@@Davidcallard😂 100%. The whole vehicle industry if full of no one's, he knows it all, even caravan manufacturers know nothing, simply an amazing know it all, do nothing with it. I'm yet to hear of his manufacturing company though, either car, trailer, caravan or motor home. That speaks volumes to me, he throws shit around all manufactured vehicles, accessories etc but can't do better himself. Hmm, sorry, needs to be a bigger Hmmmm.
As a light automotive technician who worked on these pieces of junk for 2 years at the second biggest LDV dealership in Australia, I strongly advise all sane consumers to avoid these unreliable, rusting from day 1 heaps of crap at all costs. If you can’t afford a new Japanese brand, buy a second hand Toyota Hilux, Isuzu D-Max or maybe a Mitsubishi Triton. Avoid all other brands unless you have lots of cash. You have been warned.
Do any of them completely refund your monies when a known issues occurs, hmm, seems not, Toyota dragged through the courts to fix known issues on Prado/Hilux DPF and now in the states apparently over motor issues, at least all vehicles recalled and new motors being fitted, I'd rather a refund myself but that's just me as no vehicle every performs well after technicians have stripped it down and rebuilt it, there always an annoying rattle, stripped threads. I'm not a LDV fan yet but the way they have looked after this chap us very persuasive. Another TH-camr who advocates Great Wall is getting exceptional service as well, they replaced his seat base as the squab had deteriorated after 100K. Suspect his TH-cam status helped, GWM rather appease than have his followers upset. Any other manufacturers would claim wear & tear, but not GWM. Chinese brands appear to know how to win over influences and hence sales come of it.
@@aidenschvatkok5732 rust on chassis, rust on panels, certain places there is a bar on the rear tray and you remove it and underneath isn’t painted and rust starts.
That's insane! My 2011 hilux has 430,000kms. All I've done is brake pads, tyres and shocks. I'm a farmer, so it has a pretty hard life. It would still sell for half the retail of the LDV. Sorry, I just think it's false economics. My father's 95 hilux has just gone over 600,000!
There's something to be said about reliability on Toyotas. I had an '86 Corona with over 600k km on it. The AC still worked perfectly on a Brisbane summer day. Chatting to a guy about newer Toyotas. He told me his Camry had nothing but normal services since new. He then invited me to read the odometer -836,000km (523,000 miles).
The older Toyota's are bulletproof but unfortunately the modern latest models are garbage and don't hold same durability they once prided themselves with.
@@EdmundSampson-pd7vi We're looking at getting a Lexus NX, and would be curious to know how reliable they are compared to older Toyotas. Not that we do many KMs with semi retirement but breaking down in just a real pain. We've got a 2011 Toyota Kluger with 172,000km on it that finally broke down the other day. Rats got in and chewed some wires. Easy fix though.
@@doncoleman4938 The problem when buying a new,new car there's no way of knowing what future bugs and defects it will present with regular wear and tear miles ect, especially with all the tech new cars have.personally I think buying a new car is pretty crazy. Atleast with a car that's 3 to 5 years old it's pretty easy to research and get an idea of how reliable and what issues they have had so far and it still has the feel of a new car.
People need to understand that China manufactures down to a price not up to a standard. They’re exceptionally good at making “stuff” that looks great and is cheap, but not reliable.
Yeah my local dealer is doing 20+ buybacks per month....must be alot nationwide. The importer of LDV imports a stack of brands...worthwhile researching
In the case of the queensland chap. He had bought the extra corrosion protection. Although ldv seem to be honouring most warranty. Im not sure if the rust warranty was more than 5 years in New Zealand.
The reason you have no trouble with LDV is because they’ve already lost a court case in Queensland over exactly the same issue of rust. Now that a ruling has been made it’s easy to get refunds. The guy who took them to court got shafted by LDV for months.
Chinese junk, I have gone through two Hoover Vacuum cleaners, both the maximum times used 20 if lucky, the motors burn out, when Hoover manufactured in Australia the used to last 15 years, I'm 75 and not lieing.
I still have the older lay down unit of my mums, weighs a ton but it still works. Mum didn’t like the weight of it though🤭 i had assumed from the onset these cheap 4wd would be rubbish.
@@DarrenBoxhall That is one expensive vacuum cleaner, now I will be buying $50 machines, faulty or need repairs , into the trash, no more being ripped of by Chinese junk.
Bought a used 10 year old hilux diesel 2wd for $9500 five years ago. It's now worth about $15,000. I have put another 160,000km on it with zero problems. It goes 700km on 60 litres of fuel regardless of how you drive it. Plenty of power, comfort, with Toyota build quality. What's not to like? Why would anyone buy Chinese?
The smash repairs that my wife worked for, had a contract with the local Chinese vehicle dealer. As soon as the vehicles came off the ship, they went straight to the smash repairer to have the rust cut out and the panels refitted as they couldn't even handle the journey to be delivered.
Hi there Mike. I’ve had an absolute nightmare with my LDV T60. it’s a 2022 model model. I’ve had everything from my alternator going six months ago with my car being off the road for 6 to 8 weeks due to not having any spare alternators in the country so luckily I was able to get a higher vehicle, three months to buy my vehicle my drivers seat started fraying and LDV told me it’s normal wear and tear which I fought and they eventually replaced the upholstery months later. It’s fraying again! I bought a manual and my clutch has been nothing but a nightmare with an independent mechanic telling me that there is definitely something wrong with it and the release point was way too low. I mentioned this to LDV who inspected it and said it was normal. The clutches becomes so bad now that I sometimes can’t even get it into reverse or other gears. You pay $45,000 for a new vehicle. You expect a lot more customer service has been pathetic at both dealerships that I’ve taken it to my door handles which are the chrome doorhandles are now flaking and my event control mechanism just fell out. On top of all of that looking under my vehicle, I’ve just noticed rust which brought me to your video. it’s been an emotional rollercoaster over the past two years and almost had me giving up. I appreciate your video and any advice for me would be helpful thank you Chris.
& now after years of complaining there’s an issue with my clutch. The issue has becoming incredibly worse with now not being able to get into certain gears being a manual car. Took to LDV dealership, LDV Australia gave me a loan car, and had a phone call from LDV dealership to say LDV Australia want them to open up the gearbox but it will cost me $630!! This I’ll get back if the issue is warrantable. a day later I get a call from the dealership saying the issue after inspection and speaking with LDV warranty team Australia have come to the conclusion that it is wearing and tear and to get it fixed will cost me $5500!! DO NOT BUY AN LDV T60 Ute!! I am now going to VCAT
thing is you can only fit 0.5 in a xr6 , and cant tow the full 3.5t most tradies would need like excavators etc. If you do work you need a truck, iv got Isuzu 450 tipper tuned, it beats diesel dual cabs off the lights while carrying 4t in the tray and towing a 3t excavator, Plus with the height and wheel size can drive straight up kerbs and park wherever you need. Uses less fuel than a ranger too. a trip that cost 900 diesel in my ranger cost 600 in the truck fully loaded, and felt like i was driving my lounge room around , so comfy
@@sonofdati agree, i run a truck daily and i cant even tell when iv got a 3.5 trailer on plus can put 4.5 in the tray, but most dual cabs are rated to tow 3.5 and can handle it allot better than a falcon ute. Falcon ute would be dead in 2 months but a diesel dual cab would do it for years still
@oudonbail I never said anything about trying to tow 3.5 tonnes with my falcon ute. You said that!And dont need too. I don't understand your comparison. I still think dual cab utes suck and I'm still keeping my xr6 ute.
