Fun fact: if you give her the token, you'll eventually get a postcard on your Megabuilding apartment door from her. She got her admin assignment in Monaco...that "proof" secured her retirement!
You also get the postcard if you don't give her the token. There is a different message on it tho, but nothing that suggests that she didn't secure her retirement
FIA certainly has a very bad intelligence service is they cannot figure whether V is alive or not and blindly accept the token as a proof. Hell, they can instantly check whether V still have at least an active bank account.
She doesn’t threaten you really. She basically says she’ll leave you alone. I think she’s the most sincere and likable character of the DLC. Straightforward, trustworthy and trying to escape like everyone else, I enjoyed my interactions with her the most.
@@sharpasacueball Still quite different. Alex doesn't want to continue working as an FIA agent, she got burned badly by the NUSA because of Reed's actions. Reed on the other hand, doesn't really care who lives or dies or who's lives he destroys in pursuit of completing his mission. Sure, they may kill but so does V and honestly, V's probably killed more people than those two combined in just the span of a few short months. *Minor spoilers for PL* If you side with Reed during the Black Sapphire infiltration mission and betray Songbird, Alex dies and you have to fight Hansen and Songbird still gets away. Goes to show how great Reed's plans are for you when you're a disposable pawn.
I also enjoyed the few interactions I had with her, kinda wished for something more after the conclusion of Phantom Liberty (only on 1 side, obviously). Don't see how she's threatening V either, she even sends a little something later at the original apartment.
"It's my job to kill you" is actually her way of saying, "Be safe V" it's really heartwarming and I think she actually likes V and they respect each other a lot
She knows the President is a Evil Bitch and Reed was her Pet. She wanted to get out of it all while making V out of the Picture so he/she doesn't have assassins up his/her back.
@@fhrizo That makes sense, as she knows that she already slaughtered the whole Black Ops Army (Almost like 100+ soldiers) all by his/herself while having a seizures from the relic.
Yeah, that's how I read it; she's basically saying she specifically *isn't* going to kill you, in a way that means the rest FIA also doesn't try to kill you in the meantime as well, all the while maintaining some plausible deniability. *Minor spoilers for an event very shortly after this convo* ... Also, she's basically just done with NUSA and the FIA at this point. Not long after this, she quits/goes awol and sends V a 'retirement' postcard
Personally, I liked Alex more than Reed. Just from the interactions and how she was more open and personable. Unlike Reed who, true to his character, was more closed off and not as "friendly" or seemingly available.
Me too, that's mostly the reason why I betrayed Reed because I didn't want Alex to die. When she called me, I fully expected a boss fight or something, glad I was wrong. Best this way anyway, Alex gets a happy ending and V also get happy ending (Nomad ending)
@@owl-ishThat's my main reason for helping So Mi as well. I do not want Alex to die. Too bad that the siding with Reed missions looks cooler than siding with So Mi, lore wise as well as what you can get.
@@owl-ishTechnically you can betray Reed and then change your mind at the end and hand So Mi in anyway. That way Alex and Reed both live. So does So Mi, I guess, but what she gets barely seems like much of a life.
@@ScoopMeisterGeneral I know, but honestly I think it's better to send So Mi to the moon. I know she betrayed me, but I knew that Myers is just gonna use her as a lab rat. Myers pretty much ripped humanity out of her already. She is hardly more human than the maelstrom and that's saying something.
I think Alex partly knew Song's escape plan and was quietly helping her. This is indicated by the suspicious emails on her computer between A. and S. and the package you get at the airport. She was also not particularly moved by Reed's death and understood that V had done what was necessary.
I cannot express how much I appreciate your technique of going through the entire dialog tree. So many people just go down a single path or superficially skim over options that would involve having completed other content (like romances / calling friends). I need to go see how thoroughly you covered the NUSA cure ending. Thanks!
Reed is a man who has been selling his soul piece by piece to the government he's loyal to, hating every step of it but not able to stop making that same mistake. Telling himself he should have done differently, he should do different, but ultimately never changing. He was always going hand over Songbird, no matter what he told himself. He was always going to defend Myers. If he survived, there'd come a day where he find he had no soul left so sell. And he wouldn't live past that realization. Alex understood this, which is why she wanted out. And which is why at the end, she can't blame V.
Thought the same thing. Super awkward because like, who are these people to her? And hell, why toast to T-bug or Evelyn when Jackie would be a better option if a bit awkward on Alex's part.
@@kaisersickle154In my run, I celebrated to T-Bug. Jackie got a funeral. But T-Bug? Barely anything. So, a tiny toast in the middle of nowhere with a girl that walked a similar tune? She deserved a bit of celebration.
@@flooferderp2918It makes sense. But also Jackie's death affected V the most, you get a huge number of prompts to talk about him, so V always keeps Welles in his mind.
@@miguelcondadoolivar5149 Sure sure, we know. But we always found it a shame that T-Bug gets jack squat besides a small little gift. Not even a tiny side quest. (Jackie *is* great though, don't get me wrong)
I drank to silverhand too and at first I was regretting it until Johny said “no, to you V” felt wholesome, he’s the one that’s been with us through it all
Always drink to Johnny. At this point he's saved your life at least once possibly twice. He also has no interest in taking V's body. He just wants to burn Mikoshi because of what it did to him, which i respect.
I drank to Johnny because out of everyone, he's the only one actually there to witness V raising a toast to him. The dead don't give a shit because they're, y'know, dead. That, and the fact that he saved V's life. The least V can do is give him something a dead person logically never gets to enjoy.
Probably more than that. V can storm a corpo HQ on his own and beat Adam Smasher at the end of it. I was doing the Black Saphire mission and they went through this elaborate plan to get in. I was thinking... why not just let V storm through the main gate? Might even kill Hansen in the process.
