MatPat: "YOU doomed the world of Subnautica, so recklessly crashing down onto the planet. Shame on you!" Anyone who actually played the game: "Well maybe I wouldn't have crashed down onto this planet if our ship wasn't SHOT OUT OF ORBIT!"
That, and the fact that there's no human savior complex thing going on...the game makes it pretty clear that the only reason you are able to solve the disease is because 90% of the work was done for you, and you just have a little more empathy for...the..end bit...we'll say, just in case anyone doesn't want real spoilers... Also for the trash that pretty much everything is synthesized to order...I could be remembering incorrectly but didn't the vending machines even actually just basically digistruct everything Star Trek replicator style?
And maybe I wouldn't have crashed the ship if I were actually the pilot. Riley Robinson had 0 input over the ship's course or voyage, he was just the only one lucky enough to not die
Matpat: the problem that the game doesn't address Literally the game: "the aurora drive core will have devastating effects on the ecosystem if not contained within 24 hours"
Well, when I remember correrly it was their fault in two ways. First, they started containment (yes that big turret). Second, they tried to rush the grow of Sea Emperor's babies. And I will never forget they called us primitive creatures. At least we don't steal someone elses DNA to improve ourselves.
The water bottles in subnautica are actually not plastic. You only need a bladderfish to make a water bottle, meaning that the bottles are fully biodegradable.
@@Dino_5500 Given how Corporate works, and the fact that fabricators 3D print *molecules*, the bottles most likely aren't plastics. It would be easier and quicker to make them out of pure cellulose.
@@Dino_5500 even if they were they were released in too small a quantity to have any major impact on the planet as such mat pat has made a fearmongering video
"You killed the planet" Me, systematically hunting down leviathans and punching them to death with a big stompy robot: No, I conquered it. There's only room on this world for one apex predator.
yeah i nned to start doing that, i need to get to losst river but have almost lost my cyclopse 3 times, i am going to make a new seamoth just for killing liviathons
@@FishFactInc. When where realistic you have to think about the Distance of the back of Aurora to the save shallows and the stalker biom is not that faaar, and there is living all Kind of stuff😂 so this Theory is trash if you think about below zero where its pretty clear to see that theres nothing dead...
Erm, actually the crash zone was originally a part of the safe shallows and reaper leviathans are only over there because they are attracted to how much noise the crash made.
Matpat, a couple of minor things about the aurora. The crash size was probably affected by a few things not stated in the episode. The captain's log makes it clear that he was still steering the ship when it went down with the intent on trying to minimize damage to the ship. He knew it needed to remain intact for a rescue to be possible. This, combined with the fact that the game takes place on the top of an inactive volcano instead of the ocean bottom, could account for why the damage was as small as it was. The aurora might have hit water first and then hit ground after slowing down.
Also, the crash was caused by the Cannon enforcing the quarantine and the filtered water is made of only a bladderfish, so it's safe to say that the containers are organic and biodegradable
The creatures in Subnautica are already used to (small amounts of) radiation. Here’s my proof: in most deeper biomes you can find radioactive crystals exposed underwater. The PDA talks about the radiation, and when you pick them up you can hear a Geiger counter make a radioactive sound. Reapers and Sandsharks thrive close enough to the Aurora even right after the explosion where the effects would be highly fatal for us without the proper equipment. Even jellyrays which have barely any protection behave normally in high doses of radiation. We might have killed a lot of the wildlife, but certainly not most of it.
“The radiation probably killed the animals in the vicinity immediately” Reapers, actively travelling en mass to the irradiated zone: *I have no such weaknesses*
@@mememan1546 Perhaps since they are only found places near electricity and radiation(The aurora, the dunes with it's alien things, and the mountains with the alien base) they were created by the Pre-cursors to suck up radiation from the Degasi ship's crash. They would absorb the radiation, but in living with so much of it, went blind from radiation and developed echolocation to help with the murky junk filled waters. They eventually escaped and repopulated, creating the ones we know now, and when the Aurora crashed three went from the dunes(This is why the dunes has the least) and started feasting.
Hello Matpat, excuse my possibly clunky use of the english language. I was really excited about a Subnautica theory because of the incredible lore this beautiful game has to offer. This however turned out to be more of a TeamSeas ad then a theory. Believe me when I say, I'm a big fan of your theories in general, but this time just a pinch of actual research lets it fall apart. Please see the following evidence: The Impact of the craft being catastrophic: Logs you can find in the game (e.g. Lifepod 19 Second Officer Keen's Voicelog) confirm that the captain of the Aurora took over manual control and tried to execute a controlled descent of the ship after the midair/orbital incident. As the Aurora was trying to use the planet for a swing-by-maneuver it's trajectory in relation to the surface would have already been flat and due to its speed the craft would be able to hold this flat approach for a while. This would lead to the Aurora hitting the planet's surface at a much more controlled angle and potentially lower speed in the end compared to a "falling out of the sky" scenario, and therefore much less damage to the geology around the crash site. The waste of the Aurora being a danger to the ecosystem: While there certainly will be an impact of some items on that ship, it should be argued that a civilization this advanced will not rely on plastic as the material of their products. The fabricator (one of the game's crafting stations), where you craft the basic versions of the drinkable water items in the game, materializes them, bottle and all, from midair using some magical 3D printing laser synthesizing. Even if the bottle was made from polymer (I personally think they are made from metal, looking at the model, or rather from some sort of completely organic material as you can craft a water bottle using a fish as input material only), trash would not be an issue. A good indicator for this is the buildable trash can in the game. Its description says that it "Permanently deconstruct[s] unwanted items and safely release[s] their constituent atoms into the atmosphere." The same can be said for the similar functioning "Nuclear Waste Disposal" which also permanently deletes Nuclear Waste from existence. This technology exists and Below Zero shows there to be an ongoing human presence on the planet, so accumulating waste shouldn't be a thing. The radiation (could also insert dissolved chemicals) being a danger to the wildlife of 4546B: As it has been said, the radiation as a result of the leaking drive core would dissipate after a while, should the breaches be sealed. So there is a finite amount of radioactive material/radiation actually finding its way into the environment, that means it will start to be diluted by the ocean. The map we are playing on in Subnautica is called The Crater and is about 2x2km in size according to the data bank entry (Fun Fact: The actual size of the map is almost double that) with the rest of the planet (excluding Sector Zero) being an ecological deadzone with only microscopic and leviathan life. That would mean that the ocean currents would transport the majority of the radioactive material out of this small inhabited crater's area in no time. Your example of the radioactive material from the Fukushima disaster making it all the way to Canada in a really short timespan proves my point. The radiation spreads out, therefore gets weaker and as there is no source for more unnatural radiation to come from anymore, the affected volume of the medium (the water) will be moved and spare the crater. I sure hope we'll get a Subnautica episode about the extensive lore in the future. But hey, that's just a theory. A comment-section theory :)
thank god someone who played the game, matpat although is really a great theorist, he never addresses these points or seems to make himself at the least like he played it.
Hi! As someone who’s played this game dozens of times, I have a *few* things to say about this theory: While the area surrounding the crash site doesn’t seem as damaged as it should be, the surface is only a small part of this game. A lot of this game, if not most, takes place *below* the ocean floor in underwater caves. As for the batteries, most of the batteries found in this game are still sealed in Alterra containers when found. Even if the batteries were exposed, and their copper contents spilling into the ocean, copper is already a naturally occurring recourse on this planet’s ocean floor surface. Also, this theory says that tens of thousands of wreckage are unaccounted for because there would be a lot more debris than just the metal scraps, but look not further than the *entire thruster* that detached from the Aurora during its crash, or in space orbiting the planet seen as the Neptune 01 rocket leaves the planet. And even if the negative effects of the Aurora’s crash exceeded the map we are given to explore during the game, the game takes place on a thermal crater risen above the ocean floor. The ocean surrounding the crash site is just an empty abyss as seen by the sheer drop off at the edge of the map. One final note is that the *entire* planet was doomed to the Kharaa bacterium long before the Aurora’s crash, and while the Aurora killed a significant amount of flora and fauna living on the thermal crater, the player onboard cured the planet of the deadly Kharaa and, as we see in Below Zero, it seems to have worked given the only Kharaa we see in the sequel is on a frozen leviathan. Sorry, not to be “that guy,” but I feel very passionately about this game and its story :) I understand that the cause for this theory is greater than just a video game and it’s pretty cool you guys are raising money to clean our non-fictional oceans!
Important point (spoiler if anyone cares): blame the “Architects”. The Aurora was shot down, by an automated weapon. Another important point is time. Time is compressed for gameplay reasons. After all when the Sunbeam attempts to Mount their rescue - they announce they’re more than a week away. It doesn’t take a week before they show. & of course Sunbeam is also shot down, as was the Degassi years earlier. Humans didn’t doom that planet. Oh and one more important thing you seem to have missed; the Aurora’s captain stayed aboard to attempt a controlled crash landing. This is why the damage doesn’t match what you claimed would wipe out the whole zone. She didn’t simply auger in at terminal velocity.
Inb4 “They quarantined the planet with the ship battery” Can’t they have just adjusted the targeting range at the atmosphere instead of ships traveling near their planet?
@@Dedelblute3 C5 crash at Bagram. th-cam.com/video/5fpxm0D46iQ/w-d-xo.html Yes, Sully was able to make a controlled landing in the Hudson. & he was lucky to have made it. But that’s exactly my point. The Aurora was “set down” also.
The captain goes down with his ship in order to make sure that it lands in one piece, and before the explosion the aurora is clearly in one piece. But Mat doesn't even acknowledge this, he acts as if the ship had been thrown at the planet instead of landing on it. Everything is downhill from there.
MatPat: "At last! I have found the Scroll of Truth!" Scroll of Truth: "Subnautica's in-game lore proves that the Aurora's crash will not cause the death of the planet." MatPat: [yeets the Scroll] "Nyehh!!!"
Matt... As someone who actually played the game, I can say that so much of this was wrong. - Aurora was shot down by the Architect quarantine laser platform and the captain still had some control of the ship, slowing it down enough to not hit as hard - all crafted things in the game were made specifically out of the surrounding flora/fauna, leaving it to be fully biodegradable - batteries and the reactor core were all well contained enough to not leak as much as you said - nutrient blocks had no packaging whatsoever, and Alterra is kinda bad when it comes to treating its employees so not as many nutrient blocks were made - the Kharaa virus was cured by the player, making the second game possible - the alien creatures living there already may have been immune to the radiation poisoning, like the Reaper Leviathans swimming around and the Biters + Crabs waltzing and swimming within
@@cheesy7805 the G.U.N isn't needed anymore by the you disable it because the cure has been realised getting rid of the infection you know the whole point of the G.U.N being online Also fcking space poachers everything is controlled by like 8 companies who want 4546B for research
While I appreciate Matt's dedication to getting the facts, his information with regards to nuclear power and reactors is a bit off. I've been working in the nuclear power field for nearly a decade and its miscommunicated information like this that scares people. With out context of scale talking about radiation means very little. Explaining the values compared to chest x-rays, standard airplane flights or even bananas (yes they are radioactive) helps put things into context. Additionally the safety features in reactors are typically very well engineered and in the community we study what went wrong at both Fukushima and Chernobyl to ensure disasters like that never happen again. Matt in the future it would be nice to see you do a collaboration with somebody from the nuclear power field to explain the differences from game to reality. A lot of peoples only knowledge of nuclear power comes from movies or games, which often depict it as bad. No technology is inherently good or bad, its about who we use it.
For example, sailors on board nuclear missile subs (meaning they are powered by a nuclear reactor, as are all active duty submarines in the US Navy) actually received less overall radiation exposure per year then your average person does due to spedning about half the year under water and thus not exposed to sunlight. Meaning living in a small metal tube with a nuclear reactor going 24/7 results in less radiation exposure then just taking a stroll outside on a sunny day.
I was thinking that too. I had to write a report on multiple different occasions about which type of energy system I think would be best for the future of the planet, and it’s always been nuclear power. Of course, my ideal is nuclear fission, but that’s currently improbable. But out of all of them, nuclear has always been the most productive, currently powering like 70% France maybe I think fact check that, the most safe if handled appropriately and legally(Chernobyl was a massive fuckup of so many rules and regulations by Russia and what not to do), and has the most likely future in powering the earth. I’m sorry green people, but wind, solar, geothermal, etc just won’t power the earths current energy need, even together. And I’m sorry fossil people, but the earth can’t keep using it not only because it’s damaging to animals and people, but because it’s not renewable and we’re running out. Plus, green energy also damages the environment, we just don’t talk about it. Nuclear does by far, from my research, which is probably minuscule compared others, the least damage to the environment when handled properly.
Because it is futuristic technology it was most likely a fusion reactor. Or even better, if humans figured out a way to produce large amounts of antimatter efficiently, antimatter is the most efficient fuel possible (100% of the energy is released in antimatter-matter collisions) and if the storage system for the antimatter was even slightly damaged and even an extremely small amount of antimatter collided with regular matter it would cause a massive explosion of radiation. Also that would explain why the computer calls it a "quantum explosion".
I've been telling this for years to everyone I know that's scared of nuclear power (imo the best powersource we have atm): The likelihood of a nuclear reactor going full meltdown like chernobyl or Fukushima is virtually 0, Especially since then they have absolutely outdone themselves in terms of safety measures and security features. And addressing the topic of nuclear waste, I'm pretty sure that scientists around the globe are working on 2 new types of reactors: one where you can re-use spent fission material until it becomes something like the sun has with iron OR a thorium reactor, which would just produce a side product that we can use for construction etc. I'm no expert on nuclear power or reactors, I'm just a student doing his A-levels. If I said anything incorrect, please do educate me.
@@scp-wasp3463 bro the wiki would've given him far more than enough, this man looked at the game for 5 seconds and thought he could make an accurate theory on it. (Love ya Mat but this theory was ridiculous, a bunch of key lore points were tossed aside just for an advertisement.)
Actually Alterra has very advanced trash cans that completely breaks down waste to atoms and safely releases it into the atmosphere, so waste is a non problem if the aurora safely landed
Agreed. And I’m guessing the same technology on the ship probably reprocesses those waste atoms. The ship likely has a large chunk of hydrocarbons that act as a reservoir to create plastics and food on demand, before disposal returns them to the source. No need to keep a large number of individual items around, and energy is the primary consumable. Not too dissimilar in concept to the Sabatier system used on the ISS now, but more advanced.
I like how Matpat sometimes makes really in-depth theories about games while proving that he either didn't play the game or didn't pay any attention to the lore these kinds of things don't happen often but when they do it's the most entertaining thing on earth
He says "we" killed the planet whenever "we" were shot down by the Precursors. If anything, it's their fault for shooting us down and spreading this raditation. We had no clue about what would be on the planet, and we thought that the gravity sling manuver would work. Whoopsie do, it didn't and the Precursors shot us down. It's ironic that he brings up Enzyme 42 but doesn't pay attention to the huge factor of the Q.E.P.
Overall you've made some very compelling arguments, but I feel I have to point out two potential oversights. Most glaring is that in the audio and text logs you can find scattered around the game, it is revealed that the captain of the ship stayed on board until the very end to make a controlled decent. While not a proper landing, I feel it lends some credence as to why the crash zone is as small as it is. Perhaps it wasn't a proper or gentle landing, but neither was it a full force crash from orbital height. Coupled with a few other theories I've seen, the site of the crash may not have actually been shallow water. There may have been some small degree of dry land, which would explain why the terrain goes so far up to meet the ship nearly all the way around, even poking above the water for a sizable area around the shull of the Aurora. Secondly, with the exception of the truly absurd number of water bottles required to survive, you don't encounter much actual plastic. There may even be reason to suggest the water bottles might not even be plastic as we understand it today. In some cases, they almost resemble more of a metallic container. Though I feel a lot was overlooked in the creation of the game on that point, as no materials are actually required to create the container the water goes into. The bottle just seems to materialize out of nothing during the crafting process. Coupled with that, is the food seen on the ship and various cargo containers scattered throughout the environment. Most are not shown to have any individual containment or packaging of any kind (which is only stranger considering most are found stuffed into cargo boxes). Given the technological level portrayed, it's unlikely that food was brought pre-prepared from another world. And although the ingredients aren't shown or explained, the "Nutrient Block" in my opinion most closely resembles something akin to pemmican. A dry, often bready and nutrient right brick with a frankly mind-boggling shelf life that is often made mainly by survivalists today, and historically in many parts of the world. The logical conclusion is that given how technology has taken over, no one actually makes or stores these food bricks, but instead has them crafted at various and potentially specialized fabricators on the main ship (before the crash). As they can not be made by the player, either they were destroyed in the crash, or remain locked away into areas of the ship that could not be reached due to structural damage (or most likely, something simply overlooked in game development).
Matpat: you caused the death of this planet. The character who found the cure and stopped more leakage of radiation from the Aurora: am i a joke to you?
