ERRATA: Er, I guess... ignore 13:24 - 14:07, I didn't realise the Turbo Unlock mod was limited to 2600 v3s only. As penance, I'll make a dedicated TU video.
The wattage on those Xeons ruin it for me. In my ghetto rig I have an old i7-3770 (4c/8t), 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3, and a GTX 1650 Super 4GB. In muh main rig I have an i7-8700 (6c/12t), 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 RAM, and RTX 3050 8GB. Both have two 1TB SSds each: one with Windows 10 the other with Linux Mint 21.1.
I've used an 2666v3 with turbo unlock with chinese mobos, excelent budget. The 2640v3 its better because of ring core architecture of the haswell. Up to 8 cores they share the 4 memory channels, beyond 8, like the 10 core 2666v3, they split memory bandwith. So in theory, applications that like memory band would perform better on the 2640v3 than the 2666v3, even with more clock/cache and cores.
@@T.Lspitz chinese mobo turbo unlock doesnt work on 16xx v3's, you have to delete 16xx v3's microcode in order for this to work on 26xx v3 yeah undervolt helps alot maintaining higher clocks for longer
It's crazy to me cause when I started my datacenter carreer about a decade ago, these were the CPU's we were installing, high tier expensive server components, and now people are buying them for 10 dollah and gaming on them.
the former high end, ends up good gaming tech later on a cheap. especially if you are really strapped in cash and you want to be close to the modern tech. I do have a Ryzen 7 6800H + RTX 3050M laptop, but I might get one of these chips and the mobo for the cheap. And just buy a upper mid-tier GPU (x60 or x70 card, either Nvidia or AMD) Especially, I usually just play easier games to render Genshin, alot of 2D indies especially RimWorld, as well as a little bit of content creation)
Pretty much any Chinese X99 has a BIOS with 100 BCLK, memory timings unlocked and turbo boost unlocked. Most nowadays also come with resizeable bar. It's become as easy as installing Mi899, choosing the BIOS file from his tool or Koshak's repository and clicking flash. Definitely worth doing on the v3.
@@CDNFLUIDIt was at the time 25$ for the cpu, 120$ for the motherboard plus 16gb of ddr4 ram, and around 280$ for the gpu (new). The rest of the components were recycled from my previous rig. Prices have gone down since then though.
Got myself a dual e5 2680v4 and good old 5700xt paired with 64gb ddr4 ram, full of advantages like a bunch of pcies and muilticore reaching to 12900k, for only 2000yuan, only for around 350 pound I had the whole system setup, including a 1000w skechy power supply, and a 1tb drive all brought in china
@@jarenpocopio6033 Around 70-90w on average depending on the title, but with more cpu intensive games i've seen it reach 100w. On the plus side, temps are a non issue, around 50-55°C with a budget air cooler.
Not often I’m called babe by anyone besides my wife, but I’ll take it. Sorry it took me awhile. It’s 10PM here in Central European Time now and I’m watching before going to sleep.
I bought a 5820k for around $400 back in the day to review some brand new DDR4, only platform using it at the time for consumer builds. Upgraded to a 6950x for less than $200 many years back now. Highly recommend these 2011v3 socket builds for low cost gaming.
Imo, the ones that make sense are the ones with massive cache. The 2667 v4 (2400C12 quad channel) and the 2697 v3 (2133C12 quad channel) on a Chinese board with turbo boost unlock is the way to go. All v3 can handle their single core turbo on all cores when unlocked. The Chinese BIOS all have a mod that allows unlocking ALL memory timings. The massive cache of the higher end (still often
Does the same apply to 8 cores such as 5960x or 1660v3 & 1680v3? Specifically does disabling hyperthreading boost gaming performance especially when overclocked?
Currently running a 1680v3 at 4.5 GHz all core in an EVGA X99 micro 2 motherboard + a RTX 3090. A pretty odd setup but it is surprisingly powerful! Power consumption is terrible though...
Sweet build dude. Im currently running a 1680v3 on my Gigabyte x99p-sli motherboard but only have it clocked to 4.2ghz right now. If you dont mind sharing, what voltages and bios settings do you have to run stable 4.5ghz?
I built an even older xeon that still runs great -- a cheap W3670 in a dell workstation from over 10 years ago still holds up with an rx 470 in it for an older gamer that mainly plays ARPGs like diablo
My X58 system with a Xeon X5670 6c/12t did pretty well with a GTX 1080. I have now moved to X299 with an i9-10900X but in most games there isn't a big difference because even the X58 system was GPU bound most of the time. Whenever I upgrade to a more modern GPU I'll put the 1080 back in to the X58 rig
I love the way you do your benchmarks with the music my guy. Your testing has an energy to it that even the biggest tech channels can't seem to bring. Thanks for the content.
Respect for the link on MIconst) Best CPU for x99 for the price now: 2697v3(unlock+undervolt) = 2690v4 2667v4 best for max fps, but it's expensive now. Best price for buck is, 2670v3. Also, a good CPU for its price is: 2666v3 and 2690v3. A lot of benchmarks and tests on TH-cam. Russian, Ukrainian and Brazilian channels.
The computer my mom inherited from my grandmother when she passed had an i3 530 in it originally, I upgraded it to an x3460 when I replaced the hdd with an ssd, thermal paste, added ram, etc. Only experience I've really ever had with a xeon gaming upgrade. It's great for playing Mahjongg on windows 7 apparently lol.
If you leave the gpu from 20 years ago it's normal, in 2021 I had that platform with x3440 at 4.0 ghz (4.2 consumed too much) 16gb ram 2000mhz cl11 and a vega 56, I played gta online at 60+ fps in 1080p at high/custom details.
What a miracle that your video got recommended to me, otherwise i would have never discovered this gem of a channel. Keep up the good work man, love the content! ❤
I love xeon 2011-3 cpus, I have an excellent x99 motherboard, but I did just buy a gigabyte aorus z790 for 83$ (thanks microcenter) which i paired with my 14700k. It is night and day compared to my old 6850k in premiere pro. Ill probably get an e5 2699v3 for a server. That specific CPU has a bios hack thing that will boost all 18 cores to 3.6 ghz, I actually want you to make a video on that. EDIT: I just finished the video and you did touch on this topic with the BIOS overclock. I'm glad you actually tested this! Very cool
I just scored a 2699v4 on ebay for $50. 22 cores, 44 threads, 2.2 base, 3.6 Turbo, running in a Dell 5810 with 128GB of quad channel DDR4 Registered ECC memory. This was a $4k CPU when new... This thing is still very usable, especially for 'normal', non~gaming tasks like Linux kernel compilation and video editing... I'd like to see you dig into the V4 Xeons at some point....
