Budget flat protection in MTB tires using foam pipe insulation and sealant in the tubes.
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- This video will show how I installed 1 inch foam pipe insulation into my 27.5 inch 2.8 MTB tire to help prevent flats. I also show how you can inject sealant into your tubes.
Located at Home Depot or homedepot.com
Everbilt 1in x 6ft foam pipe insulation - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
For those who live in snow country it helps prevent your home piping from freezing and bursting. For those who ride your bikes in the snow this helps prevent your tubes freezing and bursting.
Water expands just as it freezes. Air expands as it heats up. Whatever water molecules form enough to freeze in an inflated tire tube probably won't even be enough to have any noticeable effect. This is also one of the reasons to check your car tires often, which is a PITA when the ambient temperature changes a lot over a few days unless you have an automatic tire pressure maintenance system on it.
love this "hack" - awesome idea and at only .1 lbs per "insert" this seems like a great way to create a near bulletproof tire! Great idea filling the sealant with the valve at 9'oclock to prevent overflowing!
Thank you Matt! You seem like a nice guy.
Do I need cut the foam center to fit tire
I found when using wider tires, 2.125 and such you can take an 1.75 and just cut the bead off, tuck it into your tire then your partially inflated tube into the smaller tire mount on rim and slowly inflate while checking for uneven rim set. Plus always check for lose spokes that under mind the best tire armor by poking your tube from the back side and not even slime stops the leak. So while you are doing your tire armor tape the devil out of the rims as well.
Your work bench looks great!
Thank you!
This hack helps me every day on the track 📈❤❤ thanks
I use a plastic anti puncture strip then a pice of pipe insulation cut in half lengthways then the tube. Works great.
That’s a great idea! Thanks
Thank you.
Just subscribed and liked.
I bought a closed core foam rubber pipe insulation in 3/4 inch because mine is a 27.5 2.2 inch tire and not as big as yours but even 3/4 was too much mass to fit in the tire and add the tube and tuck the tire into the rim. I went back and exchanged it for 1/2 inch which I think is the smallest and everything fit but as I tucked it in it tucked in 3/4 the way in but as I got closer to closing the whole rim and tire it just wouldn't close or fit.
I guess I could have cut some of the edge off length wise and maybe make it smaller and it may fit but I was at Home Depot and saw some PVC material that is in sheet form for shower or bathtub liner stuff, I don't know for sure because I am not a carpenter but it looked tough so I bought 1 foot but the guy gave me about 2 feet because it the last of the roll. It's 5 foot long then you pay for the width you want. So I bring it home and cut it about 2 inches wide for the length of it. Not long enough for the tire so I have to cut another strip to cover the difference of what it isn't covering. I bought double sided Gorilla tape but it's pretty thick. Thought I could secure the PVC sheet to the tire but the double sided tape won't adhere to the tires. So I just placed the sheeting without adhesive hoping I could put the tire in without it slipping and moving around. I think I got it. It slid a bit but as I seated the tire to the edge of the rim if I saw that the sheeting was hanging over the side of the tube I placed it back to the right place on top the tube where the top of the tube meets the top of the tire. I hope it all stayed in place like I think it did.
The theory is that this stuff is really tough and if it rest between the tire and the tube and a nail or thorn goes into the tire it should prevent a puncture of the tire. I would be feel better if I had been able to use adhesive to bind the PVC sheet to the tire but I am hoping the pressure of the pumped up tube will keep it in place up against the tire. This might work. I didn't use Stans but let's see.
It's this stuff. This is per the package in this link but they sell by the feet off a roll too. I paid $8 something for the foot, but like I say it was the end of the roll the guy gave me the remaining two feet for one foot of charge. Good guy.
www.homedepot.com/p/OATEY-6-ft-x-10-ft-Gray-PVC-Shower-Pan-Liner-41645/308374264
Great video. I'm praying that I can get something done to avoid more punctures on my Alpine Explorer Electric Trike from Alpine Bikes, here in The U.K. I have only had for 2 weeks and already have had 3 punctures.
Thank you! Hopefully it helps you.
Stans
it really helps?im sick of punctures! 26 wheels!
