How Man Utd have improved tactically under Ten Hag
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It seems a long time ago that Manchester United were struggling to get points under Erik ten Hag at the beginning of the season. Since then, they've started competing in fixtures against teams across the league.
Jon Mackenzie explains how Manchester United have become more flexible and how it allows them to compete in all of their games.
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I’m not trying to make any grand statements about how good we are or what we need to do, just as a man United fan it’s nice to have fun watching games again. This team just plays differently and with an effort from the players and the manager that is just a really fantastic change of pace
I totally agree man! There's an air of hope around. We aren't going to win the league anytime soon, but It genuinely feels like we are finally building in the right direction
@@gw4817 To be honest even during Mourinho's first season it felt like we were going in the right direction and so did during Van Gaal's first season. I am very apprehensive this time around and would only judge the players bought or the manager after 3 seasons.
Agreed!!! I honestly can remember feeling like it was a prison sentence having to watch them play but look, we have to support them thru the bad times as much as we love the glory times. It's why we're Utd fans. If you just want the fake glory, go support man city. But we're Man Utd, were embedded in blood to this club. Men would ditch women for this great club. But we wouldn't pick oil over it eh. A club inspired by massive tragic events, such as, Chapeconese(air flight disaster) where a plane load of tbe football club was lost. No matter what these plastic clubs like man city, PSG, Newcastle do in the future. Remember all their joy was obtained via OIL money while the likes of Man Utd, arsenal, liverpool and others done it the decent ethical way. Same cannot be ever said about a club playing real life FM "editor mode". Such a farce.... RIP Football '22.
@@gouravghosh588 said like a man who hasnt a jot about ten hags background. Please tell me your 7 years old. It would help my mind think we haven't mature autistic fans if so... Thanks.
That's exactly the point made by Eyejax from WeTalk Ajax who made guest appearances on United View with Flex earlier this year, and was what convinced Flex (and me) about why Ten Hag would be the right guy for Man Utd - making football fun to watch and making us love the team again.
Grind a point against chelsea? We basically outplayed them inside their own ground. They even had to make a tactical change in the 1st half, just to cope. And even with a stupid penalty conceded, we still managed to get a point in the end.
If Chelsea won that it would have been massively undeserved. A draw was the least United deserved.
He supports Leeds
Keep crying, that was always a penalty. You can't reenact brokeback mountain in the penalty area and expect to get away with it. Graham Potter totally screwed up in the first half though, and cucurella has been awful so far
@@superwario2741 yeah Chelsea were godawful in the first half hour
@@Hugh_Amungus
Stupid doesn't necessarily mean it was unfair. It was a stupid, avoidable foul from McTominay.
Players like Dalot needs to be highlighted more for their constant contributions !
Indeed. There's a reason he's played so many of the minutes available. There simply isn't anyone in the team to replace him.
@@faichaimond agreed! He is turning into a KDB type player for Man U
True. He made some crucial interceptions and clearances for yesterday's game against West Ham.
@@faichaimond it actually worries me our club is notorious for doing this. Hopefully we don't get another rashford situation with dalot.
@@caeles7744 whats that situation exactly? Dalot is performing, he should be praised. Like rashford was praised when he performed.
Anyone else think this kind analysis is better than what you would see on sky sports?
this is way better than at sky sports because these people are actually analists
Yeah it is but sky sports has to cater to a wider audience and a lot of viewers aren't interested in deeper analysis.
I watch Tifo for analysis and Sky Sport for comedy.
Both are great for it's own.
I know for sure lol
It is...but sometimes I just want to be dumb and listen to Roy Keane complain about players not running around enough
Considering the limitations of our squad I’m really impressed with how Ten Hag’s getting the most out of what he’s got at his disposal.
Yeah the bench was dead today, out of form sancho and mcfred
True but .. its an underperforming nonetheless super expensive squad like probably close to the most expensive assembled squad in the league .
@@dont5363 thats irrelevant when we have idiots in charge of recruitment. If me and you were buying players the squad we would assemble would be gash
@@dont5363 wouldn’t call it underperforming, we were 6th last year and even lucky to have finished there. I’d confidently back us to finish 3rd/4th at the lowest this season and only disappointing results we’ve had were the first 2 when we didn’t have Casemiro and Ten Hag wrongly assumed he could trust Maguire. It’s baby steps, he still needs a couple of transfer windows before I start placing title aspirations on us
@@BigPurp9 facts as a city fan i agree i think u finish 3rd this year and if city of Arsenal drop off , crazier things have happened but ETH is a leader , keep faith in the man
Tactics are one thing, but what ETH needs the most credit for is how he’s motivated this team. Dalots celebrating every block like a last minute winner.
i never thought dalot was really that good
From comments of players, it seems he properly communicates what he wants from each of them. Like Rashford heading. Degea trying to sweep.
