What makes this scene even better is that it was revealed in the expanded media that the Kaled government also used this tactic during the war. Afterall, dead bodies were the only things that Skaro had an abundance of. Meaning that, to Davros, this is simply the logical conclusion and he sees no real issues with it
Exactly, meanwhile, everyone didn't have that experience tailored specifically to Davros and he saw no abhorrence to it. He of all people would be baffled by everyone's reaction to it. Even on Skaro, some people were taken aback by it.
I personally believe that bodies should be recycled, but not in the immediately BBQ your dead comrade way. I see value in harvesting organs and marrow to save lives. I know some people argue that we could use bodies as fertilizer, but I feel like people should at least get to have the ashes or a burial of their loved one.
@@felixader A famous example of reusing bodies, or just straight up cannibalism, is the Donner Party. When party members would starve and freeze to death (Or maybe they just straight up killed them) the other members would eat them. Even though the bodies were already starved, they were still able to survive off of it. You can still get some nutritional value from the organs and bone marrow, but you're right, it won't be healthy or have be good quality. We do have to remember that people do these things in the act of desperation, if you're starving, you won't be thinking about the future health consequences.
"But did you bother to tell anyone they might be eating their relatives?" "Certainly not. That would have created what I believe is termed 'consumer resistance'." People who don't appreciate this particular story don't see that an exchange like that is classic.
There's something chilling yet compelling about how little severity Davros treats cannibalism by proxy. He's a man so divorced from empathy and a normal worldview that he treats what he's done like a completely reasonable solution to a problem. To him the Doctor is the weird one for being disgusted
especially when you add in the underlying detail that davros came from a planet that for the last 1000 years has been warring and fighting into oblivion. food would have been hard to grow, and death was common. so bodies were quickly seen as wasted meat
It's might not be a lack of empathy it might just be a cultural thing. In the expanded universe the Kaleds resorted to this during the later phases of the war. So their no reason to find anything wrong with it as its normal to him and his people
I absolutely love the way The Doctor says "You turned them into food...?" And how Davros just turns away, caught up in his own delusions of grandeur. This and the "Yes, I would do it" are my favourite Davros/Doctor moments because they show off the contrast between the two so fantastically
I like the subtle look of disgust on the Sixth Doctors face at the end of this clip. Very well played by Colin Baker who to my mind was one of the more under-rated actors to have played the role.
Colin Baker is an absolute gem of a person, but got completely shafted by JNT and the BBC. I still hope he'll get the big popular starring role that he actually deserves.
@Timetraveller2092 Well, im a fan and shes my favourite... so. Also Id hardly call over 4 million people "no one" 🤣. Also last I checked Colin Baker is too a fan of Jodie Whittaker. You need to learn to be more accepting and to listen to the messages this show carries, mocking peoples gender, sexuality or race is against everything the show stands for, in the sense it's quite cruel and cowardly
"Consumer resistance" Oh Davros, you've been exterminated, resurrected, frozen (while conscious) and infected by a virus designed for Daleks but you've still got a sense of humour :D
_"Dear Sir! I must strongly object to this depiction of cannibalism in Doctor Who. The very idea of promoting the eating of reprocessed corpses is a terrible thing to show to children instead of the far more wholesome imagery of people being blasted down by guns, bombs and lasers which is more in line with the virtues of British culture. Yours sincerely, Brigadier O.W. Smethig in a white wine sauce with mushrooms, onion, chives and sharp cheddar."_
They have a very Batman and Joker relationship. The two play off each other well and, in a twisted way, you could see them being colleagues or even possibly friends in different circumstances. Davros, like the Master, was one of his greatest opponents.
@@angelangelis8362 And much like the Joker Davros seems to underplay how much his enemy hates him. To the Joker Batman completes him, but all Batman sees in the Joker is a monster that won't leave him alone
I think that's what I love about him. He's basically a cat (hence the badge). Quick to lash out, often hungry, gentle if abrasive with his friends and suspicious of strangers, though he finds it easy to be enticing when he wants to be too.
As I delve further into the classic Who series, I keep finding myself in awe of the wonderful Colin Baker's 6th Doctor! He's ruthless, daring, cunning, arrogant, smarmy, rude, mean & sometimes uncaring to his companions, but then as his run moved along, he finally became pretty endearing & genuinely awesome as Doctors go. I think Colin got robbed of a long opportunity because of utter poppycock! Anyway, I will go on record as saying Colin's 6th Doctor is fabulous & I loved his patchwork coat! #6IsMyFavoriteClassicDoctor
Melissa Hash He was a great Doctor, very much like how Capaldi played the Doctor, the more uncaring and unsympathetic he seems the more you realise he is the opposite. You can just see the Sixth saying in 1985/6: *“Peri, tell me... am I a good man?”*
Can we just give credit to Terry Molloy here for his excellent performance as Davros. I’d definitely says his incarnation of Davros is the most Dramatic and Shakespearian. He is so effective in delivering even the simplest of lines and making them become so iconic. I only wish we had gotten more stories with Terry Molloy as Davros in classic who as I think he’s definitely my favourite in terms of his line delivery. Well done To him for managing to make the character as iconic as in his first appearance. Xx
And being eaten by a T-Rex and sucked into a black hole, I'm sure there are more. It helps to have popular villain immortality. But Davros takes the cake, he's been shot by a Dalek, frozen in a block of ice, infected with a deadly incurable virus, had his hand shot off, blown up in a spaceship three times. Hell, I don't think even the Joker has been killed off this many times only to magically survive.