"The Aurora's drive core will cause devastating damage to the planet's ecosystem if not contained in the next 24 hours" _player does this._ _Planet not dead._
This is the same PDA that kept track of how much Alterra property you "borrowed" and any precious minerals you acquired to launch you into debt for the rest of your life the minute you are rescued.
It still exploded, which is why you’re able to enter the Aurora in the first place. It would’ve gotten worse had the player not stopped it, shown by the radiation field increasing over time, but the initial explosion did a good amount of damage, as well as the amount of time it took for the player to fix the drive core
@@anahera6859 the planet was already via the disease, that's why it was quarantined you saved the planet when you helped the giant leviathan lady hatch her eggs I Havnt completed below zero yet
@@hoaxgamingtrap You’re absolutely right (and neither have I btw), however this specific comment was talking about how the radiation damage to the nearby ecosystem is negated by the player fixing the drive core, when realistically, the initial explosion that let the player into the aurora already let out a ton of radiation.
@Racing Girl's 😘🤤 buddy I don’t think it’s private if your talking about your fun time in a public TH-cam reply section. P.S There’s a reason why PH exist IDIOT GO POST THERE.
@@imsad3630 “humans are destroying everything and have a saviour complex on subnautica!” The players, who were shot down unwillingly, who have the most environmentally clean materials available, and who save the planet from complete extinction.
Matpat just coming here to say that if you listen to the lifepod 19 second officer keen's voicelog the captain of the aurora says that he is attempting a controlled decent the captain sacrificed himself to make a controlled decent and Matpat gave him no credit
@@cerealbeforemilk3566 yes and they are near godly beings with insane technology and godlike bodies and if you havent already then go see what they looked like cuz it was revealed in below zero
@@infernoxus1432 I have been meaning to play bellow zero ever since, Subnautica was such an impactful game for me. So I naturally tend to avoid spoilers, and was convinced the ancient aliens were called precursors and not architects
Not saying the crash was harmless but the alternative was essentially mass extinction, i believe a very painful 100% lethality rate. So i would say our presence had a net positive.
I would like to point out that the water bottles in Subnautica are Biodegradable, because it states that the bottles are made out of organic matter (aka the bladderfish skin). how else do you think the bottle itself is made when you only give it a fish?
I’m just gonna be honest, this theory was disappointing compared to the rest. As someone who loves subnautica as a game I’m sad that game theory didn’t do it justice.
It wasn't even a theory. It was a rant blaming the Aurora for all manner of things that it isn't and blaming the players for it crashing. He is comparing an oil tanker sinking and a nuclear spaceship being shot down and having a controlled fall as the captain kept steering. The water bottles are also clearly metal. They don't float around. The player repairs the drive core and cures the Khaara bacteria. His misinformed episode is fear mongering and going off what he thought should have happened. He doesn't know the state of Auroras engines during the fall. They could have been off. He doesn't mention it was will being steered either. This one is a shame to the channel because its not well informed or even a theory
This was just a woke PSA telling common folk to stop littering. Problem is, It's the government that is dumping the vast majority of the garbage into the ocean. This video had no other purpose but to push the "climate crisis" agenda. nothing more
It was kinda disappointing.. I though he'd be diving more deeper with subnautica's lore... I almost seemed like he did this for the sponsors he have... (don't get me wrong its a noble thing to do but... kinda misplaced here. Also fun fact: my uncle is a captain and he does ocean cleanup in SEA despite the territorial dispute)
When he started talking about radiation the first thing that I thought was “well, the reapers seem to be doing pretty good, even though they’re RIGHT NEXT TO THE SHIP”
And bonesharks/sand sharks and misc safe shallows/kelp forest fish living right next to the crash zone in the radioactive area (which is larger than the crash zone biome)
there is a theory that the aurora crashed right into reaper territory and they just learned to fend off radiation or are immune to it because of biological evolution
Honestly dropped the ball on researching here, while the video itself has a high as ever production quality, using models of plastic waste when there are little to none platics used in the game is just odd, khara has and would have had longer lasting effects on the planet wiping out life as we know it, not even mentioning the ecological dedzone when talking about the distance of the radiation or debris, or the adaptation that the aguatic life had already shown around existing crashes thriving in previous crash sites, or heck the giant gun that shot your ship out of orbit. Dissapointined is the lack of quality research here.
I'm glad you mentioned the instigating incident. It isn't humans that caused the crash, it was a giant fricking laser gun from the Archetects that shot it down.
@@PhillyCh3zSt3ak It is pretty lame how aggressive some of his titles are, like they're often just "It's your fault [insert tragedy in a game] happened!"
It is lowkey annoying, especially how in this case he's wrong.. I saw a comment here from Erich Degurechaff that I agree with: "You KILLED..." I didn't kill nothing. The player wasnt the pilot and the Architects that created the weapon that shoot the Aurora, how could any human know about it?"
It kinda reminds me of the guy who made a video complaining about how "fake" the evolution of the wildlife was, and about 1/4th of the way through it was clear he either didn't play the game or didn't touch his PDA entries
I like how the comment section is split into two groups. 1 group disproving Mats theory on the subject of doing more harm than good considering subnauticas world seems far more advance than us. The 2nd half is PTSD victims of the game saying "yeah I killed the planet what about it?"
@@bat6684 A theory that can be debunked by someone like me who has never played the game and only seen a couple videos about it is not a "theory", it's talking bs.
Just a quick edit: Matt, I'm sure no one means to bash your message (hopefully at least), but there were a few key details missing in your theory. that being said, I think another game that could also serve to help the message is Raft Survival as it's a little closer to home. Keep up the good work, your episodes are always really gripping to watch! Lore-wise it would actually be incorrect to say that it's the human's fault for causing the pollution in the first place. *SPOILER WARNING, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED OF THE SPOILER* The crash was caused by the architect's global defense system. So while yes the human's brought the trash and other pollutants to 4546b, it was by no means their fault, per say. That being said, you forgot to mention the other ship that gets shot down, if you don't disable the global defense system in time, and all the pollutants that get brought along with it.
(a couple of things) In the game, in order to actually leave the planet, you need to repair the drive core, which means no more radiation. Even if the bottles are plastic, they're stuck at the bottom of the ocean by the containers, as none are floating around, and only a human can open the containers. There is no life around the Aroura's crash site to feed on the plastic, as rabbit tails are veggie-eaters, and the reaper is so large that it would likely ignore the tiny bottles. A reaper is by the tail end of the crash site, meaning that it is highly likely that the Aurora is completely fine to be around, even with all the negative effects. There are many underground areas that would not feel the affects of sediment displacement, radiation, or pollution. If the destruction from the Aurora is so bad, then why isn't all life extinct from the Degasi, seeing as it had ample time to kill anything around it, but didn't and is flourishing with sealife. If the destruction from the Aurora is so bad, then why is there life hanging around the remains of Sunbeam, seeing as it got the BFG treatment? Even if all life on the crater is killed, life on 4546b will go on, by simple notion that the entire game takes place on what's basically a flooded continent surrounded by 'the void', allowing for life at the equator, void life, and whatever other areas there could be like the crater to continue on outside this chernobyl-like area of inhospitability. (I'll see if I can add more in edits, but this is what I got rn, so enjoy)
@@TheEmeraldPixel The sad truth of the game is, you don't actually need to fix the drive core. The only thing that is mandatory from the Aurora is the Neptune Rocket. Fixing the drive core merely makes the game more convenient, and is actually not needed to win the game. Speaking of which, perhaps the reason that the radiation doesn't go that far is because the materials they use for power is MUCH shorter than the thing that MatPat mentioned?
@@TheEmeraldPixel You know, I totally forgot about the Degasi crash. And speaking of other crashes, you could even bring up the other crashed ships from Below Zero. If I remember correctly, they've been there even longer than the Degasi ship has and landed in similar locations as the Aurora and life is still flourishing around it. This one isn't even a spoiler either because the devs posted about it when they added it.
@@zachplaysallday-zpad5731i am wheezing reading these comments. Lil bro doesnt know A that we arent responsible for the crash B we stopped radiation a whole asz desiese and that the creatures of Subnautica arent affected by radiation or that the crator or Subnautica map is such a small percentage of the planet like did bro do his research. I know my spelling and grammar is horrible😭
So, I enjoy subnautica and I'll correct a couple of points. The map is actually in the middle of an inactive volcano that forms a bowl. The reason there's such a massive dead zone around the map has more to do with the death of certain leviathans well before the player's and not because of the crash or radiation. Also, they hint that where the Aurora crashes was actually originally above water and gets leveled as a result of the crash, so the damage to ocean life is lessened. Also, as far as radiation is concerned, water is a good shield. That's not to say there will be no impact, but probably not that much and once it's gone, it's gone, unlike oil. And as far as the plastics are concerned, that's not great, but it's the least of that ocean's problems.
All good, minus the part about radiation going away easier than oil. Look up how absurdly long it takes for typical radiation leaks to fade away, how far their effects can pass from one generation to the next, and the severity of those genetic defects. The planet would likely survive, but the damage would be far, FAR greater than how its depicted in-game.
You forgot to mention the only reason why there was so much trash was because the quarantine blaster shot both the aurora and the degassi ship, forcing them to crash land and not just land. The architects caused the infection to go world wide because they stole a sea dragon egg, and underestimated its motherly powers. Causing all the rest to go extinct. So it’s their fault not ours :)
Exactly. Can't blame humanity for this one. Blame the Architects that used the planet as a petri dish (the disease isn't even native to the planet), and set up an orbital cannon that doesn't even warn approaching ships that the planet is quarantined (and given hints in game, and especially the sequel the Architects were absolutely capable of communicating) before blasting them out of the sky.
Not only did we get shot down but were we even trying to land on the planet to begin with? It's been awhile since I last played but I was under the impression we were passing by and the laser shot us because we got too close to the planet.
@@eviljoshy3402 nah the aurora was trying to land on the planet, their alternate mission was to look for the other ship that mysteriously disappeared on the planet too
@@eviljoshy3402 We had a side mission to look for the missing in action Degasi which was *shot down by the Architects* without warning by passing over and scanning that planet without landing unless we found something. Then we got *shot down without warning by the Architects*. Then the Sunbeam picked up our distress signal and came to help.... only to be *shot down without warning... by the Architects*... I'm seeing a pattern here.
@@sonichegehodge5778 If I undestand the lore right, the Aurora was going to gravity swing around the planet while secretly dropping the search team onto the planet from orbit. I don't think the Aurora intended to actually land. Remember the Sunbeam crew saying they've never parked a rig that big on a rock that small? Well, the Sunbeam is a lot smaller than the Aurora. I don't think the Aurora is even capable of landing on planets.
"You KILLED..." I didn't kill nothing. The player wasnt the pilot and the Architects that created the weapon that shoot the Aurora, how could any human know about it?
@Videoms I wouldn't say noble, since they were only trying to cure the bacteria because it almost killed them all, and they found the bacteria when they were exploring and probably exploiting the resources of other planets
@@nigelxd3735 actually, when playing the second game (spoilers) Alan mentioned that the reason why they were looking for a cure was due to the fact that they’re bodies are made up of different species. If it can effect the architects … a galaxy can get infected as well. So I would say it is a noble cause, but of course more story stuff in the second game it is revealed why the research was messed up
You assume that the futuristic ship wouldn't have more food then just packaged powder meals? They literally can make a building in seconds and can probably cook just as easily.
I have to heavily disagree with this it’s not the player’s fault it goes back further than that, you forgot to mention a few things. The Aurora would of never crashed if it wasn’t shot down by the “Quarantine Enforcement Platform” made by the what GameTheory called “The Architects” I’m going to call them the “precursors” because that’s what I’m used to saying. Okay anyways the Aurora never would have stopped by planet 4546B the planet subnautica takes place in if the Degasi spacecraft before was never shot down. The Aurora’s primary mission was to construct phase gates, but it’s second was to search for the survivors of the Degasi years earlier similar to how Sunbeam tries to rescue you in the earlier parts of the game. Similar to Sunbeam and the Aurora the Degasi was shot down by Quarantine Enforcement Playform which was made by the precursors. The precursors made the facility to prevent any incoming and outgoing spacecraft from carrying the Kharaa Bacteria outside the planet. So technically it’s the precursor’s fault not the player’s fault also how would the player be at fault for the ship crashing? Technically the Quarantine Enforcement Platforn never would have been activated if the Kharaa bacteria never escaped from the Disease research facility made by the precursors when it was attacked by a sea dragon leviathan and then collapsed to the sea floor. That might make you think that no, it was that leviathan’s fault, but actually no. The precursors took one of the leviathan’s eggs and then leviathan was trying to get it back and ended up realizing the bacteria, forcing the precursors to activate the Quarantine Enforcement Platform leading to the events seen in the game. Sorry if that was a long one.
I love game theory but mat you really missed with this one. It doesn’t sound like you played the game? I love and support the causes you’re doing but if you wanted to do a video on garbage and the sea then you should’ve done the game Raft, there is literally no trash in this game, no nutrients bars had wrappers, they came in mental boxes or where laying around in the Aurora. No items in the game besides native and natural material in the game can float about (besides metal salvage) also, batteries were ALL inside metal boxes so they couldn’t leak either. The game has Fabricators, a big thing that debunks much of what you said, and how things are made and… fabricated. You mentioned that the Aurora’s crash should have been bigger then it initially was and so was the explosion? In the PDA the Captan of the ship and stayed on and didn’t take a life pod just so that the crash wouldn’t be as bad as you said it was supposed to be. Yes, Aurora Corp is a greedy and evil company and take awful care of there employees but dang, they really were careful with taking care of a ocean planet, one a few Aurora Corp employees have been to before. You take about think game as if it’s taken place during OUR time in the universe, you statement about the waste and nothing on fabricators REALLY makes me think you didn’t play the game. This theory just felt like some cop out video to get out there, just make a quick video and get it out fast, type of video… sounded and felt dishonest or half assed… Again loved the channel and the cause you are doing but this game has so much potential for other “theory’s” really if you wanted one that is relevant to the cause then you should’ve done it on Raft. Also edit: another thing to point out, it wasn’t the players fault you crash landed into the planet, we were shot out. I think the area where the player themselves might have caused a problem is disabling the tower that shot the Aurora out of orbit, making so anything else can go in and out of the planet and carry the disease in and out of it spreading it to somewhere else or other planets. That is unless by that time the Sea Emperors kids haven’t already spread the cure around, killing the diseases completely or mostly
Yes, the Captain stayed on board to make sure the Aurora's crash was minimised as much as possible. He transfers responsibility to Officer Keen, effectively making him de facto captain in his place
I have played this game and I can honestly say that this theory was kind of a swing and a miss in a way, for example: -the ecosystem (proven in the game) is NOT delicate at all. -the ship was shot down by the alien species who ALSO invaded the planet and then tried to save other planets by putting 4546B on lockdown. -the food doesn’t have containers (obvious from the beginning of the game). -the pilot stayed back and guided the ship in order to avoid everything you just said. -there are creatures in the game who are resistant to radiation. -the time this takes place is WAY in the future so most of this may not apply anyways (especially since it’s on an alien planet and it just might not work the same than on Earth. -and finally everything you make in the game is made from material taken straight out of the ocean (and was there before the player except for scrap metal and scan parts) So in other words, I think you should go back and play the whole game, then actually research and not use Earth logic on an alien planet, and try this again. But other than that I do love this channel I just think this one needs a revisit.
Some of the Degasi voice logs hint at Earth society being way more ecologically friendly in game. I doubt plastics and waste would be much of an issue.
in this video, the videogame itself was a pretext to talk about our oceans and marine ecosystems. the message itself is commendable, but you've dragged the game in the mud by using absolutely wrong information about it. this game is coherent and worth playing. Thankfully, plenty of comments have already explained why.
I enjoyed subnatica so much! And I really enjoyed it even if I did just stay in the safe zone because I was terrified, I watched somebody else play it and I loved it it was sad to see it get dragged through the mud like that.
Mattpat was only talking about what realistically would happen if the Subnautica scenario happened in real life, or if it was scientifically accurate. That is the theory. That doesn't mean that Mattpat told the developers that their game has to reflect real life. That's not the case at all.
I feel like Alterra was probably able to find some kind of biodegradable polymer to use as a replacement for plastic. Especially since in real life we’re getting closer basically every day.
Yeah, the water bottles disappear after you eat them, and after the impact you use bladderfish to make water bottles, so chances are you eat the water bottle regardless
@@MSKofAlexandriathe bottles might even be nutritious, cause bladderfish are fully edible, and a bottle only needs a single bladderfish, soooooo. And maybe they turn the bladderfishes skeleton for the bottle, and other things to make it edible
I've seen many people point out many problems with this theory, but as yet I haven't seen anyone point out that the amount of packaging waste for the food is grossly overestimated. Matt is assuming that every single meal the crew eats, everyday, for three years, is packaged, when that would be completely inefficient and impractical. It would be much more likely that the Aurora had gardens onboard where the food was grown and refrigerators where it was stored, either mitigating or completely eliminating the amount of packaging required. Overall, I love the cause your promoting, but the theory used is lacking. And because the theory is lacking, your message means less because it makes it seem like you're just pushing an agenda and not laying out an argument for why, which is off-putting.
