Victoria Martens: Butchered On Her 10th Birthday
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The Case of Victoria Martens, Michelle Martens, Fabian Gonzales, and Jessica Kelley
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U all gonna cover the Adnan Syed case from Woodlawn Maryland? He was just released from prison
I'm really hoping the suspects black eyes. Came from the cops mistakenly helping them safely get into police 🚔 vehicles a few times .
Is that a new baby? I don't think I've seen that kit before ?
F ur channel
We can't leave comments on your new video from today. I was in tears. It may be a good thing. Let us parents calm down before we leave comments?
I can't stand the type of woman who cannot be single for 5 minutes, who brings strange men in and out of her kids lives. Grow up.
I agree. Reminds me of this girl on Facebook that I know. She can never be alone to figure herself out for ten minutes. She has a new boyfriend that she calls her "soulmates" every other month its a different guy that she's in "love" with. It's just really annoying lol. And the guys that she dates all seem to have a lot of issues. She needs to be alone to heal and to learn who she is, but for some reason she can't be and all it's doing is adding to her trauma when her new boyfriend dumps her and then she's off to get with another before even trying to heal from the last breakup. Seems like some sort of addiction almost.
I know, it’s so pathetic and dangerous! Quit bringing randos and creeps around your defenceless children 😢
@@oksure900 yesssss!🎯💯🎯💯
Amen! It’s pathetic.
Totally agree. I personally despise them.
I swear drug offenders receive harsher punishment, than child murderers. What a sick sad world we live in. I truly hope that these monsters in some way or form, get the karma that they do deserve.
Literally disgusting how people are still serving time for weed charges from the 90s and a child r*pist serve a few short year and are free. Sometime I hate America.
Exactly!!
@@PerrisN Sad but so very true!
It’s a small consolence to know that they might make up for the limited time they have with someone who would hurt a kid.
Drug “offenders” ? 😂 I’d love to hear your argument as to why they should receive “more harsh” sentencing than murderers.. addiction is a hell of a lot different than murder. Your statement is by far the most Ill informed opinion I’ve ever heard. You have zero scientific, or psychological evidence that supports your statement. 😂
I’m sick of women choosing a man over their children. My mom had me sleeping on random men’s couches as a kid and I always felt 2nd to some random dude. I make good and well sure men know they’ll be gone long before my kids have to feel any type of way wrong about them. It kills me how people bring these kids into the world just to dump them on the planet with the wolves to survive
Yap same here dont speak to her at all anymore i end up in bordingschools and foster care got beaten and r**ed gave me allot of trauma never got over but still raised my kids with there dad rven tho whe broke up 11 years ago ma kids are now 12...15. ..16 and 21 never date cabt do what ma mother did
@@Samanta-van-laar we’re much better off! ❤️
I'm always joking with my friends that I'll start dating again in my 60s when my daughter's well into her own grown up life.
I can't ever comprehend a woman putting men or drugs (that was my mother's priority) before their children.
wish my mother would do the same for me as you'd do for your kids :(
I hear ya. My mom chose an abusive husband. My step father treated my brother and I horribly. He made me get a low paying minimum wage job so he could take more than half of my paycheck. They locked all of the food up, wouldn't allow me to take showers, do laundry, use the internet, cook on the stove or watch TV. I was a PAYING tenant and I wasn't even allowed basic tenant rights. Plus he hit my brother and I with a belt constantly and my mom stood by and let all of this go on. He was the first person I ever watched die. I let him go peacefully even when I had a lot to say. I'm 35 now and still carry a lot of trauma due to what my mom let happen. I don't even know why I still talk to her. I've had to be in therapy for the past ten years of my life
I was a heroin, fentanyl and crack addict and an escort for many years. Then I was arrested and went to jail and found out I was pregnant when I got there. My son forced me to change my life. A complete 180. Truly, my unconditional love FOR HIM is why I'm sober for over 3 years and why I'll never go back. I'm saying this bc I would do anything for my son. I would die for him. I do not understand how anyone, but especially mothers, could do something so awful to their own children. How can you bring a monster like David around your child? I just don't understand!!!!!
Edit: thank you for the comments!! I just celebrated 5 years sober yesterday (7/6/2024) and start school to become a nurse in the fall 😚
you r not alone. great shit is in ur future babe!!!!!!!!. thank u
You’ve got this!!!
