YES! Real men wear "small" (or actually normal) size watches. I have a number of WW2 watches issued to the forces and used in action which are 30 - 35 mm. I love wearing the small (normal) sized pieces, much classier.
I have several 34 mm watches (mostly vintage) and I don't mind it at all, I do have a 16.5 cm wrist. I actually think that smaller sizes will see a resurgence in 2020. Thanks Marc for the share 👍
I love the small sizes...they bring me back to the 40s and 50s. I usually wear 36mm, but I could definitely wear 34...especially if it's thin. I personally wish they would get rid of the rotor to make it thinner. I don't think dress watches need a rotor.
Thanks for the posting this. I think dress watches from 34mm-38mm are ideal even today. I cringe when I see a nice dress watch at 40mm or above. To me, size relates to style. Sports/tool watches look good in the 40mm-42mm range.
I'm the small watch guy. I like how Seiko handles this (mostly) by making the same watch smaller instead of making the smaller watches extra feminine. Nothing wrong with feminine or pink watches but those I personally wouldn't buy. Casio for instance makes smaller g-shock watches but insists on calling them Baby-G. Junkers says you can have a smaller Bauhaus watch but certainly not without added diamonds. Now I admit that I don't have access to the sales figures of these companies so perhaps from a business perspective this makes sense. However from the perspective of letting everyone buy the watch they want in the size they want it doesn't really to me.
Men don't call that Pink. Instead we call it "Salmon" like the fish we catch. That way, we can wear it too. Yes I'd like to have the larger size salmon dial. I'd get one.
i had no idea the presage line came in 34mm until I bought one by mistake thinking it was 40mm, it was a pleasant surprise since I love smaller watches. especially those between 34-36mm
My dad's 1978 Rolex 1501 Date is 34mm and seemed very small to me at first wear. After spending a short time on my wrist, I got used to the size and now prefer a smaller watch. I have a 7" wrist. I just ordered the srp837 and hopefully it works out well for me!
I thought the 34mm looked better on your wrist. I bought a Seiko dress style watch. Its 42mm, it's ok on my 7 1/4 wrist but hardly gets worn, as it doesn't feel right for a dress watch. Think 38mm is the ideal for this type of watch, or smaller
Well Seiko could have made more sizes than just 34mm and 40mm. Maybe something like 32mm, 37mm, and 40mm. If Seiko only made it in a single 36mm-39mm size, that would exclude the female demographic since for most of us 36mm and above is huge and impractical.
What about those models from the 2020 catalog (it got removed from their site after 2 days), the SRPE41/43/45/47/49? They have new pattern on the dial and are somewhere in the middle with 38,5mm diameter.
I love the 34mm... some of my favorite watches are my vintage Timex and Bulovas which are the same size. It’d be nice to have that classic size with a modern movement like this one.
They’re nice Marc but I’m not going back to a smaller diameter. It has nothing to do with ego but everything to do with presence, heft & readability. My very first watch was a manual 34mm Gladstone. Fine in its day but for me, bigger is better. 42-44mm
I wear suits for work and I use vintage watches and they are all 34/35mm. For me the bracelet (that I usually love) is very thin and looks weird, but put on it a leather strap and it looks amazing. It’s like having a modern watch made as it should be.
Love that Seiko came out with more dial colorways for the 33mm Presage Cocktail series. The red dial, although stunning, was too flashy for me personally, and the other dial colorways of the gold & silver combo weren’t my thing. I’ll be picking up the grey and ice blue dial versions in short order👍 Hope Seiko comes out with the green Mockingbird in 33mm next...
I wonder how many folks would like to swap out the hands on the 34mm for the hands on the 41mm. The watches have the same movement, if they'll fit (the dial, case, crystal) it would cure a case of S.S.H.S. (Seiko Stubby Hand Syndrome :-). Also, it's good to see a date window at the perimeter of the dial. It's as if the movement were actually designed for the case size.
Long Island Watch i looked at seikos website and it shows a new model ref srpe15j1. A green dial with a bracelet. But maybe it is the exact same model but with a bracelet instead Of the strap. Thanks for the answer tho you are awesome!
