A380 Hits Wake Turbulence Before Landing
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It's amazing to think a big heavy A380 can be affected by wake turbulence. A pretty cool reminder of how powerful the forces which create lift are.
You forget the size of the fuselage and the wings. The more surface, the bigger the amount/mass of wind that pushes the machine. I guess weight plays a vital role, but not that much as we've seen in this and many other videos.
wake turbulences are stronger if the previous aircraft fly at a low speed, which everybody does at an airport
Probably another Super Infront...or B74F...
Pound for pound helicopters actually produce more severe wake turbulence than fixed wing aircraft, so whatever you do don't fly behind a Mil26 Halo
@@k.r.99 Your comment is simply mathematically wrong. The equation describing inertia is NOT a linear equation. To make it simple, to move an object with a higher mass, it takes a disproportionately higher force. That is why we don't cross an ocean on a rubber dinghy, but require reasonably sized boats. Boats with higher mass provide more stability. While it is true that disturbed air works on a bigger surface area on the A380, the increased inertia from a higher mass far outweighs it mathematically. You would need to attach a huge sail in order to have strong enough forces working on the A380 to make it move like an A320. Have you ever flown in the Alps in a two-seater plane? The turbulence you will feel is something that you will most likely never feel in an A320. Why? Again, we are talking about inertia here. That is my firsthand experience. And not only are we talking about first-hand experience and math, we also have a huge sample size. Millions of passengers have flown this plane and were able to make observations. Countless forums are filled with reports of a smoother ride, videos are made about that topic, people discuss smoother rides when they smalltalk about their last flight to their holiday destination... That is a sample size you simply can't ignore besides having math also proving the point of inertia.
So why is this plane still thrown around sometimes? Again, physics. If the forces are strong enough, even an A380 will move. That doesn't mean that physics as a discipline is wrong and inertia doesn't exist. It simply means you didn't understand what inertia means. If an A380 is thrown around, imagine what would have happened to an A320. In this case, we probably have another Super landing beforehand creating enough disturbed air to upset the following Super. What would have happened to an A320? Actually we don't know because lighter aircraft are required to be given more spacing (7-8 NM instead of 6 depending on the weight of the aircraft). So even the entire aviation industry knows what inertia really is. I don't know what made you think that you were correct and where you have gotten the confidence to make a post which is just wrong. I don't get the psychology of people who spread misinformation and falsehoods as facts. I hope you learned something from my post. Good luck!
So cool how fly-by-wire flutters control surfaces like feathers on a bird’s wings.
It really reminds one of the wing-tip feathers of birds of prey. This from Wikipedia:
“The flexibility of the remiges on the wingtips of large soaring birds also allows for the spreading of those feathers, which helps to reduce the creation of wingtip vortices, thereby reducing drag.”
On an A380 it’s a feature called LAF: load alleviation function.
It’s designed in part to protect the airframe from premature fatigue from being flexed and also to improve aerodynamics.
@@thomash2806 nice. That’s a cool fact.
I think the old Locked L-1011s were the first to have some sort of load alleviation capability.
the tristar was so ahead of its time man@@major__kong
It's relieving the outer wing of gust loads and levelling the aircraft, computer controlled based on sensors in the wing. The outer wing flexes a lot, Indeed Airbus could not use it for fuel tanks ..
Great to hear the pilot explain to the passengers
1:10 I find it so fascinating to hear the Doppler effect whenever an object making sound passes by
Yeah, quite interesting
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Who doesnt
neeeeeeeeyuuuuummmmmm
I remember reading about that back in 1978 ,not many people know about it.
Anyone just love that A380 flap sound?GO AROUND!!
Sounded like something out of Star Wars or War of the Worlds…
Hydraulic systems are definitely musical 🤗
I thought that sound was from retracting the landing gear?
@@OwnedByACatNamedC.C. I didn't see the flaps move at all.
@@yolsclassics6347especially when the are at 5000psi.
Most snow landing are performed ‘hard’ on purpose to avoid initial skidding. That was an amazing landing!
You mean the deployment of the speedbrake?
@@TB-um1xztell me you’re not a pilot without telling me you’re not a pilot
@ashleydavis3342 Well, I hate to disappoint you, but you're incorrect on your statement.
@ashleydavis3342 let me help your ability to understand. The reason we drive the airplane on contaminated runway is to prevent hydroplaning and get the brakes working. The airplane touched down and the spoilers never came up, therefore the speebrake in the cockpit didn't move.
@@ashleydavis3342Tell us you are neckbeard without telling us
Watching that A380 correct the turbulence was like seeing a piano being played. Beautiful.
Those split ailerons are very fascinating. They appear to move totally independently of each other, but it really works like this.. Inner aileron moves same time as outer, but twice as far, and middle aileron follows half second later. Seeing the full span spoilerons coming up means the pilot (or autopilot) was making some very large inputs.