My daughter’s father was not a nice man during her toddler years - thankfully nothing against our daughter, but because of alcohol abuse and past opioid abuse it was towards myself… long story short, he has now been sober almost 5 years, we are not a couple, but he is my good, good friend. Because I always fostered their relationship, he has a have a great relationship with his daughter now. The love for a child definitely changes you and your priorities, I don’t understand how these mothers can make such bad choices regarding their children…
Bravo to you 🎉
There are some women who are not born with nurturing abilities born with black hearts.
Also there are sooo many women that are not happy if they don't have a man, so they will choose some random pieces of a sorry brainless drug addict over their child and care less for their safety just to keep that man around! My thoughts is that the other man was their dealer and they owed this man.
I'm glad that your child made you change your life. I wish you well.
If "someone attempting to do something is not a crime" then why is attempted murder a crime?
I swear I lose more and more faith in the "justice" system every day
Idem....A shame that the justice system prefer to put bank robber 139 years and child murderers even do 7 years and they are back in the streets to murder again.....
So sad , and frustration are always at the menu ..
Right?? Like isn’t there an ATTEMPTED murder charge
Dude, the police never fail to infuriate me on cases that could have been prevented entirely, like this. Attempting to molest a child isn’t a fucking crime?? Attempted murder, like you said, isn’t a fucking crime?! Miss me with that bullshit.
It suggests to me that the jury has been manipulated, which happens more often than you think...Or the judge is corrupt and trying to influence law like rode v wade.
Very murky areas.
His name is Fred Duran and he was at the time the spokesperson for the Albuquerque Police Department. He has since been fired. After a statement like that, I'd say his firing was a good thing.
That poor sweet girl had a STI (HPV). That wasn’t addressed by the police it seems. There is absolutely no other way a young girl can get cervical HPV than from abuse. So her murderer is free, as is her abuser (likely 2 different people at minimum).
DISGUSTING!!!! 😢🤢🤮
All those who harm any child, especially something as vicious and heinous as this case deserves a slow and very painful death! 😡 No, if, and or buts.
*Bring back mid-evil torture devices* !!!!!!
@@LynnAgain83 we should have justified torture. Like legal cruel and unusual punishment!
@@LynnAgain83 SPOT ON ! Vile MONSTERS !
There is one way. That is, if the cervical HPV or other STI came from sexual activity with another child. Granted, if it was forced on her, the other child could be charged with rape or similar abuse. But, little children do "experiment" with each other. How the other child got it though would be open to debate.
@@rudra62 We all know how she got it. It was not from another child, don't be stupid.
I’m also a local and know someone who used to work with Victoria’s mom. She said that Michelle was really naive and kind of childlike. She said she didn’t take very good care of herself and never had food to eat. I guess she would just forget to bring food and she didn’t have a car, so my friend would bring her food knowing she’d need it.
All I know is I’m disgusted that any person could do this to a child. My hometown failed Victoria.
What's awful to me as well is that she had kids in the first place.
Why it's not court ordered to be on birth control I cannot understand.
I have a sister-in-law like this woman who does whatever she pleases but has to get drug screened and take bc regularly.
@@LisaPFrampton why
The system failed Victoria, the same system that takes kids from loving caring parents also leaves the children that should be taken to a better home. And every hometown has that same system 😔
@@LisaPFrampton It's not court ordered to be on birth control because the name for that is eugenics and historically it's turned out very badly.
I'm also a local, I sometimes hate this place.
Mothers choosing their boyfriends over their children! So pathetic!
Happens a lot, makes me so mad..
As one of my old Great Great Aunts used to say "An alley cat's a better mother than some of these damn women"
@@arlaabrell8658 im gonna use that
Couldn't agree with you more! I just can't understand that mentality. I'll be damned if ANYONE is coming into my home & putting their hands on my kids. I'm not that desperate for a man. I mean, really? I just don't get it.
Is that what you got from this??
It's infuriating that in an attempt to get a guilty plea and avoid trials, the DA made such shitty deals, not giving any real justice to poor Victoria. At least one of these people know who this supposed guy is. RIP, little one🙏💜
I can't understand why since they have an unknown male's DNA wouldn't do a familial dna search for such a horrific murder unless the prosecutors office is more worried about it affecting the convictions they got already over a murderous deviant on the loose.
