How to connect your Alesis Vortex Wireless 2 to a synth without cables or a computer (or tablet/phone). The Secret is out... the ultimate WIRELESS connection.
SødaMeløn FGG Hi, thank you for your feedback, I'm glad you like my video. It took me quite a while to come up with this solution for my own setup, so I'm glad you find it useful too.
Help! I have an iPad and Korg plugKey, near my Vortex. Should I buy this Kenton host to plug the Alesis dongle in it, then midi OUT from Kenton will be conected by cable with midi IN Korg plugKey, then iPad? Please, tell me if I will have more latency if I make those connections! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Great work on your channel! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@andreiradumoisanu Thanks 😀👍 Personally, I would just get a camera adapter and plug the vortex wireless dongle into the camera adapter... A simpler and cheaper option I think.
if you wanted to change sound on the Roland keyboard, could you assign one of the drum pads on the keytar to send a midi program change message? What setting would you use?
@MikeTaylorPiano Hi, yes you can, that would be a program change. You should be able to download the program and tones list for your Roland keyboard from Roland.com... This will have the program number, LSB number and MSB number you will need to add to the pad settings in the vortex wireless 2 editor (check out my editor videos on how to set the pad settings).
HI MY friend thanks a lot for all' Your video. I hai a vortice 2. Using wifi Roland bk7m like e pande r i world use it with program change on pads more 127. However using The 2 OR 3 and more Bank s OF incredibile 1000 sounds OF Bk7. In editor i don t know is possibile. Can Help me😘? Good lite and music. Gio
@mojitossoundproject Download the bk7m style list fron roland.com Set MSB to CC00 column number on list, LSB to CC32 column number on list. The list does not mention Program number so I guess it is always 1 or 0.
Hi, the USB port is the only way to connect to the preset editor software (USB port is 2 way, In and Out, but wireless dongle and midi port are only 1 way... Out) but you should still be able to use the wireless dongle to connect your Vortex to a computer for use with DAW software. The midi port can also be used to connect to a computer for use with DAW software (either by a midi to USB cable or a wireless midi device like the Widi Master).
I have a couple questions: 1. What synthesizer do you have? I couldn't make it out much from what you said at around 2:26, but all I could hear was "Roland Juno D.O.N.", and nothing like that exists. If you can tell me what synthesizer you used in the replies, that would be helpful. 2. Does this supposed synthesizer come with built-in / preset sounds into it? I'd hate to find out the one I'm getting requires a computer software to use. Thanks in advance!
@LukeDaFox Hi, the synth was an old Roland Juno Di but check out my video of the vortex connected to the Roland mc101... th-cam.com/video/vN8om27mOJs/w-d-xo.html Both the Roland Juno Di and the Roland mc101 do not need to be connected to a computer, as they have all the sounds built in.
@@IbandUK Sweet, thanks! I do have another question that popped into my mind. I've been browsing around on the internet, and I'm not really looking forward to spending too much money. The only synthesizer that I could find that's by the Roland brand and is cheap enough is the "Roland Juno-60". I'm not sure if you have one of these lying around or if you have any knowledge about them, but do you think they are pretty much the same as the Juno-Di or the Mc101, having built-in sounds?
@LukeDaFox Hi, the Roland Juno 60 is a very expensive synth that was made in the 1980s, so I think you might be looking at the computer plugin version and not at a real synth. It doesn't have to be a Roland synth but I don't think there is much that is cheaper than a mc101 that supports midi program change messages. Roland now make the Juno DS (although I don't have one, so cannot really advise on it's suitability).
I would love to see it used with Dreadbox Typhon or 1010 Music Blackbox and maybe a midi foot controller too like the Morningstar Engineering MC8 or MC6 \m/
Sir I have alesis vortex 2 keytar. It has “MIDI out”, so can I directly connect it with my Roland XPS-30 which is “MIDI in” using MIDI to MIDI cable and play something?
@adityaasthana1599 Hi, yes, you can connect the Vortex wireless 2 midi din out to the midi din in on the Roland xps30. The Vortex is factory set to use midi channels 1 and 2 on the keyboard, so you might have to press the correct zone button on the Vortex to play notes on the xps30. Also, you might want to download the midi implementation chart for the xps30 from the Roland website, as this has the program change information (if you want to setup the Vortex to change the sound patches, etc).
Eden Meru Hi, it depends on the arranger keyboard, some of the more expensive ones have a midi usb host port (type A) that the vortex wireless dongle can be plugged into and should work fine. Most other keyboards with a type A usb port is only for connecting a usb memory stick. You can use the Kenton midi usb host if the keyboard has a midi DIN In socket (or a type B usb port if you use my usb to usb midi hack).
