Meeting Reed: 0:00 Our first meet: 0:06 Weird of you to reach out: 0:22 Sounds menacing: 0:38 This some sort of interrogation: 1:22 Gonna help me after all: 1:40 Need my help again: 1:59 Right about what: 2:31 Thanks: 2:39 That i didn’t expect: 2:46 Know what it’s like: 3:21 Don’t sound like you’re admitting: 3:56 So what now: 4:27 Nah: 4:54 You’ll make a good mentor: 5:18 What am i to say: 5:53 CORPO option: 6:09 Thank me with a beer: 6:48 Good luck, you will need it: 6:59
"I hate to break it to ya, but you're no Morgan Blackhand." Says an exhausted Fedboy to a man who hunts BARGHEST batallions for sport and os capable of killing Adam Smasher with a rubber sex toy.
Kinda wish we could get a call from him and saying how surprised he was from you going one man army against one of the most powerful corporations in the world
To be fair I read somewhere that Blackhand was someone with very less chrome on him...... whereas by the time you fight Arasaka, V is probably one of the most chromed out individuals on the planet :p
@johndee277 FIA agents are stubborn, Alex doesn't listen, Reed won't stand aside, So Mi would rather die than go back to Myers. I like Reed and Alex, enough to regret either one dying, but nowhere near enough to justify handing Rosalind Myers a living WMD she can abuse.
@@thefracturedbutwhole5475 Agreed there completely. The Cynosure ending is my ending of choice. Maybe its more accurate to say Alex ia thw closest I come to a regret. She did pick her fate, I did try to warn.
They really fucking nailed the music in this game, from the hectic music as you run through the stadium after helping Songbird/reed to finding So Mi in the Cynosure core.
In a way, I think him saying that V was a miserable excuse for an FIA agent is actually a roundabout compliment. Because in this ending, I think he realises how callous Myers is, what she did and how far she pushed Songbird until So Mi genuinely thought death was a better alternative than going back to Myers as a prisoner. And that while V did the wrong thing as an FIA agent, V still spared Songbird from a far worse fate that she would have been given had V followed the orders given. He even seems to lose faith in the FIA to the point of considering going rogue, and his admittance that V was right does seem to support the notion that he no longer sees the agency as the be all and end all when it comes to choosing what to do.
00:04:57 When Vi tell him to leave the FIA, Reed says "do the same as Morgan Blackhand", which means that Morgan Blackhand was at some point working for NUSA, Militech, ...and yes, we know about the bomb, but his rebuttal implies that Morgan Blackhand survived, and then left the FIA/Militech/NUSA.
The bomb at Arasaka tower wasn't Johnny's operation, he was a back up/distraction, it was Morgan Blackhand's op for Militech. The engram of Johnny Silverhand on the relic has had their memories and personality altered, to be less volitile/more controllable and more skilled in combat (by making him think he played Blackhand's part in the mission) as part of Yorinobu's plan to use Johnny's engram to help cripple Arasaka.
@@californiansniper2133 If V completes Path of Glory plus all side missions, their biography will actually state as a new merc legend replacing Morgan Blackhand
Reed in this ending has finally woken up ,i lack the verbal know how to explain how , but you can tell He's finally free I think he's upset that song had to die for him to to realize it
Man i wish i could remind Reed he got cooked by 3 Arasaka goon on a train while we stormed Arasaka HQ, solo, while being half dead and then SMOKED Adam Smasher.
As far as i know Adam Smaher was using almost a mech size cutting edge suit that was one of Arasaka's super weapons of war so Morgan Blackhand not beating Adam Smaher in 2023 is understandable to say the least
"You`re no Morgan Blackhand" Me: *maxed out every stat with mods, Sandevistan, Legendary implants and having killed Adam Smasher at least 100 times.* try me...
In this ending he clearly had a character development. You can see what a sad excuse for a man he becomes when he returns to Langley. A dude that has become fat and sad even somewhat begging for V to stay at Langley and work for the FIA behind a desk so he doesnt feel lonely. If you want to have the best ending for Reed then this one is the go-to.