@@khernandez7903 Only 12 states allow for familial database searches & I think only if all other avenues of investigation have been exhausted.
@@jasonmorris7764 , good info. I just took it for granted that every state did it. I learned something 👍
The pleas should make them disclose who the dna belongs to bc they’ve got to know…
@@khernandez7903 IMO, The authorites should have the option in all states to use public databases for cases of violent crime. We've seen over recent years the number of cold cases being solved, closure to relatives and the perpetrator bought to justice if still alive.
Shout-out to the mother who chased the kidnappers and rescued her child.
Only for the justice system to tell her the child's life was worthless unless it died. 'Oh, your kid was kidnapped that's cute please let her die next time so we can arrest the guy' -police
@@finnsnow2495yup that’s how the justice system works… I was stalked for MONTHS by this random guy. He’d leave “gifts” which were usually lingerie and call me daily from different numbers. He’d sit outside of my house and even threatened to rape me. I reported it to the cops but was told “since he’s never actually done anything to you physically, it’s not a crime”
People get charged with murder without the police even findind a body! With little to no evidence! How none of them were charged in this little girls murder is mind blowing in my opinion. r.i.p. Victoria.
That is actually terrifying getting convinced on little to no evidence is the green Mile all over again sometimes people should think maybe there is no clear way to handle shit
This is EXACTLY why you should have to apply yes apply to be a parent .
she couldn’t even form a sentence without a double negative there’s no way she would have passed .
I believe everyone should have to take a test before they have kids.
Every adoptive parent and every foster parent is assessed by the state as a suitable person- that doesn't work
@@RedRobin1212 ??? As a given it's better than nothing. There will always be cracks, but with nothing in place that crack is a void.
Unfortunately intelligence doesn’t mean a person will be a good parent and vice versa. But learning disabled (or other wise high risk of abuse/neglect) parents should be receiving extra support, education and supervision.
@@hallievanoutryve3109 I agree. This type of stuff hits home because I have a cousin that has been diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipolar. She has 2 kids that she can't really take care of by herself, and lives with her mother who she treats extremely poorly, including being physical. She's stated multiple times she doesn't want her kids, and that she wants her mother dead. It's really scary and tragic at the same time.
Gruesome case. Unfortunately the mother would always be susceptible to ending up with the wrong guys who could easily take advantage and manipulate her due to to her learning disability and probably a low sense of self worth. What Michele really needed was someone close to her who would look out for her, but she in turn would have needed to heed their advice. I'm from London, UK and remember this case very well, I think it was reported over here, but not 100% sure.
Nope not that excuse, her Azz knew the difference, and the type of men she was choosing over her child and her child's safety, she sure as hell was smart enough to make plea bargains.
@@krossrose5416
Plea bargains are often presented because the district attorney doesn't have enough evidence to prove their case. If they want ANY prison time...a plea bargain is the answer.
In THIS case, they can't prove WHO murdered Victoria...it could have been the man that left his DNA, but if he hasn't committed a different felony, his DNA wouldn't be in the system.
This case should definitely take advantage of familial DNA because this case NEEDS to be solved.
As tragic as it is that nobody can be charged with her death is because they can't figure out WHO it was that murdered her. They have 4 different people that could have done it. That would be a hung jury for sure, possibly a not-guilty finding. The DA certainly doesn't want that to happen, and neither do we!
@@krossrose5416 i think both can be true honestly. Her low self worth IQ can be a factor to an extent into why she did this. Shes seems quite competent in other areas so I see it as an excuse in this case. We aren’t given much to go off of in regards to how severe her learning disability is.
@@krossrose5416 Plea bargains would have been negotiated with advice from her legal team, but I'm not saying she isn't partly to blame, she is, just that there seems to have been little support provided for someone who really needed it.
Please note that the words "learning disability" are having disabilities like autism spectrum disorder adhd ect. This is what I have been taught and have always believed was true why does a low i.q count as a learning disability please explain I am confused
I LOVE that the cops made Jessica get up and walk not giving two damns about her foot after she jumped off the balcony!
I was waiting for you guys to cover this case. I’m from Albuquerque and this case traumatized everyone it’s abhorrent
Live in Burque too,watched the trial.