I was considering this CPU for my second PC, which would be used for streaming, file server, and video encoding my projects, but I think I'll go with the v3 version for the bios unlock
or you can go with 2667 v4 i guess it's the best gaming cpu from x99 26xx v3/v4 cpus it boosts to 3.5 with no modes , its a 14 nm cpu and supports much faster ram than v3 cpus
Although it isn't mentioned explicitly, the commercial equivalent X99 machines would be Lenovo P510's, HP Z440s and Dell Precision XX10s if you're gonna fit any sort of graphics card in the chassis. From past experience these can also run V4 Xeons, and can be found for $80-150 with higher wattage PSU's(~700W+). 2667's are pretty much the goldilocks area of the X99 Xeons, after that you either sacrifice clock speed for core count, or overpay.
Bought a 5810 for 95 bucks on ebay a few weeks ago to use as a server. Came with a 1070, a 1650 v4, and a 1tb ssd. 825w psu. Great machine. Would def recommend buying a workstation like this over custom building on an 8 year old cpu platform.
As someone who has played around with this old enterprise stuff purely out of curiosity for what seemed insanely aspirational for a geek like myself - don't bother...they are slow, consume tons of power, and given the platforms are so old the reliability is going to vary not to mention potential security concerns. If you're on a budget just get something like a 10th gen i3/i5.
Anybody with a non-Overclocking motherboard (i.e. Workstations), and is also afraid of BIOS modding Turbo Unlock, then you may want to dabble in Broadwell v4 for the higher IPC, rather than Haswell v3... Broadwell often results in similar benchmark bumps anyway. The E5-2640 v4 (10c/20t) has a decent 3.4 GHz Turbo, and stays within the theme of the video at only $7. Also note that the E5-2666 v3 (10c/20t) [2.9/3.5Ghz] also would have fit within the theme of the video at just under $11, and would have been a contender to win in most of those benchmarks. There are a ton of other good chips with more cores, as soon as you raise your budget by just a few bucks... The trick is sifting through all the bad, and making a list.
For anyone reading comments you can get the 2697v3 for less than 20 USD and can be used with Turbo Boost Unlock. It has one highest boost clock for v3 Xeon and comes with 14 Cores.
Might be worth it for me, but I don't like ordering stuff off random websites and fiddling with BIOSes. That said, for productivity, going from an i5-4690K to something like this would probably do a lot for me. Though now I've looked at it and I'd probably see a hit in single-threaded and not very highly threaded applications, which is most of what I do. I might just stick to this config until it gets to be impractical, then I'll buy something at a reasonable price and good value for money, with the presumption I'll get more performance for the money then than now.
Why not buy an i7-4790K for your current platform? You will gain performance everywhere and they are quite cheap. Not $11 cheap but still cheap. Even if you plan a future big upgrade of everything it will still be a good temporary upgrade until you get your big upgrade.
The i7-4790 non K version is another good choice if you can't find any of the K versions at a cheap price. They tend to be much cheaper than the K counterparts and only be a few fps less, which makes them a fair choice if you don't plan on overclocking. From watching a few gaming benchmarks, the i7-4790 is 10-20 fps worse than the i3-10100, and it's equal to the Ryzen 5 1600AF. Upgrading from my i5-4590 to the i7-4790 removed random fps drops and stuttering in a couple of my games.
The question with these old Xeons is primarily if they're worth it compared to buying used 1st/2nd gen Ryzen and a cheap used (or even new) AM4 motherboard. I can see the appeal of used workstation PCs if you can get one for
Even low-end Ryzens these days would beat old Xeon E5's. The only real advantage of a Xeon build is if you need Ram > 128GB. For gaming, I think the Xeons are well past their prime.
The thing is, if you manage to get a used AM4 system, you can eventually upgrade to the higher end chips on that platform, and you won't have to deal with manufacturer restrictions that might be set in the bioses/design of workstation PCs. I think it really depends on if you find a good Xeon system that doesn't restrict you much and is at a good price.
I recently bought myself an e5 2697 v3 and it only cost me $15!!! Which is a steal, can turbo unlock up to 3.6ghz 13 cores 26 threads and 3.5 ghz all cores. Performance wise in gaming is similar to a i5 10th gen. Pairing with a rx 5700 xt that i bought used for $90 and there is no bottleneck whatsoever. Gotta say with a cheap chinese mobo pair and an e5 2697 v3 pair up with a rx 5700 xt, my whole entire setup only cost $175!!! including ram, psu, mobo. Which is an absolute steal!! Btw this cpu can draw alot of power compare to most modern cpu. So yeah the cpu might be cheap but the electricity bill, not so cheap. Honestly if you want your build to be future proof its best to buy a new modern cpu tho.
I’ve been buying this one bundle of an X99 board with a Xeon 2670 and 16gb of DDR4 for a very reasonable price. Paired with a budget card like an RX580 or 1070 and they’re a very solid 1080p gaming machine!
2696 v3 with Hyperthreading disabled. That's 40 MB L3 cache and 18 cores, a few of which can burst to 3.8GHz. Don't forget to disable Spectre and Meltdown protections. The protections limit cpu functionality and the security flaws really shouldn't affect gamers
Im currently running a dual Intel Xeon E5 2690 V4 setup, its very impressive for old hardware, the other bios mod not mentioned here is enabling resizeable BAR, he mentions quad channel but both dual socket boards i bought of Aliexpress failed when fully populating the memory slots despite the ram being quad channel ram capable, which is why im slowly building up a Dual Epyc 7302 setup. Cinebench R23 23357 out scoring the threadripper 1950X and 9858 in 3dmark fire strike extreme with an MSI Gaming X Trio Nvidia RTX3060.
2:45 what's more important - it's compatible with DDR3 ECC which so so cheap on the used market rn that (at least in my country) you can get sticks of 8 GB for 4,5$
Bro this is amazing you just showed me another backdoor to budget 🤝 you can get toons of performance with low prices but your bills will tell you so but idc. Thanks I appreciate this massively bro
There is third, new, "vulnerability" patch called Downfall. It can be disabled through regedit only and it re-enables inSpectre and Meltdown if they are already disabled so you need to disable them again after you disable this one. Also don't drop CS2, it may be buggy at the moment but the engine will be used for next 10 years at least, thats for sure! Valorant is anime rip of CS. Best regards.
This was incredibly useful! I'm running a second hand Dell Precision workstation that I upgraded to an E5-2650v3 and have been agonizing over whether to change to a different chip. The confusion over whether the Passmark score or the base clock was more important threw me off. I may just give a 1650 a try.
