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2008 Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid vs. 2008 Mercedes-Benz GL320 CDI
No one's talking about it, but the 2008 Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid and 2008 Mercedes-Benz GL320 CDI are the two most fuel-efficient full-size SUVs on the market. We guess that makes Paris Hilton, proud owner of a 2008 GMC Yukon Hybrid, the hybrid Tahoe's twin, a forward-thinking early adopter at the vanguard of the green car movement.
Truthfully, calling either of these SUVs "green" might border on an insult to the color, not to mention the movement. These are still large, comfortable vehicles with more torque than the average commuter needs and more seats than most families will use, perfect for vacations but decadent in daily life.
But these vehicles are more reasonable when you consider that the four-wheel-drive 2008 Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid earns an EPA rating of 20 mpg city/20 mpg highway, and the all-wheel-drive 2008 Mercedes-Benz GL320 CDI rates 18 mpg city/24 mpg highway. This works out to a combined rating of 20 mpg for both SUVs - a big achievement for a full-size sport-utility.
When it comes to large sport-utilities, think of this as a practicality test for hybrid and diesel. In other words, if you want to drive something big without feeling bad, this is what it's all about.
I take the Tahoe!!! It's nicer and bigger.
R. Hage Mercedes is shit. It doesn’t have the capability like the Chevy trucks. Especially the Nissan Armada have capability doing work .
nismo armada this video is about a chevy and a tahoe. Don’t bring up an armada. Secondly the mercedes might not be the most reliable but it’s a hell of a lot nicer then a tahoe
@@user-oq3lv6lv7x yes but how many still on the road today the answer would be Zero.. they don't pass smog testing any more.. look on auto trader THE oldest available is a 2010 model
while still plenty of tahoe hybrids on the road
ALSO the resale value of the Benz is like 2-3k for a 2008 model
while a tahoe will get about 14 to 18k (northern US market location 4x4 model as they command a premium ) RWD/4x4 will get about 10 to 12k for a 2008
south US
with under 100k miles
good job on the video i liked how they traded at the end it really shows how both SUVs have advantages and disadvantages.
Great video.Pretty good comparison.
i really apreciate the script on this video, both of these actors deserve Oscar award nominations.
Anyway, i am so confused as to how Edmunds could not come up with an official winner. isnt it obvious?! Considering the Benz is more fuel efficient, more luxurious, better performance, similar price w/ way more options, and also more capable of towing, it seems like the winner to me. Also what would you rather spend 55k on? A chevy or a Benz? GL320 is better than Tahoe. fact, not opinion
I have a 2008 Tahoe hybrid and the navigation system sucks I know it is 10 years old now but it’s crazy how obsolete it is. I haven’t had any problems with my Tahoe as far as the hybrid system “Knock on wood” but I did have a problem with the 6.0 engine collapsing a lifter and costing me $3800 to have it fixed I could have opted to just do one side of the engineFor $2500 but I told them to do both side and plugs and wires while they were in there. Other than that my wife’s been very happy With it and I have been after her to get rid of it for a a while now because it has 160,000 miles on it! I know those batteries for the hybrid system and the transmission are very expensive it’s like a ticking time bomb to me
The 6.0 has issues with the displacement on demand system's pushrod failing. It'll be a good comparison because I have a 2008 gl320cdi with 160,000 miles on it and no big problems yet. Biggest I had is the ac compressor solenoid. I fear my electrical system though because Mercedes makes it nearly impossible to replace modules from the salvage market. Also I hate my battery location under the passenger seat. What were they thinking?
I'm no engineer, but I used to be a mechanic so I know a little about how things work. I am not 100% sure, but I think the reason they don't make diesel hybrids is diesel engines achieve designed efficiency at, or near, their ideal operating temp. It takes time for them to warm up, and while cool they pollute more. Switching one on and off is actually less efficient. This is why at truck stops, drivers will leave big trucks running while they stop for lunch (I don't know if you've noticed this).
I know a prius driver had over 150,000 miles on his and still doing 45+ mpg on fully functional hybrid system. The mate had the car for over 4 years.
true that. Jetta tdi's are advertised as 45mpg highway but I know people with manual trans cars that get over 50 on highway
No joke. My 81 240D had 312K miles on it when I sold it. Sure, it was only running on 3 cylinders and looked like something out of a nightmare, but jeez, The best of the Mercedes and Diesel worlds in one package!