Great video! I'm considering trying this out before going tubless. How has this "hack" held up for you over the past 6 months? Notice any less flats, if any at all, and are there any major differences in how the tires feel when riding compared to just having tubes? Last question, does this bulge the sidewall of the tire out an more than if you were to just have tubes? I want to run 2.6 inch tires on my mountain bike but I know I won't have a ton of room to play with after going up to that size so I'm just slightly concerned if the foam tube will make the tire any wider compared to just using tubes. Thank you!
Thanks! I haven’t had a flat since the hack( knock on wood). The tires don’t feel any different and no they don’t bulge out at all. Thanks for watching! Stay safe!
@@kidbaseball4 Great to hear thank you!
What about the psi? Can the tube still be inflated to normal or much less now?
Pool noodle works as well and it is thicker.
Sir, I love your channel. I have learned so much from you.
Could you do a video on tire size based on rim width? I ask because I have a 21 mm rim inner width and my bike came with 2.2 inch width tires. I learned that the bike tires have some numbers on it that you can multiply by .4 to fine the rim size width the tire can fit. I read if you put tires wider than you should on your rim you can have so many problems. Before I knew tech stuff about bikes, I had bought a Maxxis Hookworm which is a 29 x 2.5. I had put this on a 29er I had at the time and the rim was actually narrow. 20.5 internal width. I am sure that the rim is thinner than you should put a 2.5 tire on but I had no idea about this stuff then. With that said I had no problems whatsoever. This was perfectly fine even tho the rim is much narrower than recommended for such a wide tire.
Thanks! I’ll see about making the video. I installed 2.8’s on a bike that came with 1.9’s. No problems whatsoever. If it fits and clears the frame I ride it. It’s all up to you. Stay safe!
Wow just good but I tried it and I left the tube out and it worked just as well
Brilliant!!
I can understand a nail or glass going through a tire but a torn have they not advanced the tire beyond been punctured by a torn iv had it happen 15 times in one year so I'm definitely going to try this
No, they have not. The next flat I change with a thorn I’ll make a vid and post it. Thanks for watching!
Clever boy Roy 👏
Thank you
My experience riding a bike as a kid years ago is when a tire is new they don't get puncherd easily but after about a year you get a flat the least little thing. Right now I have a electric trike and I ride through just about anything and never get a flat. But I only had it for a little over three months. I have no doubt it will be a different story in another 6 months to a year. Unless I buy new tires every year. 😊
The reason for that in MHO it’s caused by the friction inside of the tire. Each time the tire and tube heat up from riding it breaks down the rubber. Flats are inevitable. To prevent them is not likely. But if you get lucky you’re ahead of the game. The only thing you could do is take preventative measures (tire liners) and you don’t know for sure if you avoided a flat. But when you get a flat you sure know you got one. Stay safe and thanks for sharing!
Look up Tannus liners
Curious, have you taken it out to see if the insulation has just compressed to a thin amount? Also, have you noticed any additional friction between the ground and tire at all? As I presume if the tire is at all made wider, that there will be more tread in contact with the ground.
Yes, It has compressed now it will a acting like a tire insert. I did notice more contact patch but I think it’s because of the wider tire. Hope that helps.
@@kidbaseball4 thanks for the reply. Ive tried similar home items over the years. Which I also found they'd tend to cause more tread to contact the ground, where on a road tire it could be as much as three times the contact areas. Making noticible friction drag and harder if not impossible to coast. As a kid, we would place just the tread area of an old tire inside, which worked well. Though I am yet to try that to see if the drag effect is also an issue as I don't want to cut up good tires. I recently tried some strips of industrial carpet tiles which were backed with 5mm of rubber. Not only was the drag there, but I could feel the joins as I rode as the tires tread areas are so thin these days. There are some tires on the market with Kevlar and a 15mm tread area lining. These are something I plan to test later when I'm due for tire replacement. As they're about $85 a tire.
@@johndee68 I was going to try an ice and water shield peel and stick from the roofing section. I’m going to run these for now. The old tire tread is a good idea. If you stumble across anything good keep me posted!
@@kidbaseball4 Did you ever try that water shield?
Fantastic idea
Excellent idea but we need a better camera angle 👍
Good to know.
I love your idea I want to try it out what size tubeing do I need for fat tyres size 26x4.0 has inertube?
Thanks! I haven’t found foam insulation to fit the fat tire bike as of yet. The search continues.
@@kidbaseball4 oh no! lol well thanks for the info so what's the best stuff I can get what does that size?
@@colindollard2812 I’ll swing by the depot and let you know.
