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French Football is Dying.
French Football is Dying.
French Football is Dying.
It died the moment they named their first tier after McDonald’s 💀
It’s hard to take it seriously but they clearly are in need of money
McDonald's does not sound right anywhere apart from McDonald's All American (the HS honour)
It died in the moment PSG started winning a lot
The mc French league
Before this it was Uber Eats...
Now McDonalds... 💀
15 years ago, Bordeaux were French league champions and beat Bayern Munich and Juventus in the Champions League. Look at them now...
They will be back in a few years. They are a club in a big city with a state of the art stadium.
Fun Fact: Remember that when Bordeaux were on top of the UCL group with those teams, both Bayern and Juventus went on to dominate their domestic leagues in the future, with Bayern winning every Bundesliga titles between 2013 and 2023 and Juventus winning every Scudettos between 2012 and 2020.
@@MrkraZzz As a new Bordeaux entity???
Paris Saint-Germain - 12 Titles
AS Saint Etienne - 10 titles
Olympique de Marseille - 9 Titles
AS Monaco - 8 Titles
FC Nantes - 8 Titles
That's how competitive Ligue 1 used to be, for a League that produces so much Talent it's sad how Clubs are barely surviving.
PSG before the money was quite low on that list too
@@Vizeh money hungry investors are killing football, I'm saying this as a Manchester City fan aswell
@@Olivzyshortsman city fan😂 right
Ligue 1 hasn't been competitive since like the 1990s, Marseille cheated a couple titles, you had Nantes and Monaco in between followed by a period of domination by Lyon where they won SEVEN titles in a row
@@jay7949 whole life it comes from my family
RIP Bordeaux
(1881-2024)
Premier League is ruining footballl
And sadly there will be plenty more
Rip Bordeaux.
8 of 18 teams in the french top tier might be going under soon due to having no money @@Vizeh
Yep
It feels very weird that my club, Stade Brestois, is somehow one of the most stable French clubs financially, especially if you discount any club owned by a rich country
The one benefit of Ligue 1 is that every season it appears that a new team breaks into UCL Bubble, I do like that aspect of it, I just hope these clubs can build on it more
@Vizeh Well unfortunately that's not gonna be Brest. We are acutely aware that trying to regularly compete for Europe would lead to disaster for a club of our size. We tried that in the 80s, went bankrupt and back to the amateur leagues. Trying to glow up too quickly would be making that same mistake.
Instead Brest has been turning up a profit for a number of years now in the transfert market. I expect it to remain the same this season
@@lucaslonchampt613you get €12M+ just for making in the champions league the others you do get a couple of Millon for entering the UEL / ECL. Plus you get money for winning and drawing literally I found that out FM just doing champions league qualifiers you actually pretty good money in the 1st - 3rd qualifying rounds.
@@lucaslonchampt613 They might end up just going into europe by default if they are turning a profit in Ligue 1.
@@lucaslonchampt613 La saison prochaine va être une saison charnière pour notre club. Le Saint n'a pas l'air de vouloir tout vendre et rejouer le maintien donc on a sûrement quelques belles années à voir. J'espère juste que l'argent de l'UCL passera majoritairement dans l'amortissement de l'Arkéa Park et pas dans des hausses de salaire comme à Lens.
There is still a chance. It may take like 20 years but almost the same thing happened to my club SSV Ulm in 2000. We were in the Bundesliga, got relegated, then got relegated again, went bankrupt and had to play in the 5th division of German football with our reserve team. We made it back to the 4th division, wich is now the 5th division because they made another division wich is now the 3. Liga (it's all really complicated) and eventually made it to what is now the 4th division of German football, the Regionalliga. After more than 20 years of amateur football and 2 more bankruptcies, we finally made it back to professional football and got promoted to the 3. Liga in 2023. Now in 2024, we got back to back promotion and return to the 2. Bundesliga after 23 years. So there is still a chance for Bordeaux but it may take a painfully long time.
Strasbourg and Bastia have had this kind of rebirth in a matter of 6 7 years earlier so there's hope for Bordeaux but they need to get rid of Lopez and their stadium is gonna cost them too
there should be a 50+1 rule all over the world, to stop the inflation of pricesof tv rights and level out the clubs.
W for german football for that
Shalke fc disagrees
Hamburg disagrees
@@IHSpark7325 well there is alot less dead football clubs when you have the 50+1 like in germany and sweden
@@rasmushaak8876Bundesliga is a farmers league just like Ligue 1.