After all the ending-conversations with Myers, Reed, Alex and So Mi, I think the best ending is to screw over Myers, headshot Reed, get Alex retired and send So Mi to moon. Especially the dialogue of Reed in this ending... who does he think handled MaxTec?!
Nah, fuck Songbird, she's manipulative and doesn't care at all about V. Sending her off to moon is what I call "Simp ending". She literally fucks you over not once, not twice, not even three times, but four times at the very least, and you still do her bidding. I'd rather give her off to Reed, but that ending still sucks because you give him and Myers what they want. In my opinion, this is the best ending. You don't let Songbird manipulate you, you screw over Myers and you allow Reed to see beyond FIA. Alex dies, yes, that is the worst part about it, but it was the only ending where I really felt like I did everything right and had a clear conscience. I didn't let anyone fool me, I had everything under control and I did the best moral choices.
@@Magnus8434Songbird doesn’t care about V? Who do you think saves V’s ass in that bunker? And from who do you find out the truth about the neural- matrix? Songbird is a complicated character so labelling everyone who chose to side with her as “simps” is just another way to say “I didn’t understand much of the deeper meaning of the story” Edit: Grammar
@@Rumx1412 you do realise she did all that because she needed V? She did recruit him/her for a reason, ofc she would try to help them, but it was only to reach her goals.
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@@Magnus8434 Why would So Mi(in her most vulnerable state both physically and mentally on the train)confessed to V that there's only 1 cure if she's a manipulative POS ? Isn't that just dumb ? why wouldn't she just got on the shuttle and not tell V at all(or tell V after she got to the moon) It's as if these are incredibly complex and nuance character. And the game is testing your level of empathy. to see if you can understand her plight as a survivor like yourself. Having her memories being taken while still being alive. Can you look past her betrayal and set a broken bird free despite no reason to. The game repeatedly show you that you have friends and comrades you can rely on. Vik and Misty are there UNCONDITIONALLY. Who does So Mi have ? No one. IMO, on that train ride. So Mi knows she's going to die soon. She even mouth so before going unconcious.And after she saw how our V fought through hell and earth for her.She decide to trust V with the truth. By confessing to V, She has basically leaving her fate and the cure in V's hand. Knowing full well that you're free to sell her out and she can't fight back. To say that sending So Mi to the moon is the "simp ending" is incredibly reductive. And a travesty to this amazingly dense and nuance story that CDPR has weaved.
@@Rumx1412 So mi is in a situation similar to V, she is dying and needs help, best way to get it? Betray those using her so she can try and save her own life. Granted she does lie to V but you can literally tell at the end she doesn't want to lie anyone and regrets doing so, she did confess there is only 1 cure but she put her entire trust in V because you are in a similar situation. In my first playthrough of the game and the dlc i went off the basis of "i want to live as V" and in doing so i got So Mi's ending because it felt the best ending for that playthrough, you go all the way through trying to live and do everything u can to keep trying to survive and in doing so you go against Reed who in this video literally blames you despite him failing and being lied to by the ppl who betrayed him once before and now being surprised he was lied by them again, you have alex survive and get a retirement, So Mi is on the moon and isn't being used as a weapon and in the future she could be a ally to V if say V goes with the nomads and needs help and they get in touch considering So Mi owes V her life, and Myers can't strip you of anything nor do anything to you
I've got a mod idea where you can actually send Reed to the Afterlife as a merc, then he can see V's inner Morgan Blackhand first hand in helping to raid Arasaska Tower in the DFTR ending
He blames you but he was the one who acted without fully understanding the situation and because of that Songbird lost control and the AI took was able to take over.
Songbird lost control because of Songbird, it's quite a stretch to somehow blame Reed for her letting lose the blackwall and warning Kurt about Alex thereby getting her killed.
Wrong. Songbird is getting controlled by the AI also in her ending. Since you aid her the AI doesnt see you hostile. She taps into the Blackwall too much during the stadium. If you meet up with her in the van you can tell something is wrong with her. She isnt herself entirely. That is the issue in the first place. So Mi has problems to remain herself while tapping to the Blackwall thats why she says she is dying. Not in the literal sense but she gets taken over by a Rogue AI.
