Game Theory: How To WIN A War (Assassin's Creed Odyssey)
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Assassin's Creed Odyssey is a game about choice. Are you going to fight for Athens or Sparta? Today Theorists, I am going to give you the information you NEED to help you make the RIGHT CHOICE. You want to WIN the war? Here's how!
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Sparta wins because their army wears red and Athens wears blue.
If you remember the episode about colors, you know.
Blue is a nerds colour.
I like blue and I'm a nerd so your right!
More like Sparta wears nothing
*looks at movie 300*
SHUT UP!
Why do ppl hate athenians when they invented democracy lol
How to win a war:
Step 1: Ask Ezio
Step 2: Make him target the entire army
I would ask altiar for help
Luke McNamara yeppp
Creedy boiz
Ask all of the asassins and then make them target the entire army.
Simply give them assasian contract
And once we actually got the game, learned the mechanics, and played through the story at least once, we realized that the real option was to side with no one, work for both, and just be a war profiteer selling your services to the highest bidder at the time (meaning you got 2 pieces of trash gear instead of 1)
At least you can sell that trash, or dismantle it whatever floats your figurative boat.
@@Frostyman452 or actual boat if you use those resources to upgrade the adrestia
Cole McMullin That too.
I just go for the spartans in all battles. Because yeah, you're a misthios of course you aren't gonna enlist into a side, you choose who you fight for each battle. But I like to see as going for sparta all the time as perfering them more instead of athens.
@@BigM1020 Well to kill all cultists you gotta fight for Athens too
"This baby's flailing arms will do a fine job of holding a shield some day"
*Drops the shield to the baby*
Some day? more like TODAY!
@@justsomerandombirdwithinte5896 god damn i hate you.
@@averypoggamer3700 The child has progressed well
@@justsomerandombirdwithinte5896 i helped u take over athens in the game. Thank me.
@@JyotiSharma-bt4ti no
Ubisoft watching this video knowing damn well the games not that deep
*Im in danger*
**chuckes**
The Blue Phoenix: Captain Gamer *chuckles*
Bill Nye the German Spy
You are a daed meme
@Gunner Hosek *liao
Ok now lm a daed meme
In oddysey you fight for whoever give you more gear
at least the better gear
Exactly
The spartan war hero set is WAY cooler than the athenian one
I dont i dont need epic gear
I just chose who will be easier because my gear is always better then theirs
One of my favorite Spartan comebacks is during the three-day Battle of Thermopylae. King Xerxes sent a message to the Greek infantry ((headed by Leonidas)) that basically said, "Our archers will fire so many arrows that we will block out the sun." The second in command of the Greek army, a Spartan warrior himself, replied, "Then we will have our battle in the shade."
My favorite is “if”
How to win a war: “If”
*USSR Anthem If remix starts playing*
It’s like he knows that I have an oral history exam about Ancient Greece
Wow
Same
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Good luck then in the exam,I got helped on a test too
I want a mod where you can't die (you're chuck norris)
Just because you’re a dad now doesn’t mean you can only tell dad jokes, Mat
He always has and he always will. That's his way. It may be annoying as hell sometimes, but at least it's original.
He's been training hard on telling shitty jokes for years, let him have his moment of dad glory
Wait he is a dad???
@@reiniermels9288 yeup! And he shares pictures of his baby in his instagram. The baby's adorable!!!!
@@reiniermels9288 yes he is.
You can’t mention the Peloponnesian war without mentioning Alcibiades
History’s ultimate “Chad”
Tell me more
"Generals can't get laid"
Alcibiades: "now that's a lie"
and Testikles
Aren't you forced to be Spartan it literally says on the back "become a legendary Spartan hero"
The game wants you to be Spartan but you can side with Athens anyway if you want.
You're still biologically spartan. You can choose Athens and still be a Spartan hero.
On the official wiki page it says Kassandra sided with Athens but technically you can side with both.
The Eagle Bearer is a Spartan citizen by birth and, depending on your choices, can reclaim their citizenship during the main story.
To be honest with the old Assassins Creed Combat Mechanics you could literally take out an entire army.
Block and counter
@Kenneth John Valencia combo moves are way too op
@@user-ft3jq5vi2l are you 10?
"historical accuracy"
Just wait and press RT + X (R2 + 🔳)
I dont side with anyone, whenever theres a battle i just always go on the attacking side so i get more loot.
Spoken like a true Misthios.