@sonofdat I'm lost, what is your point ? BTW I'm not hating your ute, iv got a old xf I'm getting ready to rebuild and hoping to find your type of motor to fit in it
Let's face it, Aussie cars were crap. People just trying to remember the good ol days but they weren't actually good! Japanese cars kill everything else.
Most of the time you do , I have a 34 year old Lexus , there’s still no rust to be seen of any consequence, , although the motor is getting a bit tappetty , no complaints for its age though , also have a 7 year old Camry , had to replace the battery on it last year , other than that , it has not seen a spanner put on it for anything but it’s basic yearly service , air con still blows cold , everything still works like the day it came out of the factory. If I had to replace a 3 year old car for rust reasons , that would be the first and last time I would be buying from that manufacturer. As for paying extra for a car to look cool , I think this bloke misjudges the majority of Australians.
@@petercraig806 I have driven rental camper van HiAces with 700k kms on the clock. So worn out that the whole windscreen wiper rack needs replacing. So old that the light control stick blows and only high beam flash works. So old that you feel like you are settling into an old sock when you climb behind the wheel. . But they still complete the 1100km straight drive between where they were dropped off and where they need to be relocated to for the next clients... just by putting in fuel. Comfortable? On 60psi LingLong radials.....yeah, nah.
Mitsi triton GLX-R 2011 cost me $19k .. had 124k's when I bought her in 2018 now got 209k's .. bought from 1st and only 1 owner with all paperwork of upgrades and services never missed a beat been on plenty bush n beach bbq's 100% satisfaction ..
I saw a muso on stradbroke beach Bogged to the arse it spun 1 wheel Not bad for a 4wd and it was even hard to snatch out Junk The fellas missus was goin ballistic We helped em though With dirty patrol sort of power We got em out And said get back on tar
I bought the D90 and had it for 18 months or so now. No issues at all, reliable so far. Have another 5.5 years of full warranty so if anything goes wrong we're sorted. Happy so far!
@@MikeBowles-w8u I'm not selling it, I'll run it into the ground. It'll be used for dump runs, dog transport, trailer runs etc. Even if it last the 7 years of the warranty i still think it's a good deal
I worked in a dealership I can tell you that is NOT how it normally goes, Nornally its a horrible experience. Yay they bought it back after 3 years because it was full of rust. I MUST GO BY ANOTHER ONE
My G10 rusted, i will never buy a LDV again. brought a Toyota ute (2,8) but its really heavy on fuel and the 6sp auto kicks out of overdrive at the slightest incline, even on a flat road it kicks back on cruise, Toyota won't recognize its a issue, a guy on the Toyota forum has tackled them about said issue.
Sorry to hear about your G10, I have heard lots of similar stories with them. Yeah the big brands want nothing to do with warranty, Mazda was just ordered to refund a bunch of customers also after they were fighting not to.
@@jenifernaidoo7231 @justmikejames 3 months ago All depends what you need the car for I guess. I’m a mechanic and have 4 LDVs, an c63 AMG a Y62 patrol and an Outlander. They all serve a purpose.
My union rep said they bought 4 new LDV's. He said the check engine light comes on, vehicle wont start. Back to the dealer's, still same problems. He said it was a mistake buying these vehicles.
@@Tim12-g7c you'd be working 7 days a wk, no annual/sick leave/crap working conditions, etc.... dick head. Do your research before you open your pie hole.
@@Tim12-g7c you'd be work 7 days a wk, no annual/sick leave, crap working conditions, no rights/protection, etc... Do your homework before you open your pie hole.
@jeeves6490 so unions rather support chinese made cars rather than support manufacturers that made in other countries that closer allies to Australia?
Unfortunately no ldv is going to be worth Jack out of warranty... They will just be a throwaway item like all fridges etc these days...sad. I suppose if you don't give a s*** about that and just want to upgrade your car constantly you could consider one. I brought a 2014 Dmax pre dpf, absolutely weapon towing 2.5 tonne daily work ...18k purchase. In Seven years i bet you mine is still going strong .
Im a truck driver and have seen many car makes and models broken down on the side of roads. Not many Chinese cars. Mostly European, fords and Holden's.
@Design_no wtf has that got to do with the op? The most popular brands by volumes ever sold and still registered are Holdens, Fords, and Toyotas. Any "REAL AUSSIE" would know that. Try harder next time b4 u comment like a tard.
My mate bought a trail-rider new about 5 months ago, touch-wood he hasnt had any major problems. The Hazard lights didnt work from new, And the bolts for the left hand mirror had come loose after about 3 weeks of owning it. Had to pull the internal cover off and tighten them up... Dont know how there stuff passes quality checks.
Yes we are laughing 😂😂. People are not paying twice as much to look cool it's because they don't have the drama your going to have. I'm an electrical fitter with 42 years experience On vehicles so i should know.
2 years ago I bought the missus a brand new g10, thought to myself ah this will be good! A little 2ltr turbo veedub engine lugging this big Chinese van around what could go wrong!? Anyway, it was what she wanted. racked up nearly 50,000ks so far and haven’t had a single issue. I am genuinely very impressed with it so far
Remember the days when you bought lucky packets when you opened it there is lollies and cheap plastic little toys in it….. Chinese vehicles remind me of that .
I purchased one late last September had to wait a couple weeks to get bullbar , toebar, & soft cover for tub etc. Long story short hit a kangaroo on way home from work damage pretty minimal panel beaters still waiting on parts to come 9 months later and of all things a seatbelt is what’s currently holding things up. Has been a great inconvenience for me and my family as me and my finance do shift work and live over 10km out of town.
Very similar to me. I bought a new one in 2022. Hit a huge roo 6 weeks later. One year later still could not get the parts to have it repaired. Turns out they forgot to order the parts the company is so incompetent. Ended up being paid out by insurance after they gave a me a loan car the whole time waiting and buying a Toyota. So many cheap annoying things with the LDV can't even use android auto.
