@lucaslonchampt613 going from a professional outfit to an amateur one is effectively hitting the reset button and the club being reborn. Whilst the history and heritage of Bordeaux may continue, the previous version of the club is effectively dead to the majority of people.
It doesn't help that Alpine butchered the last great memory of that revived Lotus team by slapping their godawful current livery over the iconic black one.
@@chombus2602 Confusingly, Renault’s F1 team were (and are) based in England because they took over Benetton, who took over Toleman. Toleman competed against a French based Renault team back in the 80s.
The fact they ended up having the actual race cars at one point impounded by bailiffs after a race and were visited by the BBCs Can't Pay Won't Pay must surely give as a low points
I’m Brazilian meaning that I default to hatred forwards all things France courtesy of 1986, 1998 and 2006 losses which prevented us from being 8-time World Cup winners already BUT I put the health and progress of the game above all petty rivalries and hatreds. My heart goes out to Bordeaux and all its people, staff, squads and supporters alike. 🖤
If your club and fans want it enough, you will rise again, and your greatest dreams could be realised. This is not fantasy. I am a Manchester City fan. In 1999, we were in the third tier of English football, and almost went into administration that season. We have all seen what has happened since. In football, dreams can become reality, and many clubs have risen from the ashes. I greatly hope that this happens for Bordeaux.
@@stevenmacdonald9619 All you need is one of those saudi raagheads so they can use the kit to advertise their shitty airline, or a russian oligarch. Or maybe become Red Bull Bordeaux.
Barcelona still owe them €18 million from the Malcom deal… that would have paid off most of the club’s immediate debts. One of the best academies in men’s football, one of France’s most fantastic clubs… just gone.
Yeah I've never understood this, can anyone explain this to me? Barca especially bad for this not paying full fees for players like...wtf?? My guess is simple corruption and bias but please if I'm wrong, correct me!
@@bababababababa6124it was. There is still hope for Bordeaux to bounce back, but French football in general is a joke and I won’t be surprised if they are unable to
@@bababababababa6124 yeah serie A in the early 2000 was crazy in general. The league was close to bankruptcy and a few years later, calciopoli happened
I'm starting to think that I might be a jinx! My favourite Italian team is Parma, my favourite German team is Kaiserslautern, and my favourite French team is Bordeaux, all of whom I have been following since the early 90s!!
I'll say this channel deserves each and every one of its subscribers (and probably deserves more). Quality journalism/investigation, presentation and love the cheeky humor. Been enjoying your content for a while now - in today's football TH-cam, this is gold. Keep them coming, Alfie!
Funnily enough, the only French football Match ive been to was Bordeaux vs a Hungarian side in the Europa league. You used pictures from that match in this video! What a difference 7 years can make in football
As a Spanish, I feel sad for Bordeaux, they were in this breaking point of no return. On the other hand, I still see France a formidable foe and perhaps the only one at the moment. France isn't in the situation like Italy and there is a distinction. Italy self-destructed with their corruption, conservatism and inability to reform (hell even people considered Italy's chance to qualify for 2026 World Cup to be bleak); whereas France has radically reformed for years for the better with their formidable academies. In some way I have to say merci for giving us Robin Le Normand and Aymeric Laporte. I won't shed a tear if Italy's World Cup hurt will extend to even 2038 or 2042, but I will cry a lot if France fails to qualify.
Well we can't say a thing about Laporte and Lenormand when we have the Hernández brothers playing in the France squad or even Luis Fernandez in the 80s. Different life stories, of course. These probably had relatives who ran away from Franco's dictatorship at some point, I guess. But even if you think of Antoine Giezmann, he's 100% a product of Spanish football. He barely played in France.
La Liga has had their fair share of financial struggles starting from the top of the pyramid with Barcelona and Real Madrid. There's something healthy about keeping a strict financial control over football clubs.