Not only that! There are FABRICATORS in this game. Did he even play it? The amount of misunderstood concepts in this video is astounding. The game is science fiction, way into the future. He compares every aspect of it as if it happened today with no knowledge whatsoever of the fictional universe he's speaking of. I mean, I'm all for promoting green initiatives, but it's like he played for 5 minutes and then tried to make everything fit into his script that has nothing to do with the game at all.
What? There's NO WAY that THE one and only Mat "which fictional character would survive the Coronavirus better than your loved one" Pat wouldn't POSSIBLY use a popular worldwide topic to squeeze out some eazy views and revenue!!
This is standard in most Game Theory videos. Since they have to satisfy the youtube mandated production line, they don't have time to do real research and are trapped in the confirmation bias (You will always find evidance to support your hypothesis if you really look for it). These are fun videos but ultimately very harmful due to teaching people the exact reversal of the scientific method. I still love the channel ofc.
Matpat, I love you, but this video was not researched properly, the "tsunami" that you talked about happened in the OG trailer for the game (I think it's canonical, even though you don't see it in the game)
I think matpat forgot the part where a giant gun on the planet shot the ship down and caused us to crash in the first place so it's not entirely our fault
Yeah. The ship crashing was not our fault. It was the ancients who have doomed the planet because they made the gun. Maybe it was a good thing they died. Besides they all think we are interior anyway
Yeaaaaa, it's not our fault at all. Alterra, as we learn, is a shitty company that exploits any and everything for it's resources, but that's not relevant to the occasion. The Aurora just happens to be shot down while passing by a planet on a route not involving it and get shot done by a gun made by an alien race that has done only harm for the planet.
Considering how deep other theories dig, I'm kinda surprised how shallow this one was. From replicators removing the need for most packaging to the fact that the water bottles are made of organic materials to the relatively tiny amount of material the Aurora brought to the planet to the 'semi-controlled' landing the captain achieved to minimize impact damage. The crash would certainly have an impact on the ecology for sure but you could probably dump 100 Aurora's onto the planet and have less impact on 4546B than we've had on Earth and we're still around (though for how much longer is debatable). I get you were making a tie-in episode but it was disappointing that it was done with such a surface-level theory on a great game.
Right, if he wanted to shove in an ecology theory, he could have played that crappy Endless Ocean game and talked about almost the same stuff. That would make sense since that game actually takes place in the human world
He uses this game for nothing but a dpringboard to talk about what he wanted to talk about. Earths ocean polution problem. Which is something that needs to be talked about! But there are much better games and themes to use as a springboard then subnautica.
Y’all say there are better games for him to do this theory with but let’s be real. You probably would not have watched this without subnautica’s name slapped on the title of the vid.
The problem with this theory is you assume this civilization has made no advancements in manufacturing technology, also the whole map in subnautica is on top of a island in the middle of a massive super deep ocean. The most that would be hurt beyond the island is a few ghost leviathans.
The entire planet isn't ONE crater (That's where you play, inside a crater, not an island) and then just an infinitely deep ocean full of NOTHING but ghost leviathans. That's what's IMMEDIATELY around the crater. Beyond that is other ecosystems and lots of life. And they have made advancements in manufacturing, obviously. They can now make plastic bottles in the field as well. So..... yeah, don't pretend Alterra CARES about the environment.
@@Groovemonkey-pd4ht Heck, he doesn't even account for the nature of the radiation leak. All the evidence points to a leak of ACTUAL RADIATION, not radioactive materials. That's worlds different and he should know better. He even glossed over the key evidence as if it were nothing (You seal up the reactor and the radiation disappears).
Matpat in this video: hes got the spirit, but maybe he needs a little more knowledge about the game before assuming trash contaminates this crater on 4546B.
Yeah he forgets there was a ship before the Aroura and how all the plastic bottle on-ship are in sealed crates and the Aroura's leak being seal unlike Chernobyl's
This entire video was such a huge stretch. It assumes that everything hundreds of years in the future is exactly the same as now. Which I consider to be incredibly short-sighted in a video parading around as science-based. Yea, I know that pointing out that subnautica is sci-fi is like protecting something with plot armor, but comparing a space craft from the end of the 22nd century to how NASA is currently getting to Mars is so bizarre and ridiculous.
and also, WE never intended to crash nor land on the ALIEN planet, how the hell would he know that a completely alien species would suffer ill effects of radiation? hell, the ship crashed right in an ecosystem with predators loitering literally around the crash site and are still kicking... or should I say, biting YOU. And what's more, there practically 0 plastic on the ship, only synthetic plastic and the rest is literally titanium junk and blueprints, and what's more it was an alien orbital defense system that shot down the ship
Aside from the fact that subnatica is set in the far future, making any conclusions drawn from our current technologies shaky at best, there are a few facts established in the game that throw Matt's conclusions into doubt. First, the existence of the fabricators means that food can be prepared to order without individual packaging, and that such packaging can be reused repeatedly and easily. This, combined with the fact that most small items on board the ship would be incinerated instead of released, makes his estimate of the amount of trash released by the crash laughable. Second, the sheer number of crashes that have happened on this planet without destroying it's ecosystems any more than the Karaa has puts his conclusion that the Aurora's crash is devastating into doubt.
MatPat: "You killed the planet" Me who knows the lore of this game and below zero: "Have you even played the game, no no I didn't." I honestly think this is an excuse to promote team seas there's a lot wrong with this theory.
It’s definitely important to promote team seas, and a subnautica theory would have been amazing (what actually are the architects, what makes Kharaa so dangerous, how warpers work, etc) but it was a very… meh comparison instead. Like the message of saving our oceans but the theory is really… not his best
"Humanity killed 4546 b! Just like we do everything!" Pretty sure that fault still lies on the dead alien race that thought it was a great idea to build an automated planitary defense cannon network that shoots down the Aurora. Oh, as well as the second ship that responds to our SOS beacon.
Not to mention that in addition to this orbital battery not giving any warning, they were the ones who released the Kharaa bacterium onto the planet, which caused massive deaths in the local biosphere and forced it to adapt to the bacterium.
I feel the need to point out some flaws in the expelled supply estimate. First of all, all of the supplies of the Aurora weren't expelled by the crash and explosion, as you can still find a lot in the areas of the ship that you can reach, with an unknown quantity within the inaccessible areas. Secondly, the Aurora wasn't the first ship to crash. The Degasi crashed almost a decade before that, and there aren't catastrophes stemming from that. Then there's also the fact that flora and fauna can be absurdly adaptable and resilient. You've got a pair of leviathans patrolling in close proximity to a lethal radioactive source seemingly unharmed, not to mention lizards that bathe in LAVA. Heck, you don't even need to look far to see strange adaptations. Tardigrades, for example, can survive radiation, extreme pressures both high and low, extreme temperatures, and even being exposed to outer space. And as others have pointed out, the Aurora's captain stayed until the end, attempting an emergency landing, as well as the fact we don't know what the crash zone previously looked like, but is suggested to have prehaps been landmass (or at least very shallow). It's also not completely Aurora's fault, the Architects didn't really plan things through when they just stuck a giant gun on the planet that shoots anything that comes close, because of "quarantine", as opposed to setting up a forcefield or something.
its not that the architects didnt plan correctly, the gun was supposed to strand you on the planet as to prevent spreading of the bacteria to other planets. they thought dooming that planet was better then letting many planets get infected. but yeah a forcefield would be much better, but would also inspire hypotethical "space pirates" to break through it
What happened was that the pilot of the Aurora guided the aurora down to safely land it after the turret shot it down. It can be assumed that with how little damage there is, he landed it safely and successfully at the cost of his own life. There's actually an audio file that proves this, the captain talking to the co-captain about attempting to safely land the aurora whilst mid attempt.
I agree very much. Subnautica has some of the biggest lore I’ve seen in any game. I love this game so much and I think if he could research this game heavily. He would have many more content on this game.
One of the biggest misconceptions about ship wreckege is the paint. Red paint on the ships are especially there for poisoning animas such as barnacles. Because they are damaging the ship and they are traveling with it to literally everywhere and spreading . But spaceships doesnt need to consider something like that and doesnt has that kind of paint on them. So it would be much less impact on the ecology of the crashzone.
@@gameypiettvgamergames7463 The Aurora and Degasi crews never intended to land on the planet. Both were attempting slingshot maneuvers to change course to somewhere else. The only reason why the Aurora and Degasi are on the planet is because of the *_GIANT ALIEN GUN_* that maintains the quarantine.
@@Dingus_Khaan I mean, the Aurora did have the secondary purpose of landing on the planet to investigate the disappearance of the Degasi but even then I agree with you that I'm pretty sure that the Aurora never planned to land on the planet instead sending a few cyclopes, (hate that plural form) seamoths, and prawn suits to investigate the crater. We see that in one of the PDAs in a wreck and of course the presence of aquatic vehicles in the first place.
@@captaingoomba6907 Scan it, and if they found any evidence of the Degasi, likely send some seamoths or P.R.A.W.Ns down to investigate. Also want to mention to the commenter above, the Aurora didn't have a Cyclops bay to our knowledge, and the Cyclops isn't operable in space like the seamoth and P.R.A.W.N suits are.
Another thing that was missed, he gives a food calculation based on the fact that it has been dehydrated , yet I distinctly recall their being a cafe of sorts with items like soda and vending machines onboard.
Matpat makes theory, ignoring things like “controlled descent”, lore of the game, how detonation on Aurora occurred , size of a map and He made ship crush OUR fault, creating feeling about this video being no more than an ad.
@@LuisFelipe-jb1bqthey are made out of bio matter, they are fully degradable, in no moment we have acess to any sort of petroleum, the highest damaging matter we lay our hands on is uranium, which we can discard in a proper containment
Now I don’t know a lot about the science behind this but I have played Subnautica. Now first off the bottles are metal not plastic. And our character didn’t solve the Kharaa virus the aliens actually did they couldn’t communicate with the sea emperor the one able to give the recipe for the hatching enzymes in order to hatch the sea emperors eggs. The emperor also mentions that the architects hurt it in some way and after not being able to communicate actually stopped trying because it held a grudge on them and refused to help them. The architects set up the peeper system to heal the wildlife to keep the planet alive. The Aurora wasn’t the first ship to crash land on the planet. And they didn’t crash on purpose because the architect laser made them due to the quarantine on the planet. And the area that you play in is actually a volcano and is a crater. It is clear that is isolated from the other parts of the planet and their ecosystems. And even though companies don’t have a good track record with caring for the environment the company that made the Aurora is designed for space travel and exploration you don’t hear any lore about other planets they have visited but I am sure with all that they have made they have learned how to affect the planet in the most little way possible even if their ships land and leak radiation everywhere. This is a Sci-fi game don’t critique it on the tech we have today. If you want to hear a good critic on this game and the flaws that it has I would recommend to watch Joseph Anderson’s critique on it. Because he at least went a little deeper into the lore of the game before giving it a critique like this.
little right little wrong, the Emperor actually specifies she couldn't communicate with the Architects (likely due to their bodies not being organic like ours and thus their consciousnesses not being within her reach telepathically) and they were unable to force the incubation, They never hurt the Emperor but also didn't actively help the situation either. The peeper system also was NOT done by the Architects, the system the peepers use is for water cycling like for air and the like the peepers which are within game lore rather smart actually, just realized they could also use the system and the emperor used them to spread what little help it could.
@@biosaber585 Your right in the sea emperor didn’t get hurt and I knew that she couldn’t communicate with them maybe I forgot to mention that. But I know do remember where I got that they hurt the sea emperor they took one of the eggs and forcibly hatched it. I am pretty sure you can find the body in the last base. I have always seen this as why she doesn’t give the recipe for the hatching enzymes. Because she states after opening the teleported that she gives you the secret that the others couldn’t force from her. This to me makes it sound that she couldn’t communicate with them but could at least somehow give them the enzymes idk just my theory on the situation. And I had no clue about the vent thing so thank you.
@@nightinvestigations5273 no problem. You're correct they did forcibly hatch an egg however I never took her to be malicious over this act, maybe its just how we all interpret things.
@@biosaber585 I definitely think it’s up to interpretation because the game is kinda unclear with it. And both outcomes are totally viable in the story.
@@TheScaryman1945 For me it started with the For Honor theory. I've always been somewhat of a history buff, and being able to recognise several *huge* mistakes and oversights in the video with what i'd learned on my own, via just straight up class or other, actually informed channels, i couldn't bear to watch it more than once. And, of course, when kid me realised MatPat wasn't infallable, he started to notice problems in almost all the new theories being posted. Quickly stopping watching the channel and never looking back apart from the occasional time he popped into my recommendations. This one i had to see for myself, both because of the TeamSeas involvement and because i love Subnautica. Shame on him. This video is an embarrassment.
This is maybe the only theory that Matpat got absolutely wrong, yes, the crash maybe did do something bad, but this video released when we already knew about Below Zero! And that game proves the planet is much bigger!
This theory was a snooze button. It really felt like you had a powerful environmental message to share and then kinda grafted it onto the only game that made tangential sense. Usually I love your theories but this one was a miss.
I typically like MatPat's theories. And imagine my giddiness when I seen he was talking about Subnautica, one of my favorite games. But this on....yeah I'm very disappointed in it. It's not MatPat's fault, he's just the face of the channel. It's his writers. We aren't the first humans to arrive as it's made clear by the Degrassi bases. Also we CRASHED. This video made it sound like we intentionally came there to dump our trash on some kind of suicide mission. The water bottles are actually metal as it's more durable than plastic. We have them in the real world. This is also an inactive volcano and thus the radiation and destruction is quite minimal as opposed to say where Below Zero takes place. We are also applying real world biomechanics to aliens. Most are pretty resilient aside from the Kaaras. I mean look at the Reaper and Ghost Leviathans and even the smaller buggers like the sand sharks. They hang out near the Aurora. The GLs lurk outside the volcano because they're too massive to be elsewhere. Their babies is located IN the volcano. Even if you didn't make it far game, you can gather at least this much when Sunbeam gets shot out of the sky by the QSC as it tries to rescue you. The Artilects aren't the villains' either. Just misguided in their desperation. And when you're desperate, you tend to do more morally questionable things than you normally would consider. The Sea Emperor couldn't reach them telepathically. They had some kind of barrier preventing her. She says this much at the end game. She doesn't control when they hatch, just when THEY want to when certain conditions are met. Like when animals keep their eggs until more food is available. You just can't force them (incubate vs setting them on fire). I don't think they mistreated her per say. Just a lack of communication between them. I can go on but I've already sent a giant wall of text.
The Degasi also crashed, because of the giant alien laser gun as well. None of us wanted to be there. And you'd think in the time between now and space travel and phasegates and spaceship cafes, we'd have figured out some more eco friendly solutions to the things mentioned in the video. He's putting modern research and modern tech and modern problems to a futuristic space ship and it's debris. And I don't think it's an accident that the game doesn't mention what little damage the Aurora ACTUALLY did, Alterra is a company that's pretty much futuristic Nestle/ EA, they want money, and don't care what ecosystem or people get hurt getting it. So it makes sense our PDA AI don't mention any damage we do to the environment, because she ultimately doesn't care. I could also go on, but the main point is that this theory doesn't hold up all too well, but in his defense I think he was just trying to make a water pollution game theory for team seas and since there aren't many games that we care about that actually talk or give proper evidence of water pollution, Mat pat and his writers just had to stretch some ingame lore into a theory.
I would like to remind everyone that it was the alien gun that shot the aurora down, all the crew was attempting to do was to use 4546B as a gravity slingshot, to get around the planet to get to their next destination. So it's not our fault. EDIT: Thanks for all the likes everyone! I appreciate it
@@theanathema3062 iirc, they made the gun to keep people from getting to the planet and leaving with the possibility of spreading the kharaa. They knew it was a lost cause at this point, so they took preventative measures to ensure the same didn't happen to another planet.
I was about to mention that, yeah. Maybe if the Architects weren’t such dicks to the Sea Emperor stealing her eggs and whatnot, they could’ve gotten enzyme 42, cured the planet and wouldn’t have had to build the QEP that shot the Degassi and Aurora down.
I completely agree. They talk about that on the second game. The Architects set up the quarantine on the planet to study the effect of the virus plaguing their own people. When the virus got out they built the ray gun to ensure no other planets were infected. We are not the first ship that's been shot down! We see two different ships, the Aurora and the Sunbeam so the odds of there being infinitely more ships buried somewhere is increasingly likely. So while yes, we are damaging the ecosystem, but we were never meant to be there in the first place. However, by crash landing, we find the cure and stop the virus thus preventing any more ships from being shot down and damaging the planet further, thus saving the planet in the end.