Only sancho looks lost tbh.
@@acoknitteruntemha he was deff iffy the past few years but I think he massively improved this season to be fair
@@pokegidam he wasn't been getting a fair chance in the last 2 seasons
lol now
Ancelotti is one of the greatest mangers ever and doesn’t reach have one style of play. His style is adaptability and flexibility. That is why Real was so successful last year despite going down several times.
We are here to talk about Erik Ten Hagg.🔥🔥
@@BJackson. He's still talking about ten Hag. He's just showing how ten Hag's flexibility helps, by showing how successful Ancelotti has been with a similar approach.
@@joelgriffin8222 thanks Joel,, now the man is on my side.
@@BJackson. some other funny coach☠️
@@BJackson. Funny coach? Don Carlo?
What a manager this guy is ETH
The millions of pounds he's spent helps
@@nightman_cometh9367 The previous managers also spent millions and that didn’t help.
And at Ajax he had an complete overhaul of players. He created 2 amazing teams
The scary thing for me is how quickly ETH has turned us around. Give this man a few more transfer windows and I think we could really really challenge. This man understands how to set a team up as he is first and foremost a coach. Couple this with his eye for a player and we have a real chance of ending this period without a PL title.
He is famous for building teams and developing youth player. I really hope he could nurture our academy the way he did in ajax to produce qualities like Donny, dejong, deligt and more
i think a huge thing as well is were getting points against the other top 10. we now get wins against the bottom 10 and in a great position to get a secured CL spot.
the players bought in have really allowed ETH flexibility and Martinez has been an utter rock at the back really allows ETH to swap his style
It's the low blocks which have given us trouble..we lack conversion
It’s the basics and the simple things that they’re doing well (mostly). Staying in shape, high tempo, defending in 11, more midfield control, winning their second balls and duels. There’s still an element of gung ho football in phases, but most of the other stuff looks well planned and well laid out. From a tactical pov, I think Eriksen, Casemiro, Dalot, Martinez, Varane, and Shaw have given us a proper structure and control in the middle which means the attacking players can flourish.
Last night against west ham there were none second balls won basically that's why utd struggled a bit and ten hag brought mc tominay in for that reason
The thing is that the attacking players aren’t really flourishing like they should. The same counts for Chelsea though.
@@KhalidAli-mw4hd first half we were in control, had more of the ball and we’re counter pressing well. Second half it was a bit about us losing the ball in the second phase of buildup but we still were putting in tackles and defending well. Can’t expect a team that was absolutely shite 3 months ago to perform like ManCity week in week out. 9 games across 28 days is a lot given we’ve only played 15-16 players in rotation.
@@jotarokujo9587 or rather its still a work in progress for building and finishing attacks.
They get balls in final third and then make absolute rubbish decision on the ball
@@jotarokujo9587 trust me, United are better than Chelsea in every way right now. They just got very lucky in that 1 -1 draw. Should have been a rout like man City did with United.
It's early days for Ten Hag and as a United fan im really happy with the progress so far. I expect it to be a bumpy ride still (as we saw with the city result). But if he's made this much progress with the current team and not changing the personnel much then wow can you imagine how good we will be in 1/2 years once we start getting more of his desired players in. Exciting times and the way we move the ball is so good. This guy clearly is the right manager for us.
Do you think he will get same backing next window?
Mourinho got Pogba Lukaku and co. In his first season and then dipped badly.
Don't get hopes high with either the manager or the owner
@@aniketprasad3128 this is the big talking point I guess. Of course we don't trust the glazers. I think if ETH gets us into top 4 there's a risk they won't give him the extra funds to spend further as they think settling for top4 champions league is good enough when realistically we should be pushing towards title charge progression year by year.
Ten Hag is the saviour United fans needed. Hes got the dressing ego's in check within a few months(which was the biggest challenge).. He's got every player playing with intensity.. his signings have been fantastic. He clearly experiments with different ways to progress and win.. BOSSSSS
Ten Hag is reviving Dutch's Total Football. He is a tactical genius.
modern football is essentially based on total football. So, it has never died
Blah blah blah! A tactical genius by spending £200m. Typical utd trying AGAIN to spend themselves to the big time, which won't happen as there are way better sides out there now! Deluded bunch.......