I have a friend from the Mouscron area. Even though he isn't a massive football fan, seeing his local team be destroyed was heartbreaking. How he got any more business is wild
All the traditional biggest French clubs such as Bordeaux' St Etienne' Lyon and even Marseille are living off the scraps of PSG which none of them can compete with the financial resources at the Qataris disposal which is killing all the other teams in the league and is only going to get worse such is the financial might of PSG compared to every other French team
Yeah financially it is basically a monopoly. PSG could easily buy all of their rivals best players and stick them on the bench if they so wished. It's really not fun without at the very least one other team of comparable finances, but they have like 5-10 times the cash of the next one in line
Gérard López, now that's a name I haven't heard in a while. When he bought into Lotus, the team was still Renault, and he'd bought in after Renault sold their stake in the team in the wake of Crashgate. Lotus started sponsoring the team in 2011, with the team officially being known as Lotus Renault GP (but everyone still called them Renault). Then they became the Lotus F1 team in 2012. The bonus payment debacle came to the fore towards the end of the 2013 season, when Kimi Räikkönen considered not racing in Abu Dhabi because of the dispute, then did race, and then sat out the final couple of races in America and Brazil to have back surgery. Funnily enough, he left for Ferrari for 2014. By the time 2015 came around, the team was in a fair bit of debt and performance had slipped quite badly. In fact, at the Belgian GP that season, where Romain Grosjean scored the team's only podium finish of the year, the team had bailiffs temporarily seize their cars and equipment after the race due to a payment dispute with their former test driver Charles Pic. A few weeks later in Japan, they were locked out of their hospitality unit due to unpaid payments towards the race organisers from the 2014 event!
I love the fact that Lotus thought Kimi would be cheap because the contract was based on points and not on a fixed salary, but Kimi scored so much that he ended up being more expensive than a fixed salary and almost broke them lol
@@chombus2602 As Alfie said, López might've underestimated how good the car would be and just how quickly Räikkönen would settle back into F1 after two years away. Surely they should've negotiated some adjustments over the winter so 2013 wouldn't compound the issue (of course, we know that it did), but then, Räikkönen was raking in the money by that point!
If it wasn't the contract that nearly bankrupted the team, 50k for every Championship Point Kimi's scored is one of the parts of the contract when he returned to F1 in 2012, on a 2-year deal. In those 2 years he's been with the team along with his 2 wins, he scored a grand total of 390 points in those 2 years x €50,000 per point = €19,500,000.
My trip to Bordeaux to visit a cousin of mine had unfortunately aligned with the club all but shutting down. This has been a very interesting time to be here, I’ve had the pleasure of talking to a couple of supporters and they’re still remaining hopeful despite all the doom and gloom. Taking in the football culture here is wonderful and I’m really pulling for them to rise from the ashes.
Considering the debt they are in I doubt that very much. They may not see professional football for 10-15, especially considering the DNCG are strict. Enforced relegation isn't a one off specifically for Bordeaux, bearing in mind they have no squad or staff. At the time of recording at least all they are is a name. They have very little in assets.
the new saints fc from the cymru premier are one game away from reaching a european competition, if they beat moldovan side Petrocub, they'll be guaranteed either europa league or europa conference. please make a video about the cymru premier as it is very interesting, but not many people pay attention to it
Well it started when Ange Postecoglou arrived and i just think its because he used to manage in the Japanese league so he has some knowledge, on those leagues, that other managers don't have.
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I don't know what Inverness and the Scottish league are thinking! I watched a Zealandism video about the guy who has just taken over at ICT and he seems to be a bit of a shady character! He has a string of failed or suspicious businesses and doesn't seem to have any financial clout!!
This is such a sad situation and I truly hope that Bordeaux can find new owners. No football club deserves to be destroyed because some spoilt rich boys fancied trying to play FIFA in real life
Thanks for the reporting. I'm so f*cking sad. I had no idea this was going on. I mean PSG, OM, Bordeaux, Lyon, AS Monaco I can't think of French football without those clubs at the top. The mere thought of Bordeaux falling out of D2 is giving me chills, and I don't care about football at all. I don't play, I don't watch. What must it be for an actual fan/supporter ? Trully horrifying. 😱
They're actually dropping to div 4. The real problem with French football is the monopolisation of PSG. Bordeaux's demise will give an opportunity to others, or least it should do
Pls do a video on players becoming club owners. It’s not only increasingly common among older players but active players too. The landscape overall even excluding that has changed a lot and it is an interesting topic.