Hey marc. I don't know if you read comments on older videos, but I have a question regarding the higher end seikos. A lot of the higher end ones that use the 4R35 movement have gold tone rotors. Is that rotor gold-plated or toned with other metals?
Great watches, Marc. One thing that does differentiate the two, if it wasn’t mentioned, is the details in the minute track. The larger size has a very detailed minute track, compared to the smaller size. So yes, I think men’s and women’s is not inappropriate. But hey, it’s a watch. People can wear what they like!
This Seiko Presage watch that I could see wearing but I would like to have a white face with gold markers in a two tone gold and stainless. These are about $500 US dollars give or take so I couldn't see why anyone would sell at a cheaper price unless it was a closeout.
God I love your islander watches. Seeing your new releases are my most fav vids to watch. Soon I‘m gonna buy the Islander diver you are wearing in that vid
I enjoyed this video immensely. The thing is that my collection has a number of small vintage Seiko’s. The question is, can a man with an 8” wrist get by with a 34 watch?
Hey Marc; does it seem like Seiko has been releasing a lot more various watch models/variants lately (compared to e.g. their release cadence 2 yrs ago)? From looking at the forums, it kinda looks like Seiko has slapped on a turbocharger on their factories.. Or has it always been this rapid?
My father used for more than 5 decades the 28 x 28 mm Omega Deville that my mother gave to him on their first wedding anniversary, and now I used it. Where is the problem in a man wearing a small watch?
I have a number of 34mm watches - in fact I'm wearing one today... I'm glad you were ’reprimanded’ for your "his and hers" comments lol. I almost wrote a comment myself about alienating potential buyers so I'm happy to see this correction!
I have a Certina certidate circa 1962 that is 34 mm. When I wear it, it looks as though it's part of my wrist. Unobtrusive, but still gets its share of attention from my friends who enjoy watches.
Why not just “big” and “small” size? Calling them “big and little brother” would alienate female buyers in the same way that calling them “big and little sister” would probably alienate male buyers. Sizes don’t need to be gendered.
I cannot wear 34mm (36mm already looks a small on me and 38-41 is my sweet spot) but I love that Seiko hasn't printed the fraction of a second markers which is the thing that I have always disliked on the Cocktail Time. Why do they still print it on the full size watch?
I wear a 1991 Tag Heuer formula 1 chronograph as a daily wear watch and it fits perfect , the larger watches i have dont seem to fit me as well must be my small wrists i guess. It shouldnt matter about the size as long as you love the watch. Keep up the great videos.
They should make the pink version in the Large Size.....they can just market it as another one of their unlimited "limited editions" I bet they would sell out just the same.
They are good looking watches, but they are definitely not worth $450 with a 4r35, mineral crystal, and hollow endlinks! $450 can buy you a much nicer Swiss watch with better specs. For some strange reason I like the pink dial. I would probably go for that pink dial Presage if it were half the price.
How’d you like it! Came in looking to buy the black dial one, then he casually slips in the ice blue dial. I wasn’t really looking to buy two watches today, but…
IMO Seiko is charging way too much for a watch that still has hollow end links on the bracelet. I can't tell you how many Seiko watches I've mangled the hollow end links on. 😞
@@islandwatch Ha,Ha,Ha, for 400 bones I would give my money to someone's widow and grab a solid gold vintage Bulovia, Hamilton , Elgin or such , instead of sending my money off on a boat to Asia, but each to their own :) www.ebay.com/itm/LARGE-Mens-MINT-1952-Bulova-14K-SOLID-GOLD-Automatic-17j-Curl-Lug-Vintage-Watch-/223890914910?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=xoaQXx0YX75ZEJL1sQjGVq%252BJaHc%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc
The "his" version of this looks like a pie pan, like most all Presages. And in my opinion the "hers" version is better proportioned as far as the date window placement. But I'll tell ya what: Another reason why this works as a man's watch is that the lugs and bracelet are actually too wide to be considered a woman's dress watch.