Burqueno here too... I remember this so vividly... but its so strange how its rarely covered on TH-cam
@@Amanda.O.C. been watching the news and FG n MM are supposed to be sentenced this month, hope they give him life!each time I see something on utube about this, they're always behind and refer this case from 4 years ago 🤷and it keeps getting farther from the truth 😔
@@jenniferornelas4151 it has taken FAR to long to get any little bit of justice- because no sentence could ever really bring true justice in my mind for that poor little girl
@@Amanda.O.C. 💯😔
Rest in peace beautiful Victoria, you are safe and loved with the Angels. You did absolutely nothing wrong and it's important that you know this.
I remember when this came out. I couldn't watch the entire vid back then it was so heartbreaking. Now, my daughter is 10. I just cannot fathom the hell this precious baby went through. I would die if my daughter had to endure even a fraction of what that innocent little girl went through.... our hearts are with you. You've not been forgotten princess.
Such a sad story, poor Victoria. I can only imagine how alone she felt, her brother has got to be devastated still.
@tyski brown yes he did, he was staying with his father for the weekend at the time of the murder. Unfortunately he and his sister didn’t share the same father biologically and Michelle was a piece of work.
Did that guy really say attempted sexual assault / harrassment on a child isn't breaking the law?
Yup. His name is Fred Duran and he was at the time the spokesperson for the Albuquerque Police Department. He has since been fired.
I was visiting my mom in New Mexico during summer and fall break. I always passed my the apartments when we went places. I never knew her but I was the same age as her and when I found out it hurt My heart my mom cried bc it hurt her too. I hope she's in heaven.
This is the best explanation of this horrible situation I've heard. This poor little girl. It was her birthday, and she spent it like this. This is horrible.
I was subscribed to this channel for a long time but noticed I had not seen any new videos so I went looking and found I was unsubscribed, I resubscribed right away. Your videos have always been great but they have grown in quality exponentially in the last year. Thanks for all the work you guys put in.
Edit.. I wrote the first part of this comment before the very end. I had no idea you guys were sick. I did notice she was not visible but thought nothing of it because I was so engrossed in the story.. you guys did not fail to provide a damn good video.. together. I hope you feel better soon.
Cps in Albuquerque is a complete joke .
The whole US.
I can't believe how much this channel has grown in the last 2 years. Congratulations Yergy & Drewby! Hope you hit 1 million soon!
Thank you Adrienne!! Fingers crossed that we get there. Thanks for sticking with us for as long as you have ❤️
Thank you guys for being the voice for these victims and innocent children may God bless you guys 💓
Thank you so much!!! ❤️
Yessss
Between auditing police videos, police brutality, and the courts giving sweetheart deals like this WHILE making petty criminals LEGAL SLAVES....I think we need a complete overhaul of the justice system
I've watched a few of these episodes and I think it's very brave of you to tackle this horrible subject. I remember when I had my son 31 years ago, he was failing to thrive. At the same time, my friend's baby daughter had a mysterious red, scaldy rash. I was accused of neglect and my friend was accused of scalding her baby with boiling water. Obviously, this wasn't the case. My son had a genetic defect and her daughter was allergic to material in her clothes. When we got over the shock and trauma of somebody thinking we would actually deliberately harm our newborns, we had to admit that if by accusing 10 parents, they find 1,well then it's worth it. Every single child is worth it. Keep up the stories. They need to be heard. Each story could possibly alert someone to make that vital call.
I've been following this story for a couple of years now and I can't believe these twists and turns! I don't think we'll ever know what happened here.
And maybe it's better so ! ☝😞
It sucks because I know the woman who was Governor during this time (Suzanna Martinez) so I have a bit of background on the case. We had also just recently had another child murdered in a road rage incident and people were rightly outraged. So the Governor, who’s husband was in law enforcement and she had been DA for several terms, was trying to be really harsh on these types of crimes. Unfortunately they tried to push through the case too quickly which is what led to so much of the case being thrown out. Victoria hasn’t received justice and likely won’t. So utterly heartbreaking and enraging.
My girlfriend took the call for the road rage incident; after she took a call for a man SAing an 8 yr old then lit the rv office killing them both. ABQ gets wild. But then so does los Lunas with 12 year olds arsoning adult drug dealers.
Ugh also what baby Brianna went through
You knew Suzanna? Were her parties as legendary as people claimed? Lol
And yes, I'm also originally from Albuquerque and I had an acquaintance who had a gun pointed at her by an unknown guy during a road rage incident. She even got a picture of it and I don't think anything ever happened.