Maybe Matpat should have thought about this before doing this, I honestly don't know what was going through his mind unless he wanted to get insulted😐.
The water bottles might be made of iron. You just need 1 bladder fish to make a bottle of water. No plastic needed in crafting, meaning the bottle is made up of something in the fish's body. Perhaps a amalgam of calcium and iron.
I get what you are trying to do here, but you should have actually played the game. For the water bottles, they have a fancy space magic tech that allows them to build things at the nano-scale from raw materials. So, to get water you basically put in a fish. There weren't any hydrocarbon raw plastics involved. For all we know, the 'bottles' are biodegradable and simply made from the leftover fish bits. As for the reactor, while it's true that early on the radiation is an issue, as you can fix the reactor this limits the issue. Also, while the starship is certainly big, even with a crew of 150+ and all the stuff they would need to survive 3 years it's going to be a local ecological problem, not a global one. If it were a global issue then Earth would have long ago died off. Even the nuclear reactor, if it explodes and sits there for centuries rotting away and spilling out highly radioactive particles is not going to be world ending, merely a nasty local issue. You are translating what billions of humans do and extrapolating gloom and doom from less than 200 humans and a nuclear-powered starship on an entire planet...which doesn't translate. Sorry, you should have let Austin take a shot at this one, assuming he's played the game. :p
He wouldn't have even needed to play the game himself as tons of youtubers and Twitchies have played it and have video of it, or heck, even just a common google or wikipedia search could have told him differently. This was just an ocean-themed 'theory' video to plug an advertisement using a popular loved subject as clickbait.
Ok, I'm going to be honest, this was one of your lesser theories Matt. First of all, it wasn't the players fault, nor was it the fault of anyone on the ship that it crashed. The planet was designated as a Quarantine Zone by the Architects and massive AA guns were created to stop any ships from leaving or entering the planet's atmosphere. Unfortunately for the Aurora, it came in close enough to alert the defense systems and was shot down. 2nd, I don't see how one crashed ship could destroy the entire ecosystem of the planet. I mean it's just one ship in a fairly remote region of the ocean. It's not like here where nations all over the world have their trash end up in the ocean. I mean, I get that this video is mostly to sponsor a good cause, but I wish you would've acknowledged these issues.
And majority of the planet aside from the poles is apparently just ocean with a few islands... Meaning it's practically impossible to assume one or three ship crashes could end the entire planet....
Love you Matt, but I have some holes in your theory/ comments: 1. All of the plastics we find, and things like food and batteries, are store in titanium storage crates. So unless opened by the player on purpose, they shouldn't get out and contaminate the water 2. As the Aurora crashes, when you listen to the Black Box recording, you can hear him say that he's trying a "controlled decent." The obviously doesn't work completely, but it may account for the lack of damage we see to other areas of the map. 3. The entire playable area of Subnautica is called The Crater, since it was a volcano, and now is a caldera, ie how we have a Lava Lakes zone in the world. I think this would stop a lot of damage from spreading outside of the playable area, and especially stop much damage from occurring to the rest of the planet I think the species most at risk is the Ghost Leviathan, the ones that live in the Void specifically. Since they generally eat microorganisms.
In the logs you find later in the game, you find that this is the only living area on the planet due to the peepers spreading the cure enzyme through alien water vents
plus, you quickly manage to stop the radiation spill of the ship and the packaging of the food is probably not made out of plastic giving that there are LITERAL MOLLECULE FABRICATORS, so cellulose would just be much more cheap
"Believe me, There was a lot of diving and searching involved." So, uh fun fact, Diving goes down to around 60m and Deep Diving goes to around 120m. MatPat love you bro, but you went down to 10m in a game where you can go 4000m+ in and called it a day. The amount of lore (which I'm sure the comments told you alot of already) is well, quite a bit, Honestly I would love to see you play this on GT Live or maybe make a Food Theory out of it. Hope you come across this game again soon.
2 things. 1 in the game your PDA says too you that all the radiation is coming from the Aurora’s Power Core, which if you fix the Power Core the PDA then says that you have single handedly avoided a disaster. Or it says something like Crysis avoided I don’t remember the exact line. So the Radiation is no problem. 2. The entire Map of Subnautica is a giant Crater, and the Aurora crashed right on the edge of said Crater. If you look up a picture of the Subnautica map you’ll see what I’m talking about for yourself. What I’m saying here is would you Rather the Aurora fall 8,500 meters down, Thats as far as the Craters edge goes as far as the game tells us. Then the Radiation explodes outwords in every single direction. Because what happened when the Drive Core exploded was all the radiation leaked into the crater ya know where the game takes place. We also know as of Subnautica below Zero, that 4546B is now fully under control of the Federation. So we can assume that they have removed the Aurora or at least torn the vessel into smaller parts so they can be tossed into orbit We also know 1 other thing we know that the Aurora wasn’t traveling that fast when it hit the ocean ground, the Trailer for Subnautica starts with the captain of the vessel saying and I quote. “I’m attempting a controlled descend” AKA Slowing way down and pulling hard upwards to rip the speed WAYYYYY down. Also in Subnautic yes we still use Batteries and yes we use Copper however this changes later in the game where we discover Ion Crystal’s. Which according to the games PDA Has enough energy too match that of over 5 Million nukes combined, but its being released into a clean and reliable energy source that doesn’t harm anything. Something else… majority of the fish in Subnautica are immune or have high resistance to Radiation.
Also let's not forget that there's TONS of natural minerals exposed and copper is everywhere, I fully theorise that native fishes are completely adapted to live in environnement enriched in such elements. The wrecks are also made of element common to the planet, so they would do almost nothing.
You can see the fish immediately start scavenging the wreck and tearing parts of the hull off for minerals in their actual bodies, I think they're much more adapted to high levels of elements than anyone thinks. Hell even the reapers come a calling hoping to find some juicy little meals, although I don't understand why they would chase the player seeing as how he's like 100000x smaller than them. That would be like running a marathon only to get a peanut at the end for your trouble.
@@Neoprenesiren If you manage too scan a Reaper and read the PDA. It says that Reapers are all muscle and very little brain. Which probably explains why they eat basically anything
He doesn't care too much about the game, I'm pretty sure he just got told my the editors what to say, he's not smart enough to run this many channels I'm afraid
“You ruined the ecosystem, you landed on this planet” M’dude i crashed on the planet. But I do think you forgot a lot of major plot points, the ecosystem wasn’t fine to begin with. Most animals are also resistant to radiation. So we actually did save the planet by curing the Khaara virus. This isn’t earth, this is an entire different planet. This is also waaaaay in the future. I love your channel and I’d love it (and I know I’m not the only one) if you redid this theory :)
MatPat: "YOU doomed the world of Subnautica, so recklessly crashing down onto the planet. Shame on you!"
Anyone who actually played the game: "Well maybe I wouldn't have crashed down onto this planet if our ship wasn't SHOT OUT OF ORBIT!"
Yeah i dont think he played beyond the aurora explosion
EXACTLY!!
That, and the fact that there's no human savior complex thing going on...the game makes it pretty clear that the only reason you are able to solve the disease is because 90% of the work was done for you, and you just have a little more empathy for...the..end bit...we'll say, just in case anyone doesn't want real spoilers...
Also for the trash that pretty much everything is synthesized to order...I could be remembering incorrectly but didn't the vending machines even actually just basically digistruct everything Star Trek replicator style?
And maybe I wouldn't have crashed the ship if I were actually the pilot. Riley Robinson had 0 input over the ship's course or voyage, he was just the only one lucky enough to not die
@@Selena-hz8yc no
"You killed the planet!"
Me with the haunting memories of the deep monsters and environments from the game: *good*
*That's where THEORISTS has gone:*
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Bruh.
@L U C K Y • why .... just ... why
@@A_Moron_Is_I Because bot
yeah maybe its for the best D:
Matpat: the problem that the game doesn't address
Literally the game: "the aurora drive core will have devastating effects on the ecosystem if not contained within 24 hours"
Ikr
True
Yup
me feeling bad cause I didnt head right to the aurora to repair it til 4 or 5 days after it exploded... too busy exploring and making my base
@@aquamare1452 Yeah, those reapers are scary man.
MatPat: *exits the lifepod*
also MatPat: that's enough research
Accurate.
True
bro took one look and made a 20 minute video
Ok that's just hate
And that's really bad
MatPat- “you killed the planet!”
Me- “ah yes, tell that to the big gun that shot us and our rescue ship down.”
The aliens killed the planet
@-Y O L A N D A- 🍎 holy god this bot is annoying
@@aydentew312 I agree. That Account should be Shameful, next time they're Bucking is in Hell XD
Well, when I remember correrly it was their fault in two ways. First, they started containment (yes that big turret). Second, they tried to rush the grow of Sea Emperor's babies. And I will never forget they called us primitive creatures. At least we don't steal someone elses DNA to improve ourselves.
Every alien killed the planet
The water bottles in subnautica are actually not plastic. You only need a bladderfish to make a water bottle, meaning that the bottles are fully biodegradable.
Post crash water bottles you mean, those found on the ship prior to the crash are likely plastic.
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@@Dino_5500 Given how Corporate works, and the fact that fabricators 3D print *molecules*, the bottles most likely aren't plastics. It would be easier and quicker to make them out of pure cellulose.
Also the fabricators craft by recycling
@@Dino_5500 even if they were they were released in too small a quantity to have any major impact on the planet as such mat pat has made a fearmongering video
"You killed the planet"
Me, systematically hunting down leviathans and punching them to death with a big stompy robot: No, I conquered it. There's only room on this world for one apex predator.
Pfft
Gargantuan leviathan family : hey
facts
”There is only one dominant lifeform in this universe“
yeah i nned to start doing that, i need to get to losst river but have almost lost my cyclopse 3 times, i am going to make a new seamoth just for killing liviathons
MatPat: the crash likely killed all life near the aurora
Reaper Leviathans: "its about drive, its about power, we stay hungry we devour"
Also sandsharks
@@FishFactInc. When where realistic you have to think about the Distance of the back of Aurora to the save shallows and the stalker biom is not that faaar, and there is living all Kind of stuff😂 so this Theory is trash if you think about below zero where its pretty clear to see that theres nothing dead...
Erm, actually the crash zone was originally a part of the safe shallows and reaper leviathans are only over there because they are attracted to how much noise the crash made.
They definitely do devour…
also stalkers
Matpat: “the radiation would probably kill all the sea life near It instantly.”
Reapers: “Is that a challenge?”
Not only does it survive, it thrives 😅
reaper scary
It’s not funny
@@santiagoalvarez6085 bozo
:)
Matpat, a couple of minor things about the aurora. The crash size was probably affected by a few things not stated in the episode. The captain's log makes it clear that he was still steering the ship when it went down with the intent on trying to minimize damage to the ship. He knew it needed to remain intact for a rescue to be possible. This, combined with the fact that the game takes place on the top of an inactive volcano instead of the ocean bottom, could account for why the damage was as small as it was. The aurora might have hit water first and then hit ground after slowing down.
It also landed at on a bunch of holes to the lava zone.
@@striderpup1169 That got covered up, Luckily we still have access to reapers.
@@Selena-hz8yc why
Plus the aurora actually landed on an island and not in the water at all
Also, the crash was caused by the Cannon enforcing the quarantine and the filtered water is made of only a bladderfish, so it's safe to say that the containers are organic and biodegradable
The player: Cures a virus that would've infected the entire planet and killed everything
MatPat: We are not a net positive for this planet
The virus had been there for over 1000 years, if all life hadn't died by that point it was never going to die form Kharaa
Are We... Really Cure The Planet?
*Or Just Ourselves?*
@@imashadow699 The planet... we release baby Emperor leviathins into the ocean which then released the weird cure blobs into the ocean.
@@GrandGourd I Thought The Blob Was Just For Us And They Won't Make It More 😅
@@imashadow699 Well, enzyme 32 is released by Juvenile Sea Emperor Leviathans, enzyme 32 being the cure for the Kharaa Bacterium.
The creatures in Subnautica are already used to (small amounts of) radiation. Here’s my proof: in most deeper biomes you can find radioactive crystals exposed underwater. The PDA talks about the radiation, and when you pick them up you can hear a Geiger counter make a radioactive sound. Reapers and Sandsharks thrive close enough to the Aurora even right after the explosion where the effects would be highly fatal for us without the proper equipment. Even jellyrays which have barely any protection behave normally in high doses of radiation. We might have killed a lot of the wildlife, but certainly not most of it.
Not to mention the bleeders living A ok inside the most radioactive place on the map
@@Choomparyo fr they r literally inside the core of the radiation
“The radiation probably killed the animals in the vicinity immediately”
Reapers, actively travelling en mass to the irradiated zone: *I have no such weaknesses*
Yea, they legit survive on radiation- Would you like to hear my theory about that?
@@_-NatureMations-_ no
@@twentypence9163 Ok... I was asking them Lol
@@_-NatureMations-_ what's your theory
@@mememan1546 Perhaps since they are only found places near electricity and radiation(The aurora, the dunes with it's alien things, and the mountains with the alien base) they were created by the Pre-cursors to suck up radiation from the Degasi ship's crash. They would absorb the radiation, but in living with so much of it, went blind from radiation and developed echolocation to help with the murky junk filled waters. They eventually escaped and repopulated, creating the ones we know now, and when the Aurora crashed three went from the dunes(This is why the dunes has the least) and started feasting.
Hello Matpat, excuse my possibly clunky use of the english language.
I was really excited about a Subnautica theory because of the incredible lore this beautiful game has to offer. This however turned out to be more of a TeamSeas ad then a theory. Believe me when I say, I'm a big fan of your theories in general, but this time just a pinch of actual research lets it fall apart. Please see the following evidence:
The Impact of the craft being catastrophic:
Logs you can find in the game (e.g. Lifepod 19 Second Officer Keen's Voicelog) confirm that the captain of the Aurora took over manual control and tried to execute a controlled descent of the ship after the midair/orbital incident. As the Aurora was trying to use the planet for a swing-by-maneuver it's trajectory in relation to the surface would have already been flat and due to its speed the craft would be able to hold this flat approach for a while. This would lead to the Aurora hitting the planet's surface at a much more controlled angle and potentially lower speed in the end compared to a "falling out of the sky" scenario, and therefore much less damage to the geology around the crash site.
The waste of the Aurora being a danger to the ecosystem:
While there certainly will be an impact of some items on that ship, it should be argued that a civilization this advanced will not rely on plastic as the material of their products. The fabricator (one of the game's crafting stations), where you craft the basic versions of the drinkable water items in the game, materializes them, bottle and all, from midair using some magical 3D printing laser synthesizing. Even if the bottle was made from polymer (I personally think they are made from metal, looking at the model, or rather from some sort of completely organic material as you can craft a water bottle using a fish as input material only), trash would not be an issue. A good indicator for this is the buildable trash can in the game. Its description says that it "Permanently deconstruct[s] unwanted items and safely release[s] their constituent atoms into the atmosphere." The same can be said for the similar functioning "Nuclear Waste Disposal" which also permanently deletes Nuclear Waste from existence. This technology exists and Below Zero shows there to be an ongoing human presence on the planet, so accumulating waste shouldn't be a thing.
The radiation (could also insert dissolved chemicals) being a danger to the wildlife of 4546B:
As it has been said, the radiation as a result of the leaking drive core would dissipate after a while, should the breaches be sealed. So there is a finite amount of radioactive material/radiation actually finding its way into the environment, that means it will start to be diluted by the ocean. The map we are playing on in Subnautica is called The Crater and is about 2x2km in size according to the data bank entry (Fun Fact: The actual size of the map is almost double that) with the rest of the planet (excluding Sector Zero) being an ecological deadzone with only microscopic and leviathan life. That would mean that the ocean currents would transport the majority of the radioactive material out of this small inhabited crater's area in no time. Your example of the radioactive material from the Fukushima disaster making it all the way to Canada in a really short timespan proves my point. The radiation spreads out, therefore gets weaker and as there is no source for more unnatural radiation to come from anymore, the affected volume of the medium (the water) will be moved and spare the crater.
I sure hope we'll get a Subnautica episode about the extensive lore in the future.
But hey, that's just a theory. A comment-section theory :)
This needs to be top comment..
Dude, your English is incredible!