I bought my wife the ladies snowflake version from my son for mother's day, she keeps it in my watch box and everytime I see it I fall for it. The mens larger version look fantastic but not sure I would wear it that often as it is quite dressy, I have decided to pay more for the white Alpinist which suits my needs better👌
As a guy with smaller wrists, I love seeing small modern watches! The subdued presence of a small watch feels more classy and refined to me.
Fully agree with you and I feel they are generally more comfortable to wear..........
Thank you
What you said!!! 👍👍👍
Indeed
YES! Real men wear "small" (or actually normal) size watches. I have a number of WW2 watches issued to the forces and used in action which are 30 - 35 mm. I love wearing the small (normal) sized pieces, much classier.
Dress watches should be classic and tasteful, and 34mm is a classic and tasteful size for dress watches. They look great.
Thank you
I have several 34 mm watches (mostly vintage) and I don't mind it at all, I do have a 16.5 cm wrist.
I actually think that smaller sizes will see a resurgence in 2020.
Thanks Marc for the share 👍
The people have spoken. . . will the brands listen.
But lug size is 17mm
@@sushi7021 hate it when companies use the non standard sizes for lugs
I love the small sizes...they bring me back to the 40s and 50s.
I usually wear 36mm, but I could definitely wear 34...especially if it's thin. I personally wish they would get rid of the rotor to make it thinner. I don't think dress watches need a rotor.
How old are you?
Great idea on the rotor.
Thanks for the posting this. I think dress watches from 34mm-38mm are ideal even today. I cringe when I see a nice dress watch at 40mm or above. To me, size relates to style. Sports/tool watches look good in the 40mm-42mm range.
This is so true
Thanks!
lmao you must be cringing all the time then
Dress style 36mm is seem the best size
The pink looks great. Kind of wish they’d done the blue second hand on it though.
That would be cool, thanks!
But, 40,5 is a bit inelegant. 34 on the other and its agee.
Seiko, why not the classic 36?
I think that's what the majority of watch people think about modern watch releases. A shame manufacturers still don't meet our demands.
Chinese like big watches
I'm the small watch guy. I like how Seiko handles this (mostly) by making the same watch smaller instead of making the smaller watches extra feminine. Nothing wrong with feminine or pink watches but those I personally wouldn't buy.
Casio for instance makes smaller g-shock watches but insists on calling them Baby-G. Junkers says you can have a smaller Bauhaus watch but certainly not without added diamonds. Now I admit that I don't have access to the sales figures of these companies so perhaps from a business perspective this makes sense. However from the perspective of letting everyone buy the watch they want in the size they want it doesn't really to me.
Thanks for the feedback.
i could really go for the small blue or pink. 17mm lug width is a little annoying though
Yeah, gonna be tough finding straps.
Hard to find the strap 17 lug width
Men don't call that Pink. Instead we call it "Salmon" like the fish we catch. That way, we can wear it too. Yes I'd like to have the larger size salmon dial. I'd get one.
Salmon need a bit yellow hue. More likely saturated orange.
No. Salmon color is not pink. Close but not the same.
I have a 34mm Junghans Max Bill and it fits my 16cm wrist very well.
Hey ! I have too a 16cm wrist size. I'm wondering to wear small watch like 34. Do you have change your point of view After all this years ?
I actually really like the look of the 34mm. Thanks for throwing it on!
@Truthfears Guilty there is no "real" size for men's dress watches
You are welcome
I wear a 34mm vintage Seamaster from the early 50's all the time.
i had no idea the presage line came in 34mm until I bought one by mistake thinking it was 40mm, it was a pleasant surprise since I love smaller watches. especially those between 34-36mm
I have 7.25 inch wrist and I own several vintage pieces which are 33 and 34mm. No problem with smaller size whatsoever.
Wear it proudly!
My dad's 1978 Rolex 1501 Date is 34mm and seemed very small to me at first wear. After spending a short time on my wrist, I got used to the size and now prefer a smaller watch. I have a 7" wrist. I just ordered the srp837 and hopefully it works out well for me!
Am I crazy, or does the Ice Blue look way better in the smaller diameter and the “black” look way better in the larger?
Not crazy.
