10 brake stops, avged out with robots applying the brakes. This serious level of geekiness and detail to maximise consistency is top notch. highly highly appreciate this video!!!
@@ProjectExMachina Agree on this, since braking performance of most UHP tyres seems to improve with increasing temperature, while in real life you'll likely do just one emergency stop, not ten of them, which means your tyres are actually cold in wet with no chance to warm up as in repeated braking testing.
The amount of effort this guy puts in testing these tires.. he deserves a million subs unlike that TFL channel who only tests 3 tires of the same brand and calls it a day.😐
Again and again, Jonathan shows what happens when you mix equal parts passion, geekiness and attention to detail: Pure excellence that is easily understood and relatable. He could apply this to anything he wanted to. We are just lucky he feels this way about tires! Bravo on another excellent and informative video!
@@paulusrumanouw3176 Go check the swiss non profit TCS wich has the most respected and established tire testing program, they almost never rate goodyears as high as this chanel constently does, wouldn't be surprised to learn that all this is a Goodyear pr stunt
I don't think too many people would appreciate the insane effort that must go into a video like this. So, thank you for doing it for our enjoyment (and education).
I don't need UHP tyres but I still watched,with interest, til the end. These videos and the website are a breath of fresh air. Commitment, passion, knowledge and great presenting style. Excellent, many thanks.
Brilliant! Was procrastinating watching your videos earlier then saw this drop and now I'm getting even less work done. People like me who enjoy driving, even in normal road cars, would be so lost without this channel. Thank you.
You really don't get enough recognition or thanks for the sheer amount of time and effort that goes into these tyre reviews. No one else does it quite like you and for people like me who care about the only thing keeping them on the road, it's really appreciated. Keep up the amazing work
After watching this video, I've bought the Hankook Ventus S1 Evo3 RFT* at 225/45/18 and 255/40/18 dimensions for my F30 3.20i and I'm absolutely thrilled with it. I've used Bridgestone Potenza RFT* and Pirelli Cinturato P7 RFT* before these and I must say that the Evo3 blew me away. It might be a psychological "new-tyre effect" but I'm really pleased with them. I've never considered Hankook to be a premium brand but after seeing that tread pattern in person and trying them on, I was sold. Also, thanks for the great video. I really hate asking tyre dealerships about different aspects of tyres because they're always trying to push either the most expensive or the most-stocked option they have. Since I only buy new tyres every 3-4 years, I can't be and shouldn't be expected to become an expert on them. So these videos have been great for a tyre noob like myself.
Awesome, I'm glad you like it! I've no experience with runflats, so it's good to read. If you get some time please leave a / some reviews over at www.tyrereviews.com for everyone to see :)
First off, I love this channel. No bias, no crap just testing and results. Tires are probably the hardest thing to test because of all the variables (size, environment, car etc.) and cost but Tyre Review basically eliminates them all. Second the PS4S are hands down my favourite tire for where I live since we get a lot of rain and some sun. It’s very grippy in the rain and has low noise and good ride comfort. It also has a really nice sidewall design too
Not easy to condense so much information in a format that does not turn into a “death by powerpoint” presentation, and/or a 3 hour long movie. Well done, to the point, and indepent. Scores. 👍 well done ! 👏
Everyone is talking about suspension, lap times and digital applications of sporty cars but nobody talks about tires. This channel and this video are highligy underrated! Thank you and thumbs up
It is Bridgestone then. The way tyre response to milimetric steering inputs, road feedback and on-limit dry handling skills are most important for me. For sports tyres, i put outright driving fun slightly above the safety and comfort properties. Thanks for the incredibly detailed and nicely crafted test.
@@tyrereviews just got them fitted on my front axle a week ago(i had ps4s previously), it's excelent in the wet, very pointy in dry and wet, warms up quicker than ps4s for sure, very good high speed stability compared to the ps4s's side wall. Has a little less feel while loaded in the corner i would say. Noise and comfort i didnt notice too much of a difference, slightly yes, you can feel a bit more imperfections on the road but it still absorbs them not crashes over them. Straight line acceleration(fwd) feels a bit better too 🤔. Oh and morning temperatures we have atm are around 10°C atm and it still has good levels of grip before warming up, its understeer biased like ps4s while not warmed aswell. Oh braking feels amazing aswell 1.2-1.3G on stock brakes.
Your reviews are epic. I can't believe Goodyear allow you to use their own testing with all the competition, just shows how confident they are that their tyres are some of the best!
@@truthseeker8483 no just facts. They do well wherever he tests them. Obviously Goodyear's tyres will have been tested and developed on Goodyear's own tracks, but the results would be similar on the Dunlop testing track or Mitchelin test tracks
@@truthseeker8483 wow you are quite the cynical one aren't you? Does it come naturally to think cynically like so or were you paid by one of the other tyre makers? I hope you are paid which then makes sense otherwise it must be so tiring on those around you for you thinking and living the way you do. lol good luck with your life.
Been waiting a while to ingest this. It's as good as I'd hoped. In the realm of 'independant product testing' you have to be up there with the very best. All of the geeky info is included, shortcuts are not taken, but it is still delivered in an enjoyable and succinct package. A+.
Some surprising results here, and glad to see the PZ4 (guess it's Sports version) and Bridgestone tested by you. Absolutely fantastic content, many thanks for all the efforts! 👍🏻
I've been going back to the asymmetric 5 in 225/40 R18 over and over again. I do 30,000 miles per year - and lots of it on tight, twisty, and often wet Cumbrian roads, and they just make me smile! They give me tonnes of confidence, grip and feel, and they last better than previous UHP tyres I've tried from Falken and Vredstein, all whilst being relatively affordable. Downside is I find them really rather noisey, but it's worth it.
@@alextzan I have driven them about 9000 kilometres. The Goodyear is significantly quieter than the other brands I had on the car. I am still very happy with them.
Your the one that deserves the medal. Tyres are soo important for all types of vehicles, so its important to be given a non biased opinon based on testing them in the best possible environment . Nothing is ever perfect, but your reviews are as close as it gets.. Bravo 👏. Legend!
@@She1lby I am using Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3 runflat. 225/50 R17. I have previously had Bridgestone Potenza S001 and Pirelli P7 Cinturato. The Goodyear is miles better than either of those two. I value comfort, quietness, longevity and steering feel. The Goodyear ticks all the boxes for me.
@@She1lby The comfort is good. They feel just as comfortable as my Uniroyal Rainsport 3 tyres. Noise is absolutely fine. Better steering feel than the Uniroyals so that was a selling point for me. Also just as good in the wet from tests I've seen
I had the Altenzo Sport Comforter+ on my BMW 550i when I bought it, I thought they were ok, not great just ok. When I needed new tyres I got a set of the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 and the difference was massive. I am supper impressed with the Michelin's, much more difficult to break traction now in all conditions, more precise and overall noise and comfort is 100% better. I really appreciate the work you put into reviewing some many tyres. I used the info in this video to help inform my decision of which tyres to get.
I asked before and I ask again: PLEASE MAKE SIMILAR TEST OF 14-15-16 INCH TYRES for small cars, since half the world drives on them, and results can be very different. My tyre size is 185/60R14. Please include all-seasons too then. Thank you so much! Great video. You're the very best tyre reviewer on youtube. The level of consitency and details is so important to differentiate the bad and the good. Keep up the good work!!
Wow, this is the most comprehensive video about tyres I have ever had the good fortune to watch. Amazing production values and super informative, thank you all so much.