They refund you in full after few yrs and driven 100k plus on it?? Damnn thats pretty good deal as you wont get that from other manufacturers especially jeep 😂
Getting a full refund doesnt make ldv good at all. It shows theyre trying to cover their ass by keeping you quiet. If your car had so much rust it likely they all do. Youre probably the only one who noticed it
Thats because even LDV know these are a piece of shit a ticking time bomb ! Anyone in mechanics knows this they are the biggest grenade on the road , It people like this flog that has destroyed the car industry in Australia !
A fellow I know swears by a particular brand of TV , that has a 12 month warranty. He has bought 3 sets in 3 years , as they always stop working just out of warranty. When I asked why does he do it , he replied that they are "cheaper" than the big brand sets......?
Regarding the plasticky tailgate panel, I’m assuming it is more durable and cheaper to replace than an all metal panel. Think about how many tradie utes do you see with dented tailgates? And they’re not cheap or easily replaced. Plastic insert panel will take a beating, is light weight to remove, post and replace. I think it’s a great addition myself. 🤷♂️
What happens to the LDV that they took back and refunded , Do they sell it as a used car ? Should LDV adjust the refund for inflation to give you the same buying power ? Have you looked on the rego check app to see if the returned vehicle in still current as that might indicate if someone else is driving it now
I brought a 2020 LDV T60 new now done over 90,000 done all regular services, still going strong plenty of room, value for the money, eats fords for breakfast.
This is the challenge, its either an LDV, Cannon or Musso for under 40 or Navara, Ranger, Hilux upto 80k. Find out what works for you and whats important for you- if resale is important or low entry costs.
I would go Musso. SsangYong has been plugging away in the market here for over 20 years and their current utes look pretty good. Don't think it's going to be rusty in three years.
They sell those LDV’s in NZ, ( of course) I can’t drive the LDV 10 seat mini van, because the auto gear box is weird. I had to move one once, and was terrified it might loose control before I could get the hang of it. Another co-worker dented it returning it to shed where it is kept. I’ve never heard a diesel engine sound like that! Have driven several types of Hiace vans over hundreds of thousands of km’s both petrol and diesel types. Had a puncture in one once, but that’s something that can happen. Thrash them and they just get up and keep going. Just service them correctly, and the’ll keep going…and going. For reliability they leave everything else in the dust!
I currently have a 2020 T60 Trailrider 2 & am so over it, I regret buying it. Going through multiple warranty issues with my dealer now, I am hoping for the buyback option.
Rust was a big issue in previous models but ldv are good about it in most ways most of the tech they use is from Audi if ldv can build a ute at that price why can't leading brands do it the tech is cheap now and what I'm saying is when I was in Philippines you could buy a 21 Hilux new in the conquest version for 35 k Australian why does it cost so much for other brands when ldv are smashing the market in price is buy an ldv and trade that fucker in every three years does the same job as other brands
I appreciate the video, I just can’t fathom who’s deluded enough to buy this crap in the first place… I would be less embarrassed driving an automatic, 1986 Mitsubishi Sigma to pick up Scarlett Johansson for a date, than driving an LDV 😂
It’s all good for someone to suggest that you purchase a certain make/ model of vehicle. It’s another thing for you to allow that purchase into your budget. Like Mike said though, depends on what you want to get from the performance of a certain vehicle. Economy, reliability, durability, comfort or affordability 🤷♂️ No simple answers if you’re not in the position to get all the requirements in one vehicle.
I would have no problem buying an LDV, I had one in the 1970's in England, it was brilliant. By the way LDV means Leyland Daf Van/ British Dutch collaboration and later bought out by a Chinese company.
I own an older LDV t60. Nothing wrong with it for 30k. Has a detroit locker stock from factory. Put decent tyres on it and went up around Dargo with it. Can't really fault it for 30k.
I think you nailed it for the price you paid it looks a good option , my concern with the LDV was the 2 litre bi turbo that produces 160kw and 500 Nm of torque.. a big ask from a small engine and some people are also saying the same of the 2 lt bi-turbo Ford Rangers..time will tell If you drive it sensible it should be good but if you push it hard regularly time will tell.
My mate over here in New Zealand had the T60 for about 3 years before trading it for the D90. As far as a vehicle for commuting and hauling your tools ect, it had minimal issues.
G'Day Mike, Yes mate we bought a 2018 LDV T60 second hand 12 months old. We thought we bought a bargain until the rust appeared. We took it back to the dealer and traded it for a Mitsubishi Outlander 2018 but we lost money on the deal. Thanks for your review. Cheers Kev
I’m looking for Utes for work. Would you recommend one model 2021?? Would this be worth it?? I don’t have the cash for a hilux and this Ute is within my budget
Honestly mate, we have 4 of them - if I needed a work Ute and didn’t want to spend 80-90k I would look at the LDV T60 or GWM Cannon. Both have excellent bang for buck.
Ldv and cannon utes very popular with tradies here in Canberra. Seems like you get good quality at a lower price. Most people r waking up realising you don't need to spend 70k - 100k for a dual cab.
I used to work as a delivery driver for a wine company. I desperately tried to get them to get them to switch from the VW Transporter (Not a bad van, but the Bluetooth went on it and it was just getting old) to a Toyota HiAce. Keeping in mind that the idiots who had the final say in the purchases NEVER did deliveries or had experience in the places we delivered to. They got some crappy LDV van (Because it could carry more weight and had dual side doors). What an absolute pile. I used it once and that was it. It had no redeeming qualities. From that point on I swore I'd never get an LDV
Mike You were similar to the other person with the ldv that had the ute parked at the Surfers Paradise surf club and the undercarriage rusted out. Off course not cause you mentioned your from North Qld . Sounds to me Ldv isn't made for coastal areas
People can buy whatever their budget allows and shouldn’t be run down for buying an LDV I bought a second hand 2016 Dmax for about the same price as a new LDV. Had Bullbar light bar uhf etc etc and had done 190 k now up to 290 k no problems. Personally I think this was a better way to go
Some things never change :( no matter what "brand" they are using this year, the Chinese stuff is absolute landfill. 30K seems like a good deal... BUT you could spend 5K on a 30 year old Hilux and it would be a better vehicle ;) I have had far too many customers bring Great Walls and Cherrys etc etc with less than 30,000kms on them and they were already beyond repair :( They are about the only thing on the road that breaks down faster than a Mercedes :D
Thought I do a update on my son's he doesn't have to blow the horn now they want and fixed the problem he now has to push the foot brake to turn it on.
Bought a T60 dual cab manual 4WD Diesel for our emergency services unit back in early 2019.$27000. Been parked outside ever since only 3km from the beach. Had 30 or 40 different drivers over the years. Never missed a beat. No rust. Much better than the junk DMax provided in 2022 by the Government department.
