learningbird I think he's _just_ too far away from the camera for the wide angle lens to fully unleash its potential of exaggerating movements to and from the camera; as a result, the whole shot looks semi awkward. Roger Deakins would be disappointed with that wide angle lens usage if he saw this.
drew bello is the ram upgradable? And is the apu a 25watt or 15watt version? There is a video on TH-cam that shows a chap upgrading the ram SSD, and HDD on a 15' 2500u model.
Thanks for this! I oredered without any reviews, glad I did not make a mistake! Very nice general review, you mentioned all of the most impotant aspects.
I am satisfied. Very much. But, consider that I have come from tiny old and weak Asus T100 with an Atom SOC :) Battery life is nothing to write home about, 5-6 hours of my active use, which is mostly browsing, some text editors, some youtube and online classes, some gaming of this one game from windows store. But f.e. standby time is awesome, better then on my old atom machine. In sleep, it looses ~1%/hour, which is in my view really good and makes it not worth to actually use hibernate or shutdown. IR windows hello camera is awful, it takes too long, and 30% of the time it does not recognize me. In the dark, it works better, but on the terrace when it's a sunny day, it's terrible. Maybe it's also because I have a beard :) In the only steam game I want to play, Civ6, there is a weird graphical issue, where some colors are wrong. I think maybe white is blue, and such. Don't know how to solve this. Screen has great contrast and black value. But it's not very bright. I estimate ~250, because it feels the same as my old one, and it had something like that. On a very sunny day, and in shade, it's usable, but not great, if dark content is shown on screen. For browsing it's no problem, but for video not so much. Build is really great, f.e. much, much better then Zenbook 13 that I originally got. Keyboard is also great, good travel, good feedback and no flexing at all. I love it. Noise is good. I came from fanless PC, so I am sensitive to noise. When browsing or idle, it's very quiet. Sometimes it ramps up when streaming video and doing some other stuff at the same time, but normally it's quiet. Not sure about gaming, since I have not played anything for more than 5 minutes. Overall, I am very satisfied, and still feel like at 900€, there is nothing better. So glad I returned Zenbook 13 for this, saved 250€ and I think I got a better PC.
It is because it is AMD... I am not saying everyone is biased but a lot of it has to do with the fact that AMD is still the underdog and the "best performance is found in Intel 8th gen processors".
Mimo Slavich yes that is the main complain. Being in Europe and having so little reviews is these machines author is trying to be US like to much. Prices are in euros so rest should be in our systems...
Its so ridiculous! The whole world, including much much older cultures than the US, switched to the metric system as the global system of units for science and trade. Hell, the Saturn V that got the US to the moon was designed by Werner Von Braun in metric units.
But NO benchmarks ? Especially since all the 15 inch ryzen laptops have been review and this 13.3 inch apparently has the weaker model of gpu and it might even have worse performance compared to the 15 inch models.
This looks like the best Ryzen APU Notebook to me at the moment. Great video, thx. A few quick benchmark numbers, even in comments section, would be a nice addition.
Huge fan of these models. As a sales supervisor at big box tech store I really push the 15.6" version since it is on display but the 13" version I try to speak about
The 2019 model of this laptop released recently so it doesn’t look like they’ll be updating it to 7nm anytime soon. The Ryzen 5 3500u in the new model is still Zen+ but just a new revision.
If anyone is thinking of buying this laptop, this model has problems with thermals and any advantage you think you might get with the ryzen chip is cancelled out by thermal throttling. Apparently the 15 inch has less problems.
Watching this Video on almost exactly the same Device. But mine has only 8 GB of RAM. I agree with you. It's a wonderful Convertible and i love it. For short trips (up to one week) i prefer this one. Otherwise i have to take my 17.3" Gaming Laptop with me, which is really heavy and often a bit overpowered for my usage.
The only thing stopping me from getting any laptop with the mobile cpu is the lack of thunderbolt 3 support but once it’s supported on a 2 in 1 ryzen laptop I am definitely buy it eight away, so long as I can afford it 😂
321bluff well you might be using it differently then what I plan to use it for. I want a ryzen cpu in a 2 in 1 laptop so so I can take it with me and take notes and some light coding and I want it to be the mobile ryzen since they are slightly better so it has enough power to do video and photo editing on the go and if I want to start gaming then I want the thunderbolt 3 port so I can hook up an external gpu do I can play games at higher settings and maybe even record. I want to do something similar to what Austin Evans recently did on a video called “Building the ultimate thunderbolt 3 setup” except with two regular monitors and maybe either a gtx 1070 or 1080
Well based on both being 15 watts I dont see how intels CPU wouldn't also throttle if AMD's throttles, just by basing it off that they would both being put in an slim aluminium enclosure. Either way based on other reviewers that have tested out Ryzen 2 in 1 laptops and referencing that with how I plan to edit videos it really wouldn't thermal throttle while editing/exporting videos or theoretically speaking it wouldn't throttle while playing games either while hooked up to an EGPU, if AMD ever adopts thunderbolt 3, since most current games are GPU intensive especially the ones I play.
@@zora_tech dude did u listen to what I said ? I said if both thermal throttles than go with Intel cox of thunder bolt 3 port. It is intel proprietory.
Is this computer good or bad? I see a bunch of reviews saying it's good but then the comments are completely mixed. How would it handle general web surfing and general homework?
man don't listen to the comments half these people don't have the laptop theyre trashing or simply cant afford it. Its literally the best laptop Ive ever had I returned my surface tab to get it and I couldn't be more happy. the screen is brilliant the processors fast as heck the ssd makes it run so smooth and quick literally you get so much bang for the buck its awesome. I do some gaming on it like streaming my xbox one and it works great and I watch videos and browse and it works amazing for all that. This laptop is made to do so much more so for just web surfing and homework itll breeze through. plus the touchscreen is really nice too. get it man you wont be returning it.
I have the laptop it replaced my yoga 730 it's great all around I primarily use it for business day to day and when I travel I use to edit hd video works great only thing I dont like is battery life 4hrs avg
I traded mine in for a new iPad Pro, 13 hour battery life average. I actually push the thing with high brightness and multiple apps to see if I can drain it faster sometimes and I cant. I love it man. I don’t need a full windows operating system, with luma fusion and procreate I can do everything my Laptop could only now I can do it lag free, no hot lap, or burning charger, lol.
