Cub Cadet XT2 - Weak Reverse Quick Fix
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Sometimes these Hydrostatic Transmissions can develop air in them, even on these Residential units that (normally) don't require fluid replacement.
Shown in the video are Cub Cadet XT1 and XT2 riding lawnmowers that I am in the process of performing a full spring service on.
The XT2 has a Tuff Torq K46DM transmission, and my customer complained that the reverse seemed a bit weak. Sure enough, when I picked it up, it wouldn't even back into my trailer.
Today I'll be showing you how to "purge" the air out of these hydrostatic transmissions, and this can be done regardless of whether you've changed the fluid in them or not.
I've found on numerous occasions that doing this simple and quick purge significantly increases how the transmissions drive up an incline in reverse.
These residential units don't have External Oil Reservoirs, and as long as they're not leaking, generally don't need fluid added.
However, Tuff Torq does recommend you replace the hydrostatic transmission fluid on the K46DM in the 1st 50 Hours, and every 200 Hours under extreme operating conditions. This would include towing heavy loads, commercial use, etc...
Note: To drain and change the hydrostatic transmission fluid on these residential riding mowers, the transmission usually needs to be removed from the riding mower.
Even checking the fluid level on these can be difficult, due to the placement of the fluid fill cap on the hydrostatic transmission (shown in the video).
Tuff-Torq K46DM Maintenance Instructions: www.tufftorq.c...
Hydro-Gear Transmission Purging Video (on incline): • Hydro-Gear Pump & Whee...
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One thing I didn't mention in the video, and also something easy to check: Inspect the drive lever on the transmission (this is what the pedal rod hooks up to) as it could have a large build up of dried grass behind it, preventing it from pushing back far enough to engage the reverse drive!
However, sometimes these Hydrostatic Transmissions can develop air in them, even on these Residential units that (normally) don't require fluid replacement.
Shown in the video are Cub Cadet XT1 and XT2 riding lawnmowers that I am in the process of performing a full spring service on.
The XT2 has a Tuff Torq K46DM transmission, and my customer complained that the reverse seemed a bit weak. Sure enough, when I picked it up, it wouldn't even back into my trailer.
Today I'll be showing you how to "purge" the air out of these hydrostatic transmissions, and this can be done regardless of whether you've changed the fluid in them or not.
I've found on numerous occasions that doing this simple and quick purge significantly increases how the transmissions drive up an incline in reverse.
These residential units don't have External Oil Reservoirs, and as long as they're not leaking, generally don't need fluid added.
However, Tuff Torq does recommend you replace the hydrostatic transmission fluid on the K46DM in the 1st 50 Hours, and every 200 Hours under extreme operating conditions. This would include towing heavy loads, commercial use, etc...
Note: To drain and change the hydrostatic transmission fluid on these residential riding mowers, the transmission usually needs to be removed from the riding mower.
Even checking the fluid level on these can be difficult, due to the placement of the fluid fill cap on the hydrostatic transmission (shown in the video).
Tuff-Torq K46DM Maintenance Instructions: www.tufftorq.com/tuff-torq-k46-oil-maintenance/
Hydro-Gear Transmission Purging Video (on incline): th-cam.com/video/4C4P1Qt6_XY/w-d-xo.html
Takes just a few minutes (for me, at least) to blow out all the grass, dirt, etc that you mentioned above.
I have a curved tip on my air hose nozzle and this does it just fine. I was surprized as how quickly this can be done, because I am an EXPERT of turning a job that should take only 10 minutes or so to complete but usually turns out to take 1 & 1/2 hours to finish!
Kudos! Somebody who FINALLY knows what they are doing! Note to others, the first time I did this it had no effect at first. I went ahead and began mowing my 2 acres, and about halfway to though my mow, reverse began operating normally.
HA this worked after my local shop told me I would likely need a new transmission. They are thieves and ignorant. My unit only has 68 hours on it. Thank you Sir!
Very good video. Got to the point without endless babble.
Right!
I hate it when they blab and blab and flapjaw and seem to be trying to get you to watch the video longer instead of getting to the point.
Have to give you Kudos... I was on the verge of paying a shop to replace my drive belt, thinking my CC was in need of it due to slow reverse and poor hydro response. I skeptically went and jacked my mower up, ran it and ran the trans. All the while KNOWING your vid was BS. While in the air, the wheels would miss-spin. Confirming in my mind you were BS.
Once I got it back on the ground, it functioned like new. THANK YOU for the 300 price tag you saved me on some drunk red neck doing the same thing!
For anyone reading this:
Can't speak for all y'all's situation, but for me this "bleeding" technique worked FANTASTICALLY!
