MMA Training, if I could do it all again…
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Chael Sonnen talks MMA Training in 2021 on this episode of Beyond the Fight.
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Tony Ferguson the type of guy to double down on Wing Chun if he could do it all over again
Just think of all the steel posts he conditioned with his shins
lmao
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😎dont wear shades indoors especially if you have happy feet.
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Tony the type of Guy to get a do over but do nothing different.
haven’t finished the vid but i’d assume triangle defence might be in here
Undefeated and undisputed
@@notproductiveproductions3504 he could’ve taken that 5th round vs silva as well tho. shame the fight ended 49-46
@@fqq4137 he won h
😂😂😂😂😂
Nope
If I could start over my mma career I’d move to Dagestan, wrestle some bears and limit my vocabulary to “doesn’t matter, brudda, send location, not my level, I deserve this, brudda”
you thought this was it huh 😐💀
going tryhard for some youtube likes lmao
@@joaquin1267 i don't think you catch his drift my guy
@@joaquin1267 Wtf is wrong with trying to be funny?
@@joaquin1267 fk me who ruined your day
The one thing for sure is really really not letting anyone get close.
“If I could do MMA again, I would have brought more things to people, introduced the leg cross game earlier and lost a round just to see what it feels like.” - 100% accurate translation of his answer.
The best fighters train in
Judo.....trips
Muay thai......elbows, low kick
Taekwondo.....high kicks
Wrestling.......takedowns
Boxing......punches
Jiu jitsu....... submissions
Jon Jones.....eye pokes
Best fighters in the Ufc is technically grapplers aka men who have a different kind of takedown but that evades strikes for example khabib and Usman thing is this is based off of Wrestling but is not directly wrestling.
I agree tho they train those individually but you get where im coming from.
The student DC was fast learner
who was the last fighter he poked in the eye
To beat a boxer and kick-boxer, you CLINCH.
To beat a wrestler, you SUBMIT.
So, Muay Thai & BJJ.
Limit their offensive weapons.
“My hands are heavy and most importantly they are very fast. I have been called the fastest white man alive. I don't work submissions and not because I am trying to prove something I'm just frankly not very good at 'em. I am very good at getting away. I've never fought anybody whether it was in practice or competition who could hold me down. Even if I thought I could get a submission I'm not laying underneath a grown man with my legs spread on worldwide T.V. Some guys subscribe to that theory but I am a Republican and we don't do that” - Chael Sonnen
lmao
Chael is on the all time human list, right next the Julius Gaias Caesar
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@@SunTzuMedia another all time human. I heard you wrote a best seller
Chael P. mufckn Sonnen!!!!!
Chaels greatest enemy was his best technique.
Being on top in closed guard.
I wouldn't change my MMA career for anything. I spent 100% of my training on the couch "studying the film" 💪
Chael should’ve stopped lifting weights in his early teens, his arms developed at an alarming pace and never stopped expanding to the point where they weighed 50 pounds each. Now Uncle Chael is the strongest man on the planet but nobody is carrying 100 pounds of arm for 25 minutes without them getting tired, unfortunately Chael couldn’t keep his arm up and it got caught in a triangle. Although, Chael has never lost.
Chael: Wrestling is unused
Khabib: Hold my beer
Ronda rousey done pretty well with her judo considering she was lacking in her stand up game
The level of competition and fear played a big factor into that until it no longer did. Not taking anything away from her but the comparison isn’t the same.
@@slicknikko65 I mean yeah but the level of competition and fear plays into most rising stars. Like khamzats one punch ko because the other fighter was visibly scared to do anything
Judo is underrated
I respectfully disagree. I think her opponents were so unskilled at the time, her skills seemed much better. If she attempted to fight any of the current girls..She would be smashed.
@@jasonnames She did fight some really good fighters tho like miesha tate and cat zingano.
Not leave that arm on the ground after destroying Anderson for 24 minutes.
Interviewer:Chael if you could do it all again what would you change or do differently?
Chael: I would have never let Wanderlei get so close...
Wonderboy's Karete in MMA is incredible to watch. He actually looks like a video game character with all of the moves he pulls off. The way he fights means he takes such little damage as well.