I dont know why but my laptops batery only lasts 3,5 hours in simple tasks, also the radeon benchmark is very poor, I have the ryzen 5 2500u and 8 gb ram, 256 ssd, it costs me 530 euros in México. :D My laptop fan is very silent and my display is very bright, I dont know why many people says the opposite.
You talk about benchmarks but don't show any. You don't show any screen metrics. You don't talk about thermal at all. You don't talk about emission. You don't talk about the keyboard. This is not a review, this is a "Look at my shiny new toy"-clip. Go over to mobiletechreview or any other decent tech channel and take pointers there.
Go easy on him, it's just his side channel. Most of the issues with thermals are with R7, with R5 it's not bad, if you want it quiet when web browsing just set lowest power state(battery saver).
Got it for myself for chirstmast recently, version with R5/8GB/128GB so will have to replace the SSD, 1TB SataIII WD Blue on the way. In UK they ship it with a type-c to female hdmi dongle.
Hello! How does this laptop stand up? Is it still your daily mobile driver? What's your current laptop right now? Thank you very much! I am in love with this laptop! Baccarani
they cheaped out a bit on the screen. i can tell you as an owner of this exact model, in graphics that display one solid color, you can see individual pixels. its not noticeable in movies or videos, but definitely noticeable in solid shapes that are all one color. its not low resolution or anything, but im guessing the pixel density is rather low. i havent seen that sort of effect on any other laptop ive owned, so they definitely were trying to cut costs with the screen.
Good review. I'm looking into getting this with the Ryzen 3 2300u in it off Craigslist. It's seems just right and would probably be stellar compared to the ASUS C201PA I'm using to type this on.
So funny all these negative comments half these people don't have the laptop that they're trashing or simply cant afford it. Its literally the best laptop I've ever had and Ive had a MacBook Pro for years. I returned my surface tablet because it was having issues to get the hp envy 360x 13" and I couldn't be more happy. the screen is brilliant the processors fast as heck the ssd makes it run so smooth and quick literally you get so much bang for the buck its awesome. I do some gaming on it like streaming my xbox one and it works great and I watch videos and browse and it works amazing for all that. This laptop is made to do so much more so for just web surfing and homework itll breeze through. plus the touchscreen is really nice too. get it man you wont be returning it.
I personally bought this laptop and it has many issues. It has poor battery life although it boasts having more. I was only getting around 4-4.5 hours of battery life. The next issue I had was the fan emissions. It was crazy loud and you could definitely hear it when ur just surfing the web with a few tabs open. Overall highly disappointed.
1 Set power state to the lowest one(battery saver) will be quieter and save some battery obviously 2 Try to uninstall some of the HP's bloatware that you won't need 3 Don't run unnecessary apps in the background.
Anne if you do what I said before, your laptop will be quieter. But you have to remember it's a ultrabook with failry powerfull APU and it simply has to be loud.
Traded mine in for a new IPad Pro. Went from 4 hours average battery life on the Envy to 13 on the pro. Luma fusion and Procreate blow any and every windows app out of the water for creating and editing. Apple store just has 100 times more apps for every possible thing you could need to create/do. And there’s no annoying fan noise, iPad stays nice and cool doesn’t even get warm.. It’s just a better experience if you’re willing to pay a little extra. Plus the Retina Screen is gorgeous and just looks so full of color its unreal. Videos look beautiful and pictures and artwork take on a new level. So happy with my choice. I would have settled had I kept the HP, deep down regretting all the shortcomings. Now I’m stoked every time I sit down with the Pro to work or play!
Does the hinge wobble much for you? I am deciding between the 2700U version of this and the normal ENVY 13, and my two biggest drawbacks of the X360 are its weaker graphics than the MX150, and a lot of people report a really wobbly hinge in laptop mode which would drive me insane
I have the Intel version with the MX150 so i'll give you the performance with this laptop. On older titles like Burnout Paradise, it can be maxxed out no issue but newer titles like Dirt 4, or big older titles like GTA IV need to run at around medium. Same with Fortnite (if you play that) I was able to set it to low and turn up the texture detail and anti aliasing to medium and render distance to high. But an important note is this laptop does not have large enough grips or legs or whatever you want to call it, so when the CPU and GPU are at full usage, it will start to throttle in laptop mode. It doesn't if you put it in presentation mode or just lift it slightly off the table with something. And with the hinge, it is fine and will stay reasonable still in laptop mode.
Schönes Teil für das Geld. Hab mir selber vor 2 Monaten ein Acer Switch 3 geholt, 330 Euro mit Windows 10 S mit Gratisupgrade auf Pro. Realistisch muss meine Kiste aber nur zum Surfen und für Teamviewer herhalten. Deine Begeisterung für W10 im Touch-Betrieb mag ich aber nicht so ganz Teilen. ;) Das Review-Format find ich an sich gut, aber 3D-Printing-Stuff wär mir lieber ;)
You have another Channel as well? :D How bright does the Screen get? I would love to get a bright screen, so i can use outside. P.S: Du machst extrem gute Videos! Hast mir den Einstieg in den 3D Druck sehr erleichtert. Ich überlege, mit den Laptop zum Studienbegin zu kaufen.
Did you edit this video with this laptop? I'm considering this laptop (but 15.6") to make videos myself. I'm only worried about overheating during rendering if the videos end up being very long.
Hi! Have you updated your SSD? How did it worked? I saw that the Spectre has some tricky clips attached to the battery. Is it the same with the Envy? Would be cool if you have a video about this.
the USB-C port feels very fragile to me. considering you don't have an HDMI port, it's a risk. also the fan is loud, it's always on. the rest is awesome. there are worse ultrabooks for the same money. I mean even the body - most of them for this money have bending plastic and not many have touch screens.
Nice review! I've look at the Ryzen 3 2300U Vega 6 version, cost 698€ here in 🇳🇴 is that powerfull enough to stream Netflix, Hbo without any slowdowns/struggling ? The PCMark10 hast tested the Ryzen 5 variant to have 3hours of videplayback and 4hours for the Ryzen 3. That’s seems to be low. But i never use the brightness over 40% though. The reason i ask about performance is: I tryed a Asus Vivobook 14 with Core i3 8130 and Uhd 620. I had to deliver it back, because it did not manage to provide a good streaming experience for me. I also tried and put the pc in full performance mode without getting so much better.
