This must have taken *ages* to put together but what a comprehensive guide this is. This should be required viewing for punters looking to assemble a low cost but capable rig for 2024. I'm glad you touched on the lack of a upgrade path for Zen 3, when I put my current rig together that was the final piece that made me choose Zen 4.
Thing is zen 3 would still be good 3 years later esp the 5700x3d and 5800x3d. By then it would be a better upgrade path. Even building from scratch zen3 still offers the best value for budget gamers
@@ghamsterroff6215 True but I was coming from another dead-end tech (7th gen Kaby Lake) and since I only upgrade every 5 years or so I thought Zen 4 was a better choice. You're right though, Zen 3 still has a lot of legs left.
Still using a 1070Ti from 2018 paired with a r5 5600 and a second machine with 1070 with r5 2600 and Im more than happy with the performance. Considering a second hand 2080Ti soon :)
where are looking for your used GPUs? I've found Ebay still overvalues 2000 series cards (over 200 a lot of the time) so I'm looking to snag a 3070 for sub 300 or a 3080 around 300 as they sometimes end bidding there from high feedback sellers.
Im looking at local second hand market in my country and prices are yes 2080's for around 230 usd and 3070's for 330usd wich is not cheap but what can you do gpu market sucks, gonna use my 10 series a little longer.
@@Kasev309 Ya i'm looking now so I can try and snag one of the underpriced deals, specifically a $300 3080. My 1070 will hang on until then. If my state wasn't a complete shitshow for computers I'd be looking local. But everyone is only sell complete systems,some are good price but not worth parting out to get the rest of the money back.
One point I would throw in the Vega 64/56's favour in regard to PSU cost; is the build quality of those cards is mostly excellent, reference cards use top tier VRM and plenty of premium capacitors. AMD lost money on every card. So a Vega 64 is quite happy with a 650watt powesupply of somewhat ok quality and 550watt of decent quality, where as a 3070; despite pulling less power, is more prone to transient spike shutdowns/stability issues like for like. Vega's were hungry for their time, but no where near as temperamental about PSU wattage/quality as modern cards.
It's widely believed that Nvidia used a smear campaign to try and keep AMD competition "out of the game" Trust No-one esp. Nvidia fanbois, Nbots are Nbought probably😂
@@johncollins5552 the problem is...AMD need to stop trying to do a 7600XT. Stuffing 16GB of ram on a 7600 and expect people to crank up settings but with the same raster of 7600? They literally follow Nvidia's already questionable 4060ti 16gb thing, yet you will defend them like old dogs, because "underdog nuh uh"
@baoquoc3710 4060ti 16gb would have been amazing if it didn't release at the same price as the 7800XT lol. The point of both are to be cards with long legs, that you can run in 2028 and not feel the urgent need to upgrade as 1080p gets phased out. The issue with the 4060ti is that the used price in a few years will be double the used price of the 7600XT and it will be competing with future low end cards with 16gb of VRAM that will inevitably be cheaper.
The transient power spike issues have been greatly improved on RDNA3 and Ada. It's the 30-series that is really bad and RDNA 2 series which is somehow worse.
Fantastic round-up! The used market can be intimidating but this was really eye opening to understand the intricacies of what's worth and what to avoid. Thank you for a great year of content; looking forward to next year!
Ever since my friend introduced me to the used market I’ve been addicted to buying tech for me and my friends. My rig would usually cost 3000 but cost me 1600. Good vid, Iceberg, happy new year!
You and me both. I just left a comment above about that very topic. TH-cam removed it, which is strange because I did not say anything bad at all... lol
Kudos for going all the way back to Terascale! Still using it in my laptop in 2024, though it definitely won't start too many games anymore these days. Not only are Dx12 and Vulkan entirely unsupported, but OpenGL support is sketchy to say the least as well. Even OpenGL 4.5 games, which should run, often don't. GCN 1, while still mostly obsolete these days, is MUCH more usable
@@Eleganttf2 Thanks, but dw, I've also got a fairly capable desktop for gaming ;). I just generally can't run the same games on my laptop (though I've found it can be better for old games in some cases)
That machine still probably SLAYS Kotor lol. If you are into star wars it's a great game. Even if you aren't "into" Star wars it can still be enjoyed just as much as long as you aren''t someone who can't stand it. It takes place 4000 years before the movies so it is extremely detached from them @@SterkeYerke5555
@@SterkeYerke5555I had a kabini AMD a6 5200, which I believe was gcn 1, could have been 2? R3 graphics, I played BF4 on that thing, at about 30 fps low. But older games ran great, even saints row the third nfs mw ug2 and carbon.
@@SkylineFinesse Should be GCN 2 from what I'm seeing. Probably pretty decent considering the cpu it's paired to. I'm surprised NFS Carbon ran well though. Even on my 6770M it runs, well, fine I guess, but surely not perfectly. That 6770M was somewhat high-end for a laptop only two years before your A6 was introduced. I'm running it at 1920x1200 at medium to high settings though, with some mods to make the game a bit more modern. Guess I can't complain
This has become one of my favourite tech channels on TH-cam. The sheer consistency in quality of uploads is a rare thing that makes Iceberg Tech a gem. Keep at it bro :)
You're such a gifted writer and presenter. And you somehow managed to wrestle over a decade's worth of hardware down to about 42ish minutes, keep it entertaining, keep it informative, and of high quality. Perhaps wrestle is the wrong term, as it's probably more some type of verbal judo you're using. Anyway, great job!
Consider this as a humble New Year gift! Awesome video as always and keep them coming! Also i would like to recommend a couple of extra games for the next benchmark rounds that maybe would be a bit interesting those are Deep Rock Galactic, Rust and The Finals. Happy new year Iceberg!
Good video. Remember to have fun with whatever hardware you have, there are no doubt many games that you've never played that will work on the older hardware you have. I was recently at a family rural vacation property when the weather was very bad outside. I played Batman: Arkham Asylum on a SFF pc that has an i5 2500s and 720gt. Around 10yr old hardware, I turned the settings down and overclocked the card a little and had a lot of fun.
hell yeah. I think I'm actually having more fun replaying older games on my i5-6300 ThinkPad (with no discrete graphics!) than playing fresh releases on my main rig. Part of the fun comes from actually running the games on (relatively) weaker hardware.
Incompatibility of old games is very annoying. When i changed pc, i couldn't play half of my retro shooters, like Unreal Tournament, Gore, Soldier of Fortune etc. they just wouldn't run on the new machine 😢
I just bought a Vega 56, specifically the Powercolor Vega 56 Nano version and one of my deciding factor is watching your Vega 56 retrospective. The end of mining craze really dropped the price hard and fortunately mine is only used for gaming. In my experience my Vega 56 is still a viable 1080p budget option considering I got it for $70. Mine has only the 8 pin though which limits the power draw to a mere 150W which surprisingly doesn't really hurt the card that much aside from some mediocre overclocking result. I upgraded it from an RX 570 and I think while my new card might not get the proper support, the modded driver might still help the card to be usable for years to come.