I always side with Sparta, they're cooler imo
You are not a true spartan, you should be thrown off a cliff for this!!! 😂😂😂 jk
Bamby Gamer he did like alexios
"Look, I'm all about loyalty. In fact, I feel like part of what I'm being paid for here is my loyalty. But if there were somewhere else that valued loyalty more highly, I'm going wherever they value loyalty the most."
-Dwight Schrute
Doubt you'll read this, ya know, 2 years after the theory but i have to say THANK YOU. This theory single-handedly got my back into the AC games. I got bored of them and the rinse and repeat gameplay, despite kinda being interested in the story. This theory showed me what Odyssey was like and so I tried it out and it's so far my favorite AC game of all time, I also played origins, but Odyssey improved on even that so it was great. I have high hopes for Valhalla now too, I hope they keep up this new streak of improvement.
In my opinion, Odyssey was/is far better than Valhalla. Raids in Valhalla are kind of cool, but honestly ultimately very one-sided compared to the tons of choices in Odyssey. Maybe later on in the game, you get more choice, but for the bit, I played, I got pretty bored. Rarely the cool new shield blocking mechanics/parry was ever used outside of the first time you're shown it, and that disappointed me to the point that after a little while, I went back to Odyssey.
@@kingzach74 honestly, same, Valhalla's setting is fun, but Odyssey was better over all. My least favorite part is that they brought back Paper chasing from Black Flag, the parkour system is still not made for that. Till you can maintain a proper line and not randomly jump other directions when parkouring, don't make it a major part of the game XD
Valhalla is fun and all but tbh it sucked compared to odyssey For Multiple Reasons
1. It was so fun that it made me play twice and Fun fact I dont play twice so yeah
2. The Story was actually interesting whereas Valhalla I kinda expected what would happened
3. You had 1 thing to do after you beat the game but with odyssey increased it by a lot The new DLC made it so much better that it was So fun
4. in Valhalla Skills are kinda weak its just required for certain builds but for odyssey it was Down right Amazing And together with builds it made things a lot more fun
If you guys think I made a mistake leave a reply to this comment.
What he says in this video isn't even used in odyssey though...
“Favorite ac game” 😟
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You aren't punished for stealing. You're punished for getting caught. Just a theory, what if Sparta was just as dishonorable as Athens, they just didn't get caught? Hmmmm...
That's a theory right there
Daniel Pettingale wow it's almost like we watched the same video
Hmmm what if they maybe sorta only won cause they had help of some certain.... Persians?
@@heat_of_the_cold What if they literally had hundreds of thousands of slaves tucked away somewhere? HMMMMMM.....
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While Sparta did reply “if” to king Phillip it’s worth noting they were a completely irrelevant backwater by that point.
Their entire militaristic society was about being armed enough to stop a slave revolt, but by that point they were arming their slaves.
Sparta, while cool, is severely over hyped.
Na They was scared no matter what they said
Ken Sloan most historians think Phillip just kept Sparta around to use as a possible boogie man.
Merc at Arms FEAR IS STRONGER THAN ANY BLADE
@@Jessie_Helms For more information, check out Invicta's video on the Spartan Myth.
Also the Spartans were prohibited from participating in the Pankration portion of the Olympics because it was actually a part of their daily life and were so skilled
"There's only so far back you can go" (some years later)
We're playing an Assassins Creed game as a cell
Assassins creed: Mitochondria
Spore?
Osmosis Jones
I imagen at some point will play as adam or eve against the human forerunners
That’s spore.
Athens : "If I bring my army into your land, I will destroy your farms, slay your people and raze your city."
Sparta : "IF"
Behold, one of the world's earliest BURNs
They were already famous for that. The Greeks called it by the name "Laconism", after the Spartan name for their land: Laconia.
Xerxes: lay down your weapons and I will be merciful.
Leonidas: come and get them.
Famous because it made it into the first history book ever written, Herodotus' Histories. Also, the person who sent that message was Philip II of Macedon, and it was a century after the Peloponnesian War.
Phillip the father Alexander the Great is not Athenian he is Macedonian
Lol you mean athens conqueror Phillip 2 of Macedonia. To add to this Alexander didnt mess with the Spartans either lol.
In 2014 they wouldve said #yoloswag
that's how real fire was first made
The "babies off the cliff" claim is just a myth, Sparta didn't actually do that.