As far as I'm concerned all these are good for is someone that wants to have an entry level 4x4 but still get all the new car experience...basically a try before you buy and commit to the real thing....I practice this when I'm curious or want to see the hype of certain products I buy cheap china product if it does all that I need I payed bugger all for it... if it's a product I like and use and the cheap version doesn't cut the mustard ill go and pay for a better quality version of the same product....china crap is a try before you buy...if that's how you treat it you won't get hurt when things go poopy...basically if I want to try something but don't want to commit paying for quality I'll get Chinese knock off...sometimes I find I don't like it use it or need it it's not a lose....I do have to say that is excellent LDV honouring warranty issue and go as far as buying the vehicle back at same value...now you get 7yrs warranty too, that's pretty confidence inspiring even I would be tempted to dance the risk
I think i did better with my Lada Niva! Took it lots of outback places and 4wd in sand. Wish I'd kept it now. But my nissan pulsa is 24 years old and still going too.
I bought a 2013 Mitsubishi Challenger, it has rust in the chassis, on roof under the rear door, and around the windscreen. It's engine will probably blow a gadget around 200k kms which commonly happens with this model.
If I were to buy a low end economy ute- especially a chinese one- the last thing I'd want are bells and whistles like touchscreens and the car tooting at me because electronic gimmicks will be the first thing to fail, and in a plain workhorse mechanical heater/ac and radio controls are all thats needed. The front looks like a semi copy of a triton, not that it matters.
haha shouldve gotten a hilux mate. Chinese shitboxes have a long way to go before they hit acceptable quality standards like the Koreans did. They made shitboxes till they got it right and make quality vehicles today.
I'd rather spend money on my TD42 duel cab Gq Patrol then buy anything new and I'm a qualified motor mechanic of 28yrs i hate all new vehicles of today.
Even trucks have probably. When I come to think of most most vehicles have probably. My Hilux tray 2019 going like a Hilux & it was second hand & cheaper. . Let see how to go with LVD it should be interesting over time . Good like with it Ed
Check out the story of the guy who's T60 rusted away as he parked to close to the beach and LDV fought him in court.
Probably why LDV didn't fight this guy . Must have been a bit of backlash with that other court case .
Timothy Rigby was his name. Yet the dealer itself was also close to a beach, what a bunch of douchebags they were to take him to court.
John cadogan spoke about this
I have yet to hear John Cadogan describe any vehicle as being anything greater than a "shitbox".
@@Davidcallard😂 100%.
The whole vehicle industry if full of no one's, he knows it all,
even caravan manufacturers know nothing, simply an amazing know it all, do nothing with it.
I'm yet to hear of his manufacturing company though, either car, trailer, caravan or motor home.
That speaks volumes to me, he throws shit around all manufactured vehicles, accessories etc but can't do better himself.
Hmm, sorry, needs to be a bigger Hmmmm.
As a light automotive technician who worked on these pieces of junk for 2 years at the second biggest LDV dealership in Australia, I strongly advise all sane consumers to avoid these unreliable, rusting from day 1 heaps of crap at all costs.
If you can’t afford a new Japanese brand, buy a second hand Toyota Hilux, Isuzu D-Max or maybe a Mitsubishi Triton.
Avoid all other brands unless you have lots of cash.
You have been warned.
Do any of them completely refund your monies when a known issues occurs, hmm, seems not, Toyota dragged through the courts to fix known issues on Prado/Hilux DPF and now in the states apparently over motor issues, at least all vehicles recalled and new motors being fitted, I'd rather a refund myself but that's just me as no vehicle every performs well after technicians have stripped it down and rebuilt it, there always an annoying rattle, stripped threads.
I'm not a LDV fan yet but the way they have looked after this chap us very persuasive.
Another TH-camr who advocates Great Wall is getting exceptional service as well, they replaced his seat base as the squab had deteriorated after 100K.
Suspect his TH-cam status helped, GWM rather appease than have his followers upset.
Any other manufacturers would claim wear & tear, but not GWM.
Chinese brands appear to know how to win over influences and hence sales come of it.
LESS DESIRABLE VEHICLE
GOOK WALL & SANG MONG - should be avoided at ALL costs!
Sounds like they would last one winter in Canadian provinces that use road salt. Where do they rot out exactly?
i agree , good advice
@@aidenschvatkok5732 rust on chassis, rust on panels, certain places there is a bar on the rear tray and you remove it and underneath isn’t painted and rust starts.
3rd LDV , really, some people just don't learn.
Hahah that's what I was thinking why are you going back to give them your money again the quality just isn't there!
Yeah.. should've run a mile after the rust debacle
The stinginess outweighs the risks for some
This guy lives in Nth. Queensland, that should tell you everything you need to know.
@@brucet6463 maybe they have.
I don’t know why people do this to themselves. They are cheap yes but they are also junk. A poor man pays twice!
Leyland DAV vehicles 😂
3 times it's his 3rd one apparently 😮
I would rather use public transport than own a LDV
it is quite popular now so joke on you
@@jeremylim5689joke is on the muppet’s that buy them
Really!
@@jeremylim5689 idiots are also quite a high percentage in a aus. almost like a
coincidence
That's prove you are not a vise person!
That's insane! My 2011 hilux has 430,000kms. All I've done is brake pads, tyres and shocks. I'm a farmer, so it has a pretty hard life. It would still sell for half the retail of the LDV. Sorry, I just think it's false economics. My father's 95 hilux has just gone over 600,000!
There's something to be said about reliability on Toyotas. I had an '86 Corona with over 600k km on it. The AC still worked perfectly on a Brisbane summer day. Chatting to a guy about newer Toyotas. He told me his Camry had nothing but normal services since new. He then invited me to read the odometer -836,000km (523,000 miles).
Most of your money still went to Japland, we fought them in ww2. You just a pawn for a corrupt government.
The older Toyota's are bulletproof but unfortunately the modern latest models are garbage and don't hold same durability they once prided themselves with.
@@EdmundSampson-pd7vi We're looking at getting a Lexus NX, and would be curious to know how reliable they are compared to older Toyotas. Not that we do many KMs with semi retirement but breaking down in just a real pain. We've got a 2011 Toyota Kluger with 172,000km on it that finally broke down the other day. Rats got in and chewed some wires. Easy fix though.
@@doncoleman4938 The problem when buying a new,new car there's no way of knowing what future bugs and defects it will present with regular wear and tear miles ect, especially with all the tech new cars have.personally I think buying a new car is pretty crazy. Atleast with a car that's 3 to 5 years old it's pretty easy to research and get an idea of how reliable and what issues they have had so far and it still has the feel of a new car.
People need to understand that China manufactures down to a price not up to a standard. They’re exceptionally good at making “stuff” that looks great and is cheap, but not reliable.
30g for a cheap piece crap
Your device you used for this comment is Chinese 😂
@MrWerd910 they build there phones better then there cars. 🤔
Correct
Not safe either.
The reason LDV came good with the rust is they have already been taken to court and lost. You have a slam dunk they can't fight!
