When amateurs do the animation

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.พ. 2023
  • So i originally had the video named Dreamcast like facial animation because i remember seeing a tech demo that i thought was for the Dreamcast, though it also could've been for another console at the time.
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  • @chiefsean16
    @chiefsean16 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +367

    Looks like the kind of animation you'd see in the behind the scenes bonus content on the Shrek 1 DVD.

    • @janelantestaverde2018
      @janelantestaverde2018 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      That is very specific and at the same time very accurate

  • @regalcartoon3952
    @regalcartoon3952 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +295

    “My face is tired”.

  • @tlotpwist3417
    @tlotpwist3417 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +143

    Crazy how ME1 puts this to shame.

    • @rogerlynch5279
      @rogerlynch5279 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well, ME 2 is it´s own pair of boots.
      You have to understand that BIOWARE did a real CLEAN SWEEP after the worldwide financial disaster ME 1 had been for the company.
      BIOWARE put a totally new crew to work bringing out the Second part with the order to reinvent MASS EFFECT.
      Brian Mitsoda the original lead writer and designer had been fired because ME 1 had been NO SHOOTER but a game with Shooting Elements in it. Even the Story suffered under the changes. So was CERBERUS turned from a NEO NAZI GROUP into a more harmless Nationalistic TRUMP - like organisation with the slogan HUMANS FIRST. NO one wanted that, right

    • @dudedude315
      @dudedude315 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      ME1 is arguably the best one in the franchise. What are you talking about?

    • @thefuturefalcon762
      @thefuturefalcon762 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@dudedude315 to be fair I have seen worse animations than this in the original ME games

    • @dudedude315
      @dudedude315 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thefuturefalcon762 I guess so

    • @gabematthews4532
      @gabematthews4532 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ME2 is best it combines both good qualities of mass effect 1 and 3 together
      Combat, Graphics, and more Romance options from ME3
      And
      Loyalty missions, open worlds, and encounters from ME1

  • @playmudsand
    @playmudsand 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +204

    Wow, the VI looks so advanced in Andromeda.

  • @Tiger74147
    @Tiger74147 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +178

    I played ME3 for the first time recently, and MANY of the animations look janky as hell, way more than I remember (although maybe things were less advanced when ME2 came out so that distorts my impression). Still, nothing quite this bad.

    • @Terasbulba96
      @Terasbulba96  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Oh definitely.

    • @Vakaria-plays
      @Vakaria-plays 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      For some reason despite other technology being available, Bioware used the old computer animation of click, drag, and move, meaning they had to draw, move, twist and turn every little moment their characters in the game had to make when ever they spoke or moved and that always looks a bit clanky.

    • @tinabelcher4074
      @tinabelcher4074 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Dude just started mass effect 3 today and I was hit in the face with with how weird Shepard's face animations were

    • @misterturkturkle
      @misterturkturkle 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      thats why you play me1 and pretend its the only game in the series. 2 3 and andromeda are trash unilatirally. but 1 can be excused as its decent gameplay wise, even if its 16 years old

    • @Vakaria-plays
      @Vakaria-plays 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol go home troll no ones buying that statement.@@misterturkturkle

  • @benjaminbierley2074
    @benjaminbierley2074 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    This is what happens when you FORCE your dev team to switch to a different engine all because it's the "in-house company engine" you're trying to make a thing, despite said engine not being as fleshed out or developed as the one they had been using...and if reports are to believed it wasn't even suitable for the type of game ME:A was.
    Granted, the game had other issues, even outside animations, whoever the voice director was was almost certainly asleep or not doing their bloody job to get some of the takes we end up hearing in the game.

    • @GrandSupremeDaddyo
      @GrandSupremeDaddyo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Are you confusing it with Anthem or did they make the same mistake twice?: putting RPG mechanics into an engine meant for FPS.

    • @HowlingWolf518
      @HowlingWolf518 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@GrandSupremeDaddyo EA forced Frostbite on basically everybody - the Star Wars games use it too.

    • @nora-bee
      @nora-bee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey don't be mean to the voice director, their face was just really tired ok

    • @Samuel034
      @Samuel034 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Andromeda was an absolute JOY in combat, but the rest was just below the maximum curvature of the uncanny valley where it was just off enough that you questioned what you were seeing. That or going full skibiddy toilet doing its best Ohio impression.