I feel that French football is being bled by the Qatari owners. The involvement of Al-Khelaifi as PSG owner was clearly ruinous for other French clubs. Bordeaux is such an example.
probably not the direct cause of their demise, but it certainly does the league as a whole no good. It's definitely not very attractive to watch now because it's a formality that PSG should win by a landslide every season. But that's the tragedy of financially lopsided leagues as a whole. I wish those filthy rich people invested into entire leagues instead, not just a few clubs. Then you'd actually be able to have better competitiveness
Biggest problem france is littered with bad foreign owners, lyon,st etienne, Toulouse etc etc. Kings street were never interested in the team they just wanted to make quick money and within a couple of years refused to fund the club anymore but very little information about them too
Alfie, could you make a video about the rise of Como 1907? They are signing huge names like Raphael Varane and Andrea Belotti this summer after getting promoted from Serie B and their owners are one of the richest people in the world.
How Ligue 1 is still considered a “Top 5” league I will never understand. This insane mismanagement at Bordeaux hasn’t been seen before in Europe, this is the type of thing I’d expect to happen in China or India
@@tombo416 The FFF is corrupt, greedy and incompetent, especially with things like TV deals. How can you consider yourself to be a top 5 league when we are 2 weeks away from the season starting and you dont have a TV deal. The whole MediaPro deal is what has ruined pretty much the entire league apart from PSG. That is what put historic teams like Saint-Ettiene and Bordeaux into this trouble with more to follow
FAs really need to do real due diligence on owners, especially these investment and the like firms based in the USA. Oh and oil money, though some oil barons wont screw the club over, you still need to worry about the future of they do
France and Brazil are the only nations in the world to have dominated all men's 11-player competitions (World Cup, Olympics, U-20, U-17 and the defunct Confed Cup [whom the UEFA-CONMEBOL Finalissima claimed as Confed successor]). And they are altogether in crisis. Coincidence?
@@scaph_1909 Already they are since 2024, two years after Brazil. Their clubs are in poor shape sadly when PSG dictated. The Euro 2024 performance by France was abysmal, they reached the semis in a dull and extremely spiritless campaign.
Although my club is American owned & has done us well (Millwall) Its mote often a bad sign when your club is bought by an American. Fortunately John Berylson was great until his unfortunate accident.
I am the only one who did not understand the wording of the failure of the Amazon Prime deal? Did they pull out also, or was their rights fee not enough to sustain all the teams in Ligue 1? Alfie's writing is usually crystal clear, but not for me, not this time.
Is there no "fit and proper person" test for owning a football club in France? If there is, the bar must be set incredibly low if Gérard López was able to pass it.
Seems like most of Europe need to learn from how Real Madrid managed to squeeze all clubs from ever becoming competitive without draining resources 100%.
Real Madrid have government support a few years ago they sold there training stadium to the government who returned it to nothing. Plus huge tax evasion among other things. Real have the government backing same with Barca and also la Liga, la Liga destroyed there own league to give them all the money from advertising, marketing, winning money , bonuses. If granada had won the league this year , they would of made about 5% of what Barca and real made through league even table bonuses etc
I also think of Iran's football crisis in a similar way to France. Maybe Thai football crisis but Thailand has never appeared in a World Cup though. They are surprisingly similar: Iranian football is mismanaged from top to bottom, akin to France. Having watched Iran playing, they seem like invincible but beneath that lie their severe vulnerability, which if exploited, will make them so weak to respond. A video about the current golden generation of Iran and why Iran fans are worried of their future when they have no capable successor can be worth it.
Messing up financially everything also there by Gérard Lopez, I really fear a next video is coming up with a title of "What On Earth Is Going On At Boavista?"...
I hate seeing any football club collapse, regardless of who they are! This one has me very conflicted, my club has just signed Žan Vipotnik so I feel a horrible mix of sympathy, sadness, pity, glee optimism and relief 😮💨 😔🥳🤦♂️🤷♂️ So sorry Bordeaux......but, uppa #Swans 🦢 #YJB
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Imagine getting a What on Earth Part 2. That is when you know you have really messed up
That or You're Hull City
@@tohruberthon47 Or your club is owned by Gerard Lopez.
@@colonelfares3857 Or Peter Lim
Reading FC "hold my beer"
For the record, Bordeaux is still alive, but barely. They have just been relagated to the 4th tier of French football yesterday
Yh sill playing but in the 3th division of France
@@liamodonnellsunderlandafct5577 Fourth. The FFF denied them the ability to play in the 3rd
@lucaslonchampt613 going from a professional outfit to an amateur one is effectively hitting the reset button and the club being reborn. Whilst the history and heritage of Bordeaux may continue, the previous version of the club is effectively dead to the majority of people.