@@kadirr8974 She doesn't look like herself because she's quite literally dying. That's the reason. You could make the same argument for V. He's blacking out, struggling to speak, must mean Johnny took control. No, he's simply dying
Holy shit, Reed is such a baby. Going with So Mi was definitely the right choice. Also 0:49 he's talking a lot of shit for someone within sandevistan range
That's why i like the Songbird ending better. Seems like whatever choice Reed comes to that Johnny was right, Reed will eventually kill himself over all that he's be through. Rather i just give him the good death and that way Alex gets her retirement, So Mi escapes (to what exactly, it's not completely certain but it's far better than what Myers had in-store for her), and you get to flip the finger to the NUSA like Johnny would have liked you to
Plus it goes with Johnny’s beliefs too. He fought for a world of beauty and what is more beautiful and punk in an unforgiving world than an act of forgiveness.
The only annoying part is, doing Songbird's ending bars you from the new epilogue. For gameplay purposes, I like to help Reed just because it makes me feel slightly more complete.
At this point, V is a chrome demigod. He would have taken down Hansen, faced down a full MaxTac squad and eluded an abomination from the depths of the Blackwall. Where on earth does Reed get his sense of confidence from?
Reed-"Do you really think I'd need support if I wanted to get rid of you?. I hate to break it to you. But you're no Morgan Blackhand" V-"...... Reed old friend, let me level with you, if I wanted you dead you would not even know you were alive in the first place… Now, don't say anything! Just let that sink in".
@@Tsumefan2 from a rewards and story wise perspective I thought it was better ending I know people wanted so mi to go to the moon but given the lore and story side where Mr blue eyes wanted her to get out and he's linked with AI and all that theory goes is that the blackwall AIs stuck in so mi's head wanted to go to the moon have her "cured" but in reality they wanted to escape to the space cyberspace network so they can do whatever but the story for the next cyberpunk game is most likely centered around AI's, blackwall, netwatch, and 5th corporate war
Reed isn't a fool. Reed knows full good and well none of this can be laid at V's feet, this is a culmination of foolishness on the parts of Myers, Songbird, the NUSA, and Reed himself. The NUSA for tampering beyond the blackwall, and Reed for not letting go of the past. V did what they always do, and saw the mission through to completion in a situation they did not engineer. Everyone is willing to point the finger at someone else, completely denying their own culpability. Reed, at least, does acknowledge this, in a roundabout way.
The perfunctory dialogue of CDPR is exhausting. Like it constantly beats around the bush and when you do get answers, they are half baked or bleak. This is the one part of the game that’s overdone. V doesn’t get a straight answer here on what he did right and then Reed tells him he’s no Morgan Blackhand even though V is more capable as a merc than all FIA agents stacked together.
That is Reed's character though. Unwavering loyalty to the cause, willing to sacrifice everything for it, truly believing in the greater good he fights for. To have a third option would feel too much like a cop-out. It wouldn't be Reed. He parallels Goro in a lot of ways, with Goro's loyalty being to Saburo, the man who, in his eyes, lifted him from a life of miserable poverty.
Too bad there aint no other secret ending where reed helps V raid arasaka to get into mikoshi. Even though it be similar to rogue, it still be badass of reed to redeem himself into helping V. Maybe he gets killed by smasher along the way.
V was right to kill So Mi. Reed's just butt hurt cuz he couldn't do it himself. At the same time, he's a hypocrite because he expected V to treat people around him like Slider or the twins from Cynosure as pawns. If Reed really cared about So Mi, he wouldn't have given her back to the FIA. I saw the flash backs with So Mi. Reed knows it first hand. Too cowardly or too blinded to disobey the FIA. At least he admits V was right.