Yeah my local dealer is doing 20+ buybacks per month....must be alot nationwide. The importer of LDV imports a stack of brands...worthwhile researching
In the case of the queensland chap. He had bought the extra corrosion protection. Although ldv seem to be honouring most warranty. Im not sure if the rust warranty was more than 5 years in New Zealand.
@@neilrissmandid you miss the memo on the QLD high court ruling on LDV?
@justmikejames 20+ buybacks a month and you're still buying their shit 😂
The reason you have no trouble with LDV is because they’ve already lost a court case in Queensland over exactly the same issue of rust.
Now that a ruling has been made it’s easy to get refunds.
The guy who took them to court got shafted by LDV for months.
100% LDV dragged that owner thru the courts and were forced to refund that buyer!!
@@rickb314 they sure did.
This channel suggests LDV have great customer service.
Go ask that guy how his customer service experience was 🤣
Chinese junk, I have gone through two Hoover Vacuum cleaners, both the maximum times used 20 if lucky, the motors burn out, when Hoover manufactured in Australia the used to last 15 years, I'm 75 and not lieing.
Lol I thought they where made in Indian
I still have the older lay down unit of my mums, weighs a ton but it still works. Mum didn’t like the weight of it though🤭 i had assumed from the onset these cheap 4wd would be rubbish.
Learn to spell
My 8 year old Hoover cost $900 and still runs perfectly.
@@DarrenBoxhall That is one expensive vacuum cleaner, now I will be buying $50 machines, faulty or need repairs , into the trash, no more being ripped of by Chinese junk.
I don't wish to donate any money to the CCP.
Xi Jinping will be the next ruler of Australia after the US is defeated in Taiwan, they will send 2 million paratroopers to secure Perth and Sydney
You do. A lot.. every day 👍
Bought a used 10 year old hilux diesel 2wd for $9500 five years ago. It's now worth about $15,000. I have put another 160,000km on it with zero problems. It goes 700km on 60 litres of fuel regardless of how you drive it. Plenty of power, comfort, with Toyota build quality. What's not to like? Why would anyone buy Chinese?
The smash repairs that my wife worked for, had a contract with the local Chinese vehicle dealer. As soon as the vehicles came off the ship, they went straight to the smash repairer to have the rust cut out and the panels refitted as they couldn't even handle the journey to be delivered.
Which brand is that?
I drove one last week with 30,000 k’s on it and it also had the engine warning light on, and it had a perfect service history.
Hi there Mike. I’ve had an absolute nightmare with my LDV T60. it’s a 2022 model model. I’ve had everything from my alternator going six months ago with my car being off the road for 6 to 8 weeks due to not having any spare alternators in the country so luckily I was able to get a higher vehicle, three months to buy my vehicle my drivers seat started fraying and LDV told me it’s normal wear and tear which I fought and they eventually replaced the upholstery months later. It’s fraying again! I bought a manual and my clutch has been nothing but a nightmare with an independent mechanic telling me that there is definitely something wrong with it and the release point was way too low. I mentioned this to LDV who inspected it and said it was normal. The clutches becomes so bad now that I sometimes can’t even get it into reverse or other gears. You pay $45,000 for a new vehicle. You expect a lot more customer service has been pathetic at both dealerships that I’ve taken it to my door handles which are the chrome doorhandles are now flaking and my event control mechanism just fell out. On top of all of that looking under my vehicle, I’ve just noticed rust which brought me to your video. it’s been an emotional rollercoaster over the past two years and almost had me giving up. I appreciate your video and any advice for me would be helpful thank you Chris.
How much higher
@@nicolaasvanderboon572don’t be a smart arse.
& now after years of complaining there’s an issue with my clutch. The issue has becoming incredibly worse with now not being able to get into certain gears being a manual car. Took to LDV dealership, LDV Australia gave me a loan car, and had a phone call from LDV dealership to say LDV Australia want them to open up the gearbox but it will cost me $630!! This I’ll get back if the issue is warrantable. a day later I get a call from the dealership saying the issue after inspection and speaking with LDV warranty team Australia have come to the conclusion that it is wearing and tear and to get it fixed will cost me $5500!! DO NOT BUY AN LDV T60 Ute!! I am now going to VCAT
Let's face it. All dual cab utes suck. The Cab is too big and the trays too small. I'm keeping my xr6 ute forever!. A propper AUSSIE Ute! Yessss!
I'm keeping my holden ute
thing is you can only fit 0.5 in a xr6 , and cant tow the full 3.5t most tradies would need like excavators etc. If you do work you need a truck, iv got Isuzu 450 tipper tuned, it beats diesel dual cabs off the lights while carrying 4t in the tray and towing a 3t excavator, Plus with the height and wheel size can drive straight up kerbs and park wherever you need. Uses less fuel than a ranger too. a trip that cost 900 diesel in my ranger cost 600 in the truck fully loaded, and felt like i was driving my lounge room around , so comfy
@@sonofdati agree, i run a truck daily and i cant even tell when iv got a 3.5 trailer on plus can put 4.5 in the tray, but most dual cabs are rated to tow 3.5 and can handle it allot better than a falcon ute. Falcon ute would be dead in 2 months but a diesel dual cab would do it for years still
@oudonbail I never said anything about trying to tow 3.5 tonnes with my falcon ute. You said that!And dont need too. I don't understand your comparison. I still think dual cab utes suck and I'm still keeping my xr6 ute.
@sonofdat I'm lost, what is your point ? BTW I'm not hating your ute, iv got a old xf I'm getting ready to rebuild and hoping to find your type of motor to fit in it
I'd rather drive a 1980's Australian car without the technology to spy on me.
Yup
Ya but gladly keep using Facebook and Google 😂
Let's face it, Aussie cars were crap. People just trying to remember the good ol days but they weren't actually good! Japanese cars kill everything else.
@@tezza737373 I'd still rather drive an 80's Japanese car then
Unsure what part makes you an idiot...for buying one LDV or 3?
You get what you pay for! My Hiace, 8yo , 252k no rust , no defects, leaks, rattles , squeaks.
Toyota reliability
Most of the time you do , I have a 34 year old Lexus , there’s still no rust to be seen of any consequence, , although the motor is getting a bit tappetty , no complaints for its age though , also have a 7 year old Camry , had to replace the battery on it last year , other than that , it has not seen a spanner put on it for anything but it’s basic yearly service , air con still blows cold , everything still works like the day it came out of the factory.
If I had to replace a 3 year old car for rust reasons , that would be the first and last time I would be buying from that manufacturer.
As for paying extra for a car to look cool , I think this bloke misjudges the majority of Australians.
Hiaces are shitboxes.
My son has a Hi Ace which has just hit 300 km and can't believe how it still drives so well , and is still so rust free from not being garaged .