@@GrantMC100 After over 10 players leave lol. Wtf do you expect in modern football? He improved the team with every signing.
@@GrantMC100 Even Pep needs hundreds of millions to succeed
@@GrantMC100 why bother watching these kind of videos if you’re not gonna learn anything from them and make ignorant, non insightful comments
In absence of Antony, Sancho should play on the right flank where he performed superbly in the pre-season for the team.
I think so. Antony and Sancho for RW. Rashford and Garnacho/ Elanga for LW
Harry maguires lack of pace, flat feet when receiving the ball,positioning and passing was a serious issue in the first half. De Gea saved him a few times. He also should not be captain
His instance to take multiple touches to advance the ball drives me nuts. He typically gets caught in possession or gets pressed so hard he has to make a dramatic backpass to the other centre back/DDG
You should let ETH sort out the problems -its his job- and all you amateurs should keep quiet.
Seriously what the hell was Ole thinking when he gave Maguire the captaincy
@@SimonGlobetrotter yh nobody should have any opinions on football except the managers. What kind of dumb comment is this? 😂 fans are allowed to express their opinion on football. In fact, it’s a massive part of ALL sports
Hopefully he has a good world cup, we sell him on in the summer while limiting his game time in a United shirt for the rest of the season. He is such a donkey, pushed out on numerous occasions, failed to win the ball, left big gaps in behind.
I like how all the players are aware and concentrated when playing under ten Hag. And he has done very well using these to achieve the style he wants
Great content! You should really consider programming in an option to move groups of players, rather than one and one all of the time, on that app of yours 👍
Maguire is descent centre back but yesterday he showed that why he doesn't suits the system he starts hitting long balls and lacks pace.
He's hopeless in build up play , too slow and not even a good passer but he can be a squad player like he showed yesterday against big opponents heading away dangerous crosses .
Give the man a break, he played well yesterday
brilliant both TenHag and the analysis
Ten hags flexibility is the key. Just check out de gae. Initially he asked him to play out from the back. Then when it didn't work he was asked to play long. Now that we are more comfortable in procession we're are again playing out from the back.
I am thoroughly impressed with ETH...hope he gets supported with good transfers as well
The team is still a work in progress but I think it’s clear ETH is a manager can build around. Like how adaptable he’s been with what he’s got.
Today they weren’t as crisp but they ground out a league win with Ronaldo and Maguire in the lineup.
We're in a good run of form at the moment, but like everything it will inevitably end. I think if we can finish top 4 and have a good run in the Europa league then that would be an incredible first season for ten hag!
Spot on analysis, I think our finishing and scoring is still rusty, rashford and Ronaldo aren't scoring enough, with martial injured so much as well
Idk if the system of the touch screen is custom made, but if so i think a button to drag all the squad would be appreciated, or even explore a preset of positions
It's tedious to watch you drag these players individually
ETH is a tactically astute manager who more often than not gets the tactics right.
TenHag is a very good and tactical coach
We are loving the positives and the “absolutes”.
Great analysis. One common problem with Manchester United is they need to move the ball quickly, from back to front, to beat the low or high block.
Please lose the music. No need of it.
Definitely made it harder to hear this video
Agree!
Song name?
Hello guys, can u talk about the Union Berlim? ty
Thank you! Great job
I'm your biggest fan Jon but I thought the scope of this on was a little too wide to cover the detail properly. Still enjoyed it. I'd really love a more in depth breakdown of Spurs automations to get out from the back, and a more detailed breakdown of Ten Hags pressing system. Effectively pressing Spurs is very impressive
It's a good spell we're going through but the difference this time is that you feel its being built on a more solid foundation..
Really enjoyed this video
It is really amazing how Potter managed to turn the situation around at just 32th min. Otherwise, it would have been an overwhelming win for ManU.
As a ManU fan, we can say that the team is much more solid this year under Ten Hag. But we really need more incisive play and precision at the top of the pitch to be a complete team.
Defence and midfield is good, just need an effective finisher
Against spurs we had problem with chance creation? What? We literally would’ve won 5-0/6-0 if Rashford hit his balls into the corners. Lloris had a superb outing. It wasn’t chance creation, but the finishing.