@@multihacker3695 yep
thank god someone who played the game, matpat although is really a great theorist, he never addresses these points or seems to make himself at the least like he played it.
this comment was more interesting than the entire episode
Hi! As someone who’s played this game dozens of times, I have a *few* things to say about this theory:
While the area surrounding the crash site doesn’t seem as damaged as it should be, the surface is only a small part of this game. A lot of this game, if not most, takes place *below* the ocean floor in underwater caves. As for the batteries, most of the batteries found in this game are still sealed in Alterra containers when found. Even if the batteries were exposed, and their copper contents spilling into the ocean, copper is already a naturally occurring recourse on this planet’s ocean floor surface. Also, this theory says that tens of thousands of wreckage are unaccounted for because there would be a lot more debris than just the metal scraps, but look not further than the *entire thruster* that detached from the Aurora during its crash, or in space orbiting the planet seen as the Neptune 01 rocket leaves the planet. And even if the negative effects of the Aurora’s crash exceeded the map we are given to explore during the game, the game takes place on a thermal crater risen above the ocean floor. The ocean surrounding the crash site is just an empty abyss as seen by the sheer drop off at the edge of the map. One final note is that the *entire* planet was doomed to the Kharaa bacterium long before the Aurora’s crash, and while the Aurora killed a significant amount of flora and fauna living on the thermal crater, the player onboard cured the planet of the deadly Kharaa and, as we see in Below Zero, it seems to have worked given the only Kharaa we see in the sequel is on a frozen leviathan.
Sorry, not to be “that guy,” but I feel very passionately about this game and its story :)
I understand that the cause for this theory is greater than just a video game and it’s pretty cool you guys are raising money to clean our non-fictional oceans!
Waw, thanks for this long comment, with your points made it makes sense and it defenetly changed my opinion
This is true as I have played through the game multiple times too
I was thinking the same thing most items we find like food and electronics are sealed in boxes
yeah i was bouta say, this dont add up
@@Ethan-_-Lim yep 👍 just beat me to it lol
"The game even has a LITTLE bit of story" -MatPat talking about Subnautica
True, i mean it is 50%
a little? A LITTLE??!?
Important point (spoiler if anyone cares): blame the “Architects”. The Aurora was shot down, by an automated weapon.
Another important point is time. Time is compressed for gameplay reasons. After all when the Sunbeam attempts to Mount their rescue - they announce they’re more than a week away. It doesn’t take a week before they show.
& of course Sunbeam is also shot down, as was the Degassi years earlier. Humans didn’t doom that planet.
Oh and one more important thing you seem to have missed; the Aurora’s captain stayed aboard to attempt a controlled crash landing. This is why the damage doesn’t match what you claimed would wipe out the whole zone. She didn’t simply auger in at terminal velocity.
Inb4 “They quarantined the planet with the ship battery”
Can’t they have just adjusted the targeting range at the atmosphere instead of ships traveling near their planet?
Since when did captains of ships just nose down the instant they lose all power?
Ever heard of the plane crash in the hudson bay no?
@@Dedelblute3 C5 crash at Bagram. th-cam.com/video/5fpxm0D46iQ/w-d-xo.html
Yes, Sully was able to make a controlled landing in the Hudson. & he was lucky to have made it. But that’s exactly my point. The Aurora was “set down” also.
Facts
WHAAAAAAT ? matpat ignoring crucial Information to make a baseless claim and call it a theory? NO WAAAAAY
"You shouldn't crash here"
"Sorry, next time we will ask the alien weapons to not shoot us down"
Nah, just park it somewhere in the abyss, it'll be fine
@@Sniper_4_Life Genshin Impact Abyss be like "BY HOLY PROCLAMATION!"
Lol true
@@daysand123 ?
@@michaelstaab2872 guys lets just ask the giant alien gun to power down
This whole video essentially ignores the plot of the game, and the sheer technological advancement the future humans in this setting have made
I know right.
The captain goes down with his ship in order to make sure that it lands in one piece, and before the explosion the aurora is clearly in one piece. But Mat doesn't even acknowledge this, he acts as if the ship had been thrown at the planet instead of landing on it. Everything is downhill from there.
Yeah, also I'm pretty sure humanity won't still be using plastic in the 23rd century.
Humanity literally took-over the Milky Way and Andromeda in this world, so I think they stopped using plastic water bottles.
@@IbrahimAli-vt1fv we probably will, but subnautica bottles are made of organic materials, since the bladder fish skin goes somewhere
MatPat: "At last! I have found the Scroll of Truth!"
Scroll of Truth: "Subnautica's in-game lore proves that the Aurora's crash will not cause the death of the planet."
MatPat: [yeets the Scroll] "Nyehh!!!"
MatPat got so exhausted, and burnt out from the Fnaf lore, that he decided to turn off his brain for this video 😭
Matt... As someone who actually played the game, I can say that so much of this was wrong.
- Aurora was shot down by the Architect quarantine laser platform and the captain still had some control of the ship, slowing it down enough to not hit as hard
- all crafted things in the game were made specifically out of the surrounding flora/fauna, leaving it to be fully biodegradable
- batteries and the reactor core were all well contained enough to not leak as much as you said
- nutrient blocks had no packaging whatsoever, and Alterra is kinda bad when it comes to treating its employees so not as many nutrient blocks were made
- the Kharaa virus was cured by the player, making the second game possible
- the alien creatures living there already may have been immune to the radiation poisoning, like the Reaper Leviathans swimming around and the Biters + Crabs waltzing and swimming within
Yeah matt put surprisingly little research
dont forget practically everything else living in radiation, sandsharks, countless prey fish, stalkers
@@Rumins-ja09s reminds me of a certain tf2 vs overwatch video..
@@cheesy7805 the G.U.N isn't needed anymore by the you disable it because the cure has been realised getting rid of the infection you know the whole point of the G.U.N being online
Also fcking space poachers everything is controlled by like 8 companies who want 4546B for research
In his defense,most of the research in this video seems to focus mainly on ecology,history and chemistry rather than the lore.🤷♂️
While I appreciate Matt's dedication to getting the facts, his information with regards to nuclear power and reactors is a bit off. I've been working in the nuclear power field for nearly a decade and its miscommunicated information like this that scares people. With out context of scale talking about radiation means very little. Explaining the values compared to chest x-rays, standard airplane flights or even bananas (yes they are radioactive) helps put things into context. Additionally the safety features in reactors are typically very well engineered and in the community we study what went wrong at both Fukushima and Chernobyl to ensure disasters like that never happen again.
Matt in the future it would be nice to see you do a collaboration with somebody from the nuclear power field to explain the differences from game to reality. A lot of peoples only knowledge of nuclear power comes from movies or games, which often depict it as bad. No technology is inherently good or bad, its about who we use it.
For example, sailors on board nuclear missile subs (meaning they are powered by a nuclear reactor, as are all active duty submarines in the US Navy) actually received less overall radiation exposure per year then your average person does due to spedning about half the year under water and thus not exposed to sunlight. Meaning living in a small metal tube with a nuclear reactor going 24/7 results in less radiation exposure then just taking a stroll outside on a sunny day.
@@7Seraphem7 just don’t go outside 😎
I was thinking that too. I had to write a report on multiple different occasions about which type of energy system I think would be best for the future of the planet, and it’s always been nuclear power. Of course, my ideal is nuclear fission, but that’s currently improbable. But out of all of them, nuclear has always been the most productive, currently powering like 70% France maybe I think fact check that, the most safe if handled appropriately and legally(Chernobyl was a massive fuckup of so many rules and regulations by Russia and what not to do), and has the most likely future in powering the earth. I’m sorry green people, but wind, solar, geothermal, etc just won’t power the earths current energy need, even together. And I’m sorry fossil people, but the earth can’t keep using it not only because it’s damaging to animals and people, but because it’s not renewable and we’re running out. Plus, green energy also damages the environment, we just don’t talk about it. Nuclear does by far, from my research, which is probably minuscule compared others, the least damage to the environment when handled properly.
Because it is futuristic technology it was most likely a fusion reactor. Or even better, if humans figured out a way to produce large amounts of antimatter efficiently, antimatter is the most efficient fuel possible (100% of the energy is released in antimatter-matter collisions) and if the storage system for the antimatter was even slightly damaged and even an extremely small amount of antimatter collided with regular matter it would cause a massive explosion of radiation. Also that would explain why the computer calls it a "quantum explosion".
I've been telling this for years to everyone I know that's scared of nuclear power (imo the best powersource we have atm): The likelihood of a nuclear reactor going full meltdown like chernobyl or Fukushima is virtually 0, Especially since then they have absolutely outdone themselves in terms of safety measures and security features. And addressing the topic of nuclear waste, I'm pretty sure that scientists around the globe are working on 2 new types of reactors: one where you can re-use spent fission material until it becomes something like the sun has with iron OR a thorium reactor, which would just produce a side product that we can use for construction etc.
I'm no expert on nuclear power or reactors, I'm just a student doing his A-levels. If I said anything incorrect, please do educate me.
"You killed the planet"
Damn guess it's my fault that aliens built a giant gun to shoot ships out of orbit because they got too close
Ah yes totally my fault
Ah yes
yeah, it's obvious he just read the wiki
@@scp-wasp3463 bro the wiki would've given him far more than enough, this man looked at the game for 5 seconds and thought he could make an accurate theory on it. (Love ya Mat but this theory was ridiculous, a bunch of key lore points were tossed aside just for an advertisement.)
@@IrradiatedNova that is true
Actually Alterra has very advanced trash cans that completely breaks down waste to atoms and safely releases it into the atmosphere, so waste is a non problem if the aurora safely landed
Agreed. And I’m guessing the same technology on the ship probably reprocesses those waste atoms. The ship likely has a large chunk of hydrocarbons that act as a reservoir to create plastics and food on demand, before disposal returns them to the source. No need to keep a large number of individual items around, and energy is the primary consumable. Not too dissimilar in concept to the Sabatier system used on the ISS now, but more advanced.
Subnautica: has a lot of deep interesting lore
Matpat: you destroyed the planet by littering
seeing as the bottles can be made directly via a bladder fish show's it's biodegradable.
@@Sgtlake It seems the filtered water is made of the cellulose from the fish skin
It's made from the fish skin!? I think I'm going to be sick🤢🤮.
@@jediclarkewell, the description does say it isn’t vegan friendly.
@@dogmat8733 the water bottle also disappears after you drink the water…
I like how Matpat sometimes makes really in-depth theories about games while proving that he either didn't play the game or didn't pay any attention to the lore
these kinds of things don't happen often but when they do it's the most entertaining thing on earth
You know you made a horrible theory if a chaos demon says the comment above
Yeah he did the same thing with hollow knight, mossbag has much more in-depth and accurate videos about it
He says "we" killed the planet whenever "we" were shot down by the Precursors. If anything, it's their fault for shooting us down and spreading this raditation. We had no clue about what would be on the planet, and we thought that the gravity sling manuver would work. Whoopsie do, it didn't and the Precursors shot us down.
It's ironic that he brings up Enzyme 42 but doesn't pay attention to the huge factor of the Q.E.P.
Does he even make the theory? I thought he just rips them off Reddit and takes credit for them.
For this one he definitely didn't play the game, the whole food/water packaging thing is completely debunked within minutes of playing the game
Overall you've made some very compelling arguments, but I feel I have to point out two potential oversights. Most glaring is that in the audio and text logs you can find scattered around the game, it is revealed that the captain of the ship stayed on board until the very end to make a controlled decent. While not a proper landing, I feel it lends some credence as to why the crash zone is as small as it is. Perhaps it wasn't a proper or gentle landing, but neither was it a full force crash from orbital height. Coupled with a few other theories I've seen, the site of the crash may not have actually been shallow water. There may have been some small degree of dry land, which would explain why the terrain goes so far up to meet the ship nearly all the way around, even poking above the water for a sizable area around the shull of the Aurora.
Secondly, with the exception of the truly absurd number of water bottles required to survive, you don't encounter much actual plastic. There may even be reason to suggest the water bottles might not even be plastic as we understand it today. In some cases, they almost resemble more of a metallic container. Though I feel a lot was overlooked in the creation of the game on that point, as no materials are actually required to create the container the water goes into. The bottle just seems to materialize out of nothing during the crafting process.
Coupled with that, is the food seen on the ship and various cargo containers scattered throughout the environment. Most are not shown to have any individual containment or packaging of any kind (which is only stranger considering most are found stuffed into cargo boxes). Given the technological level portrayed, it's unlikely that food was brought pre-prepared from another world. And although the ingredients aren't shown or explained, the "Nutrient Block" in my opinion most closely resembles something akin to pemmican. A dry, often bready and nutrient right brick with a frankly mind-boggling shelf life that is often made mainly by survivalists today, and historically in many parts of the world. The logical conclusion is that given how technology has taken over, no one actually makes or stores these food bricks, but instead has them crafted at various and potentially specialized fabricators on the main ship (before the crash). As they can not be made by the player, either they were destroyed in the crash, or remain locked away into areas of the ship that could not be reached due to structural damage (or most likely, something simply overlooked in game development).
Did u really think someone will.read all.this
@@mrdark3011 the fact that your attention span is one word does not mean that everyone's is
@@mateuszweyna7309 hey btw
Have u heard of fnaf
Good point!
@@Cyphoenic ty
Matpat: you caused the death of this planet.
The character who found the cure and stopped more leakage of radiation from the Aurora: am i a joke to you?
"The Aurora's drive core will cause devastating damage to the planet's ecosystem if not contained in the next 24 hours"
_player does this._
_Planet not dead._
This is the same PDA that kept track of how much Alterra property you "borrowed" and any precious minerals you acquired to launch you into debt for the rest of your life the minute you are rescued.
It still exploded, which is why you’re able to enter the Aurora in the first place. It would’ve gotten worse had the player not stopped it, shown by the radiation field increasing over time, but the initial explosion did a good amount of damage, as well as the amount of time it took for the player to fix the drive core
@@anahera6859 the planet was already via the disease, that's why it was quarantined you saved the planet when you helped the giant leviathan lady hatch her eggs
I Havnt completed below zero yet
@@hoaxgamingtrap You’re absolutely right (and neither have I btw), however this specific comment was talking about how the radiation damage to the nearby ecosystem is negated by the player fixing the drive core, when realistically, the initial explosion that let the player into the aurora already let out a ton of radiation.
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“A bit of story”
*people who know the lore*
“Ah yes, just a bit”
@Racing Girl's 😘🤤 buddy I don’t think it’s private if your talking about your fun time in a public TH-cam reply section.
P.S There’s a reason why PH exist IDIOT GO POST THERE.
@@why2298 dont bother, its a malware bot
@@braindavidgilbert3147 I’m joking.
A story that he clearly didn’t actually bother to look into smh
@@imsad3630 “humans are destroying everything and have a saviour complex on subnautica!”
The players, who were shot down unwillingly, who have the most environmentally clean materials available, and who save the planet from complete extinction.
Just play the darn game Mat-Pat, play the entire game, it’s amazing.
it's funny, the one thing he loves, is what he ignored here.
I played alitle dosa that qaunt
Yeah I literally just heard about this game let me write an entire theory on it
Matpat just coming here to say that if you listen to the lifepod 19 second officer keen's voicelog the captain of the aurora says that he is attempting a controlled decent
the captain sacrificed himself to make a controlled decent and Matpat gave him no credit
As someone who played the game and loves it to death, this was more than a bit disappointing
Aren't the aliens called precursors? It's been a while since I have played the game but loved it to death, this didn't do it justice.
@@cerealbeforemilk3566 yes and they are near godly beings with insane technology and godlike bodies and if you havent already then go see what they looked like cuz it was revealed in below zero
@@cerealbeforemilk3566 officially they're Architects now, I think. But that's all Below Zero stuff, which was also great btw
@@infernoxus1432 I have been meaning to play bellow zero ever since, Subnautica was such an impactful game for me. So I naturally tend to avoid spoilers, and was convinced the ancient aliens were called precursors and not architects
@@cerealbeforemilk3566 they have different names, I think they named themself the precursors or architects
"well beyond the scope of our crash site!"
*what's it gonna do, kill one of the infinite dead zone ghost leviathans?*
@J͓̽u͓̽l͓̽i͓̽a͓̽n͓̽a͓̽_______💋 bro what the hell
@@patrykschwarzer7313 I'm reporting the bot cuz why not?
Trueeeee
Is it just me, or are we in another Botpocalypse? Been seeing em a hell of a lot more lately
@@mistergameplayer4000 fr
Not saying the crash was harmless but the alternative was essentially mass extinction, i believe a very painful 100% lethality rate. So i would say our presence had a net positive.
"the radiation probably killed the animals in the vicinity immediately"
Reapers: We march soldiers, WE MARCH ON
Im still standing🗣🔥🗣🔥💯💯
I would like to point out that the water bottles in Subnautica are Biodegradable, because it states that the bottles are made out of organic matter (aka the bladderfish skin). how else do you think the bottle itself is made when you only give it a fish?
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I thought they would have been metal which I'm sure isnt as bad as plastic.
@@fastfirefox1475 metal can actually lead to an increase in the growth of ocean life. corals seem to like growing on metals
What were thetmade of before they had bladderfish available?