We roast it being called McDonald’s league but La Liga literally called “ea sports La Liga” McDonald’s still hilarious tho
That’s makes more sense to me than Uber Eats or McDonalds come on bro
EA Sports is way better than Mac D's 😂
If you have Uber Eats in your Logo you aren't serious
At least McDonald's is less of a pseudo gambling den.
Bordeaux feels a bit extra sad for me because my first ever live match was Liverpool vs. Bordeaux at Anfield in 2015. No fan deserves to see their club liquidate.
PSG being bought by Qatar was supposed to make it a locomotive and lift the entire league upwards, but it did the opposite… Not only does PSG steamroll almost every season, the other clubs have bled themselves to death trying to compete with it. Before that, the Ligue 1 wasn’t on the level of the Big 4 obviously, but at least it was financially stable.
As for Bordeaux… honestly, learning that the club will have to start over was almost a relief, because man the last few seasons have been painful to watch. Even if we hadn’t missed promotion in the previous season, the current situation would have caught up with us eventually.
France got bought out. The were hugely responsible with qatar's sports washing of football and like you said, were happy that the capital's club was bought by a rich oil state. So much so that the president of France did everything he could to keep his biggest star at P$G for as long as he could. They got karma for all that by destroying the league, they might've won the world cup in 2018, but I wouldn't be surprised if France really starts declining from now on
Without PSG ligue would be outside of the top6 leagues
@@thatoneanimeguy3551 and I think Ligue 1 fans (except PSG fans) would rather be outside of the Top 6 but have a competitive & stable league like before than being in the situation they are now since 2011 with Qatar killing the League more & more every year. It was certainly one of the most competitive League in the World too between 1970-2011 lol who cares about being in the Top 6.
France was one of the most competitive league in the 1980-2000
@@frånz_ésport washing lol if qatar govrnment is bad its because of western support u failed to mention that the west are the ones who put these dictators in power in the middle east so just they can sell weapons because war sells and to get their oil too..
It's happening everywhere - big business and money is killing the sport. Bordeaux were sporting Titans suddenly required to pay dividends, not score goals. In pure sporting terms, there are no reasons for their extinction.
The money in football has always been a bubble and eventually bubbles burst its burst for barca and now the french league it will keep happening
Exactly. Bordeaux get an average attendance of 21k in Ligue 2.
They can easily afford to run a club.
They’ve just spent way beyond their means as have most of Ligue 1
I totally agree with you
Barca is indeed a big bubble created by corruption their best years were literally full of robberies aka the Negreira case trust no one
This is sad knowing, I do hope that someone purchases the image rights for 2 years *ahem TH-cam ahem* and livestream games, have TH-camrs be journalists for French football etcetera etcetera, it opens Ligue 1 to being a modern league, it opens business ventures for Ligue 1 to be a streamable service which makes it streamable. Secondly, younger generations will end up watching Ligue 1 because of it being online. It opens a possibility of bigger investors to clubs other than PSG, it opens so many different avenues. Now all this requires is for TH-cam to market it well and not half ass it, put all hands in the pot and make every team watchable not just important games.
This is what needs to happen in order for Ligue 1 to attract viewers and respect. Great comment
@@JitG-15 it would be entertaining, one of two things will occur though, either TH-cam football "pundits" gonna jump on the bandwagon and make it into a dumpster fire and it fails. Or TH-cam gatekeeps everything and when everything is entirely sorted out sponsorships and things like that, it becomes a major success. That's the only two ways I see it honestly
What happened to Bordeaux has been really touching for me and I believe for many others, as I started following and appreciating French football after their success in the 2008-09 season and with players like Gourcuff or Chamakh. French football has definitely a huge problem with the TV rights that's been cooking for a long time. Nevertheless, I believe that what happened to Bordeaux opened the Pandora Box and we will start seeing similar fate for other clubs in distress in first divisions across Europe. Football clubs are not from fans for fans anymore and they became an speculative asset for hedge funds and governments alike. Furthemore, we are also moving towards an environment where players itself will leverage more marketing/deals/image rights than the clubs themselves, as people rather than being fans of a specific club they are becoming fans of a specific player (for his lifestyle rather than his sport skills). This wouldn't be bad if it wasn't overshadowing the football sport itself.
FC Schalke is dying and might end up like Bordeaux soon
Schalke somewhat stabalising themselves now. They got a whole new board now so there trying to right the wrongs of the old regime. We dont spend a lot but we are clever with how we spend it and sell if when needed. Assan leaving probably funded our transfer window and helped out our finances a lot, Were a lot more stable than we were a few months back that's for sure and things starting to look up.