Didn’t they release all the players contracted to the club as well so they have no players?
A club run by accountants now
Been watching for 20 minutes and Alfie is still introducing the video 😂
Any F1 fans that remember the revival of Lotus F1 can tell you how much of a menace the Bordeaux owner is.
And both were french
(yeah, I know that the original Lotus was british, but that Lotus 2 was in fact Renault)
It doesn't help that Alpine butchered the last great memory of that revived Lotus team by slapping their godawful current livery over the iconic black one.
@@chombus2602Lotus was based in Enstone (UK) and in their final season they used Mercedes engines (also made in the UK). Nothing about it was French.
@@chombus2602 Confusingly, Renault’s F1 team were (and are) based in England because they took over Benetton, who took over Toleman. Toleman competed against a French based Renault team back in the 80s.
The fact they ended up having the actual race cars at one point impounded by bailiffs after a race and were visited by the BBCs Can't Pay Won't Pay must surely give as a low points
I’m Brazilian meaning that I default to hatred forwards all things France courtesy of 1986, 1998 and 2006 losses which prevented us from being 8-time World Cup winners already BUT I put the health and progress of the game above all petty rivalries and hatreds. My heart goes out to Bordeaux and all its people, staff, squads and supporters alike. 🖤
I'm brazilian too and remember a lot of brazilian players playing for Bordeaux in 2000s
Loads of fantastic Brazilian players in French Football. Juninho. Rai. Sonny Anderson. Ronaldhino. Claudio Caçapa.
As an English man we are required to dislike the french from birth but it's a sad day when any football club struggles due to off field problem's 😢
You've got to give the rest of us a chance pal!
@@pbplauralfilms go ahead, sir! Take all the chances you need. 🫡
As a Bordeaux fan this is the most attention we've had online in decades, but I wish we could go back into obscurity...
If your club and fans want it enough, you will rise again, and your greatest dreams could be realised. This is not fantasy. I am a Manchester City fan. In 1999, we were in the third tier of English football, and almost went into administration that season. We have all seen what has happened since. In football, dreams can become reality, and many clubs have risen from the ashes. I greatly hope that this happens for Bordeaux.
"May you live in interesting times"
@@stevenmacdonald9619 All you need is one of those saudi raagheads so they can use the kit to advertise their shitty airline, or a russian oligarch. Or maybe become Red Bull Bordeaux.
Hope you get back on your feet. Bordeaux is a fantastic club with tons of history.
@@stevenmacdonald9619so what you mean is you need a gulf take over? Easy.
Barcelona still owe them €18 million from the Malcom deal… that would have paid off most of the club’s immediate debts. One of the best academies in men’s football, one of France’s most fantastic clubs… just gone.
It's probably amortisation?
makes me dislike my club (Barca) more. we stole him from Roma just to waste his talent 🤦♂️ retarded ownership
Barca always dodgey as hell same with real but of course FIFA darlings 💰💰
To be fair, Barca is so desperate that they are probably willing to owe the homeless for some money.
Yeah I've never understood this, can anyone explain this to me? Barca especially bad for this not paying full fees for players like...wtf?? My guess is simple corruption and bias but please if I'm wrong, correct me!
I feel like this would be equivalent to Athletico Madrid or Napoli going completely bankrupt and relegated
It actually happened to Napoli, in the early 2000s. They started from the 4th tier
@@antonellogiannuzzi6609oh damn didn’t even know that. I assume that felt like the same situation as this
@@bababababababa6124it was. There is still hope for Bordeaux to bounce back, but French football in general is a joke and I won’t be surprised if they are unable to
@@bababababababa6124 yeah serie A in the early 2000 was crazy in general. The league was close to bankruptcy and a few years later, calciopoli happened
@@antonellogiannuzzi6609yeah, I remember Fiorentina downfall too
I'm starting to think that I might be a jinx! My favourite Italian team is Parma, my favourite German team is Kaiserslautern, and my favourite French team is Bordeaux, all of whom I have been following since the early 90s!!
Are you also a fan of Paris St.Germain and FC Barcelona by any chance ? 😏
Just don't say you like Chelsea and we're cool. We can destroy ourselves easily without any outside jinxes, thanks.
