ill be buying one soon, likely swapping in the EGW toolless, but even on my operator 45 with a WC FLGR, I still rotate my link and take down the old way, not removing the slide first.... removing the slide first always seems harder and takes longer.... no idea why people do it that way
I used a 2 piece guide rod years ago when I shot IPSC. I always loosened it first before removing the slide. You skipped step 3 and that is what caused your difficulty. I really enjoy your videos and consider you one of the best reviewers online. 👍
Your very welcome. Your also one of the best shots I've seen online. Banging full size steel is much easier than shooting the tight groups you regularly shoot in front of the camera. @@GBGuns
Hahaha, I've discussed that a bit withh friends: certain channels have a wall of full-size steel and after making contact at a non-pre-called target call the gun "accurate", or even worse are praised as accurate shooters. It is what it is, each channel has a different set of standards they hold themselves and the firearms to. I just try to keep things practical.
Glad to here. I've got the 5" also and it won't complete a mag without multiple malfunctions. I've tried different recoil springs and hammer springs, and a combination of both. Still doesn't work. Also contacted Springfield before tinkering, and they never responded. So, it's going to be gone Friday. Don't know what I want to trade it for though.
The reference was to step 2, but if you had just read down one more step, you would have seen that step 3 was the one that had the hex wrench in it. Step 3 tells you to loosen the 2 part guide rod before you take the slide off. If you do it that way it doesn't ding the ears on the rod.
Your welcome 😁. My husband and I, refuse to watch any of the gun reviews with filthy content or blatant lies. You're honesty is comment. Have a great evening. 😁🙏
I like to back off the guiderod bolt with the slide on the frame. I’ve had my 4.25” for 4 months or so now and very pleased. Zero failures and I’m north of 3,000 rounds now. That being said this is my first DBL stack 1911. My only gripe has been the optic plate coming loose several times.
Thank you GBGuns and thank you patrons! While this offering seems value driven it doesn't seem to have the quality of Bul or Staccato and doesn't have the features of the next group of MPA or Vudoo. I do like my Springfield Range Officer in 45 ACP but will likely go to another manufacturer for a double stack 9mm 1911.
Very awesome. The 425 is awesome model. Was a little worried after watching reviews. But so far very nice. Great video. Alot of optic issues are reported. They loosen up even with lock tight the plate to rail fit. and the screws need to be filed down so not to interfere with the ejection. Not all models but some. Other than that it's ok.
i dont get the heavier "carry trigger" on a 1911 except as an excuse for a bad trigger. its carried cocked and locked or if you dont trust yourself then with the hammer down so what is the reason for a heavier trigger? All 1911's should have light crisp triggers there is no excuse.
I say that as someone who has had a total of over 300 hours of nationally/internationally recognized training in addition to combat experience in Afghanistan. Trigger weight is not an issue when adrenaline is pumping, but too light can be when under durress, moving, being startled, etc. My raggedy GI M16A2 trigger was hardly noticed during combat, I'd hate to have a light trigger in the civilian world where every round fired can and likely will have a law suit attached to it.
@@GBGuns I'm not questioning your expertise i have been an avid subscriber for a long time I know you are very knowledgeable I just disagree on this. I do agree when the adrenaline was pumping I didn't notice the 8 pound creeping trigger on my M16 either but especially on a pistol a poor trigger can still effect accuracy. As for stressful situations even then you shouldn't have your booger flicker on the trigger unless you want to destroy what you are aiming at and adequate training can ensure that. I see no excuse for a high quality 1911 to have anything but a light and crisp trigger pull.
We can agree to disagree, especially when it comes to something as personal as trigger application. I've runn DA/SA guns through four-day courses and never had a slightly heavier trigger hold me back at anything beyond long strings of rapid fire.
You're correct about 80 series when you're talking about a 7lb trigger, not when you're talking about a 1.5lb-2.5lb trigger. That's where 70 series makes a huge difference.
It looks like they meant Step 3, as from the manual you showed mentioned the 5/32s wrench in Step 3 when I paused the video as you suggest. I suppose they had sloppy editing on the manual.
How come people assume that Springfield Armory had to cut corners to hit this price point? Maybe the other manufacturers, (staccato) are just over pricing theirs.
1911-pattern guns involve a lot more parts than your basic striker gun. More parts means more manufacturing costs and more labor to assemble. There are some measures taken wiht this pistol to reduce costs, and yes Stacatto is very proud of their work too. What the real cost is we'll never know.
Do you think this or the Rock island Tac ultra is a better option for a first 2011? (I’d really hate to give SA money) but love to know your opinion if you have any experience with the Tac ultra.
@@GBGuns Thanks and here I thought that 50AE Desert Eagle was the boat anchor, lol. I was talking more function as an entry-level double stack 1911. Maybe range day will better answer that question on the best entry-level double stack 1911? Keep up the great work Graham!