I did a video on Schalke a few months ago, if they got relegated they would have been in serious trouble but I think they can getting better last time I checked
@@Beyondultragamingthey used to spend a lot on ageing players like they bought huntelaar back but It was just for stabilising the club
As long as Schalke doesn't get relegated they will survive. They are part of the fallen giants group in the second division...
good
As a Stade Rennais fan, Ligue 1 isn’t looking good, even though we now have broadcasters for the new season, no one is looking forward to watch it as the subscription is so expensive. So they won’t get a lot of money for it. My club Rennes is calm financially as we have one of the richest owners in the world, so we will never be at threat for bankruptcy. But 50% of the clubs are pretty much done and could deal with bankruptcy because of it and the lack of big names in the league.
Thats the risk of selling your club to any random rich guy.
Fans are told that if they hand over their club to some Arab sheik, multi club company or Chinese/American oligarch that they'll become the next Manchester City/PSG and it ends up being a massive failure almost every single time.
Best clubs are saudi russian owned look at as monaco and Chelsea before it was forced to sell some American idiot
Oh man, what a damn shame. I just started following Bordeaux for a few seasons because of a player I liked up until they were relegated from ligue 1, seeing this makes me sad. RIP to a club with so much history
Let me guess, that player was Yacine Adli
Bordeaux gave me my best football memory
They invited the club i played for to a tournament, it was my first and only international trophy and i have alot of amazing memories from that, i hope they can comeback somehow
Tbh it's hard to believe that many of those clubs currently at risk of declaring bankruptcy (Auxerre, Lens Nantes, Reims, Montpellier and Le Havre) were former champions of Ligue 1 at some point of the league's history.
Also I noticed that many French football clubs tend to run into financial problems which often led to their demise. Yes, in recent years we saw former Ligue 1 clubs like Sochaux, Gazelec Ajaccio and Evian Thonon Gaillard were either administratively relegated or even folded due to the aforementioned issue.
There’s the battle of trying to compete with literal countries that makes it a losing battle, it’s crazy man
@@Vizeh its even worse when most french national team players don't even play in France
Montpellier were in fact the last champions of France before the PSG era.
Some things to say regarding the state of both Bordeaux and Ligue 1 in general :
- Bordeaux had during these last years the 14th biggest wage budget of France while still being in Ligue 2. There are 18 clubs in Ligue 1. They ended up in the midtable last season.
- The fact that their training center is going to close is an absolute disaster, not only does it kill in the egg the futur prospects they could've sold, it also means the death of a community. It'll maybe reopen in the upcoming years, let's hope atleast.
- The Ligue 1 TV rights are a fucking shitshow but it also illustrates major issues running in the French football : mainly, spending money we don't own. Wages are too high, agents and networks are vultures, corruption runs rampant and young prospect end up being sold early too fill the gaps this absurd way of functioning. And so, when the major source of money runs dry, everyone panics because there's rarely a long-term project. Bordeaux is one of its victims, but many more will follow with the whole TV rights ordeal.
- And regarding these TV deals, currently DAZN is set to broadcast 8 games out of 9, while BeIn Sports gets 1. But apparently they cannot find an agreement on what match to broadcast or not, mainly because it'll most likely be the main big match of the week (PSG, Marseille, Monaco...).
- Now, a DAZN subscription is 35€ a month. Add the BeIn subcription to that with its 15€ a month, you get 50€/month to pay just to watch Ligue 1 in its entirety. This is insane.
I'll be very happy to watch my broke Ligue 2 club on BeIn for 15€/month for the next 5 years (cuz BeIn bought the rights during the summer).
A club like bordeaux can not die. We have been there too in germany. 1860, Alemania Aachen, Energie Cottbus,… all relegated and just when it seems like everything is over you realise its not about the money and the division but the club you love. Most recently 6000 away fans went to Duisburgs first game in their 4th division amateur game. Real clubs will never die - against modern Football. Btw Bordeaux is a soft spot for me ever since my club (Eintracht Frankfurt) played them in europa league over 10 years ago. Sad to see them struggle
Crazy how our French neighbours have been able to keep producing talents despite their clubs are in chaos. Thanks for giving us Laporte and Le Normand. I would fear a France under Zinedine Zidane than under the current Deschamps.
i think le normand has been formed in spain like griezmann or am i wrong
you will fear it under Deschamps still
Le Normand is actually trash, never been impressed by him when I've watched him play at all. I'm convinced the only reason he starts for Spain now is because of his cool sounding name.
You made mincemeat of the Deschamps france in the euros lol
@@BatailleRapTishort That's why I claimed a Zidane-led France will be far more dangerous.
