more of these high power set ups should force Ionity to reduce prices to be more price competitive. Great to see the Gridserve/Ecotricity in action, its brought the Electric Highway out of the dawn of charging to the future.
Assumed this video was coming after you'd said you'd been there on the P2 FB forum. As a relative newcomer to EVs this is brilliant to see, I've only made one long journey so far and having decent chargers at motorway services would've made a huge difference to the experience. Thanks for the video.
No problem thanks! I stopped here on the way home and was super impressed. Things like this will make long trips in an eV so much easier. Really nicer service station too.
Great video, thanks for posting. I wasn't aware there was a new site being built there so it's good to know for future journeys. With regards Ionity, they are trying to create their version of the Tesla network but I think they're rolling them out too slowly and the likes of Electric Highway, Gridserve and BP Pulse (who I believe also plan to roll out loads of larger scale hubs) have stolen a march on them. In 12-18 months time when there are lots more charging hubs all competitively priced, buying a car which is part of the Ionity network won't really mean much as there will be so much competition that you will be able to travel around the UK no problems without Ionity. As for fast AC, I don't think you can expect new charging hubs to support an old standard which is only on a handful of aging cars.
I was there yesterday afternoon as well. I found the leads a little tight as they are located on the right of the pump and my I-Pace charger is on the front nearside wing. Pump needs adjustment as I only got around 40 kWh speed. Guy from charging company said he saw 183 speed from another car on a different pump.
Perfect for when I visit my daughter near Northampton :) I've yet to use a public charger for my PS2, this'll probably be one of my first. Cheers Bradley
It's a bit disappointing that Ecotricity and it's investors are able to profit from 10 years of camping on prime locations and actively inhibiting charger roll-out, but it's definitely good that the UK motorway network will finally get a proper charging network installed. For sure that long line of tritiums + superchargers does make it look like EV's are a legitimate mainstream option now. Even better would be if all the other motorists have to walk past the EV chargers to get into the services :) It was clear once the real costs got announced that Ionity was always intended to be used as a carrot for VW/BMW/Merc etc. to sell their cars: "Look, if you buy our cars you can get cheap charging on a truly international network". I think they really wanted to take the Tesla route and have a closed network, but the bean counters realised that by charging PFO rates for buyers of other cars they could effectively have that AND get €30M of EU taxpayer support cos the network is "open to all".
So are these 350Kw chargers 400V or 800V? Trying to determine if I need the 400V/270Kw option in a new Taycan and can't find anywhere that tells me the voltage they operate at! The Tritium charger seems to be spec'd at 'up to 950V Dc' so I'm wondering if they determine voltage during the handshake....
Promising, but just over 90kW and yet well below 90% or even 80% charge level? SUrely the Polestar even as sold in the UK could exploit more of that 350kW potential. Or is that just when there's nobody else charging at the same time?
The Polestar reaches 150 kW charging speed from around 20-25% then it ramps down. The average charging speed from 10-80% is about 92 kW, meaning it takes about 35 minutes in ideal conditions.
Yes peak speed on the Polestar is at a lower percentage and is only possible with a warm battery. These chargers are beyond what most cars can actually take advantage of now but in the next few years we will see more cars on the road that are capable of charging at 100kw+.
The Taycan charges at 260-270kW from 1% to about 45% then ramps down to 200kW for a while. Battery does need to be about 90F, but it preheats if charger is in the navigation.
My last BMW 320D ED got 68.9mpg and cost roughly 10p per mile. It can help to reverse all the way to those bumpers. They are there to help make sure your car is close enough without hitting the chargers. :) I’m still waiting for my receipt from my last Braintree visit a couple of weeks ago. I hope they get better at this part.
True re the BMW 320D, those were very efficient! I had a 535d that managed about 38mpg on long runs. Great car but very thirsty and still way less powerful than a Tesla or Polestar.
@@ShortCircuitPS2 I took my Model 3 to Rugby services today. The car said the average over the return trip was about 214wh/m over a distance of about 347 miles. I was quite happy with that. :)
more of these high power set ups should force Ionity to reduce prices to be more price competitive. Great to see the Gridserve/Ecotricity in action, its brought the Electric Highway out of the dawn of charging to the future.
Very good development for electric driving and good for rivaling the Ionity mob which is really necessary and thanks for sharing.
Assumed this video was coming after you'd said you'd been there on the P2 FB forum.
As a relative newcomer to EVs this is brilliant to see, I've only made one long journey so far and having decent chargers at motorway services would've made a huge difference to the experience.
Thanks for the video.
No problem thanks! I stopped here on the way home and was super impressed. Things like this will make long trips in an eV so much easier. Really nicer service station too.
Wow it looks sooo good - great its been put next to the superchargers as it looks even more epic with so many stalls
Keep up the great work on the videos, im about to sign on the dotted line for a Polestar, and your videos are warming me closer to the pen! Thanks :D
Great video, thanks for posting. I wasn't aware there was a new site being built there so it's good to know for future journeys.