"Do you never do anything but kill?" Isn't that a bit of an understatement, Doctor? You are talking to Davros, the creator of the Daleks who exterminates any life forms that is not Dalek.
If you watch _Genesis of the Daleks,_ you realize that Davros never originally intended the Daleks to be genocidal maniacs. They are more of an experiment that got out of control; Davros proposed that in order to create the perfect soldier in their war against the Thals, emotion needed to be eliminated from them. The Daleks becoming genocidal was actually a result of them responding to their genetic impulses without any moral filter -- they even turned on Davros at the end of that story.
@@sixstanger00 His rant about unleashing a virus to kill absolutely everything and how the Daleks will give him the ability to do just that kind of belies the idea that they were ever intended to be anything but genocidal maniacs, not to mention that Davros himself pulled a genocide on the Kaleds then on the Thals as well.
Julian Bleach is an amazing actor who doesn't get the praise that he deserves. He's more menacing than the previous versions of Davros, partially because he's quieter and only resorts to hamming it up when he's on the verge of victory, like when he was about to detonate the Reality Bomb. He also showed a more human side in The Witches Familiar and out of all the Davros actors, I think Bleach is the only one who could pull that off.
...I like how Davros has such range, he shows comedy (the statue of the Doctor), ingenuity (using people for food), he is such a long term schemer in this...and despite the bad graphic he levitates....while Genesis was good Davros was really a one dimensional villian. He really upped his villainy in this one, stealing brains and then using the bodies for food? that's priceless.
I think it's a little unfair to call Davros one dimensional in Genesis, he was pretty brilliant there too. I do agree that he was at the top of his game in Revelation though.
Colin was very good as The Doctor. If only he'd been allowed to continue. I suspect he would have been very much a favourite with many fans, just like Tom.
Colin Baker's much better than Tom Baker who was, by his own admission, just playing Tom Baker. He's overrated partially because he stayed in the role for so long.
...I always wanted a T Shirt that said "You turned them into food?" with Colin Baker's face and Davros on it...and another one with a Glass Dalek saying 'kill me child'..
Doctors 6 & 7 sometimes get a bashing from fans and I have never really understood why....both are so awesome :) I grew up watching 7 on VHS....oh the days.
George Reid Every Doctor has people who "bash" and "hate" on them, and it is more about preference than any logical reasons. I saw (thanks in large part to PBS here in the states running complete stories like feature length films from during the latter years of John Pertwee through Sylvester McCoy's turn) through the end of Liz Shaw through to Ace, and also bits here and there of course of Hartnell and Throughton. The reality is that it is cultural and modern views rather than genuine arguments, though I admit I think that Colin Baker's performance as Six are beyond underrated and unappreciated.
There are some excellent 6th & 7th Doc stories (Revelation, Varos, Remembrance, Fenric). But that particular era is hampered by poor acting, casting and writing, much more than any other era.
The Doctor: "I see you've been busy." Davros: "Where as you have been stupid Doctor" The Doctor: "Prerogative of a Time Lord." those opening remarks get me every time. very witty and very funny.
+Some Random TH-camr Mine was Vengeance on Varos, then this. Public Television in the US ran the Colin episodes alot actually. They played Tom Baker and Colin episodes. Never played the really early doctors or Peter Davison. Didn't see them until recently.
TheProfMiner Peri was a companion in Doctor Who from 1984 to 1986. I was upset when Peri left the series. Her replacement, Mel, was one of the worst companion ever.
This severely underrated story deserves a lot of praise. Eric Saward may not have liked Colin Baker, but he helped him shine in this story. Despite the Sixth Doctor being somewhat sidelined, Saward gave the Doctor some key moments that really showed Colin's ability to act. I also believe that had we been able to see the actual season 23, it would continue to elevate Colin's performance due to some better written material. BBC was to blame for not taking this slightly elevated story telling seriously at the time. But it was a very different time back then. The entire cast in this kept me focused on the story, and the music and atmosphere dreamed up by Director Graham Harper and composer Roger Limb really helped make this one of my favorite stories of the entire run.
The Sixth Doctor and Davros debating on sentient life with a little Soylent Green thrown in... if that isn't sci-fi, grab a cardigan sweater and re-knit it.
I still say that if Colin Baker had been allowed to continue as the Doctor, he might have been as fondly remembered as Tom Baker. (And this isn't a diss to Sylvester McCoy, who was also a marvelous Doctor.)
Y'know, I feel with a bit more time Colin baker could have gotten much better and more liked, yeah he was a dick in the first few serials but he got better, more compassionate and kinder, and you can see the the toon between these two here, but he got the boot before we could see it in full
*Y'know, I feel with a bit more time Colin baker could have gotten much better and more liked, yeah he was a dick in the first few serials but he got better, more compassionate and kinder, and you can see the the toon between these two here, but he got the boot before we could see it in full* Not really, you do see more of the compassionate side of the Sixth Doctor during, The Trial of a Time Lord. There's his attempt to convince Drathro in, The Mysterious Planet segment to spare the lives of the work units (people) under his supervision, his grief at thinking that Peri had been killed in the closing moments of, Mindwarp, his dismay at having to resort to wipe out the Vervoids in, Terror of the Vervoids and his disgust at the Time Lords hypocrisy when they moved Earth across space which almost completely destroyed the planet.
