Mega Man's been bad because nobody knows how to use him and his kill options are limited but if you master the kill and just pile on the damage he can wreck shit.
Great set and play by Kamemushi, but what bothers me is how many people are claiming ZeRo got bodied...no...he lost and each game was relatively close. Good games to both players.
Agreed. I think that had it been the other way around with ZeRo getting the 3-0 under the same circumstances (close games), most people would still be hyping up Kamemushi for keeping up. But people just want to see champions fall.
Agreed, Zero played well, just got edged out by a really, really good Mega Man. I think the MU was a part of it too, MM just has really good zoning options while Diddy is forced to go in for most of his attacks through a hailstorm of lemons.
Smash 4 had the exact same spot on the schedule as last EVO's and it didn't have customs on this time, and because of that it had a lot more international players than before, and yet it had less viewership than at last EVO.
ZeRo really needs to bring back the Sheik. It's a good character to cover for match ups that he can't win with Diddy. I feel as though Cloud as his back up isn't working too well for him. More importantly, he needs to be more confident in his characters. Thankfully this tournament brought the real ZeRo back. Kamemushi still a beast though.
BlackDeathBlade sheik been in the game to long and has a hard time setting up ko's like needles to bouncing fish diddy can easily set up a ko with bananas
Mega Man: Screw you high tiers! But seriously, I'm crying tears of joy right now, being a Mega Main after all. The GF made me happier because Mario and Mega Man are my mains.
+Mikizially said that just because he beat kamemushi doesnt mean he is better than them but japan still is the best because Ranai beat ally all the time.
Ally has lost over japan players: ranai , komorikiri, 9b, abadango and somejapanese that i dont emember so yeah plus he didnt encounter any japanese players in this tournament so that means CANDA
So Mega Man who defeated Zero 3-0 wasn't hype? Man where have you been? Ya he lost to Ally again but you gotta give Kamemushi credit for making it to grand finals with Mega Man.
I mean, yeah of course. But that still gives no reason why he would say that Mega Man is carrying players. He's never done anything like that before after losing to a character.
You guys are pathetic can't even give respect where it's due. Kameme is god like Mega man and he outplayed Zero fair and square. I mean at least give some respect to Kameme
2:38 I wonder if the metal blade placed on the ledge is a bait. The first impulse that someone would have here is to grab the item while recovering, which would force you to drop down from the ledge and use your double jump. It forced Zero into a position where he could get up - smashed. Interesting stuff.
Both players made great plays! Congrats to kamemuchi and ZeRo both! I don't think ZeRo list because he was playing bad. Personally I think it falls down to matchup experience. How many times has anyone ever fought against a legitimately good mega man player? Matchup experience means so much in this game and that is a difficult thing to do against certain characters. I myself played against a good mega man player, as Kirby I was getting wrecked not knowing how to approach this guy. However, after a few matches I realized I could duck underneath mega mans jabs. Instantly the match was a ton easier. Without having experience knowing how to deal with a matchup it is very likely that you will lose. Especially if the person your fighting knows how to play against you. Mad props to both players for making it an exciting match. ( and for dealing with all the crap at Evo)
I wanted him to win, too. ZeRo is actually the person who was or is planning on bringing more Japanese players to the tournaments in America. ZeRo most likely contributed to Kamemushi's arrival. Generally, Japanese players rarely travel overseas to compete, even when it comes to EVO.
Are you kidding me? You just sound extremely butthurt that he took out ZeRo. I find it hilarious when people accuse an item-oriented character to be "cancerous" simply because that character placed high. It's optimal to act a little annoying as Mega Man so if you can't grasp that then idk what else to tell you.
+illuminachos No, you have all the right to react the way you did. This Megaman did everything almost perfectly and optimally, and there's someone who has who knows how much experience in competitive Smash calling him "cancerous."
+HolyKnightGamer72 I'm not gonna act like i don't get salty from a loss, but fuck "he deserved to win more". Its bullshit to try to act like the guy who still has the best record is some random, but don't act like Kamemushi drugged his water bottle or some shit.
+CJ Skittlez People are taking ZeRo as a joke. They are saying "Is he still the best", which is illogical because yes he is, and he has the record to prove it.
+CJ Skittlez And i respect both players, but I think ZeRo was counting on this tournament to bring back the title of best Smash Bros. WiiU player, which he has, but not many people think so.
![[SSBU] Jumping is Overpowered](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/BmcpWL4FEp8/mqdefault.jpg)
This is the best advertising Capcom could have gotten from EVO.
Bring back Mega Man!
I guess street fighter on ESPN doesn't count then
olixleon Nah, people who watch ESPN don't play video games.