@@petercraig806
I have driven rental camper van HiAces with 700k kms on the clock.
So worn out that the whole windscreen wiper rack needs replacing.
So old that the light control stick blows and only high beam flash works.
So old that you feel like you are settling into an old sock when you climb behind the wheel.
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But they still complete the 1100km straight drive between where they were dropped off and where they need to be relocated to for the next clients...
just by putting in fuel.
Comfortable?
On 60psi LingLong radials.....yeah, nah.
Mitsi triton GLX-R 2011 cost me $19k .. had 124k's when I bought her in 2018 now got 209k's .. bought from 1st and only 1 owner with all paperwork of upgrades and services never missed a beat been on plenty bush n beach bbq's 100% satisfaction ..
people don't care about quality, they only care about one thing, and that's price. Simple. You get what you pay for.
For roughly the same $ give me the Musso any day of the week LDV is the bottom of the barrel in the Ute department
If Kmart sold utes, they'd be LDVs .
@@doncoleman4938i hear kmart are bringing out an Anko ute
@@doncoleman4938 100%
I saw a muso on stradbroke beach
Bogged to the arse it spun 1 wheel
Not bad for a 4wd and it was even hard to snatch out
Junk
The fellas missus was goin ballistic
We helped em though
With dirty patrol sort of power
We got em out
And said get back on tar
Sang mong - the one manufacturer on par or worse than gook wall / Less Desirable vehicles
I bought the D90 and had it for 18 months or so now. No issues at all, reliable so far. Have another 5.5 years of full warranty so if anything goes wrong we're sorted. Happy so far!
and it will be worth nothing in 5.5 years, do the math they are not cheap
@@MikeBowles-w8u I'm not selling it, I'll run it into the ground. It'll be used for dump runs, dog transport, trailer runs etc. Even if it last the 7 years of the warranty i still think it's a good deal
Good on you! Just goes to show how ignorant some of us are!
I worked in a dealership I can tell you that is NOT how it normally goes, Nornally its a horrible experience. Yay they bought it back after 3 years because it was full of rust. I MUST GO BY ANOTHER ONE
My G10 rusted, i will never buy a LDV again. brought a Toyota ute (2,8) but its really heavy on fuel and the 6sp auto kicks out of overdrive at the slightest incline, even on a flat road it kicks back on cruise, Toyota won't recognize its a issue, a guy on the Toyota forum has tackled them about said issue.
Sorry to hear about your G10, I have heard lots of similar stories with them. Yeah the big brands want nothing to do with warranty, Mazda was just ordered to refund a bunch of customers also after they were fighting not to.
Guess you will never be buying a Toyota again then right...
@@jenifernaidoo7231
@justmikejames
3 months ago
All depends what you need the car for I guess. I’m a mechanic and have 4 LDVs, an c63 AMG a Y62 patrol and an Outlander. They all serve a purpose.
@@JohnSmith-pl2bk 4 LDVS and an AMG > Lucky you work in the trade :)
@@petercraig806
I wish!
The person who has these is another commenter whose answer I pasted for our edification and delight...
My union rep said they bought 4 new LDV's. He said the check engine light comes on, vehicle wont start. Back to the dealer's, still same problems. He said it was a mistake buying these vehicles.
Nice to see Unions supporting local manufacturing 😂
@@Tim12-g7c you'd be working 7 days a wk, no annual/sick leave/crap working conditions, etc.... dick head. Do your research before you open your pie hole.
@@Tim12-g7c you'd be work 7 days a wk, no annual/sick leave, crap working conditions, no rights/protection, etc... Do your homework before you open your pie hole.
@@Tim12-g7c Name a vehicle they can buy made locally.
@jeeves6490 so unions rather support chinese made cars rather than support manufacturers that made in other countries that closer allies to Australia?
Unfortunately no ldv is going to be worth Jack out of warranty... They will just be a throwaway item like all fridges etc these days...sad.
I suppose if you don't give a s*** about that and just want to upgrade your car constantly you could consider one.
I brought a 2014 Dmax pre dpf, absolutely weapon towing 2.5 tonne daily work ...18k purchase.
In Seven years i bet you mine is still going strong .
you obviously don't know how it works with business use. he probably drive it for 2 years and get the new one. its a tax write-off.
Im a truck driver and have seen many car makes and models broken down on the side of roads. Not many Chinese cars. Mostly European, fords and Holden's.
Because they are the majority sold genius.
Real Holden's and fords haven't been sold for years. They are now all getting on in years.
@Design_no wtf has that got to do with the op? The most popular brands by volumes ever sold and still registered are Holdens, Fords, and Toyotas. Any "REAL AUSSIE" would know that. Try harder next time b4 u comment like a tard.
I'm sure china will happily have you mate..move there
@@nathanr9886 what a stupid comment obviously from a a person with no intellectual skills
My mate bought a trail-rider new about 5 months ago, touch-wood he hasnt had any major problems. The Hazard lights didnt work from new, And the bolts for the left hand mirror had come loose after about 3 weeks of owning it. Had to pull the internal cover off and tighten them up... Dont know how there stuff passes quality checks.
"Quality checks"???, it's Chinese, they don't know what a quality check is.
Yes we are laughing 😂😂. People are not paying twice as much to look cool it's because they don't have the drama your going to have. I'm an electrical fitter with 42 years experience
On vehicles so i should know.
2 years ago I bought the missus a brand new g10, thought to myself ah this will be good! A little 2ltr turbo veedub engine lugging this big Chinese van around what could go wrong!? Anyway, it was what she wanted. racked up nearly 50,000ks so far and haven’t had a single issue. I am genuinely very impressed with it so far
Remember the days when you bought lucky packets when you opened it there is lollies and cheap plastic little toys in it….. Chinese vehicles remind me of that .
I purchased one late last September had to wait a couple weeks to get bullbar , toebar, & soft cover for tub etc. Long story short hit a kangaroo on way home from work damage pretty minimal panel beaters still waiting on parts to come 9 months later and of all things a seatbelt is what’s currently holding things up. Has been a great inconvenience for me and my family as me and my finance do shift work and live over 10km out of town.
Very similar to me. I bought a new one in 2022. Hit a huge roo 6 weeks later. One year later still could not get the parts to have it repaired. Turns out they forgot to order the parts the company is so incompetent. Ended up being paid out by insurance after they gave a me a loan car the whole time waiting and buying a Toyota. So many cheap annoying things with the LDV can't even use android auto.
They refund you in full after few yrs and driven 100k plus on it?? Damnn thats pretty good deal as you wont get that from other manufacturers especially jeep 😂
Yeah mate full refund, didn’t have to ask they just offered it up front. Never ever heard a manufacturer to do anything like that.
Getting a full refund doesnt make ldv good at all. It shows theyre trying to cover their ass by keeping you quiet. If your car had so much rust it likely they all do. Youre probably the only one who noticed it
There was a Court case in Queensland that LDV importers lost.