@@guguy00sounds like this guy should be Chelsea biggest fan would be hilarious if this happened to them😂
@@guguy00, you're in luck, my favourite English team is Oldham😁!! Nah, just effing with you, it's Liverpool!!
@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 We don't need a jinx. Todd and Eghbali are enough is me point!
I really love your pronounciation of french words and names. Always good but never perfect, we hear the effort you put and thank you for it!
Trois
Bordeaux has downgraded from a savory experience to becoming a cheap wine.
Similar to French wine in the last 20 years. Everything is in poor taste out there and only the name has any value, for now at least
I'll say this channel deserves each and every one of its subscribers (and probably deserves more). Quality journalism/investigation, presentation and love the cheeky humor. Been enjoying your content for a while now - in today's football TH-cam, this is gold.
Keep them coming, Alfie!
Brutal AI voice ruins it for me
'the 08/09 season, just 15 years ago' made me feel sick icl
Funnily enough, the only French football Match ive been to was Bordeaux vs a Hungarian side in the Europa league. You used pictures from that match in this video! What a difference 7 years can make in football
As a Spanish, I feel sad for Bordeaux, they were in this breaking point of no return.
On the other hand, I still see France a formidable foe and perhaps the only one at the moment. France isn't in the situation like Italy and there is a distinction. Italy self-destructed with their corruption, conservatism and inability to reform (hell even people considered Italy's chance to qualify for 2026 World Cup to be bleak); whereas France has radically reformed for years for the better with their formidable academies. In some way I have to say merci for giving us Robin Le Normand and Aymeric Laporte.
I won't shed a tear if Italy's World Cup hurt will extend to even 2038 or 2042, but I will cry a lot if France fails to qualify.
Myabe Italy should learn from France and suck the African continent dry of any talent remaining.
Well we can't say a thing about Laporte and Lenormand when we have the Hernández brothers playing in the France squad or even Luis Fernandez in the 80s. Different life stories, of course. These probably had relatives who ran away from Franco's dictatorship at some point, I guess. But even if you think of Antoine Giezmann, he's 100% a product of Spanish football. He barely played in France.
La Liga has had their fair share of financial struggles starting from the top of the pyramid with Barcelona and Real Madrid. There's something healthy about keeping a strict financial control over football clubs.
I have a friend from the Mouscron area. Even though he isn't a massive football fan, seeing his local team be destroyed was heartbreaking. How he got any more business is wild
I was expecting this one, a remastered version from 2022! Merci beaucoup Alfie!
All the traditional biggest French clubs such as Bordeaux' St Etienne' Lyon and even Marseille are living off the scraps of PSG which none of them can compete with the financial resources at the Qataris disposal which is killing all the other teams in the league and is only going to get worse such is the financial might of PSG compared to every other French team
Yeah financially it is basically a monopoly. PSG could easily buy all of their rivals best players and stick them on the bench if they so wished. It's really not fun without at the very least one other team of comparable finances, but they have like 5-10 times the cash of the next one in line
No one wants to watch a league where there is only one winner
@@joecurran2811Which is how the Premier League is going.
@@EnforcerX71 I agree
What about 7 players with palindromic careers? Like Buffon who played for Parma, Juventus, PSG, Juventus, and Parma
Gérard López, now that's a name I haven't heard in a while. When he bought into Lotus, the team was still Renault, and he'd bought in after Renault sold their stake in the team in the wake of Crashgate. Lotus started sponsoring the team in 2011, with the team officially being known as Lotus Renault GP (but everyone still called them Renault). Then they became the Lotus F1 team in 2012. The bonus payment debacle came to the fore towards the end of the 2013 season, when Kimi Räikkönen considered not racing in Abu Dhabi because of the dispute, then did race, and then sat out the final couple of races in America and Brazil to have back surgery. Funnily enough, he left for Ferrari for 2014. By the time 2015 came around, the team was in a fair bit of debt and performance had slipped quite badly. In fact, at the Belgian GP that season, where Romain Grosjean scored the team's only podium finish of the year, the team had bailiffs temporarily seize their cars and equipment after the race due to a payment dispute with their former test driver Charles Pic. A few weeks later in Japan, they were locked out of their hospitality unit due to unpaid payments towards the race organisers from the 2014 event!
