I really do enjoy watching your videos. We have a shop with laser engravers, UV printers and many other tools. We’re good at what we do, but I must say that techniques like this and how you executed illustrates that we’re nowhere near an expert level. You’ve made us look like hacks! Had to watch three times. Blown away.
A genuine thank you for sharing this advanced technique. It has made me consider other possibilities beyond your suggestions (that is a good thing), I'll just have to wrestle with embracing this particular endeavour, and its level of success/frustration... timestamp 5:50 : - )
THANK YOU..... I just DL the files and while the Aztec calendar may be a tough one, the lion will provide me with good practice on your inlay presentation. My Alpha will be here next week and I will certainly report back when I have a successful inlay....
laser some locating holes in the parts and only cut the part in the end
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@@jksjrgfpsjgr in embossing stamps I cut a small hole on edges of both parts, but after aligning when I try it on paper - many times I see that parts aren't precisely aligned. On this calendar, where are many small details and big size of the project, aligning isn't so simple like it looks on the video. Also author warns about it.
This is the way....and so HOLY LASER blown away!!!! Can only dream and hope that with practice someday we'll all achieve this great level! Thank you so so very much for sharing this!
I couldn't even imaging it is possible. I thought there will be tons of debris which won't fit into the main plate and just fall out. And here no single tiny piece wan't lost. Incredible
That is nothing; I am working on a video now that will make this old news. I have found a method to inlay this kind of detail, six times smaller with even better quality, and it is far more consistent and faster to produce-to the point that I can actually inlay a real photo with veneer into wood! Stay tuned; it will be posted next week! - Laser Dave
@@tonyCO2 A high-end laser system will produce unparalleled quality and speed; this effect cannot be achieved with a low-cost laser machine. Additionally, the total engraving time for this entire project was only 25 minutes at this quality and resolution, yielding exceptional quality and exceptional returns.
I am very sorry to say, but it works just as well with a Chinese glass tube laser system. That said, I am sure Trotec is an amazing company with great products and service!
Great Video!!! Trying to find the high tack application tape, please advise or list the brand and specifics? I have found your videos very helpful for our 1000+ students. Thank You and them coming!!!
No, trial and error is necessary; the entire process is shown in the video, no kerf compensation needed because the laser beam used is only 0.005 inch.
Hi Laser Dave, it's a beautiful piece, incredibly detailed and worth the effort. My only questions is, could the Aztec Calendar image have been burned into the wood to achieve the same effect?
Yes, as you say, it is possible to engrave the image, but this effect is entirely different, as the inlay material's look and color can be changed as you like, producing an unmatched look. Remember, "With Exceptional Quality comes Exceptional Returns". - Laser Dave
This will depend on the thickness of the veneer; measure the veneer thickness, then test your laser parameters to find the settings to achieve that depth with some testing.
Using aluminum foil may be an option to hold the inlay in place while engraving. CO2 lasers usually have no effect on aluminium regardless how thin it may be, and should still be easily sanded away. Would be easier to tune.
Register and attend our next Demo day in a city near you on July 18th, 2024 and you will be entered into a drawing for a Free Speedy 50 laser machine; this has great odds of winning; here is the link to sign up!: www.troteclaser.com/en-us/about-us/events/2024-07-demo-day?source_campaign=701Py00000B0Z2jIAF
How does the beam kerf figure into this technique? Surely, it must be accounted for somewhere. Typically, a male of one design will not fit into the female of it without some kerf consideration. Help, please. I really want to understand why this works.
Towards the end you stated that you used 100% power at 77% speed. That's a mistake if you go back in the video you used 77% power with 100% speed. I initially was confused as to how you didn't burn through the tape with 120watts at 100% power.
We usually use transfer tape from JDS: browse.jdsindustries.com/main.php?r=frontEnd&view=search&homePage=YES&doGetSearch=transfer+tape&fuzzySearch=transfer+tape&qtyOrdered=0&start=1&end=15&filter=&filter1=&page=1
Powder coating would yield a different-looking effect that is not inlay or a flush finish; you can see the powder coating process here: th-cam.com/video/IvvaAvXJye0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=FKRFea7i3Q__bMBn The essence of this procedure is for high-end applications; it's the allure of the natural wood grain within the inlay and the unparalleled quality that takes precedence. After all, exceptional quality yields exceptional returns.