  • @hihihi1q23
    @hihihi1q23 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    It's because this game was basically cobbled together in a year and a half using an engine that's made for first person shooters and sports games. The animations here are all procedural rather than hand-animated or mocapped.

    • @beeziebubs2756
      @beeziebubs2756 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      A lot of people like to talk about the issues with the game but never really acknowledge how all of those are symptoms of the true villain here: major crunch time. Andromeda spent so much time in development Hell that they only had 18 months to make a game when actual development for AAA titles take 3-7 years.

    • @cloud3530
      @cloud3530 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Frostbite was also used for Dragon Age Inquisiton and the facial animations weren't that bad compared to Andromeda, just if you employ beginners you get a beginner result

  • @christianfranck1818
    @christianfranck1818 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Bioware really fumbled with andromeda

    • @Terasbulba96
      @Terasbulba96  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Sadly.

    • @christianfranck1818
      @christianfranck1818 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Terasbulba96 it honestly had potential then they just

    • @Terasbulba96
      @Terasbulba96  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@christianfranck1818 They screwed it up.

    • @christianfranck1818
      @christianfranck1818 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Terasbulba96 very

    • @spectralassassin6030
      @spectralassassin6030 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fumbled is being generous. They took a shit in the doghouse and lit the whole thing on fire.

  • @justanotherarmchairgeneral4240
    @justanotherarmchairgeneral4240 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The facial animation itself is bad. But what really pushes it into ungodly horrible uncanny valley territory is the rest of their body being stiff as a board on top of that.

    • @Tall-Hobbit
      @Tall-Hobbit 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean EA had almost always bad facial animations this is not an isolated case in the slightest. Even titles like Jedi survivor or the previous fallen order have incredibly weird facial animations that fall into uncanny valley territory. Another example is funnily enough Is Star Wars Battlefront 2 (the new one) which has some of the weirdest renditions of known aliens that i’ve seen because their face looks again super weird. It has to be some kind of EA thing since it is present in almost everything EA touches.

  • @ashiagefa646
    @ashiagefa646 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    it's a great game for someone who's never played mass effect before, not knowing how epic the game was

    • @elpizo1789
      @elpizo1789 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Or you take it as a smaller budget Gaiden game. Like, AA/A instead of AAA. You can get it at those prices these days, too! That's how I did it and I had plenty of fun. I may go back to it once I finish the Legendary Edition .

    • @GremlinsRage
      @GremlinsRage 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      As someone who played Andromeda first, I can confirm. Looking back at it after playing ME1-3, Andromeda is just not good.

    • @nikolai_1079
      @nikolai_1079 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@GremlinsRage Same here. I went from "Okay that was a pretty cool story" to "Mother of God, the reapers are coming, why won't any of you listen to me."

  • @flocoflame2236
    @flocoflame2236 ปีที่แล้ว +194

    Welp, that settles it, there’s nooooooo f*cking way I’m getting andromeda now

    • @Terasbulba96
      @Terasbulba96  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      XD

    • @friendlyreaper9012
      @friendlyreaper9012 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

      Trust me, the facial animations are the least of the games problems.

    • @zacktaylor8178
      @zacktaylor8178 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@friendlyreaper9012 they patched it a lot, give it another try!

    • @seancasity7538
      @seancasity7538 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      I tried to give it a chance I just couldn't do it I beat the game and felt no joy from it all I could do was laugh at the terrible animations and the ridiculous plot.

    • @agama5538
      @agama5538 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I hated the lack of expression most.
      If I had to sum up the hates:
      1: Facial expressions or lack there of.
      2: Tedious story campaign that's too short.
      3: The endless fetch quest filler content.
      4: The same 'plot', i.e. a strange race ensalving others and turning them into their own kind and army. It was fantastic for the Trilogy, but we needed something new for a new story arc.
      5: The 'I was bored' backstory for every NPC you talk to.

  • @chromenut7759
    @chromenut7759 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +200

    There are some people who are saying that ME: Andromeda gets too much hate. I think it doesn't get enough. Nevermind the facial animations, the fact that everybody looks so ugly is enough for me to hate this game.

    • @fadedjem
      @fadedjem 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      Why the asari all suddenly have one face shape that looks nothing like any asari previously seen mystifies me.

