I had the Hankook on an SUV , for about a month. They were useless in Nordic conditions, and I switched to Hakka R5 after that. Huge difference on snow and ice. But the Hakkapeliitta R5 is very bad at aquaplaning. One of the worst tires I've had in heavy rain.
Just rewatched that video again for reference. Is there a resource available where we could possibly reference CE winter, soft compound, and studded tire geographical suggested areas. North Americans and Europeans may not be familiar with each place's geographical climates, and a reference guide might be handy for ex-pats and immigrants. Not that I'm suggesting that you should have to do it. You put a ton of work into these reviews, and you are my 1st stop for comparisons when tire shopping. Keep up the good work!@@tyrereviews
@@tyrereviewsyes do explain, I am no expert , I live in Québec and our winters are also a mix. Powdered and wet snow, slush, 0 c to -40c, rain once or twice, lots of black Ice on overpass. My Hakka5 have phenomenal, but thinking of buying Michelin X-ice & snow this year for my new car. For example continental are considered good but not the best here in our area
I really miss the Ice driving test in this one. Winter annoyingly has it all, but the most worrysone moments are ice. Even in dry circumstances, you'll have ice collection near traffic lights as cars dump their water via the exhaust there. About 50 meters of it to the traffic lights. And of course when snow gets compacted to black ice which usually takes just one day. Happy to see Maxxis in the test. Off road possibly the best Mud and maybe AT tires, so good to see they are branching out and did a decent job. I assume they'll improve in the coming years and become one of the main brands where price and quality are best. I just bought the maxxis and Nokians, but mainly as there was nothing else available for my LC200, Prado 150 and Suzuki Grand Vitara. I do have older Miss Alpines, and despite having done 60k on them, i do have some trust left in them. Great tires. Thanks for the review, top quality as always.
Would be good to see the studless category and the performance winters (this video) head to head on ice and snow. Even just one tire from each compared
Ahh, I wish you could've done ice also. hoping future vids show that. I'd love to see the Michelin X-ice, Bridgestone DM-V2, and Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5. Keep up the great work!
You are a legend. Thanks again for making these videos. It's invaluable material for us drivers trying to make the right safe choice. I had 4 Goodyear vector 4seasons gen 3 put on the family car this weekend. Compared to the Pilot sports Ive been using for years the car felt more softer, a bit squidgy but I will get used to that. but most importantly I know i can be confident that my family will be safe in wet or winter conditions, and that's what really matters. Even the tyre fitter said that these are the only tyres he uses for his family cars. thank you from a UK subscriber
According to the subjective opinion of most people in my country, if we take premium tires, Goodyear UltraGrip Performance Plus SUV is considered a better option than Conti or Michelin. We often have “porridge” on our roads - a mixture of water, snow, sand and mud. + bad roads. It is believed that the TS 870 P and Pilot Alpin 5 SUV are better for the Eurowinter, where there is less snow and better roads. The main complaint about Conti is that they wear out quickly. Most likely, this is due to the quality of the road surface.
Great review. It would be good though if you state the temperature for the wet/dry testing. In this and the other winter/AS videos. If not below say 7 degrees doesn't it compromise the results given the optimal design parameters, and especially if doing any comparisons with summer tyres? Slopes too - I've managed along flat sections in the snow ok with summer tyres before, after a suddenly flurry, but it's the traction uphill and breaking downhill that makes a difference and really matters. Great if you could get more of that in. It's hard to do everything, but I'd guess it's probably more useful to most than lap times on snow... if less fun :)
Love it. I’ve got the Contis predecessor on my SUV and I’m already very happy with it. Also I can underline the Bridgestone LM005 as a perfect Central Europe Winter tire, because it hardly ever snows and it rains all the time. I love these tests.
Good call using the Bridgestones. They tend to be cheaper which is a factor and arguably more available. It can be quite hard to find the known brands Michelin, Pirelli and Conti…and then the price..
I was having a hard time choosing between Continental WinterContact TS 870 P and Bridgestone Blizzak LM005. But after, I made my decision and now I’m going to buy Continental WinterContact TS 870 P. Cheers 🎉
So my take away is: In order to improve rolling resistance it is very difficult not do a huge trade off (against wet / aqua / snow). Alpin 5 was best in snow and other, because it kept to this rule. However Conti managed to improve RR without much tradeoff, which is nice.
I will be getting these Continentals for this winter for my brand new hybrid 4wd CRV. The Rolling resistance was major factor as hybrid can go far on electric mode (not plug in version) the less resistance it has. Sure Alpin 5 has better noise reduction but at the cost of RR that is too high.
Nice to see that Continental is back on Position 1. (i prefer the looks of Michelin though) All these A-Brand tyres perform great ! and you can`t go wrong, it`s more what you prefer more or less. Thank Jonathan for these video`s! The best and greatest tyre-platform on TH-cam! (no bla bla, no bling bling) just yourself, great tyres and your tyre tessting experiences in a video --> Great💙 !!
