Everybody was out pretty much of the plane by the time the fire started. The cabin crew did their evacuation protocols to a "t". That's why everyone survived. What you think people were on fire flailing about trying to get out?
Really a miracle ! I think there was an fire that builds up slowly and everyone was able to evacuate safety in time. Rain and poor piloting make the accident happen but rain saves the lives too.
@@kmartbd what kind of response is this? Do you think you are muslim?.. Haha.. Being a Muslim mean you must respect every religion and ppl of other belief.
How the hell would you wait 17 seconds before applying reverse thrust? Every second counts especially when you touched down much later than expected...
I have heard that there is a system which will prevent the pilot from apply the reverse thrust if the speed of the nose, left and right gear didn't exceed certain limit, please correct me if I was wrong. But 17sec after touchdown, I also think the speed should have already been reached if there is one. Anyway a "Go Around" could simply save this plane and even the career of the captain.
When you touch down so late you need to go around, unless the plane is incapable of doing so (engine failure, out of fuel, etc.). You can go around until you apply reverse thrust, and that's absolutely what they should have done.
Also, the reverses are just giant noise makers if not used initially upon touchdown. 24L/06R in YZ is relatively short runway where the red Rwy edge lights come up fast on a normal day for a big boy plane.
Go arounds are drilled into us starting with the 2nd or 3rd flight as private pilot students. There's too much pressure to get to the gate for an on time arrival. Far too many of these overrun accidents.
I saw this live!!!...Was driving parallel to runway on 401 highway - in front of airport! Just picked up my nephew at airport to go to the Rush concert at Air Canada Centre! It was windy and raining from pop up storm....maybe 3:00pm?...Saw the plane land and then saw it catch fire at end of runway! Thought everyone was done for..couldn’t believe no fatalities!
You can thank the Flight attendants for their quick reaction and speed to clear the plane. it was done in under 90 seconds. I think the plane went up in flames after everyone escaped. I flew into that airport a week later.
I live in Toronto and my fiancé, father and I are avid plane watchers. One of the spots where people like to watch planes come in is by that very gate where the plane over shot the runway. I remember vividly that we were debating going that day, but didn’t because of the forecast. We were flabbergasted when we saw the crash on the news. Luckily there were also no spotters there that day!
That was quite an impressive recreation of the events that took place on that day and as someone else mentioned in the comments, it's a miracle that everybody escaped just before the plane burst into flames. I live in Toronto and was recently applying for a job at a company located in a business district/park not very far away from where this crash happened and whenever I look into that zone near Pearson, this crash always comes to mind.
OmG! I was crew in the cabin, on the plane ( A340 too ) that landed before AF! We were on holding too due to storms... I still remember the bumpy landing and how shocked we all got seeing from distance the tail of AF and black smokes without knowing if they will be alive or not ! The airport shut down and remember we stopped taxiing . Shoking moments for all crews and passengers from nearby aircrafts . AF Cabin crew did an amazing job !
And they just missed 1200m from the start of the runway, half of the total length of the runway. It should be enough to judge for a go-around calls from the captain.
Fairly simple. All persons survived the initial crash. The plane, though on fire, did not initially erupt into flames. The 10 flight attendants risked their lives and stayed aboard until 297 passengers were out using 4 emergency chutes. They got, or pushed, passengers out each door at a faster rate than one person per second, per door. The plane was empty within 90 seconds.
At the time I was living in a condo near the airport. I remember standing and watching this crazy storm on our balcony. Then a friend called saying a plane crashed at airport everyone in office had noses pressed against window watching. I remember it like it was yesterday.
I was driving near the Pearson Int'l about an hour before the crash that day. It was a very nasty thunderstorm, a mircoburst pushed my van from one lane to another. I remember seeing on the TV that night that passengers climbed up an embankment to a major highway where people pulled over to offer them shelter from the storm until authorities arrived to transport them back to the airport.
I've probably seen everyone of these crash investigations on TV that you re-enact and I'm to here to tell you, you are spot on every time. Great work and again I thank you for your hard work and time you put into your videos. I heard the loaded plane was evacuated in 90 seconds, a miracle there were no deaths. Nice job Flight Channel.
My sentiments exactly. We don't see too many A380's any more, at least not at YYZ. I don't fly airplanes, but why didn't the First Officer aim down at the runway, Russian pilot style, and then rotate the nose up just before landing? At least that seems the slightly scary style in Russia; check some of their videos. Aarre Peltomaa
My family's business is 5 min from the crash site. It was only 4 years after 9/11 and people thought it was a bomb or failed hijacking. The rumble of the fuel tanks going up could be heard from a distance. Amazing that everybody got out safely
Easy to judge these pilots. But they had flown a 10 hour flight without sleep break, and now landing in heavy weather. I think it all conspired to the accident.
@@c8Lorraine1 - No, no, no. The flight crew had been awake 10 hours. But it's only a 6 or so hour flight, which they had made many times before. The fact is, the pilots messed up their approach and landing. Simple as that.
@@Morpheen999 yes, if captain is yelling it is really hard for copiltod to do other thing and think if it is correct in such short time. Probablt the bad thing is that they get penalized for wasted time and fuel when going around? Like when I drive car and I see a risk of accided if I cross the road, I just wait till the trafic goes away even when I had enough time to cross ,but just want to avoid risk. Recentrly somebody overtook me at a crossroad becausse he thought I waited too long to let other cars pass on main road.
I live near Toronto and I remember that crash very well, I'm so glad that everyone made it out. I've even been to the spot at Pearson Airport where the plane crashed.
Worked on the other side of Dixie Road. Buildings block my view of runway. Definitely did not miss the smoke from it. When took my lunch break went up to the other runway to grab a coffee. Three 747's lined up to leave so was late back to work from break ! If the plane had done a go around it would have been a thing of beauty from my work! Maybe once a year I would see one done !