I only noticed them on my last A380 flight. Looks like a beautifully choreographed dance.
I think the reason for that movement could be to shift the lift from the wing tips to the wing roots.
@@uatech219 All of those surfaces are extremely far from the wing root (where the wing literally connects to the fuselage). Best info I can find is that it helps reduce wing twist (they actually lock out the outer aileron completely above 250 kts), and because they found the computers figured out this produced the best response in turbulence.
Thanks for the explanation!
It’s called load alleviation function or LAF. It’s an A380 feature designed to reduce flex-induced fatigue on the wing by, as its name suggests, alleviating aerodynamic loads.
I didn’t know Peterbilt made biplanes! And the snow landing was amazing! Good vid!
My uncle is a trucker and he always blares his peterbilt whenever I am walking and he drives by. and they make planes? fun! I mean, Ford made the trimotor...
I've said this before and I will say it again - A380 has the quietest engines ever. Such a marvel that machine!
Love the train horn on the Antonov! I always thought it would be cool to have a plane honking as it flew or taxied past 😂
Also, Doppler effect perfection! 😁
Definitely a unique combination, like a sublime moment. I watched it 3 times in a row.
I loved the horn as well it was brilliant didnt know light aircraft had them couldn't they have something a lot lot louder on the big passenger planes then if there an issue on landing o e long blast could mean emergency on board plane in flight two short blasts repeated after 15 seconds could mean hostage situation in that case the pilots as the hijackers hot in could have quickly given that signal over the live radio ATC would have had its last position and signal for hijack would it have prevented 9/11 I doubt it but if the powers that be reacted faster then and said to all other American airlines were going to get uou down whoever you are be it in a field on the roadway disused airfield Park etc I think it would have saved some lives on last plane to be hijacked you can't tell ne tgey coukdnt design some kind of horn on big passengers planes
Stunning engine sound on the 757? It sounded like a baby to me!
Every engine sounds like a baby
Bruh he’s talking about the thrust reduction itself 💀
I knew that - I was trying to make a joke because the two completely different sounds overlapped...
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It's interesting that it's basically impossible to notice the engine thrust increase. A380s are so quiet, aside from the flap mechanisms!
Sitting behind the engines, you only hear the sound of the wind and thrust rushing past. In front, you would hear the engines a lot.
Trust me you notice in real life, I got into the a380 on seat 83A expecting it to be so quiet but you definetly hear them roar at takeoff. But obviously a lot quieter than the rattling 777
Oh come on, "the rattling 777" ... give that widebody more credit than that!@@Kayshots
@@guidancefromjah Sorry dude hahah, I absolutely hate the 777 and I don’t even know why 😂
For me it has always been dissapointed as every time on a 777 we were supposed to be on an a380 😉
Thanks Emirates and Qatar 🥲
you owe us 13 seconds of aviation
lmao fr
Bit overused comment don't you think?
@@athgt6630You're here too much
@@athgt6630 oop cause i never seen it before lol
More like two minutes cause most of the video had nothing to do with an A380
This has rapidly become my favorite aviation channel. Love the format. Keep it up.
1:48
Ryanair: Get that pilot an application!
You owe us 13 seconds of aviaton
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The A380's ability to pull up in an emergency is incredible - the power of those engines!
Absolutely agree
The sink rate prior to TOGA selection seemed very minimal
Tremendous power at the crews disposal
@@stevesmitherman2981 There is a video where the A380 actually touches down but due to extreme crosswind the plane would have jackknifed, so they had to abort at the very last minute - within a split second that plane was back fully in the air and soring off above the runway. [BRITISH AIRWAYS A380 GO AROUND HEATHROW AIRPORT - Evie Aviation].
I think in these emergency circumstances they are allowed to go full power for a few seconds - and that is a lot of power.
"Maximum takeoff thrust is the highest level of power the engines can produce and is used during situations where the aircraft needs extra power for a short duration, such as during an aborted takeoff or an engine failure during takeoff.
In the case of an emergency, pilots have the ability to apply full power, utilizing the engines' maximum takeoff thrust if necessary. This additional power can be crucial in emergency situations, helping the aircraft climb quickly or execute other maneuvers to ensure the safety of the flight.
It's important to note that pilots are highly trained professionals who follow strict procedures provided by the aircraft manufacturer and aviation authorities. They have the knowledge and experience to make decisions regarding engine thrust, ensuring the safety of the passengers and the aircraft. "
What emergency?
It takes no power to pull the nose up and initiate a climb if you have the proper airspeed. It does take an increase in thrust to keep climbing, but not much of that available for an airplane at landing weight.