@@ixiahj because recognizing what a badass V is and how he can solo armies wouldn't be very healthy for the narrative. Also, it's a DLC about spies, they had to make a spy mission
Literally the ONLY reason I side with Songbird. Songbird came on wayyy too strong from the very beginning, which felt manipulative, and then my suspicions were correct toward the end (because I started thinking, "okay, maybe I was wrong. And the writers are just really bad...").
@@Leomerya12right? Man, the moment she opened her trap yapping about trust I smelled the stench of backstabbing rat. And rat she is, wallowing in self-pity all the fuсking time. I get the will to live and fight for your life, but trying to screw V over knowing that they're in exact same situation as she is, dying... I despise Ratbird. I disliked Johnny at first but that's it, and he was straightforward. Ratbird is manipulative, treacherous, two-faced pathetic excuse of a human being. And what pisses me off the most is knowing that it's not even her fault, not completely at least.
I absolutely *loved* how many twists this story took. I figured siding with Song would result in both Alex and Reed dying, but the fact Alex lives, AND doesn't want to kill you, especially after the way she screams thru the window at the moment of betrayal, was such a pleasant surprise. And the last convo with Alex in the bar brought out another feature I fucking adore about 2077, which is the NPC facial expressions. You can see such a strong mixture of grief and relief on Alex's face
Honestly when I got that call I was fully expecting an ambush by NUSA goons and a boss fight Vs Alex I was fully prepared to kill Alex, and was pleasantly surprised by her not choosing the stupid option
@@sansventura7199 why should she have to slam the brakes on her job just because it’s V? That’s like telling a cop not to enforce the law just because Mike Tyson is the criminal or something.
I appreciate the way that you went through all of the dialogue options more than I can say! I wish more TH-camrs did the same! I'll have to see what other videos you have, 'cause there are definitely some dialogue options that I regret missing when they were yellow and not blue.
I’m sad when drinking to those that were lost, it’s bs that they did not make the joke of add another achievement reading “ to this, one last time” with V just saying “ to this “
She never threatened V, because she knew V was dying from the relic. She only said that after V was killed by it (if they are) she’ll claim the bounty they have on them.
I chose to save Songbird and send to her space but damn killing Reed for me was like killing a friend who was loyal to a fault to his “master” despite them getting him “killed” and he was dogmatic about his *principals* to the very end. I gotta say it did get him killed and he was used as a knight and a pawn. But if you look from his point of view he was truly dead after what happened after So Mi led him to the trap years ago and I think he knew in a way you’d kill him thus freeing him of his burdens. Otherwise he kills you and continues the cycle waiting for someone else to best him. That’s the way it is in my V story. I liked his character, he was the relatable Yang to V’s Yin. Not everyone gets to be a hero and he was willing to die for his cause just like V. Even if he’s on the wrong side I respect his character. And Songbird did the same thing V is trying to do, survive, I can’t blame her for playing a masterful game. V’s real ending for me is don’t fear the reaper. He becomes legend and closes off many stories including his own after sacrificing the “cure” for Song So Mi. If V had taken the cure all he did was for nothing and a boring end for him. His character clearly wanted to go out in blaze of glory especially for his fallen friend Jackie. Such good writing, just like life the happy ending isn’t always the fairytale ending. Would I have enjoyed a fairytale ending option. Sure, but they could still use everything for a sequel, who knows what’s next if so. If you read all this kudos choom, I applaud the story I’m only just now finishing it after all these years.
Honestly, I would like nothing more than that to be the canon, and to play a new character in the next game. Someone who had a passing relationship with V. One such character is Max Jones. A media you help in one of Regina's gigs.
Thank you for including all of drinking to: “To ___” character options you are an actual saint 🙏 Not only that but you did ALL other options with Alex’s dialogue… You also missed one additional “drink to” option and that is Scorpion from the aldecados, but for some reason you didn’t get the option.
I killed Reed on my first Phantom playthrough, did not wait long enough for Alex to call, did not realize she would. Man, there are so many surprises to this game, when you think you seen it all, something else pops up.
From the get-go, I liked Alex better than Reed. Reed struck me as someone who might talk a big deal about trust, having your back, camaraderie etc...but will ALWAYS choose his greater loyalties if he to pick between the two. I felt if Myers was to straight up and go say they will vivisect So Mi once they capture her, Reed would have STILL found a way to rationalise that as helping So Mi. Everything in the DLC proved me right, and I am glad Alex survived and got a happy ending.
"Time to find some new friends. Grow to like. Then murder." Cold, John boy. I didn't befriend or like Reed to begin with. I worked with him because I didn't have much choice if I wanted So Mi to keep her promise.
I laughed hard when Johnny said that ngl. Kinda liked Reed (as a character, he was great, but personally? Nah, he a lapdog for the wrong one) but there was no question that So Mi and Alex alive was the choice for me.
1) Alex dropped Hansen in hand-to-hand, just sliced like sushi. Guy was not Smasher-level maybe, but one of the game bosses for sure. 2) Hardly a threat. More like a fair warning that FIA will not let it go. Personally she will not do a thing to kill you for real.
Songbird doesn't care about you or anyone else. She cares only about saving her own skin. If you ever thought that would be in the cards then well you got honey trapped. The oldest trick in the spy handbook.
When I decided to side with So Mi, I didn't really care about what happens to Reed. Alex was the one who kept me worried. Sad that there weren't more interactions with her, or a romance even.
Alex is the real one, she never lied to you and her intention was clear, to get out of FIA, she's the only person that you can truly trust in the DLC, my biggest regret in choosing saving Song is betraying Alex, but at least she got what she wanted and there's no bad feeling between the two
In a run where I don't care about Erebus/Kanto CD, I'll always side with Song, but for Alex. She deserves her happy ending the most. So Mi's living on borrowed time, Myers doesn't deserve a power weapon like that, and Reed is still that walking ghost, just living for the memory of what he used to be, who he used to follow. Alex kept dreaming during her time in DTown, waiting for her moment of freedom, she has the most to gain and lose.