Really appreciate the information. For someone who is not going to the track but wants a great performance tire on the street in a myriad of conditions, your tests hit all the major points that make a difference. THANKS!
Another amazingly deep and detailed review, I love the data table in the middle. Interesting that Michelin have a harder rubber on the 4S compared to the 4.
Great independent testing , this is the most trusted tire review channel in my opinion . Thank you for your detailed analysis , I look forward to your next video.
Just bought a set of Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5 because of this. Transformed my 2018 330e after switching from stock (pretty much worn out) run flats. The F1s just soak up the small bumps so nicely while still feeling so precise and fun to drive in the corners.
From a video last year, on your recommendation I swapped from potenza runflats, to non runflat asymmetric 5. So much feedback in both wet and dry. More confidence in wet. Car fitted to is BMW 125D with staggered 225/40/18 and 245/35/18.
Wow thank you for the mega review. One thing that I really like and I'd like to highlight. Not all tyres are made equal. Data and maths are one thing, but feedback, safety feeling and subjective feeling are still very important. Going fast is one thing, going fast being nervous with a twitchy car is another thing. And this review, with one car and so much choice really shows that you might have a chassis no matter what, Golf or Gt3 RS, 4 rubber circles is what could do a very, very, very big difference in handling, but also safety when enjoying our toys. So once again thank you and shout out for your skills 👏👏
Just through my experience, and I might get criticized, but Hankook is just a powerhouse on wet braking. It's the most important criteria I consider for tires and always get the best for my wife's car when it's time for new tires.
Hi and thanks for your review! I bought the Hankook and change my pzero's on my e46 m3. For me it is cheaper, but better performs and the noise level is awesome! Next time i go always with Hankook ;-) Greets from Bavaria
Dude.....insane commitment to tire testing. Some big tire co needs to hire you! I don't know how you keep all the data straight in your head. So good, it's hard to follow bc no tire is great at everything. Keep up the great work. Know that US guys are watching but we don't get all the tires that Europe does.
@@tyrereviews I've had them on previous cars and rate them highly for my type of driving. Then seeing your video, just backs up what I'm sticking with. Once the tyres on my current car need replacing (end of the summer) Will be going for a set of Asymmetric 5's.
@@tyrereviews Went to buy the Goodyear Asymetrics for my 335d. BUT can't find any in my size. 255/30/20. Wipes tear from left eye. So now I'm looking at Continental Sport Contact 6
Thanks for all your time and priceless information, I confirm that i made a good purchase over Goodyear asymetric 5 for my 16 Suzuki Kizashi (234/45R18), overall the car change in every aspect on the road from stock tires. Thanks Again!
Great test, thankyou for the detailed tables including tyre weight, this video gives the type of information that entusiasts couldn't find even after spending hours looking on the net, so much better to make an informed choice 👍👀🙂
Thanks for the deep dive again, Jonathan! I've actually listened to your advice on the Maxxis HP5 for my daily runner E46 and they do perform exceptionally well and they were much cheaper than the Conti's I've always fitted on my cars.
Keenly awaiting the Potenza Sport to arrive in Australia, it'll be the only non-semi slick UUHP tyre available in 17" here as neither the Eagle F1SS or PS4S are offered in sizes below 19" here (excluding a handful of odd OEM sizes in 18" for the PS4S)
It was really interesting to see the Eagle F1 SS "falling off" so much in the Wet compared to the tests you've done with it before in a different size. There's something i'd be curious about when it comes to the new Potenza. When you say that the tyre does need a bit of heat does that mean that just rolling around with the tyre for let's just say 10 minutes or something (without any considerable cornering or braking, just the utmost casual driving) is enough to have it switched on? Or would you say that you need to work a bit to have it switched on like taking a bunch of corners/braking progressively before you can really trust the tyre? This Test was pretty much everything i've hoped for and even more. Amazing content, once again!
*@Tyre Reviews* I'd be curious too. A tyre i would have to put work into to get it going, at least at a decent enough level, isn't something i'd be interested in for the street personally. Otherwise i could just put on a CUP2 and call it a day, if Wet Performance wouldn't be an criteria of course...
I was surprised the F1 Supersport, did not do better in the wet. I love this tyre because it is so good on cold, wet track days in the UK. In 235/40/18, it is amazing in the wet.
I fit F1 Supersports to my BMW 120d last season. Staggered. Below 10 degrees C ambient they are far off their warm performance. Not a real problem for sensible daily motoring. They let go "early", but are still progressive and controllable. In wet weather, around 5 degrees C...the transition is more abrupt. Been hammering about in 15-20 degrees in wet weather lately, and the wet grip is high. Surprisingly high, in contrast to 5 degree wet weather. They can handle summer trackdays, at least with my safe-but-fun driving style. If the cold weather performance was better, I expect they'd die on trackdays. Living in Denmark, I run winter tyres October to May, when the temperatures are under 5, and often freezing!
For daily driver its Michelin PS4. No weakness & best at road driving risk - wet handling. Safest tyre with excellent performance. (when are you really, i mean really going to need grip? the wet) I recommend everybody use them.
@@respirotyper929 Depending on the weather! Im saying for most people on the road the PS4 is the best tyre. Its attributes make it the safest tyre. What it loses in dry performance it makes up in the wet. And that where most need it. (while still being a top 5 dry perf).
@@MrBrunchbreaker Yes, it's very unfortunate. Fortunately, track day tyres like the Hankook RS4 and similar are usually still available in 15" & 16" for MX5s and the like. :)
The thing is with the Michelin PS4, you can enter a corner in heavy rain and the person next to you thinks you are going to crash. But it just grips up and you go tru without any issues. It gives so much trust and feedback you feel like your driving in the dry. It feels strange.
Without a doubt. I took my MX5 around Donington after fitting 4 new MPS4 and it was hammering it down but felt like I was driving I. the dry. Unbelievable levels of grip and confidence that you get.
I ordered PS4S tires and I get them installed next week! The Continental extreme contact sport is probably the best bang for your buck though (not in the video). They handle way better in the rain than the Michelin’s. Look at the comparison on car and driver, they also out brake the Michelin’s too. www.caranddriver.com/features/a15092360/2017-performance-summer-tire-test-feature/ I put 30,000 on the continentals and i cannot recommend them enough
Thanks for including the GT Radial sportactive 2 in this test! I bought these for my F10 lci after your review. As you mentioned these are some really quite tyres
Stunning video. The editing was spot on, all the right detail included and a great round up. You've done well to condense it down to a 14 minute edit and still retain the scale and detail by using the graphics. Have you considered doing a video using a couple of tyres, but three different sizes for each to demonstrate how size can affect tyre dynamics? Some cars will have options of 18", 19" or 20" rims, but presumably the same rolling diameter and therefore sidewall variation which could show interesting results. I'd love to see a video on pressures too and how that can be used to affect balance and manage the tyres better on track, though I appreciate that may be a bit too niche. I've gone from the PS4 to the F1SS based on your comparison of the PS4S and F1SS and I found the Goodyear to be tricky in the wet and far more resilient to track work than the Michelin.
I have a pressure video coming, and I've actually got a 17 vs 18 vs 19 inch wheel test on the channel, it's an older video though. Also, if you get the time I'd love to see a review of the 4s and f1ss at www.tyrereviews.com ❤
Very interesting and detailed test. Great content! Bought de Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 5 last year after seeing the previous comparison test. It has been an awesome tyre so far.