Add a few brands because, for example, Hancook are great, but maybe their budget brand Laufenn is also interesting? And e.g. mid-range brands such as Matador, Uniroyal, Kleber, it would be nice to finally see them 🤩
Always grateful for all that you do, and I don't even live in an area that snows! You do so much and cover so many qualities that each tire brings and/or lacks. Have you ever considered using a family sedan for your all-season tire tests? Or will it not make a difference at all? Thank you so much for your time and your highly informative videos!
Thank you, thank you, thank you for getting right down to business. Too many yt'ers talk and talk and talk before getting to the point if there is one to make.
Living in Minnesota i got x-ice SUV on wife's Tuguan and X-Ice on my Golf R. When you got that black ice or ice and slush or very cold temperatures and frozen snow you really feel the difference between them and performance oriented models.
I know ppl who run on bald tires because they cannot afford new tires. Heck, I've even seen all 4 tires with the wires showing! They cannot afford to not have tires with some tread left but if all they can afford for their $200 beater are cheap tires, then I'm not going to judge them. Sometimes they even have to buy used tires, but yeah, I agree: always buy the best tires you can afford because medical bills can easily run into the thousands (in the US). [I envy ppl in other countries who will look at this and laugh at how insane that our healthcare system still has not improved or catch up to Europe and others.]
A very good review that provides clear opinions on a subject that is prone to get complicated. Answered every question on my mind. Nice driving by the way👍
Would love to see van tyre tests. I think they get overlooked given the amount of vans on the road, I've had a company van for 13 years and drive 40k per year in all conditions, and they only fit mid range summer tyres, recently due to a mix up I was give premium all season tyres an the difference in the wet during summer was way better than the mid range Summer tyres I'm actually looking forward to the winter knowing I've got now decent tyres so a good comparison on van tyres would be great.
He should have tested the Bridgestone Blizzak WS90 and DMV2, and Michelin X-Ice available in the US but maybe not there? I drive my 2013 Mazda CX-5 AWD on Blizzak WS90s -- fantastic on snow and ice. They are like a playground for this CUV! Could've picked DMV2 but the former had a slightly better rating. X-Ice are said to be better performers, mainly regarding acceleration.
I like you job man, what I miss would be Yokohama tier (v906). Don't know how it compares, but my subjective feeling on RAV4 is quite good for the money.
Hi, I have been enjoying your reviews a lot. There are brands of tyres that are quite big that they tend to be overlooked and I was curious to see them tested properly and honestly like you do. Like of Sava, Barum, Debica, Kormoran, Fulda, Sumitomo. If you did it in the past what is your opinion of them as I think they have giants like Goodyear, Continental etc behind them. And what is happening with Dunlop?
Compare the top end tire of each brand Bridgestone ws90 or dmv2. Michelin xice 3 or xice 3.nokian 5:025:025:025:025:025:02 hakkapeliitta r5 or r10 . toyo observe gsi 5 or 6 . hankook ipike
I just replaced my bmw x3 RFTs with Continental Extreme Contact DSW 06 Plus. The ride is amazing, as I expected. Every new vehicle I’ve purchased over the past 15 years, I drove to Discount Tire the next day and put Continentals on it. Cannot match the ride as well as amazing handling. I’ve even taken off new Michelins and still got a better ride.
My daughter uses gt ice pro on her suv and uses them all year long and they last 3 years! She tries to slide but she can't. She passes jeeps and everyone that's stuck. Yet you never hear about them!
I have already fitted kleer quadraxer 3. But still have dunlop winter sport 5 almost 5 year-old tyre in case quadraxer fails to deal with the snow. Hope Poland will not be affected with rough snow next 3 winters....Kleber will not last more....
Can’t wait for an episode of “The Best SUV 3 Peak Mountain Snow Flake A/T Tire in winter” Comparing tires like BFG KO2 (or newer KO3), Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac (without studs), Falken Wildpeak AT3W, Toyo Open Country AT3. Maybe even add Michelin LTX A/T 2 to the mix as many 4Runner owners swear about its winter performance even without 3PMSF rating.
Hi Jonathan, not to be a stickler, but driving on a wet road ad 5 degrees is different than driving on wet at 20 something degrees. Or am I mistaking? Your wet test was done in warm weather.
Would you test Petlas Glacier W661 as a budget tire in the nordic winter tire test? The pattern of the tire is very impressive and it is widely sold where I am.
The brands that always place well are ones I commonly recommend. I have to laugh that the "no name" or cheap Chinese tires are always as bad as you think they are. Can't personally believe people cheap out on tires. Great roundup as always!
Unfortunately, some ppl in the US sometimes only make minimum wage or got laid off and has to make every cent last. Also, hopefully ppl buying cheap tires will fund those companies better so that they'll become more competitive in the future or even come up with new technologies. I mean companies came up vulcanization, radial (vs bias) and their own unique compound and ratios and I look forward to newer and better technologies that the industry will adopt.