Although most of the water you find from the crash aren't the bladder fish made one
I’m just gonna be honest, this theory was disappointing compared to the rest. As someone who loves subnautica as a game I’m sad that game theory didn’t do it justice.
It wasn't even a theory. It was a rant blaming the Aurora for all manner of things that it isn't and blaming the players for it crashing. He is comparing an oil tanker sinking and a nuclear spaceship being shot down and having a controlled fall as the captain kept steering. The water bottles are also clearly metal. They don't float around. The player repairs the drive core and cures the Khaara bacteria. His misinformed episode is fear mongering and going off what he thought should have happened. He doesn't know the state of Auroras engines during the fall. They could have been off. He doesn't mention it was will being steered either. This one is a shame to the channel because its not well informed or even a theory
This was just a woke PSA telling common folk to stop littering. Problem is, It's the government that is dumping the vast majority of the garbage into the ocean. This video had no other purpose but to push the "climate crisis" agenda. nothing more
It was kinda disappointing.. I though he'd be diving more deeper with subnautica's lore... I almost seemed like he did this for the sponsors he have... (don't get me wrong its a noble thing to do but... kinda misplaced here. Also fun fact: my uncle is a captain and he does ocean cleanup in SEA despite the territorial dispute)
He clearly doesnt know anything about this game. He really should do a bit of research before he does videos. Hes just here for the ad revenue
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When he started talking about radiation the first thing that I thought was “well, the reapers seem to be doing pretty good, even though they’re RIGHT NEXT TO THE SHIP”
And bonesharks/sand sharks and misc safe shallows/kelp forest fish living right next to the crash zone in the radioactive area (which is larger than the crash zone biome)
Survival of the fittest :p
@@MrAskmannen Yeah, it really seems to only hurt you (which is a shame because reapers are so, so scary)
there is a theory that the aurora crashed right into reaper territory and they just learned to fend off radiation or are immune to it because of biological evolution
@@Halo786 animals cant learn to fend off radiation in a matter of hours/days, evolution doesnt work that way
Ah yes, you're so right, it's totally my fault that the Aliens built a giant cannon to shoot anything that gets close to the planet. I'm so sorry.
We shouldve told the aliens that we didnt want to get shot down, what a mistake
Honestly dropped the ball on researching here, while the video itself has a high as ever production quality, using models of plastic waste when there are little to none platics used in the game is just odd, khara has and would have had longer lasting effects on the planet wiping out life as we know it, not even mentioning the ecological dedzone when talking about the distance of the radiation or debris, or the adaptation that the aguatic life had already shown around existing crashes thriving in previous crash sites, or heck the giant gun that shot your ship out of orbit. Dissapointined is the lack of quality research here.
I'm glad you mentioned the instigating incident. It isn't humans that caused the crash, it was a giant fricking laser gun from the Archetects that shot it down.
@@PhillyCh3zSt3ak It is pretty lame how aggressive some of his titles are, like they're often just "It's your fault [insert tragedy in a game] happened!"
It is lowkey annoying, especially how in this case he's wrong.. I saw a comment here from Erich Degurechaff that I agree with:
"You KILLED..." I didn't kill nothing. The player wasnt the pilot and the Architects that created the weapon that shoot the Aurora, how could any human know about it?"
@@LoinkLoink is it my fault the tomato town massacre happened?
It kinda reminds me of the guy who made a video complaining about how "fake" the evolution of the wildlife was, and about 1/4th of the way through it was clear he either didn't play the game or didn't touch his PDA entries
I like how the comment section is split into two groups. 1 group disproving Mats theory on the subject of doing more harm than good considering subnauticas world seems far more advance than us. The 2nd half is PTSD victims of the game saying "yeah I killed the planet what about it?"
Matpat might be at a lost for this theory, who knows. People are making amazing points of this theory and I honestly think this theory is wrong.
@@thegr8leo5theunfunnyman44 yea its wrong
@@thegr8leo5theunfunnyman44 that’s why it’s called a theory
Yeah this is probably another theory like his Hollow knight one
@@bat6684 A theory that can be debunked by someone like me who has never played the game and only seen a couple videos about it is not a "theory", it's talking bs.
Just a quick edit: Matt, I'm sure no one means to bash your message (hopefully at least), but there were a few key details missing in your theory. that being said, I think another game that could also serve to help the message is Raft Survival as it's a little closer to home. Keep up the good work, your episodes are always really gripping to watch!
Lore-wise it would actually be incorrect to say that it's the human's fault for causing the pollution in the first place. *SPOILER WARNING, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED OF THE SPOILER*
The crash was caused by the architect's global defense system. So while yes the human's brought the trash and other pollutants to 4546b, it was by no means their fault, per say. That being said, you forgot to mention the other ship that gets shot down, if you don't disable the global defense system in time, and all the pollutants that get brought along with it.
The sad part is this isn't even that huge of a spolier it happens super early and matt should have know this.
(a couple of things)
In the game, in order to actually leave the planet, you need to repair the drive core, which means no more radiation.
Even if the bottles are plastic, they're stuck at the bottom of the ocean by the containers, as none are floating around, and only a human can open the containers.
There is no life around the Aroura's crash site to feed on the plastic, as rabbit tails are veggie-eaters, and the reaper is so large that it would likely ignore the tiny bottles.
A reaper is by the tail end of the crash site, meaning that it is highly likely that the Aurora is completely fine to be around, even with all the negative effects.
There are many underground areas that would not feel the affects of sediment displacement, radiation, or pollution.
If the destruction from the Aurora is so bad, then why isn't all life extinct from the Degasi, seeing as it had ample time to kill anything around it, but didn't and is flourishing with sealife.
If the destruction from the Aurora is so bad, then why is there life hanging around the remains of Sunbeam, seeing as it got the BFG treatment?
Even if all life on the crater is killed, life on 4546b will go on, by simple notion that the entire game takes place on what's basically a flooded continent surrounded by 'the void', allowing for life at the equator, void life, and whatever other areas there could be like the crater to continue on outside this chernobyl-like area of inhospitability.
(I'll see if I can add more in edits, but this is what I got rn, so enjoy)
@@TheEmeraldPixel The sad truth of the game is, you don't actually need to fix the drive core. The only thing that is mandatory from the Aurora is the Neptune Rocket. Fixing the drive core merely makes the game more convenient, and is actually not needed to win the game.
Speaking of which, perhaps the reason that the radiation doesn't go that far is because the materials they use for power is MUCH shorter than the thing that MatPat mentioned?
Rip sunbeam
@@TheEmeraldPixel You know, I totally forgot about the Degasi crash. And speaking of other crashes, you could even bring up the other crashed ships from Below Zero. If I remember correctly, they've been there even longer than the Degasi ship has and landed in similar locations as the Aurora and life is still flourishing around it. This one isn't even a spoiler either because the devs posted about it when they added it.
as a subnautica fan, I am in pain watching this
Same
Subnautica is literally my favorite game ever, and this video absolutely infuriated me
@@zachplaysallday-zpad5731i am wheezing reading these comments. Lil bro doesnt know A that we arent responsible for the crash B we stopped radiation a whole asz desiese and that the creatures of Subnautica arent affected by radiation or that the crator or Subnautica map is such a small percentage of the planet like did bro do his research. I know my spelling and grammar is horrible😭
same
@@Samuele-hm2jv I knew I was In for it when he called the degasi ship tge aurora
So, I enjoy subnautica and I'll correct a couple of points. The map is actually in the middle of an inactive volcano that forms a bowl. The reason there's such a massive dead zone around the map has more to do with the death of certain leviathans well before the player's and not because of the crash or radiation. Also, they hint that where the Aurora crashes was actually originally above water and gets leveled as a result of the crash, so the damage to ocean life is lessened. Also, as far as radiation is concerned, water is a good shield. That's not to say there will be no impact, but probably not that much and once it's gone, it's gone, unlike oil. And as far as the plastics are concerned, that's not great, but it's the least of that ocean's problems.
Diseases can cause ecological destruction
@@johnathanegbert9277 its okay we cured them ;D
@@butters6795 b-but...
I never played Subnautica
All good, minus the part about radiation going away easier than oil.
Look up how absurdly long it takes for typical radiation leaks to fade away, how far their effects can pass from one generation to the next, and the severity of those genetic defects.
The planet would likely survive, but the damage would be far, FAR greater than how its depicted in-game.
And didn’t the radiation leak get fixed?
You forgot to mention the only reason why there was so much trash was because the quarantine blaster shot both the aurora and the degassi ship, forcing them to crash land and not just land. The architects caused the infection to go world wide because they stole a sea dragon egg, and underestimated its motherly powers. Causing all the rest to go extinct. So it’s their fault not ours :)
Exactly. Can't blame humanity for this one. Blame the Architects that used the planet as a petri dish (the disease isn't even native to the planet), and set up an orbital cannon that doesn't even warn approaching ships that the planet is quarantined (and given hints in game, and especially the sequel the Architects were absolutely capable of communicating) before blasting them out of the sky.
Not only did we get shot down but were we even trying to land on the planet to begin with? It's been awhile since I last played but I was under the impression we were passing by and the laser shot us because we got too close to the planet.
@@eviljoshy3402 nah the aurora was trying to land on the planet, their alternate mission was to look for the other ship that mysteriously disappeared on the planet too
@@eviljoshy3402 We had a side mission to look for the missing in action Degasi which was *shot down by the Architects* without warning by passing over and scanning that planet without landing unless we found something. Then we got *shot down without warning by the Architects*. Then the Sunbeam picked up our distress signal and came to help.... only to be *shot down without warning... by the Architects*... I'm seeing a pattern here.
@@sonichegehodge5778 If I undestand the lore right, the Aurora was going to gravity swing around the planet while secretly dropping the search team onto the planet from orbit. I don't think the Aurora intended to actually land.
Remember the Sunbeam crew saying they've never parked a rig that big on a rock that small? Well, the Sunbeam is a lot smaller than the Aurora. I don't think the Aurora is even capable of landing on planets.
"You KILLED..." I didn't kill nothing. The player wasnt the pilot and the Architects that created the weapon that shoot the Aurora, how could any human know about it?
@Videoms I wouldn't say noble, since they were only trying to cure the bacteria because it almost killed them all, and they found the bacteria when they were exploring and probably exploiting the resources of other planets
I don't see anyone else strapped with a biblical bill for the destruction of the Aurora and misuse of its materials. :P
Idk but still later updates to the game make you understand more about the architects.So i guess in a way subnautica really never told us about it.
@@nigelxd3735 actually, when playing the second game (spoilers)
Alan mentioned that the reason why they were looking for a cure was due to the fact that they’re bodies are made up of different species. If it can effect the architects … a galaxy can get infected as well. So I would say it is a noble cause, but of course more story stuff in the second game it is revealed why the research was messed up
Matpat:if you are close to the explosion you die instantly. Everybody with a brain : WELL NO F**KING SH*T
I was so confused. yes of course you die when you are standing in an explosion, whats your point MatPat?
wait i wanna test this in game i dont know if it does lol
You assume that the futuristic ship wouldn't have more food then just packaged powder meals? They literally can make a building in seconds and can probably cook just as easily.
They had nutrient blocks
Ya, this isn't his best theory. It's like he completely forgot the existence of the gun.
@@Sly-Moose in the game it tells you the only weapon you can make is the basic knife
@@Lodada He was talking about the orbital battery that shoot down the Aurora, Degasi, Sunbeam and Mercury II.
@@Ioncareboutts yeah, i didnt say that they didnt have packaged stuff like that, but i fail to believe that its all they ate.
I have to heavily disagree with this it’s not the player’s fault it goes back further than that, you forgot to mention a few things.
The Aurora would of never crashed if it wasn’t shot down by the “Quarantine Enforcement Platform” made by the what GameTheory called “The Architects” I’m going to call them the “precursors” because that’s what I’m used to saying.
Okay anyways the Aurora never would have stopped by planet 4546B the planet subnautica takes place in if the Degasi spacecraft before was never shot down. The Aurora’s primary mission was to construct phase gates, but it’s second was to search for the survivors of the Degasi years earlier similar to how Sunbeam tries to rescue you in the earlier parts of the game. Similar to Sunbeam and the Aurora the Degasi was shot down by Quarantine Enforcement Playform which was made by the precursors.
The precursors made the facility to prevent any incoming and outgoing spacecraft from carrying the Kharaa Bacteria outside the planet. So technically it’s the precursor’s fault not the player’s fault also how would the player be at fault for the ship crashing?
Technically the Quarantine Enforcement Platforn never would have been activated if the Kharaa bacteria never escaped from the Disease research facility made by the precursors when it was attacked by a sea dragon leviathan and then collapsed to the sea floor.
That might make you think that no, it was that leviathan’s fault, but actually no. The precursors took one of the leviathan’s eggs and then leviathan was trying to get it back and ended up realizing the bacteria, forcing the precursors to activate the Quarantine Enforcement Platform leading to the events seen in the game.
Sorry if that was a long one.
Perfectly explained
MatPat really didn't do his research. 🤣
Soooooooooo
blame the stupid xenos?
Blame the Xenos
@@Sly-Moose never does
I love game theory but mat you really missed with this one. It doesn’t sound like you played the game? I love and support the causes you’re doing but if you wanted to do a video on garbage and the sea then you should’ve done the game Raft, there is literally no trash in this game, no nutrients bars had wrappers, they came in mental boxes or where laying around in the Aurora. No items in the game besides native and natural material in the game can float about (besides metal salvage) also, batteries were ALL inside metal boxes so they couldn’t leak either. The game has Fabricators, a big thing that debunks much of what you said, and how things are made and… fabricated.
You mentioned that the Aurora’s crash should have been bigger then it initially was and so was the explosion? In the PDA the Captan of the ship and stayed on and didn’t take a life pod just so that the crash wouldn’t be as bad as you said it was supposed to be. Yes, Aurora Corp is a greedy and evil company and take awful care of there employees but dang, they really were careful with taking care of a ocean planet, one a few Aurora Corp employees have been to before.
You take about think game as if it’s taken place during OUR time in the universe, you statement about the waste and nothing on fabricators REALLY makes me think you didn’t play the game. This theory just felt like some cop out video to get out there, just make a quick video and get it out fast, type of video… sounded and felt dishonest or half assed…
Again loved the channel and the cause you are doing but this game has so much potential for other “theory’s” really if you wanted one that is relevant to the cause then you should’ve done it on Raft.
Also edit: another thing to point out, it wasn’t the players fault you crash landed into the planet, we were shot out. I think the area where the player themselves might have caused a problem is disabling the tower that shot the Aurora out of orbit, making so anything else can go in and out of the planet and carry the disease in and out of it spreading it to somewhere else or other planets. That is unless by that time the Sea Emperors kids haven’t already spread the cure around, killing the diseases completely or mostly
Good comment, but for your last point I think it’s fine because they can nab enzyme 42 at anytime.
@@Wheatly_Labs yeah agreed
The quarantine enforcement platform will not let you disable it unless you cure yourself first
@@krofgninut5984 yeah, i never said it didn’t tho
Why did you write an entire essay bro
if I remember correctly, the AURORA's captain PDA states he remained in the ship to land it in one piece ( aka controlled emergency landing )
Yes, the Captain stayed on board to make sure the Aurora's crash was minimised as much as possible. He transfers responsibility to Officer Keen, effectively making him de facto captain in his place
"YOU doomed the planet"
Correction, the aliens weapons which shot down our ship doomed the planet
@Soldier [TF2] gets more clicks ig
you deserve way more likes
this is strangely hilarious
Truth
BROTHER I AM PINNED HERE
it's shot down at least two more ships too...
I have played this game and I can honestly say that this theory was kind of a swing and a miss in a way, for example:
-the ecosystem (proven in the game) is NOT delicate at all.
-the ship was shot down by the alien species who ALSO invaded the planet and then tried to save other planets by putting 4546B on lockdown.
-the food doesn’t have containers (obvious from the beginning of the game).
-the pilot stayed back and guided the ship in order to avoid everything you just said.
-there are creatures in the game who are resistant to radiation.
-the time this takes place is WAY in the future so most of this may not apply anyways (especially since it’s on an alien planet and it just might not work the same than on Earth.
-and finally everything you make in the game is made from material taken straight out of the ocean (and was there before the player except for scrap metal and scan parts)
So in other words, I think you should go back and play the whole game, then actually research and not use Earth logic on an alien planet, and try this again. But other than that I do love this channel I just think this one needs a revisit.
Indeed
Some of the Degasi voice logs hint at Earth society being way more ecologically friendly in game. I doubt plastics and waste would be much of an issue.
He did that to teach us a lesson on how our actions will effect our planet, not just subnautica.
@@NexLegacyAccount And one of the logs (the one for the cuddlefish I think) mentions that dolphins are extinct so....