I liked this laptop but had it only for one day. Unfortunately the fan is loud and it gets warm pretty fast. It's nice looking equipment but really .... it's not for me. I had to return it back where I got it from. I am planning to buy HP envy series laptop but.... not with AMD processor.
Hi, tom, only knew your 3d printing channel, but i will buy this laptop for school and cad (Fusion 360) for 3d printing. My main rig is a r5 1600 an a rx570, but it is sadly not portable.
Honestly, I got this laptop this summer and it's been terrible from the get go. The fan starts blowing like a maniac for no apparent reason, like when I'm only using word or have a few tabs open in chrome. I feel like I just got unlucky and bought one with a hardware problem...
@Ace D Thanks for your reply! Yeah.. thing is, when the fan starts working like crazy it gets hot, which results in it having to work even harder in order to cool it down. I generally really like this laptop, but the fan is kind of driving me nuts. For a 900 euro laptop, this really disappointed me. Have you experienced such problems?
@@sibelsafak8165 It's not a gaming laptop, nor is it advertised as such. The heat dissipation is a common and major design flaw in the ENVY 13 due to it's slim design. The ENVY 15 and ENVY 17 struggle a lot less with loud fans or power limitation due to thermal design but also have a bigger case. Maybe you can work out a refund for your ENVY 13 and put the money towards an ENVY 15 if that's such a big issue. Other tech channels have found a significant decrease in both productivity and gaming performance on the ENVY 13 compared to the ENVY 15 even with identical hardware because the processor/APU gets throtteled to a power limit of 15 Watt by HP on the ENVY 13, but 25 Watt on the ENVY 15 for the same reason. I'd say stay the hell away from the ENVY 13 unless you want something portable and don't care about performance at all.
Great! Since the new MacBooks where a massive disappointment I'll probably upgrade from my old MacBook Air to one of these. Thanks for the info! Edit:I just bought it...
I bought a 13" with the Ryzen 3 2200U with Vega 6 graphics and 256GB SSD. It's far from a powerhouse, but it's still a quad core machine with decent integrated graphics. I've liked it a lot for a Windows laptop so far, and I agree with everything this video says. The only things I didn't like is the amount of HP crap I had to uninstall, but that's a given for any windows laptop that isn't a Surface, and the fact that the keyboard doesn't have a back light.
I've heard these have only 3-4 hours battery life, where the intel version is 5-6hours. Thats a big difference. I don't understand why since I think both are 15w tdp cpus.
I’m not sure if he mentioned it or not but I am looking for a portable mutli use laptop and this seems to be it.But I have one question,could you do any gaming on this laptop?Games including,fortnite,csgo and anything inbetween.
+Cz418 E-sports titles like that shouldn't be a problem. Granted I haven't looked at benches for this mobile APU, but the desktop version is essentially identical other then some potential clock speed differences and those does high end games at lowest setting at 900p just fine and e-sport titles like the ones you mentioned at highest setting 1080p just fine (although you might want to lower the settings to get better framerates).
My country only has the 8gb version and I also want it for video editing on the go :(. Do you think 8gb will be enough, I don't plan to do 4k or any fancy stuff and I will also render in my main machine, but I'll use Resolve, which is quite resource heavy.
+Juan Andrés I haven't looked up the details for these mobile versions of the processors, but they're in essence the same as the desktop ones. And the desktop ones are good for 900p gaming for more demanding titles and does 1080p just fine in e-sports titles but struggles with memory bandwidth limitations (memory is the one thing holding it back meaning that the higher end APUs (R5 2400G) don't perform much better then the lower end ones (R3 2200G), I assume the same is true for these laptops, although since they're running at a slightly lower speed to concerve power the memory limitations should be aliviated a tiny bit allowing the hardware to actually stretch its legs a bit more. For gaming I'd just buy the APUs without SMT but with more memory. For productivity the higher end one has twice the threads and can be decent for that role even if it can't match a hex core from Intel. One thing worth noting is that what kind of software you're using plays a huge role in what hardware is best for you. Adobe has recently added support for the video encoder unit in the iGPU of Intels processors improving Intels performance in that application even when compared to higher end AMD hardware. In software that actually makes *use* of this hardware you'll probably end up loving it though as you're getting a *lot* of hardware for the money.
I bought a 13" Envy. The specs looked good to me for that price. I returned it even if it was the best p.c. LAPTOP I've had. The best 13"? Not even close. For another $275 I bought the new upgraded MacBook Air 13". It just works, the way it should & with Apple Care+, it's a breeze with no worries. I've own and tried many computer from Chromebook to MacBooks and many Linux operating system 'windows' p.c. Didn't want to relearn all that I did in being a windows geek, spending too much time to keep it going, mostly due to 'Bill Gates ware'. The NEW "Mb Air" works for me fine and only cost me $999 with no taxes! (my 'secret') The H.P pc brand is the best windows for the most people but I didn't want to deal with the support department. Nothing like great personal service a couple of blocks away at the Apple Store.
I'd say stay the hell away from the ENVY 13 unless you want something portable and don't care about performance and the hardware inside your laptop being throttled by thermal design at all.
Hi I have bought the same laptop. why is the Fan running so loud all the time . Is yours doing the same. ive just unboxed it and done the install but from the moment i started it the fan running loud.
Hi same for me, i've found this : open the " Hp command center " and juste select the ending option which deasable the fan (not totaly but nearly), just don't keep this option when doing huge staff or your laptop will die....
How are you getting 6-7 hours of battery with mixed use? Especially on full brightness? My device only lasts 3 hours on battery saver and low brightness
Is the 8gb model single or dual channel? The 13inch model has soldered ram so i need to know if it is single or dual because ryzen is super sensitive to this.
Man great laptop, but some things bug me with it. Like the fact that vent only on one side, or button on the left side. The power should be USB C only and it should be on the left. Small things like that bug me with this laptop. While the Yoga 730 is much cleaner in design.