@@jeronimjurakovic2919 They give a real secure feeling on the road. Very steady and you really feel the grip. You really feel what the car is doing. As I went from an old car with 14" wheels (which was quite comfortable) to a newer car with 18" wheels and sporty suspension you really feel the bumps in the road. But for being a sporty tyre in size 18" comfort still is quite good.
The Avon ZV7 gets a review.. finally! It seems you found similar story to me, decent in the dry, grippy but nothing special. In the wet where the water kept that soft rubber a bit cooler though they performed much better. Best tyre ive ever tried for comfort though.
thanks a lot, just what i´ve needed. Im about to buy 225/45/17 tires on my car and i didnt know what to buy. i knew that the Michelin ps4 was awesome, but it is a bit too expensive, i was willing to pay for that premium if necesary, but after watching this, i have no doubts on what to buy: Goodyear F1 asymetric 5. At least in my country it is MUCH CHEAPER, it has good and sporty handling on dry, good handling on wet, good braking distances, and decent confort. Thank you for the video, keep it up!
Thanks a lot for the extensive review, for a person who live in a dry country, I guess my next tyre (soon) is going to be the Goodyear SS or the Bridgestone sport.
Imo - Michelin ps4 I use these on my 335 and diesel fiesta and there are defo the best all rounder. Wet grip which as a daily or I like the feed back you know where you are with these, Motorbike pirelli rosso corsa 2 but it only comes out in the dry. Never use run flats, less grip, worse drive, less mileage. High purchase cost. Good video again bro your attension to detail is spot on.
Those GY EF1 AS5 do an excellent job on my MX-5 RF. The car isn't that great to handle if you use "unbalanced" tires, even Mazda's OEM tires (Bridgestone P S001) are a nightmare among most Miata ND/RF drivers in cold and rainy weather, so you need to be very careful when you are looking for a replacement. Goodyear's Eagle F1 makes me feel safe under all driving conditions. Thumbs up. On top of that the AS5 is cheaper than Michelin's PS4.
Thanks again for your always wonderful, forensic analysis of UHP tyres. I recently fitted a set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tyres (215/45x18) to my 2017 Mazda3 SP25GT (Australian spec) based on an earlier review by yourself. Unusually for Australia, in this particular size, the tyres are made in Spain, not Thailand, as seems to be the norm here. They’re fitted to a slightly wider (7.5”) rim which seems to have given the car just slightly more responsiveness. I couldn’t be happier with the choice. They’ve transformed the car, especially in the wet. Thank you.
Yeah, I had a set of PS4 on my MX5 before the current F1 Asy5s, and the wet handling of the Michelins is just out of this world. You often don‘t really feel like you‘re driving in the wet at all.
@@JP.708 it’s an NC3 2l w/ an Öhlins R&T. Warning: the following observations are very subjective and not in any way scientifically measured! 😉 The PS4 were _very_ nice, especially coming from the old Bridgestones. Very safe, unagitated, predictable, high levels of grip, but also a bit… plain and boring. Very little tread wear, too! Maybe a bit _too good_ all around for a fun car, because they never really gave you that adrenaline kick. The F1Asy are more direct on turn in, and definitely a bit less smooth, with even some more dry grip, especially once they are warm, but a good bit less wet grip. Their breakaway behavior is a bit more sudden and jerky than with the Michelins, but not uncomfortably so. They feel a bit more crashy on bad roads, but you also get more feedback through the steering wheel. Don’t have them long enough to comment about wear, I only put them on last summer, and apart from one trip through the Vosges, Alps and Black Forest, I didn’t drive my car a lot since then because of the microbiology situation.
@@Runoratsu thanks for the insight! I'm in the market for an NC myself and have been reading up on what rubber would suit it best. Do you have any other tips for an NC hunter? 😁
@@JP.708 Ummm… not really I guess 😅 forum.miata.net/vb/ has always been a great resource for me. I chose an PRHT model because I daily it (when there‘s no pandemic, at least), and it‘s a viable car even when it‘s snowy (w/ good winter tyres). You‘ll probably want to fix the suspension if you‘re interested in a sporty car-mine came with the upgraded stock suspension (the Bilsteins), and even those were too soft for me, both in turns as well as how it dives under braking and acceleration. The seats are super comfy, but from ~6ft+ you might not be able to heel&toe with the stock seats & steering wheel, at least for me it‘s impossible, my right knee is trapped by the steering wheel and doesn‘t allow me to turn my leg enough. Front visibility is somewhat poor, the NC has thick pillars, and such a low frame that it‘s almost impossible to see high traffic lights and stuff when the roof is up, you might want to check if that works for you. Wrangle the rear view mirror as far up as it will go or even turn it upside down! The boot is actually a decent size and with the top up, the top storage area can be used as an additional, sizeable storage area in a pinch. If you go PRHT, the Smart Top module is godsent, even at its high price. Hmm, that‘s all I can think of right now, unless you have any specific questions.
@@JP.708 Oh, and keep in mind not all models come with the locking rear diff. I‘d make sure the one you‘re buying does, unless you only want it as a cruiser. At its light weight, it‘s prone to spin up its rear tyres in a bend even with its meager power and WITH the locking diff (when you want it to. It is fun!), I‘m pretty sure w/o it the inner rear wheel would light up all the time for me.
Have to say im very impressed with the amount of work, value and thought in this video! The data given, the calculations, the different areas covered. Even how much the tyres protect the alloys etc. Amazing!
Another top quality comparison. Very interested to see/hear more about the Bridgestone as my car runs a 17" wheel which until that came out has limited me to a ps4 or assym5.
After burning trough Continental, Bridgestone and Dunlop tyres, Michelin 4 and 4s have been fantastic and long lasting. While expensive the tread is deep and didn't degrade the performance as much long term.
@@HarryG98 yeah right! How drifting events? Burnout contest??? I've done 30k on my p4s tires, and dig race my highly modified twin turbo 335i. My rears are looking worn only just now. And I've also done 4 Appalachian mountain runs with my supercar friends. I'm not a conservative driver. Quite the opposite... so maybe you, and your friend have alignment issues. But I have 630flbs of torque, and 540hp. My wallet will cry soon. Cause it's time for a new set. But I see no other tire worth my money. I need an aggressive grip tire that does it all. P4s for the win!
@@frankdogg75 probably due to rim size I imagine. Also not a pissing contest, I couldn’t care less about your car. Round some bends or a track I’d embarrass you
My experience is mostly with e89 Z4 and some with new 330i. Contis were great but only 5.5mm of tread to start comparing to 8mm. Have to take into account that Michelin were the newest compound and hence lasted longer. Was thinking about new Eagle F1s but wet breaking in UK is paramount.
@@HarryG98 I also have a track car. That's just my daily driver. Why would you track any tires on this list anyway? These are street tires. You don't know me. Or what I have. I'd gladly except your challenge. You won't be embarrassing me. I own 3 modified M cars as well. I was simply saying with my aggressive foot, and high hp, I've managed to still have tread after 30k miles. I'm not sure why you felt the need to act the way you are towards me.
Bought the Potenza sport as a result of the last video. Found them underwhelming in corners, same levels as the Asymetric 5. But haven’t had the chance to properly warm them up, guess that explains it.
Jonathan, at 07:12, there seems to be a discrepancy between the graphics and the times presented for the Hankook and Nokian. They are awarded with the same times as the Continental and the Michelin PS4.
You make the best tyre reviews!!! Immensely grateful for the hard work you put into these reviews. I have learned so much and benefited in making much better tire purchasing decisions. Thanks !!!