I kid.
Bring back Megaman
It's called Mighty Number Scam- I mean 9.
"so a lot of people have been wondering why mega man is top tier"
Lollin'
xD
i doubt it. hes extremely hard to master lol
Isaiah Hill he takes time and dedication, he's not hard to learn
Black MK The reason kameme did so well is cause of the footstool stuff. Footstooling grounded opponents mid match is really hard lmao
This is why Mega Man is better than Zero. Remember it folks.
lmao
Lol
Lololololol
Haha yup, better bewbs too.
LMAO
Mega Man is fighting for his franchise right now.
Inb4 megaman(insert EVO shape here)
lmfaoooooooo!!!
lol
bruh, lmaoooooo
That fight was well won, with Mega Man 11 coming in at 2018.
"So a lot of people have been wondering why I think Mega Man needs to be nerfed"
mega man not realy been good
Mega Man's been bad because nobody knows how to use him and his kill options are limited but if you master the kill and just pile on the damage he can wreck shit.
Johnny Clocks
i know he good but ther iother chaters are way better and i never seen anyone play this good but me
ally knew, thats why he beat kame
Remember when ZeRo ranked Mega Man lower than Dedede on an old tier list?
This is sweet, sweet karma.
not really I mean no one really knew how to fight mega man imo
I mean, Dedede is the best character in the game, everyone is ranked lower than Dedede
truth
zero even called himself out on that one hahaha
just because one player is really good with a character doesn't really make the character any better.
Great set and play by Kamemushi, but what bothers me is how many people are claiming ZeRo got bodied...no...he lost and each game was relatively close. Good games to both players.
also gotta recall how bad Zero is with matchups he's unfamiliar with. hes not bad but they throw him off a lot
Agreed. I think that had it been the other way around with ZeRo getting the 3-0 under the same circumstances (close games), most people would still be hyping up Kamemushi for keeping up. But people just want to see champions fall.
Agreed, Zero played well, just got edged out by a really, really good Mega Man. I think the MU was a part of it too, MM just has really good zoning options while Diddy is forced to go in for most of his attacks through a hailstorm of lemons.
Johnny Clocks Someone who gets it...You deserve your Ring
***** Gimme your ring
It's not possible for this to have zero dislikes if Zero dislikes.
Lol did ZeRo really dislike this video???
+HeirofBlood124 probably
Auraburst lol Z can't take an L
music plays
And people said Kamemushi was overrated
Who? Lol
+EJJTheMiner I think he just meant how people have been overrating Japan in general
oh okay
It's weird how Japan is overrated and underrated at the same time
the wrong people are rated
7:20
with about 100% rage, that would've killed. But I'm wondering, wouldn't a charged down smash do it?
Hello, MH fella.
すごいよね
Should of went Shulk against megaman
that sounds like a terrible idea
you kidding me that MU sucks for shulk
Shulk beats the pellets and can up tilt when megaman wants to approach him jumping
Shulk beats mega man 6/4
What's your NID...I'll show you how easily shulk beats mega man
4:07 Was just incredible.
I think this might be one of the most important sets in smash 4's entire existence
Remind me again why was Smash 4 Finals wasn't part on the final day of EVO?
I'm guessing because more people watch and prefer melee.
Because evo is an overrated biased piece of shit tournament
smash4 had more attendance. its because bias
attendance doesn't matter, all that matters is viewership.
Smash 4 had the exact same spot on the schedule as last EVO's and it didn't have customs on this time, and because of that it had a lot more international players than before, and yet it had less viewership than at last EVO.
Why does everyone keep saying zero got destroyed? These matches look pretty close to me.
Indeed. It could've gone either way. Great set overall.
Not destroyed, he got outplayed.
he got 3-0d
ZeRo really needs to bring back the Sheik. It's a good character to cover for match ups that he can't win with Diddy. I feel as though Cloud as his back up isn't working too well for him. More importantly, he needs to be more confident in his characters. Thankfully this tournament brought the real ZeRo back. Kamemushi still a beast though.
your right
BlackDeathBlade sheik been in the game to long and has a hard time setting up ko's like needles to bouncing fish diddy can easily set up a ko with bananas
Mega Man: Screw you high tiers!
But seriously, I'm crying tears of joy right now, being a Mega Main after all. The GF made me happier because Mario and Mega Man are my mains.
Japan kicked ass
But Ally said "Canada > Japan" in grands
+Mikizially said that just because he beat kamemushi doesnt mean he is better than them but japan still is the best because Ranai beat ally all the time.
+Son Nguyen Yeah and Komo has beaten ally as well.