They HAD to buy them all back!
Thats because even LDV know these are a piece of shit a ticking time bomb !
Anyone in mechanics knows this they are the biggest grenade on the road , It people like this flog that has destroyed the car industry in Australia !
You wouldn't have the same body or mechanical issues with the Japanese utes.
I just bought a used ldv 2020 trailrider 2 t60 only 65000ks on it and love every bit of it so far amd its diesel
@@CR-mn4mc what’s worse than buying one of these shit boxes new is someone deranged enough to think they got a good deal on a second hand one 😂
@@Perfect2ATee dont worry i took peoples advice and sold it 1 week later lol and now i have a navara 4xpro
Rigby vs LDV in 2021 QCAT. Brilliant integrity and customer support.
I'M starting to look down this path ATM as a 300 GXL cruiser is 127K in Australia f----------g ridiculous!
Somehow 100k is the average now, and everyone seems ok with it. Insane cash
Its like the Ozito of Cars, cheap , nasty but has a good warranty and return policy
nothing wrong with ozito mate they don the job for the home handiman lol
You had one that crapped out in 3 years, then got another one?
A fellow I know swears by a particular brand of TV , that has a 12 month warranty. He has bought 3 sets in 3 years , as they always stop working just out of warranty. When I asked why does he do it , he replied that they are "cheaper" than the big brand sets......?
Regarding the plasticky tailgate panel, I’m assuming it is more durable and cheaper to replace than an all metal panel. Think about how many tradie utes do you see with dented tailgates?
And they’re not cheap or easily replaced.
Plastic insert panel will take a beating, is light weight to remove, post and replace. I think it’s a great addition myself. 🤷♂️
As long as it's also cheap and available in 10 year's time....
What happens to the LDV that they took back and refunded , Do they sell it as a used car ? Should LDV adjust the refund for inflation to give you the same buying power ? Have you looked on the rego check app to see if the returned vehicle in still current as that might indicate if someone else is driving it now
I brought my Ranger new in 2015 and it hasn’t missed a beat.
I brought a 2020 LDV T60 new now done over 90,000 done all regular services, still going strong plenty of room, value for the money, eats fords for breakfast.
Thanks for the information, important in this information age that people share knowledge
I use Tyre shine on the outta plastics brings them up like new no fade
Do you also take people to the mangroves? I'm interested haha
Should i buy a cannon or a musso for 34k ? Or the new triton for 47k i dont do off roads
This is the challenge, its either an LDV, Cannon or Musso for under 40 or Navara, Ranger, Hilux upto 80k. Find out what works for you and whats important for you- if resale is important or low entry costs.
@@neilrissman low entry as I just want a 4x2
As long as it lasts 7 years
Musso isn't Chinese so that's a good start
I would go Musso. SsangYong has been plugging away in the market here for over 20 years and their current utes look pretty good. Don't think it's going to be rusty in three years.
3 months later , how the car is holding up ? i keep hearing horror story about LDV and LDV support , what is your experince so far?
The Chinese communist party thanks you for your purchase.
They sell those LDV’s in NZ, ( of course) I can’t drive the LDV 10 seat mini van, because the auto gear box is weird. I had to move one once, and was terrified it might loose control before I could get the hang of it. Another co-worker dented it returning it to shed where it is kept. I’ve never heard a diesel engine sound like that!
Have driven several types of Hiace vans over hundreds of thousands of km’s both petrol and diesel types. Had a puncture in one once, but that’s something that can happen. Thrash them and they just get up and keep going. Just service them correctly, and the’ll keep going…and going. For reliability they leave everything else in the dust!
Two sayings come to mind, you get what you pay for and the poor man pays twice
I currently have a 2020 T60 Trailrider 2 & am so over it, I regret buying it. Going through multiple warranty issues with my dealer now, I am hoping for the buyback option.
Rust was a big issue in previous models but ldv are good about it in most ways most of the tech they use is from Audi if ldv can build a ute at that price why can't leading brands do it the tech is cheap now and what I'm saying is when I was in Philippines you could buy a 21 Hilux new in the conquest version for 35 k Australian why does it cost so much for other brands when ldv are smashing the market in price is buy an ldv and trade that fucker in every three years does the same job as other brands
Exactly right ldv, cannon do the same job at a lower price. No need to spend 70k or more on a ute that's gonna get treated rough.
Mahindra people. The engine is bulletproof, great milage and cheap. You buy Chinese and you buy crap.
I appreciate the video, I just can’t fathom who’s deluded enough to buy this crap in the first place…
I would be less embarrassed driving an automatic, 1986 Mitsubishi Sigma to pick up Scarlett Johansson for a date, than driving an LDV 😂
I was thinking of buying a second hand car and asked my mechanic he said buy a Toyota
All depends what you need the car for I guess. I’m a mechanic and have 4 LDVs, an c63 AMG a Y62 patrol and an Outlander. They all serve a purpose.
Or a Mitsubishi, NEVER an LDV.
It’s all good for someone to suggest that you purchase a certain make/ model of vehicle. It’s another thing for you to allow that purchase into your budget.
Like Mike said though, depends on what you want to get from the performance of a certain vehicle. Economy, reliability, durability, comfort or affordability 🤷♂️
No simple answers if you’re not in the position to get all the requirements in one vehicle.
The first day you bought it the engine light came on, and you kept it?
I like to live on the edge
Guy At work has a dmax 1.5 cab ute. First mechanical issue at 360k kms, needed new alternator...
Very informative & good review. Real world 🤘
I've had my LDV T60 for 3 years and i love it. Never let me down great Ute.
Ok Xi lol
I would have no problem buying an LDV, I had one in the 1970's in England, it was brilliant. By the way LDV means Leyland Daf Van/ British Dutch collaboration and later bought out by a Chinese company.
I own an older LDV t60. Nothing wrong with it for 30k. Has a detroit locker stock from factory. Put decent tyres on it and went up around Dargo with it. Can't really fault it for 30k.
The plastic on the tailgate is your only concern?
I think you nailed it for the price you paid it looks a good option , my concern with the LDV was the 2 litre bi turbo that produces 160kw and 500 Nm of torque.. a big ask from a small engine and some people are also saying the same of the 2 lt bi-turbo Ford Rangers..time will tell If you drive it sensible it should be good but if you push it hard regularly time will tell.
My mate over here in New Zealand had the T60 for about 3 years before trading it for the D90. As far as a vehicle for commuting and hauling your tools ect, it had minimal issues.