Chael: wrestling doesnt work anymore
Kabib: hold my beer
Bear*
Khabib doesn’t drink lol
Like almost all of the champs are wrestlers
Khabib doesn't drink he is Muslim
@@obaidaserdar1780 that's why chael is holding it duh!!!!
@@thatoneguy9040 that's why chael is holding it dude!!!
He just summed up what I've been trying to find the best words to explain for years. This is why MMA has become its own sport. You do 100% benefit from wrestling, if you're a tough wrestler , have the experience of the grind , have the work ethic and the BASICS. That doesn't just mean a single leg, a double leg, a sprawl, maybe understanding the tie up game etc. That also means understanding how to use your hips, how to control, how to breath, how to get your bearings in a scramble and the balance of it all. So this is why we see guys who were tough at high school level or maybe even decent at a Jr.College level, immediately start to learn striking & submissions and can go out and dominate a high-level Division 1 stand out.
Same for boxing - if you take a kid who knows how to wrestle and you give him his outside boxing education (Jabs, straight power shot rear hand, outside hooks, overhand & uppercuts) he has an amazing arsenal to start with. While the pure boxer will spend years perfecting his outside, mid way and inside ranges (not to mention his work on entering into and out of those ranges) his pivots and angles from inside to out, all of that is dead when his opponent can now grab him and tie him up, trip, knee, elbow etc same goes for BJJ etc etc...
My wife: Hey hon, I need you to
Me:Hold on brother, Uncle Chael is talking
He never lost a round, what would he change.
Chael didnt need to spend more time on anything but deflating the biggest arms from west lin oregon. Those things were so heavy they damn near weighed him down
Ok great, but where does Kevin Lee fit into all this? and just how good is Conor McGregor?
Mma: if I could have a Chael Sonnen all over again
Usman, Covington, Khabib, Cehudo, DC... the list goes on even further. All of these guys rule.
They use wrestling as a fear factor but they use the skills they have from other martial arts to actually win.
Stipe ???
The question is when is enough wrestling enough? Its what Chael seems to be getting at. At what point do you start training other areas of martial arts that you would need in MMA competition.
3 of those 5 are retired
All Convington did was sniff croches . . .
Chael: Judo is ineffective in mma
Fedor: Okay great.
Dude never lost a round. What regrets could he possibly have?
This is why prime Fedor is the greatest. A brown belt in EVERYTHING. Just enough everywhere to be very dangerous. Never the absolute best in any faucet of the game, but fused it all together the best out of everyone. Even to this day.
Common sense.
Strikers can’t wrestle. You take them down.
Wrestlers can’t strike. You avoid the ground at all cost.
That’s why everyone loves standup. The ground is so overlooked. People don’t understand the true potential on the ground.
@@alohatigers1199 Although many assume "I cant let you get close" is the best MMA base, it's actually "I cant let you put me back into the poor period of my life" popularized by Fedor. Few know this
But where would 19-year-old Vitor minus the elephant steroids fit into all this?
where would any mma fighter from today be without roids?
@@ruijackson7697 Believe it or not, there are several squeaky clean fighters out there. The number is certainly debatable, though.
@@Strype13 ye the squeaky clean ones are the guys who dont make it.
Even look at the smaller organisations all the fighters are juiced to bits
@@ruijackson7697 yeah bro Shaun o malley and Derrick Lewis tottally roided bro
You see various judo tosses all the time. It's quite utilised
Chael doesn’t have regrets about mma, mma has regrets about Chael
I think eventually being able to switch stance without compromise in abilities will be a standard thing
I wonder if the advantage long term will be for switch hitters or ppl who learn to deal w both dynamics mostly from 1 stance w minimal switching
-Judo has never worked in mma
Ronda Rousey: Am I a joke to you?
Chael has mastered every technique so what would there be to learn?
“Judo doesn’t translate to mma”
Ever heard of rousey?
Yea roused used it brilliantly
one of the few that used it effectively
@@sman3424 yeah when she stopped using it
I’m told that karo parisyan was also a pleb
There were a few great judo practitioners in MMA, Yoshida, Rouse, the other blonde girl I forgot her name.
The thing is that Most of judo practitioners do not want to go into mma, even though some submission techniques are equal or better than jiu-jitsu
If Chael says he’s gonna be a champion by god he is gonna be undefeated and undisputed just like Uncle Chael!! Let’s go Sage!! You’ll have my support, all the way from Alabama!