I don't game but I do 3D animation in blender and wanted to run AI locally on on my workstation so I built a dual X99 workstation with 32 cores and 256gb ddr4 ram 1TB m.2 ssd and a 1080 TI for only 500 dollars, runs very fast and I can feel the power, it's able to run every single thing I throw at it without breaking a sweat, I can render AI images, raytraced blender animation and web browse at the same time without even a little slowness. Also the naming scheme for Xeon is easy, the last 2 numbers tell you how good it is, similar to i3 i5 i7 bigger number being better the last 2 numbers tell you how good it is, if it ends with something like 10 or 20 it's low end, if it ends with 99 or 98 it's the highest performance and highest core count chip. Also if you want to run dual CPU's you have to make sure the first number starts with 2
I bought an HP Z440 for $120, 16 GB DDR4 2400 RDIMMs in a quad channel setup, Xeon E5-1650v4, 700W 80 plus gold PSU and I picked up an RX 5500 XT for $70 USD. Love it. LOL.
Pretty sure 16xx v3 are unlocked so the 1650v3 and maybe the 1620v3 should have unlocked multipliers. It was not until the v4 that the 16xx's were locked down.... I know specifically the 1620s went back and forth from being locked to unlocked in some revision, but i cant remember which. At a minimum, the 1650 v3 should be multiplier unlocked.
the E5-2699v3 is an insany performer even compared to modern processors giving on average around twice the performance of the 1650, well worth the $41 it costs on Aliexpress though the people I have heard that used it used it several years ago when it was only recently replaced and probably bought for a couple hundred (at the time, $200 for such a CPU was insanely good).
Great video! Could you compare something like the 8-core E5-2667 with faster clocks Vs the 14-core E5 -2680 with lower clocks? I recently built a €300 Dell precision tower build with an E5-2680 v4. I’ve turned off HT for a small bump to gaming performance but with 14 cores it runs great in games like Cyberpunk paired with cheap RX 6600. Curious to see if fewer (but still many like 8) but faster cores would get better gaming performance in modern titles. I don’t have a 2667 to compare but from my own testing I get the impression the lower clocked higher core count v4 Xeons actually do better overall in games from the last 3 years. I suspect the larger L3 on the high core count models help too.
I wish gpu prices had followed cpu prices over the last 10yrs. In 2013, $350 got you a great cpu (i7 4770) and in 2023, $300-$400 still gets you a great cpu (7800x3d, 13700k). In 2013, Around $700 got you a top class video card like a 780ti or 290x, Now a $700 video card.. isn't much. Barely mid-range.
Mad props for talking about the "turbo boost unlock" mod. Most youtubers use these v3 without it, which is no fun at all. The 2640v3 would be a bettert test subject tho. Ran one of these for a while and it did well some 2-3y ago.
Was looking for cheap gaming PCs for my kids. I went with the 1650 v4 CPUs that I found in HP Z440 Workstations. Paired with 3060s they are powerful and very quiet machines for about 400€ that play anything on 1080p and most on 1440p.
Dude! Why dont you do a video on the quietly never talked about Intel xeon E3-1290-(V2) (v3). Its basically a K sku i core locked in at the highest tuned specifications.
Thanks for the suggestion. E3 V1 and V2 chips aren't a review priority for me right now, partly because I prefer to recommend chips with AVX2, but mostly because my Z77 board broke!
@@IcebergTech for sure, I get it but it would be the talk of the town if you could get your hands on a dell optiplex 3010 for $30 and dropped in that e3-1290-V2 sku. Those old piles of junk with that processor run neck and neck with 6th gen i7 6700 minus the avx-2. Ive only witnessed it once and it appears all these chips are stockpiled in china. Were never released in the U.S or the U.K and was a special order.
Glad you atlast looked at x99 xeon's! ive been constantly commenting about and also respect for mentioning Miyconst, he appreciates it! Also definitely get 2696v3 18 core 36threads 3.8ghz xeon for 50$ and test it your selft. I was quite surprised by low performance in wz2 with 2640v3, though you didn't test it with turbo boost unlock mode. 2696V3 with 10 core 20 threads core lock at rock solid 3.8ghz after mod, gave me around 120-140fps in warzone 2 with RTX 3080. Would love to see it on your channel!
I don't want to make any promises, but the 2696v3 is the Xeon I'm most interested in looking at. Going to see if I can get the Gigabyte working with the turbo mod, too - there have been a few suggestions in the comments that I'm going to try out.
absolutely beat the 2696v3 in my opinion is the best e5 26xx v3 cpu cs it can reach 3.8ghz @thaddeus2447 have u tried turbo boost unlocked and BCLK to 104 (maybe) ?
@@fastglitch i have huanan x99 bd4 which has only B85 chipset, it's not really possible to overclock it using bclk on such boards. Should be possible on branded onces
@@marcelhaase8416 On a home server? Of course you need C States you dont want your PC running full power 24/7. Youre not serving thousands of people...
@@TheAkustikus for a home server that is just hosting data i agree, but other applications or service are often not designed to work on system with c states. Most home server are used as adblocker, DHCP or DNS.
There is a much larger gap between Haswell and Skylake than I expected. If not for this benchmark, I would assume 6 core Haswell to be a better performer than Skylake 4 cores, but doesn't seem to be the case.
I didn't do a chart for the productivity benchmarks, but at 4.5GHz the 1650 v3 mops the floor with the 6700K at the same clocks. Blender Classroom completes in 11 mins vs 14, Davinci Resolve 4K H264 render in 22 mins vs 27, and the Haswell wins all the synthetics by a decent margin, too.
I think the 2697 v3 with HT disabled is the meta for the v3 xeons. 14 cores @ 3.6ghz with an undervolt and turbo unlock you have 14c/14t @ 3.4-3.5ghz e5-2667 v4 8c/16t @ 3.5ghz all core might be best though.
the 2666v3 is also a good one, but since that was more or less an "OEM only CPU" it is a bit rare. similar to an 2660v3 so 10c/20t but with higher clocks since it got much higher TDP. some motherboards don't even list it, hell even Intel ARK don't list it, but most motherboards runs it with zero problem. (tested it in an Gigabyte X99-UD4, MSI X99A G7 and is now resting in my server that got an AsRock X99 Extreme 11, none of these boards had the 2666 listed but was found correct by all of em) i "retired" mine after getting hold of a second hand "new in box" with recipe Ryzen 7950x last February for a price that i felt a bit sorry for the seller (got it for 2500 NOK so around 220€ and even included an Noctua 120mm cooler) problem for the 2666 and 2697 is the price on the i7 6950x can be even as cheap after a whole-seller in China flooded the market with B-grade versions of it, i picked up one for just over 50$ early last year for a "budget build", and with the 6950x you get one newer generation and working XMP (and DDR4 3000 and 3200 can be had for cheap and for my case gave a 25% increase in fps in most games at 1440p versus 2133MHz).