@@SayAhh True, but I too often see people driving an X6 or Escalade and have no name tires, with barely any thread on them. They are a danger to anyone on the road.
@@SayAhh "Also, hopefully ppl buying cheap tires will fund those companies better" - You are funding China by buying Pirelli, as they are Chinese owned, they do have access to the best Western technologies, yet they still make crappy tires, because they cheap out.
Thanks for another great, subjective test. I struggle deciding whether to put winter or all-season tires on my mother's SUV because even in Michigan (USA) she’ll be driving on dry or wet roads at least 90% of the time. Anyway, thanks again.
Awesome- entertaining and professional content as always! I am quite impressed with Hankook to be honest, brings a lot to the table for it's price and I like that overall performance. Looking forward to next videos, hope to see ice testing back if it will be possible for you. Take care and keep up with great videos, cheers! :)
Hi, thanks for al the years of super content. For the new BMW X5 50e would you recommend the Michelin Alpin 5? Living in Belgium, 2x a year skiing in the Alpes. Sporty driver 😉
Keep up with your great work! Would you still recommend the Conti for the new Cayenne S in a Central European climate (Germany, Luxembourg, Belgium)? 21 or 22inches? Thanks!
These are winter tyres, should you not test the tires below 7*C? Preferably, below 0*C too show the difference of the compounds at or below freezing. Canadian drivers above the 39th parallel want to know.
Just subbed. Love your channel. We live in Canada and I just bought a 2024 Rav4 hybrid awd and we get a good variety of snow / ice and slush. What do you recommend for snow / slush performance in the Micheline line? Im looking at Micheline X Ice -Snow, Alpin and Cross Climate 2?
I have the Cross Climate 2 on my 2019 Subaru Forester Sport. Perfect year round tire for Seattle and the snowy mountains. I'm amazed how well it performs in slush and deep water. I used to switch between a winter tire like the X-ice and a regular all season. But with the Cross Climate, I don't do that anymore. A friend has the Cross Climate 2 on her RAV4, in Florida, because it performs so well during the heavy thunderstorm downpours.
thanks for the reply. We get some pretty serious snow / ice here and as the rav comes with brand new micheline all seasons ill probly get the X snow ice for the winter @@jonmoceri
Thank you for the fantastic video! I've watched it multiple times and even shared it with a couple of friends. Based on your recommendation and taking advantage of a great promotion offered by dealer, I've chosen the Continental WinterContact TS870 (235/55/R19) for my Alfa Romeo Stelvio Q4 with 280hp. I can't wait to see how this combination performs on the winter roads!
please explain to me how in this test the Continental WinterContact TS 870 P comes so close to Michelin in show handling, but in the non SUV test (Best 11 Winter Tires for 2023/24) it just comes in 8'th
Loving your work, as always! Any thoughts on the best SUV European all-season tyre? Are they the same as for normal cars (Michelin Cross Climate 2, Goodyear 4Season Gen3, then the rest?). Thanks - need some for France this winter but want good wet grip too, living in UK, so favouring the Goodyear for my RAV4 AWDi
why always totally the same brands are being compared? why not further brands, and subbrands of main Brand (Falken, Debica, Rotalla, Fortune, Infinity, etc.)
There are pretty big tests on the site which highlight why the c heaper brands are often overlooked. www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2023-Winter-Tyre-Test-54-Set-Braking-Test.htm
I do not know if this is asked before, but I often go to Sweden and Norway in Spring and Summertime. Now I want to go in Winter, is it no problem and save to use a nokian hakkapelitta or other nordic tyre to ride from the Netherlands to the boat in Germany or Denmark. Many thanks
NO TEST ON ICE??? You can see the snow and slow down but you can get caught off guard by black ice, ice testing should be a major component of testing.
What an excellent review!!... not to say that you produces any bad review so far.🤣 Guess what I am going to suggest???.... Best SUV Winter against Best SUV All Season (All-Weather) like... the CrossClimate 2 SUV. Thank you so much for all the effort you have put in to give us these great information.
New subscriber here. You have probably talked about this in one of your videos, i just havent seen your explanation. Why are you not including ice breaking or ice handling scores? I put winter tires on my vehicles not only for better snow traction but primarily for better ice traction.
It is frustrating that some of these tires are not available in places. You should include tires from previous seasons in your future reviews. That way, if we cant get access to some of them, its possible to compare them to previous generations.
I’d be curious to know the temperature of the track during the dry tests. I feel that the hard compound of the cheap tires explains its dry performance and the poor performance of the better cold weather performers.
So which tires do you(Tyre Reviews) use on your Cayenne SUV? Thanks again for another great review. What tire would you recommend for the Pacific Northwest region(USA).
I'm actually just in the process of fitting my Cayenne with the Nokian Outpost nAT as I wanted a winter rated AT tire. My wifes SUV uses the CC2 as a winter tire in the salt lake region.