FYI- The Imperial gallon is .83% of the American gallon. So the 74 MPG can be compared to roughly 59mpg. However, these engines do not meet EPA emmisions standards.
Just build a Diesel hybrid car and you dont need to argue anymore :D
I don't like the Prius either but from what I've heard, they've been out for about 8 years now and the reliability has been great the batteries have good longevity. At least in the tahoe if the batteries go dead you've still got a 6.0 liter engine with 320 hp or w/e to get you going.
That's what I: meant when I said "there is no subs for a Suburban to a big family"- the Suburban is the lone exception to large SUVs that can be warranted when there is a big family, and there is no substitution to a Suburban.
*continued ... in Europe does 74 MPG but is not available in the states? it has a 1.6 litre 4 cylinder diesel engine.
I agree. My prius NiMH will run me $12,500 when I change it in few years from now.
And also agree that Diesel had awesome power ratio and low engine maintances to boot.
Where I live I have not found diesel fuel cheaper than regular unleaded in several years. Now real car on the U.S. market gets 90 Mpg, but I will check out the Lupo.
sirios333, I completely agree with you on flawed premise that some people purchase cars based on the size/safety principle. Our historically low fuel tax/fuel costs have encouraged gas hog purchases. I think what is needed (and seems to be coming) is higher fuel costs in order to shift peoples car buying paradigms to smaller more efficient cars. As a result, hopefully manufacturers will then start to introduce more small cars that are both efficient/safer than current small cars.
I have a diesel jetta, super clean burning and a little of the fuel treatment every time you tank up and there ar eno problems with gelling. I'm waiting for the veedub (sp?) diesel hybrid, 75mpg, baby! Coming in fall!
That is certainly better than my old Mustang. What are you driving if I may ask? I have a '56 Ford F-100 pickup waiting till I can find a clean diesel engine to put in it, hopefully a Cummins made after 2002 so I can use bio-diesel and not worry about sub-particulates. I would like to be an environmentally conscious hot-rodder.
I see your point, but I was just trying to tell the guy bashing the Toyota Prius that you don't need a huge vehicle to drive something exciting. Also, the GTi and GLi both have very good crash test ratings (granted the Tahoe is still safer). But if you think in terms of accident avoidance, the Tahoe doesn't stand a chance. You can't maneuver out of harm's way very well in most large SUVs because they don't turn sharply or stop quickly. I guess it all boils down to personal priorities, eh?
I have no way of measuring emissions on my car, but i'm guessing it emitted round about the 100 grams of C02 per kilometre when i got 82 MPG, much better mileage than a Prius and emissions lower too.
Tahoe of course...
It makes a lot of sense to start with getting a high efficiency diesel and then adding the additional efficiency and cost savings of a fully-serial pluggable hybrid on top of that.
20mpg is, just like someone said above, just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. No way that has any resale value once gas hits $5, let alone when it hits $10.
Rudolf Diesel intended the diesel engine to run on bio-fuel. Rudolf tested vegetable oils on his engine as early as 1895. He saw that fossil fuels were a limited comodity back when every one else thought oil would last forever. You are correct though the Punto weighs 1000 pounds less than a stock '56 F-100 that will be an advantage in economy, which will translate to lower emissions per year. Still I should get to 60 about three seconds before you do and have a clean conscious when I do it.
Well hands down, being a 3rd time Mercedes owner, Ill have to say its true, Once you've followed the star, you never go back. My family always owned Chevy or Ford, and we were always satisfied with their performance and longevity. Now that im out on my own, Im finding that Mercedes offers the same, but then also offers luxury and style only Mercedes can deliver.
we have a 91 350SDL with 220,000 miles it gets 24 MPG both ways. Its great big car and going stroing.
Mercedes is developing a diesel-electric hybrid. I believe the first applications of this new system will be seen on the S400 Bluetec Hybrid.
new diesel technology is much cleaner than one would think
that would actually be a good idea
Hi Liamizzle, if suppose you, along with your 4 friends and myself are planing to go for a long drive for a rave at a beach which is quite far away from a city or place where we live and while on our way back we would also like to go camping in some dark forest with surrounded hills, I am sure you really need either of these SUVs right? Not a hatch back, anyways, whats your favourite SUV and a hatchback?
i don't understand? What kind of emission standards allow a hybrid that only does 20 MPG? Surely the emissions will be at least 3 times higher than a normal diesel car that does 75 MPG?