Great effort! Happy to see the PZ4s doing well as they came on my car and there's lots of negative opinions out there about P Zeros in general. They certainly feel good to me in a fairly heavy and reasonable powerful (340bhp) RWD car.
It would definitely be of huge interest to have an idea of how well the top tires perform as they age and wear down. This is a very important criterion that almost always gets overlooked; many tires in my experience have been wonderful the first couple mm of tread only to completely drop off (and needing constant rebalancing) halfway through their lifecycle.
I just found your channel today and instantly subbed because of how you present your content. But MAN I wish you had some Yokohamas in these tyre reviews, they seriously need to be pitted against these brands and these tyres.
@@tyrereviews Sweet video! Been holding off buying a new set of tires while waiting for this video. I use my RS Trohpy 300 as daily driver and never plan on tracking it (yes shoot me). I was so into potenza sport but seeing the low starting depth, rolling resistance and ''bad'' behavior in rain makes me wonder if I shouldn't go for the PZ4 or the even more expensive PS4s.. I'm rocking 20'' wheels and the pz4 is 190 euros each and ps4s is 240. I drive about 10.000 km every year and I don't really want to buy a new set of tyres every year.
@@ZekeMagnum why discount the F1SS? That would be my choice for track work. If you're going to track it, the wear of the Bridgestones on track aren't the best
Lol... Been checking since mid-late April!! Also very similar thought process. Wanting a "great all rounder" for daily "road" use only, in dry and wet weather uk, for my next car due by July. Had pz4's (hn) on my current i30N performance pack from new in 2017 and ditched them at 3-4mm, due to crap wet grip, for ps4s's which are much better. I'd heard pirelli had improved the pz4 but this sounds night and day! Aquaplaning results rules it out though. The Goodyear f1 supersport and Bridgestone potenza sport, in this specific test/size, have slightly disappointed me. Want predictable grip without spikey oversteer or understeer and consistency without needing to heat up the tyres. Rim protection is always a bonus too😉 Think I've narrowed it down to ps4s's again or asymmetric 5🤔. The latter's favourable rim protection and novelty value might have won? Will be going on a GR Yaris Convenience Pack.
Great review as always! Bridgestone Potenza Sport or Michelin Pilot Sport 4 (not S), for a daily use Audi TT Quattro 8N..? I can't decide..! (I live in Greece, so the weather is mostly dry)
Great review, thank you so much for this, thank you for performing this on a GTI and with this popular tyre size! I find it quite interesting to see a tyre to improve in wet braking with increasing temperature. I always thought it would be this way. This test convinces me to go with the PS4S instead of the PS4, as the penalty in daily driving abilities and esp. wet performance is quite marginal. I'll go with 235/40 R18 instead of 225/40 R18 though, despite the 235 is only available in XL 95Y DT1 interation. Anyway, thanks to Michelin for finally releasing 18" versions of the PS4S!
Great great job Jonathan and the team! Thanks, you reinforced my willing to get the tires I was thinking about for my Giulia 280CV :) A suggestion for the next test: measure the thread depth before and after the tests, to give us an idea of the tyre wear.
10 brake stops, avged out with robots applying the brakes. This serious level of geekiness and detail to maximise consistency is top notch. highly highly appreciate this video!!!
There's a lot of geek in tyre testing that doesn't get appreciated, it's geek heaven :)
I would prefer 12 runs then discarding the best and the worst result and find the average of the remaining 10
@@ProjectExMachina Agree on this, since braking performance of most UHP tyres seems to improve with increasing temperature, while in real life you'll likely do just one emergency stop, not ten of them, which means your tyres are actually cold in wet with no chance to warm up as in repeated braking testing.
@@930engineering8 😂 If you have UHP tyres you don't need hard breaking often then you are doing something wrong.
Just kidding 😌
@@ProjectExMachina Braking :p
The amount of effort this guy puts in testing these tires.. he deserves a million subs unlike that TFL channel who only tests 3 tires of the same brand and calls it a day.😐
TFL are great guys though :)
That's the difference between niche and general
@@apocalypse487 yes, like blue, red and green coloured lightsabers are general, but purple is niche ;)
@@tyrereviews you're reply to this comment has earned you a follower sir
@@kalumsmithson9816 Thanks!
Again and again, Jonathan shows what happens when you mix equal parts passion, geekiness and attention to detail: Pure excellence that is easily understood and relatable. He could apply this to anything he wanted to. We are just lucky he feels this way about tires! Bravo on another excellent and informative video!
Wow, thank you!
Very well said, agree 100%
He shows what happens when you drive a slow lame car. Why not use a performance car when testing performance?
This guy deserves to have some major sponsors !
Thanks :)
Yes he does but I hope not, so he remains objective! Sorry. 😆
@@paulusrumanouw3176 Isn't Goodyear letting him use their facilities akin to sponsorship ?
@@romteb nope cuz it doesn't benefit him financially. Plus he had tested in other brands facilities too.
@@paulusrumanouw3176 Go check the swiss non profit TCS wich has the most respected and established tire testing program, they almost never rate goodyears as high as this chanel constently does, wouldn't be surprised to learn that all this is a Goodyear pr stunt
I don't think too many people would appreciate the insane effort that must go into a video like this. So, thank you for doing it for our enjoyment (and education).
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great Edutainment indeed 👍👌
I don't need UHP tyres but I still watched,with interest, til the end.
These videos and the website are a breath of fresh air. Commitment, passion, knowledge and great presenting style.
Excellent, many thanks.
Glad you like them!
The sheer amount of testing for one video is beyond impressive. I can't get enough of this channel. Best mod for your car is always tires!
Thank you very much!
Brilliant! Was procrastinating watching your videos earlier then saw this drop and now I'm getting even less work done. People like me who enjoy driving, even in normal road cars, would be so lost without this channel. Thank you.
I hope you enjoyed it :)
You really don't get enough recognition or thanks for the sheer amount of time and effort that goes into these tyre reviews. No one else does it quite like you and for people like me who care about the only thing keeping them on the road, it's really appreciated. Keep up the amazing work
I appreciate that!
Love the weights of the tyres the tyre protection levels and the depths of the threads. Brilliant.
After watching this video, I've bought the Hankook Ventus S1 Evo3 RFT* at 225/45/18 and 255/40/18 dimensions for my F30 3.20i and I'm absolutely thrilled with it. I've used Bridgestone Potenza RFT* and Pirelli Cinturato P7 RFT* before these and I must say that the Evo3 blew me away. It might be a psychological "new-tyre effect" but I'm really pleased with them. I've never considered Hankook to be a premium brand but after seeing that tread pattern in person and trying them on, I was sold. Also, thanks for the great video. I really hate asking tyre dealerships about different aspects of tyres because they're always trying to push either the most expensive or the most-stocked option they have. Since I only buy new tyres every 3-4 years, I can't be and shouldn't be expected to become an expert on them. So these videos have been great for a tyre noob like myself.
Awesome, I'm glad you like it! I've no experience with runflats, so it's good to read. If you get some time please leave a / some reviews over at www.tyrereviews.com for everyone to see :)
We deserve a medal for watching? YOU deserve a medal for making this video! Hands down the best tyre channel around..great video mate
Legend!
Oh yeah - finally the test we've been waiting for :) Respect for completing such a huge undertaking of organizing and testing everything.
I hope you enjoy :)
First off, I love this channel. No bias, no crap just testing and results. Tires are probably the hardest thing to test because of all the variables (size, environment, car etc.) and cost but Tyre Review basically eliminates them all.