True
They just put the baby down and leave it to die to sickness or someone
@@giannistragakis6742 king Ottakar II conquered all of the World even America i'm from Bohemia, so i know
I love how this is basically history class (which I always hated) but really triggers a desire to learn about it. Gotta love it
No way you said you hate history class
Thrown off a cliff because of the profecy forecasting that the child will be the doom of Sparta.
Years later, Sparta destroyed by the same child who was thrown off a cliff.
Irony in its finest.
That's pretty much how all the stories of prophecies back then go. Someone receives information that an action will cause their downfall, and in attempting to prevent it are the sole reason for the motivation of said action.
Either that or they completely misinterpret what the prophecy said. Like that one king who asked the oracle if he should fight a specific war. And it said: "This war will the downfall of a great empire.". So he fought it. Unfortunately the empire that fell was his own.
@@armedwombat6816 King Kyros ( pronounced Ki-ros) was the king of the Ionians who were Greeks who emigrated in Minor Asia. When the Persians attacked he asked Pythia who is the oracle of Apollo to tell him the outcome of the battle she answered that this war would the downfall of an empire so he thought that he would. But he lost and was almost burned in the Pyre if it wasn't for the Persian emperor who was touched by the self sacrifice of Kyros who accepted to die as long as his people were spared. That's the start of the Persian War
P. S I'm Greek that's how I know all the details
Vassilis Dafermos and that’s how oracles on ancient world outsmarts and scammed people into believing that they can actually forecast the future...while the truth is, no matter which side win in that war between empires, an empire will likely end up falling from glory.
so his game have the same plot as tekken 1
matpat what about option 3: when choosing a side:
dont choose a side, and murder both sides making you the sole survivor of the war.
We will rise from the ashes of our enemies, and build a new civilization!
Lantern 501 If you killed everyone else you can't build a new civilization
@@klake5375 I'm a civilization of 1. :p
Lantern 501 heh
No, go on both sides and spread the secrets of both sides with each other. Then when the war goes on you can then kill everyone there is. And the war would look way more messy. That is how you win.
Quick note: Sparta was a slave society that relied on slaves to take care of everything excluding the army, there slaves were often slaughtered under any suspicion of rebellion. I'm not sure if it's so honorable to throw away all the children whom may of become a great warrior just because they were a little bit weak as a child. Plus Sparta was not conquered by Alexander because Sparta was weak and in constant decline by the time Alexander was in power, he could have conquered it if he really wanted to, but it was way more insulting to the Spartans. Plus Sparta's reluctance to adopt bows and other modern invention's, is a weakness.
Global Warning I agree
I'm relatively young (11) and I just randomly felt like researching about Greece and its myths.
Anyways Greece is really cool. I admire their techniques.
Check out a channel called Overly Sarcastic Productions. They’ve got a lot of really cool Greek stuff.
Jalen Rodriguez yeah I should’ve been more specific, I started researching about it 5 years ago. I’m now starting Egypt.
Yeah, I also admire how they essentially threw unwanted children out to die of exposure.
BoyStank you should try reading Herodotus’s histories he goes through a lot of Greek history and customs as well as Persian and Egyptian ones as well
BoyStank so you’re saying that you chose to start researching about Greece and it’s myths when you were 6
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Low LVL Weapon: Fists.
High LVL Weapon: Rock
Caveman smashes rocks together accidentally creates the world's first hidden blade.
DLC:Rock on stick
Godlike LVL: pointy rock on sitck
Hidden rock on stick, he pulled it out behind his back
Discovers map by pissing on trees
Opens Google
"Who won the Peloponesian War"
AND THATS JUST A THEORY
RandomPersonGuy_ A game theory
Mark Biswas thanks for watching
but is a GAME THEORY?
first result, "Persia"
second result, "Macedon"
It's the sort of war that both sides lost the moment it started.
@@HO1ySh33t So any war started in a TH-cam comment section?
I don't really see how a game that has the player explore memories, could employ choices and in turn, change the plot. If so, then the Animus was just a time travel device all along.
has nothing to due with that
Something to do with the memory stream being corrupted
Well, if the canon is to be believed,somehow, Layla's Animus is an exception as technically, she's not using her own DNA. Her connection to these memories is artificial, therefore allowing her to explore what if scenarios of history, which is somehow important in once again preventing a second Great Catastrophe which seems to depend on causality itself despite Desmond's sacrifice.
It's weird. It's so goddamn weird.
i thought he was gonna teach us how to wage and win a war
Sparta was a army with a state, not a state with an army
Sparta was A army?