I was driving around the airport that day. It was a pretty goood storm we had. A lightning bolt hit a lamp post about 30 metres from me and I felt one hell of a blast.
I remember this, was actually on the highway right by it minutes after it happened - as the passengers evacuated they climbed out of the ravine and onto the highway.
That was probably due to that blonde woman who could only speak spitting out her words. My gosh, was she about to scratch someone's eyes out, still. But I admit, who knows how I would have reacted.
The Alien >>> Oh yeah! I remember that self-righteous, know it all, overly-dramatic bitch! What was her name? Oh yeah! That's right... good 'ol JoAnn "Corduroy" Bundock !!!! Who could possibly forget her? She looks like a poster-child for every SUV-driving, Starbucks latte-swilling, soccer mom that ever rubbed me the wrong way. Little miss prissy pants jet-setter, always on the go, playing, "I'm so damn important, you can't hold a frickin' candle to me". I just remember I had to mute the volume when she came on, as she made that episode of Air Disasters almost unwatchable.
B3burner Yes we are definitely talking about the same woman. I mostly remember when she said the captain told them "ladies and gentlemen, we have stopped now And it was as of she transformed in the wicked witch of the West. I still see her hair, which was obviously full of hair spray bobbing up and down when she replied:" well duh!! Of course we've stopped now!!" Like you said, she came across as someone who wants things her way or not at all. She may not be like this, maybe this is her protection from being in a crash and almost got blown up afterwards. Who knows. But I had to bite my tongue there. A lot. Oh my. Isn't it awful if people remember you not so much from the crash itself, but from how you portrayed yourself on tv?
Marcelo Gouveia - I couldn't agree more. Despite 4 out of 8 exits being unusable, the 10 FA evacuated all 297 passengers in less than 90 seconds! In a smoke-filled, dark, and burning, broken aircraft. It is solely because of them that all passengers survived. That's about 1 person, per second, per exit. It almost sounds impossible, but they did it.
I was actually in Toronto that day. My family and I were going to fly back home the next day and when we drove to Toronto from the Georgian Bay area, that’s when we heard about the plane crash. I remember seeing the smoke from our hotel room.
@Antonio Bromelini Such things cost MONEY (read about Alfred Sloan and his attitude to safety-glass in car-windows). On my local rail-line, they cut the track-layout and signalling in order to save money: after the inevitable head-on collision, they reinstated the features ( and added a sand-trap ) that shouldn't have been taken away in the first place.
@Antonio Bromelini But it's a matter of who gets it in the neck for spending money to head-off an accident or minimise its consequences. Things are always done after the event, like the installation of pressure-release vents in the cabin floors of the DC-10 airliners AFTER a catastrophic accident.
@Antonio Bromelini Look at that that business of the missing sensor and $80,000 warning-light on that 737 MAX (both "optional" for purchasers, so as to lower the selling-price). It's 'sales über alles', and the reservations of engineers ( those whose jobs haven't been outsourced) and of anyone else, come a poor last in the scheme of things.
With an aero engineering degree, my experience with thrust reversers on various aircraft types is that they are incredibly effective at stopping a plane IF they are used properly. I simply don't understand why pilots fail to do so.
Excellent video as always from TFC and some additional facts: I remember this day. I was driving home from work and saw the smoke rising at the airport and knew it was bad news. Weather that day was horrendous. Wind @ 25 -30 knots? Let me laugh. I spoke to a pilot who knows the copilot well. This flight crew was dealing with a 40 mph crosswind gusting to 60 mph AND microbursts ( unreported by ATC...WHY??). Wild, quickly fluctuating winds GREATLY contributed to this occurrence. Copilot was trying to bring her in but crazy winds were creating undesired lift and hampering descent. Hence Captain shouting: " DOWN, DOWN!!". This flight crew ABSOLUTELY needed to do a go-around once they realized they had passed the safety threshold. I'm very surprised that they didn't. Airframe was heavily damaged in ravine; fuel tanks immediately began leaking fuel, aircraft caught fire. Flight attendants safely evacuated all passengers WITH AIRCRAFT ON FIRE. Motorists on hwy 427 adjacent airport had stopped their cars and ASSISTED WITH EVACUATION, some driving injured passengers to local hospital(s). Reflections: why did ATC authorize this landing? Few know this: weather that day was so bad that ALL outbound flights had been suspended. So how could it be safe to land?!? This flight should have diverted to nearby Hamilton Ontario. Air France, like most airlines, likes to combine journeyman pilots like this copilot with seasoned veterans for the purpose of continuing training and experience. Understandable. Nevertheless, in conditions this horrendous, the more experienced pilot (captain) should have been performing the landing. 15000 hrs experience... So why the heck did you not order a go-around instead of panicking junior pilot with: DOWN!! DOWN!!...?? I would say this occurrence ABSOLUTELY could have been avoided.
Even if it wasn't a wet runway, it would have crashed. They overran the runway so much and applied the reverse thrust so late that it looked like a failed attempt of a go around. Great video as usual.
Indecision kills, especially at a critical time. They had to have known that they had too little runway ahead, and WHY 17 seconds to deploy the thrust reversers ???
I live about an hour northish of Toronto, Oro-Medonte to be exact. On the day of this accident, I was 3 and at home with my mom. (December birthday) However, my dad had to run down to Toronto for a clinic thing and ended up passing the Airport on the 401 at around the exact time of the crash, and saw it all. Great video man!! Only error is how bright it was in the video in Toronto, it was VERY dark out, dark grey and black clouds. I believe we have a VHS/Camcorder recording from nearby the airport at the time directly after, probably 30 secs to a minute after crash, if I find it I’ll upload it.
The Captain said Put it Down Put it Down - he shouldn't have said that - it probably rattled the first officer into not not doing an obvious go-around -
It was far too late for a go around. With an aircraft that heavy, surface conditions that bad, you put down as close to beginning of the runway as possible! Every time!