Second the PS4S are hands down my favourite tire for where I live since we get a lot of rain and some sun. It’s very grippy in the rain and has low noise and good ride comfort. It also has a really nice sidewall design too
Michelin do win on sidewall design for sure :)
Not easy to condense so much information in a format that does not turn into a “death by powerpoint” presentation, and/or a 3 hour long movie. Well done, to the point, and indepent. Scores. 👍 well done ! 👏
Thanks :)
Everyone is talking about suspension, lap times and digital applications of sporty cars but nobody talks about tires. This channel and this video are highligy underrated! Thank you and thumbs up
Agreed :D
THE GURU has spoken. Again, 100% professional work. THANK YOU 👍🇫🇮🥇
🙌
It is Bridgestone then. The way tyre response to milimetric steering inputs, road feedback and on-limit dry handling skills are most important for me. For sports tyres, i put outright driving fun slightly above the safety and comfort properties. Thanks for the incredibly detailed and nicely crafted test.
Let me know how you get on with them!
I'm going to test the Bridgestone too ;)
@@opskier2 Keep me updated :)
@@tyrereviews just got them fitted on my front axle a week ago(i had ps4s previously), it's excelent in the wet, very pointy in dry and wet, warms up quicker than ps4s for sure, very good high speed stability compared to the ps4s's side wall. Has a little less feel while loaded in the corner i would say. Noise and comfort i didnt notice too much of a difference, slightly yes, you can feel a bit more imperfections on the road but it still absorbs them not crashes over them. Straight line acceleration(fwd) feels a bit better too 🤔. Oh and morning temperatures we have atm are around 10°C atm and it still has good levels of grip before warming up, its understeer biased like ps4s while not warmed aswell. Oh braking feels amazing aswell 1.2-1.3G on stock brakes.
Your reviews are epic. I can't believe Goodyear allow you to use their own testing with all the competition, just shows how confident they are that their tyres are some of the best!
Goodyear did very well in the test....coincidence?
@@truthseeker8483 no just facts. They do well wherever he tests them. Obviously Goodyear's tyres will have been tested and developed on Goodyear's own tracks, but the results would be similar on the Dunlop testing track or Mitchelin test tracks
@@LawrenceTimme Goodyear paying you as well? amazing
@@truthseeker8483 clearly. Thats why I run crossclimates and Uniroyal rain expert on my cars!
@@truthseeker8483 wow you are quite the cynical one aren't you? Does it come naturally to think cynically like so or were you paid by one of the other tyre makers? I hope you are paid which then makes sense otherwise it must be so tiring on those around you for you thinking and living the way you do. lol good luck with your life.
So much information and you make it digestible. I'll hopefully make a choice after my 3rd or 4th watch as I keep changing my mind as I watch.
I decided to buy the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5 thanks to your reviews. I am very happy with this tyres! Thank you!
Glad you like them! If you get the time please leave a review on www.tyrereviews.com 😁
Been waiting a while to ingest this. It's as good as I'd hoped. In the realm of 'independant product testing' you have to be up there with the very best. All of the geeky info is included, shortcuts are not taken, but it is still delivered in an enjoyable and succinct package. A+.
Thank you :) I've not seen many other videos, anyone you recommend?
Some surprising results here, and glad to see the PZ4 (guess it's Sports version) and Bridgestone tested by you. Absolutely fantastic content, many thanks for all the efforts! 👍🏻
Much appreciated!
You've published the most comprehensive and complete test on the entire web. I'm very happy to have the access to your reviews. Awesome work!
I've been going back to the asymmetric 5 in 225/40 R18 over and over again. I do 30,000 miles per year - and lots of it on tight, twisty, and often wet Cumbrian roads, and they just make me smile! They give me tonnes of confidence, grip and feel, and they last better than previous UHP tyres I've tried from Falken and Vredstein, all whilst being relatively affordable. Downside is I find them really rather noisey, but it's worth it.
Thanks for sharing! If you get the time please leave a review on www.tyrereviews.com 😁
The best tire channel ever !! Keep it up man :=)
Glad you enjoy it!
I have been using Goodyear Eagle F1s for 5 months now based on the reviews from this channel. Absolutely brilliant tyre.
Glad you like them :) If you get the time I'd love to see a review at www.tyrereviews.com ❤
Are they noisy?
@@alextzan I have driven them about 9000 kilometres. The Goodyear is significantly quieter than the other brands I had on the car. I am still very happy with them.
@@mso8190 thanks
Your the one that deserves the medal. Tyres are soo important for all types of vehicles, so its important to be given a non biased opinon based on testing them in the best possible environment . Nothing is ever perfect, but your reviews are as close as it gets.. Bravo 👏. Legend!
Just bought Goodyear Eagle F1 5, so I'm pretty happy they've done so well. Great video for us tyre nerds
18? How about noise / comfort bro?
@@She1lby I am using Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3 runflat. 225/50 R17. I have previously had Bridgestone Potenza S001 and Pirelli P7 Cinturato. The Goodyear is miles better than either of those two. I value comfort, quietness, longevity and steering feel. The Goodyear ticks all the boxes for me.
@@She1lby The comfort is good. They feel just as comfortable as my Uniroyal Rainsport 3 tyres. Noise is absolutely fine. Better steering feel than the Uniroyals so that was a selling point for me. Also just as good in the wet from tests I've seen
@@She1lby 225/45/17
Glad you like them :) If you get the time I'd love to see a review at www.tyrereviews.com ❤
I had the Altenzo Sport Comforter+ on my BMW 550i when I bought it, I thought they were ok, not great just ok. When I needed new tyres I got a set of the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 and the difference was massive. I am supper impressed with the Michelin's, much more difficult to break traction now in all conditions, more precise and overall noise and comfort is 100% better. I really appreciate the work you put into reviewing some many tyres. I used the info in this video to help inform my decision of which tyres to get.
You man should have at least 5 mil subs your videos are awesome
Thanks :)
I asked before and I ask again: PLEASE MAKE SIMILAR TEST OF 14-15-16 INCH TYRES for small cars, since half the world drives on them, and results can be very different. My tyre size is 185/60R14. Please include all-seasons too then. Thank you so much!
Great video. You're the very best tyre reviewer on youtube. The level of consitency and details is so important to differentiate the bad and the good. Keep up the good work!!
There's a big test of 16 inch tyres on the channel from last year :)
Whenever there's a new video by tyre reviews I'll be like thumbs up before watching 😄
Wow, this is the most comprehensive video about tyres I have ever had the good fortune to watch. Amazing production values and super informative, thank you all so much.
Wonderful stuff. I think tyre companies are upping there game based on reviewers like this. Keep it up please!
I hope so :)
Holy crap, what an undertaking!! This test isn't even applicable to me but it's crazy that it's been done.
This is what we've all been waiting for.
I've not watched it yet, but I've dropped a like already for the effort 💯 👌🏼
I appreciate that
@@tyrereviews Really good video mate! Great information and well discussed.
Great video and analysis. Nice to see a UK channel at the forefront of tyre reviewing.
Thanks :D
Just had 4 Goodyear asymmetric 5 fitted 255/35/19. Very happy with my choice
Perfect tire testing I have seen so far from any independent testers.. Bravo
As always I'm amazed by the amount of effort you guys put into the making of these videos.
Our pleasure!
Really appreciate the information. For someone who is not going to the track but wants a great performance tire on the street in a myriad of conditions, your tests hit all the major points that make a difference. THANKS!