Good news Tank Abbott. You're a great athlete.
For one thing, hitting bags and pads is a waste of time. I read a great book called Blasting Boxing Myths and the author claims that most training for fighting is a complete waste of time. Makes sense and has made a believer in me. Every fighter should read it
I love that I just shake my head when Chael humbly reminds us that this is the most popular mma show on the internet, that being said, this video was released less than half an hour ago and im not even close. I must give credit where its due Uncle Chael.
Any friend of Uncle Chael’s is a friend to all of us. Good luck Sage Brown.
Sage is a bad ass I’m from oregon too sage is a good family friend of mine we train at separate gyms now but he’ll be a top pro soon
@@wyattperkins7478 good to hear I’ll keep an eye out for him .
I think you're wrong on this one Chael. Judo one's of the most useful tools to have when doing MMA and MMA fighters have shown this to be the case, like Ronda Rousey who used to dominate with the transition from throw to takedown (before her career stopped due to wanting to be a stand-up fighter). Judo can prepare you for something not a lot of MMA fighters do: throws and upright grappling. Some of the most essential elements to a stand-up game are shoulder throws, hips throws, sweeps and suplexes, Judo has all of these. these simple moves enable great transitions to other moves. This is also why Greco-Roman Wrestlers do so well in MMA (whereas freestyle wrestling is suited more for takedowns, which originates from Catch-wrestling).
The reason why this isn't focused on more simply due to lack of imagination. In MMA you mostly have Thai Boxing, BJJ, Boxing and maybe some freestyle wrestling if you grew up with it. No one wants to diversify or vary themselves. You get people incorporating Wing Chun or Karate every so often, however these are niches at best. A lot of MMA fighters and trainers lack diversity and imagination to make their combat more effective. It's a case of using the same tools rather than seeing what could be better and, believe me, things could be better.
The thing is you only have a certain amount of training a week. You’re better off taking that time to train wrestling, BJJ , Muay Thai and boxing instead of Judo.
If you have never lost a round or never lost a fight why would you change anything?
Maybe Judo would transfer over better if they worked more no-gi, and/or they worked on their mma style clinch a lot. A pressure style like Khabib's could have used some judo if you cut the octagon off and trap someone against the cage, or if you're able to force them into a standup grapple.
Uncle Chael's mma career wouldn't change. Mma would change for his career.
Mr Sonnen, when you talk about the ineffectiveness of judo to mma. What about ronda rousey? (Kayla Harrison also comes to mind)
She had no real competition till Holm and Amanda
@@oneill765 Facts. It's easy to be a shark in a small pond.... until other sharks come lurking about.
Amanda and valentina are black belt in judo, valentina uses a lot of judo.
Theres nothing to change Uncle Chael. You are Undefeated, Undisputed, Never Lost a Round, Largest Biceps in West Lynn, and Tito Tapped.
Judo has never translated to mma: enter Rhonda and Kayla Harrison
The problem is MMA is devolving from a pure sport to being just entertainment. It's becoming more like WWE. They want to see striking not grappling.
Dan Severn would throw and crush every modern mixed martial artists with the weight of his mustache alone
I think of judo similar to TKD. If it’s your main style mma will be difficult for you. If you are well versed in the other areas of mma and take only the parts of the art the are effective you can be successful. Bjj Guys ( esp gi) can benefit greatly from judo training, but chael was talking about just mma
Wrestling nowadays is not displayed as much because people got better at take down defense, and they don't want to waste energy with the takedown
The fighters that are using it to its maximum effect and have success are Colby, Kamaru and Khabib as some examples because they have incredible cardio to sustain the pressure
Both arms in or both arms out, never one arm in and one arm out at the same time.