Don’t get that much time to watch your vids, but when I do I’m always astounded by their quality AND quantity. Your subscriber count WILL grow exponentially with this kind of work rate. Keep up the great work!
been running an S2600CW2R motherboard with a couple 2670v3s for a year now, upgraded from 2630v3s because i got the 2670s for £30 each. good to see its possible to now get 2699v3s for around the same price. i managed to snag the motherboard for just £15 on ebay in 2021, the listing had no info or names beyond the item code directly off the box so nobody could see it in search results except for the word Intel. gonna be waiting for those Broadwell EP chips to come down before upgrading again, 2 x 12c 24t is already a lot for my processing needs
I wish you did compare these with an overclocked i7 5960x, a gaming cpu from the same era but with a similar xeon architecture. Also, one could get an AM4 board+an early ryzen paying some more and would still have a possible upgrade path till 5800x3d, while x99 does not have the same advantage.
I see you're using ddr4 2133 speed memory. Would you like some 2666 for future testing, gaming, etc..? I have a few extra 8gb stick sets of 4 that I don't use. If you would like a set, its yours.
*There is a guy selling a full Xeon e5 2640 v3 pc right now for $280 or so that's a steal in my country where a Ryzen 5 1600x pc is $650 USED so this vids timing is uncanny mate*
China boards are fine, but check WHICH China board. Some are cheap garbage and will fail in a few months, some will last years. Ask the seller if he put a custom BIOS on. Most today come with turbo boost unlock, resizeable bar, BCLK 100 and memory timings unlocked. That's at least 15-20% free performance over just stock in a workstation if everything is tuned properly.
@@b0ne91 nice ill look into that specific board before buying my issue is i might let this one pass just to get a Ryzen 5 5600 or i3 12100 just cause i like either of those two but then again i like the 8 cores etc. hmm rough one also i will be pairing mine with a RTX 2060 12 gig so it will perform quite good i feel.
ERRATA:
Er, I guess... ignore 13:24 - 14:07, I didn't realise the Turbo Unlock mod was limited to 2600 v3s only. As penance, I'll make a dedicated TU video.
I appreciated the mention of the 2667 I would love to see this one in the turbo unlock video
The wattage on those Xeons ruin it for me. In my ghetto rig I have an old i7-3770 (4c/8t), 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3, and a GTX 1650 Super 4GB. In muh main rig I have an i7-8700 (6c/12t), 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 RAM, and RTX 3050 8GB. Both have two 1TB SSds each: one with Windows 10 the other with Linux Mint 21.1.
@@natejennings5884I really shouldn't have my A10-8750B that i got for 50 bucks for the entire machine.
I've used an 2666v3 with turbo unlock with chinese mobos, excelent budget. The 2640v3 its better because of ring core architecture of the haswell. Up to 8 cores they share the 4 memory channels, beyond 8, like the 10 core 2666v3, they split memory bandwith. So in theory, applications that like memory band would perform better on the 2640v3 than the 2666v3, even with more clock/cache and cores.
If only the 2xxx, and 4xxx Intel Xeons were over-clockable.
Remember for turbo unlock hacks, you need to undervolt to stop your processor hitting it's TDP limit and throttling.
Referring to the xeon 26xx v3 cpu's?
Or 16xx v3's as well?
@@T.Lspitz chinese mobo turbo unlock doesnt work on 16xx v3's, you have to delete 16xx v3's microcode in order for this to work on 26xx v3 yeah undervolt helps alot maintaining higher clocks for longer
@@T.Lspitz 16xx v3 xeons have overclock unlocked by itself
@@Gerelio i am fully aware. Both my 1650v3 and 1680v3 are overclocked. I was referring to undervolting in my original question.
i meant to tag the other guy @@T.Lspitz @Mr_V989 but youtube moment with the reply system
These x99 aliexpress systems basically saved gaming in Brazil for the last few years
Lol, I’m poor af from the states.. they saved my ass too!
@@andrewwright5629how's that going brother ? Still kicking ? What parts did you pick ?
Will probably be true for awhile to come isn't importing insanity expensive
It's crazy to me cause when I started my datacenter carreer about a decade ago, these were the CPU's we were installing, high tier expensive server components, and now people are buying them for 10 dollah and gaming on them.
the former high end, ends up good gaming tech later on a cheap.
especially if you are really strapped in cash and you want to be close to the modern tech.
I do have a Ryzen 7 6800H + RTX 3050M laptop, but I might get one of these chips and the mobo for the cheap. And just buy a upper mid-tier GPU (x60 or x70 card, either Nvidia or AMD)
Especially, I usually just play easier games to render Genshin, alot of 2D indies especially RimWorld, as well as a little bit of content creation)
Pretty much any Chinese X99 has a BIOS with 100 BCLK, memory timings unlocked and turbo boost unlocked. Most nowadays also come with resizeable bar. It's become as easy as installing Mi899, choosing the BIOS file from his tool or Koshak's repository and clicking flash. Definitely worth doing on the v3.
He has to do the turbo boost unlock and resizable bar, it's quite an improvement.
That paired with undervolting to get more from the TDP
Got myself a Xeon E5-2666v3 and a 6600 xt for cheap gaming last year. I can vouch the value this platform still provides.
how much did you spend in total.
@@CDNFLUIDIt was at the time 25$ for the cpu, 120$ for the motherboard plus 16gb of ddr4 ram, and around 280$ for the gpu (new). The rest of the components were recycled from my previous rig. Prices have gone down since then though.
How bout the power draw for heavy gaming.
Got myself a dual e5 2680v4 and good old 5700xt paired with 64gb ddr4 ram, full of advantages like a bunch of pcies and muilticore reaching to 12900k, for only 2000yuan, only for around 350 pound I had the whole system setup, including a 1000w skechy power supply, and a 1tb drive all brought in china
@@jarenpocopio6033 Around 70-90w on average depending on the title, but with more cpu intensive games i've seen it reach 100w. On the plus side, temps are a non issue, around 50-55°C with a budget air cooler.
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😂 I was gonna comment that ❤ glad to see someone beat me to it 😅
Not often I’m called babe by anyone besides my wife, but I’ll take it. Sorry it took me awhile. It’s 10PM here in Central European Time now and I’m watching before going to sleep.
@@wertywerrtyson5529enjoyed our date 😘 see you again.
I bought a 5820k for around $400 back in the day to review some brand new DDR4, only platform using it at the time for consumer builds. Upgraded to a 6950x for less than $200 many years back now. Highly recommend these 2011v3 socket builds for low cost gaming.