Another amazingly deep and detailed review, I love the data table in the middle. Interesting that Michelin have a harder rubber on the 4S compared to the 4.
Mr.Benson smashed it again, well done.
Thank you sir
Great independent testing , this is the most trusted tire review channel in my opinion . Thank you for your detailed analysis , I look forward to your next video.
Thank you very much!
Just bought a set of Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5 because of this. Transformed my 2018 330e after switching from stock (pretty much worn out) run flats. The F1s just soak up the small bumps so nicely while still feeling so precise and fun to drive in the corners.
Are they noisy as the review says ?
@@alextzan They are very quiet compared to the run flat tyres that came with the car. I don't really have anything else to compare them to though.
From a video last year, on your recommendation I swapped from potenza runflats, to non runflat asymmetric 5. So much feedback in both wet and dry. More confidence in wet. Car fitted to is BMW 125D with staggered 225/40/18 and 245/35/18.
Thanks for sharing! If you get the time please leave a review on www.tyrereviews.com 😁
Wow thank you for the mega review. One thing that I really like and I'd like to highlight. Not all tyres are made equal. Data and maths are one thing, but feedback, safety feeling and subjective feeling are still very important. Going fast is one thing, going fast being nervous with a twitchy car is another thing. And this review, with one car and so much choice really shows that you might have a chassis no matter what, Golf or Gt3 RS, 4 rubber circles is what could do a very, very, very big difference in handling, but also safety when enjoying our toys. So once again thank you and shout out for your skills 👏👏
Thank you for the kind words :)
Man I actually love the content of this channel
:D
Just through my experience, and I might get criticized, but Hankook is just a powerhouse on wet braking. It's the most important criteria I consider for tires and always get the best for my wife's car when it's time for new tires.
Hi and thanks for your review!
I bought the Hankook and change my pzero's on my e46 m3.
For me it is cheaper, but better performs and the noise level is awesome!
Next time i go always with Hankook ;-)
Greets from Bavaria
Dude.....insane commitment to tire testing. Some big tire co needs to hire you! I don't know how you keep all the data straight in your head. So good, it's hard to follow bc no tire is great at everything. Keep up the great work. Know that US guys are watching but we don't get all the tires that Europe does.
Another excellent and informative video. You have just backed up my choice fir my next set. Good Year asymmetric 5
Let me know how you like them :)
@@tyrereviews I've had them on previous cars and rate them highly for my type of driving. Then seeing your video, just backs up what I'm sticking with. Once the tyres on my current car need replacing (end of the summer) Will be going for a set of Asymmetric 5's.
@@tyrereviews Went to buy the Goodyear Asymetrics for my 335d. BUT can't find any in my size. 255/30/20. Wipes tear from left eye. So now I'm looking at Continental Sport Contact 6
Thanks for all your time and priceless information, I confirm that i made a good purchase over Goodyear asymetric 5 for my 16 Suzuki Kizashi (234/45R18), overall the car change in every aspect on the road from stock tires. Thanks Again!
Great test, thankyou for the detailed tables including tyre weight, this video gives the type of information that entusiasts couldn't find even after spending hours looking on the net, so much better to make an informed choice 👍👀🙂
I'm a tyre geek so I provide as much tyre geek information as possible :)
Thanks for the deep dive again, Jonathan! I've actually listened to your advice on the Maxxis HP5 for my daily runner E46 and they do perform exceptionally well and they were much cheaper than the Conti's I've always fitted on my cars.
Glad you like them, leave a review on www.tyrereviews.com if you've not already! Just keep an eye on wear
Excellent review once again! Really impressed by the Goodyear F1 Supersport!
The blind test is the best method I've ever seen
Keenly awaiting the Potenza Sport to arrive in Australia, it'll be the only non-semi slick UUHP tyre available in 17" here as neither the Eagle F1SS or PS4S are offered in sizes below 19" here (excluding a handful of odd OEM sizes in 18" for the PS4S)
Fitted with Goodyear asymmetric 5 after your videos. Many thanks!
Good choice! When you have some miles on them if you get the time I'd love to see a review at www.tyrereviews.com ❤
It was really interesting to see the Eagle F1 SS "falling off" so much in the Wet compared to the tests you've done with it before in a different size.
There's something i'd be curious about when it comes to the new Potenza. When you say that the tyre does need a bit of heat does that mean that just rolling around with the tyre for let's just say 10 minutes or something (without any considerable cornering or braking, just the utmost casual driving) is enough to have it switched on? Or would you say that you need to work a bit to have it switched on like taking a bunch of corners/braking progressively before you can really trust the tyre?
This Test was pretty much everything i've hoped for and even more. Amazing content, once again!
I couldn't tell you without testing, I am curious at how it works on a cold winters day though
*@Tyre Reviews*
I'd be curious too. A tyre i would have to put work into to get it going, at least at a decent enough level, isn't something i'd be interested in for the street personally. Otherwise i could just put on a CUP2 and call it a day, if Wet Performance wouldn't be an criteria of course...
I was surprised the F1 Supersport, did not do better in the wet. I love this tyre because it is so good on cold, wet track days in the UK. In 235/40/18, it is amazing in the wet.
I fit F1 Supersports to my BMW 120d last season. Staggered. Below 10 degrees C ambient they are far off their warm performance. Not a real problem for sensible daily motoring.
They let go "early", but are still progressive and controllable.
In wet weather, around 5 degrees C...the transition is more abrupt.
Been hammering about in 15-20 degrees in wet weather lately, and the wet grip is high. Surprisingly high, in contrast to 5 degree wet weather.
They can handle summer trackdays, at least with my safe-but-fun driving style. If the cold weather performance was better, I expect they'd die on trackdays.
Living in Denmark, I run winter tyres October to May, when the temperatures are under 5, and often freezing!
Potenza are awful tyres, ditch finders
Excellent review
Bridgestone Potenza Sport all day long 🔥
For daily driver its Michelin PS4. No weakness & best at road driving risk - wet handling. Safest tyre with excellent performance. (when are you really, i mean really going to need grip? the wet) I recommend everybody use them.
@@fredfinks that’s a soft and weak tyre, rather the PS4S.
Potenza Sport all day long for every driving situation 🤩
@@respirotyper929 Depending on the weather! Im saying for most people on the road the PS4 is the best tyre. Its attributes make it the safest tyre. What it loses in dry performance it makes up in the wet. And that where most need it. (while still being a top 5 dry perf).
@@fredfinks ok 👍🏽
It would be very interesting for many people to do a 15"/16" uhp/sport tire test
Most UHP Tyres are not available in these sizes.
@@MrBrunchbreaker Yes, it's very unfortunate. Fortunately, track day tyres like the Hankook RS4 and similar are usually still available in 15" & 16" for MX5s and the like. :)
The best channel about tyres in the world !
Great effort
Best and only :D
The thing is with the Michelin PS4, you can enter a corner in heavy rain and the person next to you thinks you are going to crash. But it just grips up and you go tru without any issues. It gives so much trust and feedback you feel like your driving in the dry. It feels strange.
Without a doubt. I took my MX5 around Donington after fitting 4 new MPS4 and it was hammering it down but felt like I was driving I. the dry. Unbelievable levels of grip and confidence that you get.
I so badly want these tires for my S5. I imagine it'd be like on rails with the AWD
I've got 4 on one car and 4S on my other, the 4S are even better!