Kinda like prussia
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@@arrowhdar1574 nobody cares about fortnite here
Wait, that's Prussia
"Spartans are more honorable!"....
*THROWS TODDLER OFF A CLIF FOR NOT HAVING A FIT BODY*
Every greek city state did that. Sparta just more so. If you wanna get on the sexist side, Athens mostly threw baby girls off cliffs because families wanted boys. Sparta kept their woman.
I only survived infancy because of my rockin' six pack. AS IT SHOULD BE.
SOMEONE SCREAM YEET!
I do admire their honor.
@@kaata-strophickatt1977 YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
I’m Greek and I love this game! I was also born and raised in Athens and I still live here. And for that reason I went with Athens in the game cause I’m actually Athenian irl.
As if I couldn’t tell lel
,,I went with the athens"
*Man , i know im the devil , but CHILL*
EDIT 2023 : what the hell is this, when and why did I write this???
i respect that
@@liker-qd4fz Sparta is debatably worse. With their mass slavery and oligarchy and all.
8:56 I once was an adventurer like you...Then i took an arrow to the knee
Wait.... I know you.
The thing I like about about game theory and film theory, is that it's not like other educational game channels. Matt Pat talks to you as if you are having a conversation with him. combined with some jokes it just makes this even more enjoyable (also the editing is very good for the amount of time they put in)
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Wow thank you game theory for hearting my comment this is just how i felt during this video
Sebastian Sebastian Enjoyable? Hell yes!
Educational? You must be joking... :D
Well said
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12:00 - For me, that fourth reason is that I spent most of my senior years in high school (here we call years 11 & 12, or sophomore and senior, our senior years) studying ancient Greece; specifically Sparta, Grecian wars and political figures. Literally adore Sparta after spending all that time reading about them and building them up onto the pedestal they now rule upon in my mind. Anyway, back to the video. *Scrolls back up to finish the video.*
I think there's a reason no assassins creed game has had multiple endings before, it doesn't make any sense with the animus setup. If the animus makes you experience your ancestors memories, or a least a playable interpretation of them, then there isn't a way for the multiple endings to make sense.
@Sorow Fame THANK YOU, I have been telling people that, but they just call me ignorant..
Well.. trust me you are sorta right.. they do both actually exist.. but Ubisoft already put out a novel showing that Cassandra is the Cannon character, and the novels covers the actual choices she made.. so to me.. for a game series that is heavily based on fact historical event aligned with the timeline of their characters.. this new game breaks cannon.. and create a paradox.. and that's a big OOF.. fun game.. sad it's not what is actually happening.. because all of the Greek story is not cannon..
Well, it is ancient history. Remember the assassins creed was never founded until after the fall of Caesar and Cleapatra. I’ve studied Ancient history for a time and most evidence that we can get from such an era is either filled with more questions than answers or, unfortunately, irrelevant, regardless of where it came from. For example the legend of ‘300’ was written 2 generations AFTER Xerxes assault on Leonidosies forces and the sacking of Athens. Bias and certain elements of ‘evidence’ are a factor in history that can never point out into 1 ending/ answer.
Even if it sound like I support the whole ‘multiple ending’ thing for the game, I just needed to put this out there.
Peter Liszka while I concede that historically either could have happened I'm more bringing up an issue of the in-game lore. The point is that you are going through your ancestors memories, how could the same person experience to different outcomes to the same event?
You dont even realize how much it doesnt make sense. After finishing the game, Spoilers,
You encounter the character you played as, even though according to the logic set up by the story and the confirmed canon of the franchise, this should be kassandra regardless of who you chose. But no, alexios is apparently there if you choose him. This was very poorly thought out in everyway imaginable and its the only game in the franchise i refuse to pick up.
Both boys and girls of Sparta were taught to fight because it was thought that Sparta was greater that its people, and if they were invaded, everyone would have to fight.
Also, women who died during childbirth were buring honorable alomgside men who'd perished in battle- showing the battle of childbirth was equal to physical weaponry-fought war.
that is sweet!
InfiniteIdeas squared what about the children who didn’t seen fit enough to fight in a war?
Women also had a lot of responsibility in Sparta. When the men were away at the war the women ran the country and kept the masses of slaves in line. Furthermore when a man died his wife inherited his property. There were a lot of very wealthy women in Sparta. The Athenians looked down on Sparta because of this.