I'm 37 years old I live in the mountains of North Carolina and I myself have went through the wringer as far as wrestling fist fighting bare knuckle MMA I've done a little bit of everything but I will say this I've always told my wife if I ever come across the right kid I would show him and I would give him 100% of my time to try to get him to the top because every kid out there that loves MMA and really wants to try and make something of their self if they really put their heart in mind to it you can do it anyone can do it the one word that I will say is this a lot of fighters when they are so good and they have these big brash records but the thing is when they are in the cage and they hit someone it's okay but when they start seeing their own blood that's when a lot of fighters actually freak out it's the fighters who can take the punch and keep on fighting but myself I would love to have always wanted to be a trainer I've always wanted to do that and to find someone willing to actually go that extra mile and listen to me and trained and listen to me because I know what I'm talking about and it becomes to MMA the ground game and much more elbows you know just simple things but a lot of things that a lot of fighters I see do not use like when you see Islam or khabib when they take these fighters down and they wrap their legs up and they just make it look so strong there's a way that you can get out of that and get back to your feet really fast and in the process you cannot come out during that process but for some reason I never see a I don't know if any other other trainers has ever figured this out or not but there is simple trick to actually doing this and it would work and the whole wrestling scheme of ground and pound would go out the window in a blink of a second I promise and if anyone doubts what I'm saying right now please my name is Michael send me a comment and I would love to show anyone anywhere anytime even on a video how to do this and it's simple not because they're strong it's not because they're just really good at what they do they are really good at what they do don't get me wrong I'm just saying that in itselfis easier to get out of and beat the fight and win the fight then it is the stand across the cage from a Conor McGregor who can take your lights out within a split second but if you get past the first round you're doing pretty good other than that the ground game all I'm going to be straight up with if anyone should look at the ground game look at Jon Jones's ground game no one's ever took that man down and held him down not once not for a long period of time and it's not because he can't be taken down it's because he knows how to get back up that's the key if you know how to get back up but at the same time you don't have to knock that person out and knocked that f***** to where they can't see the daylight then you're going to be the winner of so if anybody out there is looking for a good trainer please hit me up I would love to train anyone at any time I just only thing I ask is please if you want to take this seriously take it seriously I am a trainer and I will train
yes it is one of these things
I love the honesty. Alywasy more of this.
i googled sage brown and it came up with a photographer who also HAPPENED to be from portland oregon
Thank you again, Chael “Father Underground” Sonnen
I dont know much about MMA training but I'm curious to see how Kevin Lee fits into all this
The only question that has ever mattered.
Chael in 2021 by biggest goat ever
Since I watch Wonder Boys channel, it's pretty cool hearing Chael not only mention him but also compliment his athleticism.
i was playing UFC 4 and i had literally 6 and a half minutes of control and lost by decision
trolled.
Ruas of the 90's would arguably be a top 10 HW these days. The division is still relatively thin, and his stand up holds up really well.
Too small for HW, he’d have to compete at 205 or 185.
Hence, why Bruce Lee's vision was way a head of his time
Kikuta Sanae was a Judoka who won 88kg ADCC in 2001.
Wrestling fundamentals+Strong boxing basics+Bjj then sprinkle kickboxing over for example leg kicks and seeing kicks come and boom.
Here’s what I see is the most important things right now:
1. Learn to box well, don’t get knocked the fuck out. Not that elbows don’t work, but the concept of crashing punches with elbows in Muay Thai doesn’t seem as viable in MMA
2. Learn to be on top at all costs. A good guard is good, but learning to “fight” off your back may prove equally effective as allocating time to guard submissions when there are no strikes being used. Let’s be honest we haven’t seen guard submissions be as effective in 2023 as they were in the early 2010’s. And if you get taken down mid round, on average 2.5-2 minutes is just not enough time to get up
3.learn how to defend leg kicks in a bladed boxer stance. Let’s be honest, nobody stands square anymore because there’s so many advantages of a slightly angled off stance, however this makes everyone susceptible to leg kicks, but we’re not going to stand square just because of one strike, but we need to respect that one strike
At the end of the day a hard shot involving a rear hand or a lead hook followed by some kind of back take RNC is most of these fights are ending. So you might as well work backwards from what’s working.
Notable mention is calf kicks, fence wrestling, and a new approach to “sprawl and brawl” which involves striking an opponent who has you against the fence to interrupt their way of systematically taking you down.
I’m no expert but I see this stuff in EVERY UFC event and undercard
TKD doesn’t translate cause the competitive structure has really become laughable. But those who practice it but aren’t Olympic athletes use elements of TKD very well.
idk if i can even agree with this. most of the champions are wrestlers or abuse the wrestling threat to land strikes without risk.
I wrestled at the 98 pound class,but was 76 lbs..I practiced most team mates that were 40 lbs more.come tournament time,nobody could touch me..