It feels strange tbh. I remember back on FIFA 15, I use to play Bordeaux a lot on there. Idk why cause I am not even French but I did. It’s a shame.
Absolutely awful, I love French football and it's devastating for this to be happening to such a massive club as Bordeaux. I don't even care if Ligue 1 ever really becomes a top league, I just want French football to stabilise and prevent more fans and future footballers from losing their hometown clubs
I’ve had this trip to Bordeaux to visit family set for a while now, but just so happens that the same week I leave, their club shuts down. It’s my second day here, I walked into a Girondins des Bordeaux shop and bought a couple things sort of as my form of showing condolences.
What's killing French football is the incompetence of its owners. Gerard Lopez should never be around any football club or any sports institution.
The most shocking thing to me, and I think it is emblematic of the troubles of French football, is the fact that a huge metropolis like Paris only had one team in the top division. It should be more similar to London or Madrid with multiple top teams competing.
The money is concentrated in Premier League making it a superleague due to influx of funds from US and Gulf states. It's all about marketability.
Italy is coming up with American and Asian money. Spain and Germany have a lot of community/fan owned clubs so it's not common
Italy is coming up with American and Asian money. Spain and Germany have a lot of community/fan owned clubs so it's not common
At least we still have Saint Etienne tho. Ligue 1 wasn't the same without them and I missed the rivalry they had with Lyon
yeah they had the best fans in france imo
lets not forget that barca still owned them 9.5 million from the malcolm deal.
I thought I saw online that it’s paid in full?
@@Vizeh nope
bruh we are fucking useless (barca)
I can't imagine how come Brazil and France share one similar story of chaotic crisis and downfall altogether. Brazil has been in a mess since 2022, while France becomes surprisingly unstable since 2024. To make it worse, clubs like Santos (which gave birth to Pele) and Bordeaux (nurturing Zidane) are no longer in top flight.
At least Brazil has finally had a new coach, but France should fire Didier Deschamps as soon as possible. Being both Brazil and France's fan, this sucks to see what's happening to both now.
In Brazil the domestic league develops 1000s of wonderkids what do European sides do pay a crap ton of cash to said club and they got the new ronaldinho or the next R9. Brazil has now become a domestic league with a lot more ageing European and other types of players domestic youth talents are made and then sold to European sides.
Brazil has been in a mess since losing to Argentina in Copa America in 2021, whereas France failed to score an open goal in Euro 2024 before falling to Spain.
@@jimmyyue238 The whole 2022 WCQ was perfect for Brazil. It's only after the traumatic loss to Croatia that they suffered problems later on. But of course they also helped destroying Croatia in process with their curse.
@@luishernandezblonde Wow, you even mentioned the curse that affected all European teams who defeated Brazil in the World Cup KOs. Germany, after the infamous 1-7 game, were no longer the same good team after winning the 2014 World Cup, though Euro 2024 campaign was a notable exception (they unfortunately lost to winners Spain thanks to stupid referee decision). Belgium, after beating Brazil in 2018 World Cup, crashed out in the 2022 World Cup Group Stage and Euro 2024 Round of 16.
@@ezraezra2928 To add to your Brazilian Curse.
You can even go back to France in 2006. They beat that legendary brazilian team in the 1/4s. Lose in cruel fashion in the Final vs. Italy and then followed the "Dark Ages" of French Football between 2007-2012. That period with Rayman Domenech as the coach was certainly the worst period ever for a french fan.
In 2010, Netherlands beat Brazil in the 1/4s and also barely lost their Final vs. Spain. Aside from that great 2014 WC run, they didn't really recover since then.
As for Croatia in 2022, well they beat Brazil in the 1/4s, they didn't win the WC either (rigged lol), lose the Nations League Final to Spain on pens and then crashed out in Euro 2024 pool stages.
I believe the last team to beat Brazil in the WC and not being cursed at all was France in 1998. They became World Champions and then did go on to win Euro 2000 and 2 Confederations Cup.