Seiko are missing out on 38- 39mm sales for this range
Smaller watches always looked more refined to me
I get that.
So you're saying the $18 Presage I saw listed on Wish may not be fake?
Absolutely, the smaller version looks great on any wrist.
I really need to get this watch. 34mm is the perfect size for me and I wish there were more watches in this size.
All are gorgeous. That pink really pops.
Sure does, thank you.
I thought the 34mm looked better on your wrist. I bought a Seiko dress style watch. Its 42mm, it's ok on my 7 1/4 wrist but hardly gets worn, as it doesn't feel right for a dress watch. Think 38mm is the ideal for this type of watch, or smaller
Thanks for liking it
Gorgeous watches, but would love to see them sized somewhere between. 36mm-39mm and my wallet hand would start itching.
Never happy! :)
Well Seiko could have made more sizes than just 34mm and 40mm. Maybe something like 32mm, 37mm, and 40mm. If Seiko only made it in a single 36mm-39mm size, that would exclude the female demographic since for most of us 36mm and above is huge and impractical.
You suggest this one over the sarb033?
The 033 gets you a 6R15 movement, which is awesome. So its a tough call.
Will you be stocking those seiko sharp edge presages?
Lug to lug 48mm?
ice blue looks amazing... as does the pink
Thanks!
What about those models from the 2020 catalog (it got removed from their site after 2 days), the SRPE41/43/45/47/49? They have new pattern on the dial and are somewhere in the middle with 38,5mm diameter.
I love the 34mm... some of my favorite watches are my vintage Timex and Bulovas which are the same size. It’d be nice to have that classic size with a modern movement like this one.
Thanks for watching!
Real men don’t worry about what other people say defines real man exclamation
William Warren your statement is a paradox itself.
I would totally wear the pink in a 40MM.
and me
Cool. . . I could see it.
They’re nice Marc but I’m not going back to a smaller diameter. It has nothing to do with ego but everything to do with presence, heft & readability. My very first watch was a manual 34mm Gladstone. Fine in its day but for me, bigger is better. 42-44mm
Thanks for watching.
Offer sapphire crystals for the 34mm and I'm sold!
Not sure the demand is there.
Hell yeah
What about the green one? Ref SRPE15J1. It´s on Seiko's website. Will you have it?
I wear suits for work and I use vintage watches and they are all 34/35mm. For me the bracelet (that I usually love) is very thin and looks weird, but put on it a leather strap and it looks amazing. It’s like having a modern watch made as it should be.
The Hudson Bay company sells some presages sometimes at 25% off. I got a sprb43 for 371 cad after tax FYI
The smaller one would be nice if a tad bigger for like, 36 to 39cm? With my 16cm circumference wrist.
Thanks Kyle
Is the sapphire boxed crystal done with a gasket or UV adhesive?
UV
Does the bracelet on the small one come with half links??
No, it does not.
Love that Seiko came out with more dial colorways for the 33mm Presage Cocktail series. The red dial, although stunning, was too flashy for me personally, and the other dial colorways of the gold & silver combo weren’t my thing. I’ll be picking up the grey and ice blue dial versions in short order👍 Hope Seiko comes out with the green Mockingbird in 33mm next...
Hi Mark any idea when youll be getting more skx007 k versions?
so specs and designs are the same but just smaller size? wish they had 37-38mm
In the middle.
Thanks for sharing, they look great! the 34mm would be a risky operation, the wife would "borrow" if for sure!
LOL, true!
Only if I never see it again! Lol
What's the reference of the smaller ice blue one? I keep skipping back and forth but can't seem to find where he mentions 🤔
Marc, would you describe the dial as true black or is it charcoal/brownish.....?
I wonder how many folks would like to swap out the hands on the 34mm for the hands on the 41mm. The watches have the same movement, if they'll fit (the dial, case, crystal) it would cure a case of S.S.H.S. (Seiko Stubby Hand Syndrome :-). Also, it's good to see a date window at the perimeter of the dial. It's as if the movement were actually designed for the case size.
Would the length fit?
Why doesn't the date change immediately?
I mean it is around 400$!
Does it have a sapphire crystal?