It is not, I'm not sure who is making this, but as we know Springfield does very little (if any) manufacturing of their own, so I have trouble believing they just starting making double-stack 1911's out of the blue one day.
@@GBGunsoh ok... I searched a little harder and found this on Backfire: All Springfield Armory firearms today are made in the USA, except for the XD and Hellcat lines of pistols which are made in a Springfield-owned facility in Croatia. Their 1911 models had frames and slides manufactured in Brazil until 2010, but now they are all made in the USA. The company is headquartered in Geneseo, Illinois. Didn't seem like HS Produkt to put out something with extractor problems. My brain was having trouble with that. Anyway enough of my rambling. Thanks for answering!
I seriously doubt that Springfield owns HS Produkt. I also doubt they made the Saint Edgge ATC which was clearly a licensed version of someone else's product. The M1 wasn't their design, the 1911 isn't their design, hell even the name isn't the original "Springfield Armory". Until I accidentally find myself in Illinois I'll have trouble believing they do much manufacturing. They have good products, and are brilliant at marketing. There's nothing wrong with being just a brand, but I struggle to give them credit for product creation despite my appreciation for hte products they bring to market.
I've been considering it. Although both of similar specs, I don't consider them to be equals, nor are they priced as equals. It would be sort of a "this is what a few hundred dollars more gets you".
Full review with specs and pricing: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/sprongfield-armory-1911-ds-prodigy
Loosen and tighten the guide rod while slide is still on the frame works pretty well.
Same as I was thinking
ill be buying one soon, likely swapping in the EGW toolless, but even on my operator 45 with a WC FLGR, I still rotate my link and take down the old way, not removing the slide first.... removing the slide first always seems harder and takes longer.... no idea why people do it that way
Love my prodigy! Got the 5inch and I'm 3500+ rounds and have had zero issues 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
The best table top review on the Prodigy , beautiful gun . Thank you for the review.
Thank you
I used a 2 piece guide rod years ago when I shot IPSC. I always loosened it first before removing the slide. You skipped step 3 and that is what caused your difficulty. I really enjoy your videos and consider you one of the best reviewers online. 👍
Thank you
Your very welcome. Your also one of the best shots I've seen online. Banging full size steel is much easier than shooting the tight groups you regularly shoot in front of the camera. @@GBGuns
Hahaha, I've discussed that a bit withh friends: certain channels have a wall of full-size steel and after making contact at a non-pre-called target call the gun "accurate", or even worse are praised as accurate shooters. It is what it is, each channel has a different set of standards they hold themselves and the firearms to. I just try to keep things practical.
@GBGuns Yes, shooting on paper is the only way to test accuracy.😊
Have the 5" model with hex and love it, its been accurate and reliable with no malfunctions for me so far with around 500 rounds.
Glad to here. I've got the 5" also and it won't complete a mag without multiple malfunctions. I've tried different recoil springs and hammer springs, and a combination of both. Still doesn't work. Also contacted Springfield before tinkering, and they never responded. So, it's going to be gone Friday. Don't know what I want to trade it for though.
I'm getting one next month so it was nice to see this review.. I really appreciate it..!!
Read article first. Thanks for the video. Thanks patrons.
The reference was to step 2, but if you had just read down one more step, you would have seen that step 3 was the one that had the hex wrench in it. Step 3 tells you to loosen the 2 part guide rod before you take the slide off. If you do it that way it doesn't ding the ears on the rod.
Thank you again for sharing your fantastic pistol reviews. You're honesty is commendable. God bless 🙏
Thank you for all your support!
Your welcome 😁. My husband and I, refuse to watch any of the gun reviews with filthy content or blatant lies.
You're honesty is comment. Have a great evening. 😁🙏
I like to back off the guiderod bolt with the slide on the frame. I’ve had my 4.25” for 4 months or so now and very pleased. Zero failures and I’m north of 3,000 rounds now. That being said this is my first DBL stack 1911. My only gripe has been the optic plate coming loose several times.
Thank you GBGuns and thank you patrons! While this offering seems value driven it doesn't seem to have the quality of Bul or Staccato and doesn't have the features of the next group of MPA or Vudoo. I do like my Springfield Range Officer in 45 ACP but will likely go to another manufacturer for a double stack 9mm 1911.
Sleek, almost minimalist. I like it.
Very awesome. The 425 is awesome model. Was a little worried after watching reviews. But so far very nice. Great video. Alot of optic issues are reported. They loosen up even with lock tight the plate to rail fit. and the screws need to be filed down so not to interfere with the ejection. Not all models but some. Other than that it's ok.
i dont get the heavier "carry trigger" on a 1911 except as an excuse for a bad trigger. its carried cocked and locked or if you dont trust yourself then with the hammer down so what is the reason for a heavier trigger? All 1911's should have light crisp triggers there is no excuse.