Fucking tired of every character lookin down on V and you can't even talk back with strength or intelligence checks, makes progressing so annoying if nobody even acknowledges it
is this ending where so mi lives or not. I dont get why reed is so upset if he sided with him. In songbird route he after my operation were much more friendly.
Hes lost in the corpo shit. Should just drop off like silverhand. Poor bastard. Could have been a nice choom to v. Maybe in another universe tho. Just saying.
its sad too see people who are big and tall and looks like a giga chad like reed but literally weak af. there many people like that in real life. outside looks intimidating but actually trash.
"You're no Morgan Blackhand" Say that to the woman/man, who could beat up smasher just by staring at him while making em burned up, get rebooted by the optics, malfunctioned his gun or causing his sorry ass to fry up. Netrunner mains be like.
Say that to the woman/man who so much faster than Adam Smasher that she/he can land like 20+ katana blows on him and kill him before he even fires a single bullet.
He really has the guts. Dude lives in a fantasy world which he created where can protect his friends and in the same time be loyal to a organization that is known for fckin up a lot of lifes. At first I liked him hell I even believed that he hated Myers. Dude is really good at lying and deceiving you. Though I would have never guessed that he is such a coward. Regretted to have sided with him reloaded a save before Firestarter. Sided with SoMi and dropped his ass at the airport. Johnny is right you cant be loyal to a government but at the same time pretend to care for someone if you clearly recruited her to fck up her life or hand her over to Netwatch. Reed is a joke.
the amount of hurt teenage egoes in the comments is astounding. for once, a game gives a character a reality check and the manbabies behind him lose their sh*t immediately
You know what? I wonder if it's possible to kill Reed during the standoff and then kill So Mi too. Like turn around and then shoot her in the head too. No further danger to be had with the blackwall, and the NUSA basically fails miserably. I'll need to do another playthrough.
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Meeting Reed: 0:00
Our first meet: 0:06
Weird of you to reach out: 0:22
Sounds menacing: 0:38
This some sort of interrogation: 1:22
Gonna help me after all: 1:40
Need my help again: 1:59
Right about what: 2:31
Thanks: 2:39
That i didn’t expect: 2:46
Know what it’s like: 3:21
Don’t sound like you’re admitting: 3:56
So what now: 4:27
Nah: 4:54
You’ll make a good mentor: 5:18
What am i to say: 5:53
CORPO option: 6:09
Thank me with a beer: 6:48
Good luck, you will need it: 6:59
"I hate to break it to ya, but you're no Morgan Blackhand." Says an exhausted Fedboy to a man who hunts BARGHEST batallions for sport and os capable of killing Adam Smasher with a rubber sex toy.
Said rubber sex toy hits pretty hard tho
You really killed Smasher with a dildo man ?!
Reloads a previous save, saves songbird just to shoot Reed* YOU WERE SAYING?!
I can only imagine his face hearing the news of V soloing an entire tower.
Kinda wish we could get a call from him and saying how surprised he was from you going one man army against one of the most powerful corporations in the world
"You're no Morgan Blackhand" I literally plan on invading Arasaka Tower by myself after this, Reed.
Also canonicaly v is Morgan's equal
A lot of characters talk down to V and underestimate him. Fatal mistake.
@@grandmyotismonbetter than Blackhand V went into Arasaka tower solo Blackhand had a Militech team with him.
@@Rainz_00 I mean,main feat of Morgan Blackhand is that he uses little to no implants ever
@skell6134 he does use implants though they have a list of all his cyberware...he's just not fully borged out like Smasher
"You're no Morgan Blackhand."
Exactly, because V did something Blackhand couldn't do. Kill Adam Smasher.
What an amazing comment 😂
To be fair I read somewhere that Blackhand was someone with very less chrome on him...... whereas by the time you fight Arasaka, V is probably one of the most chromed out individuals on the planet :p
@@corruptzelda Unless you do a chromeless run
Y’all are so insecure that this the only thing you heard from reed 😂
Who's to say he won't be coming back in the sequel?
"you failed as an FIA agent"
I take that as a compliment.
I think that's the point.
He meant it as one.