@@tyrereviews Thanks. Yes I was thinking about the CC2(from your last review). In the winter we only get maybe 1 or 2 weeks(if that) of the white stuff on the roads, mostly rain rain rain, and rarely below 0 C, so would the CC2 still be a good choice. I thought at one time you were running Continentals on your Cayenne. Thanks again.
Thanks for the test . Just bought the new Mazda CX90 and need winter tires. Sometimes it depends on availability. Because tires are 21 inch was going to go for the optional 19 in tire. Is a wider tire better in snow or a narrow tire. Your thoughts on which tire and narrow or wider?
Could you please do an Electric Vehicle tire review? I especially want to see the new Hankook iON EVO AS compared to previous “ECO” non EV tires for efficiency. If you can test it on a Tesla Model 3 that would be ideal for me. However, the Model Y is the best selling EV by far so that might be the best option now. Thank you for all of your hard work.
Thanks for interesting video, in future maybe Leao can be changed for Sailun. I would like to see Michelin CC2 vs Michelin Pilot Alpin 5 vs Michelin X-Ice Snow test that included ice. 🤗
Nice review! I'd love to see a light truck winter tire review for HD 3/4 and 1 ton 4x4 pickups. I haven't been able to find one and am going to need new snows for my 1 ton dually in the inland Pacific NW.
When doing the next winter tyre test, could you pls add the pirelli pzero winter? There is no real review for it and much less a comparison, but even though the modell is a few years old ive never driven a btter feeling winter tyre
Ive never driven the LM series for Bridgestone. What is their claim to fame over the other Blizzak tires? Im guessing the weird tire sizes these days? Huge rims etc.
I cannot find the winner on ContinentalTire's website, which shows the 'ContiWinterContact TS830 P', but not the 'WinterContact TS 870 P' as tested. Is this the winner here discontinued? The names are awfully similar, but they are indeed different, and confusing!
As a SUV owner, thank you for the additional SUV winter tire tests. This is the best tire review channel bar none.
it's not even close. This guy is THE authority on all things tires. have been following him for years. will continue to!
It would be interesting to see the difference to the nordic versions of the winter tyres. Such as Nokian Hakkapeliitta or Michelin X-Ice Snow.
I had the Hankook on an SUV , for about a month. They were useless in Nordic conditions, and I switched to Hakka R5 after that. Huge difference on snow and ice. But the Hakkapeliitta R5 is very bad at aquaplaning. One of the worst tires I've had in heavy rain.
th-cam.com/video/YNjVsdbD998/w-d-xo.html this test has the Conti from this test in, and a bunch of the nordics so you can cross reference
Just rewatched that video again for reference. Is there a resource available where we could possibly reference CE winter, soft compound, and studded tire geographical suggested areas. North Americans and Europeans may not be familiar with each place's geographical climates, and a reference guide might be handy for ex-pats and immigrants. Not that I'm suggesting that you should have to do it. You put a ton of work into these reviews, and you are my 1st stop for comparisons when tire shopping. Keep up the good work!@@tyrereviews
I do have a plan to make some sort of winter tire explainer video as there is a lot of confusion!@@matthewcarriker9810
@@tyrereviewsyes do explain, I am no expert , I live in Québec and our winters are also a mix. Powdered and wet snow, slush, 0 c to -40c, rain once or twice, lots of black Ice on overpass. My Hakka5 have phenomenal, but thinking of buying Michelin X-ice & snow this year for my new car. For example continental are considered good but not the best here in our area
I really miss the Ice driving test in this one. Winter annoyingly has it all, but the most worrysone moments are ice. Even in dry circumstances, you'll have ice collection near traffic lights as cars dump their water via the exhaust there. About 50 meters of it to the traffic lights. And of course when snow gets compacted to black ice which usually takes just one day. Happy to see Maxxis in the test. Off road possibly the best Mud and maybe AT tires, so good to see they are branching out and did a decent job. I assume they'll improve in the coming years and become one of the main brands where price and quality are best. I just bought the maxxis and Nokians, but mainly as there was nothing else available for my LC200, Prado 150 and Suzuki Grand Vitara. I do have older Miss Alpines, and despite having done 60k on them, i do have some trust left in them. Great tires. Thanks for the review, top quality as always.
Exactly, we miss the most important part, the ice test.
Yeah I would really like to see more maxxis tires in the comparisons
Would be good to see the studless category and the performance winters (this video) head to head on ice and snow. Even just one tire from each compared
Ahh, I wish you could've done ice also. hoping future vids show that. I'd love to see the Michelin X-ice, Bridgestone DM-V2, and Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5. Keep up the great work!
You are a legend. Thanks again for making these videos. It's invaluable material for us drivers trying to make the right safe choice. I had 4 Goodyear vector 4seasons gen 3 put on the family car this weekend. Compared to the Pilot sports Ive been using for years the car felt more softer, a bit squidgy but I will get used to that. but most importantly I know i can be confident that my family will be safe in wet or winter conditions, and that's what really matters. Even the tyre fitter said that these are the only tyres he uses for his family cars. thank you from a UK subscriber
Let me know how you like them after the winter :)
According to the subjective opinion of most people in my country, if we take premium tires, Goodyear UltraGrip Performance Plus SUV is considered a better option than Conti or Michelin. We often have “porridge” on our roads - a mixture of water, snow, sand and mud. + bad roads. It is believed that the TS 870 P and Pilot Alpin 5 SUV are better for the Eurowinter, where there is less snow and better roads.