Very nice! I upgraded in a very similar way. I needed a GPU for a project and was interested in Vega because of its architecture. So I replaced my RX 580 Strix with a Vega 64 Nitro+ for 100 bucks. About 50% faster, really shines with undervolting. Stock 240w, around 950mV and 1600MHz and 1100MHz HBM 130-170w in games,
If you haven't tried it recently then you should really give Linux gaming a try. GCN GPUs (even GCN 1) are still officially fully supported by the open source AMDGPU drivers and given the track record of support for older hardware on Linux that's unlikely to change any time soon. Gaming on Linux has improved massively over the past few years in large part thanks to Valve's Proton compatibility layer which makes it possible to run many Windows-only games by just clicking the play button in the Steam client.
@@electricindigoball1244 I was about to comment this. The driver support issue only applies to Windows, Linux provides support to graphics cards for effectively indefinitely. My HD 7950 was recieving MESA updates when I was still using it a few months ago, until its 3GB VRAM became completely insufficient and I copped a $50 RX580 8GB. It was also significantly faster than when I used it on Windows, thanks to both the drivers being excellent and Linux's super low overhead, despite running under wine/proton.
What a way to start 2024. Appreciate these informative videos. They help a lot in understanding and figuring out what could be considered the "minimum" for entry level budget gaming. Thanks for doing some honest work. Cheers!!
In yesterday's morning i picked up a used 12G RTX 3060 for 225 euro, bit overpaid but the seller delivered the gpu to me, so its a fair deal to me. Few years ago i was with a GT710, then to an RX560, and now moving up from a 3G 1060. The 1060 will go down to my little brother's pc, i got him the pc in december, got a monitor and a new mouse too, and next time i arrive back home, he too will have a potent pc. Enough to play fortnite, cod zombies and some other games together. Finally we both will have gaming pcs, not the best, but we had to play the same xbox 360 for 7 years straight.
Good god, and the alleged "1060" 3gb eas the SECOND upgrade even, protip the 3gb isn't the same as 1060 6gb it's actually cut down in the same way their newer bullshit is called something better than it is, 3040? 4040? I forget anyway, at that point you'd be better off just getting a 6600xt, or a used 5700xt. Or 1080ti. It's really not much money at all, hell you could work for Best Buy or Walmart or something and make enough to afford a used 5700XT in a day or two's wages which is amazing.
@@drek9k2 I'm aware of the better value that AMD cards offer, I did have 6600XT as my possible alternative, but after the RX560 I did not want another AMD card, it was crashing WAY too much for me. Either my system did not like it or I had a bad sample of it. Regardless I am happy with my 3060, performance is great, fits well in my small case too. I chose it just purely by preference. I was also aware of the 3G 1060 being a cut down of the 6G model, it was back in the "Scalper pandemic" and simply wanted to get rid of the 560 ASAP. All is good now B)
Recently bought one of those LGA 1150 Xeons (E3-1271V3) for ~$30USD to upgrade my old i5 4570/R9 290 build. Looking forward to installing and benchmarking it to see how much more performance I can squeeze out of that surprisingly still capable machine!
Thank you for this type of content. Bought 1080 TI for 160$ recently, because saw your video about it. I was considering Rx 5700, before saw your content and video about 1080 TI .
This is one of the most relevant yet comprehensive used tech videos I have seen maybe ever. This video is somehow 45 minutes long yet contains no fat. Absolutely great vid
I bought a EVGA 1080ti FTW Elite for like 100 euro. It has around 1000h of use time 600 of which are mining, the rest is gaming. Never been happier with a purchase.
Iceberg super cool video. This was a creative way to start 2024! I’ve watched your content through 2023 and find it super relevant for my use case, being a non-top tier hardware user. Plenty of deals to be had on the used market.
Im addicted to the used market. Buy, build, resell. Rinse and repeat. I loved testing older hardware and finding new uses for it. I modded a bunch of Tesla cards and turned them into Titans and just gave them away to people who did not have a GPU during the scam-demic.
Gs. (Btw, if you wanna possibly get samples from companies just putting a business email on the channel is an easy thing to do. You could reach out specifically to companies, but that takes a long time and I don’t do it either. Hope this helps my dude)
Thanks bud Yeah, I get some companies emailing me, mostly mini PCs so far (as well as the usual VPNs, USB chargers and crypto scams I assume we all get hounded by) I actually had an email from one of the salvage GPU brands, but I didn't like their terms. I think they basically wanted me to make an ad.
Really like the way you've explained recent hardware in the used market - a brilliant video for those who aren't particularly versed in the PC hardware. Personally I'd draw the line at Turing and RDNA1 (5700xt) for GPUs and 2nd gen 2600x /8700k if you want a decent experience for this gen's games . Playing older games can really help in terms of needing older hardware.
I bought a used 7600x (£185), B650 Tomahawk Wifi (£106) and Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR5 CL30 (£103) totalling about £395. All of them advertised as opened, unused/used once. I was extremely happy with my purchases, especially considering brand new would cost around £530. I don't mind buying brand new, and usually do, but I made an informed decision to try this out for the first time just to see if it's worth it - I have no regrets and will definitely explore used again in the future. It just goes to show that if money is an object, like it is for most people, then you can go down this path and if you want to buy more expensive brand new components, you can sacrifice on others by going used.
This has got to be one of the best and most comprehensive videos i've seen with regards to used GPUs. I was looking for a sort of guide into the best used GPU under £100 in the UK. I was looking for one with X265 decoding and if possible encoding. This video has taken me on a whole other rabbit hole of future CPU's to look at too. Currently on 16gb, intel 3570s, 1tb mx500 all in an ITX case. I'm probably going for a 470/570 from cex. Thanks for the effort put into this channel, I will be going through the back catalog! Thumbs up.
Last gpu I bought new was the HD 4870, wich I was very happy with. Since then I got lucky with every used pc part and sometimes I made money out of it when selling.
Great video, I've come to most of the same conclusions. What a fantastic time to be into PC hardware, there's absolutely something for every budget. The fact that stuff that's a decade old can still be relevant today blows my mind. Can you imagine using a Pentium 4 in 2014?
Absolutely needed that primer at the start of the video, can't say I'm well-versed in computer tech despite following the channel (2017 laptop 'gamer') so that bit at the start was welcome Many happy returns for 2024!