@@clarencewalters338he did not :)
"You're no Morgan Blackhand"
Am i gonna have to introduce sir john phallustiff to you, Reed?
Jeez, that would put Reed to shame, n**ga couldn’t beat that monster in size even if he wanted 😂😂😂
@@Kristers_Kyou are weird
@Kristers_K yikes, this is what porn brain looks like
Bold words for someone within 1-hit kill revolver range.
Ive seen LITERALLY what the FIA calls success. Im happy to have failed. Alex is my only regreat in this line.
She is only slightly better than Reed and that isn't saying a lot.
@@thefracturedbutwhole5475 Fair, I just wish she would have taken my advice that she was still alone and unarmed in a room filled with hostiles.
@johndee277 FIA agents are stubborn, Alex doesn't listen, Reed won't stand aside, So Mi would rather die than go back to Myers. I like Reed and Alex, enough to regret either one dying, but nowhere near enough to justify handing Rosalind Myers a living WMD she can abuse.
@@thefracturedbutwhole5475 Agreed there completely. The Cynosure ending is my ending of choice. Maybe its more accurate to say Alex ia thw closest I come to a regret. She did pick her fate, I did try to warn.
They really fucking nailed the music in this game, from the hectic music as you run through the stadium after helping Songbird/reed to finding So Mi in the Cynosure core.
I kept having to pause it because my goosebumps were distracting me lmfao
The music/sound effects in Cynosure still give me goosebumps
In a way, I think him saying that V was a miserable excuse for an FIA agent is actually a roundabout compliment. Because in this ending, I think he realises how callous Myers is, what she did and how far she pushed Songbird until So Mi genuinely thought death was a better alternative than going back to Myers as a prisoner. And that while V did the wrong thing as an FIA agent, V still spared Songbird from a far worse fate that she would have been given had V followed the orders given. He even seems to lose faith in the FIA to the point of considering going rogue, and his admittance that V was right does seem to support the notion that he no longer sees the agency as the be all and end all when it comes to choosing what to do.
very far stretch and cope ngl
@@greedy_mf prove me wrong or shut up
@@greedy_mfI miss when coping wasn’t a bad thing.
Honestly, this kinda makes sense
@@greedy_mf *says cope, doesn't explain*
00:04:57 When Vi tell him to leave the FIA, Reed says "do the same as Morgan Blackhand", which means that Morgan Blackhand was at some point working for NUSA, Militech, ...and yes, we know about the bomb, but his rebuttal implies that Morgan Blackhand survived, and then left the FIA/Militech/NUSA.
The bomb at Arasaka tower wasn't Johnny's operation, he was a back up/distraction, it was Morgan Blackhand's op for Militech. The engram of Johnny Silverhand on the relic has had their memories and personality altered, to be less volitile/more controllable and more skilled in combat (by making him think he played Blackhand's part in the mission) as part of Yorinobu's plan to use Johnny's engram to help cripple Arasaka.
"you are no morgan blackhand"
"True. Im even better"
V wouldn’t say some cringe shit like that but you definitely would 😂
@@californiansniper2133 If V completes Path of Glory plus all side missions, their biography will actually state as a new merc legend replacing Morgan Blackhand
Reed in this ending has finally woken up ,i lack the verbal know how to explain how , but you can tell He's finally free
I think he's upset that song had to die for him to to realize it
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Man i wish i could remind Reed he got cooked by 3 Arasaka goon on a train while we stormed Arasaka HQ, solo, while being half dead and then SMOKED Adam Smasher.
“You’re no Morgan Blackhand”
Big words for someone who can die by a single bullet
"You're no Morgan Blackhand" well neither are you. Do you really want to find out which of us is closer?
As far as i know Adam Smaher was using almost a mech size cutting edge suit that was one of Arasaka's super weapons of war so Morgan Blackhand not beating Adam Smaher in 2023 is understandable to say the least
not only that, adam had shaitan's biopod, he can't just go all out
Y'know, you would think that diving into battle with a heavily armed militia and saving the life of the freaking president would count for SOMEthing.
