The appeal for Nintendo consoles is the Nintendo 1st party games. If Nintendo 1st party games are going to be steaming piles of crap like Strikers Battle League then I might just skip their next console
Trust me man , it's not . It perfectly fine for both to exist and have different reasons to appreciate em both . However sales ??? Anything ok numbers ???? It's not up for conversation. Them Nintendo Yakuza bosses got the market and game in a chokehold . So trust me it's not goin anywhere .
@@ImarBenIsrael there’s a good reason why the competition barely drags Nintendo into their pointless console war. As people say, mess with the Bull and you get the horns
I don't think the Deck will ever take down the Switch because there are absolutely tons of people who just straight up don't want anything to do with PC gaming since they're used to consoles. Plus there's tons of kids who want to play Nintendo games that obviously shouldn't be given an expensive Steam Deck. But personally? I'm never touching another Switch again. Steam Deck is everything I've ever wanted in a handheld system. Especially with the use of emulators, it can play every one of my favourite games on the go. Even games I've developed myself can be played on it.
The steam deck essentially IS the switch pro to me. The backwards compatibility with your current library, stronger tech stuff and free online of the deck makes it vastly more desirable than the switch today.
I think a big aspect of the Deck that appeals to me is that it doesn't limit itself, if I want to consume music and video entertainment I can. Most the time when I'm out I end up not using my Switch in favour of listening to music or watching vids. I remember how many people were against the Switch getting TH-cam which I found baffling.
The only thing I worry about for the steam deck is the distinct lack of advertising on platforms, which is important for the consumers as they gain the knowledge of its existence. The Switch still sells abunch because of their advertising, making it look like it’s the only competitor in the portable console category.
I'm sure they'll invest in advertising once they actually have the units for these people to be able to order. I ordered my Steam Deck 6 hours after the preorders were available. Still waiting for my unit. Heh, unit.
Steam is their advertising, the majority of the time (not right now because the Steam summer sale is running) there's a small banner ad for the Steam Deck on the front page of Steam. I get the feeling that other than that they don't really care, they want to appeal to the PC gaming market that they already appeal to
I thought It was great it got a shout out that final fantasy 7 remake was playable on steam deck. Do more of this with future games and it will gain more momentum! Playstation and xbox can benefit from the success of the steam deck cus people will buy their games on steam to play on the go. It's a win for everyone except nintendo.
The main draw to Nintendo platforms is their IP and platform specific features like motion controls so as long as they remain exclusive I don't see how it would make the switch irrelevant to the average consumer. The audience for the steam deck are all enthusiasts who want to further leverage steam but as a mobile platform. There is some crossover there but Nintendo will always hold something back to justify their own platform.
Rich just needed views and a title. Remember this is the same guy who uploaded a quitting video when he knew for a fact he wasn't going to actually quit. Easily the most disingenuous person on TH-cam.
You are correct, however if the next Steam Deck gets alot of advertisement and if Valve makes a shiton of them, then it could hurt Switch sales significantly. The only other thing I will add is that the 1st party isn't enough like the Wii U showed, the Switch was only successful because it was a handheld console at heart with 0 competitors.
@@goncaloduarte4683 na Nintendo has way to many games that people go to. Mario,Zelda, Pokémon many many more to play that you can't play on other systems. I download all kinds of other games to my Xbox and play Nintendo for Nintendo not just cuz its mobile
The beauty of the steam deck is the freedom it offers, the freedom that PC & Linux offers. If you wanted to have an equivalent feature set on a console you’d have to jailbreak it, with this it just works out of the box. Play emulated games, play PC games, play movies and music you have downloaded, and do all of this while still being able to play online without getting banned, and without having to pay to play online. The steam deck is the best thing other than desktop PC’s.
@@flawlessfatality8105 wtf are you talking about? It's your steam library. Every game I have ever bought on Steam since it's inception 18 years ago is still playable.
@@Droogie128 they will not be forever, to think that you will always be able to play them forever is laughable. YOU DO NOT OWN THEM, YOU ARE RENTING THEM
The Steam Deck allows me to play the games I've already paid for but now on the go, and because of Steam's Cloud Saves I'm able to pick up right where I left off from my PC, and pick it right back up again once I'm back in front of it. Nintendo meanwhile wants to charge you monthly for the "feature" of cloud saves and wants full price again for all those games you've already bought on their last generation consoles. Meanwhile I'm having a better experience playing Nintendo games on my Steam Deck thanks to emulation.
@@SlyTF1 No sir. Emulating games you already own is legal. Nintendo doesn't want you knowing that, of course though. Plenty of TH-camrs make content on emulation with no issues. Except for Nintendo that is. Nintendo is the only company that uses their resources to bully people out of discussing Nintendo emulation. As they've been doing with the Steam Deck already.
Nintendo has the exclusives, that's it. The steam deck blows the switch out of the water in literally every other category. Valve is even selling spare parts so people can do there own repairs.
There's a reason why Switch continues to dominate in sales despite the lack of 3rd party support and it's there 1st party exclusives. something that the steam deck will never have.
@@AzaiaMonota Compared to the PS5 and Xbox Series X yes it is lacking, but don't get me wrong. I'm not saying the Switch doesn't have no 3rd party support at all
(Big ANNOUNCEMENT) Rich the day after: Ricardo the Instant Regret Bird will make you regret getting Carlos's console by making it obsolete..... by releasing his "GameC0*k" Hybrid Console. Let's get into it and watch Ricardo get into my hands.
I wouldn´t go that far, to say that the Steam Deck made the Nintendo Switch Irrelevant. But i think that the Steam Deck, will probably make Nintendo compete in a good way, were the consumer / gamer profits from it.
Rich didn't say the steam deck made the Switch irrelivant overall, he said it made it irrelevant TO HIM. " There's a difference between saying "This console no longer matters at all, it is a thing of the past." and "I don't find any need for this console anymore." Man's allowed to have an opinion, is he not?
Nintendo NEEDS to make an official Switch 2.0. Runs the same Switch cartridges, has the same eShop ecosystem so digital purchases transfer right over, & mod-ability out the gate for those that want options with their controller inputs. And most importantly, MORE POWER! The Steam Deck exposed the Switch’s #1 flaw & did it with bright flashing lights.
wtf are you talking about with options with the controller inputs? I'm genuinely confused what you mean, unless you're just not aware that switch has full button mapping at a system level.
Never leave us Rich, there's NOBODY like you on this platform and we love you for it Topic - I feel you, the only reason I fell in love with the Nintendo Switch was when DOOM (2016) launched on it, couldn't believe it
Now since Steam Deck is gaining traction, I think AAA publishers and developers have no incentive to port their games to Switch and moreover Switch ports are usually terrible.
@@shabberplasm32 It's unfortunately hard to buy, I ordered within minutes of pre-orders going live, and it was still an excruciatingly long wait. If the Steam Deck was as easily available as the Switch it would do huge numbers!
dude the whole point of the switch is to play their exclusives. Mario and Zelda and super smash bros isn't ever gonna be on the Xbox or Playstation or steam deck.
@@Liquid12322 And yet, some of those exclusive games that are only on the Switch either look horrendous (Pokemon Swsh & Legends), or run smoother than sandpaper (Age of Calamity). Its 2022, why are Nintendo fans completely fine with a 2017 console who's hardware is admittedly weaker than last gen 2013 entries like the PS4 and Xb1???
@@ssj4922 no one's saying anything about how the hardware is. I made my point on exclusives that are only on the switch. Of course it would be good if they made a new console to perform better. I would probably buy that console too. I play better high resolution games on my series x
@@ssj4922 nintendo hasn’t tried to compete in terms of hardware power since the gamecube. their business model just doesn’t cater to that type of consumer.
The Switch does need to catch up to be able to run the current games coming out and future releases. That's my favourite aspect of the Switch to play high profile games on the go.
Yeah. There was a period, before this cloud trash, where Switch was getting some seriously impressive AAA titles. That momentum is quickly going away sadly. Now it’s almost entirely Nintendo’s own games and heaps of Indies that copy one another
@@flyingplantwhale545 not exactly when we just have Nier Automata and Persona 5 coming to Switch... If what you want to western aaa games on the go, Switch will NEVER be that platform to go for. And that's what steam deck can offer.
The Steam Deck might be superior (it is several years younger, tho), but there is no way it could replace the Switch. Only Nintendo can destroy the Switch.
If it did up scale up to 1440 p / 4k docked would change the game we need this. I understand the cost , however Nintendo always gets its money regardless. The 1440 p/ 4k dock could be sold separately.
I can tell you this. The Nintendo Switch easily has the Steam Deck beat in one thing: accessibility. The Switch appeals a lot to casuals and has become a stable of people’s homes. Heck, I’m the only person in my area who even knows what a Steam Deck is. My gamer father didn’t know it existed until I told him. Also, isn’t the Steam Deck less affordable than a Switch? If so, that’s another point against it. At the end of the day, the Steam Deck is nothing more than a cool niche compared to the legendary behemoth that is the Nintendo Switch. Feel free to reply if you disagree. 🙂
I'm glad you changed the title to "irrelevant to me" as mass market wise the deck will likely never have the appeal the switch does. Personally I plan to get a deck eventually but will definitely keep using my switch also.
The Steam Deck is essentially a portable PS4/Xbox One. That has tons of mass appeal. Also look at how much cheaper games for the Steam Deck are over the Switch.
@@Cakebattered Uhm. Dude, do you even realise how outdated the hardware in a PS4 or Xbox One _is_ though?!?! It sucks. It's not comparable to the newer generation of GPUs, think RTX 3000 series. And triple A gaming is rapidly going the route of demanding faster GPUs again. Switch is 'superior' only for how it has games specifically made for just that device and its hardware specs. But its already underperforming hard when it comes to triple A games. Doom didn't even run and had to be stripped from everything, downgraded to even lower resolution and so on. It's actually a pretty terrible device when it comes to performance.