This video has an agenda. Not even saying it's a bad agenda, but the facts and logic are being skewed to come to a desired conclusion.
in this video, the videogame itself was a pretext to talk about our oceans and marine ecosystems. the message itself is commendable, but you've dragged the game in the mud by using absolutely wrong information about it. this game is coherent and worth playing. Thankfully, plenty of comments have already explained why.
I enjoyed subnatica so much! And I really enjoyed it even if I did just stay in the safe zone because I was terrified, I watched somebody else play it and I loved it it was sad to see it get dragged through the mud like that.
Are you new here? Dragging media from the mud is Mat Pat's special technique.
Mattpat was only talking about what realistically would happen if the Subnautica scenario happened in real life, or if it was scientifically accurate. That is the theory.
That doesn't mean that Mattpat told the developers that their game has to reflect real life. That's not the case at all.
@@L16htW4rr10r I mean i totally get what you're saying but.. this one was a bit forced
@@frederikgjernrosenberg868 Fair point
I feel like Alterra was probably able to find some kind of biodegradable polymer to use as a replacement for plastic. Especially since in real life we’re getting closer basically every day.
They probably use a variant of bladderfish from a safer planet
Yeah, the water bottles disappear after you eat them, and after the impact you use bladderfish to make water bottles, so chances are you eat the water bottle regardless
@@MSKofAlexandriathe bottles might even be nutritious, cause bladderfish are fully edible, and a bottle only needs a single bladderfish, soooooo. And maybe they turn the bladderfishes skeleton for the bottle, and other things to make it edible
I've seen many people point out many problems with this theory, but as yet I haven't seen anyone point out that the amount of packaging waste for the food is grossly overestimated. Matt is assuming that every single meal the crew eats, everyday, for three years, is packaged, when that would be completely inefficient and impractical. It would be much more likely that the Aurora had gardens onboard where the food was grown and refrigerators where it was stored, either mitigating or completely eliminating the amount of packaging required.
Overall, I love the cause your promoting, but the theory used is lacking. And because the theory is lacking, your message means less because it makes it seem like you're just pushing an agenda and not laying out an argument for why, which is off-putting.
Not only that! There are FABRICATORS in this game. Did he even play it? The amount of misunderstood concepts in this video is astounding. The game is science fiction, way into the future. He compares every aspect of it as if it happened today with no knowledge whatsoever of the fictional universe he's speaking of. I mean, I'm all for promoting green initiatives, but it's like he played for 5 minutes and then tried to make everything fit into his script that has nothing to do with the game at all.
There is no theory
Sub zero retcons the whole thing.
Even the little leviathan babies make it to sub zero.
What? There's NO WAY that THE one and only Mat "which fictional character would survive the Coronavirus better than your loved one" Pat wouldn't POSSIBLY use a popular worldwide topic to squeeze out some eazy views and revenue!!
And nutrient blocks dont even have packaging and they were the main food on the ship
This is standard in most Game Theory videos. Since they have to satisfy the youtube mandated production line, they don't have time to do real research and are trapped in the confirmation bias (You will always find evidance to support your hypothesis if you really look for it). These are fun videos but ultimately very harmful due to teaching people the exact reversal of the scientific method. I still love the channel ofc.
Every time I see the footage of a player swimming near the aurora my anxiety kicks in
*That's where THEORISTS has gone*
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Distant roaring intensifies.
And the you hear the roars. When you hear it it’s too late
Same bro
i used to have the same thing but I am a Subnautica sweat, basically invincible, so it's less scary to me
Matpat, I love you, but this video was not researched properly, the "tsunami" that you talked about happened in the OG trailer for the game (I think it's canonical, even though you don't see it in the game)
I don’t think that trailer is canon, because of the Jelly ray in the shallows and the sea emperor in the shallows.
@@Payne329 I think that was just to build up hype, and the devs didn't know where to put a major plot point in the safe shallows anyway
@@thatguyrock5416 You are correct.
“Humans are about to destroy the planet”
Well it was the architects who built the weapon that shot down the aurora in the first place soooo….
Feels like a theory made to fit TeamSeas rather than an organic creation.
the entire video was made in the name of teamseas
Which is hilarious because subnautica literally already has environmental messaging he just straight up ignored.
@@vadernation1233yeah like I’ve said several times this guy probably didn’t get the “getting your feet wet” achievement
i feel like if i put 15 crab squids into the starter zone the environment would kinda die
I think matpat forgot the part where a giant gun on the planet shot the ship down and caused us to crash in the first place so it's not entirely our fault
its his persona 4 theory all over again
@Aisuru-Tokyo💕 sorry but epic gamers dont monster bait on November
Yeah. The ship crashing was not our fault. It was the ancients who have doomed the planet because they made the gun. Maybe it was a good thing they died. Besides they all think we are interior anyway
Yeaaaaa, it's not our fault at all. Alterra, as we learn, is a shitty company that exploits any and everything for it's resources, but that's not relevant to the occasion. The Aurora just happens to be shot down while passing by a planet on a route not involving it and get shot done by a gun made by an alien race that has done only harm for the planet.
@@lucaswold5327 The reason they made the gun was for a quarantine they thought the planet was a lost cause and installed it so it couldn't spread
Subnautica fans: you are not the whole circus you are the entire company
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Considering how deep other theories dig, I'm kinda surprised how shallow this one was. From replicators removing the need for most packaging to the fact that the water bottles are made of organic materials to the relatively tiny amount of material the Aurora brought to the planet to the 'semi-controlled' landing the captain achieved to minimize impact damage. The crash would certainly have an impact on the ecology for sure but you could probably dump 100 Aurora's onto the planet and have less impact on 4546B than we've had on Earth and we're still around (though for how much longer is debatable).
I get you were making a tie-in episode but it was disappointing that it was done with such a surface-level theory on a great game.
True, true.
he needed da moni
at least its not his superhot theory
Right, if he wanted to shove in an ecology theory, he could have played that crappy Endless Ocean game and talked about almost the same stuff. That would make sense since that game actually takes place in the human world
He uses this game for nothing but a dpringboard to talk about what he wanted to talk about.
Earths ocean polution problem.
Which is something that needs to be talked about!
But there are much better games and themes to use as a springboard then subnautica.
Y’all say there are better games for him to do this theory with but let’s be real. You probably would not have watched this without subnautica’s name slapped on the title of the vid.
The problem with this theory is you assume this civilization has made no advancements in manufacturing technology, also the whole map in subnautica is on top of a island in the middle of a massive super deep ocean. The most that would be hurt beyond the island is a few ghost leviathans.
I mean, i See no contamination agents in those alien tech things.
The entire planet isn't ONE crater (That's where you play, inside a crater, not an island) and then just an infinitely deep ocean full of NOTHING but ghost leviathans. That's what's IMMEDIATELY around the crater.
Beyond that is other ecosystems and lots of life.
And they have made advancements in manufacturing, obviously. They can now make plastic bottles in the field as well. So..... yeah, don't pretend Alterra CARES about the environment.
And the theory doesn't even account for most of the planet being water - greatly diluting the radiation.
@@Groovemonkey-pd4ht Heck, he doesn't even account for the nature of the radiation leak. All the evidence points to a leak of ACTUAL RADIATION, not radioactive materials. That's worlds different and he should know better. He even glossed over the key evidence as if it were nothing (You seal up the reactor and the radiation disappears).
@@haku8135 AKA a Caldera
Matpat in this video: hes got the spirit, but maybe he needs a little more knowledge about the game before assuming trash contaminates this crater on 4546B.
#Teamseas
I agree with you. When i saw this on r/subnautica about mat basically just throwing away the basic evidence of what really happened is frieghtening
@@chessnutz6314 just like how alterra said about the secret aurora mission... i think i just found something about alterra and mat...
@@Pyth_Gamig1324 lol, you looking for mat senpai?
Yeah he forgets there was a ship before the Aroura and how all the plastic bottle on-ship are in sealed crates and the Aroura's leak being seal unlike Chernobyl's
MatPat- "you killed the planet!"
Me- "ah yes one crater on a volcanois the entire planet"
This entire video was such a huge stretch. It assumes that everything hundreds of years in the future is exactly the same as now. Which I consider to be incredibly short-sighted in a video parading around as science-based. Yea, I know that pointing out that subnautica is sci-fi is like protecting something with plot armor, but comparing a space craft from the end of the 22nd century to how NASA is currently getting to Mars is so bizarre and ridiculous.
and also, WE never intended to crash nor land on the ALIEN planet, how the hell would he know that a completely alien species would suffer ill effects of radiation? hell, the ship crashed right in an ecosystem with predators loitering literally around the crash site and are still kicking... or should I say, biting YOU.
And what's more, there practically 0 plastic on the ship, only synthetic plastic and the rest is literally titanium junk and blueprints, and what's more it was an alien orbital defense system that shot down the ship
Aside from the fact that subnatica is set in the far future, making any conclusions drawn from our current technologies shaky at best, there are a few facts established in the game that throw Matt's conclusions into doubt.
First, the existence of the fabricators means that food can be prepared to order without individual packaging, and that such packaging can be reused repeatedly and easily. This, combined with the fact that most small items on board the ship would be incinerated instead of released, makes his estimate of the amount of trash released by the crash laughable.
Second, the sheer number of crashes that have happened on this planet without destroying it's ecosystems any more than the Karaa has puts his conclusion that the Aurora's crash is devastating into doubt.
MatPat: "You killed the planet"
Me who knows the lore of this game and below zero: "Have you even played the game, no no I didn't."
I honestly think this is an excuse to promote team seas there's a lot wrong with this theory.
it is all an advert he cobbled together a half assed comparison
@@johnhenry6113 yes
It's one of the few Game Theory videos they've done that is a stretch from beginning to end. Improper research killed this one.
Yeah, I was so upset with this theory. I WAS SO HAPPY TO SEE A SUBNAUTICA ONE TOO
It’s definitely important to promote team seas, and a subnautica theory would have been amazing (what actually are the architects, what makes Kharaa so dangerous, how warpers work, etc) but it was a very… meh comparison instead. Like the message of saving our oceans but the theory is really… not his best
9:28 actually copper is only dangerous if ingested at big amounts, those batteries shouldn't be a big deal
"Humanity killed 4546 b! Just like we do everything!"
Pretty sure that fault still lies on the dead alien race that thought it was a great idea to build an automated planitary defense cannon network that shoots down the Aurora. Oh, as well as the second ship that responds to our SOS beacon.
And the Degasi. Oh, and the Mercury II. Also, they introduced the disease to the planet in the first place.
Yeah not have like a big siren going off or anything
wth
Not to mention that in addition to this orbital battery not giving any warning, they were the ones who released the Kharaa bacterium onto the planet, which caused massive deaths in the local biosphere and forced it to adapt to the bacterium.
@@noobstalker1 Well the aliens communicate through radio waves of some kind, maybe the alarm is just on a frequency we don't use.
I feel the need to point out some flaws in the expelled supply estimate. First of all, all of the supplies of the Aurora weren't expelled by the crash and explosion, as you can still find a lot in the areas of the ship that you can reach, with an unknown quantity within the inaccessible areas. Secondly, the Aurora wasn't the first ship to crash. The Degasi crashed almost a decade before that, and there aren't catastrophes stemming from that. Then there's also the fact that flora and fauna can be absurdly adaptable and resilient. You've got a pair of leviathans patrolling in close proximity to a lethal radioactive source seemingly unharmed, not to mention lizards that bathe in LAVA. Heck, you don't even need to look far to see strange adaptations. Tardigrades, for example, can survive radiation, extreme pressures both high and low, extreme temperatures, and even being exposed to outer space.
And as others have pointed out, the Aurora's captain stayed until the end, attempting an emergency landing, as well as the fact we don't know what the crash zone previously looked like, but is suggested to have prehaps been landmass (or at least very shallow).
It's also not completely Aurora's fault, the Architects didn't really plan things through when they just stuck a giant gun on the planet that shoots anything that comes close, because of "quarantine", as opposed to setting up a forcefield or something.
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I was about to say it was mostly because of the architects for putting a massive gun that shoots anything that gets close
its not that the architects didnt plan correctly, the gun was supposed to strand you on the planet as to prevent spreading of the bacteria to other planets. they thought dooming that planet was better then letting many planets get infected. but yeah a forcefield would be much better, but would also inspire hypotethical "space pirates" to break through it
@@Chromus505 then make laser with a range that doesn't extend past the forcedfield
“You killed the ecosystem on planet 4546 b”
Me who almost had a good damn heart attack the time I turned around and a Reaper was charging me: good
@J͓̽u͓̽l͓̽i͓̽a͓̽n͓̽a͓̽_______💋 no.
the reaper:you've killed me.....
everyone:good
Not to mention the fact that we didn’t kill it. The Architects did with their giant cannon and diseases.
@@AstroSalamander Just report it, there's nothing else to do about it but hope TH-cam does something.
@@mimikyu4327 oh yeah i know its just fun to occasionally let my megachad energy flow a tiiiiny bit
What happened was that the pilot of the Aurora guided the aurora down to safely land it after the turret shot it down. It can be assumed that with how little damage there is, he landed it safely and successfully at the cost of his own life. There's actually an audio file that proves this, the captain talking to the co-captain about attempting to safely land the aurora whilst mid attempt.
I must agree with others who say this theory was dissapointing and inaccurate. I really love the game and it deserves better researched theory.
It was just a excuse to talk about our ocean. Fair enough but that planet is far from doomed xD
@@Roberta-yf4ge That planet is already 99% dead because of the kaarar bacterium.
@@Roberta-yf4gehaha yeah, unlike ours ;-;
I agree very much. Subnautica has some of the biggest lore I’ve seen in any game. I love this game so much and I think if he could research this game heavily. He would have many more content on this game.
One of the biggest misconceptions about ship wreckege is the paint. Red paint on the ships are especially there for poisoning animas such as barnacles. Because they are damaging the ship and they are traveling with it to literally everywhere and spreading . But spaceships doesnt need to consider something like that and doesnt has that kind of paint on them. So it would be much less impact on the ecology of the crashzone.
However, they are going to an aquatic planet. They don't know what's on the planet, however, most likely, they wouldn't.
@@gameypiettvgamergames7463 The Aurora and Degasi crews never intended to land on the planet. Both were attempting slingshot maneuvers to change course to somewhere else. The only reason why the Aurora and Degasi are on the planet is because of the *_GIANT ALIEN GUN_* that maintains the quarantine.
@@Dingus_Khaan I mean, the Aurora did have the secondary purpose of landing on the planet to investigate the disappearance of the Degasi but even then I agree with you that I'm pretty sure that the Aurora never planned to land on the planet instead sending a few cyclopes, (hate that plural form) seamoths, and prawn suits to investigate the crater. We see that in one of the PDAs in a wreck and of course the presence of aquatic vehicles in the first place.
@@flershnork Weren't they going to *scan* the planet, not land on it?
@@captaingoomba6907 Scan it, and if they found any evidence of the Degasi, likely send some seamoths or P.R.A.W.Ns down to investigate.
Also want to mention to the commenter above, the Aurora didn't have a Cyclops bay to our knowledge, and the Cyclops isn't operable in space like the seamoth and P.R.A.W.N suits are.
so...
who's gonna tell him that almost everything he said was harmful on the aruora was sealed in airtight, watertight boxes you find in game?
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My thoughts exactly!
Also it’s not earth how does he know how other plants and animals work
@@JohnPikeman wdym earth?
Most of those are brokenwhen you find them however for they are still in the box most of the time or at least nearby
Another thing that was missed, he gives a food calculation based on the fact that it has been dehydrated , yet I distinctly recall their being a cafe of sorts with items like soda and vending machines onboard.
Matpat makes theory, ignoring things like “controlled descent”, lore of the game, how detonation on Aurora occurred , size of a map and He made ship crush OUR fault, creating feeling about this video being no more than an ad.
AND he said that there's just food and water floating around... You get food and water from the environment not floating debris
@@saiyanfang1047 yeah but you can still find nutrient blocks and water bottles in wrecks or in the aurora
@@LuisFelipe-jb1bq Not floating around in the ocean, because Matpat didn't play the game
@@saiyanfang1047he also said theres no land when he was talking about subnautica, but we do know that there are islands in the game
@@LuisFelipe-jb1bqthey are made out of bio matter, they are fully degradable, in no moment we have acess to any sort of petroleum, the highest damaging matter we lay our hands on is uranium, which we can discard in a proper containment
Now I don’t know a lot about the science behind this but I have played Subnautica. Now first off the bottles are metal not plastic. And our character didn’t solve the Kharaa virus the aliens actually did they couldn’t communicate with the sea emperor the one able to give the recipe for the hatching enzymes in order to hatch the sea emperors eggs. The emperor also mentions that the architects hurt it in some way and after not being able to communicate actually stopped trying because it held a grudge on them and refused to help them. The architects set up the peeper system to heal the wildlife to keep the planet alive. The Aurora wasn’t the first ship to crash land on the planet. And they didn’t crash on purpose because the architect laser made them due to the quarantine on the planet. And the area that you play in is actually a volcano and is a crater. It is clear that is isolated from the other parts of the planet and their ecosystems. And even though companies don’t have a good track record with caring for the environment the company that made the Aurora is designed for space travel and exploration you don’t hear any lore about other planets they have visited but I am sure with all that they have made they have learned how to affect the planet in the most little way possible even if their ships land and leak radiation everywhere. This is a Sci-fi game don’t critique it on the tech we have today. If you want to hear a good critic on this game and the flaws that it has I would recommend to watch Joseph Anderson’s critique on it. Because he at least went a little deeper into the lore of the game before giving it a critique like this.
little right little wrong, the Emperor actually specifies she couldn't communicate with the Architects (likely due to their bodies not being organic like ours and thus their consciousnesses not being within her reach telepathically) and they were unable to force the incubation, They never hurt the Emperor but also didn't actively help the situation either. The peeper system also was NOT done by the Architects, the system the peepers use is for water cycling like for air and the like the peepers which are within game lore rather smart actually, just realized they could also use the system and the emperor used them to spread what little help it could.