G'Day Mike, Yes mate we bought a 2018 LDV T60 second hand 12 months old. We thought we bought a bargain until the rust appeared. We took it back to the dealer and traded it
for a Mitsubishi Outlander 2018 but we lost money on the deal. Thanks for your review. Cheers Kev
I’m looking for Utes for work. Would you recommend one model 2021?? Would this be worth it?? I don’t have the cash for a hilux and this Ute is within my budget
Honestly mate, we have 4 of them - if I needed a work Ute and didn’t want to spend 80-90k I would look at the LDV T60 or GWM Cannon. Both have excellent bang for buck.
@@neilrissman thanks heaps! And with your video explaining it puts my mind at ease for sure
Glad to help mate
Buy a BA / BF falcon. 10k and spend 2 on it giving it a thorough service and clean - and it will last you for many years.
Ldv and cannon utes very popular with tradies here in Canberra. Seems like you get good quality at a lower price. Most people r waking up realising you don't need to spend 70k - 100k for a dual cab.
I used to work as a delivery driver for a wine company. I desperately tried to get them to get them to switch from the VW Transporter (Not a bad van, but the Bluetooth went on it and it was just getting old) to a Toyota HiAce. Keeping in mind that the idiots who had the final say in the purchases NEVER did deliveries or had experience in the places we delivered to. They got some crappy LDV van (Because it could carry more weight and had dual side doors). What an absolute pile. I used it once and that was it. It had no redeeming qualities. From that point on I swore I'd never get an LDV
The tailgate garnish is so people dont dent the tailgate when they inevitably open it with a trailer on..
Not surprised, a friend got one that’s been noting but a TDV workshop frequent flyer since its day of delivery. Seen toasters with better capacity
Look forward to the 10000k vid. I suspect you'll be rolling up with just a single remaining wheel. It's totally worth the 30k, I'm sure.
Seems reasonable for $30 grand I guess if thing go wrong it has warranty under Australian Consumer Law.
Mike You were similar to the other person with the ldv that had the ute parked at the Surfers Paradise surf club and the undercarriage rusted out. Off course not cause you mentioned your from North Qld . Sounds to me Ldv isn't made for coastal areas
People can buy whatever their budget allows and shouldn’t be run down for buying an LDV
I bought a second hand 2016 Dmax for about the same price as a new LDV. Had Bullbar light bar uhf etc etc and had done 190 k now up to 290 k no problems. Personally I think this was a better way to go
Some things never change :( no matter what "brand" they are using this year, the Chinese stuff is absolute landfill. 30K seems like a good deal... BUT you could spend 5K on a 30 year old Hilux and it would be a better vehicle ;) I have had far too many customers bring Great Walls and Cherrys etc etc with less than 30,000kms on them and they were already beyond repair :( They are about the only thing on the road that breaks down faster than a Mercedes :D
Friend of mine swapped from ldv to Great wall Great car no issues
@@Karl-Benny GWM is slightly better
What sort of beyond repair problems did they have , and what was the solution ?
Thought I do a update on my son's he doesn't have to blow the horn now they want and fixed the problem he now has to push the foot brake to turn it on.
Cant argue with your thumbnail mate.
😂😂 love this comment
Bought a T60 dual cab manual 4WD Diesel for our emergency services unit back in early 2019.$27000. Been parked outside ever since only 3km from the beach. Had 30 or 40 different drivers over the years. Never missed a beat. No rust. Much better than the junk DMax provided in 2022 by the Government department.
Hard to believe, Everyone inthe comment dispise Chinese make. But i wonder why they don't complain about Iphone. Its Chinese though 😂😂😂
As far as I'm concerned all these are good for is someone that wants to have an entry level 4x4 but still get all the new car experience...basically a try before you buy and commit to the real thing....I practice this when I'm curious or want to see the hype of certain products I buy cheap china product if it does all that I need I payed bugger all for it... if it's a product I like and use and the cheap version doesn't cut the mustard ill go and pay for a better quality version of the same product....china crap is a try before you buy...if that's how you treat it you won't get hurt when things go poopy...basically if I want to try something but don't want to commit paying for quality I'll get Chinese knock off...sometimes I find I don't like it use it or need it it's not a lose....I do have to say that is excellent LDV honouring warranty issue and go as far as buying the vehicle back at same value...now you get 7yrs warranty too, that's pretty confidence inspiring even I would be tempted to dance the risk
I think i did better with my Lada Niva! Took it lots of outback places and 4wd in sand. Wish I'd kept it now. But my nissan pulsa is 24 years old and still going too.
I see lots of these in Bundaberg QLD along with many Haval and Rams
I bought a 2013 Mitsubishi Challenger, it has rust in the chassis, on roof under the rear door, and around the windscreen. It's engine will probably blow a gadget around 200k kms which commonly happens with this model.
I'm still driving my 24 year old hilux every day cruising like its new.
I’ll never ride in any ccp Chinese owned/ branded vehicle.
Dont worry about the trim cladding fading 😂 that thing will be coke cans within 5 years if its lucky to even get that far
They have that NQR vibe down pat!
Never touch a Ford Ranger they are the worst vehicles you can purchase ❤❤❤
Stay away from Ford
If I were to buy a low end economy ute- especially a chinese one- the last thing I'd want are bells and whistles like touchscreens and the car tooting at me because electronic gimmicks will be the first thing to fail, and in a plain workhorse mechanical heater/ac and radio controls are all thats needed. The front looks like a semi copy of a triton, not that it matters.
Had my t60 for 3 years, no problems really... the radio starts at volume 10 which some people find annoying.. if your worried about rust try fish oil
I bought a Hilux RuggedX, after 2 years, traded in on a new Kluger
Got $50 less than I paid for it 😊
My mate had to engine replaced on the ldv van with less 40,000km on it, serviced on time. I would say stay away from LDV
IS LDV MAXUS? are they the same? Where I live in South America We have MAXUS and has the same emblem on the front ?
Yes, they are the same - both made by SAIC motors.
how is the availability of the parts?
I have heard some parts are an issue, but I’m sure it will get better over time
haha shouldve gotten a hilux mate. Chinese shitboxes have a long way to go before they hit acceptable quality standards like the Koreans did. They made shitboxes till they got it right and make quality vehicles today.
Maximum 4000 rpm ?
I'd rather spend money on my TD42 duel cab Gq Patrol then buy anything new and I'm a qualified motor mechanic of 28yrs i hate all new vehicles of today.
I need a van , Chinese van r cheap like V80 or G10 , what do you think the French van ? Thx u
Black plastic profiles are much easier and cheaper to manufacture, and they make 'styling' changes to ageing body styles easier and cheaper.
Even trucks have probably. When I come to think of most most vehicles have probably. My Hilux tray 2019 going like a Hilux & it was second hand & cheaper. . Let see how to go with LVD it should be interesting over time . Good like with it Ed
Dude, it’s a nice looking Ute 😊
You'd never have to battle Hyundai, Kia or Toyota because it would NEVER HAPPEN !! 😂 LOL
Only an idiot would own a Hyundai or Kia as well.