    • @anneshepard
      @anneshepard 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@fadedjemtbh what they did to the turians is even worse imo. Their design was awesome, in MEA they look like shit

    • @HA-ot6uf
      @HA-ot6uf 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Wait a few years and people will start calling anything underrated.

    • @ICCUWANSIUT
      @ICCUWANSIUT 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@@anneshepardkrogan lipstick lips

    • @eyzmin
      @eyzmin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fadedjem im not kidding they switched the models from being based on white women to those based on black women in an effort to "combat eurocenticism"

  • @DoctorSargeMD
    @DoctorSargeMD 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It makes it look much worse simply because the head doesn't move at all.

  • @jordanduncan7732
    @jordanduncan7732 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This looks like Gaither's Pond in space; without the soul!

  • @adrianrossellruiz8904
    @adrianrossellruiz8904 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Actually this is an improvement. now the aliens looks more alien and less human.

  • @Aussieduderivs1
    @Aussieduderivs1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Every asari in the game besides peebee have the same face as well

  • @DeathScepter
    @DeathScepter ปีที่แล้ว +24

    dreamcast facial animation is only good for the dreamcast

  • @SirCaco
    @SirCaco 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That's that Sonic Adventure 1 right there

    • @Terasbulba96
      @Terasbulba96  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      At least that had charm haha

    • @Archdornan9001
      @Archdornan9001 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tbh I'd rather put up with Big the Katt than Andromeda

  • @metazare
    @metazare 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That's an insult to dreamcast. It gave us games like RE Code Veronica. They knew how to do facial animations back then.

  • @tooru-kun4178
    @tooru-kun4178 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    really the good thing about Andromeda is the possibility to romance Vetra damn

  • @GrandSupremeDaddyo
    @GrandSupremeDaddyo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This looks like behind the scenes footage talking about how faces & heads are animated independently.

  • @jacknapier8201
    @jacknapier8201 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Look, I'll always make fun of the "point at you, then me, then you" that got used too much and the "conversation over, rotate 90° and walk off screen" but that's nothing compared to this

  • @xxxCrackerJack501xxx
    @xxxCrackerJack501xxx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This piece of shit makes Mass Effect 3 look like a masterpiece

  • @RayoSombrio78
    @RayoSombrio78 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Never wanted to play Andromeda...

    • @Terasbulba96
      @Terasbulba96  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And that's fine.

  • @aarongoozman
    @aarongoozman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's not amateur animation. That's just letting the computer generate lip sync automatically. There was NO EFFORT lol

  • @earthbit.
    @earthbit. 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What are you talking about? She’s got plenty of facial animation. Sure, it’s all concentrated in the lower half, but it all balances out, right?

  • @Dragon81205
    @Dragon81205 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And this upcoming triples AAA company is why you shouldn't outsource facial capture, because this is the result.

  • @arisutaku6137
    @arisutaku6137 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Even KOTOR 1 had better facial animations and that's a game where characters don't show a mix of emotions very often

    • @shanelizotte6318
      @shanelizotte6318 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree, although Kotor 1 is still one of the greatest games ever made despite that.

  • @joecool720
    @joecool720 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    She reminds me of that pirate painting with a moving mouth from the Spongebob intro.

  • @semiroundpit4
    @semiroundpit4 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She looks like she having a allergic reaction and her face is swelling up😂

  • @pulsarpl
    @pulsarpl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks like every Starfield character.

  • @Pipkiablo
    @Pipkiablo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The janky animations and glitches in this game is part of why I love it so much. My favorite moment was during Liam's loyalty mission when the second the cutscene ended and the game started, Liam blasted off like Poochie returning to his homeplanet and I have never laughed at a game bug harder than I did that day because that was the last thing I ever expected to see.
    I'm also genuinely sad they patched the janky running animation because it looked so bad that I actually felt pure joy when I saw it.

  • @gabematthews4532
    @gabematthews4532 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And here I thought Miranda was a bad character because she mostly doesn’t change her facial expression

  • @gotfret39
    @gotfret39 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    wow ,Asari in ME:Andromeda looks really bad

  • @Ryan-op7yd
    @Ryan-op7yd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This came out in 2017, surely it can't STILL look like that now?