Correct me if I'm wrong, since I don't know the MPG on a regular Tahoe, but hybrid engines in a SUV don't do much yet, ne? And wouldn't driving a diesel be rather expensive?
We'll be near that soon, and it's about time too. I think these gas prices will finally force most Americans to lay off the SUVs, period. Will be good for the pocketbook and a bit better for the environment.
I love reading old comments it's like im from the future 😂 ... So im buying an Tahoe hybrid 2008 next week... Now we know GL and x5 can't offroad shit and GL transmission repair cost as much as a car 😐✋ don't go offroading with fancy cars
New small diesels I hope catch on in the USA. We need more namufactures offering SMALL diesels in cars. Diesels account for 50% in Euro. New low sulfer diesel fuel (not bio) & clean diesels (TDI VW Jetta - 50 mpg highway) are clean, better than hybrids for highway communters. I drove a new VW TDI Jetta demo & two Civics (man/auto). The Jetta felt like a car, quiet, clean, smooth, powerful (yes torque). The Civic, 38 mph highway, sounded like its winding, working hard w/ weak acceleration.
One more aspect is Chevy takes regular gas vs Merc diesel which is about 40 cents more per gallon, so cost per mile advantage hybrid.
Zory Sherman It's a dollar more where I live lolz
LOL me and a friend were talking about the odds of an electric/hybrid semi running into us while we crossed a street
We wouldnt have heard it coming before we could see it
The woodgrain interior might explain why the other Benz models are using silver plastic and carbon fiber materials.
under what logic,the've compromised to much of what suvs are meant to do,you lose all the off road capibilty with the low bumper,and the've stripped the towing(which is now lower then a ford explorer v8) only to offer less over all gas milage then there meredes(which dosen't have any of the chevys compromises)
Damn those are some fancy truck drivers if they go for mercs...
This just proves one thing (yet again) for me tho; having a hybrid doesn't mean better fuel efficiency... Hybrids are just seriously the wrong way to go, and it "tricks" people into thinking it's more enviorment friendly, when that surely isn't always the case! That said; the Tahoe looks kinda nicer on the outside than the benz :)
I dont understand how they place the Gl benz in a large sized suv category...
EPA for ya. Emit less emissions per liter, even if it requires more liters to be emitted. In the end, more emissions I'd say.
when did hydrogen fuel cells come into play? how long has diesel and petrol been around for? i thought so too. give another 20 years.
Wouldn't that be to let the turbo cool down? I think we just need to make oil powered cars more efficient.
I don't understand the EPA emission standards in the US. Why don't they let low emitting ultra efficient vehicles pass the standards? These little diesel's that do 60 to 100 MPG emit less than a quarter of carbon dioxide than your average sedan in America. Would the EPA rather have cars that pollute more? i don't get it!?
Another thing about hybrids... try driving them up in the north country during the winter. Electric motors and such just don't agree with the -20º and -40ºF temperatures of a North Dakota winter, not to mention our neighboring states. I'll run the diesel with #1 fuel (and not the bio crap either). You may still have problems, yes, but not as many.
Diesel is better for a utility vehicle. Since a diesel needs almost no fuel to idle it gets better mileage in city traffic. I miss the VW Rabbit Diesel I used to have. 50MPG.
BUT-- just try to get one started when its been sitting outside on a 9 degree F night in the snow (unless you get a block heater).
Er... yes i did, i'm from the UK thanks. In Europe there are plenty of cars that do between 60 and 100 MPG. My best was 82 MPG in my Fiat, but now fuel has dropped to $6 a gallon, i just bought a sports car. Incredibly though i got 50 MPG in that the other day too! Gotta love Fiat.
how about making a diesel/electric hybrid?
@bg1379
Not all of us are getting away from big SUV's. As a family of 6, we've had 2 Suburbans, an '89 2500 4x4 and our current '04 2500 4x4 with the 8.1 L V8. We like the interior room, the power and ability to tow my racecar or our camper (38'-11k lbs.). I'm actually considering replacing our minivan ('00 Olds) with a newer 1500 Suburban. It'll still get in the low -mid 20's on the highway, plus you won't need a roof/cargo box on top to fit luggage and such while traveling or on vacation.
these diesel hybrids should be good when they come
FYI- The Imperial gallon is .83% of the American gallon.