I love the fact that Lotus thought Kimi would be cheap because the contract was based on points and not on a fixed salary, but Kimi scored so much that he ended up being more expensive than a fixed salary and almost broke them lol
@@chombus2602 As Alfie said, López might've underestimated how good the car would be and just how quickly Räikkönen would settle back into F1 after two years away. Surely they should've negotiated some adjustments over the winter so 2013 wouldn't compound the issue (of course, we know that it did), but then, Räikkönen was raking in the money by that point!
If it wasn't the contract that nearly bankrupted the team, 50k for every Championship Point Kimi's scored is one of the parts of the contract when he returned to F1 in 2012, on a 2-year deal. In those 2 years he's been with the team along with his 2 wins, he scored a grand total of 390 points in those 2 years x €50,000 per point = €19,500,000.
Yoann Gourcuff mentioned raaaaahhh 🔥🔥🔥
My trip to Bordeaux to visit a cousin of mine had unfortunately aligned with the club all but shutting down. This has been a very interesting time to be here, I’ve had the pleasure of talking to a couple of supporters and they’re still remaining hopeful despite all the doom and gloom. Taking in the football culture here is wonderful and I’m really pulling for them to rise from the ashes.
I think a video on Chamois Niortais potentially being completely liquidated as well would be great, sad to see so many French clubs struggling.
They've always been at the verge of professionnal and amateur football.
I will still take more than 5 years for them to be back to get on track of improvement. So sad 😢
Considering the debt they are in I doubt that very much. They may not see professional football for 10-15, especially considering the DNCG are strict. Enforced relegation isn't a one off specifically for Bordeaux, bearing in mind they have no squad or staff. At the time of recording at least all they are is a name. They have very little in assets.
Opportunity for other teams
the new saints fc from the cymru premier are one game away from reaching a european competition, if they beat moldovan side Petrocub, they'll be guaranteed either europa league or europa conference. please make a video about the cymru premier as it is very interesting, but not many people pay attention to it
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate how flawlessly alfie promounced the clubs full name 💯
MediaPro has a long history of signing and screwing contracts. Why do they still exist?
They don't they went under I'm 2021 I believe
We also had some kind of same story with Vitesse in the Netherlands. But they have gotten a new license from the KNVB today.
Alfie can you make a video on why Celtic sign so many Japanese and Korean players?
It can't just be coincidence
I would like to see this as well
They are probably a lot cheaper than European talent...
Well it started when Ange Postecoglou arrived and i just think its because he used to manage in the Japanese league so he has some knowledge, on those leagues, that other managers don't have.
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I don't know what Inverness and the Scottish league are thinking! I watched a Zealandism video about the guy who has just taken over at ICT and he seems to be a bit of a shady character! He has a string of failed or suspicious businesses and doesn't seem to have any financial clout!!
@@michaelward5370 we shall see if Scottish FA allow this new ownership to happen.
Most likely they won’t, you would think.
An Eric Clapton fan?
@@BALHAM69 , I hope that they investigate this guy, he seems totally dodgy!!
This is such a sad situation and I truly hope that Bordeaux can find new owners. No football club deserves to be destroyed because some spoilt rich boys fancied trying to play FIFA in real life
I watched the original video yesterday, perfect timing
This will make a brilliant FM25 save, at least.
Every single FM player's reaction to this news. 😂
I was hoping this would drop soon. Of course you made one.
My early fifa days were career modes with Bordeaux. What a shame
The quality of your analysis is insane.
Thanks for the reporting. I'm so f*cking sad. I had no idea this was going on. I mean PSG, OM, Bordeaux, Lyon, AS Monaco I can't think of French football without those clubs at the top. The mere thought of Bordeaux falling out of D2 is giving me chills, and I don't care about football at all. I don't play, I don't watch. What must it be for an actual fan/supporter ? Trully horrifying. 😱
They're actually dropping to div 4. The real problem with French football is the monopolisation of PSG. Bordeaux's demise will give an opportunity to others, or least it should do
@@joecurran2811 Thanks for the info. As I said, I don't watch soccer. D4 ? It's worse than I thought.
Pls do a video on players becoming club owners. It’s not only increasingly common among older players but active players too. The landscape overall even excluding that has changed a lot and it is an interesting topic.
