Doctor Who: Revelation of the Daleks Effects Comparison
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- In 2005, Revelation of the Daleks received (optional) new effects for its DVD release, sadly the Jimi Hendrix song Fire could not be cleared so a piece of BBC Library Music was mixed in - rather poorly - instead. Here is a comparison of the updated footage with the original footage alongside the 5.1 sound mix present on the DVD.
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The bit where her dad changes into Dalek meat is SO DARK
I'm glad they improved the shot of the flying Dalek. It was pretty poor before.
Aye. The new model work for that shot is incredible.
It's certainly creepier and impressive. However, I still want to know why it blows up afterwards.
I’m sure the novelisation would provide a proper answer.
Agreed, in the original shot it was hard to make out what was supposed to be going on for the most part.
@@DanTheMan2150AD Sadly the novelisation cuts the Dalek entirely and replaces it with 3 non-levitating ones.
When fans saw Davros' mechanical hand for the first time in the new series, they were probably thinking of his episode.
That plus how’d he get half his body back after he was just a head in Remembrance
@@pcb1175 The head was fake. Davros pretty much did a Wizard of Oz thing.
@@buhe1 I’m referring his appearance in Remembrance, not Revelation where he did that.
@@pcb1175 Oh' that was simply a container he was inside. He still had his body. He even move forward a bit with his head and shoulders when he revealed himself.
@@buhe1 When hevrevealed himself? The dirty old git.
Easily Colin's best televised story.
The very first classic Doctor Who dalek story I saw the sequence with the glass Dalek scared the hell out of me, I also loved how they improved Dalek flying scene as when I first saw I had no idea what was going on with the Dalek
Awesome how they improved the visual effects for the 2005 DVD. Also cool how some of these Classic Who DVDs and Blu-rays allow viewers the option to watch episodes with the new effects or with the old effects.
The effects certainly for these 70's and mid 80's stories are certainly needed. 👍
4:33
Easily the best classic extermination effect, even without the 2005 tweak. Really creepy.
While it's great they improved Davros's Sith like lightning bolt, the only thing I wish they could fix at 2:47 is have Davros appear behind Orcini's legs rather than in front of his legs. Cuz Davros looks as though he's shrunk in size as he's attacking Orcini. But I guess the BBC was on a tight budget when doing these new effects and couldn't afford to do such challenging compositing or rotoscoping.
Given the technology at the time I imagine it was the case of budget. Nowadays it would be quite a simple fix, I’m pretty sure there’s a fan fix on TH-cam somewhere as well
@@DanTheMan2150AD Yes probably.
@@AndrewChapman found it: th-cam.com/video/nD9AZnlJn7w/w-d-xo.html
@@DanTheMan2150AD Thanks for that. Just seen it, looks so much better.
4:40 Without a doubt, the 2005 version of this Dalek battle is better. Both sides are actually moving around, not like the freeze-frame-esque one in 1985.
And they got rid of the pathetic malfunction.
Anyone else notice in the 5.1 surround mix they added part of the planet of the daleks gun sound effect in some scenes?
This story scared the crap out of me as a kid. Still does. Not sure why.
Possibly the glass dalek scene😐
The added scream at 3:24 makes it pretty grim.
What the hell was wrong with tat dalek?
It was actually always there but in the new effects version they made it louder since the noise of the Dalek in the original means you can beardy here tar the scream
3:22 I guess this technically means the first hovering Dalek was in this story?
But only retroactively.
Not even retroactively, it flew in the original version it was just incredibly hard to make out due to the angle and lighting.
@@DanTheMan2150AD I thought the first time a Dalek flew was meant to be in remembrance? Though here Davros is also shown flying so not too far fetched.
There were meant to be others. When Orcini blows up a Dalek in the grounds it was originally meant to be two flying Daleks. A special catapult was rigged out of a spring-mounted disk which would project a special light-weight Dalek prop which was fitted out with explosives so that Orsini could blow it up mid-flight. The unexpected snow during filming apparently made this difficult to pull off so they abandoned the idea at the last minute.