She's the only reason I sided with Songbird, even though Songbird lied to my face the ENTIRE dlc. Don't want her to die and miss out on that retirement plan.
I'll always spoilers because I can't spoilers spoilers. I just feel like this is not spoilers. Now spoilers is in my head all the time like ... whatever
Not a threat more of a friendly warning when you're time comes I'll be there ..which Alex DOESNT judge you at all for doing what you had too....shit even reed is still alive saying close to the same shit...even after you shoot his ass or at least it did for me.
LOL was I the only one who thought, after getting this call, that Alex was gonna kill me? I didn't trust her until after this conversation. Even the scene where you share a beer with her...felt a little weird for her to be letting down her hair so quick with someone she only just met. I mean, high stress situations and all that, sure, but still - I figured Alex would try to complete the mission, so to speak.
The fact that NUS wants V dead, says that SPOILER: they intentionally fried V's nerves in the end, it wasn't damage caused by Neural matrix. it was a lie, johnny gone, and V broken, NUS's fault.
That's not what happens, they only want V dead if you side with Songbird. If you side with Reed there's no reason for them not to do everything they can to help V, especially since it wouldn't surprise me if Myers wanted V on her payroll afterwards.
I can't believe the utter disrespect Alex can give in this convo. At this point, V has cut down tonnes of the FIA's best Black Ops. She had him at gunpoint and he turned the tables on her in an instant. As far as she's concerned, V defeated Reed too. What makes her think she'll ever be in a position to put a black sack over his head? It's ridiculous that the FIA and Myers don't treat V as Morgan Blackhand the Second once the DLC is over.
I do like that Reed and Alex respond pretty dismissively to V's comments in the beginning. The, "you're no Morgan Blackhand" kind of stuff, but here at the end... it just doesn't make any sense. Even after you wipe a veritable platoon of NUSA spec ops he still never treats you like a greater force than him, or even a threat. And similarly, here, Alex does the same thing. They should have had V respond with something like, "yeah, that's what Reed thought too". Just to show the growth, if not even just for your character but in how they're seen.
It's not a threat lol. Quite the opposite, actually. She got an order to kill you, and instead of doing it, she tells you about it face to face, and then says that she has no intention to actually carry it out. Honestly, my favourite character in PL. Very simple, yet very likeable
I wanted to like Reed until he started talking about Cynosure. He knew what was going on all along. My V was all about NOT zeroing all of humanity in the name of God and country. Gotta go back now and see those A& S emails mentioned in the commenfs here.
What I am about to write is a happy rant and by no means a mark on this game, I fuckin love it: I find it funny how the game consistently has npc's and other main characters state V as "not important.' When infact, V is effectively the doomslayer of cyberpunk and you can literally 1 v 50 max tac goons in under a few seconds. That's not even the limit of your abilities. You fight Adam Smasher, even mods to make him lore accurate, V STILL can feed him his own tin can butt cheeks in half a second. NPC's saying "save the stale comebacks" is really funny. I am always sitting there like "bruh, I killed my way through dog town to get here FASTER than actually driving. Fuck you mean, "SaVe tHe StAle CoMeBacKs" V IS HIM (or her) Its more just a funny observation that makes me chuckle. Especially in scenes where you team up with somebody to fight off some bad guys, and you straight up solo the entire encounter without breaking a sweat before the npc ally can fire a single shot. or when you meet Myers for the first time and they some how just manage to knock you on your ass with the most telegraphed attacks, threaten to shoot you. Even with game breaking stats, they still manage to do this. (if you have high body stat you can ignore this). After that convo, she needs your help, which then you proceed to UNLEASH the entire games code on a bunch of goons in seconds, causing mass carnage. With Myers then saying "not bad." Like MUTHA FUCKA, I just committed 19 war crimes, took out several weapon platforms, robbed families of their fathers, in under 5 seconds. Gives me a good belly laugh.
Honestly, many of CP2077's mistakes can be rooted back to TW3, as many aspects seem to be just straight up imports. The problem is,both the story and environment are different in the two games
I just have to say, who would raise a glass to T-bug?? She seems like such a minor character in the final game despite the bigger plans that the devs had for her in the concept art, genuinely almost forgettable. Just weird that she's even an option.
Clickbait..that being said it was nice seeing all the dialogue. In my ending she’s 6 ft under. I did avenge her though, killed Kurt with her signature gun
I have finished both finals, i think killing songbird is more exciting just for going to cynosure, the blackwall hack etc, buuuut i love songbird, her path is really good at the orbital space station, i think more chill, but at the end my favorite character is living and in the moon 🌙
She's so nice, I love her, she should've been a romancable character, especially for femV because her other options are dull as hell... I mean, they're nice, but they're so plain...
Fuuuuck. I dont wanna side with Songbird(nor do I want her and the blackwall AI she has access to getting in anyones hands, FIA or Nightcorp), but I really want her to love. She's literally the only redeeming character in the whole expansion
How long did you have to wait before getting her to call?. I was doing a few last gigs before i started the last mission in the main campaign, didn't get a call from her.
@@williammoutchia9292Really? I had this conversation way before I even got the quest to help So Mi through the spaceport. I thought it had already ended at that point lol I went off to do Panam's, Judy's and Kerry's quests.
To Save her or add another sociopath in V's head with Canto/Erebus... Truely a cornelian choice. Yeah... Let's put what was slowly killing So Mi in my head as well... Silverhand isn't enough.... I swear V can do some truely outrageously dumb shit in this game.
Canto is also attacking your nuro process by attacking both nano bots and brain. It can also slow down the process of the relic itself by combatting against it.