Crimson Dynamo no I don’t think that was his idea, he said his first scientific work was in the rendering plants, which was was were he learned what they put into their food pills
This is by far my favorite Doctor Who story. A little bit of corporate corruption, espionage with the reward of high income, and underneath layers more, an old adversary getting to meet his foe after changing face again.
Let’s all just say now that we know that the doctor saved him as a child really just shows all this time davros just wanted to surpass the one he thought was absolute power 😭
I reckon this is the best Dalek story by a country mile. Certainly Colin Baker's finest hour and very well-written by Eric Saward. Terry Molloy's Davros is delivered with utter conviction and director Graham Harper permanently raised the bar in terms of storytelling technique . Sadly, it's the last truly great Doctor Who story of the 80s.
Totally agree. His voice, his subtle mannerisms, and his performance makes him perfect for the role. He even has some audio stories as Davros made by Big Finish that (with the exception of one) are all great.
No love for the original Davros, Michael Wisher? I thought his portrayal was the best. Even the voice modulation used that mimicked Dalek voices was better than the ones that came after. If you consider the massive ego that Davros had, you can understand why the Daleks sounded so much like his synthesized voice.
Jack McCullough I recommend you listen to the audio stories: Davros, The Davros Mission, I Davros, The Juggernauts, Terror Firma, and the Curse of Davros.
Davros lures the doctor to him for the sole purpose of......gloating to him about what he has achieved. And in the ned, the Doctor doesn't even defeat him, the Renegade Daleks do.
We can go back and forth all we like on this as to who was the best Dr the best Davros...etc Everyone has their personal favourites. Personally I think Michael Wisher was excellent In Genesis of the Daleks, it was dark, intense and the acting was superb. Sadly Dr Who today (despite massive budgets) seems more comical and less serious.
Terry projects very well, the mask is quite ‘masky’ as in it looks more like a mask where as Michaels was more of himself. I do like the seething performance Terry gives in Remembrance, the gloating deep breathing and goading and a slight dribble when he thinks he holds all the cards. I don’t think Terry gave anything less than great performances in each of his classic Who performances including Attack Of The Cybermen. I am possibly in the minority but I think Davros is a great tool for Dalek chat and extrapolation. It would be great to see him in New Who where he’s trying to get along in the Universe rather than conquering it in some grandiose scheme. Classic Who never went too far with him: Creating The Daleks, rescue and intervention in a war, rescue and his own protection, establishment of a new base and loyal Daleks while generating an income and retrieving a Remote Stellar Manipulator in order to destroy the Timelords. Not dragging planets through the Galaxy to destroy the Universe (which makes no sense). I don’t think Davros ever got over the Dalek betrayal in Genesis he was never pure enough to be a Dalek. Daleks don’t even get along with each other (civil war) they don’t like the Abomination but tolerate it, they don’t like Davros but tolerate him, both have their uses.
Fun Fact: The reason that “Revelation of The Daleks” took a very long time for a home video release was because they had a hard time securing the rights to the sixties tracks used throughout the story. The only song that didn’t appear on VHS or DVD was “Fire” by Jimi Hendrix. They used generic rock music to replace it, but it was hard due to there being dialogue over the music track.
Am I the only person who likes Who in its entirety. I do think its hit or miss at times, some seasons have only a few bad episodes, some only a few good episodes, but that is to be expected with a multitude of writers and self contained stories which can take place anywhere with almost any narrative. From 1963 onward Dr Who has always delivered for me, in some way or another.
My favt doctors in order ar 1. Davith Tennint 2. John Pertee 3. Colin Bakker 4. Tom Bakker 5. Sivister Mickhoy 6. Matt Smythe 7.Christphe Ecclestone 8. Pitor Davidson 9, William Harshnell 10.Patrick trowton 11. Paul McCain
Massively under-rated story, some great dialogue and equally well written supporting cast. I laughed so loud when the Doctor broke his watch climbing the wall, Nicola is particularly good in this story, seriously.
This is easily my favourite #6 story and possibly my 2nd favourite Classic Era Dalek story (after Genesis). #6, Peri, Davros and all the supporting cast are at the top of their game. Who can’t love Karla and Vogel as well as Osini and Bostock. Each double act has great dialogue and all really come alive as characters. Mr Jobel makes the skin crawl… just too many good characters to list.
Eric Saward proves here he was a vastly-better writer than he ever was a story editor. If only ANYONE ELSE had been in charge of the scripts during the 5th & 6 th Doctor's era, those periods would have been so much better. William Gaunt is also my favorite character in this story as Orcini. If only Colin had a decent outfit to wear......
Imagine if you will that Instead of RTD and Rose, the pilot story for the new series was Scream Of The Shalka,the showrunner was Paul Cornell and the time slot was 10.30pm Fridays on BBC2. The chances are it would only have run for a few years and the budget would have been poor but the quality of stories and Doctor/s we would have had would have been miles better than the Disney Who crap that's been running since 2005.