This video may be dangerously misleading because if the veneer is fake as many plastic veneers these days cutting vinyl can create a deadly off-gas. PVC (Poly Vinyl Chloride)/vinyl/pleather/artificial leather Emits pure chlorine gas when cut. It should be done outside or not at all. This is why vinyl cutters exist for PVC and vinyl plastics! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
@@TrotecLaser Glues used in plywood can contain melamine. When melamine is burned it creates hydrogen cyanide. HCN at 180 to 270 ppm is fatal. 135 ppm is fatal after 30 minutes. The average fatal concentration is estimated at 546 ppm for 10 minutes for humans. Have you measured the air quality? I'm not sure what it does in lower concentrations. There are many different types of glue that might be in plywood including Urea Formaldehyde, Melamine, and Phenolic glue.
OK that is nice work but why cant you just fill the inlay with saw dust mixed with glue or some putty instead of cutting out the inversion and backing tape and all the settings, I mean if you do one that's fine but I would make a paste with fine powder dust with the dark fill material and just paste it on and sand it off. less room for error and repeatable many times over. you could do 100 that way in the time it would take you to do 10 with the laser.
Undoubtedly, one can utilize dust paste for a quicker inlay fill, but this will produce an utterly different-looking effect. The essence of this procedure isn't about speed or volume. In high-end applications, it's the allure of the natural wood grain within the inlay and the unparalleled quality that takes precedence. After all, exceptional quality yields exceptional returns.
I understand that, it just seems like some of the work is so fine that you wouldn't notice the wood grain in it. maybe you would but then what would stop you from just printing a dye over a blank board to get a similar effect? OK ink bleed etc. It just seems there would be an easier way. But after all is said and done I can see how this would differ from all the others. I see what you mean.@@davidstevens2577
I really do enjoy watching your videos. We have a shop with laser engravers, UV printers and many other tools. We’re good at what we do, but I must say that techniques like this and how you executed illustrates that we’re nowhere near an expert level. You’ve made us look like hacks! Had to watch three times. Blown away.
Questions? No. Statements? Yes. I'm stating you are awesome!
Wow, thank you!
This is a great walk-through. Thank you for putting it together, can’t wait to give this method a shot.
A genuine thank you for sharing this advanced technique. It has made me consider other possibilities beyond your suggestions (that is a good thing), I'll just have to wrestle with embracing this particular endeavour, and its level of success/frustration... timestamp 5:50 : - )
YOu are welcome; I have just released a new version that makes this so much easier,: th-cam.com/video/JZFbtrG2P48/w-d-xo.htmlsi=5xCnAx3BK61qGWV2
ok, I am impressed. Thank you so much for sharing!
THANK YOU
THANK YOU..... I just DL the files and while the Aztec calendar may be a tough one, the lion will provide me with good practice on your inlay presentation. My Alpha will be here next week and I will certainly report back when I have a successful inlay....
You got this!
I have trouble to align two parts of the seal (embossing stamp), so when I see you putting this calendar together, all I can say is... WOW!
laser some locating holes in the parts and only cut the part in the end
@@jksjrgfpsjgr in embossing stamps I cut a small hole on edges of both parts, but after aligning when I try it on paper - many times I see that parts aren't precisely aligned.
On this calendar, where are many small details and big size of the project, aligning isn't so simple like it looks on the video. Also author warns about it.
Simplemente hermoso, esta técnica es fascinante, gracias por compartir.
Oh, I am amazed!
This is the way....and so HOLY LASER blown away!!!! Can only dream and hope that with practice someday we'll all achieve this great level! Thank you so so very much for sharing this!
You can do it!
thanks for the kind encouragement!@@TrotecLaser
thanks i just tested the advanced inlay method with stainless steel on a brass coin and filed it down looks amazing
Fantastic!
I'd love to see that, you should post a video.
I couldn't even imaging it is possible. I thought there will be tons of debris which won't fit into the main plate and just fall out. And here no single tiny piece wan't lost. Incredible
That is nothing; I am working on a video now that will make this old news. I have found a method to inlay this kind of detail, six times smaller with even better quality, and it is far more consistent and faster to produce-to the point that I can actually inlay a real photo with veneer into wood! Stay tuned; it will be posted next week! - Laser Dave
very nice inlay!
mesmerizing ... thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Can't wait to try 😬😬😬
that's insane dude
a $50 000 laser machine. just a note for the viewers.:)
You can get a better laser on laser
@@tonyCO2 A high-end laser system will produce unparalleled quality and speed; this effect cannot be achieved with a low-cost laser machine. Additionally, the total engraving time for this entire project was only 25 minutes at this quality and resolution, yielding exceptional quality and exceptional returns.