Question for you (probably a dumb one)… I just bought a new Cub Cadet LT42. The reverse is not working or if it happens to work, it is VERY slow. I’m assuming there could be air in the lines from when it was assembled? I’m hoping I didn’t get a lemon. 🥴
Try the purge, it seems to work well on these "non-servicable" transmissions. They're basically fluid pumps, so any air in the hydraulic fluid makes them not work so great. The biggest complaint I get is weak reverse, and this usually fixes it.
Thank you for not dragging it out because time is important to me the most
Thanks for watching Phillip!
3 months out of warranty and anyone who "money is not an object" to will buy a new one. Planned obsolescence should be illegal. I don't expect companies to make 50 year lawn mowers but this is predatory
I have seen a lot of push mowers that have lasted 30 and some 40 years (with proper maintenance ) but very rare to see a rider mower last that long even with proper maintenance mainly because of transmission failures.
Thank you it helped the issue , its still not great but i can back my mover into the garage, you saved me about $300
So straightforward and easily explained
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question: @Eliminator Performance I have that LT2-42 with the same engine BUT the transmission is sealed, no filter, no way to change the fluid...so will this work for that or am I screwed?
Completely fixed my problem! Thanks!!!
Thank you! Absolutely brilliant!
New here mate what does it mean when you can't re engage that pin that you pull out to put in free spin mode was going fine before hand pulled that pin now I can't re engage help
It might just be dirty and or seized, the rod you pull is connected to a small lever on the transmission. Just follow it back and you can likely press it forward by hand
You have no idea how badly i needed to see this video, my reverse has been horrible for at least a year and a half and searching the internet and Facebook pages have gotten me nowhere. I will be purging the air from my machine and see what happens. Thank you!!!!!
Good luck, this fixed both the XT2 and my father purged the XT1 that I showed and they both had an increase in reverse power.
Yep i did the XT1 and it would not climb a raised section of our lawn in reverse until i did what Jake showed and climbs up like nothing now.
@@EliminatorPerformance i just got done doing this to my mower and it did help but i have a 1¾" lip at the top of my ramp going into my shed that it still struggles with. So it's not back to the way it once was unfortunately. My transmission is non serviceable so that's also fun lol. Thank you for the tip it was much appreciated!
@@longislandbiker7 I would try it again: parking brake off, trans lever pulled out, forward and reverse 5 to 10 seconds each 5 times engine at full rpm.
@@waynestefinashen239 forgot to update, disregard my last comment. Apparently my tires weren't 100% inflated. Once i inflated them to the proper psi it worked! I do plan on replacing the fluid in my transmission at the end of the season... it doesn't sit right with me that my transmission is non serviceable.
OMG THANK YOU! I will never buy a cub cadet again, my first brand new mower in 30 years. So many issues @ 48 hours!!! This fixed my slow reverse!!! I am so grateful!!!
My battery died after the first year. Never in my life have I had a battery die over winter. Any suggestions so this doesn't happen every year????
Buy a trickle charger and hook it to your battery every other cut and once a month in the non-cutting months. Should extend your battery life exponentially (3 or 4 years easy for a *quality* (non-Walmart) battery.
I’m going to try this and report back.
Thanks did what you said with video and demonstration. Worked like a charm. Thanks
Perfect! This is exactly what I needed. Thanks.
Thank you so much, I had my cub cadet serviced and been having issues mowing on my step incline since I got it back, 5:26 did this and works like new, thank you so much
What type and weight oil do these things use?
Mine is a 2015 and has never had the oil changed nor is there any mention of this in my manual .....go figure!
Good to know thanks for the tip brother Jake 👍
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for this video! My Cube Cadet’s reverse went to snail slow today and this video was the solution.
Also I’ve subscribed to your channel as I’m new to having a riding lawnmower this fall and I’m sure I’ll need help in the future.
Just stopped by to support your channel. You have saved my lawn tractor more then once.
Thanks 808!
Super nice tip Jake. Thanks for sharing
Thanks HM!
Does this only work on the Cub Cadet ?
No this works on any hydrostatic transmission, and I did this on a zero turn X Mark, although that was a little different because of the filter and external oil reservoir, but the steps are basically the same. Put trans into bypass mode and then run it forwards and back to get the air out of the transmission; th-cam.com/video/THp9D51Tu1Y/w-d-xo.html
@Eliminator Performance thanks for the info.
👍👍👍 Once again another 1st class instructional video. Thank you.
Thanks Pete!
Does that work for the mower if it is slow in forward AND reverse?
Never seen it done before, learn something new every day. Cheers
Thanks for watching!
Thanks. My Xt-1 is doing the same thing (won't move in reverse). I'm going to try this method.
Oh very nice and good info. Does this work for all hydro's like also on JD series??? Thanks for the video 👍🏼
Yes it will purge the air out of any hydrostatic transmission
Hilarious considering I have the big Kohler and never had a problem.