Please do what’s going on at Morecambe
Next do ‘what the earth is going on at Corinthians’ please
🤣
I feel that French football is being bled by the Qatari owners. The involvement of Al-Khelaifi as PSG owner was clearly ruinous for other French clubs. Bordeaux is such an example.
lmao everything to blame qatar huh ? French clubs are run by trash people that's all.
probably not the direct cause of their demise, but it certainly does the league as a whole no good. It's definitely not very attractive to watch now because it's a formality that PSG should win by a landslide every season. But that's the tragedy of financially lopsided leagues as a whole. I wish those filthy rich people invested into entire leagues instead, not just a few clubs. Then you'd actually be able to have better competitiveness
@@maciejbala477 Same thing with Germany unfortunately.
Bordeaux ruined themselves though.
Multiple times too
Will you please make a video about football at the olympics?
Its sad to see a major club dying out
I was expecting this video after learning the club's demise
Haha the harry redknapp line got me!! Haha
Biggest problem france is littered with bad foreign owners, lyon,st etienne, Toulouse etc etc. Kings street were never interested in the team they just wanted to make quick money and within a couple of years refused to fund the club anymore but very little information about them too
What the hell is happening at Ossett United, please.
This guys voice is mesmerizing
Hey Alfie, as a French native, "Le Groupe M6" is pronounced just like in English, Group M6 , the E is silent ☺️☺️
Any time you see the words "bought by a private equity firm", be afraid
Unless they are sports specialists
Seems like they French FA bear some of the blame for accepting the Media Pro deal when it seemed too good to be true
And also clubs like Barca who owe millions
Alfie, could you make a video about the rise of Como 1907? They are signing huge names like Raphael Varane and Andrea Belotti this summer after getting promoted from Serie B and their owners are one of the richest people in the world.
thanks for the update
Babe wake up new What on Earth video dropped
How Ligue 1 is still considered a “Top 5” league I will never understand. This insane mismanagement at Bordeaux hasn’t been seen before in Europe, this is the type of thing I’d expect to happen in China or India
@@tombo416 The FFF is corrupt, greedy and incompetent, especially with things like TV deals. How can you consider yourself to be a top 5 league when we are 2 weeks away from the season starting and you dont have a TV deal. The whole MediaPro deal is what has ruined pretty much the entire league apart from PSG. That is what put historic teams like Saint-Ettiene and Bordeaux into this trouble with more to follow
To be fair Serie A and La Liga have seen collapses like this before, but not to this magnitude and to such a previously dominant club
@@nealrigga6969 Napoli went bankrupt around 20 years ago and went down to Serie C. That is probably the only comparison
@@nathanb286 Fiorentina and Parma are good examples too
I mean, I think it's clearly falling in standing right now. Even Portugal overtook it for a bit not long ago. There's effectively a top 4
The only thing I know about Bordeaux is the lovely dinner wine.
Could you do something on Standard Liege? They just lost their ownership and are tipped for relegation.
Have one question, how/who keeps approving the Lopez deals to buy sports teams. It’s always ending one way.
I pray for the fans of Bordeaux.
.......And this is one, among many reasons you'll never, ever see relegation in MLS!
But clubs have ended instead
Folding still happens though, like the Tampa Bay Rowdies or Chivas USA.
FAs really need to do real due diligence on owners, especially these investment and the like firms based in the USA. Oh and oil money, though some oil barons wont screw the club over, you still need to worry about the future of they do
France and Brazil are the only nations in the world to have dominated all men's 11-player competitions (World Cup, Olympics, U-20, U-17 and the defunct Confed Cup [whom the UEFA-CONMEBOL Finalissima claimed as Confed successor]). And they are altogether in crisis. Coincidence?
France as a whole isn't exactly in crisis
@@scaph_1909 Already they are since 2024, two years after Brazil. Their clubs are in poor shape sadly when PSG dictated. The Euro 2024 performance by France was abysmal, they reached the semis in a dull and extremely spiritless campaign.
@@diomuda7903 i half agree
Argentina too, I think (they won the Confederations Cup predecessor)
@@chombus2602 Yes, but Argentina has never won the U17 World Cup however. In fact they had never reached the final in this competition at all.
Concerning American asset management companies: not only do they not know what they’re doing, they don’t care.
Wasn't expecting Ted Bundy to get a shout out
Although my club is American owned & has done us well (Millwall) Its mote often a bad sign when your club is bought by an American. Fortunately John Berylson was great until his unfortunate accident.