David Tabala Hi, yes... You might need to be an octopus though 🤣 If the synth supports multiple midi channels then you can play different sounds on the synth and the Vortex-wireless-2. My PSR S670 arranger synth supports 16 midi channels and uses channels 9 to 16 for the 3 synth keyboard zones, drum track, accompliament etc, while the Vortex uses channels 1 and 2.
hi troy i have a question could i connect my roland xps10 keyboard using my usb host (doremidi) since my roland xps10 does not have midi 5 pin connection. Could I use my alesis vortex vortex 2 wireless with two widimaster connected to my usb host in the input and in the midi output and the other widimaster connected to my alesis vortex? it will work?
_albies Hi, first I should say that I dont have a Doremidi or Xps-10, so I'm talking theory here... Assuming the Doremidi has the standard phantom power on the midi Din Out Socket (to power the Widi Master) and the Xps-10 is class compliant (doesn't need a driver to connect to a computer), then yes, it should work fine. If you have a class compliant usb hub, you could also try my Crazy USB to USB hack... th-cam.com/video/NuKnk3HaZFA/w-d-xo.html
Hello, Why can't i connect my Vortex w 2 with my Korg pa4x arranger keyboard, which is the latest Korg product, the best in its class, modern, expensive, and probably (i hope) usb midi friendly? Or is it only possible via Kenton, like you did? Best regards.
Branislav Ivkovic Hi, according to Korg the PA4X is a usb midi host so the Vortex Wireless dongle should work fine. Have you tried both USB HOST slots on the PA4X (one on top and one on back panel)? Make sure the Vortex is in upper zone (midi channel 1) which is usually the default channel. I'm no PA4X whizz but looking at Section 54 Connecting Midi Devices (p895 onwards) of the PA4X manual, you may have to setup the Global Channel (p907) and/or a Midi Preset (p908). I don't have a PA4X to play with but I did spot a ready made midi preset on the PA4X named Master Kbd (p913) which might be worth a try. Otherwise, get a midi DIN cable and connect the Midi DIN socket on the Vortex directly to the midi DIN IN socket on the PA4X and see if that works... if it does then the Kenton might be the way to go.
I have a Yamaha MX49, I do notice that my keyboard usb host is not compatible to the wireless dongle. Can I also use the Kenton to bypass this with this keyboard and does it necessarily have to be the Kenton or can it be any similar USB MIDI Host box USB to MIDI Converter?
STEddie557 According to yamaha, the usb-a port is for usb memory sticks, so wouldn't work with the Vortex Wireless dongle. You can plug the wireless dongle into the usb-a port of a usb midi host and connect to the mx49 using a midi din cable. It does not have to be a Kenton, but Kenton are very helpful with confirming whether their usb midi host will work with your exact synth and some other makes of usb midi hosts have been observed on online forums to have some issues with working properly.
hi Troy, what should I use if I just want to playing on live stage,or just jamming? is there any sound modules that suits for vortex 2, a stand alone module, for the example. I used to play my mkII with a stand alone Korg Mi modules,thanks
dramatic journey Hi, there are not many sound modules to choose from these days, personally I use my waldorf micro q virtual analog sound module I purchased back in the 80s that has midi controls for pretty much everything. I have been trying to get my hands on a skulpt which is a virtual analog synth with comprehensive midi controls too, as it seems like a good match for the vortex but there aren't any in the UK. Beyond the current analog synth fad there only really seems to be the somewhat outdated Roland Integra 7. Fingers crossed though that Roland might introduce a zen core based sound module.
Lonebeatboxer 14 Hi, thanks for your question. The Vortex Wireless 2 is a midi controller and not a synth so it does not have any sounds built in. The Vortex does come with downloadable software so, if you have an i5 computer, the Vortex can connect to your computer and play the sounds from the downloadable software (once the software is installed). Mac users can use the Vortex with garageband, as well as the downloadable software.
@mohammadalizare5518 Simple Midi to USB cables work with computers because the computer is a USB host device but won't work with synths USB B type ports or with midi controller keyboards, like the Vortex (and Vortex wireless dongle) because they are not USB host devices. There are a handful of expensive synths that have a USB A type Host port that can connect directly though.
@@IbandUKI directly connect Vertex Wireless 2 to Kronos, but it does not connect to Yamaha a5000. Is there any other way than midi host? Because there is no such device in my country
@mohammadalizare5518 If the CME widi master is available in your country, you can do it the way I did it in this video... th-cam.com/video/8_6KHQzzExY/w-d-xo.html
mohammadalizare5518 You probably could just choose a different country (?) but it is probably best to contact Avid on the Pro Tools website and ask for help.