Ally has lost over japan players: ranai , komorikiri, 9b, abadango and somejapanese that i dont emember so yeah plus he didnt encounter any japanese players in this tournament so that means CANDA
weeb
Really wanted to see ally vs zero. All I knew was this megaman was going to lose again by ally lmao what a waste of hype.
So Mega Man who defeated Zero 3-0 wasn't hype? Man where have you been? Ya he lost to Ally again but you gotta give Kamemushi credit for making it to grand finals with Mega Man.
Watch Zero make a video about how Mega Man is "carrying the players".
Why would he say that?
+Jarchafiend Because he got fucking destroyed by a Megaman.
I mean, yeah of course. But that still gives no reason why he would say that Mega Man is carrying players. He's never done anything like that before after losing to a character.
Diddy kong tweet he did back in the beginning of smash 4 lol
+zeldafan41 yeah, but Diddy was on in the beginning of smash 4
This really just popped up, algorithm strikes again
First Mario, then Sonic, then Pac-Man, and now Mega man...
Sakurai is trying to make these four the best characters for there series!
MetalMario2628 Pac-man, good? Lul
I wish ZeRo knew the match-up. This was kinda sad to watch
LOL I feel you man
You guys are pathetic can't even give respect where it's due. Kameme is god like Mega man and he outplayed Zero fair and square. I mean at least give some respect to Kameme
winning won't bring your franchise back, Mega Man.
no, that's his creartors job
You thought!
Megaman 11
DID YOU SEE THAT SHEIK EDGE GUARD IN GAME TWO?! That is an edge guard!!
Megaman! will start playing smash 4 again.
ZeRo just believes too much into his set ups his diddy isnt patient anymore and he pushed too hard
more like never play against Megamans and now theyre rippin pros like spoiled kids on christmas...
yeah its just mega man lol. seriously. next time zero plays Kame he will win....
+Taydrz +TrippyMayne He played against several mega mans... He also was in Japan doing friendlies and he knows the matchup
Free Rocks oh okay. thanks for the info!!!
He didn't play against Kameme in Japan. And during EVO he wanted to practice vs a Mega Manbut there was none.
Yooo and smash ultimate kameme 3-0 mkleo. He's kinda of a godslayer.
Dont underestimate the super fighting robot ever again!
Amazing set.
7:21 Sick Mega Man setup combo!
MWA HAHAHAHA Take that ZeRo. Or rather NeGaTiVe OnE!
wow lol
boo
man,if you're gonna hate on zero(within itself makes nosense), at least be funny
The MegaMan chants at the end make me so happy to hear as a MegaMan main
These comments though XDD. also, ZeRo must be slipping. but damn, as a Megaman main, my hat goes off to you Kamemushi
And this ladies and misses, is why tier list are a waste of time.
I wanted to see ally vs zero at evo and have zero take his revenge.
and people are saying that scatt is the best mega man
our boy kamemushi is
the minority of people say that, most people know kamemushi is the best MM even scatt said it himself.
I never said that everyone or many people are saying it.
Reference to #ZeRoOpininons (remember his best player of each character list )
7:20 footstool combo u are welcome :)
Kameme
Holy shit that combo at 7:10 was disgusting.
EVEN NOW THERE IS HOPE FOR MAN
Dude honestly mega man is annoying as hell xD!!
scarflard dethroned
zero lose some weight bro
2:38 I wonder if the metal blade placed on the ledge is a bait. The first impulse that someone would have here is to grab the item while recovering, which would force you to drop down from the ledge and use your double jump. It forced Zero into a position where he could get up - smashed. Interesting stuff.
OMG 7:20
10:22 didnt know he threw metal blade with banana xD
Did ZeRo get... 3-ZeRo'd? :D I REGRET NOTHING
M2k 3-0 him too
Mega man!!! Megaman!!!!! Megaman!!!!
FD was a weird pick
Someone start a petition for Smash to be an Olympic sport
ZeRo is going to reck him on the runback the way he got revenge on Larry Lurr.
I'm rooting for him lol
Can't you at least give some respect to Kameme?
ZERO DISRESPECT!!! But not like that!! Lol, Kamemushi, wow! This Man is Mega. Just sayin...