Ten hag hasn't been in charge for even 6 months yet. It has a high chance of getting better as time goes on, especially as currently a few players like sancho need to improve and martial hasn't been fit who is probably our best striker. That will make a lot of difference in our attack which is lacking a bit.
erilsen is showing his importance and he is showing why we were so bad last year. Once we make the defensive changes of mcfred with casemiro its to shut up shop. eriksen also takes pressure off Bruno to create everything letting him make runs in behind and giving him more space for the passes he wants to make
Mackenzie repping the Square Ball clobber like a proper Leeds hipster.
Against West Ham,United gets sloppier as the game goes on.We were basically held in our own half for the 2nd half.But it was a litmus test for our back 4 and the defense really wins the game for United.Ten Hag does not seem pretty happy despite the result as well.
"Attack wins games but defense wins titles"
Watching this a year later is really interesting because I can still recognise these systems and this style in how they play now. But the problems discussed at the end of the video haven't been resolved and the personnel in the rest defence has been weakened through injuries and a deteriorating Casemiro.
The team has struggled to score goals through their pressing, they've struggled to create chances for Hojlund, they've struggled to create breakaway chances for Rashford, and inevitably end up playing more direct, throwing more players forward, and having the rest defence just try to delay counters instead of dealing with them.
It's a whole team problem, that starts with how poor the available back 5 have been at playing out and creating attacks, continues with how poor the front 5 have been at turning attacks into meaningful chances, and finishes with how poor the back 5 are at dealing with transitions.
Newcastle and United are flying under the radar, tbh. Newcastle are getting a bit of recognition lately but most are still sleeping on United.
I just hope we can sustain some growth in our performances without a consistent lineup.
Maguire is still a considerable weakness
Shaw is a great example- he’s playing hard, excelling, and even manages to crack a smile every once in a while now - and all of this after it looked like his United career might be over
It's so refreshing to see midfielders pass the ball forwards with purpose, intelligence and perfectly weighted. Martinez is an excellent purchase, great defender, so good on the ball (better version of Daley Blind from Van Gaal's time). Dalot is looking very good now. We are still short of suitable back up for our 1st choice midfield. This will be our achilles heel until youngsters are purchased/developed as neither McTominay nor Fred are that (I cower when they're both on the field together). Ideally, we need one for each role so they can learn off of each of Casemiro, Eriksen & Fernandes. That way we won't look so bad when 2 of those 3 are subbed each match (see Chelsea, West Ham, our Europa matches).
Ten Haag has made a great start, I just hope he isn't left high and dry by the parasites that own the club.
What about Savage and Iqbal? Watching them in preseason, I thought they were already better on the ball than McTominay and Fred
We dropped points in the first two games. I wouldn’t call that “left right and centre”
This guy and tifo in general hate man united. Notice how they made a video on almost all utd games except Spurs where there was nothing to criticise. Its shambles actually. And the guy in this video is a big fat bald hater
This man is very good at football analysis. Excellent!
to the points of the Chelsea spurs games. conte stuck with his 532 with 3 purely defensive minded cms.
Chelsea were different were they were struggling but once potter changed their formation taking off cucharella for kovacic they match up better and arguably they got the better of us in the second half/ at minimum more joy
Thanks john, wouldn’t have seen this if was anyone else. JJ
Top notch content, as always
He is doing a tremendous job considering the crap he needs to fix.. but I'm afraid not even pep can make maguire play well..
Maguire is actually a good CB, he's just better suited playing in teams that use a mid and a low block. He's far too slow to play in a team that uses a high line and heavily presses. That's why he plays well for England but not for Man U
Next season will be good ol' kick and rush.
Tactics Board needs a "GROUP" feature for player icons > teams.
While the general Tifo analysis about the United vs Spurs game has been largely correct, I just wish they had factored in that spurs couldn’t play another way because of injuries. They needed to go with 3 midfielders. They couldn’t have an aerial presence against the United back line as Richarlison was injured. So, usually what conte does against sides that press high is that he plays long balls/passes into the strikers. Son isn’t good aerially and Kane, while usually decent, wasn’t targeted as much. If Richarlison was fit, Spurs would’ve had that long hall option.
Alternatively, had Kulusevski been fit, Spurs could have worked around the press. The right hand side of Bentancur, Kulusevski, Romero and Emerson (!) was very effective at deep build up against high pressing sides like Arsenal, Liverpool and City last season.
So United’s great performance has to be taken with a pinch of salt.
Where’s the video of Liverpool and Leeds
Repeating what he's said just recently about the spurs ands Chelsea games
Do a Tifo Football video on this too.
The early part of this video made me realize that ManU under OGS and Spurs under Conte this season share a lot of similarities. It’ll be interesting to see if Conte sees the same fate or if he adapts.