What makes this scene even better is that it was revealed in the expanded media that the Kaled government also used this tactic during the war. Afterall, dead bodies were the only things that Skaro had an abundance of. Meaning that, to Davros, this is simply the logical conclusion and he sees no real issues with it
Exactly, meanwhile, everyone didn't have that experience tailored specifically to Davros and he saw no abhorrence to it. He of all people would be baffled by everyone's reaction to it. Even on Skaro, some people were taken aback by it.
Wow.
Bloody hell, reminds me of Warhammer 2K! In the 2K universe they have something they call *corpse* starch, it's made of their fallen comrades.
I personally believe that bodies should be recycled, but not in the immediately BBQ your dead comrade way. I see value in harvesting organs and marrow to save lives. I know some people argue that we could use bodies as fertilizer, but I feel like people should at least get to have the ashes or a burial of their loved one.
@@felixader A famous example of reusing bodies, or just straight up cannibalism, is the Donner Party. When party members would starve and freeze to death (Or maybe they just straight up killed them) the other members would eat them. Even though the bodies were already starved, they were still able to survive off of it. You can still get some nutritional value from the organs and bone marrow, but you're right, it won't be healthy or have be good quality. We do have to remember that people do these things in the act of desperation, if you're starving, you won't be thinking about the future health consequences.
"But did you bother to tell anyone they might be eating their relatives?"
"Certainly not. That would have created what I believe is termed 'consumer resistance'."
People who don't appreciate this particular story don't see that an exchange like that is classic.
That didn’t seem to bother the people in Soylent Green Davros.
Well except Charlton Heston.
unfortunately, at this point, you could see something like that happening in real life...
@@mushroomhead3619 It's 2022 and Soylent Green is People!
the mustache-twirling to me is almost comedic, kind of ruins the seriousness
Being eaten by the relatives is not what everyone in that room has to watch out for.
Am I the only one who noticed the weeping angel?
There's something chilling yet compelling about how little severity Davros treats cannibalism by proxy. He's a man so divorced from empathy and a normal worldview that he treats what he's done like a completely reasonable solution to a problem. To him the Doctor is the weird one for being disgusted
especially when you add in the underlying detail that davros came from a planet that for the last 1000 years has been warring and fighting into oblivion. food would have been hard to grow, and death was common. so bodies were quickly seen as wasted meat
It's might not be a lack of empathy it might just be a cultural thing. In the expanded universe the Kaleds resorted to this during the later phases of the war. So their no reason to find anything wrong with it as its normal to him and his people
Am I alone in thinking that Colin Baker was the best at interacting with Davros?
Robert Lythgoe This story in general is severely underrated.
+Robert Lythgoe The recent episode must have changed your opinion on that.
+영민이 (핑크색도넛) you are joking ,right?
Molloy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bleach
servalans hotpants Well, you got me. I personally like Bleach much more than sick old Terry.
I'm joking.
@@MichaelM28 Agreed 100%. They had the best chemistry out of all the doctors. They felt like true adversaries.
I absolutely love the way The Doctor says "You turned them into food...?" And how Davros just turns away, caught up in his own delusions of grandeur. This and the "Yes, I would do it" are my favourite Davros/Doctor moments because they show off the contrast between the two so fantastically
Davros is basically thinking "wait, you think this is wrong or something? You're weird"
I like the subtle look of disgust on the Sixth Doctors face at the end of this clip. Very well played by Colin Baker who to my mind was one of the more under-rated actors to have played the role.
Jodie Whittaker is the best of the lot, because she's a woman.
@@thomhardcastle9897 Lol
Colin Baker is an absolute gem of a person, but got completely shafted by JNT and the BBC. I still hope he'll get the big popular starring role that he actually deserves.
@Timetraveller2092 Well, im a fan and shes my favourite... so. Also Id hardly call over 4 million people "no one" 🤣. Also last I checked Colin Baker is too a fan of Jodie Whittaker. You need to learn to be more accepting and to listen to the messages this show carries, mocking peoples gender, sexuality or race is against everything the show stands for, in the sense it's quite cruel and cowardly
Colin Baker shines in every moment he has as the Doctor. I think he was one of the all-time best actors in the role.
Underrated Doctor. Love them all
Colin Baker's doctor is one of my favourites but he is so underrated propably because he loojs so different and also a little bit ridiculous :D
JNSVKJS he got a better chance with Big Finish than the actual show to shine as the Doctor
@@crimsondynamo615 Some of his in show episodes are good too. Varos and this story are examples. Though Trial of a Timelord sucks
"Consumer resistance"
Oh Davros, you've been exterminated, resurrected, frozen (while conscious) and infected by a virus designed for Daleks but you've still got a sense of humour :D
I accidentally unliked this because I tapped like but had already liked it before. So now I liked it again.
So, in addition to unleashing the Daleks on the universe, Davros is also responsible for the creation of Soylent Green
what a not so nice person :(
Soylent Green = classic sci-fi thriller.
Green Day !!
James Mcenanly
Not to mention cannibalism
That bastard.
One of the great Davros scenes. The consumer resistance gag is just brilliant!