I’ve been loving listening to your videos about the Deck while I drive to work in the morning and totally agree with your sentiments. The Switch excited me so much when I saw one of my buddies playing DOOM 2016 and realized how revolutionary of a device it is. I don’t see the Deck as fighting the Switch as much as it is taking the next steps on the journey the Switch started. I’m so heavily invested in the Steam ecosystem that I don’t know if I will ever buy another 3rd party game on any console just because I enjoy having access to these games on my Deck and laptop and love both the backwards AND forwards comparability. I just love these games I play on my Steam Deck will be accessible in 20 years on whatever PC I’m playing on.
Beside what everyone is saying about Switch (motion and gyro controls, first party games, affordability), the real main difference is physical media. Yes, Switch has digital downloads and satellite gaming, but most games are on cartridge. Maybe that means less and less as time goes on, but Polymega proves physical still matters to some.
Developers could easily sell their games at storefronts by having the game sold on a physical MicroSD card and have the game linked to your Steam account once installed in your Steam Deck.
@@JohnnyThund3r It sounds like a good Idea but Micro SD cards are only big enough to store game memory and to ease loading. Actual games barely fit on Blue-Ray disks Nice idea though.
A shirtless man with birds featuring Jay talking about the steam deck and switch is the video I needed. I reserved mine a yr ago and still heard nothing but it' says I'm q3 so soon. I'll still enjoy my switch regardless
Honestly, the only thing that makes Nintendo products viable are their 1st party IPs and wierd durable console designs. The switch was the first console they made to appeal more to 3rd party IPs. But it was unique due to it being a console and handheld. Now everyone else is copying them, so all that remains is Mario, Zelda, etc. Nintendo never revolutionized console tech or power. They were always far behind in graphics and processing anyways.
Actually untrue. Nintendo put a lot of effort into the power of their consoles for a long time. But with the GameCube and N64, despite being more powerful than PlayStation consoles in the same generation, both nintendos consoles were massive flops in comparison, so Nintendo changed their strategy with the Wii, instead of trying to appeal to hardcore gamers, they targeted the casual market, and one of the ways they did that was making their consoles cheaper, and the only way they could do that is use less powerful parts
@@Plumtopia It's complete BS that a company like Nintendo would need "less powerful parts" - EVERY company takes a hit when building a console, the sales never make up for it. Nintendo is a company that can take a hit and more and do just fine. They go cheap because they have a cheap mindset. Same reason they denied their joycon drift problem for so long until they had no other choice but to acknowledge it (now they are making BS excuses to try to get out of the lawsuit)
I agree with Rich on his points. The reason I bought the Switch was for both 1st and third party games. Playing the Witcher 3, Doom Eternal, Resident Evil 1,4 & 5 , Disco Elysium, Sub Nautica etc on the go was and still is mind blowing even some of these games had to have some downgrades in order to perform great on the Switch. I ordered the Steam Deck just because I want to play these third party games on go with better performance and better graphic's. RE2 Remake, Batman Arkham games, Elden Ring, Splinter Cell Chaos Theory..I have the option to finally play these games on the go with the Steam Deck. These games will never make it on Switch and the Steam Deck gives me the option to play some PS4 PC ports as well. Aside from that the third party and indie games on Steam are a lot cheaper than on the Nintendo Eshop. I hope for Nintendo that they just stick with the Switch design and just build a more powerfull version of it with full fleshed out online multiplayer features. And maybe do something with the tax for third party games.
These 2 products are basically comparing apples to oranges. Sure, the Steam Deck is more powerful and can play more games, but it’ll never be on the level of popularity and relevance of the Switch even for how underpowered it is and I hope there’s a much more powerful successor. It’s like comparing a super-powerful Android/Smartphone to an IPhone 13
The comparison to Android / iPhone isn’t really the same. The iPhone is more popular, but there are far more Androids sold globally. But in this case just about every iPhone is the most powerful phone of its respective year. In the US, the iPhone is both the most popular and the best performing. The Switch is most popular, but doesn’t have the performance. The Steam Deck has the performance but isn’t popular.
Steam deck doesn’t even last a whole hour playing triple A titles. The switch lasts almost 6 hours. The steam deck is a glorified home console, can’t even take it with you because the battery life is abysmal.
honestly the 1st party games are the best part of the switch, taking it on the go makes them even better and the 3rd party games, even if they dont look that well, are the icing on the cake. This to me is why the switch is the best console on the market (in my opinion of course)
exactly. first party games that are cross play I just get on my Xbox to play. Nintendo switch is for Nintendo. idk why people act like it's not. I'm not gonna get a switch to play call of duty or something lol
It’s funny but I’m the opposite. I saw that first ad for the Switch with the guy playing Skyrim on the go and practically lost it lmao, I ordered on launch day. So for me I prioritize playing my games on the go, exclusives are just a bonus.
So I just sent in my steam deck to get repaired/replaced and I've been getting by with my Nintendo Switch. In comparison to the steam deck it is such a small sleek device. Youre not going to pull out the steam deck and say a restaurant or do something like slip it in a large pocket. What I'm really getting sick of though, with the switch is the muddy sloppy look of every damn game that tries to do anything besides run 2d pixel art. And the compromise on performance as well. It's just getting so hard to sit and look at those games. If Nintendo could do something similar to the steam deck, maybe a little smaller and for around $500 that would be perfect. But for now it's really apples and oranges. While they're both portable handheld each has its own advantages/disadvantages but the steam deck is a much better experience over all.
The DS went above and beyond with that, you could literally play multiplayer games on the DS on two separate consoles without buying a second game cart even
I agree with Rich's argument entirely. These days, I play on my Switch exclusively. I love the fact that I can play console games on the go. When I get my Steam Deck, will I be playing it more than the Switch? Most likely. Why? Because I will have access to way more games than I would on the Switch. The original allure of the Switch was the ability to play AAA games (both exclusive and 3rd party) on the go. The Switch has a major bottleneck when it comes to bringing in 3rd party games and this is due to its power. The Steam Deck doesn't have that issue and can realize the Switch's allure better than the Switch can. I'm still gonna play my Switch, but it will unfortunately be relegated to a 1st party exclusive console more than anything else.
100% there with you on the Switch 2. The reason it’s as successful as it is, is because you can choose to play console games portably or on your TV. All they really need to do is make a next Gen version that can keep up with 3rd party titles. That’s it. Nintendo has such a strong hold on the handheld gaming market and their 1st party titles sell their systems single-handedly. So hoping they don’t go in some bizarre direction.
@Fionn MacCuill Wait is the OLED screen really better than the one of the Steam Deck? I own a Switch OLED also but I thought the Steam Deck screen was better since it has better resolution I think
@@Link-Link The resolution is a bit higher on the Steam Deck, yes, but that’s not really what they’re referring to. OLED screens basically just make all the colors look vastly superior. So the OLED will look better even despite the lower res.
Totally agree Rich. I currently don't own a single first party game for switch, I bought them on Wii U and feel burned by Nintendo. What I love about the switch was that you could take AAA experiences on the go. Most the games I have on switch I own somewhere else too like for example Skyrim and the Witcher 3.
So you bought games on a system that was lackluster but the games were actually good so now you will not buy amazing games because you are somehow slighted? Lol
"What I love about the switch was that you could take AAA experiences on the go." Except, you really can't do that _at all_ . The games you refer to are not remotely the same as their PC versions. It's also why the Steam Deck is a nonsensical idea, especially to anyone who owns a gaming laptop (which by the way, is really only double the cost of a Steam Deck, slightly more if you want an RTX 3060 in it (yes, I said RTX 3060). ). The Switch is great for its platform exclusives. It's not good for triple A gaming. Same applies to the Steam Deck. But at least games on Steam you will own for the PC too. Honestly, people are being idiots when it comes to the Switch and its portability. And trust me, a gaming laptop will always beat a Steam Deck with ease. No comparison, especially on the GPU side of things. It's a literal waste of money.
@@PHeMoX to say it's a waste of money isn't correct because it's really a matter of personal opinion and what experience they want from a device. a laptop is portable but not on the same scale as the Deck and you have controls built into the device. no need to carry around a controller if you want to have controller experience. the Deck is pick up and play. but you have a keyboard for controls on a laptop but that's not everyone's cup of tea. also you do get the total package with Switch as far as content on most or at least many games. that's the most important thing. but you do have examples such as FIFA on switch. that isn't a full experience to the latest games. and to scammers out their no I am not interested in any prizes to claim so don't waste your time asking because I'll report your reply ASAP!
I'm so tired of you guys trying to pass off your editor as an "expert in the gaming industry" Dude worked at gamestop. This would be like me going around saying I'm an expert in the oil industry because I once worked as a cashier at a gas station.
The switch at launch was the first Nintendo console since the 64 that blew me away with its graphics. Just the fact that you had something your hand that could play doom, Skyrim, and BOTW. But now the switch is dated and those games aren’t as impressive. I hope the next console can blow me away. The switch is becoming a port/party game/bad Mario sport game device.
In my opinion the Steam Deck is the ultimate handheld/portable "console." It's so easy to compare it to the Switch (I'm guilty of this too), but in my opinion... the Switch was always a pretty crappy handheld console, but it's all we had and as a result it enticed a lot of developers and publishers to release their games on the platform. Its library and battery life alone means it will maintain a place in handheld gaming for years, but in my opinion... where the Switch excels is as a home console docked to a bigscreen TV with a Pro Controller or one of the many retro controllers available for the system. The Switch feels great as a home console permanently connected to my TV, but much, much less good in my hands. Meanwhile, honestly--in comparison the performance, feel/comfort and user interface of the Steam Deck has impressed me as a handheld in ways that I have never been impressed before. Seriously, the thing just feels so good in the hands... its ergonomics are great, it's got a nice big screen, and the sound its speakers produces is much better than I would expect in something meant to be handheld. I am also a major fan of Linux and free and open source operating systems in general (and a user of Linux on my desktop/laptop machines since about 2004-2006), and the Deck's compatibility with non-native applications using Proton is very impressive. Add on some serious tweaking and customizability for graphical/battery balancing and you've got a winner of a system.