I ordered PS4S tires and I get them installed next week! The Continental extreme contact sport is probably the best bang for your buck though (not in the video). They handle way better in the rain than the Michelin’s. Look at the comparison on car and driver, they also out brake the Michelin’s too. www.caranddriver.com/features/a15092360/2017-performance-summer-tire-test-feature/
I put 30,000 on the continentals and i cannot recommend them enough
@@HotHatchHero how are you getting on with the 4S vs. The Conti's?
Thanks for including the GT Radial sportactive 2 in this test! I bought these for my F10 lci after your review. As you mentioned these are some really quite tyres
Glad you like them!
Stunning video. The editing was spot on, all the right detail included and a great round up. You've done well to condense it down to a 14 minute edit and still retain the scale and detail by using the graphics.
Have you considered doing a video using a couple of tyres, but three different sizes for each to demonstrate how size can affect tyre dynamics? Some cars will have options of 18", 19" or 20" rims, but presumably the same rolling diameter and therefore sidewall variation which could show interesting results.
I'd love to see a video on pressures too and how that can be used to affect balance and manage the tyres better on track, though I appreciate that may be a bit too niche.
I've gone from the PS4 to the F1SS based on your comparison of the PS4S and F1SS and I found the Goodyear to be tricky in the wet and far more resilient to track work than the Michelin.
I have a pressure video coming, and I've actually got a 17 vs 18 vs 19 inch wheel test on the channel, it's an older video though.
Also, if you get the time I'd love to see a review of the 4s and f1ss at www.tyrereviews.com ❤
Insane! This must have taken so much time and money to make. Thanks for the best tire buying guide on the Internet. Wow, just wow.
My pleasure!
Very interesting and detailed test. Great content!
Bought de Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 5 last year after seeing the previous comparison test. It has been an awesome tyre so far.
Glad you're enjoying it, I'd love it if you could leave a review at www.tyrereviews.com if you get some time :)
Hello, are they comfortable on the road more than others that you had before?
@@jeronimjurakovic2919 They give a real secure feeling on the road. Very steady and you really feel the grip. You really feel what the car is doing.
As I went from an old car with 14" wheels (which was quite comfortable) to a newer car with 18" wheels and sporty suspension you really feel the bumps in the road. But for being a sporty tyre in size 18" comfort still is quite good.
Pilot Sport 4s. The legend will own them all. Best tyre ever.
The Avon ZV7 gets a review.. finally! It seems you found similar story to me, decent in the dry, grippy but nothing special. In the wet where the water kept that soft rubber a bit cooler though they performed much better. Best tyre ive ever tried for comfort though.
Thanks for sharing! If you get the time I'd love to see a review at www.tyrereviews.com ❤
thanks a lot, just what i´ve needed. Im about to buy 225/45/17 tires on my car and i didnt know what to buy. i knew that the Michelin ps4 was awesome, but it is a bit too expensive, i was willing to pay for that premium if necesary, but after watching this, i have no doubts on what to buy: Goodyear F1 asymetric 5. At least in my country it is MUCH CHEAPER, it has good and sporty handling on dry, good handling on wet, good braking distances, and decent confort.
Thank you for the video, keep it up!
Glad I could help!
Thanks a lot for the extensive review, for a person who live in a dry country, I guess my next tyre (soon) is going to be the Goodyear SS or the Bridgestone sport.
Imo - Michelin ps4 I use these on my 335 and diesel fiesta and there are defo the best all rounder. Wet grip which as a daily or I like the feed back you know where you are with these, Motorbike pirelli rosso corsa 2 but it only comes out in the dry. Never use run flats, less grip, worse drive, less mileage. High purchase cost.
Good video again bro your attension to detail is spot on.
Those GY EF1 AS5 do an excellent job on my MX-5 RF. The car isn't that great to handle if you use "unbalanced" tires, even Mazda's OEM tires (Bridgestone P S001) are a nightmare among most Miata ND/RF drivers in cold and rainy weather, so you need to be very careful when you are looking for a replacement.
Goodyear's Eagle F1 makes me feel safe under all driving conditions. Thumbs up. On top of that the AS5 is cheaper than Michelin's PS4.
Thanks for sharing! If you get the time please leave a review on www.tyrereviews.com 😁
Thanks again for your always wonderful, forensic analysis of UHP tyres. I recently fitted a set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tyres (215/45x18) to my 2017 Mazda3 SP25GT (Australian spec) based on an earlier review by yourself. Unusually for Australia, in this particular size, the tyres are made in Spain, not Thailand, as seems to be the norm here. They’re fitted to a slightly wider (7.5”) rim which seems to have given the car just slightly more responsiveness. I couldn’t be happier with the choice. They’ve transformed the car, especially in the wet. Thank you.
Glad you're enjoying them :D
Yeah, I had a set of PS4 on my MX5 before the current F1 Asy5s, and the wet handling of the Michelins is just out of this world. You often don‘t really feel like you‘re driving in the wet at all.
Which mk mx5 do you have and how do the two compare on it? Does one or the other suit it better? Thanks
@@JP.708 it’s an NC3 2l w/ an Öhlins R&T.
Warning: the following observations are very subjective and not in any way scientifically measured! 😉
The PS4 were _very_ nice, especially coming from the old Bridgestones. Very safe, unagitated, predictable, high levels of grip, but also a bit… plain and boring. Very little tread wear, too! Maybe a bit _too good_ all around for a fun car, because they never really gave you that adrenaline kick.
The F1Asy are more direct on turn in, and definitely a bit less smooth, with even some more dry grip, especially once they are warm, but a good bit less wet grip. Their breakaway behavior is a bit more sudden and jerky than with the Michelins, but not uncomfortably so. They feel a bit more crashy on bad roads, but you also get more feedback through the steering wheel. Don’t have them long enough to comment about wear, I only put them on last summer, and apart from one trip through the Vosges, Alps and Black Forest, I didn’t drive my car a lot since then because of the microbiology situation.
@@Runoratsu thanks for the insight! I'm in the market for an NC myself and have been reading up on what rubber would suit it best. Do you have any other tips for an NC hunter? 😁
@@JP.708 Ummm… not really I guess 😅
forum.miata.net/vb/ has always been a great resource for me.
I chose an PRHT model because I daily it (when there‘s no pandemic, at least), and it‘s a viable car even when it‘s snowy (w/ good winter tyres).
You‘ll probably want to fix the suspension if you‘re interested in a sporty car-mine came with the upgraded stock suspension (the Bilsteins), and even those were too soft for me, both in turns as well as how it dives under braking and acceleration.
The seats are super comfy, but from ~6ft+ you might not be able to heel&toe with the stock seats & steering wheel, at least for me it‘s impossible, my right knee is trapped by the steering wheel and doesn‘t allow me to turn my leg enough.
Front visibility is somewhat poor, the NC has thick pillars, and such a low frame that it‘s almost impossible to see high traffic lights and stuff when the roof is up, you might want to check if that works for you. Wrangle the rear view mirror as far up as it will go or even turn it upside down!
The boot is actually a decent size and with the top up, the top storage area can be used as an additional, sizeable storage area in a pinch.
If you go PRHT, the Smart Top module is godsent, even at its high price.
Hmm, that‘s all I can think of right now, unless you have any specific questions.
@@JP.708 Oh, and keep in mind not all models come with the locking rear diff. I‘d make sure the one you‘re buying does, unless you only want it as a cruiser. At its light weight, it‘s prone to spin up its rear tyres in a bend even with its meager power and WITH the locking diff (when you want it to. It is fun!), I‘m pretty sure w/o it the inner rear wheel would light up all the time for me.