I say that as someone who has had a total of over 300 hours of nationally/internationally recognized training in addition to combat experience in Afghanistan. Trigger weight is not an issue when adrenaline is pumping, but too light can be when under durress, moving, being startled, etc. My raggedy GI M16A2 trigger was hardly noticed during combat, I'd hate to have a light trigger in the civilian world where every round fired can and likely will have a law suit attached to it.
@@GBGuns I'm not questioning your expertise i have been an avid subscriber for a long time I know you are very knowledgeable I just disagree on this. I do agree when the adrenaline was pumping I didn't notice the 8 pound creeping trigger on my M16 either but especially on a pistol a poor trigger can still effect accuracy. As for stressful situations even then you shouldn't have your booger flicker on the trigger unless you want to destroy what you are aiming at and adequate training can ensure that. I see no excuse for a high quality 1911 to have anything but a light and crisp trigger pull.
We can agree to disagree, especially when it comes to something as personal as trigger application. I've runn DA/SA guns through four-day courses and never had a slightly heavier trigger hold me back at anything beyond long strings of rapid fire.
You wouldn't want to Alec Baldwin an AD.
@@WranglerJKLS that's why you follow the basic rules of firearm safety. A light trigger is no excuse for a negligent discharge.
Well done
You're correct about 80 series when you're talking about a 7lb trigger, not when you're talking about a 1.5lb-2.5lb trigger. That's where 70 series makes a huge difference.
Yup we did!!!!
I wouldn't mind this one but due to ammo limit restrictions no can due, I have alot of their 45s. 4:12
You mentioned the instructions a few times but didn’t read them lol
Thanks GB. Great job. Good info. God bless.
LETS GO BRANDON
I think the question is....to get it compensated/ ported? 😎👊🤘
It looks like they meant Step 3, as from the manual you showed mentioned the 5/32s wrench in Step 3 when I paused the video as you suggest. I suppose they had sloppy editing on the manual.
Or edited/written by someone who hasn't tried what they're writing about.
That takedown is madness lol
Like any 1911 with a full-length guide rod, there's no easy way to do it.
That was an easy takedown…… lol
How come people assume that Springfield Armory had to cut corners to hit this price point? Maybe the other manufacturers, (staccato) are just over pricing theirs.
1911-pattern guns involve a lot more parts than your basic striker gun. More parts means more manufacturing costs and more labor to assemble. There are some measures taken wiht this pistol to reduce costs, and yes Stacatto is very proud of their work too. What the real cost is we'll never know.
Do you think this or the Rock island Tac ultra is a better option for a first 2011? (I’d really hate to give SA money) but love to know your opinion if you have any experience with the Tac ultra.
It's a shame the 5 inch isn't in review as that is the one with the issues.
We went with the 4.25 so that it can be compared against our BUL Armory SAS II TAC.
How does this compare with the Rock Island's double stack 1911?
The Rock Island is all steel and so significantly heavier. That can be good for recoil control, or a boat anchor on your hip.
@@GBGuns Thanks and here I thought that 50AE Desert Eagle was the boat anchor, lol. I was talking more function as an entry-level double stack 1911. Maybe range day will better answer that question on the best entry-level double stack 1911? Keep up the great work Graham!
Apologies if you said already, but is this one made by HS Produkt?
It is not, I'm not sure who is making this, but as we know Springfield does very little (if any) manufacturing of their own, so I have trouble believing they just starting making double-stack 1911's out of the blue one day.
@@GBGunsoh ok... I searched a little harder and found this on Backfire: All Springfield Armory firearms today are made in the USA, except for the XD and Hellcat lines of pistols which are made in a Springfield-owned facility in Croatia. Their 1911 models had frames and slides manufactured in Brazil until 2010, but now they are all made in the USA. The company is headquartered in Geneseo, Illinois.
Didn't seem like HS Produkt to put out something with extractor problems. My brain was having trouble with that. Anyway enough of my rambling. Thanks for answering!
I seriously doubt that Springfield owns HS Produkt. I also doubt they made the Saint Edgge ATC which was clearly a licensed version of someone else's product. The M1 wasn't their design, the 1911 isn't their design, hell even the name isn't the original "Springfield Armory". Until I accidentally find myself in Illinois I'll have trouble believing they do much manufacturing. They have good products, and are brilliant at marketing. There's nothing wrong with being just a brand, but I struggle to give them credit for product creation despite my appreciation for hte products they bring to market.
@@GBGuns well said
You need to break it lose be for you remove the slide….
Man for $1,500 they gave you a cardboard box…🤦🏻♂️
Would love to see a comparison between this and your Bul Armory!
I've been considering it. Although both of similar specs, I don't consider them to be equals, nor are they priced as equals. It would be sort of a "this is what a few hundred dollars more gets you".
Get the Bul. Springfield doesn't work. I have one.