Very nice and your research depth in response to commenter questions is benchmark. Who else pulls owner manuals just to answer a question or to verify your answer before responding? NOW..... Have you had problems loading and running the plugins provided? Example, LOOM downloads, unzips but wont pull up or 'run' on screen and Ableton doesn;t see it, therefore Vortex can't find to trigger. VACUUM acts same. Ableton internal sounds seem ok, I think. I've got new Windows 10 machine with 40 M of RAM and a terabyte of storage..... all of which I want to run over with my truck :] Godspeed Sir
Curtis Valle Thanks 😍👍 The only plugin I had a problem with was Timewarp2600... It wouldn't authorise in Ableton so I had to authorise it in Sonar X1 first. I did install all the plugins into a folder called VST on my C drive and point Ableton at it rather than the Ableton prefered folder (so I could use them in Sonar X1 as well as Ableton). Might be worth checking that Ableton is pointing to the right VST folder, if its not finding your plugins. My loom setup file is loom_2.0.0_Setup.exe so its version 2.0.0 My vacuum is version is 1.0.7 I'm aiming to get a new windows 11 laptop soon and setup everything on that, so will no doubt be posting videos on exactly how I did it.
Hi, I don't have a problem with hung notes/dropouts myself but here are the main reasons you might get them... 1) Electrical interference with the wireless dongle (wifi routers, other wireless equipment, dirty electrical supply, possibly even mobile phones, etc). 2) Weak signal (vortex too far from the wireless dongle, too many objects blocking the path of the wireless signal, old or low charge batteries, etc). 3) Note-off message not sent (changing between upper zone and lower zone on the Vortex while you are still holding down a key).
I am trying to use my Dreadbox Typhon synth for this but I can't get the program change pads to work. It did for the MicroFreak. I followed all steps in another video of yours about connecting to a synth. Am I overlooking something? Or might some synths just not be able to do this?
Hard'n'Heavy Playlists Hi, I don't have a Typhon so I checked the manual etc... I noticed the manual says the Typhon accepts program change commands but then didn't give any LSB or MSB numbers for the four banks or pc numbers for the soundpatch memory slots. Program change appears to have been added in firmware update v2.0.2, so check your firmware version. It looks like you change bank with CC#0, which is MSB. So try setting a pad to program change with lsb=0, msb=2 and PC=10 and see if a memory slot has been selected on the Typhon.
@@IbandUK thank you so much! I got it to work but it had a little bit more to it; I had to enable CC to include program change messages in the MIDI settings. While at it I also set the CC handling to override instead of additive (seems like the setting to have I think?). I'll be trying the setup with a wireless thru box tonight at band rehearsal...
Nice, but just one question: You never showed us the OTHER END of your MIDI DIN cable that you connected to the OUT of the Kenton, nor where you plugged it on the back of your SYNTH. If it's MIDI-DIN on the other end I'm guessing that would be the MIDI-IN and if it's USB it would just be the USB and would it be square USB or rectangular USB and wouldn't it be dependent on which synth you have?
Colleen Kitchen Hi, the midi Din cable plugs into the midi din out socket on the kenton and the midi din in socket on a synth/keyboard. For a synth that only has a usb midi connector (square one), check out my usb to usb hack video... th-cam.com/video/NuKnk3HaZFA/w-d-xo.html
@@IbandUK perfect... I am the proud new owner of an Alesis Vortex Wireless 2 and I am having a blast and relearning all I ever didn't know about MIDI. Thanks I subbed your channel
@@IbandUK I have a Roland FP-80 and attached the MIDI DIN cable the way you said. However, what happens is that the Alesis uses the keyboard sound, but only the piano sound comes out no matter what the setting. Any idea how to fix that problem?
Well i am a midi wizz , but i cant get that vortexx to work with my psr s 670. I does work with my roland ds 88. I have been looking in the menu's of my psr. But once i plug in the usb i get the message on screen that it aint compatible. Any advice for me sir ? And thx for the videos.
Effect one Productions Hi, I have a Yamaha psr s670 so I can tell you that you can't plug the wireless dongle directly into the type A usb port on the s670 because that is only a flash drive usb port (unless Yamaha have released a firmware update I don't know about that changes that). Personally, I plug the wireless dongle into a Kenton midi usb host, then connect the Kenton to the s670 with midi Din cables... So basically, exactly what I have done in this video.
@@IbandUK thx for your advice sir. i'll look into that Kenton midi usb host. Now i dont have to bbother in those menu's anymore. Also ill check if any firmware updatge came out for the PSR. Have a good day, and here's a Subscriber for u.
Hello from Greece.ur videos are very helpful!!I bought the vortex wireless 2 1 month before and I was confused about how it works.I use ableton but I have a latency when I play live. 1) if I buy a sound card I would be ok? 2)can I connect my stage piano rolland RD700 with vortex by kenton? Can to use the sounds of rolland without pc?without interface?you will help me if I had an answer from you. Thanks in advance.