I have this laptop and i would say AVOID unless your very very lucky. Went through 3 Replacements in 1 month, now in the process of a refund. +First - Had several deadpixel on arrival. Returned the next couple days for a replacement. +Second - Was okay, untill 2hours after arrival, the LCD adhesive started to separate near the bottom left corner to midway when tilting the screen. Returned the next day for another replacement. +Third - Thought this was the one, but no... Trackpad was lifting from one corner and other side of trackpad was stuck. Insanely loud fan, like a hair dryer. Updated bios, tried HP Coolsense bs and so on but nothing works. Previous two laptop did not exhibit this issue. Yes i know this is a small-form factor laptop, but even at idle the fan kicked in 100% with temperature reaching to 55-65 degrees at 20-30% load and previous two laptop did not exhibit this issue. Now in the process of just getting a refund and moving elsewhere before the return policy expires... The first two seemed to come from the same batch (checking the serial number) where the third one came from a different batch. HP seriously has some quality issues with the ryzen line-up or in general with the envy line up. Performance it self was good to an extent...The main issue is AMD drivers with lack of support and update - easier to search this up rather than me explaining it. I'm not hating AMD, i rock a Ryzen 1700 on my main desktop and absolutely love it. But this laptop was enough to drive me crazy. Looks beautiful and slim, affordable but deceiving. HP support was friendly enough for the replacement and refund, but all 3 laptops had issues on ARRIVAL, give a couple of months who knows what other issue could have popped up and if they would have honoured their warranty. Theres alot of online thread complaining with similar or even worser situations and there's also HP and several other company binning the Ryzen chip from 15W to 12W and then thermal throttling. Just a shame that this could have been one of the best budget laptop but plagued with poor design, a single driver update and quality issues...
Hey! Need some help, i recently got this laptop and i noticed that the fans are mostly running all the time... sometimes they reach peak speeds and when i move the laptop even a little i can face an Harsh vibration by the fan mostly in the lower body ...is this normal with this laptop, any fixes?
Keith Veigas Go to Hp command centre and go to thermal thing and switch it to silent, it does no difference to your performance or anything, it just makes the fan noise go away, No problem
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Please, don't use a wide-angle lens. Your body looks deformed and the 13" laptop looks like a 17" one.
learningbird haha right? I was like why is the laptop so wide?!
learningbird I think he's _just_ too far away from the camera for the wide angle lens to fully unleash its potential of exaggerating movements to and from the camera; as a result, the whole shot looks semi awkward. Roger Deakins would be disappointed with that wide angle lens usage if he saw this.
@SimGunther Everybody has made this mistake at least once in a lifetime: shooting a party in a small room with a wide-angle lens! :D
why did you put an @ symbol?
OMG, i thought it was 19:9 wide screen!
Great review. Nice to watch one focusing on general look and feel rather than bombarding us with benchmarks and so on. Keep up the good work.
i was so flipping happy when i saw the ultra wide display, then he picked it up and it was just the angle...
Thank you for your review, really appreciated. I hope you have plans to make the channel grow, as I am sure you have all it's needed.
I have the envy with the ryzen7 2700u and Vega 10 graphics. Simply put I love it and it one of the best non gaming laptops I have ever owned.
drew bello is the ram upgradable? And is the apu a 25watt or 15watt version? There is a video on TH-cam that shows a chap upgrading the ram SSD, and HDD on a 15' 2500u model.
@@tur80t0ny it is 15 watts and ram is upgradable as is the SSD and you can add a sata HDD or SSD.
@@tur80t0ny from my research only the 15" version has user accessible RAM
How's the battery life?
Thanks for this! I oredered without any reviews, glad I did not make a mistake!
Very nice general review, you mentioned all of the most impotant aspects.
Markiz how is it working for you so far??. Am about to get one too
I am satisfied. Very much. But, consider that I have come from tiny old and weak Asus T100 with an Atom SOC :)
Battery life is nothing to write home about, 5-6 hours of my active use, which is mostly browsing, some text editors, some youtube and online classes, some gaming of this one game from windows store. But f.e. standby time is awesome, better then on my old atom machine. In sleep, it looses ~1%/hour, which is in my view really good and makes it not worth to actually use hibernate or shutdown.
IR windows hello camera is awful, it takes too long, and 30% of the time it does not recognize me. In the dark, it works better, but on the terrace when it's a sunny day, it's terrible. Maybe it's also because I have a beard :)
In the only steam game I want to play, Civ6, there is a weird graphical issue, where some colors are wrong. I think maybe white is blue, and such. Don't know how to solve this.
Screen has great contrast and black value. But it's not very bright. I estimate ~250, because it feels the same as my old one, and it had something like that. On a very sunny day, and in shade, it's usable, but not great, if dark content is shown on screen. For browsing it's no problem, but for video not so much.
Build is really great, f.e. much, much better then Zenbook 13 that I originally got.
Keyboard is also great, good travel, good feedback and no flexing at all. I love it.
Noise is good. I came from fanless PC, so I am sensitive to noise. When browsing or idle, it's very quiet. Sometimes it ramps up when streaming video and doing some other stuff at the same time, but normally it's quiet. Not sure about gaming, since I have not played anything for more than 5 minutes.
Overall, I am very satisfied, and still feel like at 900€, there is nothing better. So glad I returned Zenbook 13 for this, saved 250€ and I think I got a better PC.
Thank you so much
Lol before I got it I watched a lot of reviews about many laptops
How is the laptop 6 years later?
Got the ryzen 7 model it's amazing can even play some games when in on holiday although I've got my 1080ti for home use.
Thanks a lot for the review btw, nobody is talking about this laptop.
It is because it is AMD... I am not saying everyone is biased but a lot of it has to do with the fact that AMD is still the underdog and the "best performance is found in Intel 8th gen processors".
Israel Lewis intel performs better only on games and literally nothing else
For the most part yes.
It annoys me when the reviewers say "latest and greatest 8th Gen processors"... Well most reviewers
I agree, nice to see an AMD Thin and Light review
A german using pounds and inches...... GAME OVER! The great review saves your blasphemy.
Mimo Slavich yes that is the main complain. Being in Europe and having so little reviews is these machines author is trying to be US like to much. Prices are in euros so rest should be in our systems...