Imo, the ones that make sense are the ones with massive cache. The 2667 v4 (2400C12 quad channel) and the 2697 v3 (2133C12 quad channel) on a Chinese board with turbo boost unlock is the way to go. All v3 can handle their single core turbo on all cores when unlocked. The Chinese BIOS all have a mod that allows unlocking ALL memory timings. The massive cache of the higher end (still often
Definitely this
Does the same apply to 8 cores such as 5960x or 1660v3 & 1680v3?
Specifically does disabling hyperthreading boost gaming performance especially when overclocked?
No, because with those chips (they're unlocked) you aren't running into any power limits and you don't have waymore threads than games can use
Currently running a 1680v3 at 4.5 GHz all core in an EVGA X99 micro 2 motherboard + a RTX 3090. A pretty odd setup but it is surprisingly powerful! Power consumption is terrible though...
Sweet build dude. Im currently running a 1680v3 on my Gigabyte x99p-sli motherboard but only have it clocked to 4.2ghz right now.
If you dont mind sharing, what voltages and bios settings do you have to run stable 4.5ghz?
I built an even older xeon that still runs great -- a cheap W3670 in a dell workstation from over 10 years ago still holds up with an rx 470 in it for an older gamer that mainly plays ARPGs like diablo
My X58 system with a Xeon X5670 6c/12t did pretty well with a GTX 1080. I have now moved to X299 with an i9-10900X but in most games there isn't a big difference because even the X58 system was GPU bound most of the time. Whenever I upgrade to a more modern GPU I'll put the 1080 back in to the X58 rig
I love the way you do your benchmarks with the music my guy. Your testing has an energy to it that even the biggest tech channels can't seem to bring.
Thanks for the content.
Respect for the link on MIconst)
Best CPU for x99 for the price now:
2697v3(unlock+undervolt) = 2690v4
2667v4 best for max fps, but it's expensive now.
Best price for buck is, 2670v3.
Also, a good CPU for its price is:
2666v3 and 2690v3.
A lot of benchmarks and tests on TH-cam. Russian, Ukrainian and Brazilian channels.
Petition to change all CPU prices to MX4 percentages in future ? im in!
The computer my mom inherited from my grandmother when she passed had an i3 530 in it originally, I upgraded it to an x3460 when I replaced the hdd with an ssd, thermal paste, added ram, etc. Only experience I've really ever had with a xeon gaming upgrade. It's great for playing Mahjongg on windows 7 apparently lol.
If you leave the gpu from 20 years ago it's normal, in 2021 I had that platform with x3440 at 4.0 ghz (4.2 consumed too much) 16gb ram 2000mhz cl11 and a vega 56, I played gta online at 60+ fps in 1080p at high/custom details.
Ah yes, steve unboxed and steve's nexus.
What a miracle that your video got recommended to me, otherwise i would have never discovered this gem of a channel. Keep up the good work man, love the content! ❤
Well.. I had an 1650 "V1" oc to 3.8GHz all core and power consuption was through the ceiling.. im happy that i got rid of it :) :D
I love xeon 2011-3 cpus, I have an excellent x99 motherboard, but I did just buy a gigabyte aorus z790 for 83$ (thanks microcenter) which i paired with my 14700k. It is night and day compared to my old 6850k in premiere pro. Ill probably get an e5 2699v3 for a server. That specific CPU has a bios hack thing that will boost all 18 cores to 3.6 ghz, I actually want you to make a video on that.
EDIT: I just finished the video and you did touch on this topic with the BIOS overclock. I'm glad you actually tested this! Very cool
I just scored a 2699v4 on ebay for $50. 22 cores, 44 threads, 2.2 base, 3.6 Turbo, running in a Dell 5810 with 128GB of quad channel DDR4 Registered ECC memory. This was a $4k CPU when new... This thing is still very usable, especially for 'normal', non~gaming tasks like Linux kernel compilation and video editing... I'd like to see you dig into the V4 Xeons at some point....
v4 are not for gaming cs cant turbo boost much , and turbo boost unlock mode does't work on it so it's mostly for workstations stuff
I was considering this CPU for my second PC, which would be used for streaming, file server, and video encoding my projects, but I think I'll go with the v3 version for the bios unlock
or you can go with 2667 v4
i guess it's the best gaming cpu from x99 26xx v3/v4 cpus
it boosts to 3.5 with no modes , its a 14 nm cpu and supports much faster ram than v3 cpus
Even today those processors are amazing for gaming even new aaa games, especially for 1080p gaming.
I just bought myself a E5-2696 V3 for my home server. That thing is one hell of a beast, 18 cores and 36 threads for only 45$
Although it isn't mentioned explicitly, the commercial equivalent X99 machines would be Lenovo P510's, HP Z440s and Dell Precision XX10s if you're gonna fit any sort of graphics card in the chassis. From past experience these can also run V4 Xeons, and can be found for $80-150 with higher wattage PSU's(~700W+). 2667's are pretty much the goldilocks area of the X99 Xeons, after that you either sacrifice clock speed for core count, or overpay.
Bought a 5810 for 95 bucks on ebay a few weeks ago to use as a server. Came with a 1070, a 1650 v4, and a 1tb ssd. 825w psu. Great machine. Would def recommend buying a workstation like this over custom building on an 8 year old cpu platform.
@@bobertjohnson3473 95$ for all of that?? holyshit I wish my local market can be half as good lol xD
As someone who has played around with this old enterprise stuff purely out of curiosity for what seemed insanely aspirational for a geek like myself - don't bother...they are slow, consume tons of power, and given the platforms are so old the reliability is going to vary not to mention potential security concerns. If you're on a budget just get something like a 10th gen i3/i5.
Anybody with a non-Overclocking motherboard (i.e. Workstations), and is also afraid of BIOS modding Turbo Unlock, then you may want to dabble in Broadwell v4 for the higher IPC, rather than Haswell v3... Broadwell often results in similar benchmark bumps anyway.
The E5-2640 v4 (10c/20t) has a decent 3.4 GHz Turbo, and stays within the theme of the video at only $7.
Also note that the E5-2666 v3 (10c/20t) [2.9/3.5Ghz] also would have fit within the theme of the video at just under $11, and would have been a contender to win in most of those benchmarks.
There are a ton of other good chips with more cores, as soon as you raise your budget by just a few bucks... The trick is sifting through all the bad, and making a list.
*i wouldn't
I made a quick list of good chips with at least 10 cores, high Turbo, and decent AliX prices...