Absolutely amazing overview of the used graphics card market for 2024. I very much appreciate this incredibly well done video man. I look forward to seeing an update to this video in 2025. :)
Got a GTX 960 4GB for $45 at beginning of December! XP god machine/Basic Vulkan Linux workhorse, you have arrived. To kill the insane coil whine in old title menus (looking at you, Halo CE) and improve stability, I cut my i7-2600 frequency to 1600MHz and cut down on cores as needed. To anyone doing the same - cap your frame rates. There’s no need to have a 2000fps menu, especially with old hardware.
I want a 4GB 960 so badly. You can't beat native and power-efficient analog output and 240p support for CRT displays. Not to mention overhead for playing some modern games up to 720p/1080p optimized settings.
Monster of a video. Subbed, just to show respect. Great trip down the memory lane, at the same time catchup material for an aging dad who is now building pc for his son.
The only used PC components I've bought were graphics cards: a couple of 980Ti cards and an R9-290. Yeah, it's been a while. All three were in basically new condition, even the boxes. These days, I'd be more hesitant.
I bought a 3070 in April in 2023 and I struggled so much trying to repair it and going to a bunch of repair shops with it... ended up reselling it as "broken", personally I'm never buying gpus second hand again
Great video! I had this on while doing the ironing and almost burned my house down only once. Just to say it was very entertaining and well put together!
As always, phenomenal video. Got stoked to see a 45 minute long video by you, today out of all days because I needed something to focus on while dealing with a stomach ache and I forgot I wasn't feeling well for a while, so thank you! lol!
I havent purchased a new gpu since i built my first pc in 2014 and bought a gtx 960. My next gpu was a used 1080ti from Ebay for $500 in 2016 or 17, then an rtx 3080 with a cracked backplate I bought for $500 in 2022. I paired the 3080 with an old stock 12600k + mobo for $150 when the 13th gen came out. That combo has been crushing all the games I play at 3440 x 1440. One my best purchases was the EVGA supernova 850w psu i bought when building my first PC. It was extreme overkill, but it worked out great with how much power PC hardware draws these days.
What an absolutely fantastic and informative video! Thank you for all your hardwork. I know this video is going to help so many people tremendously. Your depth of knowledge, and easy to understand video format is perfect for those who are feeling lost in the used market, and I can't wait to see what 2024 has in store for your channel buddy! Cheers!
This video is a godsend. Amazing work wrapping it up in as little time as you did. I will have to make some adjustments for my local market of course but now when people ask me to build them a a PC I have a much more focused search for parts.
Although im writing by the time you say '9900k' , its already the most on point video for used parts. And im a guy that flips over 5 years now , and i still do it. Big ups!
I ran a GTX 1080 for several weeks about a year ago. It performs about in line with a 3060 at 1080p and actually comes close to a 3060 Ti at 1440p. I got mine for $150 but have seen them as low as $120 in recent days.
Your section on Turing is spot on. I'm personally running an i5 13600k and a EVGA 1070, running a 2560x1080 21:9 monitor, performance is pretty decent with a few GPU heavy titles/VR needing FSR in order to feel smooth. 16:30 There's a mod for Minecraft that utilizes mesh shaders called "nvidium", a fork of a performance mod called "Lithium" which pverhauls the lighting engine.
This video is important! this should be a manual for anyone interested in using a pc either for work or gaming. Never stop educating yourself and growing! this video has everything! what a massive effort! fantastic value in one video!
Top notch quality to cap off 2023 / bring us into the new year as expected. It must be my lucky day! Thank you again for all your efforts and hard work!
built my gf a budget pc. R5 1600, 16gb ddr4, gtx 980, 512gb ssd, older 700w psu. All that for like 130€ and the coolest thing is the clear upgrade path
I will say in my market (Near Seattle) the 1060 6GB is averaging $60-$80, but the 1080 (Non TI) is selling for $80 to $100, and finding a 1080 at $80 is easier that a 1060 6GB at $60, so the 1080 is a no brainer for the 10 series here. oddly the 1070 seems to average around $100, maybe because owners who didn't bother spending the extra for the 1080, are less grounded about the value loss these older cards have experienced. I currently use an RX 7900 XT i got for $400 when the previous owner decided he needed the RX 7900 XTX. The used market here in Seattle is fantastic.
With how insanely high they want to keep pushing graphics without actually trying to improve performance and stuff the fact they got rid of things like duel gpu setups it honestly just saddens me… by the time I got into pc gaming and pc tech properly this was getting phased out :(
This was a crazy amount of work and it was extremely comprehensive. My 'luxury' gaming rig is 12600/DDR4 based and now running an eBay $405 RX6800XT which has been awesome. However, I'd like to address the Xeons segment. As an alternative to the sketchy X99 motherboards I'd like to suggest looking at repurposing older workstations. I've been running a pair of HP Z420 machines with E5-1650V2 processors and 32GB of ECC DDR3. You can buy the whole box for around $200 and it usually comes with a 600W PSU. For the longest time I ran it with a GTX1660TI and it's just a drop in with the purchase of a 6 pin to 8 pin adapter. It's a pretty competent gaming machine even today. I even ran an 8GB RX580 in it before I sold it to an idiot miner for almost 3 times what I paid for it. It's a pretty easy system to recase if you want to but I repurposed mine as a stonkin TRUENAS server with the addition of five 10 TB drives. The Z420 is now 14 years old but it's still a useful machine.
In 2022 I bought a brand new RX 6600 right after the market boom when prices went back to relatively normal, to replace my old RX 570 that I bought just one month before the market boom. After several months, I sold my RX 6600, and added another ~$20 to buy a used RX 6600 XT. Then, after several months, I sold the RX 6600 XT, add another ~$30, and bought a used RX 6700 XT. I got lucky with the used RX 6600 XT. It was an MSI OC edition, mint condition, low price. No dust, almost no observable physical wear. Performance also on par with brand new. But the RX 6700 XT was not as good. The screw points of the fan bracket were broken, there were corrosion and dust. Performance also around 5% less then normal.
Dude you are like the AHOY of the gpu space. Same high quality graphics, same high quality voiceover. Keep up the good work, you’ll hit 1,000,000 subs in no time!
Fun fact: old graphics cards are better supported on Linux, since graphics drivers are basically never removed. My Terascale 3 iGPU still works with the latest drivers. Even GCN 4 (RX 4xx and RX 5xx) is basically guaranteed to stay supproted for at least the next decade, and so will Turing GPUs with the new nvidia open source driver
This was an excellent video. Incredibly well written and researched. Your presentation was great as well. I wish more channels would do this kind of breakdown on the used market, including super old hardware that isn't officially supported anymore. For people looking to do new or overhauled builds in like the $400-$600 range I wonder if something like the Steam Deck, Z1 Extreme Ally, or Legion Go would be a viable alternative; unless they needed a desktop system for one reason or another. Used non-OLED Decks have seen a bit of a price drop and you can find used 512GB Legion Gos under $600. For primary gaming purposes, I'd imagine those handhelds would offer better over-all performance than a lot of the older GPU options and their CPUs aren't that weak either. This is especially true for the models using the Z1 Extreme.