I am very sorry to say, but it works just as well with a Chinese glass tube laser system. That said, I am sure Trotec is an amazing company with great products and service!
it's an ad
@@guiltazaour2871 Ah yes I see it now haha. My bad.
Looks very nice job but there is a question is easy to position to each other theses two pieces to match them preciously ?
Brilliant, thank you very much
good job ser!
Amazing work
God mode laser work.
Nice! Will give it a try. Good meeting you at the meadowlands and thanks for the info.
Hey Keith, it was nice to meet you too, have fun with this laser hack!
Awesome!
Glad you think so!
Wow! Great video, amazing idea.
Wow. Great job. Thanks for sharing!
Awesome 👏🫡👌😍
Thanks 🤗
Impressive!
Amazing... never knew lasers are able to do this type of inlay. Can we use other types of wood, like purple wood as the inlay?
You will have to do some testing to determine settings, but it is possible!
If it was only that easy lol. Good job 👍🏻
If the process is followed correctly, then this is very easy and much faster than a traditional laser inlay process.
No kerf adjustment is needed?
Very nice work.
Thank you! Cheers!
Great! Trank you.
love it!!!
the way I thirst for this man
I am working on a new, much faster version of this application now; stay tuned!
Fantastic
Great Video!!! Trying to find the high tack application tape, please advise or list the brand and specifics? I have found your videos very helpful for our 1000+ students. Thank You and them coming!!!
We use the Transferight brand from JDS Industries.
I don't get how you take care of the kerf. Sharp points often get cut down too far to fully it's intended hole. ???
A lot of trial and error!
No, trial and error is necessary; the entire process is shown in the video, no kerf compensation needed because the laser beam used is only 0.005 inch.
nice job! take me years to master maybe.
You can do it; I am confident in that; start with a less complex graphic to start building your confidence! 😀
Wow!
Hi Laser Dave, it's a beautiful piece, incredibly detailed and worth the effort. My only questions is, could the Aztec Calendar image have been burned into the wood to achieve the same effect?
Yes, as you say, it is possible to engrave the image, but this effect is entirely different, as the inlay material's look and color can be changed as you like, producing an unmatched look. Remember, "With Exceptional Quality comes Exceptional Returns". - Laser Dave
Восхитительная работа лайк в карму чуваку.
Спасибо
Thank you for the video. i have a few questions, how thick is the maple and how deep do you cut for the vaneer much appreciated
This was 5mm Maple and the veneer used was 0.0010" thick
Could you not use foil tape rather than transfer tape to make it a bit more forgiving about not blowing holes out the back?
You are not the first to ask this; it is a great idea and should work well, but I have yet to have the time to try it; maybe a future video?
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To achieve a “pocket” for the inlay, how deep should the inicial engraving be?
This will depend on the thickness of the veneer; measure the veneer thickness, then test your laser parameters to find the settings to achieve that depth with some testing.
Using aluminum foil may be an option to hold the inlay in place while engraving. CO2 lasers usually have no effect on aluminium regardless how thin it may be, and should still be easily sanded away. Would be easier to tune.
That is an interesting idea! Using a 3M double-sided tape to adhere the veneer to the aluminum foil, I will have to try that!
Love the inlay technique. Dislike the excessive use of the word "Hack".
hello nice work, what trotec machine did you use
This Project uses the Speedy 360 80-watt laser machine; however, any C02 laser made by trotec will create this application.
Register and attend our next Demo day in a city near you on July 18th, 2024 and you will be entered into a drawing for a Free Speedy 50 laser machine; this has great odds of winning; here is the link to sign up!: www.troteclaser.com/en-us/about-us/events/2024-07-demo-day?source_campaign=701Py00000B0Z2jIAF
very nice, great work, what laser machine are you using?
Thank you! This was done on our Speed 400 Run on Ruby system!
How does the beam kerf figure into this technique? Surely, it must be accounted for somewhere. Typically, a male of one design will not fit into the female of it without some kerf consideration. Help, please. I really want to understand why this works.