To me that was the best ending for me but with Rogue and i let Johnny take control so he could get revenge on Adam Smasher and i let Songbird die and not let Reed and the FIA to not have her... Reed is a puppet and FIA is well the FIA...I cant let Songbird go to the moon neither because Mr Bleu Eyes will have her which IS NOT GOOD if you know who/what Mr Bleu Eyes really is... so the best option is to complete the mission by sticking with Reed. Fight Hansen(bad ass bossfight) Fight the Maxtac(bad ass bossfigh) Run from the Blackwall Robot(metal Gear vibe) and free Songbird by letting her die.
Nice try but if you choose Silverhands wish to revenge Adam Smasher later you work with Mr.Blue Eyes and met him in Afterlife to talk about the big mission to enter the crystal palace. If you do your research about Mr.Blue Eyes it’s clearly he works for Night Corp. and Richard Knight the creator of Night City got a vision for a city that is peacefully and everybody have a good job and life but someone kills him, after that They call this city as a tribute Night City, his wife is still alive but she lives very unknown like and Night Corp works very secretly and invest in poor people with talents, people like Peralez to control the politicians.
I felt it like a backstab when I tried to give her the best life by choosing to betray SongBird, I had no clue she'd be taken down so fast by Hasen. It was the right choice all the way to betray Song but I couldn't leave Alex like that.
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you seem to have trouble understanding the word: threat
Fun fact: if you give her the token, you'll eventually get a postcard on your Megabuilding apartment door from her. She got her admin assignment in Monaco...that "proof" secured her retirement!
oh shit thats what that postcard meant
That's awesome, I had given her the token out of instinct. It just felt right. Good to know one of my decisions worked out the way I wanted.
You also get the postcard if you don't give her the token. There is a different message on it tho, but nothing that suggests that she didn't secure her retirement
Good for her. She took out Hansen like he was nothing.
FIA certainly has a very bad intelligence service is they cannot figure whether V is alive or not and blindly accept the token as a proof. Hell, they can instantly check whether V still have at least an active bank account.
She doesn’t threaten you really. She basically says she’ll leave you alone. I think she’s the most sincere and likable character of the DLC. Straightforward, trustworthy and trying to escape like everyone else, I enjoyed my interactions with her the most.
She's still a stone cold killer agent. Not that much different from Reed
@@sharpasacueball Still quite different. Alex doesn't want to continue working as an FIA agent, she got burned badly by the NUSA because of Reed's actions. Reed on the other hand, doesn't really care who lives or dies or who's lives he destroys in pursuit of completing his mission. Sure, they may kill but so does V and honestly, V's probably killed more people than those two combined in just the span of a few short months.
*Minor spoilers for PL*
If you side with Reed during the Black Sapphire infiltration mission and betray Songbird, Alex dies and you have to fight Hansen and Songbird still gets away.
Goes to show how great Reed's plans are for you when you're a disposable pawn.
@@sharpasacueballVery different, actually
I also enjoyed the few interactions I had with her, kinda wished for something more after the conclusion of Phantom Liberty (only on 1 side, obviously). Don't see how she's threatening V either, she even sends a little something later at the original apartment.
Yeah, I feel like the title of the video is misleading. I assumed there was a dialogue option that would lead to Alex threatening V
"It's my job to kill you" is actually her way of saying, "Be safe V" it's really heartwarming and I think she actually likes V and they respect each other a lot
She doesnt really threaten V, quite the opposite actually. She's lying to the FIA so that they won't put anyone else on the job. She's protecting V.
She knows the President is a Evil Bitch and Reed was her Pet. She wanted to get out of it all while making V out of the Picture so he/she doesn't have assassins up his/her back.
or protecting herself and the hapless FIA agents that V would slaughter
@@fhrizo That makes sense, as she knows that she already slaughtered the whole Black Ops Army (Almost like 100+ soldiers) all by his/herself while having a seizures from the relic.
Did not realized that. Thanks.
@@fhrizo C do be built different 😂(jokes aside in cannon v is not op as we player build him/her up choom)
It felt less of a threat and more of a "I'm gonna take my sweet time and let you die so the FIA leaves you alone".
Yeah, that's how I read it; she's basically saying she specifically *isn't* going to kill you, in a way that means the rest FIA also doesn't try to kill you in the meantime as well, all the while maintaining some plausible deniability.
*Minor spoilers for an event very shortly after this convo*
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Also, she's basically just done with NUSA and the FIA at this point. Not long after this, she quits/goes awol and sends V a 'retirement' postcard
Personally, I liked Alex more than Reed. Just from the interactions and how she was more open and personable. Unlike Reed who, true to his character, was more closed off and not as "friendly" or seemingly available.
Me too, that's mostly the reason why I betrayed Reed because I didn't want Alex to die. When she called me, I fully expected a boss fight or something, glad I was wrong. Best this way anyway, Alex gets a happy ending and V also get happy ending (Nomad ending)
@@owl-ishThat's my main reason for helping So Mi as well. I do not want Alex to die.
Too bad that the siding with Reed missions looks cooler than siding with So Mi, lore wise as well as what you can get.
@@owl-ishTechnically you can betray Reed and then change your mind at the end and hand So Mi in anyway. That way Alex and Reed both live. So does So Mi, I guess, but what she gets barely seems like much of a life.
@@ScoopMeisterGeneral I know, but honestly I think it's better to send So Mi to the moon. I know she betrayed me, but I knew that Myers is just gonna use her as a lab rat. Myers pretty much ripped humanity out of her already. She is hardly more human than the maelstrom and that's saying something.
@@owl-ish Totally agree
I think Alex partly knew Song's escape plan and was quietly helping her. This is indicated by the suspicious emails on her computer between A. and S. and the package you get at the airport. She was also not particularly moved by Reed's death and understood that V had done what was necessary.