@@bracey191 They grew up and had a happy family.
@@danielantony1882 yea on the bottom of a cliff
I'm a simple man:
I see assassins creed... I click
“You either side with Athena, or Sparta, your family”
Me who just kills everyone for the luls:
Matpat, you get a like for the rainbow 6 siege reference. Keep up the good work lol
Same here, except I like matpat vids just us its matpat and all his content is good, but the R6S reference was good, also my fav matpat vid is his R6S in real life vid.
@d62272 11:26
This video was created with help from Ubisoft, if there was not an references to other Ubi titles there would be something wrong.
Next assassins creed is about dinosaurs clawing at each other
If I can play an assassin raptor I might give assassins creed a second chance
Ubisoft= the comet
Far cry primal
I can't wait
Assassin’s Creed:Age of Extinction
This is my 2nd favorite Assassin's Creed game next to Assassin's Creed Origins! I always love learning some information from you MatPat about history!
Whenever I kick something ingame I yell "THIS IS SPARTA"
10/10 hanzo main joke
Lol this made my day
I loved it
TheMemeGuy im a genji main tho
Roadhog...
DA BOSS PLAYZ I’m not healing you
Assassin's Creed Neanderthal, where you play as a Neanderthal fighting against the aggressive humans as one of the last tribes of your kind. You fall in love with one of the humans and create the first assassin.
TheHomicidalTendency LoL I would buy that
I would by that too, that sounds cool
Sounds like a far cry primal rip off tbh
If what your implying means we get to see the first assassin ever then yea im down to play that
They already did something like that,far cry primal.
How to win a war??
Easy
Just ask Ezio Auditore and he will do the rest
Yup
Or other assassins
Why is everyone commenting this?
Is Ezio in this theory?
@@obesepork9620 Its because Ezio has taken out empiresss
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Bob Allen your life maybe
Harman Kang this may be weird but I am certain I never wrote this
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MatPat, just because you have an elite fighting force of almost superhuman warriors does not mean that any mercenaries will be gainfully employed by you. History also tells us that Sparta was exceedingly wary of engaging in wars, and was actually a diplomatic powerhouse. Why? Slaves.
Sparta had *a lot* of slaves, and were extremely worried that these slaves would revolt if their fighting force was ever preoccupied with battle anywhere outside of easy access to Sparta itself.
I believe Extra Credits did a series on Thermopylae, where they talk about this.
NeptunesOrcaII great comment! Donald Kagan wrote a great book on the Peloponnesian War and his Yale lectures are on TH-cam. I recommend them to any who want to learn more
I agree, the Spartans threated the Helots horribly. The Spartans considered themselves foreign invaders for a very long time, which gave them an excuse to suppress the Helots. Although this is a major point of social inequality, the Spartans did threat their women better in comparison to the Atheneans. Women were allowed to practice sports, go outside whenever they want and some of them were incredibly rich, making them quite important in society, as opposed to the Athenean women who weren't even allowed to go outside without a man (pretty sure it wasn't a rule, it was more likely just in their culture).
I'm sorry if my English is perhaps a bit broken, it's not my main language, but I love to talk about this. I just started studying history and I have to say it's even better than expected.
"So the Spartans allied with Persians to preserve their crush Athenian democracy, in the name of FREEDOM of course."
As a Greek citizen i have to say that there were a lot of historical errors but because people in the comments have spotted them too i wont write them again. Also i am really happy to see that so many people know about the history of ancient Greece (sometimes even better than Greeks themselves...)!! Soo, greetings from Greece to all of you guys!!😄❤
Nefeli anonymous i love greek history and greek gods, i think of them so cool and interesting!
@@Santiago-sh4vc its really nice to hear that!!
Όντως, ούτε εγώ δεν το περίμενα.
Hello from the US
And they murdered our language and overused the malaka
6:45 Alexander the great did not try to conquer Sparta because he wasn't even born at that time, he was born 100 years after the war.
he never said that
I love listening to you talking about the most random stuff while I do my homework. I usually haven't even played the game or watched the movie you're talking about. Makes my day just a little bit better.
4:11 actually the Spartans gave rights to the woman there, unlike in Athens.
No one cares
@@christianconrad3765 yeah they do
@@christianconrad3765 if you didnt care why did you take your time to say that?
Brightstar429 *there
Brightstar429 it was the way around
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Turns out it doesnt matter what side you choose because you dont get to choose a side lmfao The game was still pretty good though.