Its so ridiculous! The whole world, including much much older cultures than the US, switched to the metric system as the global system of units for science and trade. Hell, the Saturn V that got the US to the moon was designed by Werner Von Braun in metric units.
But NO benchmarks ? Especially since all the 15 inch ryzen laptops have been review and this 13.3 inch apparently has the weaker model of gpu and it might even have worse performance compared to the 15 inch models.
Choice777 Hahah, you are the worst with all those inches.
This looks like the best Ryzen APU Notebook to me at the moment. Great video, thx. A few quick benchmark numbers, even in comments section, would be a nice addition.
Huge fan of these models. As a sales supervisor at big box tech store I really push the 15.6" version since it is on display but the 13" version I try to speak about
can u upgrade the ram and ssd??
saw a video where by the hp usb c charger fried the laptop
Great video man! I am looking forward to getting this. I would love for you to keep making videos! Really high quality content.
I just purchased this from Best Buy yesterday for school. Great review.
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Great video, really informative, chilled out and you came across very knowledgeable and friendly. Subbed!
Wonder if this is due for a 7nm refresh soon. Looks like the current model is getting cheap, wondering if I should wait or bite.
it's a £200 difference, not really worth it
The 2019 model of this laptop released recently so it doesn’t look like they’ll be updating it to 7nm anytime soon. The Ryzen 5 3500u in the new model is still Zen+ but just a new revision.
Are you from Germany? 😃
Very Cool Video! I Just bought the Ryzen 3 2300U / 8GB / 256GB SSD Version for School!
And what is your expierence with your new convertible pls?
Hans Wurst So I think its the BEST Budget Convertible! Its so Nice and small and light and the Performance is great too!
How is the hinge is it too loose? And when browsing the web does the fan turn on? If it does how loud is it? Thanks!
So we bought it at the prime day event for 549 Euro. I think this is a good price. My wife love this convertible now.
Night Fight Awesome! But if you plan to do some light gaming, make sure you get the Radeon drivers first.
Really good review you have persue Ed me to get it! You are an underrated channel and the production quality was amazing, great work and keep it up!
If anyone is thinking of buying this laptop, this model has problems with thermals and any advantage you think you might get with the ryzen chip is cancelled out by thermal throttling. Apparently the 15 inch has less problems.
Thanks for the review
Watching this Video on almost exactly the same Device. But mine has only 8 GB of RAM. I agree with you. It's a wonderful Convertible and i love it. For short trips (up to one week) i prefer this one. Otherwise i have to take my 17.3" Gaming Laptop with me, which is really heavy and often a bit overpowered for my usage.
The only thing stopping me from getting any laptop with the mobile cpu is the lack of thunderbolt 3 support but once it’s supported on a 2 in 1 ryzen laptop I am definitely buy it eight away, so long as I can afford it 😂
I have a spectre with two.thubderbolt ports. Never used them In a year. I was like you before
321bluff well you might be using it differently then what I plan to use it for. I want a ryzen cpu in a 2 in 1 laptop so so I can take it with me and take notes and some light coding and I want it to be the mobile ryzen since they are slightly better so it has enough power to do video and photo editing on the go and if I want to start gaming then I want the thunderbolt 3 port so I can hook up an external gpu do I can play games at higher settings and maybe even record. I want to do something similar to what Austin Evans recently did on a video called “Building the ultimate thunderbolt 3 setup” except with two regular monitors and maybe either a gtx 1070 or 1080
@@zora_tech its a 15 watt ryzen 8 and 10. And it thermal throttles coz of aluminium and slim chasy. So I would recommend is buy a spectre and egpu.
Well based on both being 15 watts I dont see how intels CPU wouldn't also throttle if AMD's throttles, just by basing it off that they would both being put in an slim aluminium enclosure. Either way based on other reviewers that have tested out Ryzen 2 in 1 laptops and referencing that with how I plan to edit videos it really wouldn't thermal throttle while editing/exporting videos or theoretically speaking it wouldn't throttle while playing games either while hooked up to an EGPU, if AMD ever adopts thunderbolt 3, since most current games are GPU intensive especially the ones I play.
@@zora_tech dude did u listen to what I said ? I said if both thermal throttles than go with Intel cox of thunder bolt 3 port. It is intel proprietory.
Is this computer good or bad? I see a bunch of reviews saying it's good but then the comments are completely mixed. How would it handle general web surfing and general homework?
man don't listen to the comments half these people don't have the laptop theyre trashing or simply cant afford it. Its literally the best laptop Ive ever had I returned my surface tab to get it and I couldn't be more happy. the screen is brilliant the processors fast as heck the ssd makes it run so smooth and quick literally you get so much bang for the buck its awesome. I do some gaming on it like streaming my xbox one and it works great and I watch videos and browse and it works amazing for all that. This laptop is made to do so much more so for just web surfing and homework itll breeze through. plus the touchscreen is really nice too. get it man you wont be returning it.
I have the laptop it replaced my yoga 730 it's great all around I primarily use it for business day to day and when I travel I use to edit hd video works great only thing I dont like is battery life 4hrs avg
I traded mine in for a new iPad Pro, 13 hour battery life average. I actually push the thing with high brightness and multiple apps to see if I can drain it faster sometimes and I cant. I love it man. I don’t need a full windows operating system, with luma fusion and procreate I can do everything my Laptop could only now I can do it lag free, no hot lap, or burning charger, lol.
2:13 no flex in the keyboard.. flexes
I dont know why but my laptops batery only lasts 3,5 hours in simple tasks, also the radeon benchmark is very poor, I have the ryzen 5 2500u and 8 gb ram, 256 ssd, it costs me 530 euros in México. :D
My laptop fan is very silent and my display is very bright, I dont know why many people says the opposite.
Thanks to your Ultrawide angle lense
You talk about benchmarks but don't show any. You don't show any screen metrics. You don't talk about thermal at all. You don't talk about emission. You don't talk about the keyboard. This is not a review, this is a "Look at my shiny new toy"-clip. Go over to mobiletechreview or any other decent tech channel and take pointers there.