LS Tahoe @ $36000 gets 20mpg highway vs. Hybrid @ $53000 which gets 22mpg. Add to that the fact that Hybrid are rated less environmentally safe than a Hummer H2... Not to be rude but the plain Tahoe is the way to go, IMO.
notice how there was no euro insults.
2003 Honda Pilot ftw, 18-23, half the price of the benz, 0-60 in 7.6 sec and seats 8(albeit not comfortably). And it uses regular unleaded which means I save about $.30/gallon at the pump compared to diesel. Don't get me wrong I love the torque of a diesel:) Leather seating, nav out the door for 35 grand. Currently has just under 70,000 miles.
Cmon, seriously, 5,800lbs HYBRID!?!?!?! Only an American company could think of something so ridiculous. Then there is th whole battery replacement...
checked the price of diesel lately?
I will not argue your point about Americans and pollution. I took geology last year and I noticed two facts about global warming. 1> Compared to the amount of green house gasses produced by volcanism all of humanity only contributes about 10% per year. 2> Before every major ice age there is a dramatic spike in global warming. While we are part of the problem it is too early to say we are the only fault. Polar inversion could be a factor as it reduces the strength of the Earth's gauss fields.
but then again with a diesel and a few if any modifications you can run Vegetable oil in a diesel and pollute less and alot of Fast food restraunts are willing to give away used vegetable oil. I think I would choose the diesel over a hybrid.
Might wanna take the pricetag off your cap there buddy!
is that first car in the video passing over the camera a noble?
i know it seems really stupid too to have a 6.0L v8 with a hybrid but at least you can say theyre trying
3 MPG better in the Mercedes but and about 75 cents more per gallon. Do the math - the hybrid is a tiny bit better on miles/$ (we need to measure mileage that way now a days)
True, but I've had a few admirers from the US who like my car, unusual because the car market is so different in the states, they tend not to like small cars, despite their ability and performance (and economy) Do you like my car?
the chevy looks like it's "unfinished". what were they thinking when they designed the front part?
Aptera won't help a family of 4 and won't replace the sedan. It's great to be innovative, but it has to be usable too. I can do 95% of my trips in a Zap Xebra SD carrying 3 extra passengers and it ROCKS!
My old car used to get 82 MPG, i sacrificed economy for performance, now i only get 30 to 40 MPG
listen, today diesel is so expensive. here in nj regular gas is like 3.35 while diesel is 4.45. just because it gets 4mpgs better does not make it more economical. but DAMN 24 mpg for a full sized suv? thats more than my 4 cylender altima gets i get like 22.6 on that thing
I'm not sure i understand your comment?
Diesel > Hybrid because it saves more gas. Many people don't know that the same diesel engine vs the same gasoline engine: diesel engine gets 30% more MPG...ALWAYS.
Hence why new cars are becoming diesel.
In Europe we are not using MPG but L/100 KM :) My VW Passat Highline 2.0 TDI on bahn consumes only 5.1 L / 100 KM, at average speed 105 KM/H. :)
Diesel vehicles get better MPG than gasoline vehicles, but diesel fuel cost more which offsets the any MPG advantage.
Hey, you got it in one!.
The maintenance between the two makes all the difference. The benz cost much more to fix.
Tahoe♥♥♥
I'm American, I love my country etc. That being said, Of the approximately 25 cars & motorcycles I've owned, they have all been German & Japanese. I love cars, I love innovation. This comparison is a joke. Mercedes all the way!
I guess there's only so much to be said (and shown) in a five minute video clip, but I expect Edmunds to focus on content and facts, not stories and superfluous dialog.
Why have the camera on the two review staff instead of showing the details of the cars? (Look to euro video reviews for better ways to highlight the dynamics of vehicles with video ... moving through traffic, parking, seat adjustments, etc.)