@@kidbaseball4 OK as I've seen tannus armour inserts but there £34.99 each but there out of stock! do you supply anything for what I'm looking for?
Pool noodle might work for fat tire 🤔
Is air pressure same with this added
Would you use the same tyre pressure as before you put the foam ring in or less tyre pressure?
Slightly less
@@kidbaseball4 you answered my question. Thank you.
Hello sir. Great channel and video. Do you think or anyone out here think this would work on a bicycle with 700x38c tires with tubes?
Thank you! I think the problem would be the lack of space. It’s so cheap it might be worth the try.
Tannus and Vittoria make some tubless tire inserts. FYI.
I hate flats like everyone else.
Why do you need a sealant for this? Thanks.
I have a question..do you have to put a smaller tube in the tire being the noodle takes up some space..thanks
Good question! I would use a
smaller tube.
Thanks for the reply..that was helpful.
Too bad there's still no way to protect the tread. Do you have a tutorial for changing the tire that won't run flat and maybe won't let air out the stem?
Would it make any sense to leave the tube out? Just the foam and then sealant? I'm thinking that the foam wouldn't get compressed then. So if you had a flat, your tire would rest on the foam and you ride home. Has anyone ridden on just the tire and foam without air? Is the foam supportive enough to ride?
The Tannus liners are able to be ridden on. But in this case I think the foam would get in the way of the sealant doing it’s job. But that’s just my opinion. If you try it let me know if it works.
I have almost the same setup, but tubeless. Mine is hollow tube but is not split in half. Tried riding with it flat and if you’re in a soft enough trail, its still rideable.
That piping insulation looks way better and sturdy than using pool noodles.
I have a 27.5 tire MTB also but it is only 2.3 inch wide. Hopefully it fits right because yours is a 2.8 and it fits perfectly. Hopefully the insulation isn't too wide for my 2.3 inch wide tire.
EDIT - I see you answered a similar question so I know the answer now.
Thanks for the video.
Anytime time! Good luck! Thanks for watching
Try 3/4inch its smaller
@@garybrown9719 Thanks. I'll try that out when I change tires and/or tubes next time.
I did this on my 2.3 mtb tire, had to trim a bit the long way for an easy fit. Further more over time the foam will flatten out and not protect as well so I just added another foam piece on top of the old one and it worked even better
Hello, I was wandering what size pipe insulation I would need for a 29x2.125 inch MTN bike tire? I enjoyed your video and would like to try this as I keep getting flats on my MTN bike
Hey, the Home Depot sells a 6 ft by 1 inch should work for you. Also if you keep getting flats check your tire for something in the tire itself. Hope this helps
@@kidbaseball4 What size i need tyres 26.40 ? Thanks!
@@mygoalcrash8077 fat tire? Don’t think you’re going to find one that fits that. Sorry
My tires are 29 .2 10. G t agressor
First comment! Keep the videos coming!
Thank you for the kind words!
Awesome idea I'm going to try it hard to really see what you're doing now I can see the back of your head and jacket though LOL messing with you I'm going to try it though
Thanks. Haha. Give it a try
Will this work with a 26 inch tire thats 4 inches wide on a wired freedom e bike you think?
I’m going to say no. But Tannus sells liners for fat bikes. Check them out
Pool noodles and this, what are they like after a year? how much have they compressed?, as I use Tannus liners and they compress wafer thin after at most a year and are just about useless needing replacing. Is it better to swap to something like this (I must admit I have never had a puncture wit a Tannus liner though in 5 years) as those Tannus liner are an expensive hobby!..
They compress down quite a bit. Like any other “liner” product they offer you some protection. Tannus is a great product. This offers an affordable option to flat protection. Stay safe
If anyone is sceptical of this solution - I'd highly recommend trying it at the rear first, especially for people that are "heavy-tailed" in their riding style, and have a history of casing rear wheels.
It's guaranteed to reduce (but maybe not eradicate) the amount of snakebite punctures suffered!
Thanks for info. Do you think this would help with pinch flats/snakebites where the tube gets pinched on installation? That seems to be my problem. I take my time and stuff when inserting the tube but often still manage to pinch it between the tire and the rim. I think it is because the tire isn't tight to the rim until after I start to inflate the tube. Rather loose in fact. But it tightens up good once inflated. However, I suspect the tube often makes it's way under the tire before it tightens. Wonder if this hack would prevent that?