Haswell
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Retail-
2699 v3 (18/36) [2.3/3.6] $34
2698 v3 (16/32) [2.3/3.6] $25
2697 v3 (14/28) [2.6/3.6] $16
2690 v3 (12/24) [2.6/3.5] $12
2687Wv3 (10/20) [3.1/3.5] $20
OEM-
2696 v3 (18/36) [2.3/3.8] $37
2698Bv3 (16/32) [2.0/3.4] $25
2666 v3 (10/20) [2.9/3.5] $11
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Broadwell
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Retail-
2697 v4 (18/36) [2.3/3.6] $53
2697Av4 (16/32) [2.6/3.6] $44
2690 v4 (14/28) [2.6/3.5] $29
2687Wv4 (12/24) [3.0/3.5] $57
2640 v4 (10/20) [2.4/3.4] $6
Limited-
2689 v4 (10/20) [3.1/3.8] $74
OEM-
2696 v4 (22/44) [2.2/3.7] $74
2673 v4 (20/40) [2.3/3.6] $67
(cores/threads) [Base/Turbo]
I'm addicted to Iceberg Tech. Keep up the awesome work! Have fun with it.
For anyone reading comments you can get the 2697v3 for less than 20 USD and can be used with Turbo Boost Unlock. It has one highest boost clock for v3 Xeon and comes with 14 Cores.
i just got my hand on an i7 5960X and its surprisingly good for its age
Might be worth it for me, but I don't like ordering stuff off random websites and fiddling with BIOSes. That said, for productivity, going from an i5-4690K to something like this would probably do a lot for me. Though now I've looked at it and I'd probably see a hit in single-threaded and not very highly threaded applications, which is most of what I do. I might just stick to this config until it gets to be impractical, then I'll buy something at a reasonable price and good value for money, with the presumption I'll get more performance for the money then than now.
Why not buy an i7-4790K for your current platform?
You will gain performance everywhere and they are quite cheap. Not $11 cheap but still cheap.
Even if you plan a future big upgrade of everything it will still be a good temporary upgrade until you get your big upgrade.
The i7-4790 non K version is another good choice if you can't find any of the K versions at a cheap price. They tend to be much cheaper than the K counterparts and only be a few fps less, which makes them a fair choice if you don't plan on overclocking. From watching a few gaming benchmarks, the i7-4790 is 10-20 fps worse than the i3-10100, and it's equal to the Ryzen 5 1600AF. Upgrading from my i5-4590 to the i7-4790 removed random fps drops and stuttering in a couple of my games.
The question with these old Xeons is primarily if they're worth it compared to buying used 1st/2nd gen Ryzen and a cheap used (or even new) AM4 motherboard.
I can see the appeal of used workstation PCs if you can get one for
Even low-end Ryzens these days would beat old Xeon E5's. The only real advantage of a Xeon build is if you need Ram > 128GB. For gaming, I think the Xeons are well past their prime.
The thing is, if you manage to get a used AM4 system, you can eventually upgrade to the higher end chips on that platform, and you won't have to deal with manufacturer restrictions that might be set in the bioses/design of workstation PCs. I think it really depends on if you find a good Xeon system that doesn't restrict you much and is at a good price.
Definitely want to see the 6950X compaired to the 5960X
It has ~10% IPC improvement and most games won't take advantage of the two extra cores. I'd imagine the difference would be pretty negligible
@@kenobi639 That's what I thought about the 1680v2 compared to the 4960X. That ended up being a good 10% to 30% faster depending on the game.
There're lots of problems with these CPUs. They are very cheap, but using them is very expensive.😕
what u mean
They sucking power like hell , like 300-400w when normal cpu only using
My favorite kind of video - bargain Xeons! Still running an X3450@3.6Ghz here, which probably costs next to zero these days.
I'm loving all the uploads, keep up the good work
I recently bought myself an e5 2697 v3 and it only cost me $15!!! Which is a steal, can turbo unlock up to 3.6ghz 13 cores 26 threads and 3.5 ghz all cores. Performance wise in gaming is similar to a i5 10th gen. Pairing with a rx 5700 xt that i bought used for $90 and there is no bottleneck whatsoever.
Gotta say with a cheap chinese mobo pair and an e5 2697 v3 pair up with a rx 5700 xt, my whole entire setup only cost $175!!! including ram, psu, mobo. Which is an absolute steal!!
Btw this cpu can draw alot of power compare to most modern cpu. So yeah the cpu might be cheap but the electricity bill, not so cheap.
Honestly if you want your build to be future proof its best to buy a new modern cpu tho.
thanx a ton for the episode, needed this to reaffirm my dedication to the x99
platform
I'm a simple man, whenever i see X99 xeon vids, i click.
Can we get the power consumption data?
500$ a hour
The CPUs are cheap, but when you look for decent motherboards that’s where the cost is going to bite you.
I mean, 40€ for a mAtx x99 mother board aint that bad, is like a a520 mother board
@@Camilo_D2005still awful for modern gaming
that struggle, even made me tempt go visit my local ewaste shops just in case
You can just get a whole HP Z440 Workstation for under 100 bucks... That's not just a motherboard, but a case, PSU, other gubbins included.
I’ve been buying this one bundle of an X99 board with a Xeon 2670 and 16gb of DDR4 for a very reasonable price. Paired with a budget card like an RX580 or 1070 and they’re a very solid 1080p gaming machine!
Just bought myself an X99 motherboard and a E5-2697 v3 CPU, maybe you should compare the higher core models with Turbo Boost Unlock.
2696 v3 with Hyperthreading disabled. That's 40 MB L3 cache and 18 cores, a few of which can burst to 3.8GHz. Don't forget to disable Spectre and Meltdown protections. The protections limit cpu functionality and the security flaws really shouldn't affect gamers
Im currently running a dual Intel Xeon E5 2690 V4 setup, its very impressive for old hardware, the other bios mod not mentioned here is enabling resizeable BAR, he mentions quad channel but both dual socket boards i bought of Aliexpress failed when fully populating the memory slots despite the ram being quad channel ram capable, which is why im slowly building up a Dual Epyc 7302 setup. Cinebench R23 23357 out scoring the threadripper 1950X and 9858 in 3dmark fire strike extreme with an MSI Gaming X Trio Nvidia RTX3060.
2:45 what's more important - it's compatible with DDR3 ECC which so so cheap on the used market rn that (at least in my country) you can get sticks of 8 GB for 4,5$
please test more CPUs that are ultra budget like this
I would love to see how the V4s differ from the V3s mostly because I just purchased a pair of E5-2643v4 for an old HP Z840
i have a 1650v4 and compared to the 1650v3 that iceberg used. i got a 490 on single in cpuz (v3 got 383) and i got a 3550 on multi (v3 got 2887)
i'm happy with my e52640v3 due the power usage lowe than the 2 first cpus listed in the video.