Agreed, he has no business doing a review on laptops , because this laptop has a noisy fan and overheats quite often even when you just web browse
I believe he'll make a better work next time
He talks about ergonomics mostly. In my case i already know everything a ryzen procesador can handle, so i need one of these... badly
Go easy on him, it's just his side channel.
Most of the issues with thermals are with R7, with R5 it's not bad, if you want it quiet when web browsing just set lowest power state(battery saver).
Great review very helpful. Could you suggest something with a 14"?
Really good review, would be nice to have some close ups.
Got it for myself for chirstmast recently, version with R5/8GB/128GB so will have to replace the SSD, 1TB SataIII WD Blue on the way.
In UK they ship it with a type-c to female hdmi dongle.
Can you use type-c for charging? And what about fan noise when on load?
Yes the type-c port supports PD charging.
Fan noise is acceptable at a major load.
Hello!
How does this laptop stand up?
Is it still your daily mobile driver?
What's your current laptop right now?
Thank you very much!
I am in love with this laptop!
Baccarani
they cheaped out a bit on the screen. i can tell you as an owner of this exact model, in graphics that display one solid color, you can see individual pixels. its not noticeable in movies or videos, but definitely noticeable in solid shapes that are all one color. its not low resolution or anything, but im guessing the pixel density is rather low. i havent seen that sort of effect on any other laptop ive owned, so they definitely were trying to cut costs with the screen.
Nice review! Can you upgrade M.2 SSD in this device? Is the SSD soldered on motherboard or not?
Can be upgraded
Good review. I'm looking into getting this with the Ryzen 3 2300u in it off Craigslist. It's seems just right and would probably be stellar compared to the ASUS C201PA I'm using to type this on.
Did you get it.
So funny all these negative comments half these people don't have the laptop that they're trashing or simply cant afford it. Its literally the best laptop I've ever had and Ive had a MacBook Pro for years. I returned my surface tablet because it was having issues to get the hp envy 360x 13" and I couldn't be more happy. the screen is brilliant the processors fast as heck the ssd makes it run so smooth and quick literally you get so much bang for the buck its awesome. I do some gaming on it like streaming my xbox one and it works great and I watch videos and browse and it works amazing for all that. This laptop is made to do so much more so for just web surfing and homework itll breeze through. plus the touchscreen is really nice too. get it man you wont be returning it.
I personally bought this laptop and it has many issues. It has poor battery life although it boasts having more. I was only getting around 4-4.5 hours of battery life. The next issue I had was the fan emissions. It was crazy loud and you could definitely hear it when ur just surfing the web with a few tabs open. Overall highly disappointed.
1 Set power state to the lowest one(battery saver) will be quieter and save some battery obviously
2 Try to uninstall some of the HP's bloatware that you won't need
3 Don't run unnecessary apps in the background.
Anne if you do what I said before, your laptop will be quieter.
But you have to remember it's a ultrabook with failry powerfull APU and it simply has to be loud.
Traded mine in for a new IPad Pro. Went from 4 hours average battery life on the Envy to 13 on the pro. Luma fusion and Procreate blow any and every windows app out of the water for creating and editing. Apple store just has 100 times more apps for every possible thing you could need to create/do. And there’s no annoying fan noise, iPad stays nice and cool doesn’t even get warm.. It’s just a better experience if you’re willing to pay a little extra. Plus the Retina Screen is gorgeous and just looks so full of color its unreal. Videos look beautiful and pictures and artwork take on a new level. So happy with my choice. I would have settled had I kept the HP, deep down regretting all the shortcomings. Now I’m stoked every time I sit down with the Pro to work or play!
Does the hinge wobble much for you? I am deciding between the 2700U version of this and the normal ENVY 13, and my two biggest drawbacks of the X360 are its weaker graphics than the MX150, and a lot of people report a really wobbly hinge in laptop mode which would drive me insane
The Desert Boy nope a lot of the time the Vega 10 will outperform the mx150 up to you though
I have the Intel version with the MX150 so i'll give you the performance with this laptop. On older titles like Burnout Paradise, it can be maxxed out no issue but newer titles like Dirt 4, or big older titles like GTA IV need to run at around medium. Same with Fortnite (if you play that) I was able to set it to low and turn up the texture detail and anti aliasing to medium and render distance to high. But an important note is this laptop does not have large enough grips or legs or whatever you want to call it, so when the CPU and GPU are at full usage, it will start to throttle in laptop mode. It doesn't if you put it in presentation mode or just lift it slightly off the table with something. And with the hinge, it is fine and will stay reasonable still in laptop mode.
Schönes Teil für das Geld. Hab mir selber vor 2 Monaten ein Acer Switch 3 geholt, 330 Euro mit Windows 10 S mit Gratisupgrade auf Pro. Realistisch muss meine Kiste aber nur zum Surfen und für Teamviewer herhalten. Deine Begeisterung für W10 im Touch-Betrieb mag ich aber nicht so ganz Teilen. ;)
Das Review-Format find ich an sich gut, aber 3D-Printing-Stuff wär mir lieber ;)
Currently owned this laptop. It makes loud fan noise from just browsing alone and not doing anything intensive with it.
does your model have 120hz panel as well? Mine came in with it + privacy filter
Nice review!! HP laptops are something to go for.
Camera should be closer to the subject rather the presenter and his sofa. Still, a worthwhile review.
Keep up the great content!
Excellent review, thanks
Great review. Thank you.
You have another Channel as well? :D
How bright does the Screen get? I would love to get a bright screen, so i can use outside.
P.S: Du machst extrem gute Videos! Hast mir den Einstieg in den 3D Druck sehr erleichtert.
Ich überlege, mit den Laptop zum Studienbegin zu kaufen.
Did you edit this video with this laptop? I'm considering this laptop (but 15.6") to make videos myself. I'm only worried about overheating during rendering if the videos end up being very long.
surely stop using a wide-angle lens, bad viewing experience...really
Great video!!
Hi! Have you updated your SSD? How did it worked? I saw that the Spectre has some tricky clips attached to the battery. Is it the same with the Envy? Would be cool if you have a video about this.
Who is happy with this laptop? Is there any better alternative?
the USB-C port feels very fragile to me. considering you don't have an HDMI port, it's a risk. also the fan is loud, it's always on. the rest is awesome. there are worse ultrabooks for the same money. I mean even the body - most of them for this money have bending plastic and not many have touch screens.