Yeah meeting Myers later made me realize what a ruthless and horrible person she actually was.
Reed is a big guy with bigger ego and that's exactly what cause his downfall.
"You`re no Morgan Blackhand"
Me:
*maxed out every stat with mods, Sandevistan, Legendary implants and having killed Adam Smasher at least 100 times.* try me...
In this ending he clearly had a character development. You can see what a sad excuse for a man he becomes when he returns to Langley.
A dude that has become fat and sad even somewhat begging for V to stay at Langley and work for the FIA behind a desk so he doesnt feel lonely. If you want to have the best ending for Reed then this one is the go-to.
After all the ending-conversations with Myers, Reed, Alex and So Mi, I think the best ending is to screw over Myers, headshot Reed, get Alex retired and send So Mi to moon.
Especially the dialogue of Reed in this ending... who does he think handled MaxTec?!
Nah, fuck Songbird, she's manipulative and doesn't care at all about V. Sending her off to moon is what I call "Simp ending". She literally fucks you over not once, not twice, not even three times, but four times at the very least, and you still do her bidding. I'd rather give her off to Reed, but that ending still sucks because you give him and Myers what they want.
In my opinion, this is the best ending. You don't let Songbird manipulate you, you screw over Myers and you allow Reed to see beyond FIA. Alex dies, yes, that is the worst part about it, but it was the only ending where I really felt like I did everything right and had a clear conscience. I didn't let anyone fool me, I had everything under control and I did the best moral choices.
@@Magnus8434Songbird doesn’t care about V? Who do you think saves V’s ass in that bunker? And from who do you find out the truth about the neural- matrix? Songbird is a complicated character so labelling everyone who chose to side with her as “simps”
is just another way to say “I didn’t understand much of the deeper meaning of the story”
Edit: Grammar
@@Rumx1412 you do realise she did all that because she needed V? She did recruit him/her for a reason, ofc she would try to help them, but it was only to reach her goals.
@@Magnus8434 Why would So Mi(in her most vulnerable state both physically and mentally on the train)confessed to V that there's only 1 cure if she's a manipulative POS ? Isn't that just dumb ? why wouldn't she just got on the shuttle and not tell V at all(or tell V after she got to the moon)
It's as if these are incredibly complex and nuance character. And the game is testing your level of empathy. to see if you can understand her plight as a survivor like yourself. Having her memories being taken while still being alive. Can you look past her betrayal and set a broken bird free despite no reason to.
The game repeatedly show you that you have friends and comrades you can rely on. Vik and Misty are there UNCONDITIONALLY. Who does So Mi have ? No one.
IMO, on that train ride. So Mi knows she's going to die soon. She even mouth so before going unconcious.And after she saw how our V fought through hell and earth for her.She decide to trust V with the truth. By confessing to V, She has basically leaving her fate and the cure in V's hand. Knowing full well that you're free to sell her out and she can't fight back.
To say that sending So Mi to the moon is the "simp ending" is incredibly reductive. And a travesty to this amazingly dense and nuance story that CDPR has weaved.
@@Rumx1412 So mi is in a situation similar to V, she is dying and needs help, best way to get it? Betray those using her so she can try and save her own life. Granted she does lie to V but you can literally tell at the end she doesn't want to lie anyone and regrets doing so, she did confess there is only 1 cure but she put her entire trust in V because you are in a similar situation.
In my first playthrough of the game and the dlc i went off the basis of "i want to live as V" and in doing so i got So Mi's ending because it felt the best ending for that playthrough, you go all the way through trying to live and do everything u can to keep trying to survive and in doing so you go against Reed who in this video literally blames you despite him failing and being lied to by the ppl who betrayed him once before and now being surprised he was lied by them again, you have alex survive and get a retirement, So Mi is on the moon and isn't being used as a weapon and in the future she could be a ally to V if say V goes with the nomads and needs help and they get in touch considering So Mi owes V her life, and Myers can't strip you of anything nor do anything to you
6:09 Nommad has option to tell Reed he shall join some nommad clan.