I'm somewhere in Africa where there's no gpu market. Aliexpress shipping costs are way too much. For building my 1st PC, i had to settle to using a freight forwarder by getting 580 8gb 2048 from ebay and it was expensive af, but it's been so worth it. Unfortunately such is the price of being where i live that i pay nearly double what a gpu is worth.
I upgraded my gaming PC which left me with a spare 2700x. I used it to upgrade my HTPC from FM2+ to AM4. To save money, I bought the other necessary parts like the MB, the cooler and DDR4 RAM used on ebay. I have had good experiences with it. Next is a used gpu, probably a 3060 or a 6650xt.
Bought both a 3060ti and 3080ti (used) of marketplace. Both are holding well, serving in my home and work rigs to this day for video editing/gaming. The 3060ti was bought during the highest point of the Cryptoboom and the 3080ti during the onset of the AI boom so they weren't cheap. Both were tested in front of me with the seller though so I was pretty much convinced. I run my 4K TV off my 3060ti and 5900x rig with 64GB DDR4 and I couldn't be happier (Watching this video off it right now as I type this).
I've had the RX 5700 XT Red Devil for about 4 months last year, It was a great experience honestly. Beast of a card pair it with a capable CPU like the Ryzen 3600, I5-10400f, or even the I5-10600k. Then you'll run games similarly close to a RTX 2080 in some titles. For example like games from 2019-2021 will only be a few fps behind the RTX 2080. If you're wondering how much I paid for the RX 5700 XT Red Devil was about $145 USD USED. I brought of Jawa. As of recently I've gave away the RX 5700 XT.
thanks to this video i decided on a used 2080 super instead of a brand new 3060. price wise these are literally identical in poland, but 2080s averages 20fps more compared to 3060. seems like a great deal to me
Every 9 of my PCs have used gpus and motherboards. They are all quality builds. I would say 80-90% of all 9 PCs are used or open box parts. Mostly cases and power supplies are the new parts. I have one new 5600x and 7600x and the other 7 were bought on the local market. Recently bought a $260 7800x3D new in sleeve locally. Also a MSI gaming X trio 6950xt for $360. Asus B650e-e ($330 board) and 7600x ($220) both for $240. Corsair 5000D case for $40. Seasonic 850watt Platinum for $50 Gskill Ripjaws 32GB DDR5 6400MT CL32 new for $50
what a great video, I thoroughly enjoyed this longer video format. While its not as viable or possible most of the time as you tend to review a single product per video, it might be nice to have the casually long video on the occasion. Also, happy new years! Here's hoping that 2024 is a much better year for PC Enthusiasts and the market!
You really deserve more! You're the best pc guy i know for older hardware, and i hope u will finally get recognized in this new year. Your content and quality of it are insanity high and inspiring. When i first discovered this channel, i thought that it was good, but now I think that i found a gem! Maybe unpolished one, but a pretty valuable one!
Thank you for such an in depth video. I play most games that I play on my 1070 in 1440p or higher, at the highest settings. It's frankly annoying hearing everyone regard it as a 1080p card when it can do most games in 4k if 60 FPS in your target. Yes, "most games" includes older games. If you only play games that are less than a few years old (what kind of gamer are you if you do that though, seriously) or play a lot of indie games, then the 1079 is budget 4k card, not a 1080p one. Why is everyone assuming that all gamers need more than 60 FPS? Yes, if you need more than that, then it's a 1080p card. But most games play great in 60 FPS.
![BOWKYLION - วิงวอน (ex-change) [Official MV]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/cLdnZWDaO-w/mqdefault.jpg)
Can't wait to get my 4090 in five years.
that will probably be when you need one
If it's gonna be 600-800 dollars by then, I will definitely buy it.
Bouta be getting a terrible 2000 fps on fortnite man it's gonna suck in 5 years 😔
We will be there
@@Thomas_Angelo Buy then newer $600 cards will be faster (just like the case now with the $600 4070 Super being as fast as a currently $900 3090)
This must have taken *ages* to put together but what a comprehensive guide this is. This should be required viewing for punters looking to assemble a low cost but capable rig for 2024. I'm glad you touched on the lack of a upgrade path for Zen 3, when I put my current rig together that was the final piece that made me choose Zen 4.
It’s hard too appreciate
Thing is zen 3 would still be good 3 years later esp the 5700x3d and 5800x3d. By then it would be a better upgrade path. Even building from scratch zen3 still offers the best value for budget gamers
@@ghamsterroff6215 True but I was coming from another dead-end tech (7th gen Kaby Lake) and since I only upgrade every 5 years or so I thought Zen 4 was a better choice. You're right though, Zen 3 still has a lot of legs left.
Still using a 1070Ti from 2018 paired with a r5 5600 and a second machine with 1070 with r5 2600 and Im more than happy with the performance. Considering a second hand 2080Ti soon :)
where are looking for your used GPUs? I've found Ebay still overvalues 2000 series cards (over 200 a lot of the time) so I'm looking to snag a 3070 for sub 300 or a 3080 around 300 as they sometimes end bidding there from high feedback sellers.
Im looking at local second hand market in my country and prices are yes 2080's for around 230 usd and 3070's for 330usd wich is not cheap but what can you do gpu market sucks, gonna use my 10 series a little longer.
@@Kasev309 Ya i'm looking now so I can try and snag one of the underpriced deals, specifically a $300 3080. My 1070 will hang on until then.
If my state wasn't a complete shitshow for computers I'd be looking local. But everyone is only sell complete systems,some are good price but not worth parting out to get the rest of the money back.
i had my eyes on 6700XT that were 300$
Why 2 computers? You could sell them and easily build an DDR5 machine.
45 minutes long video to start the year.
Let´s go🔥🔥🔥
One point I would throw in the Vega 64/56's favour in regard to PSU cost; is the build quality of those cards is mostly excellent, reference cards use top tier VRM and plenty of premium capacitors. AMD lost money on every card. So a Vega 64 is quite happy with a 650watt powesupply of somewhat ok quality and 550watt of decent quality, where as a 3070; despite pulling less power, is more prone to transient spike shutdowns/stability issues like for like. Vega's were hungry for their time, but no where near as temperamental about PSU wattage/quality as modern cards.