@@slasaru thanks for the feedback
Nice review dude, did somebody has told you that you looks like Cillian Murphy? Lol
Should focus the camera on the device rather than you focus on youself all the time..
just bought this laptop! Premium stuff!
Nice review! I've look at the Ryzen 3 2300U Vega 6 version, cost 698€ here in 🇳🇴 is that powerfull enough to stream Netflix, Hbo without any slowdowns/struggling ? The PCMark10 hast tested the Ryzen 5 variant to have 3hours of videplayback and 4hours for the Ryzen 3.
That’s seems to be low. But i never use the brightness over 40% though.
The reason i ask about performance is: I tryed a Asus Vivobook 14 with Core i3 8130 and Uhd 620.
I had to deliver it back, because it did not manage to provide a good streaming experience for me. I also tried and put the pc in full performance mode without getting so much better.
I boughtt the ryzen 5, vega 8 for 530 eur.
Hallo, kann man den Laptop auch über den USB C Port laden? Schönes Review :-)
I liked this laptop but had it only for one day. Unfortunately the fan is loud and it gets warm pretty fast. It's nice looking equipment but really .... it's not for me. I had to return it back where I got it from. I am planning to buy HP envy series laptop but.... not with AMD processor.
Hi, tom, only knew your 3d printing channel, but i will buy this laptop for school and cad (Fusion 360) for 3d printing. My main rig is a r5 1600 an a rx570, but it is sadly not portable.
when i heard about that IR thing i had to jump in haha
i was going to get this one, but then i got the regular hp envy 13.
I chose that because intel > amd and no heat throttling issues
you forgot ryzen > whatever intel has in this form factor though
eh still like intel just been more reliable for me
Hey thats my laptop :D
Honestly, I got this laptop this summer and it's been terrible from the get go. The fan starts blowing like a maniac for no apparent reason, like when I'm only using word or have a few tabs open in chrome. I feel like I just got unlucky and bought one with a hardware problem...
@Ace D Thanks for your reply!
Yeah.. thing is, when the fan starts working like crazy it gets hot, which results in it having to work even harder in order to cool it down.
I generally really like this laptop, but the fan is kind of driving me nuts. For a 900 euro laptop, this really disappointed me.
Have you experienced such problems?
@@sibelsafak8165 It's not a gaming laptop, nor is it advertised as such. The heat dissipation is a common and major design flaw in the ENVY 13 due to it's slim design.
The ENVY 15 and ENVY 17 struggle a lot less with loud fans or power limitation due to thermal design but also have a bigger case.
Maybe you can work out a refund for your ENVY 13 and put the money towards an ENVY 15 if that's such a big issue.
Other tech channels have found a significant decrease in both productivity and gaming performance on the ENVY 13 compared to the ENVY 15 even with identical hardware because the processor/APU gets throtteled to a power limit of 15 Watt by HP on the ENVY 13, but 25 Watt on the ENVY 15 for the same reason.
I'd say stay the hell away from the ENVY 13 unless you want something portable and don't care about performance at all.
@@Kaleopan would you go for 15" with Ryzen 5 or Ryzen 7?
Great! Since the new MacBooks where a massive disappointment I'll probably upgrade from my old MacBook Air to one of these. Thanks for the info!
Edit:I just bought it...
Hi there. Wich HP Envy 13" x360 did you buy? He is good? Best regards.
I bought a 13" with the Ryzen 3 2200U with Vega 6 graphics and 256GB SSD. It's far from a powerhouse, but it's still a quad core machine with decent integrated graphics. I've liked it a lot for a Windows laptop so far, and I agree with everything this video says. The only things I didn't like is the amount of HP crap I had to uninstall, but that's a given for any windows laptop that isn't a Surface, and the fact that the keyboard doesn't have a back light.
Where can you get this laptop with 16GB RAM? I can't find it available anywhere in Europe, with 2 orders already canceled because it's "unavaialble".
How do I calibrate its extruder?
Does it have any coil whine issue that plagues most (if not all) Intel 7th/8th mobile Core processor-based laptops?
Is that a fisheye lense or a ultra wide screen on that laptop?
Seeing this in 2021 for $360 Canadian... Is there any stylus support? Is it decent for digital handwriting if so?
Great review. 😀🇦🇺
How good does this laptop work for fusion 360?
any fan noise issues? heard a lot complain abt the fan noise n thermal issues in this machine.
Where did you get in Germany, can you send some link and what is the model number :-D ?
I heard about it overheating a lotttt and it being very loud with the fans.. is that true?
Yep... But you can try the solutions for the same
13 inch? That looks like an ultra wide laptop
its a wide angle lens haha
Where are you getting your 16gb ram out of ? Ryzen 5 model comes with 8gb ram ( Dual channel 2x4gb )
Andy O Brien off of hp you can do the 2200 with 8gb 2500 with 16gb or 2700 with 8gb keep in mind the 2500 verson is more expesive then the 2700 vers
Ok , Can anyone tell me if the 8gb is dual channel memory ?
You would think they would mention it in the specs , I know the 15inch screen one is .
Andy O Brien 2x4 dual channel
David and is it soldered or you'd install at least one ram module after buying?
La tengo y es espectacular
Is this laptop dual channel?
Yep, it is. It would bottleneck the Ryzen chip otherwise
i think you have to convert the single 8gb stick to two 4gb stick as it has two slots and the motherboard can only handle 8gb ram
I've heard these have only 3-4 hours battery life, where the intel version is 5-6hours. Thats a big difference. I don't understand why since I think both are 15w tdp cpus.
Second channel, oooooh.
I’m not sure if he mentioned it or not but I am looking for a portable mutli use laptop and this seems to be it.But I have one question,could you do any gaming on this laptop?Games including,fortnite,csgo and anything inbetween.
+Cz418
E-sports titles like that shouldn't be a problem.
Granted I haven't looked at benches for this mobile APU, but the desktop version is essentially identical other then some potential clock speed differences and those does high end games at lowest setting at 900p just fine and e-sport titles like the ones you mentioned at highest setting 1080p just fine (although you might want to lower the settings to get better framerates).
some kinda funny lens?.....that looks like a FIFTEEN inch laptop!....(and yer head looks HUGE!...hahahahahahaha!!!)