From McFred to Caseriksen. From tactically clueless Ole to Shampoo hating sigma Ten Hag
Lmaooo😆😆😆
I am so happy pgba left, coz ion order to possess u need some structural dm
I think I read somewhere where someone from United said that, "ETH is building a plane as he flies it."
Nice Newell's Old Boys jersey 😍
There's a The Square Ball logo on the left chest? I'm so confused 😅
01:43 Maguire number 10
Great analysis. May I make a gentle suggestion? Cut the mood music, it’s distracting and unhelpful. Thanks.
Tifo been saying every day until today that Man U has still just been a Solskjaer team
I can see some improvement. But after losing to Villa we have a negative goal difference 13 league matches in. Those early hidings are part of that, but lack of goals is the rest. Finishing position in the league strongly correlates with goal difference. Currently we are heading for a mid table finish if the problem is not sorted. I am not too fussed. I lived through the post Busby doldrums and expected the same after Fergie. MUFC always comes back in the end. We'll never die, we'll keep the red flag flying high and all that.
Eric ten hag was so paragmatic, this was his best strength
We was always taught don't play ball in your half. Get it in there half asap. Ollie's tactics. Haha.
Grind a point against chelsea. Its the other way round tbh.
You guys criticised Mou during his time @United but praise Ten hag very early.. Need to wait and see for the real improvement there or not only after could of seasons
having a proper DM finally
So glad that JJ guy is no longer talking about United. His surface level analysis is poor
Awesome Square Ball shirt
You’re defo starting in qatar over chillwell bro
Ten Hag is the manager Manchester United have needed for a long time.
The missing piece is a 10 at the moment and I'm guessing it's going to be a summer signing of gakpo so he can play in a fluid 3 but would prefer osimen as a more straight forward striker
A 10 or a 9?
9.5
United still need a RB to give rest to Dalot another midfielder that can do a similar job like Eriksen but with more defensive capabilities and a number 9 with a lot of movement (maybe 2 ) thats why United has showing interest in De Jong , Gakpo , Osimhen and Frimpong
@@jamespark3134 Honestly we need another CB too the drop off in CB’s is awful. If we could ever actually get Timber it would fit our team completely.
@@nashequalizer8836 yeah the dropoff with Lindelof its not that big probably United will wait for Bailly the next year and probably they will move on from Maguire and Martinez Varane Lindelof and Bailly will be the the CB's for the next year
I'd love too see a video on Martinez and how brialiant he has been and how wrong the likes of Souness and Carragher are.
Have you guys drop the cartoon illustrations ?
Arsenal thumped nott forest and there's no video analysis of the match ? But man utd beat west ham to maintain 5th and they're praised that doesn't make any sense
Not always about scoring goals, nothing wrong with looking at the tactical difference ten hag has made. United have been dominating recent games in possession
Also it’s Nottingham forest
@@Sam-cb3pv i shortened name and also I thought utd fans always refer to the arsenal win as a fact that possession is not a quality of a good side plus Chelsea are going through am injury Crisis and still got a draw. with a rotated side
Why is Luke Shaw explaining ETH's tactics on TH-cam?
Be there forever
But we're still finding it hard to score...
GENERATE
We need to play two upfront like we did against Real because we have the players. 1 striker upfront is easy to shut down 🤦🏽♂️
According to me he could have played Donny who is really good in making quick runs and passes in those conjested areas and he could have either scored or contributed alot
I think the main reason he didn't bring Donny, Sancho , garnacho was to defend the lead as West ham was very good and United were pinned in their own half
@@harshagrawal1056 yeah I guess so to but he could still bring him or either of the above u named to make them fall back in their own half
Squad depth will be the key for teams to reach their respective goals at the end of the season..man city have the edge..they'll win the league.. hopefully arsenal will win..wud b peak..
Under Solskjaer: United have no defined style of play.
Under Ten Hag: United are flexible in their play style.
Ps. I'm a big fan of Ten Hag, and I have optimism for the next few years. Just gotta call out how unduly harsh some online commentators (not saying Tifo) were towards Ole.
The guy in the thumbnail looks like Bill Burr
2 years he will be gone
Noone will remember him
Aged well
Who was Yaya Toure number 19 for who play in red? Wasn’t Monaco??? 🤔
Might be Ivory Coast but the lighting is weird
okay but why is luke shaw wearing glasses and explaining tactics to us?
Dude. The presenter looks like Luke Shaw?
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What I take from this is that utd need a guy who can score goals, a real poacher goal threat, if only they had one