12:30
Both players made great plays! Congrats to kamemuchi and ZeRo both! I don't think ZeRo list because he was playing bad. Personally I think it falls down to matchup experience. How many times has anyone ever fought against a legitimately good mega man player? Matchup experience means so much in this game and that is a difficult thing to do against certain characters. I myself played against a good mega man player, as Kirby I was getting wrecked not knowing how to approach this guy. However, after a few matches I realized I could duck underneath mega mans jabs. Instantly the match was a ton easier. Without having experience knowing how to deal with a matchup it is very likely that you will lose. Especially if the person your fighting knows how to play against you. Mad props to both players for making it an exciting match. ( and for dealing with all the crap at Evo)
Zero should have stayed Sheik. Megaman can easily cut down Diddy options and stagger his mobility
He's literally playing a Megaman Game shooting powershots and scrolling through Metal Blade and Crash Bomb. Nuts!!!
what's happening to ZeRo? :(
The nerfs
He didn't know the match-up and lost
If zero stayed with shiek, maybe he could have lasted a bit longer. Good stuff to Kamemushi though.
ZeRoに勝ったからロックマンが強キャラだとかそのプレイヤーがツヨイとか何でもZeRo基準になってるよね
ZeRo was rights about his name, because this match was 0... to 3. *burn*
WTF Diddy 12:08 ?? He throw away banana and blade at same moment?
ABATE!!!! Kappa
Am I weird for wanting ZeRo to win?
no
Nope
Cool.
I wanted him to win, too. ZeRo is actually the person who was or is planning on bringing more Japanese players to the tournaments in America. ZeRo most likely contributed to Kamemushi's arrival. Generally, Japanese players rarely travel overseas to compete, even when it comes to EVO.
you're fine.
Kamemushi looks like Raphael the Ninja Turtle.
where did this take place? i live in NYC and i could never find tourneys, i never knew ZeRo was in NY either. i cri
this and grand finals didn't even have 100k views? yeah smash 4 is gonna die soon
The lemons are so good for shooting down those fairs and bairs Zero likes to throw out a lot. Really great knowledge from Kamemushi.
this would have been mire hype if it was zero vs ally grand finals....you know with the #team zero and #team ally thing
he just 3-0 zero, wtf? that megaman looks cancerous to play against, almost worse than campy toon link
Are you kidding me? You just sound extremely butthurt that he took out ZeRo. I find it hilarious when people accuse an item-oriented character to be "cancerous" simply because that character placed high. It's optimal to act a little annoying as Mega Man so if you can't grasp that then idk what else to tell you.
Didn't mean to come off too rude there btw, but I'm just tired of chars like MM being called "campy" or "spammy"
+illuminachos No, you have all the right to react the way you did. This Megaman did everything almost perfectly and optimally, and there's someone who has who knows how much experience in competitive Smash calling him "cancerous."
dude im 100% with you. i would of probably punched kamemuchi in the face out of frustration
that and he didn't konw the amtchup lol
I saw you play in the championship of 2017, also gained experience from brawl
ZeRo what's happening to you😨😨😨
Wish Zero won this set. Zero vs Ally GF would have been way more hype. Good job to Kamemushi though
Superpokemaster e
wow zero lost...but thats to be expected when main a diddy everyone knows i mean seriously mix it up -_-
This comment dumb as hell.
he is just destroying sheik players
do Kamemushi have a Unibrow?
I'm mad... lemon usage(97%)
Zero should of never went sheik
I have two characters Ike and Link
That style up throw kill at the end tho.
ZeRo died a little inside that day.
should went captain falcon
esports rivalries are basically animes
Seriously, Kameme needs to be nerfed!
10:22
1 stock ended and i was staring Japanese eyes lol
So, Mega Man now shoots melons? 9:03
12:08 wtf did I see that right?
zero te pusieron en tu lugar
no sheik no glory
Optimal rolls....
I feel bad for zero.
He won evo last year because that was pre patch Diddy where hoo haa killed at stupid percents
um actually...the diddy in this game is practically the same diddy from last EVO so....
+Exdee no it's fuckibg not down throw up air doesn't kill at 100%
The Diddy nerfs happened before EVO 2015 actually, so no, that wasn't even close to the reason why he won.
Dang, third zero tournament loss
I believe this is 6th or 7th tournament loss
#makereplaceshiekwithmegaman
Brazzer's...
D1: OMG IT'S HAPPENING
>scarflard
this is satisfying
So glad he lost.
ZeRo deserved to win more than Kamemushi. Now the majority of the Smash community thinks he is irrelevant due to this loss.
how is 3rd place irrelevant?
+HolyKnightGamer72 I'm not gonna act like i don't get salty from a loss, but fuck "he deserved to win more". Its bullshit to try to act like the guy who still has the best record is some random, but don't act like Kamemushi drugged his water bottle or some shit.
+CJ Skittlez People are taking ZeRo as a joke. They are saying "Is he still the best", which is illogical because yes he is, and he has the record to prove it.
+CJ Skittlez And i respect both players, but I think ZeRo was counting on this tournament to bring back the title of best Smash Bros. WiiU player, which he has, but not many people think so.
What a killer!