Why did you not show the green one Marc?
The green one came out last year.
Long Island Watch i looked at seikos website and it shows a new model ref srpe15j1. A green dial with a bracelet. But maybe it is the exact same model but with a bracelet instead Of the strap. Thanks for the answer tho you are awesome!
What about the 2020 Presage dive-style watch I've been seeing pictures of? The 1964?
Not familiar.
@@islandwatch SARX069 is one of the models. There seem to be 3 different versions with a fourth limited edition releasing.
those bracelets look very comfy. do they have some decent weight/substance to them? I love the butterfly claps, too.
Seiko is making everyone, boys, girls, men, and women happy. There's also the 37mm Zen Garden with sapphire glass at $370.
Hey marc. I don't know if you read comments on older videos, but I have a question regarding the higher end seikos. A lot of the higher end ones that use the 4R35 movement have gold tone rotors. Is that rotor gold-plated or toned with other metals?
Soo is it srpb43 with bracelet?
yeah
What is the seriel number on the white 40mm? Cant find it on the site
SRPE19
Long Island Watch ok thank you!
Great watches, Marc. One thing that does differentiate the two, if it wasn’t mentioned, is the details in the minute track. The larger size has a very detailed minute track, compared to the smaller size. So yes, I think men’s and women’s is not inappropriate. But hey, it’s a watch. People can wear what they like!
I did miss that detail, thank you.
Does this comes in gold color ?
Not right now.
This Seiko Presage watch that I could see wearing but I would like to have a white face with gold markers in a two tone gold and stainless. These are about $500 US dollars give or take so I couldn't see why anyone would sell at a cheaper price unless it was a closeout.
Thanks for watching.
@@islandwatch no thank you for thanking me for watching
God I love your islander watches. Seeing your new releases are my most fav vids to watch. Soon I‘m gonna buy the Islander diver you are wearing in that vid
Thank you
It's be nice to see acrylic instead of Hardlex. I think all those classic watches uses acrylic.
I enjoyed this video immensely. The thing is that my collection has a number of small vintage Seiko’s. The question is, can a man with an 8” wrist get by with a 34 watch?
8 inch? no way. 7 inch max
I'd say it will look like a toy on your wrist!
Hey Marc; does it seem like Seiko has been releasing a lot more various watch models/variants lately (compared to e.g. their release cadence 2 yrs ago)? From looking at the forums, it kinda looks like Seiko has slapped on a turbocharger on their factories.. Or has it always been this rapid?
Actually, their cadence is down! They used to release a load of core every year. That has been toned down.
My father used for more than 5 decades the 28 x 28 mm Omega Deville that my mother gave to him on their first wedding anniversary, and now I used it.
Where is the problem in a man wearing a small watch?
big wrist > 8inch wrist
I have a number of 34mm watches - in fact I'm wearing one today... I'm glad you were ’reprimanded’ for your "his and hers" comments lol. I almost wrote a comment myself about alienating potential buyers so I'm happy to see this correction!
LOL, thank you!
I have a Certina certidate circa 1962 that is 34 mm. When I wear it, it looks as though it's part of my wrist. Unobtrusive, but still gets its share of attention from my friends who enjoy watches.
Understood!
Elegant and classy looking. Thanks for sharing them Marc! 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
Welcome!
In stead of "His and Her" watches, I would consider them as "Big and Little Brother" watches. 👍✌
OR sister!
Most would say unisex on the small one. I would say tiny.
I think a lot of guys get turned off by a watch that says its intended for women
Why not just “big” and “small” size? Calling them “big and little brother” would alienate female buyers in the same way that calling them “big and little sister” would probably alienate male buyers. Sizes don’t need to be gendered.
Totally, on a 6 2/8 inch wrist ... For sure.. My wrist is 7 1/8 so no chance to wear anything smaller than 40 mm
I'd say you could go down to 38 in a dress watch
About time. I'm tired of seeing wall clocks with straps trying to pass as wristwatches all the time.