R.I.P to this sweet little girl and god bless the family members who actually cared about her in the long run
human trafficking your own child should get the worst prison time and level registry
Thanks for reminding me how infuriating this case is even more if you’ve seen the arrest footage
Yeah, this is one that has and will always stick with me. Idky but I get a very dark vibe from Jessica. I think she's more guilty than she let on.
Idk. Though..
You guys are doing awesome. I get picky about the crime/criminal psychology channels I watch, and I enjoy this one. I like how you guys take turns talking, and you both have good voices for this. You guys deserve to get big!
I really appreciate the kind words and I'm honored that you enjoy us. Thank you!
Every 'adult' in this 'home' are disgusting, evil monsters. So incredibly self absorbed! This young girl must have been terrified!! I can't even fathom being in that house. I don't think any of them should have been given a plea deal. There was no reason for that. And why? no one has been charged in this girl's death is inconceivable. I really wonder what was going on in this Investigation. It sounds half-assed. A Shame. This girl deserved a Life.
It’s nice to see this channel is growing so quickly. I know y’all bust your butts to get these videos uploaded on a regularly consistent basis….. so thanks 🙏🏼
Thank you so much! A lot of people don't seem to realize the work we put into these every week and how sometimes we have to work every day to get it ready to go for Monday. I really appreciate you taking the time to say something nice about that ❤️
Dear god, may these 3 be punished forever and a day by fellow inmates because you know they'll be repeat offenders. So disgusted by these deals that are made by DAs,shouldn't be happening. That in itself is a crime 🤬🤬
See,if god was,real,this would have nvr happened in the first place.period.
That poor little girl was failed from the start by her mother, and things only got worse with her horrible ongoing choices regarding her daughter.
Every time I hear these stories, I have to admit that I try to imagine doing it myself, and it's just like holy shit, How does somebody even begin to decide to do this, it's demonic...
im a heroin/fentanyl/carfentanil and polysubstance addict, and i cannot fathom doing this to my own child, if i had one.
I try to see things from their end too. Like what is this mindset that leads to this evil. I can't imagine looking at a loved one and thinking to kill them. I accidentally smashed a lizard once and felt awful for the rest of the day and even buried it. These sick murderers are just a different breed. Its almost crazy how we have developed no way to detect them for sure, like how we have the IQ test, but for testing demented minds
Thankyou very much for covering this tragic case while also having covid! U guys r amazing and the most respectful people I've come across in reference to the victims. Feel better soon!🙏🙏🙏
Oh no not Covid .
Can imagine what any of the neighbors feel especially the one who took her in after getting off the bus .. not their fault at all but that's something a human can't shake .
I'm from Albuquerque, and this absolutely broke our hearts. She was a victim of abuse for some time before the murder, that's not really talked about. We were horrified, and continue to be horrified.
So, I really appreciate you highlighting this absolute (ONGOING) tragedy, and for one of the first times, talking about the horrible abuse before the murder. We are still enraged, especially since our child protective system is so understaffed and behind on most all cases, and our judicial system is abhorently backlogged, that these people are JUST NOW, getting their judgements passed, yet we still haven't found the John Doe.... Sickening.
Cases like these both break my heart and drive me crazy. She chose a deadbeat criminal over her babies. He was barely contributing to the household by cleaning, not even supporting them financially. How could Michelle choose those POSs over the safety of her children, ESPECIALLY after what happened with her previous partner????
This case still pisses me off! No one has paid for this precious child’s murder! Her sexual abuse hasn’t been answered for either! And to top it off it was her birthday:(
May none of those creatures get a moments rest….
Rest In Peace Victoria ❤ 🎂 🎈
This is heartbreaking 💔 rest easy beautiful girl. Some people really don't deserve kids 😢
It’s too new to meet the family but it’s alright to live in her home with her children. Women who move in and allow men to play dad to their children are so disappointing. Any man that is fine with coming into your home is disgusting!
The banned word substance is likely behind all the crazy actions and inactions that led to this tragedy. Jessica is probably largely to blame for the death, although because she was paranoid delusional at the time it’s true that the mystery monster man is the only one who could potentially shed some light on the actual events.