The only reason I wouldn't want an Nintendo Switch 2 is that Nintendo used to be an extremely interesting and unique company. I actually thought motion controls, and the 3D on the 3DS were really cool when developers utilized the technology properly and made unique experiences While the switch's transforming nature is cool, it doesn't have the same type of appeal as the previously mentioned innovations. Doing the same thing again we just turn them into a boring shell of their former selves, and I honestly can't say I'm too excited about that
Also if Nintendo just did whatever everyone was telling them to do at the time, they would have never made the Switch and became a third party developer after the Wii U
I was the opposite. I was with Nintendo through the Gamecube. When they came out with the Wii and other gimmicks, I bailed. Nintendo is back to pure gaming, and I’m loving the Switch. My PC is 3x as powerful, and I play Steam a bit, but I prefer the Switch
The Steam Deck and Nintendo Switch competing will benefit gamers. As a Switch owner, I love when games like Witcher 3 & Nier Automata make the ''impossible port'' jump. Being able to start your game on the couch to then gaming on the go is a MAJOR feature for gaming. Sometimes we dont want to stay glued to the desk or couch. I like to play all around the house. Nintendo has the exclusive IPs but Valve is bringing the larger library of games to handheld gamers
As a home console, the switch still feels relevant. As a handheld, there's so much more out there. If I'm going out, I always reach out for my aya neo or my iPad. Honestly I haven't had any desire to play my switch but hopefully splatoon 3 will change that.
I just installed a 1 TB drive in my steam deck literally 2 minutes ago. Finished re imaging steam os and now my 256GB drive that had like 220GB of usable space, now has a 1TB drive with 930GB of usable space! I also have a 512GB SD card in there with 468GB of usable space. So I have 1.3TB of usable space to store all my favorite games. And I could always upgrade to a 1TB or even 1.5TB (these are now coming to micro SD card size) to add another 450-950GB of usable storage. But that 1.3TB of space should be plenty for now. I can also download games at 80-100MB/S over my wifi so even large 100 GB games don’t take longer than 30-45 minutes to install. So can always uninstall games I beat. I love the thing! Also upgrading the drive was so easy. Just bought a 2230 drive on eBay and followed the ifixit guide for replacing the SSD. I love this thing!
Wrong. Sure, you can emulate Switch games. But who cares when the battery life is garbage, it’s oversized, can’t find it anywhere, etc. Oh! I forgot: no physical games.
First party titles ensure that the Switch won't become irrelevant anytime soon. Also... well-implemented gyro controls. Gyro controls have ruined a lot of FPS type games for me on other systems and I find it infuriating when a legacy game series launches on the Switch without them (I'm looking at you Bioshock Collection). Doom and Doom Eternal play so much better on the Switch because of this that it's real easy to overlook the better graphics on newer systems. Either way, get both and be happy.
a lot of people don’t know shooters are better with motion controls. arguably the concept of movement with a mouse is the best form of motion controls but you can only do so much on a console.
I get why people like gyro controls... but god I hate them. It just always feels like they're getting in the way of my decade or so of muscle memory I think it's just FPS too, because I love it in BotW
@@ShadowMan64572 Better? That's debatable. I'll concede that they're plenty configurable on the Deck but not quite at the level of the native implementation of certain Switch games. You have to fiddle too much compared to the Switch to get them right on the Deck. For the typical Steam Deck user this will come down to personal level of proficiency when tweaking your device. The casual user isn't going to bother. So better? Not yet, IMO .
@@Downhuman74 Idk what "fiddeling" you're talking about. By pretty much default you can use the thumbstick to convieniently enable gyro as you please, which is already better than Switch in my book. Fiddeling is only a plus, not a negative; on Switch you don't have the option to fiddle/improve, at least not to the same extent.
I would never want to re-buy my entire Steam library on switch, even if they're all available in the Switch's future. Just for the fact that my steam deck has 300+ games out the box, automatically makes it the present and future handheld successor for me. I only see Nintendo die hards picking the Switch 2 with probably 5 games out the box over the Steam Deck, with future games at that time AND all of your previous games.
I just got my steam deck in time for the summer sale. Everything is so much cheaper and if I don't like a game I can get a refund. Plus the emulation. Way more enjoyable experience
To the question “What would make me excited for Nintendo”. How bout “if you bought our game it’s on your account so you don’t need to rebuy. That and putting out their classics in a timely fashion (still no Super Mario RPG?)
I’d be inclined to agree if it weren’t for the fact that I’m coming onto a year since I reserved it and I still can’t get my Deck. Also, the fact that everything that needs to be replaced in it is proprietary and every little mod you do voids the warranty and is even pricier to replace makes it as anti-consumer as it is consumer-friendly.
Yeah availability is also a HUGE issue. I can walk Into a store and walk out with a switch on a whim, it would take months to get my hands on a steam deck which really hurts them
One of the biggest thing would be that Nintendo will see that people are okay with the thing being a bit bigger if it has the hardware. Heck the Zen2/RDNA2 SOC on the Deck, they could put that in the Switch 2! The hardware is already there and now has already been tested! This would mean Nintedo can still get next-gen ports due to the PS5/XSX/XSS sharing the same Zen2/RDNA2 architecture, and thus making Switch 2 ports will much easier compared to now with the PS4/X1 -> Switch ports as they share different architecture. Even better? That would mean if there were a port onto the Switch 2, then devs can easily put that Switch settings/optimization on the SD1. I think a SD2 announcement with a Zen4/RDNA3 will most likely happen when a Switch 2 is dropped, so SD1 owners can get those Switch optimizations.
Maybe the single worst take that's ever been given. Steam Dreck has zero exclusives and its library is better played on a far more capable rig. Switch has world-class exclusives you can't get anywhere else. To say nothing of the insane cost of the Dreck.
You can play spiderman and god of war on the go with a steam deck and theirs way cooler games that you cant get on switch that you can get on a steam deck. Oh gee cant wait to go play skyrim on my switch
@@bigchungus7050 technically even switches exclusives can be played on the steam deck I've seen ppl emulate switch games so the steam deck so you can even play Nintendo exclusives even f it's not a main stream way, as well as what you said about playing god of war, and spiderman games and other high tier games
@@nicoloreynolds4979 dude you totally missed the whole point. dude said play those games on a better compatible rig meaning play your God of War on your Playstation. the switch isn't for crazy graphics. it's to play super smash bros, Zelda games. Mario games. I don't see what you don't understand. you just want to be ignorant
@@Liquid12322 I don't see how I'm being ignorant lol I didn't miss any points, my point was yes you can still technically play the exclusives on the switch on steam deck
The Steam Deck will never outsell the Switch even if you factor in calculating the price. And the steam deck relies on third parties for their games while Nintendo has so many original IPs that rival or are even better than MS and PS IPs.
I agree, there's just not enough production to even match Nintendo's sales for 20% before the deck is "obsolete" That, and they don't really market it. Nintendo is mainstream for a reason
This is a tactic for Steam Deck owners to NOT feel like they wasted their money. By the end of the year Switch will have (what we know so far) Live A Live Bayo 3 Pokemon S/V Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Metroid Prime Remake Splatoon 3 and Mario + Rabbids 2 _None_ of which can be played on Steam Deck. That's not even talking BOTW2. Steam Deck is an expensive novelty, nothing more.
@@Gambit2483 I'm extremely concerned about Splatoon 3 unfortunately, as Strikers Battle League and Switch Sports proves Nintendo has been getting a bit too confident as they are rushing out games and setting unreasonable deadlines for developers like Camelot and NLG, so they can use their "free content update" model, and I am worried Splatoon 3 will ultimately fall into that trap.
@@hellacia8151 I wouldn't worry. Nintendo ALWAYS adds extra content to (most) of their games. That's a given. If anything they might add some new stages or weapons or story stuff but the base game, like Splatoon 2, will already have plenty of that to begin with.
@@Gambit2483 give it a few and we'll be emulating them just fine Not to mention the thousands of games we're playing on the deck that the switch cannot. Deck is a PC, PC has it's audience.
To the point made around the 23-minute mark: PLEASE, bring back the Miiverse along with better eShop UI, more intuitive friend interaction and online infrastructure. No more Animal Crossing-type shenanigans where we have to stop in place and wait 5 minutes for each villager to load in. That's the next step for the Switch 2/Pro.
Loving my Steam Deck and it's open platform nature, it's a fit for me (minus d-pad) but, it's not for everyone. It's a PC gamer's handheld so with freedom with it the work to make it shine, for PC gamers that's half the fun. For average "just game go, pay online fee whatever" gamers, it's extra work but it's an invitation to go up a level. 18:00 Steam Deck can do this if you have a PC on your TV, run Steam Link to stream from or to Deck. I use Steam Link app with my laptop to either use the deck as a controller or my keyboard/mouse with the deck.
I’ve always thought of the switch as a playable cartridge and the dock as the “console”…. Play a game in handheld and then pop it in the dock and the dock boosts the output…. That should be the future of the switch
Great video guys, loved it. My way of thinking is this, 3 systems, a hybrid like the standard, a handheld only, like the lite and a home only, more powerful and without a screen, you have a system for everyone. And for the love of God Nintendo, fix those damn Joycons...
I understand that opinion. I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t as pumped for switch as I used to be. Still love it though but it’s getting used less. It’s different now for me because all my friends and even some family got switches, so even though I had it for almost half a decade, the last 2 years were the push for literally everyone else in my life to hop on. I just can’t see some of those people getting a steam deck. So now it’s a lot of online and wireless multiplayer content I couldn’t fully enjoy prior (we started playing Diablo 3 after immortal pooped the bed but got my friends interested in it, def recommend), but it’s all games I’ve played before. I’ve played the big third party ports, the 10 year old console ports, the Nintendo IPs I care about, and the switch outings were great for the most part. The lots of Wii U ports I bought twice. But like, what’s next? I noticed recently that with a few exceptions, most of the games I own were released in the first 2ish years of the console’s life. Friends and family are obsessed because all of this is new to them, and honestly, especially for people who have been away from gaming for a bit, the best time to get in if you haven’t is probably now because the backlog is impressive. But there’s a good chunk of people who have been there did that years ago. Waiting for that next big thing to keep me from party pooper status.