There is an element of James Bond in the 6th Doctor, with his witty asides as he confronts the villain....
It gets even better when Orsini lops Davros' hand off and he offers to shake his hand goodbye.
@@DarthAzabrush "no arm in trying"
In today's cooking with Davros, how to prepare grandma.
Reminds me of this indie pop group called Let's Eat Grandma. XD
@@twinsuns957 Ohhhh myyyyy ! 👍🏾♥️
😊😉😁
_"Dear Sir! I must strongly object to this depiction of cannibalism in Doctor Who. The very idea of promoting the eating of reprocessed corpses is a terrible thing to show to children instead of the far more wholesome imagery of people being blasted down by guns, bombs and lasers which is more in line with the virtues of British culture. Yours sincerely, Brigadier O.W. Smethig in a white wine sauce with mushrooms, onion, chives and sharp cheddar."_
@@LordZontar 😊😀😂😉😄🤣👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 !!
Davros is truly one of the Doctor's oldest friends. Actually, friend isn't the word. One of the Doctor's best rivals.
I think the word you're thinking is "Nemesis".
They have a very Batman and Joker relationship. The two play off each other well and, in a twisted way, you could see them being colleagues or even possibly friends in different circumstances. Davros, like the Master, was one of his greatest opponents.
@@angelangelis8362 And much like the Joker Davros seems to underplay how much his enemy hates him. To the Joker Batman completes him, but all Batman sees in the Joker is a monster that won't leave him alone
He told the (sixth) Doctor to be "the closest thing to a friend" je ever had.
@@angelangelis8362Thats the Doctor and the Master
For all his sometimes rudeness and ruthlessness, the Sixth Doctor had a very moral core.
I think that's what I love about him. He's basically a cat (hence the badge). Quick to lash out, often hungry, gentle if abrasive with his friends and suspicious of strangers, though he finds it easy to be enticing when he wants to be too.
As I delve further into the classic Who series, I keep finding myself in awe of the wonderful Colin Baker's 6th Doctor! He's ruthless, daring, cunning, arrogant, smarmy, rude, mean & sometimes uncaring to his companions, but then as his run moved along, he finally became pretty endearing & genuinely awesome as Doctors go. I think Colin got robbed of a long opportunity because of utter poppycock! Anyway, I will go on record as saying Colin's 6th Doctor is fabulous & I loved his patchwork coat! #6IsMyFavoriteClassicDoctor
Have you listened to the audio stories yet?
Definitely because of utter poppycock! I absolutely agree with you.
Melissa Hash m
Colin was amazing, but unfortunately Michael Grade is a PRICK!
Melissa Hash He was a great Doctor, very much like how Capaldi played the Doctor, the more uncaring and unsympathetic he seems the more you realise he is the opposite.
You can just see the Sixth saying in 1985/6:
*“Peri, tell me... am I a good man?”*
Can we just give credit to Terry Molloy here for his excellent performance as Davros. I’d definitely says his incarnation of Davros is the most Dramatic and Shakespearian. He is so effective in delivering even the simplest of lines and making them become so iconic. I only wish we had gotten more stories with Terry Molloy as Davros in classic who as I think he’s definitely my favourite in terms of his line delivery. Well done To him for managing to make the character as iconic as in his first appearance. Xx
This is a criminally underrated story, if I do say so myself!
Yes Indeed -The First Doctor
The three 80s Dalek stories are all brilliant, though they're all very different.
@@finnstewart4747 agreed. Same with 6 in general. He is a criminally underrated doctor. infect he is my fave Doctor over all
"The last time we met, your ship blew up."
"Yes, Doctor, but the script requires me to be here, so deus ex machina."
It's not quite as egregious as The Master being burned to death (on-screen!) and then re-appearing with no explanation
And being ravaged by the Movellan virus...
"You can't keep a good bad guy down!"
And being eaten by a T-Rex and sucked into a black hole, I'm sure there are more. It helps to have popular villain immortality. But Davros takes the cake, he's been shot by a Dalek, frozen in a block of ice, infected with a deadly incurable virus, had his hand shot off, blown up in a spaceship three times. Hell, I don't think even the Joker has been killed off this many times only to magically survive.
Remembrance of the Daleks makes it clear that Davros escaped that Dalek mothership in an escape pod.
"Do you never do anything but kill?"
Isn't that a bit of an understatement, Doctor? You are talking to Davros, the creator of the Daleks who exterminates any life forms that is not Dalek.
He is stalling for time here, in fairness.
If you watch _Genesis of the Daleks,_ you realize that Davros never originally intended the Daleks to be genocidal maniacs. They are more of an experiment that got out of control; Davros proposed that in order to create the perfect soldier in their war against the Thals, emotion needed to be eliminated from them. The Daleks becoming genocidal was actually a result of them responding to their genetic impulses without any moral filter -- they even turned on Davros at the end of that story.
@@sixstanger00 His rant about unleashing a virus to kill absolutely everything and how the Daleks will give him the ability to do just that kind of belies the idea that they were ever intended to be anything but genocidal maniacs, not to mention that Davros himself pulled a genocide on the Kaleds then on the Thals as well.
One of my favourite Dalek stories and one of Colin Baker's best.