The Ryzen z version tends to thermal throttle.
My country only has the 8gb version and I also want it for video editing on the go :(. Do you think 8gb will be enough, I don't plan to do 4k or any fancy stuff and I will also render in my main machine, but I'll use Resolve, which is quite resource heavy.
Crimson Koba they say 6gb above is fine. So it will be okay
Do some cool shoots showing the ports and add an introoooo
Can you edit video in 4k or 1080p in Premiere? Or run new games at low settings? Does it have a stylus to draw? Is it precise?
+Juan Andrés
I haven't looked up the details for these mobile versions of the processors, but they're in essence the same as the desktop ones.
And the desktop ones are good for 900p gaming for more demanding titles and does 1080p just fine in e-sports titles but struggles with memory bandwidth limitations (memory is the one thing holding it back meaning that the higher end APUs (R5 2400G) don't perform much better then the lower end ones (R3 2200G), I assume the same is true for these laptops, although since they're running at a slightly lower speed to concerve power the memory limitations should be aliviated a tiny bit allowing the hardware to actually stretch its legs a bit more.
For gaming I'd just buy the APUs without SMT but with more memory.
For productivity the higher end one has twice the threads and can be decent for that role even if it can't match a hex core from Intel.
One thing worth noting is that what kind of software you're using plays a huge role in what hardware is best for you.
Adobe has recently added support for the video encoder unit in the iGPU of Intels processors improving Intels performance in that application even when compared to higher end AMD hardware.
In software that actually makes *use* of this hardware you'll probably end up loving it though as you're getting a *lot* of hardware for the money.
Is that color is black???
i'm looking into the 15"
I bought a 13" Envy. The specs looked good to me for that price. I returned it even if it was the best p.c. LAPTOP I've had. The best 13"? Not even close. For another $275 I bought the new upgraded MacBook Air 13". It just works, the way it should & with Apple Care+, it's a breeze with no worries. I've own and tried many computer from Chromebook to MacBooks and many Linux operating system 'windows' p.c. Didn't want to relearn all that I did in being a windows geek, spending too much time to keep it going, mostly due to 'Bill Gates ware'. The NEW "Mb Air" works for me fine and only cost me $999 with no taxes! (my 'secret') The H.P pc brand is the best windows for the most people but I didn't want to deal with the support department. Nothing like great personal service a couple of blocks away at the Apple Store.
Is it good for Android studio developers
I'd say stay the hell away from the ENVY 13 unless you want something portable and don't care about performance and the hardware inside your laptop being throttled by thermal design at all.
OMG THOMAS YOU HAVE ANOTHER CHANNEL?
was about to write this
Which one is better, the Microsoft surface 2 or HP ENVY "13 x360?
The envy
Hi I have bought the same laptop. why is the Fan running so loud all the time . Is yours doing the same. ive just unboxed it and done the install but from the moment i started it the fan running loud.
Hi same for me, i've found this : open the " Hp command center " and juste select the ending option which deasable the fan (not totaly but nearly), just don't keep this option when doing huge staff or your laptop will die....
How are you getting 6-7 hours of battery with mixed use? Especially on full brightness? My device only lasts 3 hours on battery saver and low brightness
Same here. Did you find a way to improve it in any way?
Me too, I changed it for another new one and the same problem.
mine is the same...Im guessing that he only did an estimate but didn't fully test.
Is the 8gb model single or dual channel? The 13inch model has soldered ram so i need to know if it is single or dual because ryzen is super sensitive to this.
Is it dual?
what about CPU temperature ?
Is there an empty NVMe drive slot?
Man great laptop, but some things bug me with it. Like the fact that vent only on one side, or button on the left side. The power should be USB C only and it should be on the left. Small things like that bug me with this laptop. While the Yoga 730 is much cleaner in design.
Ultraviolet Thunderpussy haha thanks for the information but wtf is your name 😂
I have this laptop and i would say AVOID unless your very very lucky.
Went through 3 Replacements in 1 month, now in the process of a refund.
+First - Had several deadpixel on arrival. Returned the next couple days for a replacement.
+Second - Was okay, untill 2hours after arrival, the LCD adhesive started to separate near the bottom left corner to midway when tilting the screen. Returned the next day for another replacement.
+Third - Thought this was the one, but no... Trackpad was lifting from one corner and other side of trackpad was stuck. Insanely loud fan, like a hair dryer. Updated bios, tried HP Coolsense bs and so on but nothing works. Previous two laptop did not exhibit this issue. Yes i know this is a small-form factor laptop, but even at idle the fan kicked in 100% with temperature reaching to 55-65 degrees at 20-30% load and previous two laptop did not exhibit this issue. Now in the process of just getting a refund and moving elsewhere before the return policy expires...
The first two seemed to come from the same batch (checking the serial number) where the third one came from a different batch. HP seriously has some quality issues with the ryzen line-up or in general with the envy line up. Performance it self was good to an extent...The main issue is AMD drivers with lack of support and update - easier to search this up rather than me explaining it. I'm not hating AMD, i rock a Ryzen 1700 on my main desktop and absolutely love it. But this laptop was enough to drive me crazy. Looks beautiful and slim, affordable but deceiving. HP support was friendly enough for the replacement and refund, but all 3 laptops had issues on ARRIVAL, give a couple of months who knows what other issue could have popped up and if they would have honoured their warranty. Theres alot of online thread complaining with similar or even worser situations and there's also HP and several other company binning the Ryzen chip from 15W to 12W and then thermal throttling. Just a shame that this could have been one of the best budget laptop but plagued with poor design, a single driver update and quality issues...
Hey! Need some help, i recently got this laptop and i noticed that the fans are mostly running all the time... sometimes they reach peak speeds and when i move the laptop even a little i can face an Harsh vibration by the fan mostly in the lower body ...is this normal with this laptop, any fixes?
Keith Veigas Go to Hp command centre and go to thermal thing and switch it to silent, it does no difference to your performance or anything, it just makes the fan noise go away, No problem
So switch your thermal profile to silent
Can it work as a dual channel? or No more added memory slot