@@daveroberts936 As long as they can activate the TOGA button, they can always abort the touch down and try again. We've seen that many on sidewind/strong winds landings, just check Narita Japan's landings with heavy side winds. It's definitely possible to abort the landing.... Not too late, like Dave Roberts said.
The tense environment in cockpit and bad weather and high wind landing might have freighten captain and cause him to say put it down instead of go-around and it might have make first officer trip because of human psychology and it's always new for everyone in aviation doesn't matter how much experience you have
I was a foreign student in Toronto(technically, North York), having returned home for summer holidays in '05. On my way back to T-dot in late August that year, I remember after I got out of the airport I was told that there was a huge accident at the airport while I was away. Well, better than hearing it before departure. Or on the flight.
that amount for airline is not much, maybe a rough quarter, but each passenger will be happy thinking they were lucky that day, even one life lost would have been tragic than losing the 200 mil$ plane. But I get your joke. cheers.
First heard this breaking news on the Internet before leaving work. I could smell the fuel burning at what was then Downsview Station. Later drove by the scene to witness history since there were no fatalities. Glad they all made it alive.
I'm not sure how I feel about this. Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night with that sad, ominous piano playing in my head and it's *very* disturbing.
Looking at the mayhem it's a miracle that people survived the crash - great job by the ground services. Obviously cockpit crew's response was delayed and inadequate - both the decision to land as well as deploying reverse thrust. Is there a case for testing the crew for mental acuity while conducting simulated flying ?
Thanks TFC for an amazing Video!! You made me glued to the Channel. Likes to know more about another CRASH OF AN AIRBUS A340 IN TOULOUSE, ETIHAD, Nov 15, 2007.
Not much to say about that one, is there? They forgot to put down chocks during ground engine testing and it rolled into a wall. It never even attempted to fly.
Yeah, but a 10 hour flight does tire a passenger let alone a pilot. Judgement can be impaired. No relief pilot on the trip. I wonder if a student pilot would think straight, let alone heavy weather
The music in these older ones really wrecks it, fantastic decision moving to 'cinematic piano' - STILL a BRILLIANT video tho, it's just that coming from your new ones, this feels 90% about the music. You've gone from brilliant to perfect in the last two years, HUGE respect :)
I was on the highway when this happened , was less then 200 feet from me, the weather that day before the crash was nice and calm , out of nowhere I couldn’t see 2 feet in front of my car , there were allot of lucky people that day , Including myself. Scariest moment of my life
How loud was the explosion where you were? Thought we heard a deep rumble / boom from our shop on Eglinton & Dixie before the smoke cloud went up. Believed it was a failed terrorist attack / hijacking for a couple minutes
How loud was the explosion where you were? Thought we heard a deep rumble / boom from our shop on Eglinton & Dixie before the smoke cloud went up. Believed it was a failed terrorist attack / hijacking for a couple minutes
Canadian Pride.....not sure where you were but the weather was terrible. I was having lunch by FedEx watching planes and listening to the tower for 45 minutes. I even tuned in the ATIS to get the report from that and it said it was not good arriving in to Toronto. The weather was terrible the entire time I was there. That is why I left and it was only maybe 10 minutes before this crash.
It says right in the video that the weather was so bad that the airport declared a red alert. Ground crews couldnt even work on the planes it was so dangerous. Severe storms, high winds and lightning.
I now just click the thumb up as soon as each one of these videos starts. Every single one of them has been excellently put together. Kudos to the content creator!
I live in Toronto and I remember the storm that rolled thru that day. It came up in a second, and I was hiding in the garden center of the Home Depot watching the clouds roll thru. It was vicious and one of those sudden summer storms because of the humidity. They should have been put in a holding pattern.
Air France didn't use that livery in 2005 (it was introduced only in 2009). But I understand that finding the correct livery for FSX can be tricky. Also, you could have mentioned the fire that followed the crash and explains why the plane was so completely destroyed when the crash itself wasn't that catastrophic, but the passengers had all been safely evacuated before the fire consumed the plane. Other than these two remarks, very good work, as usual! :-)
I've been watching your videos, and they absolutely amazing, you're very talented! I don't know if you take requests, but I would love to see Helios Airways flight 522. Sorry if you don't take requests, and you're videos are great!
I was #1 in line for departure for this event. The rain had just started and the body of the storm had yet to hit. From short final, a go around would not have been pretty either due to the severity of the storm. We declined takeoff clearance. I remember the AF guys as being way above a normal glidepath and we both commented on the obviously unstabilized approach. Then we saw smoke but were facing the opposite direction so didn't see them go off the end. For those who blame the airport, we plan landings to stay within the confines of the runway plus a factor for safety. The crew screwed the pooch on this one.
I was flying back from Europe the day before this crash happened. The pilots of our plane were fighting the winds during landing and it would lift us up really fast, then push us down. It felt like a rollercoaster ride that lasted 10 min and I felt like throwing up (but didn't). The storage compartments were opening above our heads and everyone was silent, that kind of anxious silence where you're wondering if you will survive. As we were getting off the plane, someone asked "who landed this plane?" and the flight attendant replied "the wind". The winds that whole week felt like mini tornadoes on the ground, so I can imagine they were swirling harder up in the atmosphere. I don't know how well the instruments record wind direction and force, but I can tell you there was a lot of force.
The way the wreckage looks I can't believe everyone lived! So sorry for the captain. What a stupid mistake made by the co-pilot...wow. Good video as always!
Please give a ' like ' for the 10 Flight Attendants who risked their lives to save 297 passengers. They were the ONLY reason that everybody got out of the aircraft alive. They were the last to leave the aircraft. They directed, and even pushed the passengers out of only 4 available exits. This was at a rate of roughly one passenger almost every *SECOND* , out of each exit door. 4 passengers safely out, in less than 2 seconds. 200 passengers out in one minute. Outstanding work. Almost unbelievable. These statistics were verified by fire crews. They were amazed that the entire aircraft was close to empty by the time they got there, in only one minute or more. Many passengers voluntarily caught the people rocketing down chutes. Those passengers deserve great credit, too.