Switch is much cheaper (especially if you go lite like i did), has exclusives, has gyro controls, is smaller and more compact for travel, and is more comfortable to hold and use for dudes with average size hands like me. If you have the money the steam deck could be good for you but it's clearly different products for different demographics and certainly not irrelevant.
I agree with you, I think the steam deck is pretty cool. Don't get me wrong but not everyone can afford it. I like my PC and my Xbox 360 and my Nintendo switch just the way they are
The "Switch is cheaper" argument is laughable. Steam has its Summer Sale going on. Please go and compare prices with Steam and eShop. The price difference is stunning, and we all know we spend far more on game libraries than on the machines we play them on. The Switch lite is one of the most uncomfortable handhelds. I own both a Switch lite and Steam Deck. The Steam deck is absolutely more comfortable to hold regardless of hand size.
@@MrSacrafice we know that but the one problem is not all of us can afford it, Also it's really hard to even get one for me. To be honest I absolutely loved how the steam deck looks do not get me wrong even if I did get one. I would just play Transformers war for Cybertron on it and my other Steam games and that's about it. I like the consoles I've have just the way they are. No problem
the best selling point for the steam deck is the emulation (for me) all to Nintendo switch is the best thing about it. since i don't have to pay for these stupid prices for switch online for games that Nintendo only chooses, not me I cannot wait to buy a steam deck
thats not true.. I play the switch for Nintendo games not just to play something that's just mobile. this video is kinda eh.. I actually play my switch more then my Xbox series x nowadays
I see a lot of Nintendo fans complain about the existence of third party games, and I don't get it. Even if their exclusives are super popular, having other games is always nice.
Fun fact Rich: Mortal Kombat ii on the SNES was Nintendo’s first mature rated game to be uncensored and have gratuitous blood and gore. Though was because of Nintendo’s former rival Sega with the first Mortal Kombat on the Genesis being uncensored and selling for that system 3 to 1. Bottom line: money, money, money, monnnnney. Money.
I’m not buying anything third party on switch again, and that was a huge selling point for the switch for me initially… so now it’s just Nintendo exclusives for me
@@husseinrose4883 the third party games being portable was a huge deal for me when the switch came out and made Nintendo third party worth it, but now they’re just irrelevant since the steam deck is here.
I dont think steam deck will kill the switch, however I wouldn't go back to the switch after getting my steam deck. If you game on pc mainly then you have that massive library, the store always has sales, new titles coming out and with great performance. Nintendo is very over rated in my opinion, their first party titles are good but, I honestly dont think they compare to elden ring, god of war, gta, rdd2. And their pricing is ridiculous, paying £50 -£60 price for a game and it would probably never drop. This has been pretty dry for games so far but compared to switch first party games have been none to nothing. You can make the switch as powerful as you want, but if your mainly just putting out indi games.. you just done need it.
Here is the problem. How would you convince someone to buy a steam deck if they already have a pc? Like legit people always say that pc is the best way to play, I’ve had a pc for 2 years now and I still don’t see the hype for it. Sure there are some games I can’t play on my other consoles but legit graphics and frame rate I don’t ever see a difference from a console. Loading time is about it. And honestly you could buy a backbone for an iPhone and then use the steam streaming service to play your steam games on the go. Or even the Xbox cloud gaming
PC is about options, not just about graphics and framerate. Also, as someone who games on a 120Hz OLED, I'd still say lol to not seeing a difference in performance. Anyway, I have a Steam Deck too, why would I not? I can take my already bought games on the go.
I noticed a big difference in frames and resolution vs the PS4 and Xbox1, and I only had a mid-level gaming laptop. I imagine the current gen consoles are much closer to PC, but last gen it wasn’t even comparable.
@@teuvoalmgren9857 people act like there is a huge difference in frame rate but don’t realize that most humans can only see between 30 to 60. The fact that people have to go super ultra graphics and frame rate when it comes to games is ridiculous and stupid. Plus it makes no sense saying one has a 120hz monitor for gaming on but then be ok with going back to 60 when using the steam deck because “pc master race”
As of now I don’t think the SD is a threat to the switch. The switch’s target audience is kids to young adults. Even though all ages enjoy the switch I think it’s catered more towards the youth. The different colors, the mystique of it all. Not to mention all the nostalgia that comes with Nintendo games and products. On top of the accessibility and cheaper price of the switch. Overall, I think the youth, and casual gamers are drawn more toward the switch whereas more hardcore and sound gamers would gravitate towards the Steam Deck. But who knows where we stand in the next 5 years
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The appeal for Nintendo consoles is the Nintendo 1st party games. If Nintendo 1st party games are going to be steaming piles of crap like Strikers Battle League then I might just skip their next console
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@@Bynxandethan Ralphie made Richie come back after a few rounds of coffee at the corner café.
I haven't played Elden Ring because the Switch can't play it. My laptop can't play anything modern.
People seriously thinking the Deck is gonna take down the switch while I’m over here just wanting the two to co-exist together
Trust me man , it's not . It perfectly fine for both to exist and have different reasons to appreciate em both . However sales ??? Anything ok numbers ???? It's not up for conversation. Them Nintendo Yakuza bosses got the market and game in a chokehold . So trust me it's not goin anywhere .
@@ImarBenIsrael there’s a good reason why the competition barely drags Nintendo into their pointless console war. As people say, mess with the Bull and you get the horns
@@ImarBenIsrael Said that perfectly.
No one is expecting that...
I don't think the Deck will ever take down the Switch because there are absolutely tons of people who just straight up don't want anything to do with PC gaming since they're used to consoles.
Plus there's tons of kids who want to play Nintendo games that obviously shouldn't be given an expensive Steam Deck.
But personally? I'm never touching another Switch again. Steam Deck is everything I've ever wanted in a handheld system. Especially with the use of emulators, it can play every one of my favourite games on the go.
Even games I've developed myself can be played on it.
The steam deck essentially IS the switch pro to me. The backwards compatibility with your current library, stronger tech stuff and free online of the deck makes it vastly more desirable than the switch today.
I think a big aspect of the Deck that appeals to me is that it doesn't limit itself, if I want to consume music and video entertainment I can.
Most the time when I'm out I end up not using my Switch in favour of listening to music or watching vids.
I remember how many people were against the Switch getting TH-cam which I found baffling.
Nintendo fanboys for ya
@Diomedes How? Their products are very cheap
The only thing I worry about for the steam deck is the distinct lack of advertising on platforms, which is important for the consumers as they gain the knowledge of its existence. The Switch still sells abunch because of their advertising, making it look like it’s the only competitor in the portable console category.
Once the steam is full production and has enough for store shelves it'll be ideally 80% ironed out and ready to roll for non enthusiasts
Steam deck is steam rolling, valve is a household name and word of mouth is spreading like fire
I'm sure they'll invest in advertising once they actually have the units for these people to be able to order. I ordered my Steam Deck 6 hours after the preorders were available. Still waiting for my unit. Heh, unit.
Steam is their advertising, the majority of the time (not right now because the Steam summer sale is running) there's a small banner ad for the Steam Deck on the front page of Steam. I get the feeling that other than that they don't really care, they want to appeal to the PC gaming market that they already appeal to
I thought It was great it got a shout out that final fantasy 7 remake was playable on steam deck. Do more of this with future games and it will gain more momentum! Playstation and xbox can benefit from the success of the steam deck cus people will buy their games on steam to play on the go. It's a win for everyone except nintendo.
The main draw to Nintendo platforms is their IP and platform specific features like motion controls so as long as they remain exclusive I don't see how it would make the switch irrelevant to the average consumer.
The audience for the steam deck are all enthusiasts who want to further leverage steam but as a mobile platform. There is some crossover there but Nintendo will always hold something back to justify their own platform.
Perfect explanation for the Switch vs Deck.
Dont talk common sense to Rich. He really wanted the sensational title. Sad, really.
Rich just needed views and a title. Remember this is the same guy who uploaded a quitting video when he knew for a fact he wasn't going to actually quit. Easily the most disingenuous person on TH-cam.
You are correct, however if the next Steam Deck gets alot of advertisement and if Valve makes a shiton of them, then it could hurt Switch sales significantly.
The only other thing I will add is that the 1st party isn't enough like the Wii U showed, the Switch was only successful because it was a handheld console at heart with 0 competitors.
@@goncaloduarte4683 na Nintendo has way to many games that people go to. Mario,Zelda, Pokémon many many more to play that you can't play on other systems. I download all kinds of other games to my Xbox and play Nintendo for Nintendo not just cuz its mobile
The beauty of the steam deck is the freedom it offers, the freedom that PC & Linux offers. If you wanted to have an equivalent feature set on a console you’d have to jailbreak it, with this it just works out of the box. Play emulated games, play PC games, play movies and music you have downloaded, and do all of this while still being able to play online without getting banned, and without having to pay to play online. The steam deck is the best thing other than desktop PC’s.
I'm still deciding to get either a Steam Deck or AyaNeo Air.
What freedom? You don’t own any of the games on the steam deck. They are rentals and can be taken away from you at any time
@@flawlessfatality8105 wtf are you talking about? It's your steam library. Every game I have ever bought on Steam since it's inception 18 years ago is still playable.
@@flawlessfatality8105 Tell that to Nintendo, who locks their retro games behind a subscription service (with average at best emulation at that lol)
@@Droogie128 they will not be forever, to think that you will always be able to play them forever is laughable. YOU DO NOT OWN THEM, YOU ARE RENTING THEM
The Steam Deck allows me to play the games I've already paid for but now on the go, and because of Steam's Cloud Saves I'm able to pick up right where I left off from my PC, and pick it right back up again once I'm back in front of it.