Every time a fan sees Davros' mechanical hand, they no doubt think of this episode.
oh my god i first saw it quite recently and that just gets me every time now
Classic Davros, new Davros - they all give me the willies.
BritGirlJay Davros is a closet homosexual
They gave me the arthurs.
Julian Bleach is an amazing actor who doesn't get the praise that he deserves. He's more menacing than the previous versions of Davros, partially because he's quieter and only resorts to hamming it up when he's on the verge of victory, like when he was about to detonate the Reality Bomb. He also showed a more human side in The Witches Familiar and out of all the Davros actors, I think Bleach is the only one who could pull that off.
...I like how Davros has such range, he shows comedy (the statue of the Doctor), ingenuity (using people for food), he is such a long term schemer in this...and despite the bad graphic he levitates....while Genesis was good Davros was really a one dimensional villian. He really upped his villainy in this one, stealing brains and then using the bodies for food? that's priceless.
I think it's a little unfair to call Davros one dimensional in Genesis, he was pretty brilliant there too. I do agree that he was at the top of his game in Revelation though.
@@elisnyder863 I think it's the fact Davros treats what he's doing almost as if it's normal sells him as a villain.
Colin was very good as The Doctor. If only he'd been allowed to continue. I suspect he would have been very much a favourite with many fans, just like Tom.
CB is tragically underrated. More egdy, more unpredictable. I often wonder what could have been.
Colin Baker doesn't deserve hate. In my opinion he's really good and most faults lie with the writing.
Never forget his really great audio adventures, including the ones with Mel that never happened to be onscreen!
Colin Baker's much better than Tom Baker who was, by his own admission, just playing Tom Baker. He's overrated partially because he stayed in the role for so long.
Colin Baker is truly an amazing Doctor.
Davros - the creator of the Daleks and of SOYLENT GREEN!!!!
Davros: I am know as the ‘Great healer’...
The Doctor: you’ve gotta be kidding me??
The Doctor said where's Peri before Phineas!
+Maxed Out Productions Pinhead Pierre eat your heart out!
Dr Doof would probably enjoy dealing with that Peri before a certain Platypus
...I always wanted a T Shirt that said "You turned them into food?" with Colin Baker's face and Davros on it...and another one with a Glass Dalek saying 'kill me child'..
Doctors 6 & 7 sometimes get a bashing from fans and I have never really understood why....both are so awesome :) I grew up watching 7 on VHS....oh the days.
#TimeWillTellItAlwaysDoes
***** and oh what bores they are, my dear number 5.
George Reid Every Doctor has people who "bash" and "hate" on them, and it is more about preference than any logical reasons. I saw (thanks in large part to PBS here in the states running complete stories like feature length films from during the latter years of John Pertwee through Sylvester McCoy's turn) through the end of Liz Shaw through to Ace, and also bits here and there of course of Hartnell and Throughton. The reality is that it is cultural and modern views rather than genuine arguments, though I admit I think that Colin Baker's performance as Six are beyond underrated and unappreciated.
There are some excellent 6th & 7th Doc stories (Revelation, Varos, Remembrance, Fenric). But that particular era is hampered by poor acting, casting and writing, much more than any other era.
I would say the 5th Doctor's era deals with that far worse... not to mention a boredom factor.
This is truly terrifying to me, more than daleks now or in the past have made me. Davros is what scares me.
+Hope Sears He's space Hitler and Dr Mengele combined. That's a terrifying concept!
This isn't even the best portrayal, though it's close! Michael Wisher was the best Davros, however.
I love this scene. One of the better Davros sequences and that is saying something
The Doctor: "I see you've been busy."
Davros: "Where as you have been stupid Doctor"
The Doctor: "Prerogative of a Time Lord."
those opening remarks get me every time. very witty and very funny.
First Classic story I saw back in 2005, I was hooked
Some Random TH-camr My first classic was Tomb of the Cybermen.
Some Random TH-camr First Sixth Doctor story. Again. Hooked.
+Some Random TH-camr This wasn't the first classic Who I ever saw but it is certainly one of my favourite Sixth Doctor adventures.
+Some Random TH-camr Mine was Vengeance on Varos, then this. Public Television in the US ran the Colin episodes alot actually. They played Tom Baker and Colin episodes. Never played the really early doctors or Peter Davison. Didn't see them until recently.
+Some Random TH-camr
Just more proof that this story is severely underrated.
My first ever Doctor Who story and still one of my favourites.
“Certainly not!” I love how Davros almost sounds morally outraged😂😂😂
With this scene, no, this whole episode, Terry Molloy made Davros his own. Plus the convo with 6th is tops
Colin Baker and Terry Molloy gave fine performances in this scene.
0:08 the 6th doctor watches Phineas and Ferb
+TheProfMiner OMG I just got that reference!!!
+TheProfMiner OMG I just got that reference!!!
This is from the 80s, Phineas and Ferb came out in 2007.
poptart23 the doctor is a time traveler
TheProfMiner Peri was a companion in Doctor Who from 1984 to 1986. I was upset when Peri left the series. Her replacement, Mel, was one of the worst companion ever.