Have to say im very impressed with the amount of work, value and thought in this video! The data given, the calculations, the different areas covered. Even how much the tyres protect the alloys etc. Amazing!
Another top quality comparison.
Very interested to see/hear more about the Bridgestone as my car runs a 17" wheel which until that came out has limited me to a ps4 or assym5.
It's an interesting tyre for sure
Magnificent work! Well done and thank you!
OK, enough of that! Next, all the famous, and infamous, track tyres!
Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
After burning trough Continental, Bridgestone and Dunlop tyres, Michelin 4 and 4s have been fantastic and long lasting. While expensive the tread is deep and didn't degrade the performance as much long term.
Michelin 4 lasting long? Me and a few people I know have burned through sets in 5,000 miles. Eagle F1s last much better
@@HarryG98 yeah right! How drifting events? Burnout contest??? I've done 30k on my p4s tires, and dig race my highly modified twin turbo 335i. My rears are looking worn only just now. And I've also done 4 Appalachian mountain runs with my supercar friends. I'm not a conservative driver. Quite the opposite... so maybe you, and your friend have alignment issues. But I have 630flbs of torque, and 540hp. My wallet will cry soon. Cause it's time for a new set. But I see no other tire worth my money. I need an aggressive grip tire that does it all. P4s for the win!
@@frankdogg75 probably due to rim size I imagine. Also not a pissing contest, I couldn’t care less about your car. Round some bends or a track I’d embarrass you
My experience is mostly with e89 Z4 and some with new 330i. Contis were great but only 5.5mm of tread to start comparing to 8mm. Have to take into account that Michelin were the newest compound and hence lasted longer. Was thinking about new Eagle F1s but wet breaking in UK is paramount.
@@HarryG98 I also have a track car. That's just my daily driver. Why would you track any tires on this list anyway? These are street tires. You don't know me. Or what I have. I'd gladly except your challenge. You won't be embarrassing me. I own 3 modified M cars as well. I was simply saying with my aggressive foot, and high hp, I've managed to still have tread after 30k miles. I'm not sure why you felt the need to act the way you are towards me.
Always enjoy your reviews as a tyre geek I find it a fascinating subject, let's see a budget tyre shoot out the more garbage the better !
Bought the Potenza sport as a result of the last video. Found them underwhelming in corners, same levels as the Asymetric 5. But haven’t had the chance to properly warm them up, guess that explains it.
Let me know how you find them once warm!
Much appreciated review of performance tires. Thank you for testing the UUHP group
Jonathan, at 07:12, there seems to be a discrepancy between the graphics and the times presented for the Hankook and Nokian. They are awarded with the same times as the Continental and the Michelin PS4.
Graph error, sorry :(
@@tyrereviews ditto for the dry braking graph - its got the wrong axis labels - should be metres rather than seconds to lap
You make the best tyre reviews!!! Immensely grateful for the hard work you put into these reviews. I have learned so much and benefited in making much better tire purchasing decisions. Thanks !!!
Glad to help!
You are the best! Well done ✔️ 👍 ✅ ☑️. Thank you for your great effort.
I completely agree with my countryman. You are THE ABSOLUTE WORLD AUTHORITY on all sorts of automobile tyres, Jonathan.
Thanks guys, appreciated :D
Great effort! Happy to see the PZ4s doing well as they came on my car and there's lots of negative opinions out there about P Zeros in general. They certainly feel good to me in a fairly heavy and reasonable powerful (340bhp) RWD car.
The best parts are when he goes into falsetto.
lol
Quality content as always! Best tyre content related channel on TH-cam hands down!
Glad you think so!
It would definitely be of huge interest to have an idea of how well the top tires perform as they age and wear down. This is a very important criterion that almost always gets overlooked; many tires in my experience have been wonderful the first couple mm of tread only to completely drop off (and needing constant rebalancing) halfway through their lifecycle.
Wear doesn't get overlooked, it's just really expensive and time consuming to do properly :(
@@tyrereviews We still appreciate you
I'm currently looking for high performance summer tires for my Subaru, thank you for all the reviews on your channel!
Makes it a little easier anyways
Just got the Bridgestone Potenza Sport for my FN2 CW. I’m shocked on how good they are.
Plan to do any track driving?
@@tire_reviews I would like to. This really feels like a track tire, it’s amazing.
@@respirotyper929 let me know if you do, and keep an eye on wear
@@tire_reviews ok, no problem!
I just found your channel today and instantly subbed because of how you present your content. But MAN I wish you had some Yokohamas in these tyre reviews, they seriously need to be pitted against these brands and these tyres.
I know! I'm always trying to get them involved! I've A052s in a test this week
Finally! 😍 been refreshing youtube ever day this week
Hope you enjoyed it!
@@tyrereviews Sweet video! Been holding off buying a new set of tires while waiting for this video. I use my RS Trohpy 300 as daily driver and never plan on tracking it (yes shoot me). I was so into potenza sport but seeing the low starting depth, rolling resistance and ''bad'' behavior in rain makes me wonder if I shouldn't go for the PZ4 or the even more expensive PS4s.. I'm rocking 20'' wheels and the pz4 is 190 euros each and ps4s is 240. I drive about 10.000 km every year and I don't really want to buy a new set of tyres every year.
@@ZekeMagnum why discount the F1SS? That would be my choice for track work. If you're going to track it, the wear of the Bridgestones on track aren't the best
@@tyrereviews No tack work. Just as a daily in both sun and rain, so that's why I didn't include the f1ss
Lol...
Been checking since mid-late April!!
Also very similar thought process. Wanting a "great all rounder" for daily "road" use only, in dry and wet weather uk, for my next car due by July.
Had pz4's (hn) on my current i30N performance pack from new in 2017 and ditched them at 3-4mm, due to crap wet grip, for ps4s's which are much better. I'd heard pirelli had improved the pz4 but this sounds night and day! Aquaplaning results rules it out though.
The Goodyear f1 supersport and Bridgestone potenza sport, in this specific test/size, have slightly disappointed me. Want predictable grip without spikey oversteer or understeer and consistency without needing to heat up the tyres. Rim protection is always a bonus too😉
Think I've narrowed it down to ps4s's again or asymmetric 5🤔. The latter's favourable rim protection and novelty value might have won?
Will be going on a GR Yaris Convenience Pack.
Thanks to you! Calling this just an informative video, would be the understatement of the century!
Great review as always! Bridgestone Potenza Sport or Michelin Pilot Sport 4 (not S), for a daily use Audi TT Quattro 8N..? I can't decide..! (I live in Greece, so the weather is mostly dry)
PS4 for comfort, Potenza for handling
Voll is on the money
What a staggeringly well put together video. Thanks for putting the time and effort in
Great review, thank you so much for this, thank you for performing this on a GTI and with this popular tyre size! I find it quite interesting to see a tyre to improve in wet braking with increasing temperature. I always thought it would be this way. This test convinces me to go with the PS4S instead of the PS4, as the penalty in daily driving abilities and esp. wet performance is quite marginal. I'll go with 235/40 R18 instead of 225/40 R18 though, despite the 235 is only available in XL 95Y DT1 interation. Anyway, thanks to Michelin for finally releasing 18" versions of the PS4S!
Nice, let me know how you find it :)
Great great job Jonathan and the team! Thanks, you reinforced my willing to get the tires I was thinking about for my Giulia 280CV :)
A suggestion for the next test: measure the thread depth before and after the tests, to give us an idea of the tyre wear.
Track wear != road wear, so it's information we can't give sadly as it would be too confusing