I agree. I'm a Sunderland fan and we had Ellis Short. Couldn't have known less about football.
@@joecurran2811 Millwall's got lucky with this.
There's no correlation between the two things but I really hope it was due changing those historical Puma kits for the generical Adidas ones
Almost any club would be lucky to have Fenway buy them. All right minded fans here in Boston know that.
10:51 "maybe this suspicion will be proven wrong one day" - this guy has humor.😊
Regards from Germany 🙂
Have been waiting for this video. I’m sure Bordeaux will be back, they’re too big not to be.
Rip to A team formed in 1881, no more FC Girondins de Bordeaux 😮
There sill here just in the 3th division
@@liamodonnellsunderlandafct5577 Lucas in comments say fourth tier Division League, we shall see.
Fc Bordeaux are in a bad situation.
@@BALHAM69there in Thrid division it's go them in it on flashscore
Everyone begging for their local support club to be featured on this channel. Leave the guy alone
I am the only one who did not understand the wording of the failure of the Amazon Prime deal? Did they pull out also, or was their rights fee not enough to sustain all the teams in Ligue 1? Alfie's writing is usually crystal clear, but not for me, not this time.
Private equity firms buying your club is a death sentence.
Clubs get milked for what little profit you can get out of one.
Sad that things like this happen
Im betting alot of people's fm25 save is gonna be bringing Bordeaux back to glory.
Accurate and honest ! Merci !
Sad to see this to see a giant of French Football.
I was using them in Fifa Online 2.
Is this completely new video or updated version of the old one?
Completely new commentary but it'll be based on the older video initially
Can we get a Fenerbache video please ??
It's a sad world we live in when people like Gerard Lopez can be rich and "successful". Horrible horrible horrible. People like that shouldn't exist.
Is there no "fit and proper person" test for owning a football club in France? If there is, the bar must be set incredibly low if Gérard López was able to pass it.
What did 777 do wrong at Red Star? Ideologically incompatible sure but they got promoted this season?
That dude is a real piece of work!
If they're not careful, this could have been Chelsea in 10 years time with all that American private equity shenanigans
I can tell you it's a total nightmare !!
fucking makes me want to cry.
Seems like most of Europe need to learn from how Real Madrid managed to squeeze all clubs from ever becoming competitive without draining resources 100%.
I have a feel that Real Madrid will face something like what Manchester United is facing since Ferguson depart when Florentino retires or dies
Real Madrid have government support a few years ago they sold there training stadium to the government who returned it to nothing. Plus huge tax evasion among other things. Real have the government backing same with Barca and also la Liga, la Liga destroyed there own league to give them all the money from advertising, marketing, winning money , bonuses. If granada had won the league this year , they would of made about 5% of what Barca and real made through league even table bonuses etc
I also think of Iran's football crisis in a similar way to France. Maybe Thai football crisis but Thailand has never appeared in a World Cup though. They are surprisingly similar: Iranian football is mismanaged from top to bottom, akin to France. Having watched Iran playing, they seem like invincible but beneath that lie their severe vulnerability, which if exploited, will make them so weak to respond.
A video about the current golden generation of Iran and why Iran fans are worried of their future when they have no capable successor can be worth it.
you should make a video about how lyon went from being irrelevant to suddenly winning 7 titles in a row
Messing up financially everything also there by Gérard Lopez, I really fear a next video is coming up with a title of "What On Earth Is Going On At Boavista?"...
They are also my FM25 save now!
This is the damage PSG have done to French football.
I hate seeing any football club collapse, regardless of who they are! This one has me very conflicted, my club has just signed Žan Vipotnik so I feel a horrible mix of sympathy, sadness, pity, glee optimism and relief 😮💨 😔🥳🤦♂️🤷♂️
So sorry Bordeaux......but, uppa #Swans 🦢 #YJB
When you have TWO “what in the hell is going on” episodes you know it’s gone really really wrong
"Florida Egdy Fund" is a new slang term for scam.
Couldn't someone now buy Bordeaux without any financial liability?
Did anyone know what is going on at nimes olympics 😢
Could the french rugby union national team move into the stade de Bordeaux stadium since the Bordeaux FC is no more
Lopes is like that meme of the grim reaper going door to door killing clubs leaving a trail of blood in his wake. What a disaster of an owner.
With the ammounf of money involved in football, its a disgrace that this can happen to communities