With regards Ionity, they are trying to create their version of the Tesla network but I think they're rolling them out too slowly and the likes of Electric Highway, Gridserve and BP Pulse (who I believe also plan to roll out loads of larger scale hubs) have stolen a march on them. In 12-18 months time when there are lots more charging hubs all competitively priced, buying a car which is part of the Ionity network won't really mean much as there will be so much competition that you will be able to travel around the UK no problems without Ionity.
As for fast AC, I don't think you can expect new charging hubs to support an old standard which is only on a handful of aging cars.
Helpful video. Nice to see that site up and running.
Thanks for the information 👍
Wow those are Tritium Charging chargers. Huge Australian company. Also made a video on this what a surprise. Officially subbed to your channel
Great facility but why no roof over it? Every petrol station forecourt has shelter so why not a 21st century charging facility?
Yep it could have solar panels too, which would in time help reduce the cost and make it more profitable, whilst keeping the drivers dry!!
I was there yesterday afternoon as well. I found the leads a little tight as they are located on the right of the pump and my I-Pace charger is on the front nearside wing. Pump needs adjustment as I only got around 40 kWh speed. Guy from charging company said he saw 183 speed from another car on a different pump.
Perfect for when I visit my daughter near Northampton :) I've yet to use a public charger for my PS2, this'll probably be one of my first. Cheers Bradley
Playstation 2?
Our cars looks so good....
It's a bit disappointing that Ecotricity and it's investors are able to profit from 10 years of camping on prime locations and actively inhibiting charger roll-out, but it's definitely good that the UK motorway network will finally get a proper charging network installed. For sure that long line of tritiums + superchargers does make it look like EV's are a legitimate mainstream option now. Even better would be if all the other motorists have to walk past the EV chargers to get into the services :)
It was clear once the real costs got announced that Ionity was always intended to be used as a carrot for VW/BMW/Merc etc. to sell their cars: "Look, if you buy our cars you can get cheap charging on a truly international network". I think they really wanted to take the Tesla route and have a closed network, but the bean counters realised that by charging PFO rates for buyers of other cars they could effectively have that AND get €30M of EU taxpayer support cos the network is "open to all".
Very informative.
So are these 350Kw chargers 400V or 800V?
Trying to determine if I need the 400V/270Kw option in a new Taycan and can't find anywhere that tells me the voltage they operate at! The Tritium charger seems to be spec'd at 'up to 950V Dc' so I'm wondering if they determine voltage during the handshake....
I've just read that the digital key beta for Polestar 2 is out.. Is that something you're able to opt in for to test, or is it random who can use it?
Is the equipment made by the same manufacturers which do Ionity? The equipment and UI look very similar.
Promising, but just over 90kW and yet well below 90% or even 80% charge level? SUrely the Polestar even as sold in the UK could exploit more of that 350kW potential. Or is that just when there's nobody else charging at the same time?
That’s exactly what I thought. 350 kW but only at 89 seems a bit disappointing.
The Polestar reaches 150 kW charging speed from around 20-25% then it ramps down. The average charging speed from 10-80% is about 92 kW, meaning it takes about 35 minutes in ideal conditions.
Yes peak speed on the Polestar is at a lower percentage and is only possible with a warm battery. These chargers are beyond what most cars can actually take advantage of now but in the next few years we will see more cars on the road that are capable of charging at 100kw+.
The Taycan charges at 260-270kW from 1% to about 45% then ramps down to 200kW for a while. Battery does need to be about 90F, but it preheats if charger is in the navigation.
which service station were you at? Near Rugby you say....Is it Hilton Park?
I think it’s Moto Services - Rugby
My last BMW 320D ED got 68.9mpg and cost roughly 10p per mile.
It can help to reverse all the way to those bumpers. They are there to help make sure your car is close enough without hitting the chargers. :)
I’m still waiting for my receipt from my last Braintree visit a couple of weeks ago. I hope they get better at this part.
True re the BMW 320D, those were very efficient! I had a 535d that managed about 38mpg on long runs. Great car but very thirsty and still way less powerful than a Tesla or Polestar.
@@ShortCircuitPS2 I took my Model 3 to Rugby services today. The car said the average over the return trip was about 214wh/m over a distance of about 347 miles. I was quite happy with that. :)
Only thing I'd say is why have an electric car if it cost more to run and diesel
Am I missing something but I've no idea of whereabouts on the M6!
M6 J1, the new services. Short distance from the M1
Single site serves north and south carriageways. Site is on A426 which connects Rugby to the A5. This is at Junction 1 of M6.
Well if they are going to replace all existing chargers with no AC capability that is very very disappointing for many Zoe owners
Yes I hope it isn't the case.
Your head twisting back and forth is making me dizzy!