Nintendo meanwhile wants to charge you monthly for the "feature" of cloud saves and wants full price again for all those games you've already bought on their last generation consoles.
Meanwhile I'm having a better experience playing Nintendo games on my Steam Deck thanks to emulation.
You articulated the appeal of steam deck so well, thank you 😭 and I love the switch
So you have fun stealing games?
@@SlyTF1 emulation =/= piracy
@@MrKilljay It's the same thing.
@@SlyTF1 No sir. Emulating games you already own is legal. Nintendo doesn't want you knowing that, of course though. Plenty of TH-camrs make content on emulation with no issues. Except for Nintendo that is. Nintendo is the only company that uses their resources to bully people out of discussing Nintendo emulation. As they've been doing with the Steam Deck already.
That was definitely an intro. I honestly wanted to get a steam deck and/ or a device like for a while
If the steam deck came out first I probably wouldn't have gotten a switch
Millions of people would have done the same.
Nintendo has the exclusives, that's it. The steam deck blows the switch out of the water in literally every other category. Valve is even selling spare parts so people can do there own repairs.
Except Steam Deck also has Nintendo Switch exclusives lol
Yeah, was about to say, it doesn’t even have exclusives, you can emulate switch games plus all the games Nintendo refuses to rerelease digitally
Yeah, was about to say, it doesn’t even have exclusives, you can emulate switch games plus all the games Nintendo refuses to rerelease digitally
Every category?? LMFAO you clearly have no clue what you're talking about
@@HugoStiglitz88 okay. Other than exclusives, how is the switch better? Please share.
There's a reason why Switch continues to dominate in sales despite the lack of 3rd party support and it's there 1st party exclusives. something that the steam deck will never have.
Not only that, they're the first ones to have a more powerful hybrid device in the market.
How is 3rd party support lacking when it has over 4000 3rd party games
@@AzaiaMonota Compared to the PS5 and Xbox Series X yes it is lacking, but don't get me wrong. I'm not saying the Switch doesn't have no 3rd party support at all
@@megaman3433 It's lacking in the big AAA M rated 3rd party support you mean
@@AzaiaMonota Yeah. that's what I meant
Rich Tomorrow: "The next gen Nintendo Switch made the Steam Deck obsolete... then Carlos made the next gen Switch obsolete. Let's get into it."
(Big ANNOUNCEMENT) Rich the day after: Ricardo the Instant Regret Bird will make you regret getting Carlos's console by making it obsolete..... by releasing his "GameC0*k" Hybrid Console. Let's get into it and watch Ricardo get into my hands.
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I wouldn´t go that far, to say that the Steam Deck made the Nintendo Switch Irrelevant.
But i think that the Steam Deck, will probably make Nintendo compete in a good way, were the consumer / gamer profits from it.
At the very least, the Steam Deck has moved up Nintendo's plans for a Switch 2.
Rich didn't say the steam deck made the Switch irrelivant overall, he said it made it irrelevant TO HIM. "
There's a difference between saying "This console no longer matters at all, it is a thing of the past." and "I don't find any need for this console anymore."
Man's allowed to have an opinion, is he not?
Piracy is the way.
@@Cakebattered Piracy is the way.
@Da Fonse Agreed.
Nintendo NEEDS to make an official Switch 2.0. Runs the same Switch cartridges, has the same eShop ecosystem so digital purchases transfer right over, & mod-ability out the gate for those that want options with their controller inputs. And most importantly, MORE POWER! The Steam Deck exposed the Switch’s #1 flaw & did it with bright flashing lights.
Piracy is king.
wtf are you talking about with options with the controller inputs? I'm genuinely confused what you mean, unless you're just not aware that switch has full button mapping at a system level.
Nintendo isn’t here to make our life’s easier.
Never leave us Rich, there's NOBODY like you on this platform and we love you for it
Topic - I feel you, the only reason I fell in love with the Nintendo Switch was when DOOM (2016) launched on it, couldn't believe it
Now since Steam Deck is gaining traction, I think AAA publishers and developers have no incentive to port their games to Switch and moreover Switch ports are usually terrible.
I'm afraid I haven't used the Switch since I bought the Steam Deck. They're both great, but if I had to pick one I'd pick the Steam Deck.
100 percent
Preach.
Facts
I'm afraid that MOST people don't even have access to get the Deck lol
@@shabberplasm32 It's unfortunately hard to buy, I ordered within minutes of pre-orders going live, and it was still an excruciatingly long wait. If the Steam Deck was as easily available as the Switch it would do huge numbers!
When I was younger I didn’t really care that much about how powerful a console is but now that I’m older I notice how bad the switch hardware is
dude the whole point of the switch is to play their exclusives. Mario and Zelda and super smash bros isn't ever gonna be on the Xbox or Playstation or steam deck.
@@Liquid12322 yeah but a lot of times they’re exclusives play like trash bad frame rates barely 30 FPS at best graphics are worse than base PS4
@@Liquid12322 And yet, some of those exclusive games that are only on the Switch either look horrendous (Pokemon Swsh & Legends), or run smoother than sandpaper (Age of Calamity).
Its 2022, why are Nintendo fans completely fine with a 2017 console who's hardware is admittedly weaker than last gen 2013 entries like the PS4 and Xb1???
@@ssj4922 no one's saying anything about how the hardware is. I made my point on exclusives that are only on the switch. Of course it would be good if they made a new console to perform better. I would probably buy that console too. I play better high resolution games on my series x
@@ssj4922 nintendo hasn’t tried to compete in terms of hardware power since the gamecube. their business model just doesn’t cater to that type of consumer.
The Switch does need to catch up to be able to run the current games coming out and future releases. That's my favourite aspect of the Switch to play high profile games on the go.
Yeah. There was a period, before this cloud trash, where Switch was getting some seriously impressive AAA titles. That momentum is quickly going away sadly. Now it’s almost entirely Nintendo’s own games and heaps of Indies that copy one another
Piracy is the way.
@@flyingplantwhale545 Piracy is the way.
"High profile gAMeS" I want whatever you're smokin Matthew Hardwick
@@flyingplantwhale545 not exactly when we just have Nier Automata and Persona 5 coming to Switch...
If what you want to western aaa games on the go, Switch will NEVER be that platform to go for. And that's what steam deck can offer.
The steam deck is a massive money saver unlike Nintendo's $59.99 ports
Rich looks nice with his shirt off
@@unicorntomboy9736 hey! I know 😍
@DigitalAlpha so true 😅
"Money saver" while spending more on the Deck itself.
@@killertruth186 exacly! The money savings adds up unlike Nintendo
The Steam Deck might be superior (it is several years younger, tho), but there is no way it could replace the Switch. Only Nintendo can destroy the Switch.
If it did up scale up to 1440 p / 4k docked would change the game we need this. I understand the cost , however Nintendo always gets its money regardless. The 1440 p/ 4k dock could be sold separately.
They seem to be doing a good job of that, already, lmao. Most of my friends already sold their Switch consoles, unfortunately.
Piracy is the way.
@@jlcCustom45 Piracy is the way.
@@brytheblueeye1723 Piracy is the way.
I can tell you this. The Nintendo Switch easily has the Steam Deck beat in one thing: accessibility. The Switch appeals a lot to casuals and has become a stable of people’s homes. Heck, I’m the only person in my area who even knows what a Steam Deck is. My gamer father didn’t know it existed until I told him.
Also, isn’t the Steam Deck less affordable than a Switch? If so, that’s another point against it. At the end of the day, the Steam Deck is nothing more than a cool niche compared to the legendary behemoth that is the Nintendo Switch. Feel free to reply if you disagree. 🙂
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Exactly! Also the Switch is a lot more portable, whereas the Deck is much bulkier.
@@thatcoolraichu7488 Neither I would put in my pocket, so they're as portable for me.
I'm glad you changed the title to "irrelevant to me" as mass market wise the deck will likely never have the appeal the switch does.
Personally I plan to get a deck eventually but will definitely keep using my switch also.
The Steam Deck is essentially a portable PS4/Xbox One. That has tons of mass appeal. Also look at how much cheaper games for the Steam Deck are over the Switch.
@@Cakebattered Uhm. Dude, do you even realise how outdated the hardware in a PS4 or Xbox One _is_ though?!?! It sucks. It's not comparable to the newer generation of GPUs, think RTX 3000 series. And triple A gaming is rapidly going the route of demanding faster GPUs again. Switch is 'superior' only for how it has games specifically made for just that device and its hardware specs. But its already underperforming hard when it comes to triple A games. Doom didn't even run and had to be stripped from everything, downgraded to even lower resolution and so on. It's actually a pretty terrible device when it comes to performance.
@@PHeMoX Emulation rules!
@@PHeMoX Steam Deck is not competing with Playstation and Xbox. People who want handheld gaming device are not interested in 4k and ray tracing.
@Fionn MacCuill Steam Deck is going to overtake handheld market
I’ve been loving listening to your videos about the Deck while I drive to work in the morning and totally agree with your sentiments. The Switch excited me so much when I saw one of my buddies playing DOOM 2016 and realized how revolutionary of a device it is. I don’t see the Deck as fighting the Switch as much as it is taking the next steps on the journey the Switch started.
I’m so heavily invested in the Steam ecosystem that I don’t know if I will ever buy another 3rd party game on any console just because I enjoy having access to these games on my Deck and laptop and love both the backwards AND forwards comparability. I just love these games I play on my Steam Deck will be accessible in 20 years on whatever PC I’m playing on.
Beside what everyone is saying about Switch (motion and gyro controls, first party games, affordability), the real main difference is physical media. Yes, Switch has digital downloads and satellite gaming, but most games are on cartridge. Maybe that means less and less as time goes on, but Polymega proves physical still matters to some.
AFFORDABLITY! AFFORDABLITY! AFFORDABLITY!
Not unless you can emulate the switch on the steam deck and pirate games
@@Aesthetic626 I pirate Nintendo games
Developers could easily sell their games at storefronts by having the game sold on a physical MicroSD card and have the game linked to your Steam account once installed in your Steam Deck.