This severely underrated story deserves a lot of praise. Eric Saward may not have liked Colin Baker, but he helped him shine in this story. Despite the Sixth Doctor being somewhat sidelined, Saward gave the Doctor some key moments that really showed Colin's ability to act. I also believe that had we been able to see the actual season 23, it would continue to elevate Colin's performance due to some better written material. BBC was to blame for not taking this slightly elevated story telling seriously at the time. But it was a very different time back then. The entire cast in this kept me focused on the story, and the music and atmosphere dreamed up by Director Graham Harper and composer Roger Limb really helped make this one of my favorite stories of the entire run.
The Sixth Doctor and Davros debating on sentient life with a little Soylent Green thrown in... if that isn't sci-fi, grab a cardigan sweater and re-knit it.
Great story, a genuine Who classic - and it proves how good the Colin Baker era would have been had certain people given it a chance.
I still say that if Colin Baker had been allowed to continue as the Doctor, he might have been as fondly remembered as Tom Baker. (And this isn't a diss to Sylvester McCoy, who was also a marvelous Doctor.)
0:07 The first documented "Where's Perry?"
6 and Davros are too perfect in their chemistry.
Y'know, I feel with a bit more time Colin baker could have gotten much better and more liked, yeah he was a dick in the first few serials but he got better, more compassionate and kinder, and you can see the the toon between these two here, but he got the boot before we could see it in full
Fortunately, that gap is filled in by the audio dramas starring Colin.
***** i am aware of big finish audio productions, i meant on screen.
*Y'know, I feel with a bit more time Colin baker could have gotten much better and more liked, yeah he was a dick in the first few serials but he got better, more compassionate and kinder, and you can see the the toon between these two here, but he got the boot before we could see it in full*
Not really, you do see more of the compassionate side of the Sixth Doctor during, The Trial of a Time Lord. There's his attempt to convince Drathro in, The Mysterious Planet segment to spare the lives of the work units (people) under his supervision, his grief at thinking that Peri had been killed in the closing moments of, Mindwarp, his dismay at having to resort to wipe out the Vervoids in, Terror of the Vervoids and his disgust at the Time Lords hypocrisy when they moved Earth across space which almost completely destroyed the planet.
6's look at the end is so like "Oh Davros, the naughty things you do" 3:11
Note the long thin control panels from Moonbase from the Gerry Anderson series UFO arrayed vertically on the wall in the background
I’d hate to see what Davros does to kids who won’t stop playing on his lawn
One of the best doctors
Am I the only one thinking "Davros the heartless CEO" when he says "That would create... consumer resistance"? :P
This WAS made in the 80s...
IraTheSquire I mean recycling corpses to feed the living was actually something the Kaleds did
PC Andy Infinite Davros was the one to suggest that too, stating that nothing not even their bodies should go to waste
Crimson Dynamo no I don’t think that was his idea, he said his first scientific work was in the rendering plants, which was was were he learned what they put into their food pills
One of those many moments where Colin Baker plays the doctor perfectly!
"Consumer resistance".
Hah! Never change, Davros.
This is by far my favorite Doctor Who story. A little bit of corporate corruption, espionage with the reward of high income, and underneath layers more, an old adversary getting to meet his foe after changing face again.
In my opinion, this is the 2nd best Doctor Who story ever but the best ever televised story. The best story IMO Is the Last Adventure
Let’s all just say now that we know that the doctor saved him as a child really just shows all this time davros just wanted to surpass the one he thought was absolute power 😭
This story was really dark and twisted. It was great. lol
Davros was quite the fan of Soylent Green.
I reckon this is the best Dalek story by a country mile. Certainly Colin Baker's finest hour and very well-written by Eric Saward. Terry Molloy's Davros is delivered with utter conviction and director Graham Harper permanently raised the bar in terms of storytelling technique . Sadly, it's the last truly great Doctor Who story of the 80s.
Davros is my favorite villain in any universe
....best exchange between the Doctor and Davros....great story line.....
All Doctor Who is Doctor Who & All Doctor Who is Magnificent.
I've learned many things from the Doctor and I'm surprised they're so calm surrounded by Statues.
Oh thank God for the music.
Terry Molloy is my the best Davros in my opinion.
Totally agree. His voice, his subtle mannerisms, and his performance makes him perfect for the role. He even has some audio stories as Davros made by Big Finish that (with the exception of one) are all great.
No love for the original Davros, Michael Wisher? I thought his portrayal was the best. Even the voice modulation used that mimicked Dalek voices was better than the ones that came after. If you consider the massive ego that Davros had, you can understand why the Daleks sounded so much like his synthesized voice.
Kevin Wilson Don't get me wrong, I like Michael Wisher, I just like Terry Molloy better
Dig the exaggerated arm movements. It's the only way Davros can emote when he's calm.
Jack McCullough I recommend you listen to the audio stories: Davros, The Davros Mission, I Davros, The Juggernauts, Terror Firma, and the Curse of Davros.
Davros lures the doctor to him for the sole purpose of......gloating to him about what he has achieved.
And in the ned, the Doctor doesn't even defeat him, the Renegade Daleks do.
Davros certainly gets around.
We can go back and forth all we like on this as to who was the best Dr the best Davros...etc
Everyone has their personal favourites. Personally I think Michael Wisher was excellent
In Genesis of the Daleks, it was dark, intense and the acting was superb. Sadly Dr Who today (despite massive budgets) seems more comical and less serious.