The main complaint about Conti is that they wear out quickly. Most likely, this is due to the quality of the road surface.
Great review.
It would be good though if you state the temperature for the wet/dry testing. In this and the other winter/AS videos. If not below say 7 degrees doesn't it compromise the results given the optimal design parameters, and especially if doing any comparisons with summer tyres?
Slopes too - I've managed along flat sections in the snow ok with summer tyres before, after a suddenly flurry, but it's the traction uphill and breaking downhill that makes a difference and really matters. Great if you could get more of that in. It's hard to do everything, but I'd guess it's probably more useful to most than lap times on snow... if less fun :)
Great Review... a SUV All Season tire test would be great including the new Continental Allseasoncontact2 tire!
Love it. I’ve got the Contis predecessor on my SUV and I’m already very happy with it. Also I can underline the Bridgestone LM005 as a perfect Central Europe Winter tire, because it hardly ever snows and it rains all the time. I love these tests.
:D
Good call using the Bridgestones. They tend to be cheaper which is a factor and arguably more available. It can be quite hard to find the known brands Michelin, Pirelli and Conti…and then the price..
I was having a hard time choosing between Continental WinterContact TS 870 P and Bridgestone Blizzak LM005. But after, I made my decision and now I’m going to buy Continental WinterContact TS 870 P.
Cheers 🎉
So my take away is:
In order to improve rolling resistance it is very difficult not do a huge trade off (against wet / aqua / snow).
Alpin 5 was best in snow and other, because it kept to this rule.
However
Conti managed to improve RR without much tradeoff, which is nice.
That is correct yes. Not sure how Conti did it, but they did.
What's RR?
I will be getting these Continentals for this winter for my brand new hybrid 4wd CRV. The Rolling resistance was major factor as hybrid can go far on electric mode (not plug in version) the less resistance it has. Sure Alpin 5 has better noise reduction but at the cost of RR that is too high.
Great review, as always. Thank you for your hard and dedicated work. I'm sure it saves accidents and saves lives.
Hopefully!
Nice to see that Continental is back on Position 1. (i prefer the looks of Michelin though)
All these A-Brand tyres perform great ! and you can`t go wrong, it`s more what you prefer more or less.
Thank Jonathan for these video`s!
The best and greatest tyre-platform on TH-cam! (no bla bla, no bling bling) just yourself, great tyres and your tyre tessting experiences in a video --> Great💙 !!
Add a few brands because, for example, Hancook are great, but maybe their budget brand Laufenn is also interesting? And e.g. mid-range brands such as Matador, Uniroyal, Kleber, it would be nice to finally see them 🤩
Always grateful for all that you do, and I don't even live in an area that snows! You do so much and cover so many qualities that each tire brings and/or lacks. Have you ever considered using a family sedan for your all-season tire tests? Or will it not make a difference at all? Thank you so much for your time and your highly informative videos!
It shouldn't make a huge difference, we've used plenty of golfs which in a number of forms is also a sedan :)
@@tyrereviewsThank you and thanks for replying!
Thank you, thank you, thank you for getting right down to business. Too many yt'ers talk and talk and talk before getting to the point if there is one to make.
Hankooks seem to often be the greatest price/quality in general.
I'd love to see you be able to do dry testing in cold temperatures, where winter tires are more meant to be used
I think he was able to do that last year or the year before, where he did dry and wet in austria during below 10°C weather.
th-cam.com/video/bKtnczk8Mxk/w-d-xo.html this might also be interesting!
I have Conti TS 870P's fitted to both my Sedan (Audi A5 Quattro) & Mini SUV (Volvo XC40 AWD). Makes me a happy driver :). Wonderful review!
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Excellent! Thank you. Think you'll do all seasons for SUVs again?
Not this year, sorry
Would love to see how the X-Ice compares to the Pilot Alpin now... I'm on the fence!
X Ice much better in snow and ice, alpin much better in dry and wet and probably wear and rolling resistance.
@@tyrereviews thanks Jon
Living in Minnesota i got x-ice SUV on wife's Tuguan and X-Ice on my Golf R.
When you got that black ice or ice and slush or very cold temperatures and frozen snow you really feel the difference between them and performance oriented models.
I like Continental rim protection. It's a nice looking tire
You can't go far wrong with any of the brands in the headline. But people need to be educated on just how bad the budget tyres are in comparison
I know ppl who run on bald tires because they cannot afford new tires. Heck, I've even seen all 4 tires with the wires showing! They cannot afford to not have tires with some tread left but if all they can afford for their $200 beater are cheap tires, then I'm not going to judge them. Sometimes they even have to buy used tires, but yeah, I agree: always buy the best tires you can afford because medical bills can easily run into the thousands (in the US).