Bro this is amazing you just showed me another backdoor to budget 🤝 you can get toons of performance with low prices but your bills will tell you so but idc. Thanks I appreciate this massively bro
There is third, new, "vulnerability" patch called Downfall. It can be disabled through regedit only and it re-enables inSpectre and Meltdown if they are already disabled so you need to disable them again after you disable this one.
Also don't drop CS2, it may be buggy at the moment but the engine will be used for next 10 years at least, thats for sure!
Valorant is anime rip of CS.
Best regards.
This was incredibly useful! I'm running a second hand Dell Precision workstation that I upgraded to an E5-2650v3 and have been agonizing over whether to change to a different chip. The confusion over whether the Passmark score or the base clock was more important threw me off. I may just give a 1650 a try.
I don't game but I do 3D animation in blender and wanted to run AI locally on on my workstation so I built a dual X99 workstation with 32 cores and 256gb ddr4 ram 1TB m.2 ssd and a 1080 TI for only 500 dollars, runs very fast and I can feel the power, it's able to run every single thing I throw at it without breaking a sweat, I can render AI images, raytraced blender animation and web browse at the same time without even a little slowness. Also the naming scheme for Xeon is easy, the last 2 numbers tell you how good it is, similar to i3 i5 i7 bigger number being better the last 2 numbers tell you how good it is, if it ends with something like 10 or 20 it's low end, if it ends with 99 or 98 it's the highest performance and highest core count chip. Also if you want to run dual CPU's you have to make sure the first number starts with 2
I am so happy that a new video is out.
I wouldnt mind a video like this but with 50$ processors to be honest, I would think it would do amazing too, or the best ones UNDER 50$
Mate the biggest issue is the x99 mabos.. these are super expensive on the 2nd hand markets
I bought an HP Z440 for $120, 16 GB DDR4 2400 RDIMMs in a quad channel setup, Xeon E5-1650v4, 700W 80 plus gold PSU and I picked up an RX 5500 XT for $70 USD.
Love it. LOL.
check out those TDPs - your power company will be loving you
I think those cpus would benefit a lot more with rebar.
Not sure if these CPU are the best bang for the buck. If you can get a cheap Ryzen 3600 cpu and a cheap b450 mobo blows this out of the water.
Couldn't sleep, thanks for the vid.
Sir, you have a SUPERB motherboard there. The G1 is one of the best I've ever had.
Pretty sure 16xx v3 are unlocked so the 1650v3 and maybe the 1620v3 should have unlocked multipliers. It was not until the v4 that the 16xx's were locked down.... I know specifically the 1620s went back and forth from being locked to unlocked in some revision, but i cant remember which. At a minimum, the 1650 v3 should be multiplier unlocked.
The intel 10th Gen 4 core 8 thread CPU’s are the best value right now.
MX-4 FTW. I've been using it for years.
the E5-2699v3 is an insany performer even compared to modern processors giving on average around twice the performance of the 1650, well worth the $41 it costs on Aliexpress though the people I have heard that used it used it several years ago when it was only recently replaced and probably bought for a couple hundred (at the time, $200 for such a CPU was insanely good).
Very informative. Thank you!
The problem now is 2011 non 3 versions are crazy expensive for a standard model, and rare for any other producer
Wow! Can't believe such cheap CPUs can run cards like that, I gotta look into this further.
What's the model machinist board you used and is it still holding up well?
My xeon 2660 v4 is still serving me well today. My 2080 ti is slightly showing it's age, but is still excellent. Not upgrading anytime soon.
Great video!
Could you compare something like the 8-core E5-2667 with faster clocks Vs the 14-core E5 -2680 with lower clocks?
I recently built a €300 Dell precision tower build with an E5-2680 v4. I’ve turned off HT for a small bump to gaming performance but with 14 cores it runs great in games like Cyberpunk paired with cheap RX 6600. Curious to see if fewer (but still many like 8) but faster cores would get better gaming performance in modern titles.
I don’t have a 2667 to compare but from my own testing I get the impression the lower clocked higher core count v4 Xeons actually do better overall in games from the last 3 years. I suspect the larger L3 on the high core count models help too.
I wish gpu prices had followed cpu prices over the last 10yrs. In 2013, $350 got you a great cpu (i7 4770) and in 2023, $300-$400 still gets you a great cpu (7800x3d, 13700k).
In 2013, Around $700 got you a top class video card like a 780ti or 290x, Now a $700 video card.. isn't much. Barely mid-range.
1650v4 is the way to go for just ~20$
Mad props for talking about the "turbo boost unlock" mod. Most youtubers use these v3 without it, which is no fun at all. The 2640v3 would be a bettert test subject tho. Ran one of these for a while and it did well some 2-3y ago.
Was looking for cheap gaming PCs for my kids. I went with the 1650 v4 CPUs that I found in HP Z440 Workstations. Paired with 3060s they are powerful and very quiet machines for about 400€ that play anything on 1080p and most on 1440p.
Dude! Why dont you do a video on the quietly never talked about Intel xeon E3-1290-(V2) (v3). Its basically a K sku i core locked in at the highest tuned specifications.
Thanks for the suggestion. E3 V1 and V2 chips aren't a review priority for me right now, partly because I prefer to recommend chips with AVX2, but mostly because my Z77 board broke!
@@IcebergTech for sure, I get it but it would be the talk of the town if you could get your hands on a dell optiplex 3010 for $30 and dropped in that e3-1290-V2 sku. Those old piles of junk with that processor run neck and neck with 6th gen i7 6700 minus the avx-2.
Ive only witnessed it once and it appears all these chips are stockpiled in china. Were never released in the U.S or the U.K and was a special order.
Glad you atlast looked at x99 xeon's! ive been constantly commenting about and also respect for mentioning Miyconst, he appreciates it! Also definitely get 2696v3 18 core 36threads 3.8ghz xeon for 50$ and test it your selft. I was quite surprised by low performance in wz2 with 2640v3, though you didn't test it with turbo boost unlock mode. 2696V3 with 10 core 20 threads core lock at rock solid 3.8ghz after mod, gave me around 120-140fps in warzone 2 with RTX 3080. Would love to see it on your channel!
I don't want to make any promises, but the 2696v3 is the Xeon I'm most interested in looking at. Going to see if I can get the Gigabyte working with the turbo mod, too - there have been a few suggestions in the comments that I'm going to try out.
absolutely beat
the 2696v3 in my opinion is the best e5 26xx v3 cpu cs it can reach 3.8ghz
@thaddeus2447 have u tried turbo boost unlocked and BCLK to 104 (maybe) ?