I always assumed that Daleks were meant to hover from the outset on the basis that they were able to get up the steps on Westminster Bridge and on the Marie Celeste. I just assumed that the technological and budgetary restrictions prevented us from seeing this. But Douglas Adams, who in my opinion was no good for the show, wrote that reference to Daleks not being able to climb stairs in Destiny and ruined the illusion that they were all- powerful conquerors, just in order to get a cheap gag out of them.
@@GrilloTheFlightless The stair gag was good tho :)
I always wondered why Graeme Harper didn't just have a close up cutaway of Davros looking down on Orcini, then if William Gaunt had to move his legs like that they wouldn't disappear up Davros' jaxxy (a disembodied lightning bolt or a shot of Davros' hand would have been so simple - I like to think we could work out he was floating above him, even if we'd never seen a Dalek go "wheeeee" before...).
1:11 were his crimes chewing the scenery a tad too much? There’s more ham than Shatner in that death scene.
Surprised his last words weren’t *Oh my*
A Day of the Daleks-style Nick Briggs voice update would’ve been nice...
These are not Kaled Mutant Daleks, as you can see from Stengos' head they are human conversions so a human ish voice is accurate. Perhaps Briggs could voice the gray Daleks though.
@@eddherring3088 Years ago I read an interview in which Graham Harper said he thought the voices would be further treated in post production which was why they sounded the way they do. Since then the theory follows that these are human derived Daleks hence the voice not being fully modulated. I think Harper must have heard this relayed back to him and over the years has now come to believe this himself, but what bears out his original comments is as you note, the Skaro Daleks sound exactly the same as the Necros ones.
There's a deleted scene where the doctor pulls out one of davroses fingers from his nose after it gets shot off
The laser beams in classic Doctor who look like something I can make in Microsoft paint😂
Probably cause they used even less primitive technology than that.
2:49 reminds me of Star Wars, when The Emperor tries to kill Luke
This was done for "Destiny" so don't understand why it wasn't done for "Resurrection" as well and why in the recently remastered "Planet Of The Daleks" they didn't have Dalek energy weapon beam effects on par with the remastered "Day Of The Daleks".
There also seem to be many audio changes, especially when it comes to the Dalek voices & lines
There’s an Easter egg that shows why: they got the surviving actors in to re-record some lines for the 5.1 sound mix.
2:49 extra glow and wavier lightning, but William Gaunt's right leg still disappears *behind* Davros, who is some distance away.
One of my favourite stories and the new effects are amazing
Glad I found this video! It confirms my suspicion that the new blu-ray set is missing the 2005 updated FX from the scene where Orsini and Bostok attack Davros’s lab. Has anybody else noticed this? Also, the explosion from Orsini’s final scene seems to be the original effect too… All the other effects seem to have the updated effects though.
The Blu-ray version is also missing certain shots at the start of episode 2.
4:49 i do like the more stereophonic take on the lazer effects - makes it more believable - also nice use of the planet of the daleks sound effect when someone is exterminated
1:23 phenomenal acting......
I swear I actually thought he was going to sip the drink before keeling over!
I like the old effects because they stick true to when this episode was made
I always forget that Alexei Sayle was in this!
Love
Tom
Here is a Dalek Story that needs a SFX visual upgrade. Resurrection of the Daleks!!!
The flash light weapons doesn’t help. Not even the acting of death.
If you listen carefully while Davros is floating while shocking Orcini you can hear the same sound effect as when the flying Dalek kills the body snatchers meaning that was the sound effect used for hovering Daleks if they had more of an appearance in the story
Sad fact they considered Jimmy Savile before they chose Alexi Sayle for the DJ
They also considered DLT and John Peel who have also acquired ‘reputations’. The idea to use a real DJ was eventually abandoned for fear that the audience would identify too much with the personality and not the character.
