid you are too dumb to own a firearm.
I would get the PSA 5.7 Rock and Ruger Carbine 5.7
Just found the Ruger for $499 and at that price plus I like the looks of the Ruger, would go Ruger but both are good.
new? where'd you find it? And I agree the Ruger looks better. Call me shallow but that's a factor for me. Plus it seems more reliable than the PSA. Plus the optics cut PSA is the same price as the ruger anyway which is always optics cut. 23 round mag is nice for PSA though.
I have the ruger over 1 yr, great flat shooter, 100% reliability, but need ammo prices to come down
3 years ago 9mm ammo was around 10 $12 a box
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Great video! One thing I'd add about the price of the ruger is that you can also buy the LC carbine so you have a matching carbine for your pistol which makes the ruger a little more versatile imo and worth the extra cost.
Own both and feel the Ruger is a better shooter and lighter
I just bought the PSA in a combo deal from PSA ! I got the threaded barrel option & can't wait to suppress her. Glad I waited & didn't get the Ruger even though that's a nice pew pew as well 😊
Does supressor need a booster for 5.7?
As of Weds 9/14, PSA is selling The Rock 57 with 10 magazines for $599!
VERY nice comparison between the two pistols! Honestly it's worth getting both (although, I'm a bit perplexed why you didn't opt for the PSA version with the slide optics cut). For those considering attaching a suppressor, the PSA is available with the slide already cut for optics (it comes with two adapter plates for different footprints, the slide is cut for direct-mounting of Shield RMS/SMS footprint plus it comes with a blank-off plate) and a threaded barrel. At the time of this comment Ruger doesn't offer the pistol with a threaded barrel already installed but they do offer a threaded barrel on their website. Note: the threaded PSA barrel is 1/2x28 while the thinner Ruger barrel is threaded M10x1 and comes with an adapter for 1/2x28.
There are a couple of suppressors which are specifically designed for the FN Five Seven pistol which also uses the M10x1 thread, so it's possible to purchase a suppressor in that thread without any additional adapters. Oh, and the striker-fired system has been proven well over 40 years- Heinrich Ortgies introduced a pistol in three different calibers around 1920, and the Baby Browning soon followed it (also striker-fired), among many others. Despite what many believe, Glock didn't come up with the idea (nor are they the first to use polymer frames- that milestone goes to HK).
Great review as always but damn I gotta buy food too!!!
It looked like they both had the same recoil and or muzzle flip to me, it probably was because of the different barrel length, maybe if the barrel lengths were equal, I believe the Rock would of have less muzzle flip or felt recoil!