4:43
THE PELOPONNESIAN WAR
Shows a mosaic of Alexander the Great fighting Darius III
Glad to see I wasn't the only one to notice.
The Spartans got the ladies because they gave them actual human rights and let them own property, not just because their awesome pecs (although I imagine that was also a factor)
Thats true, women in Sparta had way more rights and had their own part of the government, the system they had was man marries woman, man dies gives woman all his money, money is split between children no matter gender, and thus woman built up a fortune.
Hatefulhierarchy they had more rights but it still wasnt good living for anyone there. Sparta kind of sucked to live in for multiple reasons
Look the time of the greeks everything kinda sucked in europe let's be honest.
Correction everything kinda sucked everywhere.
It sucked in Europe more, let's just say this historically Europe earned the suckage world record, while herbal medicine that worked was invented in Asia, Europeans preffered the cut off the leg method.
Well, so much for going against the way it is supposed to be. I did not know the history and picked to go with sparta because their flag looks like the assassin's creed symbol, and also i liked 300. Though i am not sure if there is a "can't turn back now" moment in the main quest, since i have been actively avoiding it since i got my ship. I have just been destabalizing and helping sparta conquer athen regions as i explore.
I love that this game tried the RPG elements. Im replaying the game because of quarantine and it still feels like Assassins Creed even with the different elements
if you really want to talk about spartans "getting the girl," a good reason would be that in most greek cultures women were seen as sub-human and, comparatively, spartan women had the most rights and were actually granted full citizenship after turning 18, unlike in other greek cultures. they were expected to be educated and be physically fit and able to fight. spartan women were also the only women allowed to drink wine so, you know. that helps too.
Why does everyone keeping bringing up the treatment of Spartan woman as a positive? Sure Spartan women had it easy compared to a lot of cultures at the time. But women who were considered Spartan made up a tiny fraction of the female population of Sparta . And if you lived in Sparta and weren't born of that rarefied crowd, guess what your lot in life was actually worse than pretty much anywhere else.
y'all acting like women deserve rights? 😎😤😂
Most likely if you lived in sparta you'd be a slave
The only reason this is true is because the women had to run the estates. The actual treatment of women was very bad as well. Do you know how Spartans got married? Well the man had to kidnap the women and get her to his house and she was his. Does this sound good to you?
When in other cultures was just a toy
It’s the Ancient Greek version of bloods vs. crips
I picked Athens because they were blue, that’s it
Ι was reading a book about the battle of sphaktiria for a month... and you just spoiled the end in a few seconds.... never thought that history could be spoiled. Wow thanks XD
Uh...Athen's is more like the rich brat that thinks he's hot stuff and shoves their nose in EVERYONE's business, while Sparta is like his older brother who only bullies the 6 people who sit nearby him and wishes for his brother to NOT cause problems.
Also, expansion was the LAST thing on Sparta's mind. They had a caste of slaves called "Helots" (supposedly killing one was required to be a full Spartan), and they were CONSTANTLY scared these helots would revolt, so at some point they stopped effectively all forms of expansion.
Except their colonies. But that was back when people actually DIDN'T live in most places.
Congratulations ! You did your history homework! Now all we need is the other thousand people...
I was just talking about this I'm my ancient western civilization class
As someone who covered this time period in my Ancient History class, I 100% agree. Athens just got too confident and the general citizens went a bit crazy with the whole 'Radical Democracy' thing and made some very dumb decisions that screwed them over.
Lets not forget all the child killing which is what the main character basically goes thru. Not feeling the love but the game looks like fun.
But he thicc
Plus they rejected you when you were a boy and then you return who knows how many years later and become like the best soldier in their ranks , that's badass
*or a girl....not wholly historically accurate but I still like the idea
What even more badass is to come back and decimate their whole army
@@canadianwifi2903 true
when I’m watching this I’ve already Ed through a good portion of the game and this is pretty accurate
I love that the choice doesn’t even come up you just kind of help both sides and have your own little side quest
They trained in hunting, fighting, pain tolerance, and, most importantly, *singing*
Music always welcome on battle field =))))
Dance off bro
THIS IS SPARTAA!!!!!!!
Amarican idol but it's the pelopenision war.
*WHzy
PELOPENISIAN WAR
shows picture of alexander the great...
Jameson Orwellian misinformation 😂😂😂
Yeah it was a picture of the battlefield between Macedon and Persia xD
Blame Jason.
