Is the Ford Territory a better daily than a Falcon? | fullBOOST
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great to see Turbo Territorys on this channel...good stuff!
355rwkw in my fg2 xr6t, maxx performance tuned. Bigger pump injectors and so on. I get an average of 15.2l per 100 on 98. Heading bush on the freeway to visit my parents I get it down to 8.2l per 100 with cruise set at 100.
I've had 2 mates have the turbo versions with some work and what a car they're so comfortable
We have a Ex cop Terra, not turbo, put a police pack, which the dash lights up police word when the battery is disconnected and re connected ? Its got over 350,000Km still had to spend over 1,500 on bushes ball joints etc, for front end and rear end, plus the first gen with 6 speed sequential auto ,brought it for less than $1,000, on the road all up 3K. :)
Nice clean ride 👌
The Aussie Subaru Forester STI. 🤣
If you're gonna try and be comedic, atleast get it right. It would be the same as an Aussie Subaru Forester XT. The F6X would be the STi version. 😎
Also, these slap a Subaru stupid. 😈💪
more like a BMW X5
Better than both
Had one awhile back 400hp on 98 about 14ltrs per 100 was worth it.. was fun annoying rbs and ls1s
Im in NZ and just bought me another TTGhia (I sold my first one 4 years ago as needed a 4X4 Ute). Now I found one for cheap as (only paid $3600!) Needs some minor work to make it road legal and a bit of rust work. Otherwise its pretty sweet. Going to be an ongoing project and a family weekend driver. I love these beasts. I missed my first one, had to get this next one. Definitely fun to drive even stock. Will look into doing some big mods such as shown on this one but not until I finish the small repairs to get it legal. Oh and who cares about fuel milage, so long as you're enjoying it, who cares. Thats the last thing I think about, life to short to worry about that!
Falcon or Territory?
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An AU Wagon on gas is the ultimate daily, change my mind
id like to have old ford falcon every day, twice on sunday. That other one that was pickup is my favorite. i have 1955 ford pickup when l was young. wish l had it now.
new tee shirt, "screamers don't belong on barras"
I'd buy that
The boys really need to take a ride in YOUR Territory, absolute weapon. 💪
I had a screamer on me once... Told her my name was Barra.
best daily is a good ol AU falcon 😄
Blind chicks dig it.
Hard
Yes... yes it is
Why didnt we get these engines here in the uk... looks like a laugh love to have 1. 😎😎👍👍✌✌👊👊 frm the UK
Not many factory drivelines could still be punching those numbers after those many ks.
To my mind I'd still rather have a Falcon or RWD Territory, at least you can have a manual and there is such a thing as too much grip! ;)
Seen this at Douglas park
Id prefer driving a falcon any day over a territory, much more comfortable to drive, better leg room than the space hogging territory consoles, and all round better driving experience.
cool dude
I have a turbo territory and an fgx xr8 and the territory is definitely the better daily
how much HP can the front end and transfer case take at the drag strip?
Such a shame these never came out in manual
not hard to fix if you have a 2WD terry. same mechanicals.
@Paul Spriggs yea but the transfer doesn't bolt to the back of the manual box im pritty sure ... not a territory expert ... the only appeal is awd barra
shame the sedans, utes or wagons didn't get awd either, manual would be sick
Manuals suck in the sand and mud, and are.slower at the track.
@tturi2 Utes got more traction with the RTV models though, factory rear e locker diff.
It is with a billet barra block and awd....
In saying that a territory cradle will fit in a falcon.
awesome sleeper make some money on a random night street meet in Campbellfield or Dandy sth baiting young bucks 🤣👍🍻
Love these things but the fuel costs put me off. Had an awd ghia back in the day.
Is that tailgate from an SZ?
Lol , take it to the track , let the Bug bite Hard ! Got a BA Barra Wagon to do 124mph down the track , so a Territory can do it too :)
IIRC the thick rods started in 6/06 to coincide with the release of the AWD Territory turbo. The last production date of the thin rods was in the 3/06 sometime and the stock of those engines was used up before the Territory turbo was released with none being in Territories.
This makes all stock Territory turbos the later thick rod engines. Could be wrong... I'm sure someone will tell me otherwise if I am LOL.
You are correct, there are no "weak rod" turbo territory engines they are all Barra 245T made after 06/06 with the fatter rods.
The part numbers on these rods are identical with all turbo engines from 06/06 onward, Territory, BF2/FG XR6T and FPV F6 have the same bottom end.
You can push them hard, same with the ZF if its well serviced and kept cool.
The only real difference is the FPV F6X territory was a BF series 270T which is slightly lower compression and bigger turbo than the FG 270T but the rods/block/crank are the same in any turbo motor after 06/06
Shout out to maxx performance
That filter would be sucking lovely hot air
From the bonnet vent? 🙂
@@fullboost air could be getting forced out of the vent, who knows without testing
I don't think it would matter so much. The intercooler efficiency will determine your AIT not the air filter. 👍
I had a stock ghia turbo average fuel was about 14.7l per hundred
I live in the country so I can improve on that a bit in my awd turbo.
I get between 13.5 & 13.7 on the trip computer.
If I just did straight cruising I don't know what it would improve to.
Friends have 2wd Territories (also country cars) and I've checked theirs and usually say 12.7l/100.
hows the Ltrs per km ?? offft
21l per 100 on ethanol ??? That’s amazing economy geee especially on e85 !!