I'm now on disability due to Crohn's disease and PTSD, but at that time I was an Advanced Care Paramedic in Toronto and I was one of the first Toronto ambulances on scene at this event. I made a video about it called "Josh Yaks about his CRAZIEST experience in 16 years of working as a paramedic!"
OMG!! i did not know about this accident..but looking at this wreckage,it's amazing people were able to walk away from all this. Once again you did well in recreating this moment, very well done.
I remember that Allec Joshua Ibay did a video on this incident.I think he does Air Disaster videos pretty well,but you remaster them.Kudos to you,FlightChannel!
My 95 year old Gammy was on the flight. You can see her waving to us @7:14. She is at the 4th window from the front. She lost a foot in the accident. It got stuck up in the gentleman's hiney sitting in front of her.
So many people mention the first responders...They were great! But this accident more than any other brought the responsibility of the flight attendants to the fore. They were the ones that maintained order and got everyone out! There was a Mayday episode about the training flight attendants receive...It's quite impressive.
NEARLY 4000 FEET past the start of the runway before it touched down on a wet runway that's only 8500 feet to begin with? What part of GO AROUND did that FO not understand? That's what you do when you obviously overshoot your approach....Why was the captain hollering to the FO to "PUT IT DOWN!? He should have taken over the controls and GONE AROUND.
Judging by that pic of the plane at the end, it's a miracle how everyone got away pretty much unscratched
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Indeed. Pretty incredible. Seeing that image I' would have guessed everyone on board perished!
Everybody was out pretty much of the plane by the time the fire started. The cabin crew did their evacuation protocols to a "t". That's why everyone survived. What you think people were on fire flailing about trying to get out?
Really a miracle ! I think there was an fire that builds up slowly and everyone was able to evacuate safety in time. Rain and poor piloting make the accident happen but rain saves the lives too.
The cabin crew performed the miracle of getting everybody out alive. I wonder if they were awarded anything for their clear headed thinking.
I wonder! Hope they did!
They were awarded their lives, is that not enough?
@@mcgraw8098 Man, Dont be Toxic
They should awarded bruh
Being a flight attendant:That is our job
@@mcgraw8098 please..
The captain could just have said "Go around" instead of "put it down" and they would probably have landed safely 10 Minutes later.
@@kmartbd fuck you, dude
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@@kmartbd you bigot fuck face! Go somewhere else to throw out your bigotry and hatred.
@@kmartbd what kind of response is this? Do you think you are muslim?.. Haha.. Being a Muslim mean you must respect every religion and ppl of other belief.
How the hell would you wait 17 seconds before applying reverse thrust? Every second counts especially when you touched down much later than expected...
Yeah, sometimes pilot's do/don't do the damnedest things!!!
*25 year airline mechanic here, I've seen it all*
I have heard that there is a system which will prevent the pilot from apply the reverse thrust if the speed of the nose, left and right gear didn't exceed certain limit, please correct me if I was wrong. But 17sec after touchdown, I also think the speed should have already been reached if there is one.
Anyway a "Go Around" could simply save this plane and even the career of the captain.
Especially after landing so far down the runway... every microsecond counts.
When you touch down so late you need to go around, unless the plane is incapable of doing so (engine failure, out of fuel, etc.). You can go around until you apply reverse thrust, and that's absolutely what they should have done.
Also, the reverses are just giant noise makers if not used initially upon touchdown. 24L/06R in YZ is relatively short runway where the red Rwy edge lights come up fast on a normal day for a big boy plane.
Go arounds are drilled into us starting with the 2nd or 3rd flight as private pilot students. There's too much pressure to get to the gate for an on time arrival. Far too many of these overrun accidents.
I saw this live!!!...Was driving parallel to runway on 401 highway - in front of airport!
Just picked up my nephew at airport to go to the Rush concert at Air Canada Centre!
It was windy and raining from pop up storm....maybe 3:00pm?...Saw the plane land and then saw it catch fire at end of runway! Thought everyone was done for..couldn’t believe no fatalities!
The next Rush concert at Air Canada Centre was in 2007... You were either way too early or you actually saw Coldplay that day.
Khy Maaren ..No ...I picked up my Nephew and his buddy specifically for the concert on Saturday!
That’s why I remember that day!
Well then your prolly scared for life
My dad told me he remembers his co-worker calling him and saying "holy shit dude a plane just went onto the 401!" (obviously exaggerating)
You can thank the Flight attendants for their quick reaction and speed to clear the plane. it was done in under 90 seconds. I think the plane went up in flames after everyone escaped. I flew into that airport a week later.
My dad was on this flight!! He helped assist the passengers that jumped out, he lead the entire escape. Cass Trahan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I live in Toronto and my fiancé, father and I are avid plane watchers. One of the spots where people like to watch planes come in is by that very gate where the plane over shot the runway. I remember vividly that we were debating going that day, but didn’t because of the forecast. We were flabbergasted when we saw the crash on the news. Luckily there were also no spotters there that day!
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That was quite an impressive recreation of the events that took place on that day and as someone else mentioned in the comments, it's a miracle that everybody escaped just before the plane burst into flames. I live in Toronto and was recently applying for a job at a company located in a business district/park not very far away from where this crash happened and whenever I look into that zone near Pearson, this crash always comes to mind.
OmG! I was crew in the cabin, on the plane ( A340 too ) that landed before AF! We were on holding too due to storms... I still remember the bumpy landing and how shocked we all got seeing from distance the tail of AF and black smokes without knowing if they will be alive or not ! The airport shut down and remember we stopped taxiing . Shoking moments for all crews and passengers from nearby aircrafts . AF Cabin crew did an amazing job !