She is capable of it without mhte....a peado is a peado, substance abuse is not a reason, although sometimes it's used as an excuse.
Who I bet would be their Dealer, whom they owed that's why he came looking for them.
i actually live in new mexico,i live super close to the apartments and at the mariposa park i see her memorial i remember the whole story i even know people who went to school with her when they were younger
Just opened the video, hope everyone’s having a good day !
There is always an authentic positive spiritual feeling for the lost souls that you speak of. Please stay the same, and get well.
What a repulsive, disgusting story. I just don’t understand what goes through some peoples mind. R. I.P sweet angel.
Obviously they dont have a single brain cell to rely on.
Victoria's beyond horrific murder has had a huge impact on our community here in Albuquerque, NM.
When I was 10 I touched bugs. Now I'm mid 20's and a grasshopper lands on me and i freak tf out.
Hello, we appreciate your efforts to bring these quality videos to TH-cam. If you guys are sick we understand if you take a break. Take care of yourselves.
Thank you! We appreciate it. Maybe it will happen one day, but for now we thought we could still do it.
I also wanted to thank you for bringing awareness to the effects of child maltreatment. I’m graduating in January with an MS degree in forensic psychology. I hope to become a therapist. We need awesome people like you to help these vulnerable populations
Congratulations on getting your MS, and thank you for being willing to work in this field. There's not enough folks out there like you!
@@TheMiseryMachine thanks
Oh…they’ve been sick? Is that why they relied so heavily on free stock footage? They used so much of it, that whenever they inserted something from the actual case it was almost jarring.
If that’s not how they usually do videos, cool. But if this is par for the course…yikes.
Well wishes to the family of Victoria. Great video
Thank you so much!!
Rest in the peace of the Lord, sweet angel
My mom’s boyfriend would beat me anywhere but the face.
I remember once, when I was 9, when it was about 9:30 PM. My baby brothers’ bottle nipple had been chewed through by our cat.
Mom was still out hooking.
He threw a dollar at me and told me to walk to the nearest store. We lived alongside a railroad, that wasn’t fenced. And was dark as midnight.
I was scared.
He ended up punching me in the back of the head, sending me flying into the living room table.
Another time, there was a problem with the water outside (I’m still not sure what It was, or what I did wrong)
It was spraying all over the yard. (As usual, mom as out makin money)
I was so scared.
This “man” punched, not hit, me when I was a 9 year old girl.
One time, we were living in a one room hotel room, with my baby brother. He and mom were fighting. Mom slept on the bed with my baby brother, I slept on the floor on one of those cheap air mattresses. He went from the door to the window, banging on them. He ended up breaking thru the window over my head, then grabbing up my mom and started punching her. I got my baby brother into his playpen and left, running down the halls. The people that owned the hotel just closed the window in my face🙃. (This was 1982)
Once, it was early and I was meant to get up for school. (I always was scared to get changed around him, particularly alone. Reasons withheld)
I was being ballsy. Mom was on the strip, and brother was asleep.
The alarm went of, and I just mumbled “screw you”.
Oooo, he straddled me and punched the crap outta me.
But stopped early enough to preserve my ability to go to school.
Police were called by friends’ parents a t least once, but they’d stand there with my mom and her bf standing behind them.
I knew I’d have to get out of that closet and go to our apartment.
I had to lie.
What else could I do?
I had no family.
I was to small to know what to do.
It took till I was 14 to start leaving, and 16 to get my own place.
That’s it. At least a tiny bit.
I’ve unloaded on no one, but I still feel a bit less painfully full.
Cool beans!😅
But STILL, never as bad as what this poor child went thru.
Just amazing that no one stepped in.
People. I know it feels weird to do, especially in some areas or rules of “no snitchin “.
Check it out; helping a small child is NOT snitching.
Not snitching, is being a selfish bitch.
My brother and I went thru hell, and everyone knew it. And no one cared.
No one.
We were alone in the world.
Just think how the kid feels….
I am so sorry that you had to go through these things 😪💔 So Glad for you Getting out Alive. Lots of Love and Many Blessings to You Always 🙏💙
@@lorettaalvarez3655 I really appreciate you taking the time to see the pain that we went thru. Everyone has their own struggles and challenges. I don’t believe that I’ve had it harder than anyone else. What I do believe, is that I’d be grateful to be there for anyone going through a strange and twisted childhood. Unfortunately, someone like me, who understands the challenges and pain involved with growing up having gone thru such challenges and stress.