Now we just need HITC Sevens' take on not just the situation with Bordeaux but also French Football as a whole
I love Ligue 1, I think the problem is that people think it's a "farmers league" mostly dominated by PSG and that drives attention away and and TV deals away because they think it isn't competitive, but it wasnt always like this. Marseille, Saint-Etienne, Auxerre, Lyon, and many more winners. But ever since a certain club was bought out and started dominating, people dont bat an eye at Ligue 1 anymore. There also isn't much accessibility to watch Ligue 1 matches, most of which are very entertaining
Ligue 1 quite literally hasn't been competitive since 1990s, Marseille cheated their way to 3 titles in a row and you had some winners like Nantes and Monaco in between, and then Lyon won SEVEN titles in a row, something not even PSG has done but yeah PSG winning alot does in fact give it a bad rep
@@lolph5438 I agree, Ligue 1 also has a problem with cheating and scandals.. but it's really entertaining (not the cheating and scandals, the matches 😂)
The American owners were also changing The branding and changing how the club was being run despite what the supporters were saying to the club. It was more of an investment portfolio instead of club management.
What else to expect from yanks...
This reminds me of Bury in England. 😢😢
I wouldn’t compare the sizes and impact really, but both communities could be seeing their club fall into oblivion which is awful
@@Vizeh it's sad that clubs are forced to be destroyed due to some dodgy investors coming in and not knowing what to do. Football is now just about money hungry investors wanting a paycheck
Bury is back though and working there way back up the leagues.
I'm an American Le Havre fan (I know, pretty random) and they're one of the Ligue 1 teams in the biggest trouble financially. I'm hoping that Le Havre and the other French clubs in trouble pull through, somehow.
Yeah bro being an American fan of Ligue 1 is one of the weirdest groups of people to fall into here 😭
Out of genuine curiosity: why Le Havre? I know the truly big clubs in the world have "fans" worldwide, but this would be much more sincere. Visited the town, attended a match, fell in love with the club?
@@hisss I date a person who speaks French so I decided to pick a French team for my first ever FIFA career mode, and I decided on Le Havre and I grew attached to the club that way.
If I ever get the opportunity to go to France I'd love to go to one of their games.
@@raskuly That is one of the weirdest reasons I have ever heard for following a certain club, and I fuckin love it 😂
@@raskuly now that’s quite awkward choice innit 😂
Sooner or later historic clubs like marseille, Monaco or even Lyon could maybe face similar issues. The French football federation need to do something now before that could happen.
EVEN lyon? my brother in christ they are the most unstable of the 3
if an french giant is gona fall i bet it will be lyon
@@idkwhattonameopentosugge-ng6cm its just a hypothetical situation. But yeah, it could happen.
Ho but the federation IS doing something. Digging the graves.
What happened in Ligue 1 (McDonald's League) recently is very similar to the mega-rich Chinese Super League (CSL). Remember when the CSL is used to challenge with European Big 5 Leagues by signing world class players and managers with unlimited funds? That was before the Saudi Pro League entered by storm with the same scenario as the CSL. But then, financial crisis in China happened as a result of COVID-19 and some clubs struggled to survive, with clubs such as Shanghai Port, Shanghai Shenhua, and even Guangzhou FC getting relegated from the CSL.
After the opening ceremony I'm not sure whether it's just the league that's dying there 💀
Still have more history than PSG
Rough times
Do you just say misinformation without research
@@fanboy7181 PSG had little history prior to 2011. They've only existed since 1970
@@Oakeedokee7They still had lots of history before 2011. 2 league titles, many youngsters that developed to world class players, they were kind of like Ajax
@@CCCPRusRusdon't forget that league title that Marseille robbed from them
I wonder what the rules are in Ligue un when it comes to Fan-owned clubs. Just wondering if the fans even tried to pitch in to save the club, and if not, why?
Probably too expensive
i miss bordeaux, it’s next to my local city and I once won a final at the matmut atlantique. Never ever forgetting that moment..
So yeah i feel bad for the fans
"Croire en l'impossible le rend possible", haven't looked it up but sounds to me that it means "believing the impossible makes it possible", or something to that effect.
Keep that spirit Bordeaux, keep that spirit and you'll get through this!
Being a Bordeaux fan rn is devastaing. Just watching a club youve been supporting since your childhood, what was once a top club, being first of all relegated to ligue 2 finishing last and then to national 1 just because of stupid financial decisions is heartbreaking. The end of the 2022/2023 seson was disappointing as well, losing to Annecy on the second to last matchday whilst being 2nd and then having that incident against Rodez was just infuriating knowing it was probably going to be our only chance to go back to ligue 1.
Bordeaux reminds me of Schalke in 20/21
I find it ironic that a country with over 60 million people cannot hold their own pants up.
Portugal should be left out of this, since their clubs are allowed to sell their own TV rights.
But here in the Netherlands, or even in Belgium as well, there are enough healthy clubs that do well enough in European competitions too.
French clubs sold their souls to big spenders and now even the French themselves either don't care enough or simply aren't with enough people to watch these matches.
It is a joke of a league. And their name seems fitting.