There is a lot less drama here than you guys want to see.
I’m sorry you obviously have no idea.
When you apply power the aircraft still sinks especially if in the landing configuration before climbing.
The point people are making is that it’s incredible a 400ton airliner can respond and climb with such ease.
The go around is to prevent the “emergency”!
@@stevesmitherman2981 LOL. I'm sorry but you are the one with no idea. First of all you are mixing apples with oranges. I was talking about immediately pulling the nose up, and you are talking about applying power before pulling the nose up. If you don't pull the nose up and just add thrust, yes the airplane will continue to descend for a time. If you pull the nose up, no it will not continue to descend, at least until decelerates because you never added power.
The size of the airliner doesn't matter, they are all designed to the same standards and heavier ones have larger wings for a reason.
Declining to accept a substandard landing is not an emergency.
10/10 for that SW pilots landing! And the 757 is such a badass plane - love flying in them!
Am I the only one who hates thrust reduction when flying?! Immediately puts a pit in my stomach.
Never get used to it, especially because I feel like on most flights I don't hear it so when I do it's always an instant "What's that???"
It’s normal, doesn’t bother me, but you are probably not the only one either.
Well you should never fly out of Orange County airport.
I love it. Such an awesome sound.
Maybe you shouldn’t sit in the front of the airplane then.
That snowy landing had a lot of atmosphere! Love that.
Just when you thought you have seen everything there comes an Antonov An-2 flying - with a friggin TRAIN HORN! 😂😂😂
gotta give ultimate credits and respect to the pilot at the very end transitioning from a very shaky approach to a perfectly smooth touchdown. Impressive
hope to fly in an a380 one day, looks crazy
That Southwest landing was smooth like butter!
An Antonov 2 equipt with a train horn. My question is what took so long?😅
since it's soviet plane then u'd better say they equipped train horn with an an-2
The A380; the most comfortable and smoothest plane ever.
Gentlemen, boys and girls, from the flight deck, this is the captain speaking ..... Great to hear captain explain situation to passengers ...
@@blorpblorpblorp all women love to think they're still "girls" so yeah, the pilot is a preety smooth operator
@matthewbanks9689 hopefully, the audio missed the part where the captain says ladies (and gentlemen) .... but ya never know .... Ha, if audio was clipped at the start, it just shows how something can be so easily taken out of context.
The 757-300 and it's famous Whale call! - nice video thanks!
Always love the sound from 757 engines.
Looking at that A380 wing's control surfaces doing their thing like a huge mechanical bird, it's like nature and technology ended up with the same convergent evolution.
God I love that 757 engine sound
Nice job, Southwest pilot!
A very nice collection. Well done!
Very good as usual 10/10
1:39 the baby screaming when thrust reduction 😂😂
1:02 Imagine this but with a commercial jet at 300 mph
My ears would not 😂
So like, play the video faster...
Great reflexes, calm captain, good save!
Another great video!!!
Great video!!
That horn though! 🙂
These are cool... thanks
Putting horns on any contraption where it doesn't belong is just genius . There's a guy who put a motorcycle horn on a drone, it's so annoying it has the power to channel every little brother in the world. If your little brother suddenly has a stare and a smile, you know honking drone is out there doing ts business!
lmao 💀
Love that A380 LAF!
Briliant video, great captures
Good view of the QE II in the first clip
So smooth the pilot wasn't sure if they actually touched down for a second
I can't help but notice the QE2 looking elegant in the distance
That Southwest landing, unexpected lol. But I love it.
Weird thing my dad was in on this plane ( the emirates ) and when he spoke to the captain he said that there was no wind at all but the plane went back up safe travels to everyone and happy summer!
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Nice 👍
Greetings from Helsinki ❄️
Engine Sound = best therapy 😅
Thanks good videos
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Great landing there of Shouthwest.
That passing AN-2 though...one auditory mindfuck right there!
something something skytrain
that landing in the snow was textbook..
Amazing butter landing from southwest 😮💨😃😗
I experienced a similar incident about 30 years ago. I was on a B737 on final approach to Oakland International Airport in California. We were so close to the water that I saw the famous restaurant near the water’s edge seen from the right side of the plane.