@@101perspective Short answer - Yes.
Longer answer - I have had a similar experience with this due to running tubeless-intended MTX rims for over a decade.
Hollow pool noodles, or a Tannus (which I run) enables you to run a smaller inner tube, than the size originally intended, and the latter has in-built pinch protection
@@101perspective When filling mtb tubes back up with air, only fill it to half the regular pressure then let the air out and then refill it to the pressure that you want. This has always worked for me to avoid pinch flats. And use baby powder to avoid any tube to tire friction. Good luck.
@@TheJokerMachine1 Thanks. I put a tube in a couple days ago and so far it hasn't gone flat. I kind of did what you said by accident. Well, the baby powder was on purpose. However, I got the stem in crooked a couple times and had to deflate and reinflate it a couple times. I also spent a ton of time peaking around the rim at about 1/3rd inflation to check for pinches. Didn't see any.
Thanks nice vid
Thank you!
Can u get this foam for fat tires 20×4.0
after inserted and the tube re-inlated the pipe insulation will compress to the thinness of paper. I got a flat from a bullhead sticker with mine in place. Won't work!
Maybe try going tubless
Can I do this with a bmx bike? Would the tires be sponge on the street I ride with around 50 psi
I don’t see why not. Once you inflate the tire the insulation compresses. You won’t even feel a difference
I need to do this, I have Lowe’s and I see a Frost King brand of the pipe foam. Can this work without the sealant because the tube I will use will have slime already in it. It’s on a 27 inch mountain bike (not electric). Great video sir. 👍
Yes, the slime tube is fine. Than you and good luck!!
@@kidbaseball4 👍
@@kidbaseball4also I could add some baby powder to avoid pinches maybe? I do this on my scooter tire tubes
@@ElectricScooterMan I can’t see why not.
@@kidbaseball4 I went to Lowe’s and bought the one you got and the foam is almost there and little bit of space so I just hold on to it for my scooter next time. Not gonna take it back. Will have to buy bigger one
Do we need to use a smaller sectioned tube because of much of the space in the tire now being filled with the foam? If so , how much smaller? Thanks
The foam will compress down. You can run the same tube.
@@kidbaseball4 Thanks for the reply 👍👍👍
We viewers would get a better idea of what you are doing if your back or shoulder were not blocking our view.
Do you have to change the tube size or just use the same one?
You could use the same tube. But a smaller tube is probably better.
I like and understand the concept. The question is: how long will the insulation last? How many miles until it disintegrates into particles? Anyone know?
There is a way to answer all of your question. 😁
The answer is different for every rider. How often you ride , how much do you weigh, what terrain do you ride, what temperature do you live in ect.
Pop two in and let me know how you do.
I would like to try a 4" foam for my 4" fat tires on my e-bike. The thing i am a little worried about is that fat tires are so supple that i can remove the tires from the rims without using tire levers. MY fat tires hold 30 PSI max, so when i use this foam system, will i still pump the tires to 30 PSI?
I’ve seen some fat tires that are very loose before the air is in them. Going to 30 shouldn’t be an issue. Inspect them as you fill them up.
@@kidbaseball4 Interesting. Thanks so much for the quick reply.
@@kidbaseball4 When the tire finally wears away and the tube is still fine, can i deflate the tube and reuse the same "insides" or will i need to redo the whole system with new foam, tube, and sealant, as shown?
Wow, 30 psi. I usually run less than 10 psi, depending upon expected terrain conditions, so that the tire is part of the suspension system. Cheers.
What size pipe insulation noodle would you suggest for a 4” fat tire?
I don’t think they make pipe insulation that big. It’s too bad.
Maybe a pool noodle might do it?
Would it make any sense to insert the tube into the foam insulation prior to putting both into the tire?
You just want to make sure the tube isn’t twisted. How you choose to do it is your call.
@@kidbaseball4 Thanks!
I tried Slime in my 20" X 4" (supple) fat tires and the Slime made a complete mess when i got a puncture. I went flat in about 30 seconds and the Slime was all over EVERYTHING. The fat tires are too supple for Slime to work - it almost felt like a balloon breaking - the Slime wasn't able to seal the hole. It's impossible to repair a flat with a patch with Slime in the tube. When i got home, i removed the tube and took out the valve and ran warm water through the valve and let it drain out from where the puncture hole was and through the valve. Then i chose to blow dry the inside of the tube using a hair dryer and a funnel so that when i put on a patch, nothing would come out from the puncture when i applied pressure on the glued patch to make it stick. I, also, had to wash away all the Slime from the inner side of the fender and from the whole entire tire - it was everywhere. If i didn't have a fender on my bike, i would have certainly had Slime all over me as the wheel spun and squirted Slime out of the puncture. I kept peddling, hoping the Slime would do its job with each rotation - but nope - squirt, squirt!