Maybe this will finally show people that Europe has 4 big leagues, not 5.
France has the same amount of European Cups/Champions League's as Scotland, Romania, and Serbia; specifically, 1.
Compare that to Portugal's 4 or the Netherlands' 6.
To further complicate matters to France, they have the same amount of European Cup as England national football team at all. England only won the 1966 World Cup, while French club Marseille won the 1993 Champions League. Both of them were done in a controversial favor, with England having the infamous "ghost goal" and Marseille's match fixing scandal that sent the club to Ligue 2.
@@ezraezra2928 It was not the Champions League's Final itself that was controversial, but the Championship match 3 days before the final. Two players were bought to avoid Marseille players getting injured.
On one hand its sad that french football is dying,on the other hand its great to see the French enter crisis
As a Derby fan I can resonate with this, its sad to see. Makes me feel very lucky that I still have a club to support. Football clubs are pillars of communities and the impact is huge on the fans when something like this happens
marouane chamakh was an elite striker in Bordeaux ❤
The sad reality is too, is that this could happen to a number of clubs, meanwhile the one club at top, will just continue to move around no matter what. Which in turn, will only make the league more and more boring, and uninteresting to watch, as who's gonna care about a league, when we already know, the end result will be PSG wining it?
Ligue 1 is the championship equivalent to when a TV show fires an actor, and then NOBODY watches it because it turns out EVERYONE was there *because* of that actor
Just ordered myself Bordeaux's new kit after watching this, it's a real shame that such a big club like them has just disintegrated from existence
RIP Bordeaux
Thats why all the leagues should have the 50+1 rule thank god my country have it
People keeps telling PSG killed Ligue 1 but what is really killing it are taxes.
PSG can be what it is because Qatar has infinite amount of money and taxes don't care for them but for all the other club, if they have good player, they will go play somewhere to be paid better. Runnjng a club where you pay players millions cost twice as much in France.
It is sad because the amount of talent that are created in formation centers in France is unparalleled. People formed in France are everywhere in top leagues but can not stay in France because of money.
It feels like every season Italy and France have to look for a new broadcast partner and agree a tv rights contract. Whereas England have the security of multiple years contracts
because no one wants to watch Juve vs Salernitana. United vs Bournemouth tho..
I'm surprised football clubs & fans haven't lobbied Marcron (who isn't really that popular these days) to order France Televisions to agree a €1 Billion a year Domestic Broadcasting Deal to financially stabilise the French Clubs in question.
He's under Qarar's payroll of course like Sarkozy before him and many others. Look at the Mbappe case for example or the Qatar world cup choice.
@@NicolasViard-kc9dm
Yeah, I'm aware that Macron might well be receiving payments from Qatar. However I would point out that PSG would also benefit from such a deal, mainly because they would be in a better FFP position as a result.
Then again, the Qataris have shown that they lack the talent to actually run a football club.
It might be a continuing trend of separation between the wealthiest clubs and the rest. If something doesn't change, we might end up with a de-facto super league some day.
Bordeaux have now officially been relegated to the 4th division instead of the 3rd according to a local newspaper
A decline in French football is bad for the world, they produce A LOT of talent. This is what happens when oil money comes in. Ruins the sport
Politics killed French football
Politics killed football in general sadly
No, it's the poor regulation over finances. The big clubs get to spend all the big money and keep majority of the broadcast revenue.
COVID did. That season in 20/21 ligue 1 clubs reported a loss of 1.3 billion euros add to this that many clubs like Rennes and Reims were taking out loans while waiting for the new 1 billion euro tv deal to go through as they were promised which we all know ended up not happening and resulted in forcing these clubs to pay these massive loans back which put them in debt
They should change their league format to something more exciting like the Belgian league are doing, as well as do a documentary to bring fresh eyes to their product like la liga have done finally they should start making moves to bring legends to becoming owners of some of these clubs or encourage some multi club ownership model.
PSGs infinite money really killed the league’s marketability. I know the odd team wins but that’s so rare, that even while it’s happening people mostly don’t care.
I don’t see it getting better soon, it’s going to keep falling.
People could say PSG helped the league make it more marketable in terms of big players for TV Deals etc - however I do agree I don’t have much interest in any league if the winners seem that obvious each season
@@Vizeh in the short term yes it did help but now it’s years down the road and it looks bleak.
But Bayerns 10 year dominance didn't kill Buli. There's a sizable part of the country where football is not popular in Framce. It's behind rugby in the southwest and it's seen as a lower class game in France. The crowd has less purchasing power.