Terry projects very well, the mask is quite ‘masky’ as in it looks more like a mask where as Michaels was more of himself. I do like the seething performance Terry gives in Remembrance, the gloating deep breathing and goading and a slight dribble when he thinks he holds all the cards. I don’t think Terry gave anything less than great performances in each of his classic Who performances including Attack Of The Cybermen. I am possibly in the minority but I think Davros is a great tool for Dalek chat and extrapolation. It would be great to see him in New Who where he’s trying to get along in the Universe rather than conquering it in some grandiose scheme. Classic Who never went too far with him: Creating The Daleks, rescue and intervention in a war, rescue and his own protection, establishment of a new base and loyal Daleks while generating an income and retrieving a Remote Stellar Manipulator in order to destroy the Timelords. Not dragging planets through the Galaxy to destroy the Universe (which makes no sense).
I don’t think Davros ever got over the Dalek betrayal in Genesis he was never pure enough to be a Dalek. Daleks don’t even get along with each other (civil war) they don’t like the Abomination but tolerate it, they don’t like Davros but tolerate him, both have their uses.
Soilant Davros. Part of this nutritious breakfast.
Is it just me or is Davros more unsettling when he is not ranting and raving?
No, you're right -- he is -- using that low, menacing voice. 😬👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Fun Fact: The reason that “Revelation of The Daleks” took a very long time for a home video release was because they had a hard time securing the rights to the sixties tracks used throughout the story. The only song that didn’t appear on VHS or DVD was “Fire” by Jimi Hendrix. They used generic rock music to replace it, but it was hard due to there being dialogue over the music track.
I’m not one for villain spin offs but credit where it’s due revelation of the daleks showed davros and his daleks could hold a show.
Am I the only person who likes Who in its entirety. I do think its hit or miss at times, some seasons have only a few bad episodes, some only a few good episodes, but that is to be expected with a multitude of writers and self contained stories which can take place anywhere with almost any narrative. From 1963 onward Dr Who has always delivered for me, in some way or another.
Colin was very underated was a bit cranky like Mr Hartnell with the Black Humour of Tom Baker
And that stupid costume didn't help.
The line "You turned them into food?" sent chills down my spine. This story is fricking creepy
Soylent green is people
i love that the doctor has that pin badge of Marie from The Aristocats :D
Oh my gosh! The Doctor likes Disney!
When I met Colin Baker at Comicon in 2015, and I asked who his favorite villain was, he told me that Davros was his favorite. I can definitely see why
One of the best of the 6th.
My favt doctors in order ar
1. Davith Tennint
2. John Pertee
3. Colin Bakker
4. Tom Bakker
5. Sivister Mickhoy
6. Matt Smythe
7.Christphe Ecclestone
8. Pitor Davidson
9, William Harshnell
10.Patrick trowton
11. Paul McCain
I do hope Season 22 will get a Blu-Ray Collection release
"As your grave robbing friends have now been exterminated, you will not hear the complaint again!!!"
At a time when Dr. had depth and good dialogue. I always liked this particular scene.
Even the Daleks are susceptible to the weeping angels.
Love the "Dalek heartbeat" in the background 😍
Massively under-rated story, some great dialogue and equally well written supporting cast. I laughed so loud when the Doctor broke his watch climbing the wall, Nicola is particularly good in this story, seriously.
This is easily my favourite #6 story and possibly my 2nd favourite Classic Era Dalek story (after Genesis).
#6, Peri, Davros and all the supporting cast are at the top of their game. Who can’t love Karla and Vogel as well as Osini and Bostock. Each double act has great dialogue and all really come alive as characters. Mr Jobel makes the skin crawl… just too many good characters to list.
Doctor is like that one roommate that won’t leave Davros alone in the classic series
True Who always outclasses nuwho.
I saw davros at Wal-Mart this evening on one of those electric carts it wss him i swear
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Loved him as baban the butcher in blakes 7
The doctor already blew up his own people and planet, so he most probably is more cautious this time around.
Did Eric Saward explain where the ideas for the statues in davros' command centercame from? And ofcourse outside near the garden of fond memories?
I want to see Davros in a tv commercial promoting his new "food" :')
Love this doctor , proper badass and compassionate with too ! Love you Colin baker !💘💘
This is such a great episode!
Eric Saward proves here he was a vastly-better writer than he ever was a story editor. If only ANYONE ELSE had been in charge of the scripts during the 5th & 6 th Doctor's era, those periods would have been so much better.
William Gaunt is also my favorite character in this story as Orcini.
If only Colin had a decent outfit to wear......
Imagine if you will that Instead of RTD and Rose, the pilot story for the new series was Scream Of The Shalka,the showrunner was Paul Cornell and the time slot was 10.30pm Fridays on BBC2. The chances are it would only have run for a few years and the budget would have been poor but the quality of stories and Doctor/s we would have had would have been miles better than the Disney Who crap that's been running since 2005.
I think anyone who knows and appreciates classic who sees that he had a lot of potential, potential that the writers sorely squandered.
A very underrated story. It's a perfect who story and a great dalek one at that, dark, violent and gothic is how a dalek story should be.