Multiple layers of betrayal all around….
Shit. Where can i re-read these emails ive already played through all the missions
@@thomas.02lets Play, Play IT again or old save file
This ^. My face when I read the email afterward...... She is truly the greatest spy
@@thomas.02Check the safe house under the bar where Alex gives you her old pistol, they should be in there if I remember correctly
I cannot express how much I appreciate your technique of going through the entire dialog tree. So many people just go down a single path or superficially skim over options that would involve having completed other content (like romances / calling friends). I need to go see how thoroughly you covered the NUSA cure ending. Thanks!
Reed is a man who has been selling his soul piece by piece to the government he's loyal to, hating every step of it but not able to stop making that same mistake. Telling himself he should have done differently, he should do different, but ultimately never changing. He was always going hand over Songbird, no matter what he told himself. He was always going to defend Myers. If he survived, there'd come a day where he find he had no soul left so sell. And he wouldn't live past that realization.
Alex understood this, which is why she wanted out. And which is why at the end, she can't blame V.
"can you be Aurore Cassel one last time?"
I love how confused she is with all those people
V who the fuck are you talking about
Thought the same thing. Super awkward because like, who are these people to her? And hell, why toast to T-bug or Evelyn when Jackie would be a better option if a bit awkward on Alex's part.
@@kaisersickle154I mean, a celebration it’s a celebration.
@@kaisersickle154In my run, I celebrated to T-Bug. Jackie got a funeral. But T-Bug? Barely anything. So, a tiny toast in the middle of nowhere with a girl that walked a similar tune? She deserved a bit of celebration.
@@flooferderp2918It makes sense. But also Jackie's death affected V the most, you get a huge number of prompts to talk about him, so V always keeps Welles in his mind.
@@miguelcondadoolivar5149 Sure sure, we know. But we always found it a shame that T-Bug gets jack squat besides a small little gift. Not even a tiny side quest. (Jackie *is* great though, don't get me wrong)
I drank to silverhand too and at first I was regretting it until Johny said “no, to you V” felt wholesome, he’s the one that’s been with us through it all
Always drink to Johnny. At this point he's saved your life at least once possibly twice. He also has no interest in taking V's body. He just wants to burn Mikoshi because of what it did to him, which i respect.
I drank to Johnny because out of everyone, he's the only one actually there to witness V raising a toast to him. The dead don't give a shit because they're, y'know, dead. That, and the fact that he saved V's life. The least V can do is give him something a dead person logically never gets to enjoy.
Oh please Alex be for real. You must be at least Morgan Blackhand to be able to kill V
Ela solou o Hansen na furtividade, de a vadia um pouco de crédito
Did outmatched Hansen, and V will have to watch his back every turn of the street
Probably more than that. V can storm a corpo HQ on his own and beat Adam Smasher at the end of it.
I was doing the Black Saphire mission and they went through this elaborate plan to get in. I was thinking... why not just let V storm through the main gate? Might even kill Hansen in the process.
@@ixiahj because recognizing what a badass V is and how he can solo armies wouldn't be very healthy for the narrative. Also, it's a DLC about spies, they had to make a spy mission
The V I play as can take down multiple squads of maxtac at once but we all have 1 crucial weakness: the janitor robot 😢
Man Alex is such a good character. I straight up do Songbird route just to keep her alive.
It’s brutal how Hanson rips her face off.
Im with you.
Literally the ONLY reason I side with Songbird. Songbird came on wayyy too strong from the very beginning, which felt manipulative, and then my suspicions were correct toward the end (because I started thinking, "okay, maybe I was wrong. And the writers are just really bad...").
@@Leomerya12right? Man, the moment she opened her trap yapping about trust I smelled the stench of backstabbing rat. And rat she is, wallowing in self-pity all the fuсking time. I get the will to live and fight for your life, but trying to screw V over knowing that they're in exact same situation as she is, dying... I despise Ratbird. I disliked Johnny at first but that's it, and he was straightforward. Ratbird is manipulative, treacherous, two-faced pathetic excuse of a human being. And what pisses me off the most is knowing that it's not even her fault, not completely at least.
Hearing Johnny call Jackie a legend is really sweet.
the thoroughness and completion is what I am looking for, thank you for the good work.
If you get past the point in Panams questline when you down the AV, you can toast to scorpion as well
I absolutely *loved* how many twists this story took. I figured siding with Song would result in both Alex and Reed dying, but the fact Alex lives, AND doesn't want to kill you, especially after the way she screams thru the window at the moment of betrayal, was such a pleasant surprise. And the last convo with Alex in the bar brought out another feature I fucking adore about 2077, which is the NPC facial expressions. You can see such a strong mixture of grief and relief on Alex's face
Honestly when I got that call I was fully expecting an ambush by NUSA goons and a boss fight Vs Alex
I was fully prepared to kill Alex, and was pleasantly surprised by her not choosing the stupid option
Why would it be stupid? She’d just be doing her job and getting rid of a loose end
@@williammoutchia9292bc V is op af. dont matter the build
@@williammoutchia9292 cause V is V
It’s like trying to fist fight a bear cause your boss told you too.
@@williammoutchia9292 Did you see the scene at the airport? No way she'd make it lol.
@@sansventura7199 why should she have to slam the brakes on her job just because it’s V? That’s like telling a cop not to enforce the law just because Mike Tyson is the criminal or something.
I was hoping for a shiver me Timbers option in response to the threats, V doesn't go down that easy 😂
I appreciate the way that you went through all of the dialogue options more than I can say! I wish more TH-camrs did the same! I'll have to see what other videos you have, 'cause there are definitely some dialogue options that I regret missing when they were yellow and not blue.