It's widely believed that Nvidia used a smear campaign to try and keep AMD competition
"out of the game"
Trust No-one esp. Nvidia fanbois, Nbots are Nbought probably😂
@@johncollins5552 the problem is...AMD need to stop trying to do a 7600XT. Stuffing 16GB of ram on a 7600 and expect people to crank up settings but with the same raster of 7600? They literally follow Nvidia's already questionable 4060ti 16gb thing, yet you will defend them like old dogs, because "underdog nuh uh"
I had a Vega 64 back in the day, served me for 5 years. Beautiful card.
@baoquoc3710 4060ti 16gb would have been amazing if it didn't release at the same price as the 7800XT lol.
The point of both are to be cards with long legs, that you can run in 2028 and not feel the urgent need to upgrade as 1080p gets phased out. The issue with the 4060ti is that the used price in a few years will be double the used price of the 7600XT and it will be competing with future low end cards with 16gb of VRAM that will inevitably be cheaper.
The transient power spike issues have been greatly improved on RDNA3 and Ada. It's the 30-series that is really bad and RDNA 2 series which is somehow worse.
Fantastic round-up! The used market can be intimidating but this was really eye opening to understand the intricacies of what's worth and what to avoid. Thank you for a great year of content; looking forward to next year!
Ever since my friend introduced me to the used market I’ve been addicted to buying tech for me and my friends. My rig would usually cost 3000 but cost me 1600. Good vid, Iceberg, happy new year!
You and me both. I just left a comment above about that very topic. TH-cam removed it, which is strange because I did not say anything bad at all... lol
Where do u get ur parts from
Happy new year 🎉
Kudos for going all the way back to Terascale! Still using it in my laptop in 2024, though it definitely won't start too many games anymore these days. Not only are Dx12 and Vulkan entirely unsupported, but OpenGL support is sketchy to say the least as well. Even OpenGL 4.5 games, which should run, often don't. GCN 1, while still mostly obsolete these days, is MUCH more usable
My sympathy and condolences for you buddy
@@Eleganttf2 Thanks, but dw, I've also got a fairly capable desktop for gaming ;). I just generally can't run the same games on my laptop (though I've found it can be better for old games in some cases)
That machine still probably SLAYS Kotor lol. If you are into star wars it's a great game. Even if you aren't "into" Star wars it can still be enjoyed just as much as long as you aren''t someone who can't stand it. It takes place 4000 years before the movies so it is extremely detached from them @@SterkeYerke5555
@@SterkeYerke5555I had a kabini AMD a6 5200, which I believe was gcn 1, could have been 2? R3 graphics, I played BF4 on that thing, at about 30 fps low. But older games ran great, even saints row the third nfs mw ug2 and carbon.
@@SkylineFinesse Should be GCN 2 from what I'm seeing. Probably pretty decent considering the cpu it's paired to. I'm surprised NFS Carbon ran well though. Even on my 6770M it runs, well, fine I guess, but surely not perfectly. That 6770M was somewhat high-end for a laptop only two years before your A6 was introduced. I'm running it at 1920x1200 at medium to high settings though, with some mods to make the game a bit more modern. Guess I can't complain
This has become one of my favourite tech channels on TH-cam. The sheer consistency in quality of uploads is a rare thing that makes Iceberg Tech a gem. Keep at it bro :)
You're such a gifted writer and presenter. And you somehow managed to wrestle over a decade's worth of hardware down to about 42ish minutes, keep it entertaining, keep it informative, and of high quality. Perhaps wrestle is the wrong term, as it's probably more some type of verbal judo you're using.
Anyway, great job!
Consider this as a humble New Year gift!
Awesome video as always and keep them coming! Also i would like to recommend a couple of extra games for the next benchmark rounds that maybe would be a bit interesting those are Deep Rock Galactic, Rust and The Finals.
Happy new year Iceberg!
did I hear rock and stone!?
bro donated 1usd
@@beansrreal that's why i said a humble gift
@@raellgeramiebalagbis9384 if you don't rock and stone you ain't coming home
Funny how you got pinned for a UKP 0.49 donation🤣🤣
You're Argentinian, not Ethiopian. That's not a humble donation, it is a troll.
Good video. Remember to have fun with whatever hardware you have, there are no doubt many games that you've never played that will work on the older hardware you have. I was recently at a family rural vacation property when the weather was very bad outside. I played Batman: Arkham Asylum on a SFF pc that has an i5 2500s and 720gt. Around 10yr old hardware, I turned the settings down and overclocked the card a little and had a lot of fun.
hell yeah. I think I'm actually having more fun replaying older games on my i5-6300 ThinkPad (with no discrete graphics!) than playing fresh releases on my main rig. Part of the fun comes from actually running the games on (relatively) weaker hardware.
Incompatibility of old games is very annoying. When i changed pc, i couldn't play half of my retro shooters, like Unreal Tournament, Gore, Soldier of Fortune etc. they just wouldn't run on the new machine 😢
I just bought a Vega 56, specifically the Powercolor Vega 56 Nano version and one of my deciding factor is watching your Vega 56 retrospective. The end of mining craze really dropped the price hard and fortunately mine is only used for gaming.
In my experience my Vega 56 is still a viable 1080p budget option considering I got it for $70. Mine has only the 8 pin though which limits the power draw to a mere 150W which surprisingly doesn't really hurt the card that much aside from some mediocre overclocking result. I upgraded it from an RX 570 and I think while my new card might not get the proper support, the modded driver might still help the card to be usable for years to come.
That's why I love amd you can always count on the community
Very nice! I upgraded in a very similar way. I needed a GPU for a project and was interested in Vega because of its architecture. So I replaced my RX 580 Strix with a Vega 64 Nitro+ for 100 bucks. About 50% faster, really shines with undervolting. Stock 240w, around 950mV and 1600MHz and 1100MHz HBM 130-170w in games,
If you haven't tried it recently then you should really give Linux gaming a try. GCN GPUs (even GCN 1) are still officially fully supported by the open source AMDGPU drivers and given the track record of support for older hardware on Linux that's unlikely to change any time soon. Gaming on Linux has improved massively over the past few years in large part thanks to Valve's Proton compatibility layer which makes it possible to run many Windows-only games by just clicking the play button in the Steam client.
i got a used RX 580 2048 (a china OC'd RX 570) back covid., cahnged my perspective towards used hardware, not on used storage or PSU ofc lol.
@@electricindigoball1244 I was about to comment this. The driver support issue only applies to Windows, Linux provides support to graphics cards for effectively indefinitely. My HD 7950 was recieving MESA updates when I was still using it a few months ago, until its 3GB VRAM became completely insufficient and I copped a $50 RX580 8GB.