Amazing video again helping owner's to DIY it
Glad to help!
Great video. I have a Craftsman T240 2 years old and the backup problem I was having was grass buildup behind the pedal. Using a hooked wire and a compressor with a blow gun attachment I clened out around the pedal without having to take anything apart. I then used the quick fix noted here and everything worked like new.
Great information on a simple fix done on a nice short video. Well done amazing how many hydrostatic drive mowers are coming in that have this problem and it is so easy to fix.
Yes very quick fix, thanks for watching!
Thank you that worked perfectly
Can't believe it was that easy
Just this week my XT1 started off slow kind of fish biting as I started, I stopped and put it in reverse it did the same thing in reverse. Got off to make sure I had my neutral switch in the back of my mower pushed in all the way and it was. Got back on Fired her up and engaged my mower blades and she ran fine. Cut my yard with o problem, Concerned as to what my problem I may be beginning to have?
Any suggestions
Thank you 🙏🏾 so much man. Liked and subscribed 👍🏾🫵🏾👌🏾💯‼️👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I was told you should NEVER have to do this. And you should never do this. it sealed for this reason if your having issues it usually is not this. Mine did the same thing and after a painfull belt change it worked great.
So are we doing these steps with the lever still pulled
Yes, that way the transmission is in "bypass mode" so essentially you're just running the fluid through it, but not actually moving. It helps to purge the transmission oil from air, by allowing all the air bubbles to come to the surface.
Attempted process, still weak/no reverse. It the hydrostatic toast?
Next I would check the drive lever on the transmission (what the pedal rod hooks up to) as it could have a large build up of grass behind it, preventing it from pushing back far enough to engage the reverse drive!
This worked for me last year. Tried again this year and now it whines when I’m driving? Any suggestions?
Awesome another great video❤
Thanks for watching!
How's she goin'? Thanks for posting this. This sure is a good tip and a heart attack preventer eh!! LOL Take care!!!
Thanks for watching Grampy!
The simple things usually elude us. Good fix. Thanks Jake!
Thanks Ken!
I have a john deere x320 with a tuff tongue transmission. My problem is weak forward after warm up.
Do you think this will help?
Thank you! Was frustrated by this for so long. Parked it facing downhill on yard. Worked like a charm! 😊
Tried this and reverse barley improved but the transmission now makes a whining noise in forward.
This was very helpful!
Thank you!
Good video, thanks for sharing the info!
Thanks for watching!
grass dirt build up by pedal stops often is problem for weak reverse
Yes good point, this one was clear. I use compressed air to blow out all the debris on the mowers I work on
I have a cub cadet 1050 with the 22 hp kawasaki I love it
One of the best DYI videos I've seen. Well-done and concise. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
I have an XT2 with the Cub cadet fuel injector motor smokes like crazy when I 1st started up any ideas?
White or black smoke? If it's white it could be valve guides or valve stem seals, if it's black it could be an over fueling issue
Thank you it fixed my issue
Warranty should start from time it’s bought not when it was made
Are you sure you’re correct ????
Yes most likely, but my customer didn't tell me exactly when he purchased it so I'm just going off the manufacturer date. Basically saying it's experiencing issues and it's around 3yrs after it was built which I'm sure is no coincidence.
Nice job Jake 👍
Thanks John!
This did not fix the problem now what
My Stanley quit going forward and backward, your remedy worked like a champ, Amazing!! Thank you!
Thanks for watching, glad it helped!
Have a 2021 XT1 42” that stopped going forward or reverse. As I was driving it felt like something just let go. Have checked belt, pulleys, and bypass rod but found nothing. Think I’m still under warranty but wanted to know your thoughts so maybe I could avoid having to take it in for service. Thanks.
Great Video Thanks
Worked for me. Thank you!
Jake, the problems with your sound on a windy day are easily eliminated. Either purchase foam covers for all your mics or you can even make your own with something like prefilter foam and elastic bands.
This same fix also works if you ever develop “s” mic overloads (known as sybilance), often caused by a mic placed too close to the speaker but also possible if the mic has the high end EQ tuned incorrectly.
I have a Sony camcorder with a professional mic that has a wind sock, but this was a rapid fire video I filmed with my phone. Quickly shot as I didn't have time to format an SD card and set it up. Too many mowers to fix lol
Great tip!! I've had issues w/reverse for a couple years now on my Cub Cadet LT1042 (older mower I know) but it has the hydrostatic non-serviceable transmission. Will this air purge process be safe on my mower as well? I've wanted to service the tranny as I'm pretty sure the gear oil is worn out after all these years, but she still runs, just not like it used too.