But Bayerns 10 year dominance didn't kill Buli. There's a sizable part of the country where football is not popular in Framce. It's behind rugby in the southwest and it's seen as a lower class game in France. The crowd has less purchasing power.
@@samelmudiryeah france and germany have different football cultures
nah as someone who lives in bordeaux and supports them this is really sad to see this historic club dying
Me watching this has a belgian is scary. Money is the Game now.
Despite you guys having a decent national team, your clubs have been anonymous in the European context for a while now.
A lot of Belgian talent goes elsewhere many to the PL
Same happened with French players leaving the French league in the 2010s
@@michaelparkinsonsfreeparkerpen it's a pity. I really like the way you play.
@@LathropLdST I'm not Belgian but that Belgium team in the mid to late 2010s was good
bruhh said “according to lequeep “
there is just 0 money in that league tbh and having no tv deal is a problem it's not like the prem where the tv deal is so huge and money is spread equally or bundesliga where 50+1 prevents teams having majority owners sinking clubs and for people saying psg ruined the league lyon won 7 in a row and in the early to mid 90s marseille had a massive corruption and match fixing scandal resulting in the 93 title getting stripped
Go Ahead Eagles catching random strays here.
I’ve learned more from your channel than any of those “sports shows” ESPN is a joke of a channel.
Number of ligue Un champions since 08/09: 6
Number of prem champions since 08/09: 5
I'm glad to see you talking about french football, as a french football fan i think that people are a bit disrespecting our country's football as we got only 1 Champions League and PSG dominating for more than 10 years now
Being an Ajax fan seeing all your good players leave but never having financial issues has never been a better feeling
well Ajax did have two terrible transfer windows tho. cant happen a third time
@@xcidgafhamas even then there’s been so much money coming in the last years, ajax really isn’t in any issues
@@Umadoveracommentg Euh...jullie hebben 20 miljoen moeten lenen en flink in de salariskosten moeten snijden om een seizoen af te kunnen maken, weet je nog? Niks dat jullie niet aan kunnen, maar "nooit geldproblemen" is 'n tikkie overdreven.
@@hisss womp womp
I fear this opens the door to more struggling French clubs to be bought by Rich premier league owners. For the purpose of loaning or stockpiling young talent at a sister club, like what Strasbourg is to Chelsea.
I love the vids mate you’re one of my favourite creators on here keep it up 🎉
Thank you Emma!❤
@@Vizeh omg u replied 🎉
From what I remember US owners sold their best players right after buying the club and invested nothing and then pulled out.
No its not Dying! and im sure 🇫🇷 would have won EURO 2020 with there best line up of
A. Arreola
J. Kounde
A. Griezman
P. Pogba
K. benzema
K. Mbappe
R. Varane
b. Pavard
A. Rabiot
L. Hernandez
T. Hernandez🫡🔥🔥🔥🏆
They were never a top flight league. In the modern era of football, the league was basically ‘PSG and the race for the other top 3 spots’ (with one or two exceptions).
The likes of Mbappe and Saliba have gone. This will only get worse.
Ligue 1 was a top 5 league in the glory days of Lyon and Marseille
At least when it comes to the women's teams Lyon still gets to shine.
@@yannicklarafunez4768Except no one called Ligue 1 a "farmer's league" when Lyon won it 7 times in a row, something PSG have never done.
@@yannicklarafunez4768the only reason it isn't now is because of covid, with ligue 1 clubs reporting losses of up to 1.3 billion euros in the 20/21 season alone, not to mention the tv rights deals that the clubs were promised but fell through greatly affecting the clubs who took out loans so they could pay them back when the tv deal would arrive but it never did leading alot of these clubs to end up with a lot of debt
Saliba lol
0 ball knowledge:
I remember back in 2010 when Bordeaux beat my favourite team. It's depressing to see such a historic club fall.
an element that may be important to take into account is that during this time, the Bordeaux rugby club is in very good health and has very large audiences.
during the last few seasons they had a much larger audience than the football club.
Today in Bordeaux people seem more interested in rugby than in football
@Vizeh: Congratulations on your reporting on this very complicated business story. I have watched other videos on Bordeaux this morning and those others did not get a full grasp on the importance of the club as a football/sporting organization. Also, the level of mismanagement by the club and the collapse of tv revenue (caused by one club being state owned, making the league too boring from a competitive standpoint) was well presented by you. Thanks.
Even when Mbappe, Messi & Neymar were with PSG I don’t believe anyone looked at the league seriously or as PSG as real contenders to win the Champions League …
It just looked like they were there for the handy league & big money ..