This was the rear wheel, by the way, and my ebike weighs about 75 lbs with the battery and my saddle bags of tools, spare tube, and air pump. I weigh about 135 lbs in summer clothes and many more pounds when dressed in my heavy, winter clothes and boots. When i installed the Slime, i had a slow leak, and the Slime plugged THAT up well, but, when i got a real puncture, it wasn't worth using the Slime.
5:00 🕔 foam insulation
Which foam should i buy for my 26" x 4" tire and original tube?
The standard one at any home improvement store. It’s very easy to trim if you need to.
www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-3-4-X-1-2-WALL-X-6-LONG-FOAM-SS-7PXL048078-HDM/324124118
@@kidbaseball4 for a 4" wide tire also?
@@meep2059 I don’t think that would work for a fat tire.
Is Stan's better than Slime? If so, then why?
I have one bike tubless one with tubes. I use Stan’s. The one advantage I’ve come across is when it’s time to clean up the tire to add new sealant the Stan’s cleans up well. Hope this is helpful.
i found out this after noon i have a flat,, pulled tube, and thorn Strip out, could not find anything in the Tire or strip, after close inspection of tube i discovered the Tube has 3 spots that look like it split on the Seam where the Tube is put together, ( Defective Tube ) sad tho i do not have the Store receipt, since the tube was bought some 5 months ago
That sucks! Was the hole on the top or bottom of the tube? Reason I ask is if on the bottom of the tube it could be a spoke poking through. Check the rim strip.
@@kidbaseball4 it was bottom the side that hits the ground
@@onlyspicekitty interesting
Did you hit a curb or anything?
@@kidbaseball4 i hit 2 spots in road, a sudden bump, posable cause of split in tube
Yep I tried this stuff the idea is good but unfortunately it doesn't work.
The official stuff might as I've not tried that stuff, but the insulation idea looks like it should but it doesn't.
What actually happens to this stuff is that it get compressed and over time it simply becomes so compressed that it starts to disintegrate and causes chaffing on the tube which causes a puncture.
I suspect the original stuff uses something to avoid this chaffing.
On the tube I tried it on I got a small patch of damaged tube, and looking at the tube you could see where it had rubbed.
So I would say it's not a good idea to actually implement though the concept seemed like a good idea.
Unfortunately flats on a bike are inevitable. This is something to help prevent some flats.
I still have mine in since I made the video. Wish it worked for you.
@@kidbaseball4 Yes I had my one in but when I checked the tube after it went down on me for no reason, I discovered the exact place it went down was at a point where it had chaffed, I inspected the insulator and found it had almost disintegrated with big holes in it.
So I had not gotten a puncture from a pin or glass or any object, it was due to rubbing between the tube and the insulator.even though the insulator is soft it may have caused friction burn inside the tyre.
I put in a new tube after checking the tyre left out the insulator and no problem.
Also I noticed the condition of the insulator was in such a poor state that it would not have been in a position to stop anything anyway. Again which suggest to me that it does not work.
I as I said suspect the original uses something to reduce the friction and damage to its integrity thus being able to stop punctures.
Would this work without the sealant?
Yes, the sealant is added protection.
Is it 1 inch because it’s made to fit over a 1 inch pipe?
I believe so
@@kidbaseball4 ok cool. Thanks
The struggle is real. 😉
Sir I Hope you see and reply to my comment the question is what size of foam tube to use for my 26x1.95 wheel ?
Im from philippines and in my daily ride to my work I have aalways have a flat tire and luckily today I had the most flat it happened 3 times today because of broken glasses in the Ground pleaseee help me sir
1 inch pipe insulation should work. It’s easy to cut if you need to.
@@kidbaseball4 Thank you 🙏❤️
Here's another tip/hack, how to use old inner tube as a tire liner to help prevent punctures.
th-cam.com/video/CymFi5qY6O4/w-d-xo.html
What tire inflation psi did you use?