@@JohnnyThund3r It sounds like a good Idea but Micro SD cards are only big enough to store game memory and to ease loading. Actual games barely fit on Blue-Ray disks Nice idea though.
A shirtless man with birds featuring Jay talking about the steam deck and switch is the video I needed. I reserved mine a yr ago and still heard nothing but it' says I'm q3 so soon. I'll still enjoy my switch regardless
Honestly, the only thing that makes Nintendo products viable are their 1st party IPs and wierd durable console designs.
The switch was the first console they made to appeal more to 3rd party IPs. But it was unique due to it being a console and handheld. Now everyone else is copying them, so all that remains is Mario, Zelda, etc.
Nintendo never revolutionized console tech or power. They were always far behind in graphics and processing anyways.
Actually untrue. Nintendo put a lot of effort into the power of their consoles for a long time. But with the GameCube and N64, despite being more powerful than PlayStation consoles in the same generation, both nintendos consoles were massive flops in comparison, so Nintendo changed their strategy with the Wii, instead of trying to appeal to hardcore gamers, they targeted the casual market, and one of the ways they did that was making their consoles cheaper, and the only way they could do that is use less powerful parts
@@Plumtopia It's complete BS that a company like Nintendo would need "less powerful parts" - EVERY company takes a hit when building a console, the sales never make up for it. Nintendo is a company that can take a hit and more and do just fine.
They go cheap because they have a cheap mindset. Same reason they denied their joycon drift problem for so long until they had no other choice but to acknowledge it (now they are making BS excuses to try to get out of the lawsuit)
@@FirstLast-yc9lq Possible Nintendo Switch Pro that has features similar to the 3DS?
@@Plumtopia you raise a good point
@@FirstLast-yc9lq but that minset worked look at the switch, might actually make them more confident in that philosopy until proven wrong.
I agree with Rich on his points. The reason I bought the Switch was for both 1st and third party games. Playing the Witcher 3, Doom Eternal, Resident Evil 1,4 & 5 , Disco Elysium, Sub Nautica etc on the go was and still is mind blowing even some of these games had to have some downgrades in order to perform great on the Switch. I ordered the Steam Deck just because I want to play these third party games on go with better performance and better graphic's. RE2 Remake, Batman Arkham games, Elden Ring, Splinter Cell Chaos Theory..I have the option to finally play these games on the go with the Steam Deck. These games will never make it on Switch and the Steam Deck gives me the option to play some PS4 PC ports as well. Aside from that the third party and indie games on Steam are a lot cheaper than on the Nintendo Eshop. I hope for Nintendo that they just stick with the Switch design and just build a more powerfull version of it with full fleshed out online multiplayer features. And maybe do something with the tax for third party games.
These 2 products are basically comparing apples to oranges. Sure, the Steam Deck is more powerful and can play more games, but it’ll never be on the level of popularity and relevance of the Switch even for how underpowered it is and I hope there’s a much more powerful successor. It’s like comparing a super-powerful Android/Smartphone to an IPhone 13
Okay? And your point? Sounds like you're just a bit bitter because he's favoring the Steam Deck.
The comparison to Android / iPhone isn’t really the same. The iPhone is more popular, but there are far more Androids sold globally. But in this case just about every iPhone is the most powerful phone of its respective year. In the US, the iPhone is both the most popular and the best performing. The Switch is most popular, but doesn’t have the performance. The Steam Deck has the performance but isn’t popular.
Steam deck doesn’t even last a whole hour playing triple A titles. The switch lasts almost 6 hours.
The steam deck is a glorified home console, can’t even take it with you because the battery life is abysmal.
@@legitimatelypissedoff4409 mine has. Do you have one?
Your analogy doesn't apply. Apples/oranges are purely subhective. There are clear objective advantages to the Steam Deck over a Switch.
honestly the 1st party games are the best part of the switch, taking it on the go makes them even better and the 3rd party games, even if they dont look that well, are the icing on the cake. This to me is why the switch is the best console on the market (in my opinion of course)
exactly. first party games that are cross play I just get on my Xbox to play. Nintendo switch is for Nintendo. idk why people act like it's not. I'm not gonna get a switch to play call of duty or something lol
Piracy is king.
@@Liquid12322 Piracy is king.
It’s funny but I’m the opposite. I saw that first ad for the Switch with the guy playing Skyrim on the go and practically lost it lmao, I ordered on launch day. So for me I prioritize playing my games on the go, exclusives are just a bonus.
So I just sent in my steam deck to get repaired/replaced and I've been getting by with my Nintendo Switch. In comparison to the steam deck it is such a small sleek device. Youre not going to pull out the steam deck and say a restaurant or do something like slip it in a large pocket. What I'm really getting sick of though, with the switch is the muddy sloppy look of every damn game that tries to do anything besides run 2d pixel art. And the compromise on performance as well. It's just getting so hard to sit and look at those games. If Nintendo could do something similar to the steam deck, maybe a little smaller and for around $500 that would be perfect. But for now it's really apples and oranges. While they're both portable handheld each has its own advantages/disadvantages but the steam deck is a much better experience over all.
I’ve said this billion times to my friends , the switch is ANTI CONSUMER . The DS does a better job connecting with friends than the switch
The DS went above and beyond with that, you could literally play multiplayer games on the DS on two separate consoles without buying a second game cart even
Agreed.
@@ShellTree It’s crazy that Steam is the only platform that regularly allows that. Remote play should be a standard in the industry at this point.
I agree with Rich's argument entirely. These days, I play on my Switch exclusively. I love the fact that I can play console games on the go. When I get my Steam Deck, will I be playing it more than the Switch? Most likely. Why? Because I will have access to way more games than I would on the Switch.
The original allure of the Switch was the ability to play AAA games (both exclusive and 3rd party) on the go. The Switch has a major bottleneck when it comes to bringing in 3rd party games and this is due to its power. The Steam Deck doesn't have that issue and can realize the Switch's allure better than the Switch can.
I'm still gonna play my Switch, but it will unfortunately be relegated to a 1st party exclusive console more than anything else.
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100% there with you on the Switch 2. The reason it’s as successful as it is, is because you can choose to play console games portably or on your TV. All they really need to do is make a next Gen version that can keep up with 3rd party titles. That’s it. Nintendo has such a strong hold on the handheld gaming market and their 1st party titles sell their systems single-handedly. So hoping they don’t go in some bizarre direction.
You can play the steam deck on your tv
I use my Switch to rip games off the carts and pull digital games to emulate in Yuzu on the Deck. Exclusives of course. I love my Steam deck.
Yea, but not everyone can hack a Switch tho. And you still have to buy the games.
@@LennyQUMFIF I know. I was only stating how I use the console.
@@LennyQUMFIF you do not have to buy them u can easily pirate
@@guccisquidbillytentacles if its SO easy... what site do i need?
Bleh emulation doubt that good. Deck specs not that high. Even my laptop that crushes deck specs struggles on some games with emulation
I agree 100%, don’t see why I would need a switch after getting a steam deck
Exclusives are the only real advantage as far as I can tell
@Fionn MacCuill Wait is the OLED screen really better than the one of the Steam Deck? I own a Switch OLED also but I thought the Steam Deck screen was better since it has better resolution I think
@@Link-Link The resolution is a bit higher on the Steam Deck, yes, but that’s not really what they’re referring to. OLED screens basically just make all the colors look vastly superior. So the OLED will look better even despite the lower res.
@@CaptainEffort oh alright thx 👍
With the proper emulation, the Steam Deck can be a Switch, too.
Nope, least not from my experience with my laptop that has higher specs than the deck. It can definitely do some
Totally agree Rich. I currently don't own a single first party game for switch, I bought them on Wii U and feel burned by Nintendo. What I love about the switch was that you could take AAA experiences on the go. Most the games I have on switch I own somewhere else too like for example Skyrim and the Witcher 3.
Fair enough, but i feel like you are missing out on some great first party Nintendo titles
So you bought games on a system that was lackluster but the games were actually good so now you will not buy amazing games because you are somehow slighted? Lol
I felt burned by the Wii U, so I never bought a Switch. I got an Odin Pro instead and am totally happy with it! 😎
"What I love about the switch was that you could take AAA experiences on the go."
Except, you really can't do that _at all_ . The games you refer to are not remotely the same as their PC versions. It's also why the Steam Deck is a nonsensical idea, especially to anyone who owns a gaming laptop (which by the way, is really only double the cost of a Steam Deck, slightly more if you want an RTX 3060 in it (yes, I said RTX 3060). ). The Switch is great for its platform exclusives. It's not good for triple A gaming. Same applies to the Steam Deck. But at least games on Steam you will own for the PC too. Honestly, people are being idiots when it comes to the Switch and its portability. And trust me, a gaming laptop will always beat a Steam Deck with ease. No comparison, especially on the GPU side of things. It's a literal waste of money.
@@PHeMoX to say it's a waste of money isn't correct because it's really a matter of personal opinion and what experience they want from a device. a laptop is portable but not on the same scale as the Deck and you have controls built into the device. no need to carry around a controller if you want to have controller experience. the Deck is pick up and play. but you have a keyboard for controls on a laptop but that's not everyone's cup of tea. also you do get the total package with Switch as far as content on most or at least many games. that's the most important thing. but you do have examples such as FIFA on switch. that isn't a full experience to the latest games. and to scammers out their no I am not interested in any prizes to claim so don't waste your time asking because I'll report your reply ASAP!
That Wayne/Garth comment at the start actually made me laugh out loud. Bravo.
I'm so tired of you guys trying to pass off your editor as an "expert in the gaming industry" Dude worked at gamestop. This would be like me going around saying I'm an expert in the oil industry because I once worked as a cashier at a gas station.
The back and forth dialogue with your editor type of video format is kinda nice.
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The switch at launch was the first Nintendo console since the 64 that blew me away with its graphics. Just the fact that you had something your hand that could play doom, Skyrim, and BOTW. But now the switch is dated and those games aren’t as impressive. I hope the next console can blow me away. The switch is becoming a port/party game/bad Mario sport game device.