Which I don’t blame them whatsoever ..
Can't believe some idiots wants the club's to be owned by boards like this here in Argentina.
The french clubs and Schalke are the perfect example of why they shouldn't. Everybody thinks it will be like PSG or Man City
Schalke isn‘t run by a board like that. They’re one of the last few „e.v.“ which means loosely translated registered club. For better or worse their downfall is their own fault
@@SN27671 oh yeah my bad, i forgot about the 51-49 thing in Germany
PSG, specifically Nasser al khalaefi killed Ligue 1, mostly.. hold on, let me cook.. His push for PSG as a global brand without strain to improve local talent basically made the club bigger than the league. No one watches PSG for french talent but for football superstars who roam from club to club mostly and Mbappe leaving to Real Madrid drives the last nail on Ligue 1 coffin. There's less interest in the league because there's no french standout talent in the clubs anymore as the giants of the league don't even produce their own superstars. All other major leagues have local standout talents except Ligue 1
League of Superstars turned into the league of Big Macs how they gonna farm the potatoes needed to keep Maccies happy
Thing is without the current PSG ligue 1 would crash to the bottom
Football is the best and the most entertaining sport in the world
It died the day that Sarkozy introduced Qatar to French football.
Thanks for Lord Chamakh
Look at the story of sc bastia. A club is only dead if the last fan has given up.
If Parma and Rangers managed to come back from near death then anyone can
@@gabbyprincip1575 in summer 2017 they got relegated from ligue 1 with 20 million in debt. They immediately lost their professional status and got administratively relegated to France's fifth division. Everybody jumped ship, so they had to start the season with no management, no coach and no players. Show me a club that had a greater fall than them and come back to play a pro league.
@@tainted3922there back in the 2nd division they did well to get back
As long French football produce young talents that the big teams will buy the national league will carrie on.
The formation is the key for the future, the economic system of football is about to change
Something similar is currently happening at my club Blackburn as Vizeh might know and it says something when some Burnley fans have said the Venkys need to go
They want us to be self sustainable at this level which is near impossible when you sell your best players and don’t reinvest
Doesn’t help the ticket prices are high which is pricing out most of those in the town and surrounding areas
Also doesn’t help that we owe them money
Not banks
Them
Which they could easily write off
Myers and Nixon confirmed there’s been offers over the years and venkys have turned each one down
Supposedly the new women’s team shirt sponsor Dakota BioTech is owned by a guy who’s from Blackburn (no this won’t be another Jack Walker you lot don’t worry) who’s supported the club most his life
It’s been rumoured he wants to buy the club but there has to be a willing seller for anyone to buy
People tell us we should be grateful for the venkys but why should we
Before they came in we was a well run premier league side who was touted by Ferguson as being one of the best ran clubs in the country
They are basically using the club as a tax write off which they have now been busted for
Il never be grateful for them because they’ve been killing this club slowly since the day they took over
As for Waggott how he’s got a job still or heck even has one at all after his history is a surprise in itself
Its really sad to see the french league falling apart they have one of the best quads on the international level mamd its sad to see quality of french football falling apart
I'm pretty sure the main problem is the taxation system. Of course leaders are incompetent, but most clubs must sell players only in order to pay salaries which is why Ligue 1 is nicknamed "farmer league". French clubs must pay an astronomic amount of taxes. Only PSG hasn't to sell players in order to just function. Also it kills the league's attactiveness because clubs can't provide high salaries (except PSG).
Merci pour ta vidéo. Flatté de voir que nos amis anglais connaissaient la valeur historique et de prestige en Europe du FCGB. Merci les gars ! Et bon courage à vous dans ces temps difficiles !
I’m just trying to view this from a fan’s perspective. That’s a city with 250,000 people and now they don’t have a major club to support. They could continue supporting Bordeaux but realistically that is no more than any other armature club in the city. I have never been through that so I really don’t know.
I'm not sure if I've ever watched a French league game in my life to be honest, but regardless this is still heartbreaking news.
I think it's partly the fear of 'if it can happen to this club, what other clubs could suffer the same fate?' and also just basic empathy for fans overall.
One fundamental problem with French football: not enough teams in Paris. Just look at the London area - so many clubs so much support. Obviously Paris isn't London but it's just a simple matter of population - the Paris area has 20% of France's population but only 5% of its ligue 1 teams
French football si filled with those stories, and Bordeaux can bounce back like FC Bastia or RC Strasbourg. The fans are probably going to keep loving the club even in non professionnal football, this might a step back to become financially stable and go forward 🤞