I own a condo. But I’m not married. I live with my 20 yr old daughter. We are about as healthy as you can get. I would like nothing more than to take in young people going through things that they feel leaves them alone in the world of “normal” people.
Unfortunately, the very people that could truly help young people going through these stressors, are pretty much barred from helping.
Cause we ain’t rich enough? Cause we don’t live in upper class areas? Or have manipulated the system to enjoy the money paid to care for these vulnerable children?
I can smell unfairness, and this is the case, far too often.
Bless these youngsters, and I can only hope that they are lucky enough to be matched with kindhearted, emotionally generous people.
And that’s all I got to say about that.
I'll never understand how a human being could be so cruel and abusive, especially when their victim is their own child. This is absolutely heartbreaking!💔
❤Thank you for being our children’s voices ❤❤❤
That poor sweet angel. RIP Victoria. May GOD deal with those responsible, as the justice systems in modern societies are guilty of abandoning the victim and crime, in order to coddle and shield these disgusting criminals.
How in the world could she let this happen to her little girl that she apparently loved... Low IQ or not that makes no sense that is so terrible... These people are horrible
Demonic influenced from the drugs, they are a portal for the evil ! ☝👹
Her low IQ didn't get in the way of her knowing enough to lie and to make a plea bargaining, that low IQ thing is a joke.
Rest in peace, sweet Victoria. I wish you were still here with us.
This story is devastating! I heard it from another channel a while back and it took everything to hold back tears! !
Thank you for finally bringing light on this story🤗👍 I've been trying to get someone to show it for years!
I remembered when this happened. I lived a mile down the road from the apartments. My friends little sister even went to school with her. They weren’t in the same class, but would play with her with mutual friends. This case has always devastated me
Thank you for doing this story. I hadn't heard any sort of update of what was going on in a cpl years. It blows my mind that 2 out of 3 suspects that have lengthy criminal records were there and dismembered a child aren't getting more severe sentences. I hope they find a match to the mystery guys DNA. It is so upsetting thinking about what that lil girl went thru. RIP Victoria
You know they don't talk about none of these stories on the news. My first time hearing this story. GOD BLESS her precious soul!!
These details don’t add up to what the mother said about wanting to watch her daughter be SA. Didn’t the child have an std?
Yes but it was already there,she was abused by Michelle's x boyfriend, also hpv is inherited.should read her autopsy if you can stomach it.😔
@@jenniferornelas4151 hpv aint inherited. Where did you hear that?!!
@@allabored4443 OBGYN 🤷
How did these wonderfully kind and beautiful people find one another? 😒
Law of attraction, they have the same low vibration and mindset ! ☝😔
This is just so heartbreaking. How can a mother pimp their children, their blood out to men. Vile. And then to bring people into their lives, and not protect her.
Rip baby girl.
I remember when this story first broke out. It still doesn’t even feel real. Appreciate the coverage!
I remember hearing about Victoria when this happened & I think about her often. RIP baby girl.
I've been watching your channel for a couple weeks now. You are really great at telling the story, and in such a professional way. Thank you 2 for that! While all of the stories are heart wrenching, this story has an effect on me. I haven't watched it yet. Because I've heard the story before. When I watched it before I didn't handle it well. I have a draw to true crime stories. I've watched more than I could count. I always feel so much compassion and sadness for the victims. But when it's children it's very hard on me. I'm a mom of 5. I have 3 angelic granddaughters, and a grandson coming in April. I became a mom at 16. While the stories are heard to hear about. I usually am still glad I listened. I feel like every time a new person learns about the victim/victims, that's there life being remembered once again. So that they're never forgotten. Listening to this story, I almost wasn't able to finish. But I made myself. For the precious little Victoria.
I truly have become a fan, and it makes me want to watch the story told in your special way. I'm just not ready tonight.... I'm sure I'll get there... but the last time I didn't rest well for a couple weeks. I couldn't quit remembering it for a while. I cried so much my eyes swelled up. So it'll take time.
Thanks again for giving the victims a voice to tell their stories 💜
I recently discovered your guys’ channel and have binged watched your videos! You guys do a stellar job at narrating the story with personal comments as well. This may sound weird but I listen to your videos while I work, it makes me focus for some reason. Keep up the amazing work!