[I envy ppl in other countries who will look at this and laugh at how insane that our healthcare system still has not improved or catch up to Europe and others.]
got new set of Hankook icept last year and am really happy with them, but next year might get the continentals
so quickly ?
Great video! Gz continental with the win! Bought new Continental all season contact 2. Waiting review of this new Conti tire :)
There's a few appearing on the site and it seems very good
A very good review that provides clear opinions on a subject that is prone to get complicated. Answered every question on my mind. Nice driving by the way👍
Would love to see straight up comparos of the H/V rated snows vs. the S/T versions of the same brand. Like Pilot Alpin 5 SUV vs X-ICE Snow SUV.
Would be fun to do, it's on the list!
Would love to see van tyre tests. I think they get overlooked given the amount of vans on the road, I've had a company van for 13 years and drive 40k per year in all conditions, and they only fit mid range summer tyres, recently due to a mix up I was give premium all season tyres an the difference in the wet during summer was way better than the mid range Summer tyres I'm actually looking forward to the winter knowing I've got now decent tyres so a good comparison on van tyres would be great.
Autobild do one most years and I always put it on the site :)
I wonder why the Contis performed so poor in the aqua test? It must be the inverse result of the superior rolling resistance.
Fantastic! Thank you so much for this important information.
Glad it was helpful!
He should have tested the Bridgestone Blizzak WS90 and DMV2, and Michelin X-Ice available in the US but maybe not there?
I drive my 2013 Mazda CX-5 AWD on Blizzak WS90s -- fantastic on snow and ice. They are like a playground for this CUV! Could've picked DMV2 but the former had a slightly better rating.
X-Ice are said to be better performers, mainly regarding acceleration.
Any test data/recommendations for run-flat winter tires? Love the content, thanks for the work!
I've never tested them or seen them tested, the best assumption we have is that a good non-rft will be a good rft!
I like your black garage studio 🔥
I like you job man, what I miss would be Yokohama tier (v906). Don't know how it compares, but my subjective feeling on RAV4 is quite good for the money.
Hi,
I have been enjoying your reviews a lot.
There are brands of tyres that are quite big that they tend to be overlooked and I was curious to see them tested properly and honestly like you do.
Like of Sava, Barum, Debica, Kormoran, Fulda, Sumitomo.
If you did it in the past what is your opinion of them as I think they have giants like Goodyear, Continental etc behind them.
And what is happening with Dunlop?
Compare the top end tire of each brand Bridgestone ws90 or dmv2. Michelin xice 3 or xice 3.nokian 5:02 5:02 5:02 5:02 5:02 5:02 hakkapeliitta r5 or r10 . toyo observe gsi 5 or 6 . hankook ipike
I just replaced my bmw x3 RFTs with Continental Extreme Contact DSW 06 Plus. The ride is amazing, as I expected. Every new vehicle I’ve purchased over the past 15 years, I drove to Discount Tire the next day and put Continentals on it. Cannot match the ride as well as amazing handling. I’ve even taken off new Michelins and still got a better ride.
that's a great tyre :))
Going to fit Michelin on my macan, thanks to you! You’ve made my choice so much more easy, cheers!;)
I love so much your videos could you please make a video about affordable winter tires and making a ranking of the best affordable winter tires please
John the king of tire reviews
I wish you would have included the CC2 in the test.
Thanks for the video. One question, how come you didn’t reviewed blizzak dm-v2 instead which is specifically for SUVs?
That's a soft compound winter, these are milder winter options
Being a Canuck we have Michelin X-Ice SNOW SUV on two vehicles. They are made in Canada, eh!
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My daughter uses gt ice pro on her suv and uses them all year long and they last 3 years! She tries to slide but she can't. She passes jeeps and everyone that's stuck. Yet you never hear about them!
I have already fitted kleer quadraxer 3. But still have dunlop winter sport 5 almost 5 year-old tyre in case quadraxer fails to deal with the snow. Hope Poland will not be affected with rough snow next 3 winters....Kleber will not last more....
For the winter I am looking into 4 fresh Firestones Winterhawk 4 they are just as good as Bridgestone only cheaper
Think they should do a review for performance SUVs
Can’t wait for an episode of “The Best SUV 3 Peak Mountain Snow Flake A/T Tire in winter” Comparing tires like BFG KO2 (or newer KO3), Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac (without studs), Falken Wildpeak AT3W, Toyo Open Country AT3. Maybe even add Michelin LTX A/T 2 to the mix as many 4Runner owners swear about its winter performance even without 3PMSF rating.
Hi Jonathan, not to be a stickler, but driving on a wet road ad 5 degrees is different than driving on wet at 20 something degrees. Or am I mistaking?
Your wet test was done in warm weather.
Yes, nearly all tests are sadly as we can't control the weather.
Would you test Petlas Glacier W661 as a budget tire in the nordic winter tire test? The pattern of the tire is very impressive and it is widely sold where I am.