In context alexander conquered all the greek city states (exept sparta) and everything until today's india so bringing him up makes sense.. in the context he brought him up in
Yeah when I saw king Darius next to the words Peloponnesesian war I kinda had an OCD seizure XD
This video just reminded me of how beautiful this game can look at certain moments
One thing that I specifically like about matpat is how quickly he does his sponsors
I usually love MattPat’s theories, but this one feels a little under-researched. I’ve studied the Peloponnesian War before, and this seems WAY too simplified. I know he can’t into every last detail in a 10 minute video, but Athens wasn’t just a city of thinkers - that’s just what they’re famous for because that’s what’s still relevant today.
"If" i buy the game
savage...
Lmfao
lol
Captain Deadpool A internet troll at it purest lol
This, the game theory and food theory intros will never get old
this guy is so much better at history than me
THIS. IS. GAME THEORY!!!!
Ever notice how mat never does a Ubisoft theory unless he's paid to.
and it's not even a theory, it's just a 13minutes long advertisement with some history facts.
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Pretty off the mark history facts at that.
But like, why would you turn down money, especially from a huge company?
Kathrine321 a lot of people just wished he put a lot more details in these videos (like in general), like the older AC videos.
Then again at this point, few years into making this content and practically covering most Major theories and Major games, I wouldn't blame him if he couldn't find a better topic due to time constraint/demand.
But personally I'd have one Game Theory or Film Theory every 7-9 days and be guaranteed that everything is Muah Wanbyeok-hada amazing.
Ever notice if you don’t have anything nice to say then don’t say it? Jk. I understand what you are saying but, why would you turn down money from a big gaming company??? No Hate Just saiyin
I played for 3 hours and still I have not gotten a choice. Is there more time needed or is this exaggerated?
This video is entirely inaccurate and was only made for money lol. There's no "official" choice on who you have to side with, but there are optional side missions that will determine who controls a territory. They don't have any lasting effect on the story or gameplay though
@@ianfairchild8734 this video was made literally before the game came out, it said so in the beginning of this video
Theres a choice in the first 10 seconds
@@ianfairchild8734 yeah. I got further in the game and understand that noe
Ian Fairchild it's not inaccurate to advise choices in a choice-based game, he's just explaining it from a logical lifelike standpoint instead of 'Me mercenary. Me love money. Help rich guy, get money'
Sparta, the sires of the most badass power move in history. “If”
I started the game 2 days ago and I really find it hilarious that when you check the difficulty of both sides you see that if you fight with the athens against Sparta its "hard" but if you side with the spartains its "easy" lmao
Lol
I’m joining the Spartans because of the whole geometry thing
Revrse2003 join the athenians because the Spartans die out anyway
If you hate the Athenians for geometry, you’re gonna hate the Sicilian Greeks and Alexandrian Greeks for calculus,
and video games, for using it
Also get ready to take it up the butt, Spartans are known for being very gay.
No u
Sorry I had to
I am Greek so i finally broke my record , I UNDERSTOOD ALL THE REFERENCES !!!
This came out one day before my birthday! This would have been a good present
NICE
4:42 pictures that will make you say, "That's not The Peloponnesian War; That's King Darius the Third losing an empire!"
why would they use that there lol
Considering the rest of his "research" in this episode, I'm not surprised he made that mistake.
Congrats, MatPat. Sponsored by ANOTHER big company. Well done. Now we just have to get DIET Coke to sponsor you...
And yay, I'm early.
(There, I fixed it. Happy?)
Diet, you mean. None of that blasphemous sugar ingested into my system.
FoundGallifreyFirst he meant coke the company which Diet Coke falls under
He's been sponsored by ubisoft before. I believe it was the far cry primal episode.
He was also sponsored by EA for the Battlefront 2 video, but he turned the deal down because EA sucks donkey balls.
pretty sure matpat has been sponsored by ubisoft multiple times before for example For honor, Rainbow, Watch dogs and far cry primal
The ancient world is my favourite place to hang out in.
I know more about ancient history than I do about current history.
Sparta didnt take out athens' food supplies, that would be a plague that infected the food and rampaged through athens.
I believe some things are being left out of the video, whether by time constraints or you just didn't think it was important. And I want to say what was missing because it will be annoying to me later on.
Spartans were not stupid. The training put into a spartan soldier was not only physical, but also mental. They studied poetry and warfare as much as they exercised.