I've got a mod idea where you can actually send Reed to the Afterlife as a merc, then he can see V's inner Morgan Blackhand first hand in helping to raid Arasaska Tower in the DFTR ending
6:48 idk why but this is my favorite dialog v has ever said in the whole game
i love reed i can’t help it
Unbelievably kino
The Morgan Blackhand comment is crazy coming from the guy who lost a shootout to a katana user
He blames you but he was the one who acted without fully understanding the situation and because of that Songbird lost control and the AI took was able to take over.
Songbird lost control because of Songbird, it's quite a stretch to somehow blame Reed for her letting lose the blackwall and warning Kurt about Alex thereby getting her killed.
@@armoredpbased
Wrong. Songbird is getting controlled by the AI also in her ending. Since you aid her the AI doesnt see you hostile. She taps into the Blackwall too much during the stadium. If you meet up with her in the van you can tell something is wrong with her. She isnt herself entirely.
That is the issue in the first place. So Mi has problems to remain herself while tapping to the Blackwall thats why she says she is dying. Not in the literal sense but she gets taken over by a Rogue AI.
@@kadirr8974 She doesn't look like herself because she's quite literally dying. That's the reason. You could make the same argument for V. He's blacking out, struggling to speak, must mean Johnny took control. No, he's simply dying
Holy shit, Reed is such a baby. Going with So Mi was definitely the right choice.
Also 0:49 he's talking a lot of shit for someone within sandevistan range
That's why i like the Songbird ending better. Seems like whatever choice Reed comes to that Johnny was right, Reed will eventually kill himself over all that he's be through. Rather i just give him the good death and that way Alex gets her retirement, So Mi escapes (to what exactly, it's not completely certain but it's far better than what Myers had in-store for her), and you get to flip the finger to the NUSA like Johnny would have liked you to
Plus it goes with Johnny’s beliefs too. He fought for a world of beauty and what is more beautiful and punk in an unforgiving world than an act of forgiveness.
The only annoying part is, doing Songbird's ending bars you from the new epilogue. For gameplay purposes, I like to help Reed just because it makes me feel slightly more complete.
At this point, V is a chrome demigod. He would have taken down Hansen, faced down a full MaxTac squad and eluded an abomination from the depths of the Blackwall. Where on earth does Reed get his sense of confidence from?
Well he CAN one shot you in one of the endings. Plot powers he has aplenty.
Reed-"Do you really think I'd need support if I wanted to get rid of you?. I hate to break it to you. But you're no Morgan Blackhand"
V-"...... Reed old friend, let me level with you, if I wanted you dead you would not even know you were alive in the first place… Now, don't say anything! Just let that sink in".
This is the best phantom liberty ending in my opinion
you probably get this if you put so mi out of her misery in somewhat damaged
@@Tsumefan2 from a rewards and story wise perspective I thought it was better ending I know people wanted so mi to go to the moon but given the lore and story side where Mr blue eyes wanted her to get out and he's linked with AI and all that theory goes is that the blackwall AIs stuck in so mi's head wanted to go to the moon have her "cured" but in reality they wanted to escape to the space cyberspace network so they can do whatever but the story for the next cyberpunk game is most likely centered around AI's, blackwall, netwatch, and 5th corporate war
Do anyone recognize the background music playing during this scene?
Reed isn't a fool. Reed knows full good and well none of this can be laid at V's feet, this is a culmination of foolishness on the parts of Myers, Songbird, the NUSA, and Reed himself. The NUSA for tampering beyond the blackwall, and Reed for not letting go of the past. V did what they always do, and saw the mission through to completion in a situation they did not engineer. Everyone is willing to point the finger at someone else, completely denying their own culpability. Reed, at least, does acknowledge this, in a roundabout way.
no reed iam no morgan blackhand because not even blackhand can stand up to my feats
The perfunctory dialogue of CDPR is exhausting. Like it constantly beats around the bush and when you do get answers, they are half baked or bleak.