After 13 months I finally got to place my order yesterday! Excited to get it
In my opinion the Steam Deck is the ultimate handheld/portable "console."
It's so easy to compare it to the Switch (I'm guilty of this too), but in my opinion... the Switch was always a pretty crappy handheld console, but it's all we had and as a result it enticed a lot of developers and publishers to release their games on the platform. Its library and battery life alone means it will maintain a place in handheld gaming for years, but in my opinion... where the Switch excels is as a home console docked to a bigscreen TV with a Pro Controller or one of the many retro controllers available for the system. The Switch feels great as a home console permanently connected to my TV, but much, much less good in my hands.
Meanwhile, honestly--in comparison the performance, feel/comfort and user interface of the Steam Deck has impressed me as a handheld in ways that I have never been impressed before. Seriously, the thing just feels so good in the hands... its ergonomics are great, it's got a nice big screen, and the sound its speakers produces is much better than I would expect in something meant to be handheld.
I am also a major fan of Linux and free and open source operating systems in general (and a user of Linux on my desktop/laptop machines since about 2004-2006), and the Deck's compatibility with non-native applications using Proton is very impressive. Add on some serious tweaking and customizability for graphical/battery balancing and you've got a winner of a system.
The only reason I wouldn't want an Nintendo Switch 2 is that Nintendo used to be an extremely interesting and unique company. I actually thought motion controls, and the 3D on the 3DS were really cool when developers utilized the technology properly and made unique experiences
While the switch's transforming nature is cool, it doesn't have the same type of appeal as the previously mentioned innovations. Doing the same thing again we just turn them into a boring shell of their former selves, and I honestly can't say I'm too excited about that
Also if Nintendo just did whatever everyone was telling them to do at the time, they would have never made the Switch and became a third party developer after the Wii U
I was the opposite. I was with Nintendo through the Gamecube. When they came out with the Wii and other gimmicks, I bailed. Nintendo is back to pure gaming, and I’m loving the Switch. My PC is 3x as powerful, and I play Steam a bit, but I prefer the Switch
The Steam Deck and Nintendo Switch competing will benefit gamers. As a Switch owner, I love when games like Witcher 3 & Nier Automata make the ''impossible port'' jump. Being able to start your game on the couch to then gaming on the go is a MAJOR feature for gaming. Sometimes we dont want to stay glued to the desk or couch. I like to play all around the house. Nintendo has the exclusive IPs but Valve is bringing the larger library of games to handheld gamers
As a home console, the switch still feels relevant. As a handheld, there's so much more out there. If I'm going out, I always reach out for my aya neo or my iPad. Honestly I haven't had any desire to play my switch but hopefully splatoon 3 will change that.
I just installed a 1 TB drive in my steam deck literally 2 minutes ago. Finished re imaging steam os and now my 256GB drive that had like 220GB of usable space, now has a 1TB drive with 930GB of usable space! I also have a 512GB SD card in there with 468GB of usable space. So I have 1.3TB of usable space to store all my favorite games. And I could always upgrade to a 1TB or even 1.5TB (these are now coming to micro SD card size) to add another 450-950GB of usable storage. But that 1.3TB of space should be plenty for now. I can also download games at 80-100MB/S over my wifi so even large 100 GB games don’t take longer than 30-45 minutes to install. So can always uninstall games I beat. I love the thing! Also upgrading the drive was so easy. Just bought a 2230 drive on eBay and followed the ifixit guide for replacing the SSD. I love this thing!
Wrong. Sure, you can emulate Switch games. But who cares when the battery life is garbage, it’s oversized, can’t find it anywhere, etc. Oh! I forgot: no physical games.
And you still need a hacked Switch (which is already a BIT hard to get a hackable switch) so idk what's the point to buy one JUST FOR SWITCH EMULATION
Rich: it's just about flexibility. Me: It's really about FREEDOM
First party titles ensure that the Switch won't become irrelevant anytime soon. Also... well-implemented gyro controls. Gyro controls have ruined a lot of FPS type games for me on other systems and I find it infuriating when a legacy game series launches on the Switch without them (I'm looking at you Bioshock Collection). Doom and Doom Eternal play so much better on the Switch because of this that it's real easy to overlook the better graphics on newer systems. Either way, get both and be happy.
a lot of people don’t know shooters are better with motion controls. arguably the concept of movement with a mouse is the best form of motion controls but you can only do so much on a console.
I get why people like gyro controls... but god I hate them. It just always feels like they're getting in the way of my decade or so of muscle memory
I think it's just FPS too, because I love it in BotW
Your comment seems to imply gyro is a plus for Nintendo, even though Steam Deck does it better.
@@ShadowMan64572 Better? That's debatable. I'll concede that they're plenty configurable on the Deck but not quite at the level of the native implementation of certain Switch games. You have to fiddle too much compared to the Switch to get them right on the Deck. For the typical Steam Deck user this will come down to personal level of proficiency when tweaking your device. The casual user isn't going to bother. So better? Not yet, IMO .
@@Downhuman74 Idk what "fiddeling" you're talking about. By pretty much default you can use the thumbstick to convieniently enable gyro as you please, which is already better than Switch in my book. Fiddeling is only a plus, not a negative; on Switch you don't have the option to fiddle/improve, at least not to the same extent.
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My switch is an artifact at this point. Playing the entire Yakuza series on Steam Deck alone will keep me busy for months.
I would never want to re-buy my entire Steam library on switch, even if they're all available in the Switch's future. Just for the fact that my steam deck has 300+ games out the box, automatically makes it the present and future handheld successor for me. I only see Nintendo die hards picking the Switch 2 with probably 5 games out the box over the Steam Deck, with future games at that time AND all of your previous games.
I just got my steam deck in time for the summer sale. Everything is so much cheaper and if I don't like a game I can get a refund. Plus the emulation. Way more enjoyable experience
To the question “What would make me excited for Nintendo”. How bout “if you bought our game it’s on your account so you don’t need to rebuy. That and putting out their classics in a timely fashion (still no Super Mario RPG?)
Switch’s exclusives is all I care for. It’s 2022 and switch has 2007 console graphics… like when docked they look so bad.
damn didnt know mario kart 8 deluxe looks like a 2007 game lmao obvious idiot doesnt know wtf he is talking about
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I’d be inclined to agree if it weren’t for the fact that I’m coming onto a year since I reserved it and I still can’t get my Deck. Also, the fact that everything that needs to be replaced in it is proprietary and every little mod you do voids the warranty and is even pricier to replace makes it as anti-consumer as it is consumer-friendly.
just get another handheld pc. There are lots of variants out there.
So, like every other console and the switch itself? No clue what you where expecting from this
Yeah availability is also a HUGE issue. I can walk Into a store and walk out with a switch on a whim, it would take months to get my hands on a steam deck which really hurts them
Switch is the same LMAO.
@@The_Death_Owl because the switch Is using the most outdated hardware of course they crank them out like hotcakes lol
One of the biggest thing would be that Nintendo will see that people are okay with the thing being a bit bigger if it has the hardware.
Heck the Zen2/RDNA2 SOC on the Deck, they could put that in the Switch 2! The hardware is already there and now has already been tested! This would mean Nintedo can still get next-gen ports due to the PS5/XSX/XSS sharing the same Zen2/RDNA2 architecture, and thus making Switch 2 ports will much easier compared to now with the PS4/X1 -> Switch ports as they share different architecture.
Even better? That would mean if there were a port onto the Switch 2, then devs can easily put that Switch settings/optimization on the SD1.
I think a SD2 announcement with a Zen4/RDNA3 will most likely happen when a Switch 2 is dropped, so SD1 owners can get those Switch optimizations.
yh a machine that big with battery not as good isnt gonna apeal to the masses as much as the switch and lite. plus a bunch of other factors.
It doesn't make sense to complain about the Switch's hardware when the Switch 2 is right around the corner.
Wow, Rich saying something is irrelevant.
The hippie is like a guy trying to convince a girl not to leave him…..
Maybe the single worst take that's ever been given. Steam Dreck has zero exclusives and its library is better played on a far more capable rig. Switch has world-class exclusives you can't get anywhere else. To say nothing of the insane cost of the Dreck.
You can play spiderman and god of war on the go with a steam deck and theirs way cooler games that you cant get on switch that you can get on a steam deck. Oh gee cant wait to go play skyrim on my switch
@@bigchungus7050 technically even switches exclusives can be played on the steam deck I've seen ppl emulate switch games so the steam deck so you can even play Nintendo exclusives even f it's not a main stream way, as well as what you said about playing god of war, and spiderman games and other high tier games
How is $400-600 insane?
@@nicoloreynolds4979 dude you totally missed the whole point. dude said play those games on a better compatible rig meaning play your God of War on your Playstation. the switch isn't for crazy graphics. it's to play super smash bros, Zelda games. Mario games. I don't see what you don't understand. you just want to be ignorant
@@Liquid12322 I don't see how I'm being ignorant lol I didn't miss any points, my point was yes you can still technically play the exclusives on the switch on steam deck
I'm in another state for 3 months for a summer job. I left my Switch back home and only took my Steam Deck. And I have zero regrets.
The Steam Deck will never outsell the Switch even if you factor in calculating the price. And the steam deck relies on third parties for their games while Nintendo has so many original IPs that rival or are even better than MS and PS IPs.
I agree, there's just not enough production to even match Nintendo's sales for 20% before the deck is "obsolete"
That, and they don't really market it. Nintendo is mainstream for a reason
This is a tactic for Steam Deck owners to NOT feel like they wasted their money. By the end of the year Switch will have (what we know so far)
Live A Live
Bayo 3
Pokemon S/V
Xenoblade Chronicles 3
Metroid Prime Remake
Splatoon 3
and
Mario + Rabbids 2
_None_ of which can be played on Steam Deck. That's not even talking BOTW2. Steam Deck is an expensive novelty, nothing more.