Then we heard a very loud “SWOOOSH!” sound and our plane suddenly lost altitude! Had we been flying lower the pilots might have had to change their underwear! It happened so suddenly that no passenger even had a chance to react to the incident. Luckily the pilots regained control of the plane and we landed safely. One of the pilots said over the p.a. that we hit the wake turbulence of a B727 that was landing ahead of us. Unforgettable experience! 😢😅
Trainhorn was awesome!
well the southwest definetly has earned a standing ovation wow
regarding the last video, i don’t know how safe it is to perform a smooth landing on a snow contaminated runway. usually in this conditions you want to perform medium/hard landings so that the landing gear physically moves the snow out of the way so that the tyres can better grip on the runway
A smooth landing in a 737 would indeed be a beautiful thing... I'm still waiting to experience the first one.
that 757😍
I love the A380 what a Bird👌
Bro owns us 13 seconds of aviation
Here to just explain the first clip a bit more! This is a common occurrence on Runway 30L in Dubai, this is mainly because of two things, 1) Dubai is very strict on 3nm not much more separation because of how busy it is 2) The wind often comes over the Hangar you could see and causes wake turbulence, this is why you sometimes will have a bumpy landing there.
and if your asking how i know this or questioning me, my Father is ATC at DXB and I know a crap ton of Emirates pilots :)
Could u please tell me what was that sound at around 0:26
That is just the very weird sound of the Flaps on the A380 @@akhil0113
Those Flaps sounds are Soothing to Hear. 🤓
Yikes! Not sure I'd like to hear that noise coming from any plane engine! 😬😲 Nice butter landing in the snow from that Southwest pilot!
That might look nice and feel nice to the passengers, but I wouldn't be really happy as a passenger as it is less safe than a firm touchdown (but still safer than a bounce).
@@apveeningit’s perfectly safe.
it's the tips of the fan blades breaking the speed of sound
The 757 scream is the best
1:33 Sounds like the Evinrude Lark IV outboard on my Dad's '62 runabout!
RyanAir Pilots watching that Southwest landing: You are doing it wrong.
But I am sure they were applauding the Porter landing.
Very well done by the captain
little plane w a train horn is hilarious to me
Dash 8 cockpit:
Captain: “ok now you can flare”
F/O: “ who is Claire?”
Dash 8: slapped on the ground with no flareat all 😂
1:16 lol, nice touch!
0:37 QE2
That AN-2 reminds me of Dusty Crophopper in Planes, when he folowed the "iron compass" a.ka railway... he should have that horn too... 😅
Emirates pilots: even an inch of stable approach goes wrong, GO AROUND!!
I do believe I saw John McClane on that snow covered runway!
I lost it with the plane honking lmao
its not the safest idea to land smoothly on a wet or icy runway, But that was impressive
Edit: I made a spelling mistake
It’s perfectly safe.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Its better to make a positive landing to avoid skidding and also in this case the plane floated a while which ofcourse becomes more of an issue with shorter runways.
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 not really. Increases the chance of hydroplaning and the AC not deploying the TR or speedbrake.
@@TB-um1xz this is a B737. The TR is available when the aircraft is below 10 feet radar altitude. The airplane doesn’t even have to be on the ground.
The ground spoilers also get triggered by wheel spin up, however, if this doesn’t happen due to hydroplaning, the right strut compression will deploy them. I’ve never had issues with ground spoilers not deploying. Especially since deployment of the TRs, will compress the right strut, due to deceleration, which will settle the aircraft on its struts.
Besides, you can still manually deploy the spoilers. That’s part of the briefing when landing in these kind of conditions.
The main danger of hydroplaning is not the failure of the spoilers to activate but the loss of control and increase of landing distance required, smooth touchdown on contaminated runways should be avoided always
One has to feel for that poor Dash 8 nose wheel/strut. Ouch.
😂😂😂😂😂 I really like the An-2 use the air pressurized horn!
Thanks to all good pilots
In the last few years flying in and out of Dubai I don’t think a day went past when I didn’t get caught in wake turbulence. Then corona struck…seemed to all quieten down after that!
Snow tires on southwest? That was smooth.
An-2 showed us very nice Doppler's effect.
Interior footage from a plane - cue instant baby crying 😂
Bro as soon as the an2 honked its horn from my open window all i heard was "WONK WONK WONK WONK" as a train hinked its horn too
Those Rolls Royce RB211-524Hs on those 757s are immense. Way overpowered but that's why pilots love flying them
Aren’t they 535Es?
@@peteconrad2077 I think you're right. I'm used to working 747s 🤣
@@peanuts2105 now they were -524Hs and Gs.
A bi-plane with a train horn....lol love it.
Yeah, turbulence on approach on DXB hits different :)
I'm surprised an Airbus A380 would even have to worry about other aircraft wake turbulence, considering how big and heavy it is.
I always used to think that when a plane's engine made noise, it was on the airline that they did not maintain it. "Why are we still taking off in this?," I would ponder to myself.
1:35 WOW!
That first one is one cool Captain, I’d fly with him anytime.
Notice that from 0:23 to 0:30 are the country’s sheikh’s aircraft’s standing in the ramp… so rare to see them flying or in the ground yk.😅 it’s like a private jet for them.
Landing smooth on snow is the worst you can do
Ohh flaps sound good!!