You be thor and ill be odin
You rodent am omnipotent
@@biosaber585 Your right in the sea emperor didn’t get hurt and I knew that she couldn’t communicate with them maybe I forgot to mention that. But I know do remember where I got that they hurt the sea emperor they took one of the eggs and forcibly hatched it. I am pretty sure you can find the body in the last base. I have always seen this as why she doesn’t give the recipe for the hatching enzymes. Because she states after opening the teleported that she gives you the secret that the others couldn’t force from her. This to me makes it sound that she couldn’t communicate with them but could at least somehow give them the enzymes idk just my theory on the situation. And I had no clue about the vent thing so thank you.
@@nightinvestigations5273 no problem. You're correct they did forcibly hatch an egg however I never took her to be malicious over this act, maybe its just how we all interpret things.
@@biosaber585 I definitely think it’s up to interpretation because the game is kinda unclear with it. And both outcomes are totally viable in the story.
I think MatPat should play this game first, go through all the lore then remake this video
He's gotten so bad over the past 6 years
I mean playing the game before doing any lore finding makes things alot clearer
@@TheScaryman1945 I know right
@@TheScaryman1945 For me it started with the For Honor theory. I've always been somewhat of a history buff, and being able to recognise several *huge* mistakes and oversights in the video with what i'd learned on my own, via just straight up class or other, actually informed channels, i couldn't bear to watch it more than once.
And, of course, when kid me realised MatPat wasn't infallable, he started to notice problems in almost all the new theories being posted. Quickly stopping watching the channel and never looking back apart from the occasional time he popped into my recommendations.
This one i had to see for myself, both because of the TeamSeas involvement and because i love Subnautica.
Shame on him. This video is an embarrassment.
Ya'll remember the hollow knight vid he made? This reminds me of that.
This is maybe the only theory that Matpat got absolutely wrong, yes, the crash maybe did do something bad, but this video released when we already knew about Below Zero! And that game proves the planet is much bigger!
This theory was a snooze button. It really felt like you had a powerful environmental message to share and then kinda grafted it onto the only game that made tangential sense. Usually I love your theories but this one was a miss.
*You missed! How did you miss!? He was like 3 feet in front of you!*
That made sense
Raft: am I a joke to you
I typically like MatPat's theories. And imagine my giddiness when I seen he was talking about Subnautica, one of my favorite games. But this on....yeah I'm very disappointed in it. It's not MatPat's fault, he's just the face of the channel. It's his writers.
We aren't the first humans to arrive as it's made clear by the Degrassi bases. Also we CRASHED. This video made it sound like we intentionally came there to dump our trash on some kind of suicide mission. The water bottles are actually metal as it's more durable than plastic. We have them in the real world. This is also an inactive volcano and thus the radiation and destruction is quite minimal as opposed to say where Below Zero takes place. We are also applying real world biomechanics to aliens. Most are pretty resilient aside from the Kaaras. I mean look at the Reaper and Ghost Leviathans and even the smaller buggers like the sand sharks. They hang out near the Aurora. The GLs lurk outside the volcano because they're too massive to be elsewhere. Their babies is located IN the volcano. Even if you didn't make it far game, you can gather at least this much when Sunbeam gets shot out of the sky by the QSC as it tries to rescue you.
The Artilects aren't the villains' either. Just misguided in their desperation. And when you're desperate, you tend to do more morally questionable things than you normally would consider. The Sea Emperor couldn't reach them telepathically. They had some kind of barrier preventing her. She says this much at the end game. She doesn't control when they hatch, just when THEY want to when certain conditions are met. Like when animals keep their eggs until more food is available. You just can't force them (incubate vs setting them on fire). I don't think they mistreated her per say. Just a lack of communication between them.
I can go on but I've already sent a giant wall of text.
Her enclosure was kinda small tbf
@Suzu Ichinose hi
@@gimbit7583 your sad.
@@gimbit7583 down bad
The Degasi also crashed, because of the giant alien laser gun as well. None of us wanted to be there. And you'd think in the time between now and space travel and phasegates and spaceship cafes, we'd have figured out some more eco friendly solutions to the things mentioned in the video. He's putting modern research and modern tech and modern problems to a futuristic space ship and it's debris.
And I don't think it's an accident that the game doesn't mention what little damage the Aurora ACTUALLY did, Alterra is a company that's pretty much futuristic Nestle/ EA, they want money, and don't care what ecosystem or people get hurt getting it. So it makes sense our PDA AI don't mention any damage we do to the environment, because she ultimately doesn't care.
I could also go on, but the main point is that this theory doesn't hold up all too well, but in his defense I think he was just trying to make a water pollution game theory for team seas and since there aren't many games that we care about that actually talk or give proper evidence of water pollution, Mat pat and his writers just had to stretch some ingame lore into a theory.
I would like to remind everyone that it was the alien gun that shot the aurora down, all the crew was attempting to do was to use 4546B as a gravity slingshot, to get around the planet to get to their next destination. So it's not our fault.
EDIT: Thanks for all the likes everyone! I appreciate it
lets not forget that the majority of the planet is a ecological deadzone already
Exactly, it’s not our fault, if the aliens wanted a clean world, then they shouldn’t have put a hyper velocity rail gun to snipe every in high orbit.
@@theanathema3062 iirc, they made the gun to keep people from getting to the planet and leaving with the possibility of spreading the kharaa. They knew it was a lost cause at this point, so they took preventative measures to ensure the same didn't happen to another planet.
I was about to mention that, yeah. Maybe if the Architects weren’t such dicks to the Sea Emperor stealing her eggs and whatnot, they could’ve gotten enzyme 42, cured the planet and wouldn’t have had to build the QEP that shot the Degassi and Aurora down.
I completely agree. They talk about that on the second game. The Architects set up the quarantine on the planet to study the effect of the virus plaguing their own people. When the virus got out they built the ray gun to ensure no other planets were infected. We are not the first ship that's been shot down! We see two different ships, the Aurora and the Sunbeam so the odds of there being infinitely more ships buried somewhere is increasingly likely. So while yes, we are damaging the ecosystem, but we were never meant to be there in the first place. However, by crash landing, we find the cure and stop the virus thus preventing any more ships from being shot down and damaging the planet further, thus saving the planet in the end.
matpat: the planet is dead!
me who just kills leviathans for fun: i know, and i enjoy it.
Matthew Patthew: you killed the planet!
the entire subnautica community: you are not a clown, you are the entire circus
Maybe Matpat should have thought about this before doing this, I honestly don't know what was going through his mind unless he wanted to get insulted😐.
@@jediclarke 💯
Bro never left the safe shallows.
Bro never left the life pod
Original comment was:
Bro never left the trailer
I hope he dosent do a similar theory on any 2d Metroid games ending
The water bottles might be made of iron.
You just need 1 bladder fish to make a bottle of water.
No plastic needed in crafting, meaning the bottle is made up of something in the fish's body.
Perhaps a amalgam of calcium and iron.
Or that's just to prevent it from looking like we're straight sucking water out of the bladder fish
or the fish's skin
mabye the leftover bones
The bottles actually made of a thin steel
@@mrbreadcat9969 if its made from metal it would be rather titanium than steel
"Happened to crash land"
*Gets shot down by alien Anti Space laser*
Seriously like play the game first then go over the lore
@@potatoman9872 ikr
14:46 reapers, sand sharks and stalkers: I'll ignore that
I get what you are trying to do here, but you should have actually played the game. For the water bottles, they have a fancy space magic tech that allows them to build things at the nano-scale from raw materials. So, to get water you basically put in a fish. There weren't any hydrocarbon raw plastics involved. For all we know, the 'bottles' are biodegradable and simply made from the leftover fish bits. As for the reactor, while it's true that early on the radiation is an issue, as you can fix the reactor this limits the issue. Also, while the starship is certainly big, even with a crew of 150+ and all the stuff they would need to survive 3 years it's going to be a local ecological problem, not a global one. If it were a global issue then Earth would have long ago died off. Even the nuclear reactor, if it explodes and sits there for centuries rotting away and spilling out highly radioactive particles is not going to be world ending, merely a nasty local issue. You are translating what billions of humans do and extrapolating gloom and doom from less than 200 humans and a nuclear-powered starship on an entire planet...which doesn't translate. Sorry, you should have let Austin take a shot at this one, assuming he's played the game. :p
Dont forget that all the food is synthetic nutrient blocks without packaging
He wouldn't have even needed to play the game himself as tons of youtubers and Twitchies have played it and have video of it, or heck, even just a common google or wikipedia search could have told him differently. This was just an ocean-themed 'theory' video to plug an advertisement using a popular loved subject as clickbait.
Okay?
Austin already made a great video, albeit not quite the same topic
Also it can't be a global problem since everything else is already dead on the planet.
Ok, I'm going to be honest, this was one of your lesser theories Matt.
First of all, it wasn't the players fault, nor was it the fault of anyone on the ship that it crashed. The planet was designated as a Quarantine Zone by the Architects and massive AA guns were created to stop any ships from leaving or entering the planet's atmosphere. Unfortunately for the Aurora, it came in close enough to alert the defense systems and was shot down.
2nd, I don't see how one crashed ship could destroy the entire ecosystem of the planet. I mean it's just one ship in a fairly remote region of the ocean. It's not like here where nations all over the world have their trash end up in the ocean.
I mean, I get that this video is mostly to sponsor a good cause, but I wish you would've acknowledged these issues.
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And almost 90% of the planet is really deep so i doubt any kind of radiation would affect that part of the planet
Noir is there anything to really affect. I mean it’s called “The Dead Zone” for reason
And majority of the planet aside from the poles is apparently just ocean with a few islands...
Meaning it's practically impossible to assume one or three ship crashes could end the entire planet....
Not only that but a good chunk of the life that is seen in this game also shows up in Below Zero and they haven't changed at all.
Love you Matt, but I have some holes in your theory/ comments:
1. All of the plastics we find, and things like food and batteries, are store in titanium storage crates. So unless opened by the player on purpose, they shouldn't get out and contaminate the water
2. As the Aurora crashes, when you listen to the Black Box recording, you can hear him say that he's trying a "controlled decent." The obviously doesn't work completely, but it may account for the lack of damage we see to other areas of the map.
3. The entire playable area of Subnautica is called The Crater, since it was a volcano, and now is a caldera, ie how we have a Lava Lakes zone in the world. I think this would stop a lot of damage from spreading outside of the playable area, and especially stop much damage from occurring to the rest of the planet
I think the species most at risk is the Ghost Leviathan, the ones that live in the Void specifically. Since they generally eat microorganisms.
In the logs you find later in the game, you find that this is the only living area on the planet due to the peepers spreading the cure enzyme through alien water vents
@@happsk1211 which turns out to be false because sector 0 is still fine
plus, you quickly manage to stop the radiation spill of the ship and the packaging of the food is probably not made out of plastic giving that there are LITERAL MOLLECULE FABRICATORS, so cellulose would just be much more cheap
Great point
Let’s not forget the fact that the architects wanted to completely destroy the planet just to destroy the virus.
Not just the planet, the cannon building even has a bomb capable of wiping the whole solar system just to be safe 😂
Dam they arnt playin@@keanuortiz3766
They weren’t even trying to destroy the planet though…
FINALLY A SUBNAUTICA THEORY! IVE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS FOR YEARS! THANK YOU MATTHEW PATTHEW
same bro same
Matthew patthew I can’t- 😂
*That's where THEORISTS has gone:*
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SAME, WHEN I SAW THIS I ALMOST HAD A HEART ATTACK
@Мемный Перезалив Dam Russian Rickrolls
"Believe me, There was a lot of diving and searching involved." So, uh fun fact, Diving goes down to around 60m and Deep Diving goes to around 120m. MatPat love you bro, but you went down to 10m in a game where you can go 4000m+ in and called it a day. The amount of lore (which I'm sure the comments told you alot of already) is well, quite a bit, Honestly I would love to see you play this on GT Live or maybe make a Food Theory out of it. Hope you come across this game again soon.
Food theory: the dangers cured spadefish can cause to your heart
@@retro777brOr the water bottles, would like to know if fish cellulose could actually make a water bottle, although I can research that on my own
2 things.
1 in the game your PDA says too you that all the radiation is coming from the Aurora’s Power Core, which if you fix the Power Core the PDA then says that you have single handedly avoided a disaster. Or it says something like Crysis avoided I don’t remember the exact line. So the Radiation is no problem.
2. The entire Map of Subnautica is a giant Crater, and the Aurora crashed right on the edge of said Crater. If you look up a picture of the Subnautica map you’ll see what I’m talking about for yourself. What I’m saying here is would you Rather the Aurora fall 8,500 meters down, Thats as far as the Craters edge goes as far as the game tells us. Then the Radiation explodes outwords in every single direction.
Because what happened when the Drive Core exploded was all the radiation leaked into the crater ya know where the game takes place. We also know as of Subnautica below Zero, that 4546B is now fully under control of the Federation. So we can assume that they have removed the Aurora or at least torn the vessel into smaller parts so they can be tossed into orbit
We also know 1 other thing we know that the Aurora wasn’t traveling that fast when it hit the ocean ground, the Trailer for Subnautica starts with the captain of the vessel saying and I quote. “I’m attempting a controlled descend” AKA Slowing way down and pulling hard upwards to rip the speed WAYYYYY down.
Also in Subnautic yes we still use Batteries and yes we use Copper however this changes later in the game where we discover Ion Crystal’s. Which according to the games PDA Has enough energy too match that of over 5 Million nukes combined, but its being released into a clean and reliable energy source that doesn’t harm anything.
Something else… majority of the fish in Subnautica are immune or have high resistance to Radiation.
And not to mention the PS4 trophy for doing that: extinction event avoided
Also let's not forget that there's TONS of natural minerals exposed and copper is everywhere, I fully theorise that native fishes are completely adapted to live in environnement enriched in such elements. The wrecks are also made of element common to the planet, so they would do almost nothing.
You can see the fish immediately start scavenging the wreck and tearing parts of the hull off for minerals in their actual bodies, I think they're much more adapted to high levels of elements than anyone thinks.
Hell even the reapers come a calling hoping to find some juicy little meals, although I don't understand why they would chase the player seeing as how he's like 100000x smaller than them. That would be like running a marathon only to get a peanut at the end for your trouble.
@@Neoprenesiren If you manage too scan a Reaper and read the PDA. It says that Reapers are all muscle and very little brain.
Which probably explains why they eat basically anything
yeah, you can see uranium deposits liying around exposed to the seawater, it is not like the fish wont survive a little bit more radiation
The reason the impact size isn't as large is because the captain sacrificed his life to slow the ships descent and almost land it normally
My guy really just looked up a plot synopsis and decided he knew the whole thing enough to make a theory
Unfortunately
Yep, sure he did.
And it’s painful to watch. Like c‘mon- I love his theories, but subnautica is my favorite game and this is just a pain.
@@MimiMei29 HEY I FOUND YOU
@@Ellowynforest Hello :)
He doesn't care too much about the game, I'm pretty sure he just got told my the editors what to say, he's not smart enough to run this many channels I'm afraid
“You ruined the ecosystem, you landed on this planet”
M’dude i crashed on the planet.
But I do think you forgot a lot of major plot points, the ecosystem wasn’t fine to begin with. Most animals are also resistant to radiation. So we actually did save the planet by curing the Khaara virus. This isn’t earth, this is an entire different planet. This is also waaaaay in the future. I love your channel and I’d love it (and I know I’m not the only one) if you redid this theory :)
Still the planet is going to die anyway due to the massive destruction you brought. doesn't matter if you cured the disease
The point was kind of to talk about our planet while clickbaiting a Subnautica theory
Nerd
He won't, cause "he can't be wrong", also, he clearly doesn't read comments XD
@@benikujaku4567 Agreed on that one there chief