Petlas are a budget brand, I don't know much about that pattern but looking at the pattern it does look like a soft compound winter tyre.
The brands that always place well are ones I commonly recommend. I have to laugh that the "no name" or cheap Chinese tires are always as bad as you think they are. Can't personally believe people cheap out on tires. Great roundup as always!
Unfortunately, some ppl in the US sometimes only make minimum wage or got laid off and has to make every cent last. Also, hopefully ppl buying cheap tires will fund those companies better so that they'll become more competitive in the future or even come up with new technologies. I mean companies came up vulcanization, radial (vs bias) and their own unique compound and ratios and I look forward to newer and better technologies that the industry will adopt.
@@SayAhh True, but I too often see people driving an X6 or Escalade and have no name tires, with barely any thread on them. They are a danger to anyone on the road.
@@SayAhh "Also, hopefully ppl buying cheap tires will fund those companies better" - You are funding China by buying Pirelli, as they are Chinese owned, they do have access to the best Western technologies, yet they still make crappy tires, because they cheap out.
Great info!👏
Thanks for another great, subjective test. I struggle deciding whether to put winter or all-season tires on my mother's SUV because even in Michigan (USA) she’ll be driving on dry or wet roads at least 90% of the time. Anyway, thanks again.
CrossClimate 2
Its good to know that if i take complete leave of my senses and get a +2t monster truck that there are good quality tyres to rein in all that weight.
the new M3 is almost 2t, you don't need a monstertruck for weight anymore!
Very useful, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Great channel and videos. Subscribed!
I just bought Maxxis Premitra Snow, now i wait for the first snow to fall
Awesome- entertaining and professional content as always! I am quite impressed with Hankook to be honest, brings a lot to the table for it's price and I like that overall performance. Looking forward to next videos, hope to see ice testing back if it will be possible for you. Take care and keep up with great videos, cheers! :)
Hi, thanks for al the years of super content. For the new BMW X5 50e would you recommend the Michelin Alpin 5? Living in Belgium, 2x a year skiing in the Alpes. Sporty driver 😉
Keep up with your great work!
Would you still recommend the Conti for the new Cayenne S in a Central European climate (Germany, Luxembourg, Belgium)?
21 or 22inches?
Thanks!
Whichever you can get the better tires in :)
Fascinating review,best 22” winter tyre for Jaguar F Pace SVR? Suggestions please.
These are winter tyres, should you not test the tires below 7*C? Preferably, below 0*C too show the difference of the compounds at or below freezing. Canadian drivers above the 39th parallel want to know.
Thank you for this. Looking for some Michelin alpines now.
Just subbed. Love your channel. We live in Canada and I just bought a 2024 Rav4 hybrid awd and we get a good variety of snow / ice and slush. What do you recommend for snow / slush performance in the Micheline line? Im looking at Micheline X Ice -Snow, Alpin and Cross Climate 2?
I have the Cross Climate 2 on my 2019 Subaru Forester Sport. Perfect year round tire for Seattle and the snowy mountains. I'm amazed how well it performs in slush and deep water.
I used to switch between a winter tire like the X-ice and a regular all season. But with the Cross Climate, I don't do that anymore.
A friend has the Cross Climate 2 on her RAV4, in Florida, because it performs so well during the heavy thunderstorm downpours.
thanks for the reply. We get some pretty serious snow / ice here and as the rav comes with brand new micheline all seasons ill probly get the X snow ice for the winter
@@jonmoceri
Slush is difficult to test, but I imagine the CC2 would do fine in it. If you do get serious snow / ice then X-Ice is the only real option.
I've decided on the Michelin X ice Snow's
great video, thanks. Can you tell us for driving and safety mainly on wet surfaces whether you prefer to use 4_season or winter tyre?
4 season should have a slight advantage
Great review, but dry handling is exactly what I’m most interested in since I’m driving in the dry 90% of the winter.
Thank you for the fantastic video! I've watched it multiple times and even shared it with a couple of friends. Based on your recommendation and taking advantage of a great promotion offered by dealer, I've chosen the Continental WinterContact TS870 (235/55/R19) for my Alfa Romeo Stelvio Q4 with 280hp. I can't wait to see how this combination performs on the winter roads!
How have they been so far?
LOL he dead
Every video I’ve watch from you it’s always continental the winner.
Thank you!!!
Amazing work!
please explain to me how in this test the Continental WinterContact TS 870 P comes so close to Michelin in show handling, but in the non SUV test (Best 11 Winter Tires for 2023/24) it just comes in 8'th
Loving your work, as always! Any thoughts on the best SUV European all-season tyre? Are they the same as for normal cars (Michelin Cross Climate 2, Goodyear 4Season Gen3, then the rest?). Thanks - need some for France this winter but want good wet grip too, living in UK, so favouring the Goodyear for my RAV4 AWDi
Honestly disappointed there was no ice test, where i live we tend to get more ice than snow so its pretty important over here
why always totally the same brands are being compared? why not further brands, and subbrands of main Brand (Falken, Debica, Rotalla, Fortune, Infinity, etc.)