Stefanos Konstantopoulos Hi, thank you for your feedback, I'm glad you like my videos. Latency is because of your soundcard, you should use an audio interface (I use a zoom u22). Yes, you can use the kenton to connect the Vortex to the Roland rd700 without a computer, or you can use 2 CME widi masters... th-cam.com/video/8_6KHQzzExY/w-d-xo.html Or simply connect a midi din cable to the vortex and the rd700. You will be able to play the rd700 on the vortex and change the sound (you will need to program the vortex pads in the vortex preset editor app to choose the sound). Look at page 97 of rd700 manual for the msb, lsb and program numbers of the sounds.
I can't tell you how I appreciate your reply. You are so "to the point".First of all thank you for your time.Really thank you very much.keep going to teach us.
Something last.which connection is better about distance and signal?Do you believe widi Master is more "strong "the signal down from stage for some meters?
Matt Wharton Hi, thanks 😀👍 To tune the vortex down you need to change the transpose setting in the preset (using the preset editor). Check out my transpose video... th-cam.com/video/d8FpsjyM_zU/w-d-xo.html
@@IbandUK thank you for that!! Do you know also if when connected to the keyboard via a MIDI host if the transpose from the keyboard is sent to the vortex?
Hi, You need a Windows or Mac computer to change the midi control settings on the Vortex (using the Alesis Preset Editor software). The Vortex has no sounds, it is a midi controller.
Steve Summers Hi, thanks for your question. In this setup the Vortex is using the sounds from the synth (usually using the Vortex pads to call up sounds via midi Program Change commands). The advantage here is latency, so yes it's about avoiding computers, computers generally suffer from much higher latency than synths. I'm talking live setup here rather than studio setup, where the Vortex player most likely has a synth they use on stage already. Also computers tend to be quite a bit less reliable on stage than synths.
Steve Summers The Roland Lucina does not have a midi Din In socket so this particular setup would not work. However, it does have a usb B type port so it would work with my usb-midi-to-usb-midi-hack... th-cam.com/video/NuKnk3HaZFA/w-d-xo.html The hack does work with the Vortex and Lucina (I have literally just tried it), but it does mean more bits to plug in and carry around.
@danilocastillojr604 I don't have a Vortex 1 but I do believe it does not come with a wireless dongle, so it would probably be better to use a CME Widi master plugged into the Vortex 1 midi din out socket and a CME uHost connected to the synth USB B port (or another CME Widi Master if the synth has a midi din in socket and a midi din out socket). Then pair the 2 CME devices together. Widi Master.. th-cam.com/video/dfb5vn9W6_I/w-d-xo.html uHost.. th-cam.com/video/vmRQEfYy-Ms/w-d-xo.html
@danilocastillojr604 Hi, there is no mention of a wireless dongle with the Vortex 1 on the Alesis website, so I thought that it did not have one but, if it does have a wireless dongle, then it should work with the Kenton the same as the Vortex wireless 2.
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Why didn't I ever think of this? You sir, just solved one of my biggest questions regarding audio output options in my setup.
SødaMeløn FGG
Hi, thank you for your feedback, I'm glad you like my video.
It took me quite a while to come up with this solution for my own setup, so I'm glad you find it useful too.
Holy wow thanks for this the rare occasion a massive issue is answered by gear I already have laying around nice
@VitaEx
I'm glad you found my video helpful 😀👍
I was dreading having to get a new laptop to have real wireless fun with my keytar but you've solved this issue. Massive thanks for the tip!!
@KooriGraywolf
I'm glad you found my video helpful 😍👍
Sir, you're the best. I was waiting for this to connect it to a Korg Kronos. Be blessed, my friend!!!
Francis Sánchez
Hi, thank you for your feedback, I'm glad you like my video.
The Kronos should work directly with the USB dongle.
I really need Alesis vortex USB drive and host, how can I get it in Nigeria
Help! I have an iPad and Korg plugKey, near my Vortex. Should I buy this Kenton host to plug the Alesis dongle in it, then midi OUT from Kenton will be conected by cable with midi IN Korg plugKey, then iPad? Please, tell me if I will have more latency if I make those connections! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Great work on your channel! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@andreiradumoisanu
Thanks 😀👍
Personally, I would just get a camera adapter and plug the vortex wireless dongle into the camera adapter... A simpler and cheaper option I think.
if you wanted to change sound on the Roland keyboard, could you assign one of the drum pads on the keytar to send a midi program change message? What setting would you use?
@MikeTaylorPiano
Hi, yes you can, that would be a program change.
You should be able to download the program and tones list for your Roland keyboard from Roland.com... This will have the program number, LSB number and MSB number you will need to add to the pad settings in the vortex wireless 2 editor (check out my editor videos on how to set the pad settings).