It was also significantly faster than when I used it on Windows, thanks to both the drivers being excellent and Linux's super low overhead, despite running under wine/proton.
What a way to start 2024. Appreciate these informative videos. They help a lot in understanding and figuring out what could be considered the "minimum" for entry level budget gaming. Thanks for doing some honest work. Cheers!!
In yesterday's morning i picked up a used 12G RTX 3060 for 225 euro, bit overpaid but the seller delivered the gpu to me, so its a fair deal to me.
Few years ago i was with a GT710, then to an RX560, and now moving up from a 3G 1060. The 1060 will go down to my little brother's pc, i got him the pc in december, got a monitor and a new mouse too, and next time i arrive back home, he too will have a potent pc. Enough to play fortnite, cod zombies and some other games together.
Finally we both will have gaming pcs, not the best, but we had to play the same xbox 360 for 7 years straight.
Thats a pretty good deal
Bless you bud
Good god, and the alleged "1060" 3gb eas the SECOND upgrade even, protip the 3gb isn't the same as 1060 6gb it's actually cut down in the same way their newer bullshit is called something better than it is, 3040? 4040? I forget anyway, at that point you'd be better off just getting a 6600xt, or a used 5700xt. Or 1080ti. It's really not much money at all, hell you could work for Best Buy or Walmart or something and make enough to afford a used 5700XT in a day or two's wages which is amazing.
@@drek9k2 I'm aware of the better value that AMD cards offer, I did have 6600XT as my possible alternative, but after the RX560 I did not want another AMD card, it was crashing WAY too much for me. Either my system did not like it or I had a bad sample of it. Regardless I am happy with my 3060, performance is great, fits well in my small case too. I chose it just purely by preference. I was also aware of the 3G 1060 being a cut down of the 6G model, it was back in the "Scalper pandemic" and simply wanted to get rid of the 560 ASAP. All is good now B)
What?! My friend that is a good damn deal (in My country vzla, they don't go down from 280/290 used)
Glad to have an IcebergTech video on the first day of a new year. Hope the GPU market will be kinder this year.
Recently bought one of those LGA 1150 Xeons (E3-1271V3) for ~$30USD to upgrade my old i5 4570/R9 290 build. Looking forward to installing and benchmarking it to see how much more performance I can squeeze out of that surprisingly still capable machine!
price of v4 xeons wore not appeling?
Sadly, the motherboard is a B85 one that only supports the v3 xeons.@@DanielGT_93
damn good one
How's it working out? I just got a dell with a e5 series of Xeon
Thank you for this type of content. Bought 1080 TI for 160$ recently, because saw your video about it. I was considering Rx 5700, before saw your content and video about 1080 TI .
This is one of the most relevant yet comprehensive used tech videos I have seen maybe ever. This video is somehow 45 minutes long yet contains no fat. Absolutely great vid
The quality of these videos are just outstanding… it’s been a few years since I’ve subbed… and just better and better!
I bought a EVGA 1080ti FTW Elite for like 100 euro. It has around 1000h of use time 600 of which are mining, the rest is gaming. Never been happier with a purchase.
Iceberg super cool video. This was a creative way to start 2024!
I’ve watched your content through 2023 and find it super relevant for my use case, being a non-top tier hardware user. Plenty of deals to be had on the used market.
Im addicted to the used market. Buy, build, resell. Rinse and repeat. I loved testing older hardware and finding new uses for it. I modded a bunch of Tesla cards and turned them into Titans and just gave them away to people who did not have a GPU during the scam-demic.
Gs.
(Btw, if you wanna possibly get samples from companies just putting a business email on the channel is an easy thing to do. You could reach out specifically to companies, but that takes a long time and I don’t do it either. Hope this helps my dude)
Thanks bud
Yeah, I get some companies emailing me, mostly mini PCs so far (as well as the usual VPNs, USB chargers and crypto scams I assume we all get hounded by)
I actually had an email from one of the salvage GPU brands, but I didn't like their terms. I think they basically wanted me to make an ad.
Happy new year, I hope this year your channel explodes in popularity. The quality of your content deserves it.
Really like the way you've explained recent hardware in the used market - a brilliant video for those who aren't particularly versed in the PC hardware. Personally I'd draw the line at Turing and RDNA1 (5700xt) for GPUs and 2nd gen 2600x /8700k if you want a decent experience for this gen's games . Playing older games can really help in terms of needing older hardware.
These "buying used" videos that you have started doing are infinitely valuable in the DIYPC market. WE thank you.
In depth explanation, good recommendations, no fanboying.
Here's my sub.
2024 started like 12 hours ago🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I bought a used 7600x (£185), B650 Tomahawk Wifi (£106) and Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR5 CL30 (£103) totalling about £395. All of them advertised as opened, unused/used once. I was extremely happy with my purchases, especially considering brand new would cost around £530.
I don't mind buying brand new, and usually do, but I made an informed decision to try this out for the first time just to see if it's worth it - I have no regrets and will definitely explore used again in the future.
It just goes to show that if money is an object, like it is for most people, then you can go down this path and if you want to buy more expensive brand new components, you can sacrifice on others by going used.
This has got to be one of the best and most comprehensive videos i've seen with regards to used GPUs.
I was looking for a sort of guide into the best used GPU under £100 in the UK. I was looking for one with X265 decoding and if possible encoding. This video has taken me on a whole other rabbit hole of future CPU's to look at too.
Currently on 16gb, intel 3570s, 1tb mx500 all in an ITX case. I'm probably going for a 470/570 from cex.
Thanks for the effort put into this channel, I will be going through the back catalog!
Thumbs up.
Last gpu I bought new was the HD 4870, wich I was very happy with.
Since then I got lucky with every used pc part and sometimes I made money out of it when selling.
Great video, I've come to most of the same conclusions. What a fantastic time to be into PC hardware, there's absolutely something for every budget. The fact that stuff that's a decade old can still be relevant today blows my mind. Can you imagine using a Pentium 4 in 2014?
Absolutely needed that primer at the start of the video, can't say I'm well-versed in computer tech despite following the channel (2017 laptop 'gamer') so that bit at the start was welcome
Many happy returns for 2024!
One hell of a video! Great and useful info as always, much appreciated. You have outdone yourself yet again Sir ❤
Absolutely amazing overview of the used graphics card market for 2024. I very much appreciate this incredibly well done video man. I look forward to seeing an update to this video in 2025. :)
LETS GO 1060 GANG STILL RUNNING STRONG
No
😮
Lol
true
I was running a 1070 till literally 2 days ago 😭😂
Got a GTX 960 4GB for $45 at beginning of December! XP god machine/Basic Vulkan Linux workhorse, you have arrived.