You know you've screwed up when the plane starts calling you names as you touch down!
17 seconds. It's usually around 4 seconds. Count off 13 seconds in your head. That's a LONG time.
And every second counts with poor braking action due to rain and landing so far down the runway.
And they just missed 1200m from the start of the runway, half of the total length of the runway. It should be enough to judge for a go-around calls from the captain.
So despite the warning from ATC it seems that the pilots did everything they could to make it harder for themselves to stop the plane
13 seconds, and it already over shoots the runway
It's spectacular that there was so much damage to the aircraft, but nobody was killed.
I actually remember seeing that driving on the 401. I honestly thought at least 15 people died
I drove by it too!
When I saw the picture, I was thinking that people died in the crash
To this day I don't know how they all got out alive but that makes it one of the happiest endings in air crash history.
and one of the most avoidable crashes in air crash history.
Fairly simple. All persons survived the initial crash.
The plane, though on fire, did not initially erupt into flames.
The 10 flight attendants risked their lives and stayed aboard until 297 passengers were out using 4 emergency chutes.
They got, or pushed, passengers out each door at a faster rate than one person per second, per door. The plane was empty within 90 seconds.
It's amazing just how long 17 seconds is, traveling at 160mph.
it feels weird to me 17 seconds to reverse thrust... ????? DAFUQ
@@williamyqb ikr it's just nonsense
At the time I was living in a condo near the airport. I remember standing and watching this crazy storm on our balcony. Then a friend called saying a plane crashed at airport everyone in office had noses pressed against window watching. I remember it like it was yesterday.
I was driving near the Pearson Int'l about an hour before the crash that day. It was a very nasty thunderstorm, a mircoburst pushed my van from one lane to another. I remember seeing on the TV that night that passengers climbed up an embankment to a major highway where people pulled over to offer them shelter from the storm until authorities arrived to transport them back to the airport.
@@sczaythe_muslimwake up it was dangerous outside I was a child when it happened I never saw it on the news I was about to start kindergarten
I've probably seen everyone of these crash investigations on TV that you re-enact and I'm to here to tell you, you are spot on every time. Great work and again I thank you for your hard work and time you put into your videos. I heard the loaded plane was evacuated in 90 seconds, a miracle there were no deaths. Nice job Flight Channel.
One of the most avoidable crashes In History.
Just divert to Montreal or some shit
also agreed
Wow
3:48 what music is that i rrly like it
If it would have been avoided, we would not see or comment this video.
When you tired about 10 hours of flight and you won’t go around
You already look like a dead skull 💀💀💀💀 creepy
I am happy they didnt go for go around. It would have been disastrous.
@@NightRider0101 really? explain.
Naveed Ahmed Yes please, do explain...
There are so many cases where they scrambled last minute go around and ended up in a bigger disaster.
Plane: *goes into holding pattern*
*HEROIC MUSIC INTENSIFIES*
There was only one victim: the beautiful aircraft. Being destroyed by the hands of an imbecile was its destiny
My sentiments exactly. We don't see too many A380's any more, at least not at YYZ. I don't fly airplanes, but why didn't the First Officer aim down at the runway, Russian pilot style, and then rotate the nose up just before landing? At least that seems the slightly scary style in Russia; check some of their videos. Aarre Peltomaa
@@box_cannot_car yeah like Aeroflot 593
Correction. I should have typed A340, not A380. Aarre Peltomaa
@Degasi HAHAHAHA
theres another victim, its the 14 year clean record of the airbus a340
My family's business is 5 min from the crash site. It was only 4 years after 9/11 and people thought it was a bomb or failed hijacking. The rumble of the fuel tanks going up could be heard from a distance. Amazing that everybody got out safely
Another amazing video man!thank you for it!
Agreed
Hey what is your problem you always say thanks man you can say another word
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The F/O should have initiated a go-around once he realised he was too high, especially on a wet pavement. Great video.
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And it took 17 seconds to hit reverse thrusters..
Captain was yelling at him to put it down
His shouldve hit those thrusters right after touchdown
Easy to judge these pilots. But they had flown a 10 hour flight without sleep break, and now landing in heavy weather. I think it all conspired to the accident.
@@c8Lorraine1 - No, no, no.
The flight crew had been awake 10 hours.
But it's only a 6 or so hour flight, which they had made many times before.
The fact is, the pilots messed up their approach and landing. Simple as that.
@@Morpheen999 yes, if captain is yelling it is really hard for copiltod to do other thing and think if it is correct in such short time. Probablt the bad thing is that they get penalized for wasted time and fuel when going around? Like when I drive car and I see a risk of accided if I cross the road, I just wait till the trafic goes away even when I had enough time to cross ,but just want to avoid risk. Recentrly somebody overtook me at a crossroad becausse he thought I waited too long to let other cars pass on main road.
I live near Toronto and I remember that crash very well, I'm so glad that everyone made it out. I've even been to the spot at Pearson Airport where the plane crashed.
Yeah there isn't any left, as you said obviously.
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I live in Toronto too! I was born a year after this incident.
Worked on the other side of Dixie Road. Buildings block my view of runway. Definitely did not miss the smoke from it. When took my lunch break went up to the other runway to grab a coffee. Three 747's lined up to leave so was late back to work from break ! If the plane had done a go around it would have been a thing of beauty from my work! Maybe once a year I would see one done !
I was driving around the airport that day. It was a pretty goood storm we had. A lightning bolt hit a lamp post about 30 metres from me and I felt one hell of a blast.
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I was on the Highway coming home from work. Saw all the people coming off the plane
I know, the storms here in Toronto are scary. I almost got struck by lightning several times😳
I remember this, was actually on the highway right by it minutes after it happened - as the passengers evacuated they climbed out of the ravine and onto the highway.