HI MY friend thanks a lot for all' Your video. I hai a vortice 2. Using wifi Roland bk7m like e pande r i world use it with program change on pads more 127. However using The 2 OR 3 and more Bank s OF incredibile 1000 sounds OF Bk7. In editor i don t know is possibile. Can Help me😘? Good lite and music. Gio
@mojitossoundproject
Download the bk7m style list fron roland.com
Set MSB to CC00 column number on list, LSB to CC32 column number on list.
The list does not mention Program number so I guess it is always 1 or 0.
i need help...my keyboard only has usb b connection and my keytar also has usb b connection....usb cables usually have an a end and a b end.
COTUFA
You currently have 2 choices...
The solution in this video or my hack solution...
th-cam.com/video/NuKnk3HaZFA/w-d-xo.html
I'm having problem registering my vortex wireless midi controller
Michael Conner
Hi, what do you mean by registering your vortex?
Good morning. The USB port on my Alesis is damaged from a fall. Is there a way to pair it dongle/computer using the midi port?
Hi, the USB port is the only way to connect to the preset editor software (USB port is 2 way, In and Out, but wireless dongle and midi port are only 1 way... Out) but you should still be able to use the wireless dongle to connect your Vortex to a computer for use with DAW software. The midi port can also be used to connect to a computer for use with DAW software (either by a midi to USB cable or a wireless midi device like the Widi Master).
I have a couple questions:
1. What synthesizer do you have?
I couldn't make it out much from what you said at around 2:26, but all I could hear was "Roland Juno D.O.N.", and nothing like that exists. If you can tell me what synthesizer you used in the replies, that would be helpful.
2. Does this supposed synthesizer come with built-in / preset sounds into it? I'd hate to find out the one I'm getting requires a computer software to use. Thanks in advance!
@LukeDaFox
Hi, the synth was an old Roland Juno Di but check out my video of the vortex connected to the Roland mc101...
th-cam.com/video/vN8om27mOJs/w-d-xo.html
Both the Roland Juno Di and the Roland mc101 do not need to be connected to a computer, as they have all the sounds built in.
@@IbandUK Sweet, thanks! I do have another question that popped into my mind.
I've been browsing around on the internet, and I'm not really looking forward to spending too much money. The only synthesizer that I could find that's by the Roland brand and is cheap enough is the "Roland Juno-60".
I'm not sure if you have one of these lying around or if you have any knowledge about them, but do you think they are pretty much the same as the Juno-Di or the Mc101, having built-in sounds?
@LukeDaFox
Hi, the Roland Juno 60 is a very expensive synth that was made in the 1980s, so I think you might be looking at the computer plugin version and not at a real synth. It doesn't have to be a Roland synth but I don't think there is much that is cheaper than a mc101 that supports midi program change messages. Roland now make the Juno DS (although I don't have one, so cannot really advise on it's suitability).
I would love to see it used with Dreadbox Typhon or 1010 Music Blackbox and maybe a midi foot controller too like the Morningstar Engineering MC8 or MC6 \m/
Richard Williams
Thanks for your comment. I don't have any of those items but if any of them come my way I will be sure to do a video.
Sir I have alesis vortex 2 keytar. It has “MIDI out”, so can I directly connect it with my Roland XPS-30 which is “MIDI in” using MIDI to MIDI cable and play something?
@adityaasthana1599
Hi, yes, you can connect the Vortex wireless 2 midi din out to the midi din in on the Roland xps30. The Vortex is factory set to use midi channels 1 and 2 on the keyboard, so you might have to press the correct zone button on the Vortex to play notes on the xps30.
Also, you might want to download the midi implementation chart for the xps30 from the Roland website, as this has the program change information (if you want to setup the Vortex to change the sound patches, etc).
@@IbandUK thank you so much sir! This was really helpful❤️❤️
Can i connect my vortex to an arranger keyboard via directly on usb port ?
Eden Meru
Hi, it depends on the arranger keyboard, some of the more expensive ones have a midi usb host port (type A) that the vortex wireless dongle can be plugged into and should work fine. Most other keyboards with a type A usb port is only for connecting a usb memory stick. You can use the Kenton midi usb host if the keyboard has a midi DIN In socket (or a type B usb port if you use my usb to usb midi hack).
would you be able to play the synthesizer and keytar at the same time?
David Tabala
Hi, yes... You might need to be an octopus though 🤣
If the synth supports multiple midi channels then you can play different sounds on the synth and the Vortex-wireless-2. My PSR S670 arranger synth supports 16 midi channels and uses channels 9 to 16 for the 3 synth keyboard zones, drum track, accompliament etc, while the Vortex uses channels 1 and 2.
I've always wanted to know how to do this. thank you very much!!!!