I’m sad when drinking to those that were lost, it’s bs that they did not make the joke of add another achievement reading “ to this, one last time” with V just saying “ to this “
My man, corpo lifepath 4life
really too bad she doesnt show up in a credit vid, just chilling on some beach sipping martinis
with no lawn work needed. she deserves it.
That's why i love storytelling by CD Projekt Red by The Passionate people working on this game
Imagine giving your body to Johnny and the FIA finds out years later you are still not dead.
I'm glad V's mentioning T-bug again
i was on the same page as Alex for a solid few seconds :( wish we got more of T-bug
She never threatened V, because she knew V was dying from the relic. She only said that after V was killed by it (if they are) she’ll claim the bounty they have on them.
I chose to save Songbird and send to her space but damn killing Reed for me was like killing a friend who was loyal to a fault to his “master” despite them getting him “killed” and he was dogmatic about his *principals* to the very end. I gotta say it did get him killed and he was used as a knight and a pawn. But if you look from his point of view he was truly dead after what happened after So Mi led him to the trap years ago and I think he knew in a way you’d kill him thus freeing him of his burdens. Otherwise he kills you and continues the cycle waiting for someone else to best him. That’s the way it is in my V story. I liked his character, he was the relatable Yang to V’s Yin. Not everyone gets to be a hero and he was willing to die for his cause just like V. Even if he’s on the wrong side I respect his character.
And Songbird did the same thing V is trying to do, survive, I can’t blame her for playing a masterful game. V’s real ending for me is don’t fear the reaper. He becomes legend and closes off many stories including his own after sacrificing the “cure” for Song So Mi. If V had taken the cure all he did was for nothing and a boring end for him. His character clearly wanted to go out in blaze of glory especially for his fallen friend Jackie.
Such good writing, just like life the happy ending isn’t always the fairytale ending. Would I have enjoyed a fairytale ending option. Sure, but they could still use everything for a sequel, who knows what’s next if so. If you read all this kudos choom, I applaud the story I’m only just now finishing it after all these years.
Honestly, I would like nothing more than that to be the canon, and to play a new character in the next game. Someone who had a passing relationship with V. One such character is Max Jones. A media you help in one of Regina's gigs.
imo, i perfer rogue/sun ending
I wish there was a romance option with alex
Thank you for including all of drinking to: “To ___” character options you are an actual saint 🙏
Not only that but you did ALL other options with Alex’s dialogue…
You also missed one additional “drink to” option and that is Scorpion from the aldecados, but for some reason you didn’t get the option.
Thank you. Not sure if being in a corpo path had to do with the scorpio dialogue. Now, I wonder who else may be included aside from scorpio.
@@misternoobie I think you have to do a certain side quest involving mitch and scorpion to get the option to drink to scorpion.
“To River, who went looking for his brother at the wrong farm and got himself blown up by a landmine.”
😂😂
@@misternoobie I saw somewhere that you can trink to Takemura if he's dead.
You can yes, I have it in my game because I didnt realise you could save him @Erealenda
"Yeah, good luck with that, Alex"
9:38 nah johnny is so fcked up for this 😭 it was really hard for (my) v to kill reed, she liked him a lot and felt bad for him.
wish corpo v could have toasted "to this" like in the corpo intro and afterlife..
I killed Reed on my first Phantom playthrough, did not wait long enough for Alex to call, did not realize she would. Man, there are so many surprises to this game, when you think you seen it all, something else pops up.
From the get-go, I liked Alex better than Reed. Reed struck me as someone who might talk a big deal about trust, having your back, camaraderie etc...but will ALWAYS choose his greater loyalties if he to pick between the two. I felt if Myers was to straight up and go say they will vivisect So Mi once they capture her, Reed would have STILL found a way to rationalise that as helping So Mi.
Everything in the DLC proved me right, and I am glad Alex survived and got a happy ending.
she was my favourite character from the dlc!
Why would V drink to T-bug of all people? she`s the least relevant on the list
i head-canon t-bug was V’s best friend so
@@tigrispanthera5496She sure didn't seem like it from the little dialogue we got
I think it's cause V finds alex and T-bug somewhat similar, both desperately wanted to get away from everything to live in some warm sunny place
@@sharpasacueballnot at all, she’s like the least likely V friend outside Dex IMO.
Probably because they can? And why does it matter who someone drinks to in a video game?💀
I wish there was dialogue that V said "Reed's plans would of gotten you killed" because its clear she was NOT looped in on that.
Songbird gets Alex killed because she sells her and V out. Don't get it twisted.
Alex: it’s my job to kill you
Level 60 V: 🙄😒
She lived happily the rest of her life after that
"Time to find some new friends. Grow to like. Then murder." Cold, John boy. I didn't befriend or like Reed to begin with. I worked with him because I didn't have much choice if I wanted So Mi to keep her promise.
I laughed hard when Johnny said that ngl. Kinda liked Reed (as a character, he was great, but personally? Nah, he a lapdog for the wrong one) but there was no question that So Mi and Alex alive was the choice for me.
for real , he was obviously a too loyal lapdog and i knew that would be a liability in terms of friendship so i always kept my distance personally
And after the Tower ending, I’m just kill Reed everytime. Getting chased by an EMMI and getting a machine gun isn’t worth it.
Playing through all the endings made me realize Johnny was right... they're the worst of the bunch. Armed Forces. Goddamn it Reed.
These kind of games where you kill 100s of enemies in the morning and people threaten you or think you can’t handle yourself.
I mean, it’s kind of their job. Why shouldn’t they do that?
@@williammoutchia9292 because FIA agents and fixers are supposed to know who you are and what you have been doing
1) Alex dropped Hansen in hand-to-hand, just sliced like sushi. Guy was not Smasher-level maybe, but one of the game bosses for sure.
2) Hardly a threat. More like a fair warning that FIA will not let it go. Personally she will not do a thing to kill you for real.