Athenian democracy wasn't always the best when it came to thinking. I can imagine people saying that I am wrong, but I have the perfect historical example, Alcibiades. Alcibiades was an Athenian democrat who was so charming he convince the entire assembly to, instead of helping an ally on the island of Sicily, to invade the rest of the island. And also convinced them to expand their already massive fleet of ships to a more massive degree. While he was one of three guys in charge, Alcibiades somehow roped his way out of the eventually doomed force, who were killed to a man. Alcibiades came back after a few years to Athens and managed to kill the democracy and replace it with an oligarchy.
A democracy can be fooled by one guy who was too good at sweet talk.
Whew, that's a lot of typing for a video on the internet.
Jesse Goodfellow yeah lol. It’s weird when you spend like 10 minutes writing what you feel like is a good comment, only to come back and see it takes like 10 seconds to read
Totally, it took me two minutes to write this and two seconds to read.
also women in Sparta could own land unlike in Athens
"A democracy can be fooled by one guy who was too good at sweet talk..."
-Why does that sound familiar? Also, SPARTA!
Ah, Alcibiades. Antiquity's foremost crazed supervillain.
SoRrY mAtPat the best way to win a war is nuClear weapoNs
atom bomb baby
Logan King, is this a clue?
Oh, the Gandhi Theory 😎
It's also the best way to lose one.
You mean the best way to get flattened by conventional weapons?
Love your voice. This was super fascinating ❤
how did my favorite youtuber end up talking about my favorite games
"IF" That is so badass it gives me goosebumps.
What? literally anyone could do that if they can stand up after a punch.
Which i think is everyone.
Matt by the time Alexander inherited his fathers empire, Sparta wasn’t anywhere near as strong as they used to be. They win the Peloponnesian war, but the the oligarchs they place in charge of Athens and the general abusive power they hold over Greece doesn’t hold up well and eventually Philip II of Macedon just kind of walks over and destroyed them without much trouble, looking at it retrospectively. He even destroys the Sacred band of Thebes. By this time Sparta has already lost a significant number of their citizen soldiers, and the lands in Lacedameon they held as slave states had successfully rebelled, leaving Sparta without ample resources to keep up their previous lifestyle. That lifestyle entailed strict marriage between citizen men and Spartan women, infanticide if they kids they produced were “no good”, and strict training regimes. Because their numbers were reduced, they had to allow non-spartan citizens to join the military, which (while this view could be rather ethnocentric in favor of Spartans) diluted the previously heavily regulated spartan gene pool. Sparta never recovers after Philip takes over. Alexander didn’t even spare them a glance when they attempted to rebel when he came to power. And I don’t agree that they are ultimately the more “just” side of the war.
Yeah, Athens has a lot of shady dealings, but they also united (most) of Greece. Yeah, they held the treasury and power, yeah they kind of brought up their victory against the Persians a lot (which you totally forgot to mention, that’s actually really important), and yeah they held their power like a leash on the other polies. But the Peloponnesian war resulted in a huge loss of Greek lives, resulted in political and military weakening of Athens (because Spartans were horrible at politics in comparison) and led to the deaths of thousands of Athenians under the tyrannical rule of Spartan oligarchs. P.S , Spartans also routinely committed genocide against their slaves in a systematic culling practiced by young Spartans who completed their trainig. They did this every year for as long as they had Helot territories, and they were encouraged to literally kill as many as possible. The Spartans are actually really horrible people.
But anyway, Once Philip came through, they stood no chance. Just look to the Thebans to see how bad it was.
Love ya Matpat, but I can’t forgive the Spartans for that. They headed their conflict as the side who fought for freedom against Athens (literally, that’s what they said), but they ended up becoming absolute tyrants. Plus, a lot of history surrounding Sparta is really romanticized. I’d encourage you to look at more recent research. They weren’t really that awesome. Plus their eventual fall under the rule of Nabis of Sparta is kind of pathetic.
when i pressed that more button i wasn't expecting a full history lesson geez.
WOW.... (I don’t need to read anything to know you know your stuff!)
Thank you
Very informative. I love this era of History and didnt know a lot of that. You sir are a gentleman and a scholar.
Athens committed a genocide in the war. Read the Melian Dialogue.
the most satisfying thing to listen to is the game theorists intro
Let’s hope mat like Norse mythology as much as Greek mythology because that’s what Assassin’s Creed Valhalla is about.