@@Gambit2483 I'm extremely concerned about Splatoon 3 unfortunately, as Strikers Battle League and Switch Sports proves Nintendo has been getting a bit too confident as they are rushing out games and setting unreasonable deadlines for developers like Camelot and NLG, so they can use their "free content update" model, and I am worried Splatoon 3 will ultimately fall into that trap.
@@hellacia8151 I wouldn't worry. Nintendo ALWAYS adds extra content to (most) of their games. That's a given. If anything they might add some new stages or weapons or story stuff but the base game, like Splatoon 2, will already have plenty of that to begin with.
@@Gambit2483 give it a few and we'll be emulating them just fine
Not to mention the thousands of games we're playing on the deck that the switch cannot.
Deck is a PC, PC has it's audience.
Where is the steam deck available? Outside us?I haven't seen it .Switches worldwide though
Love these videos with Jay
Thank you! -Jay
To the point made around the 23-minute mark: PLEASE, bring back the Miiverse along with better eShop UI, more intuitive friend interaction and online infrastructure. No more Animal Crossing-type shenanigans where we have to stop in place and wait 5 minutes for each villager to load in.
That's the next step for the Switch 2/Pro.
If they can give us some more battery life worth the money, I’ll definitely get my hands on a steam deck.
Want more battery life, reduce the graphical settings or cap the framerate 40fps.
depends on what you play on what settings, if you can manage that the battery life is decent
Loving my Steam Deck and it's open platform nature, it's a fit for me (minus d-pad) but, it's not for everyone.
It's a PC gamer's handheld so with freedom with it the work to make it shine, for PC gamers that's half the fun.
For average "just game go, pay online fee whatever" gamers, it's extra work but it's an invitation to go up a level.
18:00 Steam Deck can do this if you have a PC on your TV, run Steam Link to stream from or to Deck.
I use Steam Link app with my laptop to either use the deck as a controller or my keyboard/mouse with the deck.
Rich Tomorrow: I hate the Steam Deck
Rich the day after: The Steam Deck Is Irrelevant
Rich the day after that: I was wrong about the Steam Deck
the guy with the hat looks like skinny Jonah Friedlander
The steam deck can emulate switch games and play it alot better.
Yeah, no…not every game will run on the emulators and definitely not flawlessly on the deck.
@@its-amestarlord every single game run flawlessy just need to switch between yuzu and ryujinx if one has compatible issues.
@@its-amestarlord botw2 in 4k
Great see Jay, and is his site still called Bits or other name? awesome talk and info
I’ve always thought of the switch as a playable cartridge and the dock as the “console”…. Play a game in handheld and then pop it in the dock and the dock boosts the output…. That should be the future of the switch
Great video guys, loved it. My way of thinking is this, 3 systems, a hybrid like the standard, a handheld only, like the lite and a home only, more powerful and without a screen, you have a system for everyone. And for the love of God Nintendo, fix those damn Joycons...
glad you decided to stay brother.
I understand that opinion. I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t as pumped for switch as I used to be. Still love it though but it’s getting used less.
It’s different now for me because all my friends and even some family got switches, so even though I had it for almost half a decade, the last 2 years were the push for literally everyone else in my life to hop on. I just can’t see some of those people getting a steam deck.
So now it’s a lot of online and wireless multiplayer content I couldn’t fully enjoy prior (we started playing Diablo 3 after immortal pooped the bed but got my friends interested in it, def recommend), but it’s all games I’ve played before.
I’ve played the big third party ports, the 10 year old console ports, the Nintendo IPs I care about, and the switch outings were great for the most part. The lots of Wii U ports I bought twice.
But like, what’s next?
I noticed recently that with a few exceptions, most of the games I own were released in the first 2ish years of the console’s life.
Friends and family are obsessed because all of this is new to them, and honestly, especially for people who have been away from gaming for a bit, the best time to get in if you haven’t is probably now because the backlog is impressive. But there’s a good chunk of people who have been there did that years ago. Waiting for that next big thing to keep me from party pooper status.
Switch is much cheaper (especially if you go lite like i did), has exclusives, has gyro controls, is smaller and more compact for travel, and is more comfortable to hold and use for dudes with average size hands like me. If you have the money the steam deck could be good for you but it's clearly different products for different demographics and certainly not irrelevant.
I agree with you, I think the steam deck is pretty cool. Don't get me wrong but not everyone can afford it. I like my PC and my Xbox 360 and my Nintendo switch just the way they are
The "Switch is cheaper" argument is laughable. Steam has its Summer Sale going on. Please go and compare prices with Steam and eShop. The price difference is stunning, and we all know we spend far more on game libraries than on the machines we play them on. The Switch lite is one of the most uncomfortable handhelds. I own both a Switch lite and Steam Deck. The Steam deck is absolutely more comfortable to hold regardless of hand size.
Steam deck also has gyro and exclusives
@@Cakebattered dude? We weren't arguing. We were just saying our opinions.
@@MrSacrafice we know that but the one problem is not all of us can afford it, Also it's really hard to even get one for me. To be honest I absolutely loved how the steam deck looks do not get me wrong even if I did get one. I would just play Transformers war for Cybertron on it and my other Steam games and that's about it. I like the consoles I've have just the way they are. No problem
This has been another exiting episode of Rich And Jay's The Nippling!
I’m supposed to be able to order mine this month 🥰
the best selling point for the steam deck is the emulation (for me) all to Nintendo switch is the best thing about it.
since i don't have to pay for these stupid prices for switch online for games that Nintendo only chooses, not me
I cannot wait to buy a steam deck
thats not true.. I play the switch for Nintendo games not just to play something that's just mobile. this video is kinda eh.. I actually play my switch more then my Xbox series x nowadays
The steam decks successor will eventually make the switch irrelevant for some of us.
With that i mean it will be able to emulate it accurately enough.
I wonder how Nintendo would react if the Steam deck outsold the Switch.
Probably won't happen. They aren't making the damn thing easily accessible to buy.
The Switch is probably close to 120mil by now, not happening.
They'd actually make a sequel, it's the only time they ever do whenever sales drop
Wish that could happen, won't though that's fantasy land talk.
Didn’t the wwe 2k game have a problem with the switch version of the game ? Because of the hardware?
No it was bad on all consoles also NBA 2K and FIFA soccer run fine on the switch
No, theres no waitlist for purchasing a switch.
true, rich doesn't even what he is talking about.
@@johnbazan8674 And most people that is praising for the "Steam Deck" like manchildren.
I see a lot of Nintendo fans complain about the existence of third party games, and I don't get it. Even if their exclusives are super popular, having other games is always nice.
For me you just can't beat Nintendo games
true, xenoblade, zelda, metroid, and even exclusive square games.
Switch is so Irrelevant that Valve just put Portal Collection on the system. Thanks Valve, it runs fantastic 😉
Need an OLED screen.
Here's hoping someone releases an oled mod screen for the Deck considering how easy repairs can be made.
Fun fact Rich: Mortal Kombat ii on the SNES was Nintendo’s first mature rated game to be uncensored and have gratuitous blood and gore. Though was because of Nintendo’s former rival Sega with the first Mortal Kombat on the Genesis being uncensored and selling for that system 3 to 1. Bottom line: money, money, money, monnnnney. Money.
I’m not buying anything third party on switch again, and that was a huge selling point for the switch for me initially… so now it’s just Nintendo exclusives for me
Wow, it's almost like it's been that way for 20 years
@@husseinrose4883 the third party games being portable was a huge deal for me when the switch came out and made Nintendo third party worth it, but now they’re just irrelevant since the steam deck is here.
@DigitalAlpha exactly
I never buy ports on the Switch, I only get the exclusives or the games I know will happen like Smash, Mario, Zelda, ect
I dont think steam deck will kill the switch, however I wouldn't go back to the switch after getting my steam deck. If you game on pc mainly then you have that massive library, the store always has sales, new titles coming out and with great performance. Nintendo is very over rated in my opinion, their first party titles are good but, I honestly dont think they compare to elden ring, god of war, gta, rdd2. And their pricing is ridiculous, paying £50 -£60 price for a game and it would probably never drop. This has been pretty dry for games so far but compared to switch first party games have been none to nothing. You can make the switch as powerful as you want, but if your mainly just putting out indi games.. you just done need it.
Here is the problem. How would you convince someone to buy a steam deck if they already have a pc? Like legit people always say that pc is the best way to play, I’ve had a pc for 2 years now and I still don’t see the hype for it. Sure there are some games I can’t play on my other consoles but legit graphics and frame rate I don’t ever see a difference from a console.
Loading time is about it. And honestly you could buy a backbone for an iPhone and then use the steam streaming service to play your steam games on the go. Or even the Xbox cloud gaming
It's basically nice to have, but not really a need for one.
PC is about options, not just about graphics and framerate.
Also, as someone who games on a 120Hz OLED, I'd still say lol to not seeing a difference in performance.
Anyway, I have a Steam Deck too, why would I not? I can take my already bought games on the go.
Portability. Simple.
I noticed a big difference in frames and resolution vs the PS4 and Xbox1, and I only had a mid-level gaming laptop. I imagine the current gen consoles are much closer to PC, but last gen it wasn’t even comparable.
@@teuvoalmgren9857 people act like there is a huge difference in frame rate but don’t realize that most humans can only see between 30 to 60.
The fact that people have to go super ultra graphics and frame rate when it comes to games is ridiculous and stupid. Plus it makes no sense saying one has a 120hz monitor for gaming on but then be ok with going back to 60 when using the steam deck because “pc master race”
As of now I don’t think the SD is a threat to the switch. The switch’s target audience is kids to young adults. Even though all ages enjoy the switch I think it’s catered more towards the youth. The different colors, the mystique of it all. Not to mention all the nostalgia that comes with Nintendo games and products. On top of the accessibility and cheaper price of the switch. Overall, I think the youth, and casual gamers are drawn more toward the switch whereas more hardcore and sound gamers would gravitate towards the Steam Deck. But who knows where we stand in the next 5 years