I remember certainly not being sad about Tasembeker's demise
Sorry, what is that pixelated effect at 3:27 in the original? Was that always there? It looks bloody awful!
Yeah that was always there
Most of the effects were ok as they were, a lot of this looks like a spot-the-difference puzzle. And at 2:48 William Gaunt's leg still disappears behind Davros, which has akways been pointed out as a botched effect.
1985; POW POW
2005: PEW PEW
Crikey, is that Eleanor Bron?
Orcini and Bostock were 2 of the best supporting characters in classic DW.
Have some of the sound effects been changed for this video? I swear I've never heard the Planet of The Daleks extermination effect during these scenes
Yes. The 5.1 mix on the DVD is a ground up reworking of the original sound mix with newly recorded dialogue and effects.
@@DanTheMan2150AD I never even knew there was a 5.1 mix
3:21 is that the first time the daleks have every flew before?
No
@@DanTheMan2150AD ohh. Kinda looks like it.
@@TimeForTeletubbiesFAN they first technically flew onscreen in the first episode of The Chase. This story just made it more overt.
That Dalek scream at 3:18 sounds like Nick Briggs! Very Nice!
Good video 👍
2005 is better on every scene
4:39 Exterminate Obey Exterminate Obey You will Obey Exterminate! Exterminate
Alright, I’ll take you to-“
Such a violent episode.
Cracking story. I wish the dvd had been given an option for new Dalek voices as the Dalek voices in this story suck terribly. I hope once it gets a blu ray release the voices arr updated. The Necros Daleks could do with an Imperial/Reconissance Drone Dalek style voice
It would be a shame to lose Roy Skelton’s voice. I wonder if there’s a way they can take the original sound recording and beef up the effect digitally.
@@GrilloTheFlightless that's more what I was meaning yeah. If Roy skeltons voice could be treated electronically but made to resemble classic Daleks that would be great
Is this version included in the Season 22 blu ray box set?
Yes although it’s missing a few of the new effects due to an oversight in the disc pressings.
@@DanTheMan2150AD I see. That’s a real shame. Might have to get the DVD version if I ever see it out in the open like at convention then.
Most of it is good though I prefer the original version of the firs exploding dalek in the video.
Great improvement, only wished they removed Alexei Sayles dumb character which ruins it.
Colin is hardly in this video - much like the episode itself, eh?!
Yes I agree, davros is male
The story was entertainment. ..the effects old and new were...meh...
I can’t believe people actually prefer the tampered version. If people don’t like old special effects then they shouldn’t watch old shows or movies with old special effects. It’s not an improvement.
Its a pity they didnt re do the awful dalek voices as well
They did but it was kept as is due to Mark wishing to preserve part of original sound mix when creating the 5.1
1985 is better
But the dalek voice update from the 2005 version is a bit better than the original 1985
Can't see much of an improvement, to be honest.
Original effects are always better.
Not always
@@DanTheMan2150AD Yes they are, because it was a product of its time and the people who worked on them. Changing the effects is not only out of place, but changes the entire intention of the original creators.
Lol no.
Just need to fix the terrible acting
01:22 ... Sadly, I see the embarrassing over-acting COULDN'T be computer enhanced? 👎🤣 ... He must have trained at RAODDE (The Royal Academy of Overly-Dramatic Dalek Exterminations)
04:22 ... Apparently, the above also applies to Alexei Sayle! 👎🤣
04:53 ... Ageing Pony-Tailed "Champion" William Gaunt in Kinky Black Leather Trousers! ... Now there's something you can't unsee? 👎🤮 ... Tremayne and Nemesis would raise an eyebrow!
Why not re-make the whole flipping story every twenty years, when the previous version starts looking shite? Are they putting new effects over the shite computer images in Eccleston's Dr. Who stories yet? Can only be a matter of time.