えり
Hi, that's great, I'm glad you like my tutorial 😀👍
Can it work with powerbank ? (no adapter)
Eden Meru
Hi, yes... I did a video about using a powerbank...
th-cam.com/video/r1bL8VUsxO4/w-d-xo.html
hi troy i have a question could i connect my roland xps10 keyboard using my usb host (doremidi) since my roland xps10 does not have midi 5 pin connection.
Could I use my alesis vortex vortex 2 wireless with two widimaster connected to my usb host in the input and in the midi output and the other widimaster connected to my alesis vortex?
it will work?
_albies
Hi, first I should say that I dont have a Doremidi or Xps-10, so I'm talking theory here... Assuming the Doremidi has the standard phantom power on the midi Din Out Socket (to power the Widi Master) and the Xps-10 is class compliant (doesn't need a driver to connect to a computer), then yes, it should work fine.
If you have a class compliant usb hub, you could also try my Crazy USB to USB hack...
th-cam.com/video/NuKnk3HaZFA/w-d-xo.html
Hello,
Why can't i connect my Vortex w 2 with my Korg pa4x arranger keyboard, which is the latest Korg product, the best in its class, modern, expensive, and probably (i hope) usb midi friendly? Or is it only possible via Kenton, like you did?
Best regards.
Branislav Ivkovic
Hi, according to Korg the PA4X is a usb midi host so the Vortex Wireless dongle should work fine. Have you tried both USB HOST slots on the PA4X (one on top and one on back panel)? Make sure the Vortex is in upper zone (midi channel 1) which is usually the default channel. I'm no PA4X whizz but looking at Section 54 Connecting Midi Devices (p895 onwards) of the PA4X manual, you may have to setup the Global Channel (p907) and/or a Midi Preset (p908). I don't have a PA4X to play with but I did spot a ready made midi preset on the PA4X named Master Kbd (p913) which might be worth a try.
Otherwise, get a midi DIN cable and connect the Midi DIN socket on the Vortex directly to the midi DIN IN socket on the PA4X and see if that works... if it does then the Kenton might be the way to go.
I have a Yamaha MX49, I do notice that my keyboard usb host is not compatible to the wireless dongle. Can I also use the Kenton to bypass this with this keyboard and does it necessarily have to be the Kenton or can it be any similar USB MIDI Host box USB to MIDI Converter?
STEddie557
According to yamaha, the usb-a port is for usb memory sticks, so wouldn't work with the Vortex Wireless dongle.
You can plug the wireless dongle into the usb-a port of a usb midi host and connect to the mx49 using a midi din cable. It does not have to be a Kenton, but Kenton are very helpful with confirming whether their usb midi host will work with your exact synth and some other makes of usb midi hosts have been observed on online forums to have some issues with working properly.
How can I get this usb
@fridaysunday-ix7fg
Contact Kenton at kentonuk.com, they sell direct to many overseas countries.
hi Troy, what should I use if I just want to playing on live stage,or just jamming? is there any sound modules that suits for vortex 2, a stand alone module, for the example. I used to play my mkII with a stand alone Korg Mi modules,thanks
dramatic journey
Hi, there are not many sound modules to choose from these days, personally I use my waldorf micro q virtual analog sound module I purchased back in the 80s that has midi controls for pretty much everything. I have been trying to get my hands on a skulpt which is a virtual analog synth with comprehensive midi controls too, as it seems like a good match for the vortex but there aren't any in the UK. Beyond the current analog synth fad there only really seems to be the somewhat outdated Roland Integra 7. Fingers crossed though that Roland might introduce a zen core based sound module.
Does it have its own sounds?
Lonebeatboxer 14
Hi, thanks for your question. The Vortex Wireless 2 is a midi controller and not a synth so it does not have any sounds built in. The Vortex does come with downloadable software so, if you have an i5 computer, the Vortex can connect to your computer and play the sounds from the downloadable software (once the software is installed). Mac users can use the Vortex with garageband, as well as the downloadable software.
Can't you use a simple Midi to USB converter? Instead of these devices
@mohammadalizare5518
Simple Midi to USB cables work with computers because the computer is a USB host device but won't work with synths USB B type ports or with midi controller keyboards, like the Vortex (and Vortex wireless dongle) because they are not USB host devices.
There are a handful of expensive synths that have a USB A type Host port that can connect directly though.
@@IbandUKI directly connect Vertex Wireless 2 to Kronos, but it does not connect to Yamaha a5000. Is there any other way than midi host? Because there is no such device in my country
@mohammadalizare5518
If the CME widi master is available in your country, you can do it the way I did it in this video...
th-cam.com/video/8_6KHQzzExY/w-d-xo.html
mohammadalizare5518
You probably could just choose a different country (?) but it is probably best to contact Avid on the Pro Tools website and ask for help.
OMG YAY!! Thank you!