To kill the insane coil whine in old title menus (looking at you, Halo CE) and improve stability, I cut my i7-2600 frequency to 1600MHz and cut down on cores as needed. To anyone doing the same - cap your frame rates. There’s no need to have a 2000fps menu, especially with old hardware.
I want a 4GB 960 so badly.
You can't beat native and power-efficient analog output and 240p support for CRT displays.
Not to mention overhead for playing some modern games up to 720p/1080p optimized settings.
Monster of a video. Subbed, just to show respect.
Great trip down the memory lane, at the same time catchup material for an aging dad who is now building pc for his son.
Gratz on the 50k subs :D
Thanks 😁
Happy new year🎉 this year is going to be better
Incredible video mate. Hope you get parts sent for review soon. 60k subs is a crime for this kind of content. Keep working it will come.
The only used PC components I've bought were graphics cards: a couple of 980Ti cards and an R9-290. Yeah, it's been a while. All three were in basically new condition, even the boxes. These days, I'd be more hesitant.
I bought a 3070 in April in 2023 and I struggled so much trying to repair it and going to a bunch of repair shops with it... ended up reselling it as "broken", personally I'm never buying gpus second hand again
Bought a used 6800 XT last year in March, 0 problems with it. Later bought a used ryzen 5700x, also 0 problems with it. Depends on luck
I totally appreciate this deep dive. As a hobbyist buyer/builder/flipper this information and your views are invaluable. Thanks!
I like the lengthy in-depth vids once in a while. Great job Iceberg!
Great video! I had this on while doing the ironing and almost burned my house down only once. Just to say it was very entertaining and well put together!
As always, phenomenal video. Got stoked to see a 45 minute long video by you, today out of all days because I needed something to focus on while dealing with a stomach ache and I forgot I wasn't feeling well for a while, so thank you! lol!
I havent purchased a new gpu since i built my first pc in 2014 and bought a gtx 960. My next gpu was a used 1080ti from Ebay for $500 in 2016 or 17, then an rtx 3080 with a cracked backplate I bought for $500 in 2022. I paired the 3080 with an old stock 12600k + mobo for $150 when the 13th gen came out. That combo has been crushing all the games I play at 3440 x 1440.
One my best purchases was the EVGA supernova 850w psu i bought when building my first PC. It was extreme overkill, but it worked out great with how much power PC hardware draws these days.
What an absolutely fantastic and informative video! Thank you for all your hardwork. I know this video is going to help so many people tremendously. Your depth of knowledge, and easy to understand video format is perfect for those who are feeling lost in the used market, and I can't wait to see what 2024 has in store for your channel buddy! Cheers!
Amazing video and roundup !
Epic way to start the year. Fantastic look over at where we are and exceptionally helpful.
This video is a godsend. Amazing work wrapping it up in as little time as you did. I will have to make some adjustments for my local market of course but now when people ask me to build them a a PC I have a much more focused search for parts.
Although im writing by the time you say '9900k' , its already the most on point video for used parts. And im a guy that flips over 5 years now , and i still do it. Big ups!
24:32
Love the little knock on wood after you said “never had a Radeon fail on me”
It’s actually my skull 💀
@@IcebergTech so people must call you a (wood) blockhead, huh?
Ha! No, nobody talks to me 😥
I ran a GTX 1080 for several weeks about a year ago. It performs about in line with a 3060 at 1080p and actually comes close to a 3060 Ti at 1440p. I got mine for $150 but have seen them as low as $120 in recent days.
Fantastic round-up! Happy 2024 Iceberg!
Your section on Turing is spot on. I'm personally running an i5 13600k and a EVGA 1070, running a 2560x1080 21:9 monitor, performance is pretty decent with a few GPU heavy titles/VR needing FSR in order to feel smooth.
16:30 There's a mod for Minecraft that utilizes mesh shaders called "nvidium", a fork of a performance mod called "Lithium" which pverhauls the lighting engine.
This video is important! this should be a manual for anyone interested in using a pc either for work or gaming. Never stop educating yourself and growing! this video has everything! what a massive effort! fantastic value in one video!
Top notch quality to cap off 2023 / bring us into the new year as expected.
It must be my lucky day!
Thank you again for all your efforts and hard work!
You are one of my favorite PC retro review TH-camrs.
Keep up the great work and thank you for all of your work on reviewing old tech in new context.
I don't comment often but holy sh*t indeed... thank you for your service sir! What an amazing video! Hats off to you.
built my gf a budget pc.
R5 1600, 16gb ddr4, gtx 980, 512gb ssd, older 700w psu. All that for like 130€ and the coolest thing is the clear upgrade path
What a way to celebrate new year. Thank you, with all my love.
I planned to upgrade to Zen5 this year from a 5900X, but I still have no use case for the higher performance.
No need to upgrade if you don’t have a use case
Yeah, You have cpu for 3 more gen or more (who knows?) 🤷🏻
I will say in my market (Near Seattle) the 1060 6GB is averaging $60-$80, but the 1080 (Non TI) is selling for $80 to $100, and finding a 1080 at $80 is easier that a 1060 6GB at $60, so the 1080 is a no brainer for the 10 series here. oddly the 1070 seems to average around $100, maybe because owners who didn't bother spending the extra for the 1080, are less grounded about the value loss these older cards have experienced.
I currently use an RX 7900 XT i got for $400 when the previous owner decided he needed the RX 7900 XTX. The used market here in Seattle is fantastic.
50K subs, nice man. The channel is finally being seen
With how insanely high they want to keep pushing graphics without actually trying to improve performance and stuff the fact they got rid of things like duel gpu setups it honestly just saddens me… by the time I got into pc gaming and pc tech properly this was getting phased out :(
Happy New Year - first tech vid I watched this year. Cheers 👍
This was a crazy amount of work and it was extremely comprehensive. My 'luxury' gaming rig is 12600/DDR4 based and now running an eBay $405 RX6800XT which has been awesome. However, I'd like to address the Xeons segment. As an alternative to the sketchy X99 motherboards I'd like to suggest looking at repurposing older workstations. I've been running a pair of HP Z420 machines with E5-1650V2 processors and 32GB of ECC DDR3. You can buy the whole box for around $200 and it usually comes with a 600W PSU. For the longest time I ran it with a GTX1660TI and it's just a drop in with the purchase of a 6 pin to 8 pin adapter. It's a pretty competent gaming machine even today. I even ran an 8GB RX580 in it before I sold it to an idiot miner for almost 3 times what I paid for it. It's a pretty easy system to recase if you want to but I repurposed mine as a stonkin TRUENAS server with the addition of five 10 TB drives. The Z420 is now 14 years old but it's still a useful machine.