I wish we had gotten at least one romance option out of her, songbird or aurore
I was down horrendous for Songbird. Forgot all about Judy and planned our whole life only for her to leave me on Earth 😔
@@La-PetitMort Well it was that or the memory sequence which is 10x more depressing than betraying Reed in my opinion.
Songbird doesn't care about you or anyone else. She cares only about saving her own skin. If you ever thought that would be in the cards then well you got honey trapped. The oldest trick in the spy handbook.
I wish we had gotten a romance option with Angie
Been looking for this extra scene with a corpo v to see what they say. Damn... this makes things interesting on what happens next
its always funny when characters try to flex on you in the game. they really dont know you can solo an entire army xd.
Flash back: "I also have a doll chip"
*_Gets one shot by my shotty_*
End of flashback
I mean she took down Hansen quite easily if you side with so mi.🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
Final comment from Johnny is pure gold, lmao. What a solid piece of a choom.
if u sided with song i thought alex would have hansens knife
Drinking to T-bug is crazy hahahahahha
Only good choice is to drink to Johnny, none of them were in the game long enough for me to give a crap about them.
When I decided to side with So Mi, I didn't really care about what happens to Reed. Alex was the one who kept me worried. Sad that there weren't more interactions with her, or a romance even.
when heard a threat i was like Alex must of forgot what i did to those soldiers at the space station.
Alex is the real one, she never lied to you and her intention was clear, to get out of FIA, she's the only person that you can truly trust in the DLC, my biggest regret in choosing saving Song is betraying Alex, but at least she got what she wanted and there's no bad feeling between the two
I always took it as saving song bird Alex because regardless Alex gets killed if you choose reeds side.
@@theexoreviewer5699 I didn’t know that when I made the comment so helping songbird really is just the best option.
How is she alive, she died when we inflitrated the black sapphire to save songbird 😮 what is this storyline ive never seen before
you had a different choice in the black sapphire firestarter mission. this happens if you side with songbird.
I really wanted to fight kurt hansen but fuck i dont want alex to die LOL
Idk , never saw this as a threat , more like "you gonna die anyways from the relic so might as well just let you be and do your own thing"
1:00 Alpha Centauri, next game hopefully
cdpr missed an opportunity to make alex a boss fight
In a run where I don't care about Erebus/Kanto CD, I'll always side with Song, but for Alex. She deserves her happy ending the most. So Mi's living on borrowed time, Myers doesn't deserve a power weapon like that, and Reed is still that walking ghost, just living for the memory of what he used to be, who he used to follow. Alex kept dreaming during her time in DTown, waiting for her moment of freedom, she has the most to gain and lose.
She's the only reason I sided with Songbird, even though Songbird lied to my face the ENTIRE dlc. Don't want her to die and miss out on that retirement plan.
My only regret about my ending choice (side with Reed but kill So Mi at the end) is that Alex dies too. She was really cool.
She’s letting you know she’s gunna stay out of your biz
I'll always spoilers because I can't spoilers spoilers. I just feel like this is not spoilers. Now spoilers is in my head all the time like ... whatever
I didn't know she could even survive I need to do some googling LOL
Maybe you can one shot Kurt Hansen, but Alex dropped the guy quite faster than i did in my pro-reed run...
cato be like "nuro-matrix acquired" can't let that new body of influence go to waste now.
Not a threat more of a friendly warning when you're time comes I'll be there ..which Alex DOESNT judge you at all for doing what you had too....shit even reed is still alive saying close to the same shit...even after you shoot his ass or at least it did for me.
I didn’t know you could save her, she died in my playthrough
You have to side with Songbird in Firestarter to save Alex
alex has sandy and can camo
Best ending for PL is when reed dies cause screw tyrants
LOL was I the only one who thought, after getting this call, that Alex was gonna kill me?
I didn't trust her until after this conversation. Even the scene where you share a beer with her...felt a little weird for her to be letting down her hair so quick with someone she only just met.
I mean, high stress situations and all that, sure, but still - I figured Alex would try to complete the mission, so to speak.
On my playthrough she never did get that retirement 😔
And let's just say the agency can't imprison songbird again😢
She wouldn’t stand a chance anyway
The fact that NUS wants V dead, says that SPOILER: they intentionally fried V's nerves in the end, it wasn't damage caused by Neural matrix. it was a lie, johnny gone, and V broken, NUS's fault.
That's not what happens, they only want V dead if you side with Songbird. If you side with Reed there's no reason for them not to do everything they can to help V, especially since it wouldn't surprise me if Myers wanted V on her payroll afterwards.
I can't believe the utter disrespect Alex can give in this convo. At this point, V has cut down tonnes of the FIA's best Black Ops. She had him at gunpoint and he turned the tables on her in an instant. As far as she's concerned, V defeated Reed too. What makes her think she'll ever be in a position to put a black sack over his head? It's ridiculous that the FIA and Myers don't treat V as Morgan Blackhand the Second once the DLC is over.
She talks to him like a clown from the afterlife
I do like that Reed and Alex respond pretty dismissively to V's comments in the beginning. The, "you're no Morgan Blackhand" kind of stuff, but here at the end... it just doesn't make any sense. Even after you wipe a veritable platoon of NUSA spec ops he still never treats you like a greater force than him, or even a threat.
And similarly, here, Alex does the same thing. They should have had V respond with something like, "yeah, that's what Reed thought too". Just to show the growth, if not even just for your character but in how they're seen.
It's not a threat lol. Quite the opposite, actually. She got an order to kill you, and instead of doing it, she tells you about it face to face, and then says that she has no intention to actually carry it out. Honestly, my favourite character in PL. Very simple, yet very likeable
I wanted to like Reed until he started talking about Cynosure. He knew what was going on all along. My V was all about NOT zeroing all of humanity in the name of God and country.