@@fastglitch i have huanan x99 bd4 which has only B85 chipset, it's not really possible to overclock it using bclk on such boards. Should be possible on branded onces
@@thaddeus2447 yeah ! that's true
I got an old 12 core xeon mother board and 16 gb ddr4 ram for 60 quid and it works. Gonna use it as a home server.
Do you live in Country with cheap power? When not dont do it! These CPUs consume up to 80W alone and Xeons dont have good C State Support.
@@TheAkustikusa server should not use any c state
@@marcelhaase8416 On a home server? Of course you need C States you dont want your PC running full power 24/7. Youre not serving thousands of people...
@@TheAkustikus for a home server that is just hosting data i agree, but other applications or service are often not designed to work on system with c states. Most home server are used as adblocker, DHCP or DNS.
@@marcelhaase8416 In those cases you dont need a home server. A Raspberry Pi and a good router is all you need for that.
I wish the Xeon silvers were priced like this, got a Lenovo P720 that is in need of a second one...
Processadores pós-Taxxad e varejo, daqui para frente TODO computador em solo nacional VAI ser equipado com uma belezinha dessas 👍
Isto já é uma realidade pra mim !!!! Só que uso um Xeon e uma Rx um pouco melhores...
There is a much larger gap between Haswell and Skylake than I expected. If not for this benchmark, I would assume 6 core Haswell to be a better performer than Skylake 4 cores, but doesn't seem to be the case.
I didn't do a chart for the productivity benchmarks, but at 4.5GHz the 1650 v3 mops the floor with the 6700K at the same clocks. Blender Classroom completes in 11 mins vs 14, Davinci Resolve 4K H264 render in 22 mins vs 27, and the Haswell wins all the synthetics by a decent margin, too.
Can't believe this channel doesn't have more views and subs. Decent quality content!
I still run a E5 2640V4 in my third system. Still capable.
Where did you find E5-1650 v3 at such prices since cheapest is around 20 euro?
I think the 2697 v3 with HT disabled is the meta for the v3 xeons. 14 cores @ 3.6ghz with an undervolt and turbo unlock you have 14c/14t @ 3.4-3.5ghz e5-2667 v4 8c/16t @ 3.5ghz all core might be best though.
the 2666v3 is also a good one, but since that was more or less an "OEM only CPU" it is a bit rare.
similar to an 2660v3 so 10c/20t but with higher clocks since it got much higher TDP.
some motherboards don't even list it, hell even Intel ARK don't list it, but most motherboards runs it with zero problem.
(tested it in an Gigabyte X99-UD4, MSI X99A G7 and is now resting in my server that got an AsRock X99 Extreme 11, none of these boards had the 2666 listed but was found correct by all of em)
i "retired" mine after getting hold of a second hand "new in box" with recipe Ryzen 7950x last February for a price that i felt a bit sorry for the seller (got it for 2500 NOK so around 220€ and even included an Noctua 120mm cooler)
problem for the 2666 and 2697 is the price on the i7 6950x can be even as cheap after a whole-seller in China flooded the market with B-grade versions of it, i picked up one for just over 50$ early last year for a "budget build", and with the 6950x you get one newer generation and working XMP (and DDR4 3000 and 3200 can be had for cheap and for my case gave a 25% increase in fps in most games at 1440p versus 2133MHz).
Bet this vid took a long time to make... Three whole CPUs, one of them running at three different speeds!
Yeah, I was gonna do two vids last week but this one ended up eating way too much time!
Don’t get that much time to watch your vids, but when I do I’m always astounded by their quality AND quantity. Your subscriber count WILL grow exponentially with this kind of work rate. Keep up the great work!
been running an S2600CW2R motherboard with a couple 2670v3s for a year now, upgraded from 2630v3s because i got the 2670s for £30 each. good to see its possible to now get 2699v3s for around the same price.
i managed to snag the motherboard for just £15 on ebay in 2021, the listing had no info or names beyond the item code directly off the box so nobody could see it in search results except for the word Intel.
gonna be waiting for those Broadwell EP chips to come down before upgrading again, 2 x 12c 24t is already a lot for my processing needs
I bought a E5 2680V4 for 13usd with a x99 matx with ddr4 ecc 128gb ram. Wirks great for home lab
the xeon list on wikipedia is vastly more helpful than intel's website tbh
And I didn’t even think to check Wikipedia…
Couldn't agree more! Everything grouped by generation and laid out very nicely for comparisons.
Maybe i have violent diarrhea but this notification is what i need
Good Luck with the Mainboard
Where is Zen 1/2/3 in the charts?
can you do a comparison between the best fx and cheapest ryzen just to show off how truly bad fx was
For Budget Builders i have the Ultimate Build for you: A Xeon E5 2640v4 a X99 Mainboard 16 Gb Ram Quad Channel and a RTX 2070.
Cost of the Build: 250€
is the Athlon x4 950 AMD the pre ryzen era worth buy just for 5 dollars?
It's low end quad-core
I want light ish gaming and just for decent daily use?
I wish you did compare these with an overclocked i7 5960x, a gaming cpu from the same era but with a similar xeon architecture. Also, one could get an AM4 board+an early ryzen paying some more and would still have a possible upgrade path till 5800x3d, while x99 does not have the same advantage.
I see you're using ddr4 2133 speed memory.
Would you like some 2666 for future testing, gaming, etc..?
I have a few extra 8gb stick sets of 4 that I don't use. If you would like a set, its yours.
Please use highest end, 18 core 2699 v3 or 2698 v3 as they have 45 and 40mb of cache, more than twice the amount your tested samples
1620v3 is currently paired with my Machinist MB and 16 gigs of quad channel mem, as well as gtx 950. Still works fine for light gaming!
I'd like to see your stats on E5-2698 v3, thats what im running but somehow scared of bios tricks because this is my main system.
*There is a guy selling a full Xeon e5 2640 v3 pc right now for $280 or so that's a steal in my country where a Ryzen 5 1600x pc is $650 USED so this vids timing is uncanny mate*
where are you bro
Is it some workstation or a china board?
@@Pasi123 china board buy i dont mind.
China boards are fine, but check WHICH China board. Some are cheap garbage and will fail in a few months, some will last years. Ask the seller if he put a custom BIOS on. Most today come with turbo boost unlock, resizeable bar, BCLK 100 and memory timings unlocked. That's at least 15-20% free performance over just stock in a workstation if everything is tuned properly.
@@b0ne91 nice ill look into that specific board before buying my issue is i might let this one pass just to get a Ryzen 5 5600 or i3 12100 just cause i like either of those two but then again i like the 8 cores etc. hmm rough one also i will be pairing mine with a RTX 2060 12 gig so it will perform quite good i feel.