No kerf compensation is needed at all. Every step is shown in the video
I presume to do any type of inlay, you need to have laser kerf settings nailed down tight?
No kerf compensation is needed at all because the laser beam used is only 0.005 inches in diameter.
Great video. How thick is the wallnut veneer you are using? Thank you
This example uses a traditional inlay veneer with a ~0.020" or 0.51mm thickness.
Thank you
Can you please tell me what kind of tape is that? Preferably with an Amazon link? Thank you very much!
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Towards the end you stated that you used 100% power at 77% speed. That's a mistake if you go back in the video you used 77% power with 100% speed. I initially was confused as to how you didn't burn through the tape with 120watts at 100% power.
You are correct, we used 77% power with 100% speed. Thanks for catching that!
cool
Do you happen to have a link to the tape you use?
We usually use transfer tape from JDS: browse.jdsindustries.com/main.php?r=frontEnd&view=search&homePage=YES&doGetSearch=transfer+tape&fuzzySearch=transfer+tape&qtyOrdered=0&start=1&end=15&filter=&filter1=&page=1
how to produce the pen that you use for engraving?
We do not show this, but using the same process is possible.
I do the same thing using powder coat!
can you explain?
Powder coating would yield a different-looking effect that is not inlay or a flush finish; you can see the powder coating process here: th-cam.com/video/IvvaAvXJye0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=FKRFea7i3Q__bMBn
The essence of this procedure is for high-end applications; it's the allure of the natural wood grain within the inlay and the unparalleled quality that takes precedence. After all, exceptional quality yields exceptional returns.
@@jimduncan9262 th-cam.com/video/IvvaAvXJye0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=FKRFea7i3Q__bMBn
Where do you get the designs from?
Design files are included for free in the video link.
Tell the truth; just how many takes/tries were required to actually make this work? My guess is at least 10!
Hey Justin, I can honestly tell you that this process was completed in a single try; however, I do have extensive experience with this process.
@@davidstevens2577 WOW!!!! That is amazing! Love this project
This video may be dangerously misleading because if the veneer is fake as many plastic veneers these days cutting vinyl can create a deadly off-gas. PVC (Poly Vinyl Chloride)/vinyl/pleather/artificial leather Emits pure chlorine gas when cut. It should be done outside or not at all. This is why vinyl cutters exist for PVC and vinyl plastics! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
This file was completed with 100% natural wood veneer; No PVC was ever used in this video.
@@TrotecLaser Glues used in plywood can contain melamine. When melamine is burned it creates hydrogen cyanide. HCN at 180 to 270 ppm is fatal. 135 ppm is fatal after 30 minutes. The average fatal concentration is estimated at 546 ppm for 10 minutes for humans. Have you measured the air quality? I'm not sure what it does in lower concentrations. There are many different types of glue that might be in plywood including Urea Formaldehyde, Melamine, and Phenolic glue.
OK that is nice work but why cant you just fill the inlay with saw dust mixed with glue or some putty instead of cutting out the inversion and backing tape and all the settings, I mean if you do one that's fine but I would make a paste with fine powder dust with the dark fill material and just paste it on and sand it off. less room for error and repeatable many times over. you could do 100 that way in the time it would take you to do 10 with the laser.
Undoubtedly, one can utilize dust paste for a quicker inlay fill, but this will produce an utterly different-looking effect. The essence of this procedure isn't about speed or volume. In high-end applications, it's the allure of the natural wood grain within the inlay and the unparalleled quality that takes precedence. After all, exceptional quality yields exceptional returns.
I understand that, it just seems like some of the work is so fine that you wouldn't notice the wood grain in it. maybe you would but then what would stop you from just printing a dye over a blank board to get a similar effect? OK ink bleed etc. It just seems there would be an easier way. But after all is said and done I can see how this would differ from all the others. I see what you mean.@@davidstevens2577
This is too advanced for me and my 10w laser, but it inspired me to engrave, then fill with colored epoxy, and then sand.
Crazy nice the aztech inlay ... wow.
Thank you
Hey dude, that dime is worth about 5000 bucks, because it doesn’t have the right letter on it, it’s got a D not a P, look it up
Thanks for the heads up, but I just looked it up, and it is worth a whole $0.10!
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Awesome!