Gotta go back now and see those A& S emails mentioned in the commenfs here.
What I am about to write is a happy rant and by no means a mark on this game, I fuckin love it:
I find it funny how the game consistently has npc's and other main characters state V as "not important.' When infact, V is effectively the doomslayer of cyberpunk and you can literally 1 v 50 max tac goons in under a few seconds. That's not even the limit of your abilities. You fight Adam Smasher, even mods to make him lore accurate, V STILL can feed him his own tin can butt cheeks in half a second. NPC's saying "save the stale comebacks" is really funny. I am always sitting there like "bruh, I killed my way through dog town to get here FASTER than actually driving. Fuck you mean, "SaVe tHe StAle CoMeBacKs" V IS HIM (or her)
Its more just a funny observation that makes me chuckle. Especially in scenes where you team up with somebody to fight off some bad guys, and you straight up solo the entire encounter without breaking a sweat before the npc ally can fire a single shot.
or when you meet Myers for the first time and they some how just manage to knock you on your ass with the most telegraphed attacks, threaten to shoot you. Even with game breaking stats, they still manage to do this. (if you have high body stat you can ignore this). After that convo, she needs your help, which then you proceed to UNLEASH the entire games code on a bunch of goons in seconds, causing mass carnage. With Myers then saying "not bad." Like MUTHA FUCKA, I just committed 19 war crimes, took out several weapon platforms, robbed families of their fathers, in under 5 seconds.
Gives me a good belly laugh.
MY MAN You're THE REAL DEAL, STAY SAFE AND STAY STRONG.
Honestly, many of CP2077's mistakes can be rooted back to TW3, as many aspects seem to be just straight up imports. The problem is,both the story and environment are different in the two games
T-bug wtf?
I don't get some of the toasts, a lot died before they even met!
Ok but why would anyone drink to T-Bug ?
why not ?
I just have to say, who would raise a glass to T-bug?? She seems like such a minor character in the final game despite the bigger plans that the devs had for her in the concept art, genuinely almost forgettable. Just weird that she's even an option.
Clickbait..that being said it was nice seeing all the dialogue. In my ending she’s 6 ft under. I did avenge her though, killed Kurt with her signature gun
Smash option
Man, I wish I could play Phantom Liberty, but the damn game keeps crashing on me.
I have finished both finals, i think killing songbird is more exciting just for going to cynosure, the blackwall hack etc, buuuut i love songbird, her path is really good at the orbital space station, i think more chill, but at the end my favorite character is living and in the moon 🌙
She's so nice, I love her, she should've been a romancable character, especially for femV because her other options are dull as hell... I mean, they're nice, but they're so plain...
Fuuuuck. I dont wanna side with Songbird(nor do I want her and the blackwall AI she has access to getting in anyones hands, FIA or Nightcorp), but I really want her to love. She's literally the only redeeming character in the whole expansion
How long did you have to wait before getting her to call?. I was doing a few last gigs before i started the last mission in the main campaign, didn't get a call from her.
24 hours
who tf likes T Bug
People that like T Bug
Does this still happen if you betray reed initially but then let him take song bird at the end?
Nope, I did exactly that, and this conversation doesn’t happen
@@williammoutchia9292 thanks brotherman
Kinda late to the party, but it happens only when you help So Mi get to the moon because you have to kill Reed and thats the only way.@@gavinsmith2656
@@williammoutchia9292Really? I had this conversation way before I even got the quest to help So Mi through the spaceport. I thought it had already ended at that point lol I went off to do Panam's, Judy's and Kerry's quests.
She’s wifey I can careless
wow… nice to drink to evelyn. she was one of my favs and deserved better. to ev 🥃
Wasn't a fan of any of the new endings. I get it Night City doesn't offer happy endings but I would have liked if my choices had some redeeming value.
To Save her or add another sociopath in V's head with Canto/Erebus... Truely a cornelian choice. Yeah... Let's put what was slowly killing So Mi in my head as well... Silverhand isn't enough.... I swear V can do some truely outrageously dumb shit in this game.
Hansen was on easy mode when she killed him.
Canto is also attacking your nuro process by attacking both nano bots and brain. It can also slow down the process of the relic itself by combatting against it.
To me that was the best ending for me but with Rogue and i let Johnny take control so he could get revenge on Adam Smasher and i let Songbird die and not let Reed and the FIA to not have her... Reed is a puppet and FIA is well the FIA...I cant let Songbird go to the moon neither because Mr Bleu Eyes will have her which IS NOT GOOD if you know who/what Mr Bleu Eyes really is... so the best option is to complete the mission by sticking with Reed. Fight Hansen(bad ass bossfight) Fight the Maxtac(bad ass bossfigh) Run from the Blackwall Robot(metal Gear vibe) and free Songbird by letting her die.
Nice try but if you choose Silverhands wish to revenge Adam Smasher later you work with Mr.Blue Eyes and met him in Afterlife to talk about the big mission to enter the crystal palace. If you do your research about Mr.Blue Eyes it’s clearly he works for Night Corp. and Richard Knight the creator of Night City got a vision for a city that is peacefully and everybody have a good job and life but someone kills him, after that They call this city as a tribute Night City, his wife is still alive but she lives very unknown like and Night Corp works very secretly and invest in poor people with talents, people like Peralez to control the politicians.
@@deathloop935 mr blue eyes is AI, we can't trust him if we don't want AI to destroy blackwall
what car is that?
Quadra Type 66, the Cthulhu variant I believe.
yes. that is the type 66 cthulhu variant.
I felt it like a backstab when I tried to give her the best life by choosing to betray SongBird, I had no clue she'd be taken down so fast by Hasen. It was the right choice all the way to betray Song but I couldn't leave Alex like that.
how do I get this?
Side with so mi in the final mission.