25 psi
@@kidbaseball4 thanks
My bike is a electric bike with 26+4.0 fat tyres
When using the insert why is it still necessary to fill it with air?
It’s not dense enough to ride on unfortunately.
@@kidbaseball4 I see, thanks for the reply. I appreciate that!
How can the insulation prevent flat tires? Thanks for sharing.
Once you fill the tire with air the insulation compresses creating a small barrier between the tube and the tire. Acting like a tire insert. Hope this helps.
My stupid question is, do you need the extra long valve stem
Not a stupid question! But no you don’t.
@@kidbaseball4 thanks
Three more stupid questions, how is this working today, would you do it again? Did it impact your speed very much?
I am thinking of doing this on my hybrid and 29er mountain bike because where I ride in the summer, cell service is spotty, and a bike tire repair going wrong could result in a 20 mile walk pushing a bike.
Also did you use the same size inner tube or go down one size?
link to the syringe and the tube?
RRK Tubeless Bike Tire Tool, Repair Kit and Sealant Injector Syringe Set with Valve Removal Tool Kit
Easy way to cut up your hand... I've cut my hand on glass in my tire doing that once. Cost me 20k to get my tendon surgically reattached on the top of my hand that was cut. I would not advise following this guide on that run your hand along the inside of the tire advise he gives here. Unless you love your surgeon and hate money and are a masochist. Just my two cents.
been using pipe insulation for months, 2 metre lengths £1.80 screw fix no problem no punctures since just use a narrow innertube have not noticed any differnce
Andy carpenter, just out curiosity. How has this hack worked out for you mate, I'm a regular user hybrid rider an was seeing if it stills works? No side effects on the weight of bike or ride? Thanks
I have a new Roscoe 7 that has the same tires
Sweet
Anyone tried seatbelt material as a liner
I haven’t, but seems like it would be effective.
Hi whats the iner diameter on the foam pool noodle
3/8 I believe
@@kidbaseball4 thank u
@@TW39 anytime
and is that 3/8 in inches
@@TW39 yes
Do it really work or is it just a fake
It’s not 100 % puncture proof. Nothing is. But if it protects you from one flat it’s worth it. It’s a thin layer of protection.
Where can I find tubeless tires that don't require a tube
Any bike shop or online. What size?
@@kidbaseball4 26x1-1/4 x 1-3/8
@@Botanifiles you might have to jump to a wider tire to go tubeless, if your bike can accommodate it. I was looking online, no luck.
th-cam.com/video/C2iQxpgpd84/w-d-xo.html
Thank you so much for looking into it, and I think you're exactly right, much obliged
Great hack I my used my 4" fat tire cut about half all way around with utility knife 3"over lap no thump got better traction no fish tailing but way more work than your hack.
Glad to hear! Thanks!
That big tire is a lot more work! Stay safe and enjoy.
The insulation is a lot cheaper than Tannus also
It is. Tannus does offer a great product.
Tried this and it ends up flat as a pancake and very thin your best cutting an old tyre each side down the edges and put it in and use some gorilla tape to secure it in place it double skins it and it’s much better takes time but we’ll worth it😊👍
Did you end up trying it? If so, did it work? I have a bad mtb tire, but the threads are still too thick to install inside the current tube.
I've just had a pinch flat 2 weekends in a row on my DH bike, lots of rocky sections on our free hand built trails, really annoying when you want to drop into the bikepark nearby before the tracks close, or even more annoying when you're night riding the free DH trails haha where anything that can happen will because murphy's law lol (such as a Saint derailleur cage snapping 5 weeks ago)..
So i was thinking of going tubeless, was thinking of Kushcore, but I'm turned off by the mess of tubeless sealant, & the price of Kush inserts.. I came across Tannus Armour tube tyre inserts & they look real good, but once again the price, plus low availability in NZ.. So I've come across hacks like yours & im about to give it a go, just for the rear to start since it's only the rear i get punctures, all majority pinch flats & snakebites.. How does this hack work for resisting pinch flats & protecting the rim? And how does it work for traction, does it give more tire spread & allow for lower PSI than a tube? Remembering of course that in DH, Freeride, & Enduro downhills you want lower not higher PSI for better traction over obstacles & around berms.. How long would it last of regular riding, & would it get you home without air in the event of a legit puncture or sidewall gash?