    • @orionrazilov5994
      @orionrazilov5994 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It doesn’t, the animation has improved a little bit but it could still use a lot of work

  • @SharkIey
    @SharkIey หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is that emotion

  • @rozenzoon
    @rozenzoon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Strong and weaker points to each game, but from my experience, Mass Effect 3 has lifelier facial expressions than I have the feeling ME:A had. I did enjoy all games ibcluding ME:A a lot!

  • @GG-mz7ob
    @GG-mz7ob 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Don't hate Andromeda as much other do but will say this lot will agree Andromeda made mass effect 3 look better

    • @Terasbulba96
      @Terasbulba96  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Mass Effect 3 is WAAAAAY better, it just the ending that sucks balls.

    • @GG-mz7ob
      @GG-mz7ob 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Terasbulba96 that my point trying make back when Mass 3 came out it was hated on caused of the ending sucks remember their were lot angry gamers trashing me3 for it ending but when Andromeda happened seem like lot gamers forgave the bad ending trash on Andromeda instead

    • @agama5538
      @agama5538 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bruh, I don't get the hate about ME3 at all. It's your opinion, but I thought it was great. Sure some things could have been better but I enjoyed every second of what we got. Same for Dragon Age 2.

    • @agama5538
      @agama5538 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​​@@GG-mz7obMy bother wasn't the ending itself, the three choices were a hard thing to make like the easy choice of who to leave on Vermire. But I wanted closure. There needed to be a few scenes with the crew and the love interest with Shep. As I always Destroy, I wanted a scene with Shep being visited in the Hospital or some shit further on with a cybernetic arm or at least some battle scars. Maybe see those little blue children.

    • @GG-mz7ob
      @GG-mz7ob 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@agama5538 I don't hate me3 it just what I seen on TH-cam and my friends played me3 so don't get it either and I loved dragon age 2 my favorite da game but every time said to someone they think I weird call game trash worse dragon age game ever

  • @annoyingPoe15
    @annoyingPoe15 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I bought mine from a dollar store literally lol its fun but for nearly 10 years of supposedly work they ea fucking lazy work still better then saints row 2022

  • @Ph34rth3hhum4n4t0r
    @Ph34rth3hhum4n4t0r 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I won't stand for this slander. Sonic Adventure had better facial animation than this.

  • @JD_the_fox
    @JD_the_fox 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Maybe byuing andromeda wqs a mistake, even if it was on sale

    • @Spillow-C
      @Spillow-C 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      even pirating it is a mistake

  • @tonycmac
    @tonycmac 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    More like when amateurs make a game.

  • @gemarete9985
    @gemarete9985 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I absolutely DO NOT want my ME memory tarnished, so Andromeda doesnt exist for me .
    Will never play it

    • @Terasbulba96
      @Terasbulba96  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nothing wrong with that.

    • @Andriy_Sklyar
      @Andriy_Sklyar 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good call, trust me, i been in this shit

    • @No._6
      @No._6 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Up to the end of the first planet (basically tutorial mission), it has more good than bad. If u could handle stopping there, then I would recommend trying the game. Basically its the Eden Prime mission.

    • @Andriy_Sklyar
      @Andriy_Sklyar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@No._6 Don't be an animal, the game sucks, don't waste this person's time luring them into the depths of disappointment.

    • @No._6
      @No._6 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Andriy_Sklyar It's only "the depths" if they play past the beginning. The beginning was alright with that stormy planet. It was all downhill with the discovery of the nexus/citadel and everything else after. A demo probably has it all

  • @mebruh5684
    @mebruh5684 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lmaooooo

  • @Linkolnverse
    @Linkolnverse 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh god I see it now.
    I never noticed it.
    What the fuck is wrong with them?

  • @henryheavy8044
    @henryheavy8044 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Blame frostbite

  • @fern1146
    @fern1146 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This isn't Dreamcast animation
    Look at Claire in Code Veronica, way better and more expressive 3D model

  • @elegyofthering6363
    @elegyofthering6363 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let's see, although the story is not AS bad as they say, the animations even today and with community patches that fix many things, it is still shit, as it was 2010-2015 was the revolution of tracking face in games and they made Horrendous things, it's like the cold war, thanks to those sacrifices today we don't have to suffer this anymore...
    or not? lmao

  • @liamw3153
    @liamw3153 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ngl I loved Andromeda, they tried something different and it worked in some ways and didn’t in other ways. I still had fun plus the establishment of colonies mechanic was very cool

    • @Eshtian
      @Eshtian 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      What colony mechanic?
      I'd hardly call the cyro pods a colony and the bases aren't a mechanic.