Yes it's perfectly safe for all hydrostatic transmissions, it basically just allows the hydraulic fluid to flow around it as it's in "bypass mode" and is recommended when the drive starts to lack. It's not a guaranteed fix, but it definitely helps most models that come in with weak reverse.
@@EliminatorPerformance thanks. I'll be sure and give it a try this weekend.
I thought that we had a transmission problem on our mower, wouldn't go forward very good, it went backwards fine. It turned out that the mount for the rear axle had broken loose and was letting the belt have to much slop. So i reinforced the axle mount back on to the frame with a 3" piece of angle iron. I must have mounted the axle to far back because now the mower go's forward ok but reverse is weak.
What a great tip! Thanks for sharing this.
Thanks for watching!
If you change the oil at the 50hr mark & not 200hr, it helps the tanny (can i use that word anymore) last longer.
I asked my dealer to change the fluid- they didnt as it is a "lifelong oil", so will be doing mine this week
Now that was awesome man! Thanks for that info brother! Keep up the awesome work!
Thanks for watching!
You had to burp the transmission 😂 she had Air in her tummy 😂
Lololo that’s really what it’s about to
@@philliphall5198 yes it is 👍
Just a bit by the looks of it, thanks for watching Robert!
@@EliminatorPerformance your welcome young man 👍😎 (Jake)👍
All lawnmower take 30 weigh oil I been working on small engine for 54 years now longer than this guy read your book
I've only been working on them for 10 years, but these Kawasaki's take 10w40
www.cubcadet.ca/en/all-parts/kawasaki-part-number-99969-6296.-k-tech-sae-10w-40-oil/KM-99969-6296.html
Hey, Jake! Thanks for a great tip. I expect this condition is more common than most would imagine.
Just weird that the last 3 Cub Cadets that came in had the same issue some with hardly any hours and others with many hours on the meter.
@@waynestefinashen239
Sounds like more than a coincidence. Are there gaskets involved or mating surfaces that aren’t decked or flat enough from the factory, or maybe fasteners not torqued correctly?
@@Rein_Ciarfella No all is good just happens that they rarely go in reverse or never paid a lot of attention to it. Jakes repair has worked on all of them so far.
Yes definitely happens to quite a few, the old man did the purge on that XT1 and it reversed much better afterwards.
My local Cub Cadet dealer said to only use the Cub Cadet fluid in my HDS-2165 which costs $18 quart. I was determined to find an alternative and after searching the web for months I found a gentleman that worked at the Cub Cadet factory in 1995 when mine was built and his job was to fill the transaxles with oil. He said the fluid came from a barrel labeled Castrol 20w50. I’ve been using it in my mower for over 25 years and have never had a problem.
Rear axles aren't assembled at a Cub factory. They are Tuff Torques assembled and filled at their factory.
I guess I misspoke. He said the factory and I assumed it was the Cub Cadet factory. I didn’t know the axles were built elsewhere. Thanks for correcting me though.
Will this work on a John Deere? I have an LT150.
If it has a hydrostatic transmission (hydraulic fluid pump) then yes it'll work!
@@EliminatorPerformance Thank you for the reply. I'm going to try this today. My rider has been getting a little slow in the get go. The drive belt is tight, so hoping this will help.
Excellent! Great info, thank you. Subbed
Thanks for the information!! Worked perfectly on my XT2. Appreciate you sharing it!!
Excellent Video
My mtd with hydro gear takes 20w50 oil
Yes most call for synthetic too
Thanks Jake
Thanks for watching!
How do you do this with a zeroturn hydro trany.thanks
You need to put each transmission into bypass mode by opening the relief valves. Watch the video I linked in the pinned comment
Worked "perfectly" thanks for the video
Thanks for watching!
Does this apply to j Deere
Yes any riding mower with a hydrostatic transmission
@@EliminatorPerformance thanks so much
Great save!
Thanks!
That's a great tip
Thanks Jamie!
I tried it but it pops out the pin in back
Use a pair of vice grips/locking pliers to hold it
I have a xt2 cub cadet LT46 and when the reverse switch is pushed to mow in reverse, the deck will mow for a minute then it cuts off and I have to press the switch again. Any ideas what might be wrong?
after started, turn your key into the yellow position, push the orange triangle and leave the key in the yellow position while mowing.
Thanks for the quickie Jake! Ha ha ha
Thanks for watching Lou!
Another great video, thanks!
Thanks Tommy!
My 2015 XT1 has the K46
I wonder why your XT1 had a hydro-gear?
I don't think it's the same mower
How do I straighten the front wheels on my Cub Cadet XT1? Thank you.
Check the tie rods, they might need adjustment.
@@EliminatorPerformance How is that done? Thank you.
@@Mikael.formermilitary try watching this it may help: th-cam.com/video/mpx0prQJ3D0/w-d-xo.html
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