There are pretty big tests on the site which highlight why the c heaper brands are often overlooked.
www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2023-Winter-Tyre-Test-54-Set-Braking-Test.htm
I have continental, will stay with them
Many thx 4 that 🎉 I can buy my favorite branch and it won 😂
Alpine 5 offered a 275/45/20 that I needed
I do not know if this is asked before, but I often go to Sweden and Norway in Spring and Summertime. Now I want to go in Winter, is it no problem and save to use a nokian hakkapelitta or other nordic tyre to ride from the Netherlands to the boat in Germany or Denmark. Many thanks
Can you test Bridgestone DMV2 and Michelin LTX?
The diagrams make it appear like the tires have significantly different results, but that's because the x-axis of the diagrams doesn't start at 0.
NO TEST ON ICE??? You can see the snow and slow down but you can get caught off guard by black ice, ice testing should be a major component of testing.
What an excellent review!!... not to say that you produces any bad review so far.🤣 Guess what I am going to suggest???.... Best SUV Winter against Best SUV All Season (All-Weather) like... the CrossClimate 2 SUV. Thank you so much for all the effort you have put in to give us these great information.
NExt year I plan something similar
New subscriber here. You have probably talked about this in one of your videos, i just havent seen your explanation. Why are you not including ice breaking or ice handling scores? I put winter tires on my vehicles not only for better snow traction but primarily for better ice traction.
How about a budget studded vs top studded and have blizzaks as the winter. Like to see how much of a difference you will find in the studded ones.
sorry if I'm ahead of myself, was only interested in the snow performance. what psi did you use? did you try "low" psi?
It is frustrating that some of these tires are not available in places.
You should include tires from previous seasons in your future reviews. That way, if we cant get access to some of them, its possible to compare them to previous generations.
I’d be curious to know the temperature of the track during the dry tests. I feel that the hard compound of the cheap tires explains its dry performance and the poor performance of the better cold weather performers.
So which tires do you(Tyre Reviews) use on your Cayenne SUV? Thanks again for another great review. What tire would you recommend for the Pacific Northwest region(USA).
I'm actually just in the process of fitting my Cayenne with the Nokian Outpost nAT as I wanted a winter rated AT tire. My wifes SUV uses the CC2 as a winter tire in the salt lake region.
@@tyrereviews Thanks. Yes I was thinking about the CC2(from your last review). In the winter we only get maybe 1 or 2 weeks(if that) of the white stuff on the roads, mostly rain rain rain, and rarely below 0 C, so would the CC2 still be a good choice. I thought at one time you were running Continentals on your Cayenne. Thanks again.
Well, there's my actual Pilot Alpin 5 SUV this week kickin' butt again :)
As I said on the other video, absolutely love them on my Macan GTS.
It's a great tyre
Thanks for the test . Just bought the new Mazda CX90 and need winter tires. Sometimes it depends on availability. Because tires are 21 inch was going to go for the optional 19 in tire. Is a wider tire better in snow or a narrow tire. Your thoughts on which tire and narrow or wider?
What size wheel and tire are shown here? Have 18x8.5” wheels I want to run for winter on my identical Tiguan. Leaning toward the Michelin.
Recently I had an accident due to heavy snow don't why my car brakes blocked and started to slide may be Abs or traction control function?
Could you please do an Electric Vehicle tire review? I especially want to see the new Hankook iON EVO AS compared to previous “ECO” non EV tires for efficiency. If you can test it on a Tesla Model 3 that would be ideal for me. However, the Model Y is the best selling EV by far so that might be the best option now. Thank you for all of your hard work.
it's on the list for next year :)
@@tyrereviews thanks for all of your hard work.
Thanks for interesting video, in future maybe Leao can be changed for Sailun. I would like to see Michelin CC2 vs Michelin Pilot Alpin 5 vs Michelin X-Ice Snow test that included ice. 🤗
Nice review!
I'd love to see a light truck winter tire review for HD 3/4 and 1 ton 4x4 pickups. I haven't been able to find one and am going to need new snows for my 1 ton dually in the inland Pacific NW.
I have a mild all terrain snow test coming out soon!
cant wait@@tyrereviews
When doing the next winter tyre test, could you pls add the pirelli pzero winter?
There is no real review for it and much less a comparison, but even though the modell is a few years old ive never driven a btter feeling winter tyre
May I ask why Dunlop is never considered? e.g. Dunlow Winter Sport 5 SUV
Ive never driven the LM series for Bridgestone. What is their claim to fame over the other Blizzak tires? Im guessing the weird tire sizes these days? Huge rims etc.
I cannot find the winner on ContinentalTire's website, which shows the 'ContiWinterContact TS830 P', but not the 'WinterContact TS 870 P' as tested. Is this the winner here discontinued? The names are awfully similar, but they are indeed different, and confusing!