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I was on the highway 401 too right beside this, I'll never forget seeing passengers come out of the ravine and onto the shoulder of the highway.
This is an amazing video! I just cannot believe by the looks of that plane that anyone survived!
Remember watching this on Air Crash Investigation as a kid, pretty scary but luckily everyone survived! Great video!😃
That was probably due to that blonde woman who could only speak spitting out her words. My gosh, was she about to scratch someone's eyes out, still.
But I admit, who knows how I would have reacted.
The Alien >>> Oh yeah! I remember that self-righteous, know it all, overly-dramatic bitch! What was her name? Oh yeah! That's right... good 'ol JoAnn "Corduroy" Bundock !!!! Who could possibly forget her? She looks like a poster-child for every SUV-driving, Starbucks latte-swilling, soccer mom that ever rubbed me the wrong way. Little miss prissy pants jet-setter, always on the go, playing, "I'm so damn important, you can't hold a frickin' candle to me".
I just remember I had to mute the volume when she came on, as she made that episode of Air Disasters almost unwatchable.
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Yes we are definitely talking about the same woman.
I mostly remember when she said the captain told them "ladies and gentlemen, we have stopped now
And it was as of she transformed in the wicked witch of the West. I still see her hair, which was obviously full of hair spray bobbing up and down when she replied:" well duh!! Of course we've stopped now!!"
Like you said, she came across as someone who wants things her way or not at all.
She may not be like this, maybe this is her protection from being in a crash and almost got blown up afterwards. Who knows. But I had to bite my tongue there. A lot.
Oh my. Isn't it awful if people remember you not so much from the crash itself, but from how you portrayed yourself on tv?
Kudos to the flight attendants! They are real heroes!!!
Marcelo Gouveia - I couldn't agree more. Despite 4 out of 8 exits being unusable, the 10 FA evacuated all 297 passengers in less than 90 seconds! In a smoke-filled, dark, and burning, broken aircraft. It is solely because of them that all passengers survived. That's about 1 person, per second, per exit. It almost sounds impossible, but they did it.
I was actually in Toronto that day. My family and I were going to fly back home the next day and when we drove to Toronto from the Georgian Bay area, that’s when we heard about the plane crash. I remember seeing the smoke from our hotel room.
A good airport, with a ravine at the end of the runway-overrun area.
@Antonio Bromelini Such things cost MONEY (read about Alfred Sloan and his attitude to safety-glass in car-windows). On my local rail-line, they cut the track-layout and signalling in order to save money: after the inevitable head-on collision, they reinstated the features ( and added a sand-trap ) that shouldn't have been taken away in the first place.
@Antonio Bromelini But it's a matter of who gets it in the neck for spending money to head-off an accident or minimise its consequences. Things are always done after the event, like the installation of pressure-release vents in the cabin floors of the DC-10 airliners AFTER a catastrophic accident.
@Antonio Bromelini Look at that that business of the missing sensor and $80,000 warning-light on that 737 MAX (both "optional" for purchasers, so as to lower the selling-price). It's 'sales über alles', and the reservations of engineers ( those whose jobs haven't been outsourced) and of anyone else, come a poor last in the scheme of things.
@Antonio Bromelini Agreed.
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You think that's bad? There's about 5 car dealers at the end of the longest runways. That's the last place I want to buy a car
With an aero engineering degree, my experience with thrust reversers on various aircraft types is that they are incredibly effective at stopping a plane IF they are used properly. I simply don't understand why pilots fail to do so.
landing too far down the runway, on a wet runway, is beyond the capability of thrust reversers
@@watchgoose But they took 17 secs before activated the thrust reversers. I mean, if they reversed thrust earlier maybe they could avoid overun(?)
@@dalasnah1842 maybe they were considering going up and try again? there should be added what they told why they did what they did
It’s a miracle nobody died. Great recreation!
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Excellent video as always from TFC and some additional facts:
I remember this day. I was driving home from work and saw the smoke rising at the airport and knew it was bad news.
Weather that day was horrendous. Wind @ 25 -30 knots? Let me laugh. I spoke to a pilot who knows the copilot well. This flight crew was dealing with a 40 mph crosswind gusting to 60 mph AND microbursts ( unreported by ATC...WHY??). Wild, quickly fluctuating winds GREATLY contributed to this occurrence. Copilot was trying to bring her in but crazy winds were creating undesired lift and hampering descent. Hence Captain shouting: " DOWN, DOWN!!".
This flight crew ABSOLUTELY needed to do a go-around once they realized they had passed the safety threshold. I'm very surprised that they didn't.
Airframe was heavily damaged in ravine; fuel tanks immediately began leaking fuel, aircraft caught fire. Flight attendants safely evacuated all passengers WITH AIRCRAFT ON FIRE. Motorists on hwy 427 adjacent airport had stopped their cars and ASSISTED WITH EVACUATION, some driving injured passengers to local hospital(s).
Reflections: why did ATC authorize this landing? Few know this: weather that day was so bad that ALL outbound flights had been suspended. So how could it be safe to land?!? This flight should have diverted to nearby Hamilton Ontario.
Air France, like most airlines, likes to combine journeyman pilots like this copilot with seasoned veterans for the purpose of continuing training and experience. Understandable. Nevertheless, in conditions this horrendous, the more experienced pilot (captain) should have been performing the landing. 15000 hrs experience... So why the heck did you not order a go-around instead of panicking junior pilot with:
DOWN!! DOWN!!...?? I would say this occurrence ABSOLUTELY could have been avoided.
Even if it wasn't a wet runway, it would have crashed. They overran the runway so much and applied the reverse thrust so late that it looked like a failed attempt of a go around. Great video as usual.
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I believe you are right. Too bad the captain could no longer fly...very sad.
Indecision kills, especially at a critical time. They had to have known that they had too little runway ahead, and WHY 17 seconds to deploy the thrust reversers ???