All great questions! The worst thing is a breakdown or a flat while in the trail. I do understand the lower tire pressure for better traction. The tubeless set up is a great option. I ride tubeless on one of my Fat bikes. It has been great. As far as pinch flats are concerned. Is your puncture being caused by a spoke? Or is a true pinch? If it’s a spoke it can be a bad or twisted rim strip. You have a few options in my opinion. I agree the tire liners are a bit pricey. I’ve installed Tannus liners in the past. People swear by them. You could do a tubless hack using the tubes and tires you already have. Search ghetto tubless on TH-cam. The hack I used in the video I’m still running today. It’s affordable and easy to install. If you get a pinch flat and the tube blows you can’t ride out on it like a Tannus. I have also in the past run a two tube tire. You drill a hole in the rim opposite the existing one for the valve. Install a second tube. ( one over the other). You have to ask yourself is the aggravation worth buying a quality insert. I hope this helps! Ride safe!
Hello! did you try this hack is works on dh bike? same problem have!
Primero lnfla un poco el tubo y lo metes en la proteccion, y despues lo metes a la llanta..asi es mejor y queda de una sola pieza..
I went for pool noodles from Dollar tree, which you have to slice an opening but they squashed up to nothing.
Probably provided a little protection. Something is better than nothing.
@@kidbaseball4
Yes. After I did get the flat, I chose to ride my 53 lb e-bike home 3 miles away. The pool noodles became completely flattened.
How's that tire hack going?
Going great! Now that I jinxed it. Lol
That's what I'm talking about Tannus tire inserts $140 + for 26x4 inch tire is way over priced . First time I saw them I said pipe insulation is cheap .
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it realy works?
followup video? does it really work?
I’m still riding the bike with the inserts. No flats. It’s hard to prove or disprove. I honestly couldn’t say if it worked or didn’t. I guess I’d only know if it didn’t. So far so good. Stay safe!
@@kidbaseball4 Thanks for the feedback! I want also to give it a try
@@AlexdaCunha let me know how you make out
Yeah and i pump 80 psi shuold be like Stone hard . I dont think so .
I wouldn’t pump it to 80 psi. Check the recommended psi located on the sidewall of the tire.
Would be nice to actually see you putting it on 😤
Not sure what you mean. Putting what on?
pool noodles, really? those won't do much.
Prove it! Since I installed it not one flat.
@@kidbaseball4 might be luck, but maybe this is a differently type of foam than the usual pool noodle? pool noodles cut easily.
dont absorb impacts. just you cutting it with a knife that easily is proof enough. I think. but I've not tried it.
but the dancer the foam is more it will protect. thicker it is, but the tyre it self makes a huge difference too, the level of protection it has. some tyres have very little protection so they puncture very easily.
@@kidbaseball4 another thing, you might experience issues with sealant making big chucks inside the tube when it's old. I've experienced that myself, but I no longer use tubes as I got tubeless studded tyres too, so no more swapping for tubes in the winter. tubes you cant clean the sealant out of, unless you use some liquid solution to remove latex if it's latex sealant.
also valve can get clogged up. But I know there are tube specific sealants, but I don't know what the difference is with those.
I hear you. I just wanted to try it and see how it worked. I have another bike all tubeless. But not everyone can do it or afford it. I like to try it and pass it on to the people that don’t want to invest in a tubless set up. So far it’s working well. If I have just enough insulation to prevent the thorns from puncturing my tube then it’s doing it’s job and as far as the valves clogging I can remove the core and clear out any blockages. I’m not expecting the pipe foam insulation to be better than the $50.00 products that are specifically designed for riding. This is just an option that is proven to work. It might be annoying to some people that something so simple and cheap worked but that’s the truth. When I get a flat I’ll post it. But for now I’m going to keep riding.
@@kidbaseball4 would be interesting to see an punchture test with and without.
Why do Americans say whats up when there's nothing wrong?
Stupid idea ..better using a fabric that could handle more than that shi.
You won’t be able to notice they are installed
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This aint work . Worse idea ever
You shoul test it with nails before upload this ..
That’s great advice.
Ongeschikt,veel te poreuze verbrokkelt helemaal 👎🏼De originele is elastisch.
I’ve never had one completely crumble. It goes between the tube and tire not the tube and rim just to be clear.
Why the hell would you use the back of your hand???
Lol...🤣🤣🤣🤣
Or double tube.