This is the one part of the game that’s overdone. V doesn’t get a straight answer here on what he did right and then Reed tells him he’s no Morgan Blackhand even though V is more capable as a merc than all FIA agents stacked together.
More DLC and please let Reed be more than just a TOOL in ALLLLLLL!!!!! Options
He's such a genuine character
That is Reed's character though. Unwavering loyalty to the cause, willing to sacrifice everything for it, truly believing in the greater good he fights for. To have a third option would feel too much like a cop-out. It wouldn't be Reed. He parallels Goro in a lot of ways, with Goro's loyalty being to Saburo, the man who, in his eyes, lifted him from a life of miserable poverty.
Too bad there aint no other secret ending where reed helps V raid arasaka to get into mikoshi. Even though it be similar to rogue, it still be badass of reed to redeem himself into helping V. Maybe he gets killed by smasher along the way.
V was right to kill So Mi. Reed's just butt hurt cuz he couldn't do it himself. At the same time, he's a hypocrite because he expected V to treat people around him like Slider or the twins from Cynosure as pawns. If Reed really cared about So Mi, he wouldn't have given her back to the FIA. I saw the flash backs with So Mi. Reed knows it first hand. Too cowardly or too blinded to disobey the FIA. At least he admits V was right.
Fucking tired of every character lookin down on V and you can't even talk back with strength or intelligence checks, makes progressing so annoying if nobody even acknowledges it
is this ending where so mi lives or not. I dont get why reed is so upset if he sided with him. In songbird route he after my operation were much more friendly.
So Mi did not live here but was returned to the NUSA.
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Hes lost in the corpo shit. Should just drop off like silverhand. Poor bastard. Could have been a nice choom to v. Maybe in another universe tho. Just saying.
So in this line, is there a chance that he doesn't go back to the FIA? Or he returns no matter what you say?
watch the new end credits with Reed, he isn't with the FIA anymore
@@ruhyah2689 thank you!
Damn and after that Reed still gets the desk job in new ending (if i'm not wrong)
You’re not wrong at all
Not in this ending. He gets the desk job if you hand over Songbird. This is from the ending where you killed her in Cynosyre
its sad too see people who are big and tall and looks like a giga chad like reed but literally weak af. there many people like that in real life. outside looks intimidating but actually trash.
"You're no Morgan Blackhand"
Say that to the woman/man, who could beat up smasher just by staring at him while making em burned up, get rebooted by the optics, malfunctioned his gun or causing his sorry ass to fry up. Netrunner mains be like.
Say that to the woman/man who so much faster than Adam Smasher that she/he can land like 20+ katana blows on him and kill him before he even fires a single bullet.
He really has the guts. Dude lives in a fantasy world which he created where can protect his friends and in the same time be loyal to a organization that is known for fckin up a lot of lifes.
At first I liked him hell I even believed that he hated Myers.
Dude is really good at lying and deceiving you. Though I would have never guessed that he is such a coward. Regretted to have sided with him reloaded a save before Firestarter. Sided with SoMi and dropped his ass at the airport. Johnny is right you cant be loyal to a government but at the same time pretend to care for someone if you clearly recruited her to fck up her life or hand her over to Netwatch. Reed is a joke.
Reed underestimates V whereas So Mi bets everything she has on them, clearly one is more deserving of Vs efforts and its not Reed
the amount of hurt teenage egoes in the comments is astounding. for once, a game gives a character a reality check and the manbabies behind him lose their sh*t immediately
You know what? I wonder if it's possible to kill Reed during the standoff and then kill So Mi too. Like turn around and then shoot her in the head too. No further danger to be had with the blackwall, and the NUSA basically fails miserably. I'll need to do another playthrough.
“you’re no morgan blackhand”
yeah, she’s better
Correction: "he's better"
@@armoredpCorrection: they’re better.
@@armoredp congratulations, you win the sexist title
@@SpinTheWords W
@tigrispanthera5496 its literally male V in the clip dude. Chill out ya gonk.
"maybe even as a friend" lol lmao since when you two were friends, since you gave her an offer she couldn't refuse? damn bootlickers never change