My 400kw tez used to do 16-17lph on e85, was better than when it was tuned on 98
Territory
HI ALL
OK so we have the AWD 4X4 turbo diesel holden captiva again heavy car sweet car 7 seater were getting 10 lts to 100km so its not to bad but when its $14.00 per gallon ?? deeeeeep pockets lol
Yeah great car and video but I don’t and more then not agree the screamer on boost is what makes noise especially when you hit it and no one expects it,I have a 50 mill gate on my bf typhoon,I love it
Yeah...nah 😬🤣
Is it a stock barra with turbo or done the normal mods, oil pump gears, lines and intercooler etc, or has it got head work, plus rings etc, after all a turbo barra motor is total different especially the rods, still if its a stock barra with a turbo with low KW ie: 350 is nothing to sneeze at for a daily, there's no way you could put a turbo on a stock barra, intercooler, tune etc, without hurting the engine even with a mid tune say 250kw? They are made tough, but older engines will let go?
obviously factory turbo because it has a bonnet scoop...
That and said it was a factory turbo setup
Stock ba motors high k are safe as at 350 kw with a good tune
I wana know when I will start seeing these cars in AU we didn't get in usa start to get imported to us. Cus it hasn't happened yet like all the jdm new yearly imports.
We stopped building cars in Australia 6 years ago...
@@FelixTheHat302 yeah ik that has nothing to do with what I'm talking bout. Has to be 25 years b4 we can import cars. Idk the years for these fords or holdens. Havnt seen any imported from au yet like we see the jdm or euro/middle east cars.
@hyper8545 you havn't seen them in America yet because the Ford Territory is still too new to import for you over there. Even when it is I think it'll still be a relatively slept on car.
@@craigsampson3386 you don't say ;0
@@hyper8545 from 2029 for non turbo Territorys, 2031 for turbo models.
Just bought a territory turbo ghia with 212,000km and it clunks into 1st/2nd and when down shifting. Doesn’t slip tho. Anyone know what could be the issue?
It wouldn't be a Ford without a few clunks. ☺️
Valve body seals ..easy fix change all of them .
21.5 litres per 100 km? Or around $45 on U98. Definitely not a cheap car to daily.
What does a regular Territory get? Around 15L/100km?
That's E85 not 98.
if you want an suv obviously...
not really a very good daily if u consider fuel costs..
an FG xr6 (non turbo) uses about 14 around town and 8 on freeway
a turbo terri uses about 21 town and 10 on freeway.. thats 50% more around town..
a mildly tuned xr6 (non turbo) is plenty quick for a daily and still gets ok fuel econ..
say u spend 100 on fuel a week then the territory will need about 150.. thats 2500 extra a year, 5 years thats 12500..
I guess it depends on whether or not you want a slow or fast car. I think this car uses around 22L on E85 so I'm sure you could do better than 21 on 98.
terry only better than a falcon if you have a FG/FGX and need a wagon. cos they ran the wagon shells out with the BF.
otherwise ford would have recyled the AU wagon shell with FG bits.
There was some FG mods to the series 3 BF but not much different from the AU wagon in the rear
@@wobblysauce what fg mods did it get?
@@wobblysauce same wagon and ute shells. Just new front and interiors.
XR8 the forgotten falcon, so the 290 heads going on a 260?
the boat anchor you mean?
A foot falcon would be quicker mate.
Boss has a lot of potential. Would love one with an alloy block and forged internals. Carbon fibre driveshaft and 3.9 LSD:)
@Lachlan Brown Good potential to be a heavy weight to hold your boat in place maybe.
@@matsinkal🤣 can't argue even the heads weight a ton, they are a pig but boosted I hear they come good
I've got a screamer on my Barra and I must admit it doesn't sound good inside the car but ive had a lot of people compliment the sound on the outside... so idk 🤷
They sound mental, period.
NO
Manual good. On the auto bad lol
The louder the exhaust, the smaller the penis
They are horrible on juice just buy an fg turbo manual. 9lts 100 kms
It all comes down to your right foot .
@yt the communist platform . no it doesn't the ba cars have terrible fuel economy
Maybe he just wants an SUV with AWD? No real way around getting better fuel economy, unless he started shaving weight off the thing by making custom fibreglass or carbon fibre panels lol. Aftermarket light weight rims would help save fuel too, especially with rotational mass being AWD.
Come an ask this xr6t owner about economy🤣 can't get 400 kms off boost out of a tank🤣 keyboard warrior's often report over 600
Maybe try a tune and regular servicing buddy, i get 600km out of every tank ...that's with a few races and highway runs.
Fix it. You are running 98 yes?
My fg turbo does 600+ and I'm not nice to it I'm not a keyboard warrior it's just how it is. Better than my au stock
it is possible some are getting that.. it all depends on they type of driving you do, the traffic you have to deal with.. ive logged every trip in my falcon and it varies between 30L/100 down to 7L/100.. even having AC on can add up to 4L/100 and take 100ks off your range..
anyone getting 600 a tank is doing a lot of freeway 80-100ks drving..
dont worry mate, you wont be doing 150 in the quarter lol
Km/h not mph.
News fkn flash, not that easy making Barra power! It gets easy after you upgrade the weak parts! Just like any other engine FFS! lol turbo a NA engine see if it survives over 400kw! The beauty about the Barra is its displacement! Meh, still enjoy my barra swap, no way near as good as a 2J swap and definitely not as good sounding! RB and Rotary guys here? Barra has the worst boosted I6 sound on the planet and that's an achievement on its own!
Take your meds mate. My gt xr6t has 550nm from 2200 to 4500 dead flat, from factory.
New wastegate, turbo, cat, cai, fuel pump and injectors and a tune, pretty much doubled the rwkw and nm.
The stock engine will take 440 take 1100 nm no problem. At this point, the valve springs need upgrading as the boost is pushing them open. Already a torque monster on a completely stock, unopened engine. 2jz and rbs cannot match this.
What kind of pos do you drive mate ?
@@nordic5490 I think you need to waddle down to the chemist and buy some butt hurt cream mate 🤭