I think a young Marco Ruas could compete, he had stand up, ground game, cardio and was able to control pace (although he slowed it down, instead of speeding it up)
With today's training and dieting strength and conditioning and gyms with cages to work on and high-level training partners .
he most definitely would .
Loses most of his matched by getting subbed, I would have trained bjj more, you dont say?
Chael, the United States military does not currently use the M-16. Just letting you know.
Agree with state champ [ short for champion ] being harder and more rewarding. But follow up career is very difficult. Gimme some Lynch.
Just don’t let any1 get to close
it’s not that wrestling is not effective, it’s just not effective if you do not use it. everyone wants to stand now, thinking that will make them more popular as a fighter.
Wrestling is working everytime you stop aomeone from wrestling you down you are wrestling so I think it does work
Actually I think it's quite the opposite, everyone knows the basics of wrestling now so if you want to dominate people with it then you have to be super high level like Khabib or Usman
judo, is in mma.. we forgetting rounda rousey? she went to the olympics with her judo .. and then onto mma
Rondas judo was like when Royce showed off BJJ, it's good enough until everyone else catches up
@@mattreyes4803 it true, but in all honesty you can say that about anything.. boxing.. muay thai, karate, smabo ect..
For Judo practioners - Ronda Rousey and Karo Parisyan. I think it served them a quite well.
You know what I want to hear. A story about when you got stuck like a fish when you wrestled. Has Chael ever just been straight up stuck?
That is a great question to ask a former champion. I will definitely keep an eye out for Sage Brown. Speaking of techniques to adopt, keeping in mind that I've never fought anywhere near the professional level, I do believe that your footwork is extremely important in any combat sport that involves defending yourself from a standing position. The logic being that your feet can get you in and out of trouble. Some of the best that I have seen in the UFC was by a guy named Matthew Schnell. I addition to what you've said about Ju-Jitsu, I believe that Matt's footwork is optimal for MMA.
Wait..... Hold on.... Earlier on, didn't Chael say that wrestling was the most dominant martial art in MMA?
I totally agree, that MMA fighters have evolved tremendously, just don't think it applies to heavyweights as much, as to all the other divisions.
I agree again, I sound like a broken record but it is true, this is the evolution of the sport, a relatively young popular sport.
Hard to focus when i see the biggest arms west linn oregon
The answer is striking
OK this is off subject but I just need a place to get this out there. I just heard that Butterbean was offered Tyson. Now I don't know about you but I think that would be the most watched fight of all time and they could have Jake Paul vs Charlie Zellenoff on the same card. It would be a night of pure boxing magic. For sure let's push for Tyson vs Butterbean.
Sage brown is a bad ass I grew up with that man he’s one of my best friends now we train at separate gyms but fuck he’ll be to pro soon
Bro I see alot of these people in the comments don’t understand winning is winning and loosing is winning you learn what you need and ur fire in u should be furious ready to get back ur revenge non stop autopilot training
Demian Maia has spent the last 10 years in the UFC's top 5 with a '90s era one dimensional skillset.
Great to hear your voice uncle chael 👍🔥
Learn some jkd concepts, read Jack Dempsey's book on how to generate power in both hands, get better bjj etc
2 years from this video, where’s Sage Brown?
I'd imagine that Ronda would question your opinion on Judo Chael...
I'm like Jon Jones, I've got five phones, and I pay off all my bank loans!
Awesome uncle Chael
Hey Chael, I had a thought that you have probably answered already. Like you said if you change a rule in a sport you now have a new sport. So in mma western boxing techniques are used for hand strikes, but the fact that the gloves are smaller than boxing changes some of the techniques that are implemented and actually work with smaller gloves. Is it still boxing, or should it have it's own classification, own system separated from boxing? Should we even call it boxing if used in mma because it's not the same?
Kari Paresian brought judo to MMA. Go back and watch.
I think u need a good solid wrestling base and decent jujitsu skills and focus the most on striking. That way your comfortable anywhere the fight goes and you can take the fight wherever you need to get the win.
What else could he of done? Chael was already a double champ
Rules have changed as much as the skill set....goes hand in hand...if you could head butt today = if Judo small joint locks were allowed etc game changers
more Mooey Thigh (Bad Guy™)
Did anyone else get this weird one inch punch commercial...lmao that sh*t was not only ironic but funny as hell🤣🤣