On your Domasco Ocean you best get a cyclops!no Aribic #’s🤭how much$?
about $1000
I cannot wear 34mm (36mm already looks a small on me and 38-41 is my sweet spot) but I love that Seiko hasn't printed the fraction of a second markers which is the thing that I have always disliked on the Cocktail Time. Why do they still print it on the full size watch?
I never really noticed that.
I wear a 1991 Tag Heuer formula 1 chronograph as a daily wear watch and it fits perfect , the larger watches i have dont seem to fit me as well must be my small wrists i guess. It shouldnt matter about the size as long as you love the watch.
Keep up the great videos.
That's a very valid point. Wear what you like.
I have a 34mm Rolex Date from 1968 and it's the perfect watch size... I only wish I could wear it more often...
They should make the pink version in the Large Size.....they can just market it as another one of their unlimited "limited editions" I bet they would sell out just the same.
LOL
No sapphire crystal? Wtf
They are good looking watches, but they are definitely not worth $450 with a 4r35, mineral crystal, and hollow endlinks! $450 can buy you a much nicer Swiss watch with better specs.
For some strange reason I like the pink dial. I would probably go for that pink dial Presage if it were half the price.
What dress swiss wathes at the same price you suggest?
This battle always comes up; I understand. But now from a name like Seiko you won't get it.
Just bought the ice blue dial from you Marc. Super exited!
How’d you like it! Came in looking to buy the black dial one, then he casually slips in the ice blue dial. I wasn’t really looking to buy two watches today, but…
@@adrianp.8818 it’s great! Works well with a lot of my outfits as well
IMO Seiko is charging way too much for a watch that still has hollow end links on the bracelet.
I can't tell you how many Seiko watches I've mangled the hollow end links on. 😞
Understood.
agree
I truly think seiko killed the game with this releases. The 34 mm version is stunning.
BEAUTIFUL
my only gripe with presages is their enormous crown.
it's fine for a dress watch, you're not gonna be doing any work in them.
I think it's refined.
My 37mm seiko 5 is small enough for me.
Nice size.
I need a pink B-dial Flieger at 55mm. Because Freedom.
Only $400 for a plain stainless watch with a $35 NH35 in it, what a steal!
I sense sarcasm! Don't forget mineral crystal!
@@islandwatch Ha,Ha,Ha, for 400 bones I would give my money to someone's widow and grab a solid gold vintage Bulovia, Hamilton , Elgin or such , instead of sending my money off on a boat to Asia, but each to their own :) www.ebay.com/itm/LARGE-Mens-MINT-1952-Bulova-14K-SOLID-GOLD-Automatic-17j-Curl-Lug-Vintage-Watch-/223890914910?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=xoaQXx0YX75ZEJL1sQjGVq%252BJaHc%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc
The "his" version of this looks like a pie pan, like most all Presages. And in my opinion the "hers" version is better proportioned as far as the date window placement. But I'll tell ya what: Another reason why this works as a man's watch is that the lugs and bracelet are actually too wide to be considered a woman's dress watch.
Thanks for the insight.
i with these came with day and date .... that would be perfect for me.
Very classy!
Real men with larger wrists do look funny with such small watches, regardless how pretty they look. Cheers Achim, Singapore+
no asian kid , nothing is funny for larger wrist with small watches , only funny kids wear his daddy watches on a pencil wrist
I love smaller watches but I couldn't go smaller than 38.
I get it!
low-key the small size looks way better on his wrist in my opinion
If only sapphire
Smaller guy watches gotta make a comeback.
We're trying!
True love... For seiko
:)
When you have a wrist larger than 8.25," 40 mm is tiny.
Yeah, but that's a minority.
But we are out there. I had you send me a link for my stapcode. It was to small.
I am 450 pounds with large wrist. I need 45 mm watch. This are small
Yes, you do.
I would definitely wear the smaller size.
Awesome, glad to hear it.
Ngl, Id go with the smaller size. Terrible marketing job on their part calling it a ladies watch.
I bought my wife the ladies snowflake version from my son for mother's day, she keeps it in my watch box and everytime I see it I fall for it.
The mens larger version look fantastic but not sure I would wear it that often as it is quite dressy, I have decided to pay more for the white Alpinist which suits my needs better👌