It didnt help that he had half of the runway to go either.
That music in the background is so motivational.
It makes me anxious.
Thank God, everyone survived
More to the point thank the effciency of the cabin staff.
I live about an hour northish of Toronto, Oro-Medonte to be exact.
On the day of this accident, I was 3 and at home with my mom. (December birthday) However, my dad had to run down to Toronto for a clinic thing and ended up passing the Airport on the 401 at around the exact time of the crash, and saw it all.
Great video man!! Only error is how bright it was in the video in Toronto, it was VERY dark out, dark grey and black clouds. I believe we have a VHS/Camcorder recording from nearby the airport at the time directly after, probably 30 secs to a minute after crash, if I find it I’ll upload it.
The Captain said Put it Down Put it Down - he shouldn't have said that - it probably rattled the first officer into not not doing an obvious go-around -
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It was far too late for a go around. With an aircraft that heavy, surface conditions that bad, you put down as close to beginning of the runway as possible! Every time!
@@daveroberts936 As long as they can activate the TOGA button, they can always abort the touch down and try again. We've seen that many on sidewind/strong winds landings, just check Narita Japan's landings with heavy side winds. It's definitely possible to abort the landing.... Not too late, like Dave Roberts said.
The tense environment in cockpit and bad weather and high wind landing might have freighten captain and cause him to say put it down instead of go-around and it might have make first officer trip because of human psychology and it's always new for everyone in aviation doesn't matter how much experience you have
I was a foreign student in Toronto(technically, North York), having returned home for summer holidays in '05. On my way back to T-dot in late August that year, I remember after I got out of the airport I was told that there was a huge accident at the airport while I was away. Well, better than hearing it before departure. Or on the flight.
Ehhh, only a 200 million $ mistake
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that amount for airline is not much, maybe a rough quarter, but each passenger will be happy thinking they were lucky that day, even one life lost would have been tragic than losing the 200 mil$ plane. But I get your joke. cheers.
First heard this breaking news on the Internet before leaving work. I could smell the fuel burning at what was then Downsview Station. Later drove by the scene to witness history since there were no fatalities. Glad they all made it alive.
The Best part of the video is your music which creates an anxiety over our minds...Great Job Dude!
I must sound horrible. But the music relaxes me 🤔
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BurgBikers Yeah I LOVE the music... It puts emotion in there 🙏🏻👍🏻💓
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I'm not sure how I feel about this. Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night with that sad, ominous piano playing in my head and it's *very* disturbing.
I am addicted to this channel how much brilliant work they are doing.
Looking at the mayhem it's a miracle that people survived the crash - great job by the ground services. Obviously cockpit crew's response was delayed and inadequate - both the decision to land as well as deploying reverse thrust. Is there a case for testing the crew for mental acuity while conducting simulated flying ?
Just want to say I love your videos man, been binge watching them all lol the second I found this channel
Me too!
Thanks TFC for an amazing Video!! You made me glued to the Channel.
Likes to know more about another CRASH OF AN AIRBUS A340 IN TOULOUSE, ETIHAD, Nov 15, 2007.
Not much to say about that one, is there? They forgot to put down chocks during ground engine testing and it rolled into a wall. It never even attempted to fly.
I’m so glad everyone survived. Looking at the pictures, it is hard to believe. Great recreation.
Go around. Hell, a student pilot is taught not to land without enough room to stop.
Yeah, but a 10 hour flight does tire a passenger let alone a pilot. Judgement can be impaired. No relief pilot on the trip. I wonder if a student pilot would think straight, let alone heavy weather
Apparently the weather was so horrendous (much worse than depicted in the video) that taking off back into it was seen as most unwise
The music in these older ones really wrecks it, fantastic decision moving to 'cinematic piano' - STILL a BRILLIANT video tho, it's just that coming from your new ones, this feels 90% about the music. You've gone from brilliant to perfect in the last two years, HUGE respect :)
I like both
I had a uncle on that flight he survived.
Really I was sure he didn't survive...
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Well, looks like nobody can dislike your videos again. They are so superb! The music, animation and everything is perfect!!!
I was on the highway when this happened , was less then 200 feet from me, the weather that day before the crash was nice and calm , out of nowhere I couldn’t see 2 feet in front of my car , there were allot of lucky people that day , Including myself. Scariest moment of my life
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How loud was the explosion where you were? Thought we heard a deep rumble / boom from our shop on Eglinton & Dixie before the smoke cloud went up. Believed it was a failed terrorist attack / hijacking for a couple minutes
How loud was the explosion where you were? Thought we heard a deep rumble / boom from our shop on Eglinton & Dixie before the smoke cloud went up. Believed it was a failed terrorist attack / hijacking for a couple minutes
Canadian Pride.....not sure where you were but the weather was terrible. I was having lunch by FedEx watching planes and listening to the tower for 45 minutes. I even tuned in the ATIS to get the report from that and it said it was not good arriving in to Toronto. The weather was terrible the entire time I was there. That is why I left and it was only maybe 10 minutes before this crash.
It says right in the video that the weather was so bad that the airport declared a red alert. Ground crews couldnt even work on the planes it was so dangerous. Severe storms, high winds and lightning.
I now just click the thumb up as soon as each one of these videos starts. Every single one of them has been excellently put together. Kudos to the content creator!
Amazing video, plus FINALLY YOU ARE BACK! ❤️❤️❤️
Thanks man! But... i never left lol. I upload every Friday!
TheFlightChannel oh... For me that was months... 😂
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It’s amazing that everyone made it.
Another well created video.Great job man!
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I live in Toronto and I remember the storm that rolled thru that day. It came up in a second, and I was hiding in the garden center of the Home Depot watching the clouds roll thru. It was vicious and one of those sudden summer storms because of the humidity. They should have been put in a holding pattern.