Hi, I’m glad you found my video helpful 😀👍
Very nice and your research depth in response to commenter questions is benchmark. Who else pulls owner manuals just to answer a question or to verify your answer before responding? NOW..... Have you had problems loading and running the plugins provided? Example, LOOM downloads, unzips but wont pull up or 'run' on screen and Ableton doesn;t see it, therefore Vortex can't find to trigger. VACUUM acts same. Ableton internal sounds seem ok, I think. I've got new Windows 10 machine with 40 M of RAM and a terabyte of storage..... all of which I want to run over with my truck :] Godspeed Sir
Curtis Valle
Thanks 😍👍
The only plugin I had a problem with was Timewarp2600... It wouldn't authorise in Ableton so I had to authorise it in Sonar X1 first.
I did install all the plugins into a folder called VST on my C drive and point Ableton at it rather than the Ableton prefered folder (so I could use them in Sonar X1 as well as Ableton).
Might be worth checking that Ableton is pointing to the right VST folder, if its not finding your plugins.
My loom setup file is loom_2.0.0_Setup.exe so its version 2.0.0
My vacuum is version is 1.0.7
I'm aiming to get a new windows 11 laptop soon and setup everything on that, so will no doubt be posting videos on exactly how I did it.
@@IbandUK Tnx. I totally blew off the TW2600.after experiencing the associated grief with that attempt! Rock on, Good Sir
Hung notes/DROPOUTS galore...DO NOT BUY THIS PRODUCT!
Hi,
I don't have a problem with hung notes/dropouts myself but here are the main reasons you might get them...
1) Electrical interference with the wireless dongle (wifi routers, other wireless equipment, dirty electrical supply, possibly even mobile phones, etc).
2) Weak signal (vortex too far from the wireless dongle, too many objects blocking the path of the wireless signal, old or low charge batteries, etc).
3) Note-off message not sent (changing between upper zone and lower zone on the Vortex while you are still holding down a key).
I am trying to use my Dreadbox Typhon synth for this but I can't get the program change pads to work. It did for the MicroFreak. I followed all steps in another video of yours about connecting to a synth. Am I overlooking something? Or might some synths just not be able to do this?
Hard'n'Heavy Playlists
Hi, I don't have a Typhon so I checked the manual etc... I noticed the manual says the Typhon accepts program change commands but then didn't give any LSB or MSB numbers for the four banks or pc numbers for the soundpatch memory slots.
Program change appears to have been added in firmware update v2.0.2, so check your firmware version. It looks like you change bank with CC#0, which is MSB. So try setting a pad to program change with lsb=0, msb=2 and PC=10 and see if a memory slot has been selected on the Typhon.
@@IbandUK thank you so much! I got it to work but it had a little bit more to it; I had to enable CC to include program change messages in the MIDI settings. While at it I also set the CC handling to override instead of additive (seems like the setting to have I think?).
I'll be trying the setup with a wireless thru box tonight at band rehearsal...
Nice, but just one question: You never showed us the OTHER END of your MIDI DIN cable that you connected to the OUT of the Kenton, nor where you plugged it on the back of your SYNTH. If it's MIDI-DIN on the other end I'm guessing that would be the MIDI-IN and if it's USB it would just be the USB and would it be square USB or rectangular USB and wouldn't it be dependent on which synth you have?
Colleen Kitchen
Hi, the midi Din cable plugs into the midi din out socket on the kenton and the midi din in socket on a synth/keyboard.
For a synth that only has a usb midi connector (square one), check out my usb to usb hack video...
th-cam.com/video/NuKnk3HaZFA/w-d-xo.html
@@IbandUK perfect... I am the proud new owner of an Alesis Vortex Wireless 2 and I am having a blast and relearning all I ever didn't know about MIDI. Thanks I subbed your channel
@@IbandUK I have a Roland FP-80 and attached the MIDI DIN cable the way you said. However, what happens is that the Alesis uses the keyboard sound, but only the piano sound comes out no matter what the setting. Any idea how to fix that problem?
Well i am a midi wizz , but i cant get that vortexx to work with my psr s 670. I does work with my roland ds 88. I have been looking in the menu's of my psr. But once i plug in the usb i get the message on screen that it aint compatible. Any advice for me sir ? And thx for the videos.
Effect one Productions
Hi, I have a Yamaha psr s670 so I can tell you that you can't plug the wireless dongle directly into the type A usb port on the s670 because that is only a flash drive usb port (unless Yamaha have released a firmware update I don't know about that changes that). Personally, I plug the wireless dongle into a Kenton midi usb host, then connect the Kenton to the s670 with midi Din cables... So basically, exactly what I have done in this video.
@@IbandUK thx for your advice sir. i'll look into that Kenton midi usb host. Now i dont have to bbother in those menu's anymore. Also ill check if any firmware updatge came out for the PSR. Have a good day, and here's a Subscriber for u.