Why didn't we see video of the key differentiators as they were mentioned?
why do they make suv hybrids anyway
Yeah? But where's the fun in a Tahoe or any large SUV for that matter? It's not like they handle well, accelerate quickly, or are fun to drive. Not to mention they don't fit well in a normal-sized parking space, people who drive smaller vehicles can't see over them if they want to pass, and they cost over $100 dollars just to fill the gas tank. There are plenty of fast and fuel-efficient vehicles out there. The Mini Cooper S, Volkswagen GTi, Honda Civic Si, and new BMW 335d for example.
yeah they don't understand that fuel in the us right now is 2.39 a gallon and i europe its 6 a gallon usually more
Older merc diesels are better in reliability and longevity than the newer ones. Try pairing a 300D against a shit Prius, and then come back to me. THERE you'd see the real advantage in price up front I assure you...
People here do not see the historical difference between Europe and this continent.
Most European cities were build before a car was invented or even affordable to common men.Parking is scarce or not available in norrow streets.
Stores like grocery stores are in walking distance and work is not as far away as here.
And families in Europe are much smaller as here.
It hurts to shell out $50 more as to fill up the gas tank, but it hurts much more if you get injured in an accident
first i would like to correct editor on this video of the prices he did just mention the different between the mercedes and the chey TAHO is big is about 4,615$ this is alot of money the MERCEDES cost 45,875$ and the CHEVY TAHO cost 50,490$ now this prices from the official site for both companys any way still i can't see who pay this amount of money this
I got an idea. Why not have a gl320 cdi hybrid? diesel hybrid would be efficient.
My car cost less than $9k, is not a hybrid and does 68 MPG, so what am i?
well hibrids are ok
we can use less contamination...
as long as they dont make hibrid vipers and vettes...its all good
So what's the point having a hybrid when you can get 60 to 100 MPG in a normal diesel car? Doesn't make sense.
Not if you live in Canada ! Right now, diesel is about 3 cents / liter cheaper than gas ! ;)
Another thing, Europe produces 95% more cars every year than the USA, that's twice as many, and yet Europe's overall emissions have still dropped by 2 or 3% since 1990, yet America's have risen by 16%. Nice country, just needs to sort out it's emissions!
well diesel fuel has a lot more potential energy per gallon than gasoline, that's why diesel powered vehicles are more efficient than their gasoline powered counterparts.
diesel is expensive in some places... but i was just in virginia and found it for under $3.00
I don't think you know enough about emissions to comment on this, no offense. Modern diesels are famously know for exceptional fuel economy and low emissions. Even an Audi
R8 super car with a 350 BHP V8 diesel that does 160 MPH does 30 MPG, not bad for a super car. Providing engine size is kept small, diesels will always be kinder to the environment than petrol, due to low fuel consumption. I still think a hybrid should do at least 100 MPG or what is the point really?
I'm sure you have no clue, but recycling auto batteries is big business. You can get paid to recycle them at your local scrap yard. Last fall I took in 900lbs. and got $200 Thats not that many when you factor in that they weigh 40-100lbs a piece. I think the price has gone up since then, too.
On this continent, diesel's are more popular than petrol's. 60% in fact of all new cars are diesels in Europe even though diesel is usually more expensive by about $1 a gallon more, it makes up for it in economy. My car does 82 MPG, the petrol version does maybe 60 MPG or less.
20mpg combined mpg is not impressive. I got that in a Ford E350 Club Wagon 15 passenger van with a 7.3 IDI diesel. Much bigger and much much heavier. Not as fast, but wasn't no slouch either.
That is aside from my point, but yes emissions could be lower. The real shame is that every American car I have owned gets better gas mileage and lower emissions than the manufacturer claimed, but that is more due to clever tuning than to engineering. I had a 66 Mustang, with out emissions gear, that in 1990 turned in a lower emission score than a then new Honda Civic. As bad as the "big three" are there are things a consumer can do to lower their carbon foot print beyond original manufacture.
Yes, for the two or three years that the batteries last. After that, you're back to a crummy 1.5 litre motor that struggles to move the prius. 0-60 in what, was it 13 seconds?
But, be honest, you don't need big V8 to drive from point A to B. Most of the US drivers are spoiled in terms of performance, and want to have performance vehicles even if it's only a town-ride...
@12valvepower1
When the new Duramax 4.5 comes out, I'll definitely consider it. They just need to get it to market! Otherwise, we'll make do with gas burners...plus, the gas engines are way cheaper...initial cost and maintenance wise.
support th idea,that suvs such be used only for city driving and never be used for things that make suvs any better than minivans
But I don't have 300 lbs of lead to carry around and that will have to be replaced in a few years.