  • @loganmiles7836
    @loganmiles7836 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I dont get it.

    • @F476uy1337
      @F476uy1337 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      trash facial animation

    • @louth2882
      @louth2882 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      You might be too young to have never played on a Dreamcast then sadly my friend

  • @datemasamune2904
    @datemasamune2904 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I still don't get the hate. That alien's facial movements were incredible.
    As well as the Salarian's.

  • @2dmetroidfandom579
    @2dmetroidfandom579 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well Mass effect : Andromeda kind of dose get too much hate see what people are complaining Has nothing to do with the problems of the game. What I mainly keep hearing of their complaints It's about it's open worldsetting When The fact is. that had nothing to do with the problem About mass effect Andromeda.. when reality.
    It wasn't too long ago when they were complaining that mass effect 2 and 3 was too lenier.
    As far as my concern, in my opinion, mass effect, : Andromeda is perfect. Yes, it's got its flaws, I'll completely agree. The facial animations bad, the dialogue is bad. The script Writing is bad and the acting is bad.
    Because it sounds like somebody's reading it off the script paper. And not even trying
    It doesn't give you enough time to see the character development or emotions. And so we become less attached to it. Because there's no sadness like when rider dad Passed away..
    Saving his son.
    But despiding those flaws mass effect, : Andromeda is perfect. A new fresh start And new intake and a new, fresh atmosphere for mass effect series. I think it did a good job there.
    People wanna compare the legendary edition. That came out in 2021 to this game that came out 2017.
    When mass effect, the : Andromeda had the very same issues. The Original mass effect, 1 and 2 , and 3.
    They had a lot of graphic problems and animation problems.
    Mass effect, : Andromeda
    Is just a game that should have went through a little bit more development before they released it.
    I'm mean Miranda, is a good And one of the example of this.
    Facial animation problems.
    To me, mass effect : Andromeda open world style Atmosphere And new intake and new story and and a new fresh start in mass effect. is perfect and its exactly what I was looking for.
    See, there's a lot of other problems like there was a lot of potential like new species Or new planets or more exploration More parts of the galaxy.
    That we didn't get to see much of.
    That was the same Exact problems in The original mass effect. 1 and 2 and 3.
    But as far as it comes, With my own experience with this game. this game is nearly perfect with flaws.
    It's got high potential, it just wasn't been given the chance to show it.
    Probably because it was too rushed..
    If mass effect 5 came out, I hope it has a very similar Open world setting to mass effect,: Andromeda And very similar mechanics. To mass effect : Andromeda Cause I'll never forget those jet Boost. That was fun. Get to walk on, and stand on mountains and Jumping to mountain To mountain jumping from tall cliff down to a The bottom of it without dying that was fun.
    Go places that normally shepherd in mass effect 1 2 3 could never go. Weather because of the obstacles That was in the way or edges. Or just Simply because The game Wouldn't let you . Or Simply the boundaries won't let you..
    There's a lot of good that I can't fit in one comment about mass effect Andromeda

    • @pablochavez681
      @pablochavez681 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I aint reading allat

    • @2dmetroidfandom579
      @2dmetroidfandom579 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @pablochavez681 😐 If you're that interested Take your time once you read all of it. Then you'll understand my point of view of mass effect : Andromeda,😅
      Remember It was released on 2017 , not 2021 When the remastered trilogy came out.They're completely different than the once in 2017. If I'm not correct with the sources I have found With Different animators and graphic designers? And scripped artist. Different engines being used in the game That failed : Andromeda. but Anyway that's up to you.
      Read it or not
      Nobody's gonna force you to read all that. It's up to your choice. 😏

  • @gutz4garterz735
    @gutz4garterz735 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    almost as bad as the last of us

    • @hihihi1q23
      @hihihi1q23 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Last of Us has arguably the best character animations ever seen in a video game lmao

  • @Mr-Moron
    @Mr-Moron 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    AI moment

  • @paIhaxota
    @paIhaxota 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gonna crash AAH