Hello from Greece.ur videos are very helpful!!I bought the vortex wireless 2 1 month before and I was confused about how it works.I use ableton but I have a latency when I play live.
1) if I buy a sound card I would be ok?
2)can I connect my stage piano rolland RD700 with vortex by kenton?
Can to use the sounds of rolland without pc?without interface?you will help me if I had an answer from you. Thanks in advance.
Stefanos Konstantopoulos
Hi, thank you for your feedback, I'm glad you like my videos.
Latency is because of your soundcard, you should use an audio interface (I use a zoom u22).
Yes, you can use the kenton to connect the Vortex to the Roland rd700 without a computer, or you can use 2 CME widi masters...
th-cam.com/video/8_6KHQzzExY/w-d-xo.html
Or simply connect a midi din cable to the vortex and the rd700.
You will be able to play the rd700 on the vortex and change the sound (you will need to program the vortex pads in the vortex preset editor app to choose the sound). Look at page 97 of rd700 manual for the msb, lsb and program numbers of the sounds.
I can't tell you how I appreciate your reply. You are so "to the point".First of all thank you for your time.Really thank you very much.keep going to teach us.
Something last.which connection is better about distance and signal?Do you believe widi Master is more "strong "the signal down from stage for some meters?
Loved it bro.
Thank you so much
With love from India
Thanks for your feedback. I'm glad you enjoyed my video.
Where can I buy that host at?
the bloody e
Directly from Kenton... kentonuk.com
Or
DV247.com, gear4music, Thomann
You’re a star sir!!! Here’s one for you… my band play tuned down 1 semitone. Can I down tune the vortex? I can’t find how to do it.
Matt Wharton
Hi, thanks 😀👍
To tune the vortex down you need to change the transpose setting in the preset (using the preset editor). Check out my transpose video...
th-cam.com/video/d8FpsjyM_zU/w-d-xo.html
@@IbandUK thank you for that!! Do you know also if when connected to the keyboard via a MIDI host if the transpose from the keyboard is sent to the vortex?
Scratch that, unfortunately the vortex just isn’t working.
Matt Wharton
Left me know if you need any help diagnosing the problem
But for modifying the sound of the alesis you need a computer??
Hi, You need a Windows or Mac computer to change the midi control settings on the Vortex (using the Alesis Preset Editor software). The Vortex has no sounds, it is a midi controller.
@@IbandUK tanks
Is the sound determined by the synth setting? Is the advantage not needing a computer in this setup?
Steve Summers
Hi, thanks for your question.
In this setup the Vortex is using the sounds from the synth (usually using the Vortex pads to call up sounds via midi Program Change commands).
The advantage here is latency, so yes it's about avoiding computers, computers generally suffer from much higher latency than synths. I'm talking live setup here rather than studio setup, where the Vortex player most likely has a synth they use on stage already. Also computers tend to be quite a bit less reliable on stage than synths.
IbandUK Thanks, mate. Would Roland Lucina work as a synth? That would be a real portable combination.
Steve Summers
The Roland Lucina does not have a midi Din In socket so this particular setup would not work. However, it does have a usb B type port so it would work with my usb-midi-to-usb-midi-hack...
th-cam.com/video/NuKnk3HaZFA/w-d-xo.html
The hack does work with the Vortex and Lucina (I have literally just tried it), but it does mean more bits to plug in and carry around.
How much GB.
musical band
Vortex-wireless-2 is £199,
kenton is £89,
a synth to connect the Vortex to... Anywhere between £400 and £4000
I subscibd. You are genius 😎
Soudip Monster
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@@IbandUK thanks man . Can you share your mail detail. Want to stay connected
@@DipTunes
Hi, sure,
trev@iband.co.uk
or
facebook.com/trevhutchingsuk
is it working in vortex 1 too???
thanks in advance
@danilocastillojr604
I don't have a Vortex 1 but I do believe it does not come with a wireless dongle, so it would probably be better to use a CME Widi master plugged into the Vortex 1 midi din out socket and a CME uHost connected to the synth USB B port (or another CME Widi Master if the synth has a midi din in socket and a midi din out socket). Then pair the 2 CME devices together.
Widi Master..
th-cam.com/video/dfb5vn9W6_I/w-d-xo.html
uHost..
th-cam.com/video/vmRQEfYy-Ms/w-d-xo.html
@@IbandUKbut the alesis vortex wireless 1 ..it have a dongle too
alesis vortex wireless 1 , have a dongle too right?
@danilocastillojr604
Hi, there is no mention of a wireless dongle with the Vortex 1 on the Alesis website, so I thought that it did not have one but, if it does have a wireless dongle, then it should work with the Kenton the same as the Vortex wireless 2.
This is simple and awesome
Stephen Odoom
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Great one!
Thanks.
I wanna meet uh sir
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Thanks man!!!
Your welcome