That's not weird at all! We have many people who listen to us at work, and we're happy to keep you company while you do the same! Thank you so much for the kind words!
For anyone else that lives here in Albuquerque, there’s a memorial for sweet Victoria at the Mariposa Basin Park in Taylor Ranch you can visit. I remember watching the live news broadcast when this was happening. It’s so so heartbreaking. Everytime I pass the apartment complex this happened at I get chills thinking of how this sweet baby suffered. 🕊️ I think of Victoria so often around this time of year. RIP beautiful girl 🫶🏼 👼 🌈
Thanks for going in-depth on this horrific crime. Hope both y’all have a speedy recovery ❤
This is beyond evil! Rest in Peace little angel...
As someone who’s been smoking weed for 10 years, passing a drug test for work means nothing! 🤣🤣
I don't believe the mother didn't do drugs. She has meth face... It is more than obvious. They were all high she knew there was meth on the table so she knew they were doing drugs in a house where she had a her child and she was doing drugs with them. You look at older photos and newer ones her jaw line is completely different so Meth addiction! Cases like this make me so angry. She admitted to seeking out to pimp her daughter too sick.
took me a while to figure out what "S.A." means: ¿essay? ¿essaying? ¿essayed? ¿South America?
now there's a new one: D.V. (10:09-10:10)
i just looked it up.
and when i heard "C.A.", i wondered why California was being mentioned in this story. (20:00-20:01)
I just love and appreciate you two. I enjoy being able to go back and re-watch old videos that I may have listened to during work and wasn't able to give 100% attention to. Thank you guys for always putting out great work and consistent work!!! 💜💙 much love!
No words...... Rest in paradise sweet 😇.. 💙
That's what you think there's a terrible drug problem in prisons. Like I would not be surprised if she got her drug in prison for like three times the amount that it's worth. Because people will literally do that like how many times have we heard of prison guards supplying it for sexual favors? Like I would not be surprised.
I still remember this story/case til this very day and it still breaks my heart💔 when I hear or think about what this young girl endured.😢
This case is a great example of why its ok for cops to lie in interrogations.
it's stories like this one that make me hope what I have heard about ''prison justice'' is correct.
This just in: attempting to commit a crime is not a crime. Everyone in for attempted murder is immediately released and their charges are to be erased. How could we have gone this long without realizing that?
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Thanks for the OUTSTANDING Content!! I hope y'all get feeling better soon, thanks for doing all of that work while sick! Y'all are AWESOME!!!! Keep up the good work guys!! I look forward to your weekly uploads!! 👍💜😷🤧🤒
This poor child no one was watching out for her they didn't even care it was her special day her 10 birthday
I hope that she is resting in peace ❤️
I hope you both are doing well.
- Amir 🙂
Thanks Amir! It's great to see you back in the comments again ❤️
@@TheMiseryMachine yes, I'm glad to be
If attempting to do something illegal isn't a crime, then what is "attempted murder"? That cop was full od shit.
This is beyond evil. Rest in blissful peace Victoria sent with Motherly love you deserved 💖💔💖💔
Your reporting is first class but what I really love is how you guys love your pets!
Thank you Carleen! They are a part of this show just as much as we are haha ❤️
I am originally from Albuquerque and all I have to say is...stay excellent APD! You're great I have no notes!
I have seen people dead on the street after they were shot or stabbed a couple times but surely Albuquerque is very safe and APD does an *amazing* job.
So many details are being left out of the horrible abuse on Victoria
I'm sure that you tube is the cause
I look forward to your videos. Thank-you.
We look forward to your comments! Thanks for sticking by us for well over a year at this point. Thanks for being here early too!
This was a great episode thank you for doing it while sick❤ and I hope you guys feel better!
Thank you so much Madeleine!! ❤️
I live in Albuquerque and I was 13 at the time when this case was all over the news :(
I remember the memorials that people would hold for her
I have no words.
Wow. So sad. My daughter is 16 and her bday is Aug 25th 2006. I couldn't imagine. Just so messed up.
Mine olmost 16 dec 11
I feel so bad for these kids that really never knew true love from a parent. They don't pick their parents and a parent should love and protect their children against all evil. I did.
😢 but also 😊 because she’s with Heavenly Father in paradise now