Back in 2018 I bought a Vega56 that is still used for gaming, now in my kids' PC. It's still a great card. Never had any problem with it.
In 2022 I bought a brand new RX 6600 right after the market boom when prices went back to relatively normal, to replace my old RX 570 that I bought just one month before the market boom. After several months, I sold my RX 6600, and added another ~$20 to buy a used RX 6600 XT. Then, after several months, I sold the RX 6600 XT, add another ~$30, and bought a used RX 6700 XT.
I got lucky with the used RX 6600 XT. It was an MSI OC edition, mint condition, low price. No dust, almost no observable physical wear. Performance also on par with brand new.
But the RX 6700 XT was not as good. The screw points of the fan bracket were broken, there were corrosion and dust. Performance also around 5% less then normal.
Dude you are like the AHOY of the gpu space. Same high quality graphics, same high quality voiceover. Keep up the good work, you’ll hit 1,000,000 subs in no time!
Fun fact: old graphics cards are better supported on Linux, since graphics drivers are basically never removed.
My Terascale 3 iGPU still works with the latest drivers. Even GCN 4 (RX 4xx and RX 5xx) is basically guaranteed to stay supproted for at least the next decade, and so will Turing GPUs with the new nvidia open source driver
This was an excellent video. Incredibly well written and researched. Your presentation was great as well. I wish more channels would do this kind of breakdown on the used market, including super old hardware that isn't officially supported anymore. For people looking to do new or overhauled builds in like the $400-$600 range I wonder if something like the Steam Deck, Z1 Extreme Ally, or Legion Go would be a viable alternative; unless they needed a desktop system for one reason or another. Used non-OLED Decks have seen a bit of a price drop and you can find used 512GB Legion Gos under $600. For primary gaming purposes, I'd imagine those handhelds would offer better over-all performance than a lot of the older GPU options and their CPUs aren't that weak either. This is especially true for the models using the Z1 Extreme.
Love my 7900 XT.
She'll be in my system for a few years to come. AMD is awesome for long system life :)
I'm somewhere in Africa where there's no gpu market. Aliexpress shipping costs are way too much. For building my 1st PC, i had to settle to using a freight forwarder by getting 580 8gb 2048 from ebay and it was expensive af, but it's been so worth it. Unfortunately such is the price of being where i live that i pay nearly double what a gpu is worth.
Which country?
@@My_Old_YT_Account lesotho
Damn, 2 days in and you already dropped the best tech video of the year
Extremely well researched and presented video. That's tech journalism, not mere youtubing
Really enjoyed the hardware history and alternative buying guide for hardware; taking us all down the yellow brick road!
I upgraded my gaming PC which left me with a spare 2700x. I used it to upgrade my HTPC from FM2+ to AM4. To save money, I bought the other necessary parts like the MB, the cooler and DDR4 RAM used on ebay. I have had good experiences with it. Next is a used gpu, probably a 3060 or a 6650xt.
Bought both a 3060ti and 3080ti (used) of marketplace. Both are holding well, serving in my home and work rigs to this day for video editing/gaming. The 3060ti was bought during the highest point of the Cryptoboom and the 3080ti during the onset of the AI boom so they weren't cheap. Both were tested in front of me with the seller though so I was pretty much convinced. I run my 4K TV off my 3060ti and 5900x rig with 64GB DDR4 and I couldn't be happier (Watching this video off it right now as I type this).
I've had the RX 5700 XT Red Devil for about 4 months last year, It was a great experience honestly. Beast of a card pair it with a capable CPU like the Ryzen 3600, I5-10400f, or even the I5-10600k. Then you'll run games similarly close to a RTX 2080 in some titles. For example like games from 2019-2021 will only be a few fps behind the RTX 2080. If you're wondering how much I paid for the RX 5700 XT Red Devil was about $145 USD USED. I brought of Jawa. As of recently I've gave away the RX 5700 XT.
Enjoyed every minute, both entertaining and educational for a PC casual like myself.
My best used build in 2023 was an i5-8500 office PC that came with NVME and 16gb ram, that i put a used RX6600 in. Monster of a gaming rig...$250.
Thanks for the fun trip down memory lane! It’s great to see some affordability coming back to the PC market.
This is the benchmark, good work. Your effort will be certainly be awarded trust us
Thank you so much for putting this all together. I am looking at building a used parts PC to play older games and this helped immensely
thanks to this video i decided on a used 2080 super instead of a brand new 3060. price wise these are literally identical in poland, but 2080s averages 20fps more compared to 3060. seems like a great deal to me
An incredible amount of info this video - outstanding work.
Sub'd for the info. Luv'd the swearing & honesty, salute.
Every 9 of my PCs have used gpus and motherboards. They are all quality builds. I would say 80-90% of all 9 PCs are used or open box parts. Mostly cases and power supplies are the new parts. I have one new 5600x and 7600x and the other 7 were bought on the local market.
Recently bought a $260 7800x3D new in sleeve locally.
Also a MSI gaming X trio 6950xt for $360.
Asus B650e-e ($330 board) and 7600x ($220) both for $240.
Corsair 5000D case for $40.
Seasonic 850watt Platinum for $50
Gskill Ripjaws 32GB DDR5 6400MT CL32 new for $50
what a great video, I thoroughly enjoyed this longer video format. While its not as viable or possible most of the time as you tend to review a single product per video, it might be nice to have the casually long video on the occasion.
Also, happy new years! Here's hoping that 2024 is a much better year for PC Enthusiasts and the market!
Thank you for putting in the time for this excellent video history.
You really deserve more! You're the best pc guy i know for older hardware, and i hope u will finally get recognized in this new year. Your content and quality of it are insanity high and inspiring. When i first discovered this channel, i thought that it was good, but now I think that i found a gem! Maybe unpolished one, but a pretty valuable one!
Thank you for such an in depth video. I play most games that I play on my 1070 in 1440p or higher, at the highest settings. It's frankly annoying hearing everyone regard it as a 1080p card when it can do most games in 4k if 60 FPS in your target. Yes, "most games" includes older games. If you only play games that are less than a few years old (what kind of gamer are you if you do that though, seriously) or play a lot of indie games, then the 1079 is budget 4k card, not a 1080p one. Why is everyone assuming that all gamers need more than 60 FPS? Yes, if you need more than that, then it's a 1080p card. But most games play great in 60 FPS.
Fantastic video, very useful, very professional. Thanks Sir.
Bought a 980Ti for a friend as a birthday present, upgrading him from 660.. that was such a huge jump.. crazy.
Excellent content and current landscape summary! Keep up the great work and happy New year!
Great way to start the year. Good round up of whats good to buy. Hope you'l have a great year to come. Happy New Year!🎉🎉🎉