Air France didn't use that livery in 2005 (it was introduced only in 2009). But I understand that finding the correct livery for FSX can be tricky. Also, you could have mentioned the fire that followed the crash and explains why the plane was so completely destroyed when the crash itself wasn't that catastrophic, but the passengers had all been safely evacuated before the fire consumed the plane. Other than these two remarks, very good work, as usual! :-)
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Can't stop watching your video dude. Great work!! Loved it
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I've been watching your videos, and they absolutely amazing, you're very talented! I don't know if you take requests, but I would love to see Helios Airways flight 522. Sorry if you don't take requests, and you're videos are great!
You got your wish! That was cool of him.
the fact that no one died is incredible given the state of the wreckage.
Pearson is an excellent airport with long, forgiving runways which saved thier lives
Nicely done! Great Video.
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think, cause he noticed that the Touchdown was to late...
I was #1 in line for departure for this event. The rain had just started and the body of the storm had yet to hit. From short final, a go around would not have been pretty either due to the severity of the storm. We declined takeoff clearance. I remember the AF guys as being way above a normal glidepath and we both commented on the obviously unstabilized approach. Then we saw smoke but were facing the opposite direction so didn't see them go off the end. For those who blame the airport, we plan landings to stay within the confines of the runway plus a factor for safety. The crew screwed the pooch on this one.
Good job mate you do deserve 1 million subs great work keep it up
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I was flying back from Europe the day before this crash happened. The pilots of our plane were fighting the winds during landing and it would lift us up really fast, then push us down. It felt like a rollercoaster ride that lasted 10 min and I felt like throwing up (but didn't). The storage compartments were opening above our heads and everyone was silent, that kind of anxious silence where you're wondering if you will survive. As we were getting off the plane, someone asked "who landed this plane?" and the flight attendant replied "the wind". The winds that whole week felt like mini tornadoes on the ground, so I can imagine they were swirling harder up in the atmosphere. I don't know how well the instruments record wind direction and force, but I can tell you there was a lot of force.
The way the wreckage looks I can't believe everyone lived! So sorry for the captain. What a stupid mistake made by the co-pilot...wow. Good video as always!
Please give a ' like ' for the 10 Flight Attendants who risked their lives to save 297 passengers. They were the ONLY reason that everybody got out of the aircraft alive.
They were the last to leave the aircraft. They directed, and even pushed the passengers out of only 4 available exits.
This was at a rate of roughly one passenger almost every *SECOND* , out of each exit door. 4 passengers safely out, in less than 2 seconds.
200 passengers out in one minute. Outstanding work. Almost unbelievable.
These statistics were verified by fire crews. They were amazed that the entire aircraft was close to empty by the time they got there, in only one minute or more.
Many passengers voluntarily caught the people rocketing down chutes. Those passengers deserve great credit, too.
TheFlightChannel. You are just awesome. Your videos n especially air crash investigation ones are excellent. Keep going!!
I've seen other crash videos where the plane wasn't nearly as damaged and people were killed. A true miracle
Your work is just *incredible* !!!
Love ur work m8👌🏻✔️
Thanks a lot man!!
i dont know what to tell u .as your channel is my favorite..nice vid
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Yay! Your almost at 1M subs!! Good job!
I find it amazing that there were NO fatalities!!!!
I'm now on disability due to Crohn's disease and PTSD, but at that time I was an Advanced Care Paramedic in Toronto and I was one of the first Toronto ambulances on scene at this event. I made a video about it called "Josh Yaks about his CRAZIEST experience in 16 years of working as a paramedic!"
I love these crash investigation videos they’re very informative and interesting to watch. 👍
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OMG!! i did not know about this accident..but looking at this wreckage,it's amazing people were able to walk away from all this. Once again you did well in recreating this moment, very well done.
Awesome video. Great work as always
I prefer this style way more than the one we have today I can't lie it's just better
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I remember that Allec Joshua Ibay did a video on this incident.I think he does Air Disaster videos pretty well,but you remaster them.Kudos to you,FlightChannel!
I love this music. Excellent vid as always!
My 95 year old Gammy was on the flight. You can see her waving to us @7:14. She is at the 4th window from the front. She lost a foot in the accident.
It got stuck up in the gentleman's hiney sitting in front of her.
Great channel, great video. I've watched them all and absolutely loved it. I don't fly anymore though, thanks to the author :))
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Do you still ride in cars? Or drive one? Airplanes are much safer.
So many people mention the first responders...They were great!
But this accident more than any other brought the responsibility of the flight attendants to the fore. They were the ones that maintained order and got everyone out!
There was a Mayday episode about the training flight attendants receive...It's quite impressive.
NEARLY 4000 FEET past the start of the runway before it touched down on a wet runway that's only 8500 feet to begin with? What part of GO AROUND did that FO not understand? That's what you do when you obviously overshoot your approach....Why was the captain hollering to the FO to "PUT IT DOWN!? He should have taken over the controls and GONE AROUND.
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Wow. They were all so lucky. Thank you for posting.
U make me wanna understand more all of the air and planes. And with that sound effect? Im feeling im watching a trailer!
Another outstanding video my friend! Love the music you use, where do you get it from?
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idk where but literally if you just google the flight channel music, it is the first video/somewhere there video that comes up
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RIP, A340. You sacrificed yourself to save everyone.
I just love your videos! Keep up, bro ^-^
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The captain should be that kind of guy who has 4 kids and for a family car he buys a mini cooper. LOL
Good job on the vid! I live in Toronto as well and go to Toronto Pearson Airport 😍👍🏻
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Everyone survived and nobody died. That's a great relief.
Amazing! Great work again
Thanks a lot man!
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I remember this day, as it happened just few months after I moved to Toronto, the crash was right adjacent to the major highway.
Awesome. Thank God I'm early. Great video!
Thanks man!!
This guy is a ball of creativity and perfection!